1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Debt Tatie and he Armstrong and Eddy. 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: This is not just about books. This is about exposure 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: to people of different sexual orientations. And the objection, the 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: sincerely held objection that children shouldn't be exposed to this. 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 4: Again, our clients are not raising those and we know 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 4: that these kinds of objections aren't happening here. 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 5: The board is imposing indoctrination on children. 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 6: I thought Baxter did very well. I thought the Trump 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 6: administration Harris, the assistance Solicitor General, also did extraordinarily well. 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 6: And Baxter kept on shutting down the argument. You know, 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 6: Jackson said, do you you don't have any affidavits or declarations. 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: He said, yes, I do. 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 6: And when he said when they said, well, you just 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 6: don't want people to have access to this, and he 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 6: said that's not true. He said, we have no objection 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 6: to these books being available. This is very different from that. 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 6: And then just as so am I er try to 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 6: portray them as you just don't want people to see 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 6: the image of a of a same sex couple. There's 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 6: no real lesson here, and her own colleagues jumped in 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 6: and said, there is a lesson here. 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: There's a definite message being sent here. 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 7: Which is, don't pay attention to so of my rror, 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 7: don't even bother. She's she's talking abouttionate justice. 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 8: We're talking about the We're talking about the book Pride 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 8: Puppy and what you're going to hear more about in 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 8: a second, and other books like that that are in 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 8: school libraries. 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: But that well, sorry I got to jump in. 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 7: That's specifically what the lawyers were saying is not the case. 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 7: It's that this is being taught as a curriculum aggressively. 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 7: There's no you find the book on the shelf, check 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 7: it out because you're interested. It's being given affirmatively to 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 7: kids from ages three on and todd is part of 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 7: a whole curriculum. 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 8: Right, good point. I don't think they should even be 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 8: in the library. I'm sorry why I would agree? 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: Just why why is it there? 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 8: Oh look, here's a dude explaining why Pride Puppy is 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 8: a perfectly fine book and it's just hate. 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 5: This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stephenson and Julian maclachlin. 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 9: It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet. 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: Book see for Car or Old Chevrolet. 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 9: But this one about a dog that breaks loose from 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 9: its family while at a Pride parade. He is now 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 9: at the center of a censorship case going before the 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 9: US Supreme Court. 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 5: It was pitched as a parental rights religious freedom case, 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 5: when what I think it's doing is hiding hiding. It's 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: hate really disguised as parental rights. And what people are 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 5: taking offense at, I believe is the fact that Pride 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: isn't the title, and there are Pride flags in the book. 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 8: That absolutely not a censorship case. That is unlank and believable. 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 8: Play that again, just because that thing at the beginning, 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 8: I like. 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: Play that again. 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stevenson and Jolie McLachlin. 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 9: It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book. 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 10: Right. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 11: That. 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 8: I love that the news lady coming in. It doesn't 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 8: get more innocent than a children's alphabet book. How in 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 8: the world do you present that story like that and 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 8: pretend you're a journalist. It's a censorship Supreme Court mascar 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 8: rating is a parent's right case, rights case, as we 68 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 8: tell three year olds about drag queens and and and 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 8: and they can be a little girl. And we've had 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 8: into every lesson in school. Yeah, yeah, censorship. Here's a 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 8: little bit of a response video to that. And then 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 8: I'll fill in some gaps. 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 10: Today we're going to have a reading of Pride Puppy 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 10: for all the beautiful queerdos and the late mister pants 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 10: dancing over the rainbow bridge. 76 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. I don't know what querdos are. 77 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 8: I assume that's another one of her books, because she's 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 8: some sort of a very popular author of this sort 79 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 8: of thing. Quirdo's like, they call us weird because we like, 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 8: you know, blah blah blah. 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: So where's weird? Yes? 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 8: And then uh, and then he goes through the Pride 83 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 8: Puppy book and the the the basic story of the 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 8: book is it's a a puppy that gets loose from 85 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 8: its owners and runs through a pride parade. 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: And then you see all these and I don't know. 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 8: Why, the barking there is the Pride puppy there, and 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 8: then they're trying to catch the dog, and then you 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 8: see all these different colorful characters in the parade and 90 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 8: all the rainbow flags and the drag queens are trying 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 8: to chase the dog. And it's just an innocent book 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 8: about teaching, you know, phonics to kids. And then in 93 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 8: the back of the book they have they go letter 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 8: by letter like you do in a lot of these 95 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 8: sorts of books trying to teach reading through the alphabet, 96 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 8: for instance, like I as in infant insulin, inflatable tube, 97 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 8: sex flag, and insect. 98 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: What of all the eye. 99 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 8: Words that like you come in contact normally in your life, 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 8: that you could. 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 7: Say blue or ice cream inter sex flag. 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 8: Instead of igloo or ice cream, you go with intersex flag. 103 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 8: I mean, it's transparently hilarious what you're doing to get 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 8: us through. It's this is for as young as three 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 8: year old, is Justice Gorsuch kept pointing out, it's just to. 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: Get your five year older or even your fifteen year. 107 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 8: Old to say what's an intersex flag and get into 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 8: the whole conversation. 109 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: There's other examples under K. 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 8: Kites, kiss drag king, knapsack keys, not king drag king. 111 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: Under k Well, that way they got to put it 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: under d NK. 113 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 7: Boy the old we put in porn or how to 114 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 7: have gay sex manuals in school. Then if you say, whoa, whoa, whoa, 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 7: this this change you've brought, I don't like it, You're 116 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 7: a censor. You're you're this is a censorship banned books. 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 8: It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book. 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 8: You're the person asking for change. Wait a minute, No, 119 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 8: I'm not under l love Lion leopard print leggings, lippering 120 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 8: and Ladybug leopard print leggings and lippering for your just random, 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 8: easy to understand l words, not ladder. Why why are 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 8: you doing this? There's a reason you're doing this. 123 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, to indoctrinate the kids into radical gender theory in 124 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 7: queer theory. 125 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: Yeah under Obviously. 126 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 8: Under Q they had two words quilt and drag queen, 127 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 8: not queen drag queen. 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: What the hell? 129 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 8: And again the dedication in the Beginnings for all the 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 8: beautiful quirdos and the late mister pants dancing over the 131 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 8: rainbow bridge. Shut down all government schools right now. That's 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 8: the only answer. We'll have church schools, charitable schools, whatever, 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 8: add hoc schools put together by groups of parents. They 134 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 8: won't be perfect, but they'd be better than being indoctrinated into, 135 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 8: you know, the hatred of your country and Western civilization, 136 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 8: which the education system of this country is so infected. 137 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 8: Good Lord, that book doesn't need to be in the 138 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 8: freaking school at all. But as Joe pointed out, the 139 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 8: problem is, this is like part of the curriculum they're 140 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 8: saying you can't even opt out of for your three 141 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 8: year old. I mean, they're making it that important. There's 142 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 8: just no excuse for it being in the schools period, 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 8: any of these conversations. Leave that to the parents. This 144 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 8: is not the point of public school. Just reading, writing, math, science, 145 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 8: all right, and then shut up about everything else. Let 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 8: you know, deal with that in your own home and 147 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 8: however you going, you alread, You read that book to 148 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 8: your kid, fine, but the idea that that's mandatory for 149 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 8: all kids is insane. Oh and the guy who did 150 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 8: that clapback video, he pointed out that, so there are 151 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 8: these various groups that give out awards to these books, 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 8: and they're all each other giving awards to each other, 153 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 8: so that you have an award winning children's book that. 154 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: You put in your library and then you can make that. 155 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 8: Lord, they're wanting to censor this award winning children's book 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 8: on reading. Yeah, the awards from the Indoctrinating your Kids 157 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 8: into Queer Theory Council. 158 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 159 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very clever, like we talked about earlier. I mean, 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 8: you gotta tip your cat to the to the cleverness 161 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 8: of you know, all the little tentacles that are into 162 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 8: this whole thing, but the idea that I mean, some 163 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 8: of these words are just hilarious. 164 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I intersex flag. 165 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 8: What what if I was gonna list a thousand. 166 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: Eyewords, it wouldn't have popped it into my head? 167 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:17,479 Speaker 8: B is for bear and barn and bisexual, right, yeah, 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 8: that is something. It looks like the Supreme Court agrees. 169 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: With most of us on this. Uh. Yes, yeah. 170 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 7: It was a absolute blood bath oral arguments wise, I 171 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 7: was really enjoying argent listening to it. 172 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: I'll listen to the rest of it today. But the 173 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: only place where it got a. 174 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 7: Little sketchy was, interestingly enough, Katanji Brown Jackson, who was 175 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 7: pointing out that we have opt outs for this and 176 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 7: opt outs for that. 177 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 8: Surely government does how have the power to teach certain 178 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 8: moral or cultural things are good in schools. 179 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: That's part of the reason they exist. 180 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 7: How you quoting a friend, how do you draw the 181 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 7: line between saying parents can copt out, can opt out 182 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 7: of the trans's fine stuff, but not out of MLK 183 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 7: was a good guy stuff. And I'm not saying that 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 7: line can't be drawn. But the answer really is, there 185 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 7: is no answer other than I know it when I 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 7: see it, or we need to establish certain fundamental values 187 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 7: that are taught in schools and. 188 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: Not let the other stuff in. Because it's one of 189 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 2: the problems with having. 190 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 8: Lawyers run the world, is this sort of thing. Yeah, 191 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 8: I'm perfectly fine with the public for your local school. 192 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 8: I know it when I see it. We'll pick We'll 193 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 8: do it on an individual basis. I'm not writing a 194 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 8: law that delineates it because I'd be impossible. And saying 195 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 8: the Civil rights movement was a cause for good perfectly fine. 196 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: All this crap in this. 197 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 7: Book no, well, right, and that is why school boards 198 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 7: or should exist. 199 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: Now. Are there woke lunatics on school boards. 200 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 7: Yes, but we on the same side of America are 201 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 7: becoming more and more aware of how important it is 202 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 7: to be represented there. So yeah, school boards can decide 203 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 7: this stuff. The problem is in Montgomery County, Maryland, which 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 7: is the case that we're talking about. The school board 205 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 7: is just it is such a affluent, deep blue limousine 206 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 7: liberal Look how enlightened I am. 207 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: Nightmare. 208 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 7: And so you've got parents of various religious stripes saying, Hey, 209 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 7: our kids are being indoctrinated every single day from the 210 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 7: age of three on into a philosophy and sexual stuff 211 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 7: that I find repugnant and only rich. 212 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: People can escape it. 213 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 11: Yeah. 214 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 8: Somebody, I don't forget who came up with the costs 215 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 8: five figures to send your kid to private school? Somebody texted, 216 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 8: it's six figures. What are you going to send your 217 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 8: kid to a couple of years. 218 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: Of private school? 219 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 8: If you're going to send up a private schoo the 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 8: whole their whole lives, it's easily six figures. 221 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah, that was an annual figure they're talking about. 222 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: But but you know, you're either into it or you're not. Yeah. 223 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 8: Uh. The the advantage they have on that other side 224 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 8: is a well, what do you got it? What's wrong 225 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 8: with a puppy running through a pride parade. 226 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: And depicting that you just hate gays? 227 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 8: No, but why do we have to Well, you'd what 228 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 8: would be wrong with a puppy running through a Fourth 229 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 8: of July parade. 230 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: What's the difference? Eh No, I just don't want to. 231 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 7: It's a celebration of our national identity and birth is 232 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 7: a country that's normal. What you're describing is is obvious 233 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 7: indoctrination of something that there's no need to have it 234 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 7: in schools. Why don't you have a puppy run through 235 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 7: a condom factory? 236 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 11: Huh? 237 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: Why didn't you have the puppy run through a swinger's party. 238 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: Look at all the loud. Don't knock over the lube 239 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: party or puppy. It's a freak off. 240 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 8: Look there's ditty puppy because that would be perverse. The 241 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 8: hell shut it all down. Yes, I'll write a book. 242 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 8: Didty puppy and he runs through a freak off? Right, 243 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 8: there's the woman who's being compelled to have sex against 244 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 8: her will. Careful, puppy, did he might shoot you too, allegedly? 245 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh please? You people are sick. 246 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 8: I got nothing against people and their choices in life, 247 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 8: but stop grooming the children. Why and especially, as we 248 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 8: say every single time, and I'll end with this, it'd 249 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 8: be bad if they were doing well. 250 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: At math and reading. 251 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 8: But they're not oh my god, Okay, more on the way. 252 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 12: From TSA officers now handing out reminder flyers starting May seventh, 253 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 12: you'll need a real ID if you're planning to fly 254 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 12: at DMB Officers nationwide long lines and long waits for 255 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 12: appointments to get a real ID, but nearly twenty percent 256 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 12: of current airline passengers don't have a real ID, four 257 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 12: hundred thousand passengers a day. TSA is hoping not to 258 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 12: turn passengers away if you don't have a real ID 259 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 12: and you don't have a passport. That TSA says, plan 260 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 12: on an extra thirty minutes for extra. 261 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 7: Screening, okay, Or just say I am an illegal alien 262 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 7: and they'll say, okay, get in that line over there, 263 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 7: you don't need an ID. 264 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: That made me feel bad about myself. 265 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 8: Only twenty percent of current flyers don't have the real ID. 266 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 8: I assumed it was the vast majority of us, but no, 267 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 8: it's a small minority. 268 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: Okay. I was at the airport the other day. 269 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 8: They were handing out that piece of paper to all 270 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 8: of us, uh, saying, don't forget your real ID. I 271 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 8: started the process yesterday and on the website, and we'll 272 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 8: see how this turns. 273 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Out. 274 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 8: I look forward to paying the stupid tax of waiting 275 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 8: in line for something that I knew was coming for 276 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 8: years and again, as you keep pointing out, Joe, yes, 277 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 8: this is to deal with the terrorists on nine to eleven, 278 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 8: two thousand and one exactly. 279 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 7: So you're gonna be pulled out a line. No real 280 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 7: id on this one, Jim, Oh my goodness, come over here. 281 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 7: You do you know, oh, Sama bin Laden, are you 282 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 7: part of al Qaeda? You know you're gonna be asking 283 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 7: people and they're going to say, what's al Qaida? You know, 284 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 7: you're some nineteen year old that happened before I was born. 285 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: Why do I hate? Yeah? I know, I know. Yeah. 286 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 7: So A couple of food related stories worth passing along 287 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 7: mentioned this briefly earlier, but it's interesting. In recent years, 288 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 7: scientists have found that some additives like emulsifiers, dies, artificial sweeteners, 289 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 7: and there are a dozen other things, are linked to 290 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 7: health problems, but the studies have generally focused on the 291 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 7: impact of one substance at a time or a type 292 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 7: of additive, which makes sense if you understand the scientific method, 293 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 7: but that's not the way people consume them, of course, 294 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 7: and ultra processed foods often contain a cocktail of additives, 295 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 7: and I do enjoy a cocktail. 296 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 8: Now again, if I eat a bunch of skittles, I'm 297 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 8: gonna get red dye number ten and yellow dye number 298 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 8: fifteen and blue dye number one. 299 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 7: On a mulsifier and a preservative. And many people eat 300 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 7: more than one ultra processed product in a day, so 301 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 7: they're getting multiple cocktails. So a new study conducted by 302 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: researchers from several French universities and research institutions found that 303 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 7: some common combinations of multifiers, colors, and sweeteners was associated 304 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 7: with high risk of type two diabetes beyond what could 305 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 7: be explained by the individual substances alone. This suggests that 306 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 7: when some of these substances are eaten together, the negative 307 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 7: health impacts may be compounded. So they're looking at it 308 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 7: in a more real lifey way. 309 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, this seems fairly obvious. Surprise, we're just getting to 310 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 8: it now, but yeah, there you go. 311 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 7: I get the scientific problem with having multiple variables in 312 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 7: one experiment, but I mean that's the way it's taken in. 313 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 7: So another quick food related story, farm robots or farmbots, 314 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 7: if you ever, are getting much closer to reality the 315 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 7: way they navigate between rosa crops, for instance, is changing 316 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 7: in a way that relies less on GPS and more 317 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 7: on just they're looking at the strawberries and they can 318 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 7: see they're two inches from the strawberry. They're supposed to 319 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 7: be two inches from the strawberries, and so they can 320 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 7: do all the stuff, which reminds me of early on 321 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 7: in the illegal immigration discussion. People will say who's going 322 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 7: to pick the lettuce, and we would always say somebody 323 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 7: or nobody or a machine. Well, the machine is gaining 324 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 7: on the outside and coming on. 325 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: Fast, Armstrong and getty. 326 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: President Trump lashing out at Ukraine's president vladimir's Lensky on 327 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: social media, writing he can have peace, or he can 328 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: fight for another three years before losing the whole country. 329 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: The man with no cards to play should now finally 330 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: get it done. 331 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: Trump angered by. 332 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Zelinsky's refusal to accept a US proposed peace deal that 333 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: would prohibit NATO membership for Ukraine and would include Ukraine 334 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: giving up land that Russia has seized since its invasion, 335 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: in addition to giving up CRIMEA. 336 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 8: Is it fair to say we're at an inflection point 337 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 8: on this whole thing? 338 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: This is just not a another little blip in this story. 339 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 8: This seems like this could really be a big deal, 340 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 8: which is probably why the Wall Street Journal editorial board, 341 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 8: New York Post editorial board both out with pieces today, 342 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 8: both you know, Republican leading publications really pretty horrified at 343 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 8: Trump continuing to bad mouth and pressure Zelensky while giving 344 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 8: putin a complete pass. We'll hear more from jd Vance 345 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 8: in a second on that. Well, let's hear a little 346 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 8: more from Trump as he explains himself. 347 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 11: I will say that I think Russia is ready. And 348 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 11: a lot of people said Russia wanted to go for 349 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 11: the whole thing, and they've I think we have a 350 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 11: deal with Russia. We have to get a deal with Zelensky, 351 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 11: and I hope that Selensky. I thought it might be 352 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 11: easier to deal with Selensky. So far it's been harder. 353 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 11: But that's okay, It's all right. But I think we 354 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 11: have a deal with both. 355 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 8: One more and then we'll discuss if I may this 356 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 8: deal that you have with Russia, does it include recognizing 357 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 8: Russia's sovereignty over PREMEA. 358 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 11: Well, everything is good. Look, I just want to see 359 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 11: the war end. I don't care if they're both happy. 360 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 11: They both signed an agreement. I have no favorites. I 361 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 11: don't want to have any favorites. I want to have 362 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 11: a deal done now. 363 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 8: I don't think Trump is like a puppet of Putin. 364 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 8: I don't think Putin has something on him, you know, 365 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 8: on that stuff. 366 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: But I don't get it. 367 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 8: I don't get the lack of willingness to call Putin 368 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 8: a really bad guy, the aggressor, a war criminal. Why 369 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 8: why does he not want to say Why does he 370 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 8: need to say bad things about Zelensky and refuses to 371 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 8: say bad things. 372 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: About But what's the point. I think it's just a 373 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: question of leverage. 374 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 7: He can say anything he wants to Zelensky and Zelynsk, 375 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 7: he still needs the US's help. He feels like he 376 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 7: cannot alienate Putin or else his scheme of and I 377 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 7: don't mean scheme in a negative way, his hope of 378 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 7: ending the war will be for naught. So he's got 379 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 7: to lure him into the bargaining. 380 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 8: So we have an update on the story just since 381 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 8: this morning, because overnight Russia launched the deadliest attack on 382 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 8: Kiev since the war began. So how does Trump not 383 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 8: take that personally? So you're in the midst yesterday of 384 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 8: doing all the things I just mentioned, saying, you know, 385 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 8: friendliest things about Putin, bad mouth and Zelenski, and. 386 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: How does Putin reward him? 387 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 8: And Trump saying you get to keep Crimea, you get 388 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 8: to create, keep all the land. 389 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying Ukraine can't be part of NATO. I mean, 390 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm handing you all this stuff. And how does. 391 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 8: Putin reward him With the biggest attack on the capital 392 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 8: of Ukraine since the war started, and now it is 393 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 8: twelve and one hundreds dead? Are twelve dead, hundreds injured, 394 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 8: and they might find more dead people. So Trump wasn't 395 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 8: happy about that, and he did respond. 396 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: I've got it right in front of me. 397 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 8: I'm not happy with the Russian strikes on Kiev. Not 398 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 8: necessary and very bad timing. Five thousand soldiers a week 399 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 8: are dying. Let's get the peace deal done. But even that, 400 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not happy with this bad timing and 401 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 8: not necessary is pretty tapid. Yes, yeah, And Putin's thinking, well, okay, 402 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 8: as tapid as that is, I can continue this on 403 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 8: for weeks or months, grab more land, kill more soldiers, 404 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 8: weaken the Western leaning regime of Ukraine even more. 405 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 7: Thereby cementing my control over it, and then in six 406 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 7: weeks time or six months or whatever, I say to Trump, Yeah, yeah, 407 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 7: you're right, we really need to come to a deal, 408 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 7: and I will will be welcomed at the bargaining table. 409 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: So why would I stop? 410 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 8: Like Trump and his post yesterday said, if Zelenski wants 411 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 8: CRIMEO so bad, why didn't they fight for it eleven 412 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 8: years ago when it was handed over to Russia without 413 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 8: a shot being fired? When Russia overwhelming went in with 414 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 8: overwhelming force, got no support from Ukraine, had almost no 415 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 8: support from anybody at the time. They just militarily talk 416 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 8: about not having the cards. They just couldn't stop the 417 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 8: bigger aggressor and their powerful army at the time. So 418 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 8: Trump said, if you want CRIMEA so bad, why didn't 419 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 8: you fight harder for it? 420 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: What? 421 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, crime is complicated just for cultural reasons and 422 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 7: the history of it and the rest of it. 423 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's ugly. I just I. 424 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 8: What's your theory on this? What is your theory on this? 425 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 8: I'm completely just doing let's hear from JD. Vans and 426 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 8: then maybe we can have that conversation. 427 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to echo something Secretary Rubio said, which 428 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: is luck. We've issued a very explicit proposal to both 429 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 4: the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them 430 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: to either say yes or for the United States to 431 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: walk away from this process. We've engaged in an extraordinary 432 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: amount of diplomacy of on the ground work. We've really 433 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: tried to understand things from the perspective of both the 434 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: Ukrainians and the Russians. What do Ukrainians care the most about? 435 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: What do the Russians care the most about? And I 436 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: think that we've put together a very fair proposal. 437 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see what. I don't 438 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: see what has no interest in it. 439 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 8: I don't see what Putin has had to give or 440 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 8: what Ukraine gets. 441 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: Out of this. 442 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 8: We've looked at both sides and their needs and a 443 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 8: fair proposal. Yeah, Russia gets everything they want and Ukraine 444 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 8: gets nothing that they want. 445 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: Is your proposal? Yeah, I don't know it. 446 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 7: Hell you this, I don't I don't see a deal 447 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 7: taking shape. Honestly. Well, let's unless Trump were to exhort 448 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 7: enormous pressure, including military pressure, on Russia, which I just 449 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 7: don't see in the cards. 450 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 8: Well, I know some of you are pretty hardcore. We 451 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 8: shouldn't be involved in this, and you agree with jd Vance. Obviously, 452 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 8: the Wall Street Journal does not agree with that standpoint. 453 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 8: Neither does the New York Post, and neither does Brit Hume, 454 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 8: the senior political an analyzer on Fox. Here he is yesterday. 455 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 13: He keeps pounding Zielenski and saying it's harder to deal 456 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 13: with him than it is with Putin. Putin, so far 457 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 13: as I can tell, hasn't agreed to much of anything 458 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 13: except yes, he'd love to ann action CRIMEA, which was 459 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 13: part of the proposal that's before him. Now, that's no concession, 460 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 13: that's just that's just that, all that is is taking 461 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 13: a gain. Zielenski resists that because crime up until the 462 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 13: Russian invaded it ten years or so ago, was part 463 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 13: of Ukraine. So I'm not exactly sure what the President 464 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 13: is talking about when he says that Zelensky has been 465 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 13: more difficult to deal with than Putin. You know, they 466 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 13: have been a series of ceased fire proposals. Putin either 467 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 13: hasn't agreed to them or has immediately broken them. I'm 468 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 13: not sure you know what concessions Putin will ever be 469 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 13: willing to make. But he's surely hadn't many made very 470 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 13: many so far. 471 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I just I don't know how deep 472 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 7: we want to get into this. From Putin's perspective, Crimea 473 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 7: is like what would be a good analogy there really 474 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 7: isn't a good one for the United States. 475 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: But it's like. 476 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 7: The discussion about Greenland, except much much closer and much 477 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 7: much more important. It's his only access to open water 478 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 7: to the south there. And when it was part of 479 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 7: the Soviet Union, which was the Russian Empire. And interestingly enough, 480 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 7: Tom Cotton is starting to refer to the Soviet Union 481 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 7: as Communist Russia, which I think is smart because he's 482 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 7: bringing younger voters along they understand, you know, I think 483 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 7: it's clever anyway. But when it was Communist Russia, they 484 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 7: had twenty four to seven access to their ports through Crimea, 485 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 7: obviously because it was part of the Soviet Union. And 486 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 7: then post Soviet Union, the Ukraine and its government was 487 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 7: still pretty closely tired tied to the former Communists and 488 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 7: the oligarchs that took power in the rest of it, 489 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 7: and so Russia had twenty four to seven access to Crimea. 490 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 7: And then when the Ukrainian government started leaning strongly to 491 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 7: the West, they started to lose access to this critical 492 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 7: military asset, and that's why they invaded. So and I 493 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 7: say that not to argue therefore Putin's a good guy 494 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 7: and in the right. No, just explained to me the 495 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 7: bargain that struck on Crimea that doesn't include something close 496 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 7: to total Russian control that Putin would agree to. 497 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't see it. Well, that's my opinion. 498 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 8: That's why we and NATO needed to arm Ukraine to 499 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 8: the point that they militarily defeat Russia and drive them 500 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 8: out of there, starting three years ago, actually starting ten 501 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: years ago. 502 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: But obviously that did not happen. 503 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal, Mister Trump's current offer looks more like 504 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 8: an ultimatum than grounds for a durable piece. Mister Trump 505 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 8: is angry that Ukraine won't accept the deal that legitimizes 506 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 8: Russia's occupation of Crimea, as if this is a minor 507 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 8: map revision. Mister Trump likes to say that Ukraine doesn't 508 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 8: have the cards, but it does have one. The President 509 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 8: won't be able to abandon Ukraine without paying a heavy 510 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 8: political price. 511 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with that. 512 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 8: The Wall Street Journal editorial board I think Trump will 513 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 8: pay a political price for letting Russia get its way here. 514 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 7: I'm not sure. No, I don't think it'll be heavy. 515 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 7: I'd be curious. I haven't seen polling on this recently. 516 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 8: Well, the polling shows, and I saw it yesterday. The 517 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 8: polling is Americans are still overwhelmingly like two to one 518 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 8: in favor of Ukraine either winning or US supporting them 519 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 8: or however ask the question, but I just I don't 520 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 8: think it ranks as very high as an issue. Is 521 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 8: my thing, yes, even if it goes against the majority, 522 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 8: I just don't think most people care enough. 523 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 7: Sure, every question like that is two tiered what would 524 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 7: you like to happen? Then the follow up question is 525 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 7: at what cost? How much would you be willing to 526 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 7: pay for it? And I think the answer is not 527 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 7: enough to get it done. 528 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 8: The final word from the Wall Street Journal editorial board, 529 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 8: mister Trump can still salvage a deal in Ukraine, but 530 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 8: the current final settlement offer looks like it would set 531 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 8: up mister Putin to win the war. An hour or later, 532 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 8: the world's rogues will notice and mister Trump's had a 533 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 8: will have only begun, which is my belief. I mean, 534 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 8: if that isn't beyond a signal. It's like stating the president, 535 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 8: she you can take Taiwan and we ain't gonna do 536 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 8: nothing about it. 537 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Good luck U. 538 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 8: Yes, correct, which again Trump and jad Vance might say 539 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 8: that was true before. 540 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: Russia invaded Ukraine, and it's true now. 541 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 8: If China wants to take Taiwan, they're going to and 542 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 8: we ain't gonna stop them. 543 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: The world ain't gonna be able to stop them. Yeah. 544 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 7: And I don't mean to come off as cynical or 545 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 7: having given up, although I have to some extent on 546 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 7: certainly Crimea. You can't always go in reverse in life. 547 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 7: Anybody with a little life experience can tell you that 548 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 7: when you've concluded your stupid affair, for instance, with some 549 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 7: waitress and realize you adore your wife and it's the 550 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 7: single most moronic thing you will ever do in you life, 551 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 7: well that's fine, but you're already there. 552 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: You've already done it. 553 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 7: And I think, to a large extent, the hesitation, the 554 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 7: effeckless response to the Biden administration Russia's extremely strong interest 555 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 7: in Crimea. At this point, there's no hit and rewind, 556 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 7: there's no getting CRIMEA back. Russia owns it and will 557 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 7: until the day I die. How about a bigger picture? 558 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: The world order? Is that just over? Is that cake baked? 559 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 8: Is it just the US led world order is over 560 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 8: and it's coming apart? 561 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: And that's just a fact? 562 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 7: Yes, some ten percent or seventy percent, I don't know. 563 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 7: I think it's more like probably twenty five percent. 564 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 5: Man. 565 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 8: I think once it starts, I think it goes from 566 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 8: ten to seventy in a couple of years. 567 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 568 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 7: I think because we're still the strongest military on earth, 569 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 7: although how strong like in the navy naval realm remains 570 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 7: to be seen with China's incredible build up. I think remember, 571 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 7: people react and countries react to that twenty percent going away. 572 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 7: We don't just continue doing the same things. I think 573 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 7: we rise up and say h oh as a nation. 574 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: Call it the uh oh doctrine? Right? 575 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 8: Any thoughts on that text line four one five two kftc. 576 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: Arstaetti. 577 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 14: We're in a waimo. It was going the wrong way. 578 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 14: We called customer support. It stopped us right here and 579 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 14: wouldn't let us out of the car, and we kept saying, hey, run, 580 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 14: we're on a highway please. Cars kept honking at us 581 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 14: and it would not move, it would not let us out, 582 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 14: no one from customer support, but actually move the Waymo. 583 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 14: So now we're walking on Mopack and our Waimo is 584 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 14: still there. This is insane waybo. 585 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 8: Ha ha ha. 586 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: So that's a good story right there. 587 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 8: So Waimo is the driverless taxis, which I know a 588 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 8: number of people that have ridden in. 589 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: I can't believe. I haven't tried yet. They have. 590 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 8: They make them in Phoenix, and so Phoenix is covered 591 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 8: in Waymo's and San Francisco I think is the only 592 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 8: other city in America. I think it's just Phoenix in 593 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 8: San Francisco right now that has Waymo's driving around. And 594 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 8: I've seen them took place in Austin. Oh Okay, But 595 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 8: I haven't ridden in one yet, and I've got to. 596 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 8: But a buddy. 597 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: He's not a buddy of mine. He's my insurance agent. 598 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: He's a nice guy. I wish we were friends, but 599 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he likes me anyway. 600 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 8: He was sitting in my cyberbeast the other day because 601 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 8: I got rear ended, So you got to see your 602 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 8: insurance agent anyway, and we were talking about automated driving 603 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 8: and all that sort of stuff. And I was asking him, 604 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 8: you know, what are the insurance companies gonna do, because 605 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 8: the claim is from Tesla that in twenty six they're 606 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 8: going full Waimo. They're gonna go full automated driving where 607 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 8: you don't have to pay attention autonomous driving like Waimo is, 608 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 8: so you know, you can read or sleep or do 609 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 8: whatever you want. And I said, are the insurance company 610 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 8: is going to allow that? And he said, well, first 611 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 8: it'll be the state allowing it legally. And remember Weimo 612 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 8: came into like San Francisco. Originally they had the rights 613 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 8: to drive them around. Then the city shut them down 614 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 8: for a while where a couple of wrecks that I 615 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 8: don't know how they earned their way back, but they 616 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 8: drive all over the place and the city allowed it. 617 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 8: So it's possible the state of California allows. Of course, 618 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 8: wouldn't that be something if they don't allow Tesla autonomous 619 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 8: vehicles because they hate elon right a political thing. So 620 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 8: here's what happened to these people. 621 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 7: They came to a merge where two lanes became one 622 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 7: and the car just stopped. This is on a major 623 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 7: highway and as the lady described, the cars were honking 624 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 7: and they were stuck for over five minutes, and they 625 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 7: just requested to be let out of the car to 626 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 7: walk the rest of the way. They were on the 627 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 7: phone with a Waymo person, and the representative kept insisting 628 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 7: I need a specific address before unlocking the vehicle, and 629 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 7: the group told them over and over again. 630 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 8: We're at the merge lane. There's nothing an address for 631 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 8: a merged lane. How do you write a letter to 632 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 8: a mergelne one two three where two lanes meets boulevard anyway, So. 633 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: The car suddenly unlocked. 634 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 7: As they walked away, the car remained in the same 635 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 7: spot at a further distance. 636 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 8: The car suddenly roared back to life and drove past them. 637 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 8: Now it wants to go, she said on her video. 638 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 8: The uh go in the wrong directions one thing, you know, 639 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 8: you don't want to be late to where over your 640 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 8: head or something. But the on a freeway stopped and 641 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 8: I can't get out, I would be seriously one worried 642 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 8: and two angry with the product. I'm on a freeway 643 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 8: where I could get hit and I can't get out 644 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 8: of this damn thing. 645 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: That's nuts. 646 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, way Moss spokesman said passengers can always pause the 647 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 7: ride and exit the vehicle by pulling the handle. 648 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: Twice during the ride. 649 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 8: The passengers in the video pressed the pullover button in 650 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 8: the vehicle pulled to the side of a thirty mile 651 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 8: per hour road with a sidewalk so quick, bitch, could. 652 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: Be operator error, That's not impossible. Yeah, I suppose. I 653 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: don't know. She sounds pretty sincere. 654 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 8: Do you think this, well, they already have them, you know, 655 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 8: way most Do you think this is gonna happen like 656 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 8: in a couple of years where there's gonna be lots 657 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 8: of cars driving around you can sleep in and drink 658 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 8: or whatever. 659 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 7: I don't know what the laws are going to be, 660 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 7: uh that, whether legally you can or just effectively you 661 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 7: can wink nod. 662 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Wow. We do another hour. 663 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 8: If you don't get it, get the podcast Armstrong and 664 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 8: Getty on demand. Otherwise I'm Strong and Getty.