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Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna go. I was just gonna think

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Speaker 2: Which unit? Which team do you have more trust for Daniel.

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Speaker 1: So I have Michigan winning this game by four, I

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Speaker 1: because they're the home team. Yeah, it is not based

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's played better competition thus far. I was a little

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Speaker 2: By Michigan in the second half in that Rutgers game.

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Speaker 2: it didn't happen. Maybe that says more about Rutgers than

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Speaker 1: You can at least lie to yourself. It is a lie.

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Speaker 1: They should just be able to score thirty against Rutgers. Now,

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Speaker 2: The final score in the Notre Dame Wisconsant game was

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Speaker 2: Chris Tyree ran the kick back and then there were

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Speaker 1: They had the special teams though, right, that's if you're

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Speaker 2: Okay, continue either way, Dan, Whatever the case, however, you

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Speaker 2: So this is the worst nightmare of my entire life.

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Speaker 1: I took Notre Dame at first glance, when I gathered

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Speaker 1: edge for Notre Dame. They're beat up at left tackle

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Speaker 1: right Notre Dame, yep, I think that they're beat up

434
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. So you have Jack Cone who's beat up.

435
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: I think Drew Pine is the number two this week.

436
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: And then I saw Pete Sampson was like, well, you

437
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: better get used to the possibility of another regular season

438
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: undefeated Notre Dame really really with this line? Okay, Okay,

439
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: I think he threw a little bit of gas into

440
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: the karma fire. And so I'm going to say.

441
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: You're putting this all on Pete.

442
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: Yes, we love Pete Sampson. Well, I was just thinking.

443
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I like Notre Dame, but I have

444
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: to find reasons, okay. And it had difficulty that, like,

445
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 1: you can't run the ball with Kyen Williams and Chris Tyree.

446
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: You could lose in Pete's career with this, I know,

447
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I know, and I don't like Pete as a friend

448
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: of the pod. We do really like Pete, but you

449
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: can't run the ball with Chris Tyree and Kyen Williams

450
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: and like I go and look at Notre Dame highlights

451
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: and everyone was like Kyen Williams really good blocking, Like, oh,

452
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: this is not a good sign against a good defense.

453
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: That they're running back is like good blocker, it's coming

454
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: for your nuts, which was an actual thing I saw.

455
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Cincinnati here. I think they're going to

456
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: run successfully against Notre Dame. I think we'll have a

457
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: nice game for Jerome Ford. I think they're going to

458
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: harass Jack Cohen or whoever's in a quarterback coming off

459
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: of the edge. And I like Cincinnati, even though they

460
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: haven't been crazy impressive this year. I think it's an

461
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: LRO spot and I'm going to go with I guess

462
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle's knowledge of Marcus Freeman on some level, defensive

463
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: guy to defensive guy. I have Cincinnati winning this game

464
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: twenty one seventeen, interesting and covering. I get it, I

465
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: do get it, and going with the road favorite. Let

466
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: me take a knee here for a second and pay place.

467
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna do this, but all this talk about

468
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: Jack Cones got me a little worked up. I talk

469
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: about announcer tropes all the time. One of our favorite

470
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: things to do on this show. They're gonna talk a

471
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: lot about Cincinnati. The other thing that they're gonna do,

472
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: inevitably is they're gonna at some point force feed you

473
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Speaker 1: the idea that Jack Cone is playing.

474
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Speaker 2: Well, okay, right now, look, I I'll show my cards

475
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: here for a second. My highest level of football achievement

476
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: was being the starting quarterback for a co ed flag

477
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: football team that went to the semi finals of the

478
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: intramural League up at Penn State Warrior Warrior. And when

479
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: I played on the men's team, I was like a

480
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: halfway decent slot guy that was a Rondale or type.

481
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: All right, okay, that is my level of football acumen.

482
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: So please forgive my ignorance. Call me out if I

483
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: am wrong about this, Please per our very own Travis

484
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: May going out to soliverbal dot com read his sneaky

485
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: stats which he posts every Tuesday. Jack Cone's true yards

486
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: per play that includes past attempts and sacks and RUSSI

487
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: attempts it ranks outside the top eighty in the nation.

488
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: He's not been great, but nobody thinks he had. It's

489
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: not like you're proving somebody wrong. To the commentary man,

490
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: all about Jack Cone. Oh, Jack Cone. I listened to

491
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: you know, like six different guys talk him up.

492
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Speaker 1: You're talking about like play by play guys you're talking

493
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: about like Gus Johnson and like Mike Tarico.

494
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh, try to it, Ryan Harris on the on the radio,

495
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: like everyone. Sorry, Jack Cone is the undisputed starter of

496
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: this football team. Ty.

497
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: Their their job is to sell you on staying on

498
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Speaker 1: that channel.

499
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: I am not there. I'm saying I'm not buying it.

500
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: I understand there is there is some real post traumatic

501
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: book disorder going on right now. Jack Cone is different.

502
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: Jack Cone is throwing the ball down the field. He's

503
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: staying in the pocket. He is doing things that I

504
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: think are very refreshing. I'm okay with Jack Cone. I

505
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have a problem with Jack Cone. I'm getting

506
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: tired of being force fed this narrative though, that Jack

507
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: Cone is the only option for this team because he's

508
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: a veteran and he's got the experience and he's a

509
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: good leader and he's kind of like a quiet champion

510
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: for this team. I think we're at the point, given

511
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: where the offensive line is, that if you have a

512
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: guy who's not a statue back there, it might vot

513
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: a little bit better for the offense. And we might

514
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: find that out in this game. Now. I don't know

515
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: if Buckner's healthy. I don't know if Drew Pine is

516
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: going to get work. We'll find out in due time.

517
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: But I think that line we keep coming back to it.

518
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: You mentioned it, I've mentioned it the last couple of

519
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: weeks running here. When you go up against a good

520
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: team like Cincinnati, this is where it starts to show.

521
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: And if you've got a guy who can move around

522
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: back there, it just I think it makes the word

523
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 2: the difference. This is the biggest game potentially in the

524
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: history of the Cincinnati football program.

525
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they played Georgia in the Peach Bowl, right.

526
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this one counts for something. This one means something,

527
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: especially in an odd, chaotic year. I know we poo

528
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: pooed the idea of Cincinnati making the playoff like a

529
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: week ago after what we saw go down in Week three.

530
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: It's there, man, It's on the table, whether we want

531
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: to believe it or not. My only reference point for

532
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati so far this season is at Indiana game. And

533
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: sure they look pretty awful for most of the first half.

534
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: They got the targeting call, and then they turned it

535
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: on in the second half. They eventually ended up pulling away,

536
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: but it was not like that was a dominant effort

537
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: for you know, a good chunk of that game.

538
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Rest advantage to Cincinnati. Notre Dame's coming off of a

539
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: very physical Wisconsin matchup. Cincinnati had a bye week. Now,

540
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati hasn't played a top sixty team. It's Miami, Ohio,

541
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: Indiana and Murray State. But that is an element. That's

542
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: my favorite word of the year. That is something and

543
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: by the way, just underlying numbers more about I guess

544
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: it's Notre Dame as a whole, if you're going to

545
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: include Drew Pine at this moment, but just their passing game.

546
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's passing game this year ninety second success rate,

547
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: passing down success rate, so like second and long or

548
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: third and Long seventy first in the country. Third and

549
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: Long success rate ninety fourth, twenty one to the third.

550
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: But Jack coll he's good man he's good one out there.

551
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: Again, Let's do it.

552
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: There is no less successful team between the twenty one

553
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: and thirty of the of an opponent than Notre Dame

554
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: eleven yard line to the twenty yard line ninety fourth,

555
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: inside the ten success rate ninety eighth. It's good to

556
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: have a trusted handout there, though, right, very good at

557
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: the goal line though. So Yeah, Eventually the issues along

558
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: the line are going to come back to haunt Notre Dame,

559
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: and this might be the best chance the rest of

560
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: the way for that happening because Cincinnati is very solid.

561
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Flip side of things, des Ritter's very solid. He's not

562
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: the first round talent that some what have you believe,

563
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: but he's really good and he will give Notre Dame fits.

564
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: I went back and forth in this game a million times.

565
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: In the end, I think a little bit of my

566
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Notre Dame bias is going to show here. I can't

567
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: see giving Notre Dame points at home, Okay, And I

568
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: still think I still think there is room for an

569
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: X factor, whether that's Drew Pine or Tyler Buckner in

570
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: his hamstring, whoever it ends up being, that can be

571
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: an X factor in this game. If they choose to

572
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: use it if it's available to them. I got Notre

573
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: Dame here. I think this is a good game. I'm

574
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: gonna say thirty one to twenty seven.

575
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: My question to you is, is Notre Dame's defense and

576
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: excuse me, is Notre Dame their team as a whole

577
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: in the present tense? Are they presently good or are

578
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: you thinking? Well?

579
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: I could see them being good. The defense is getting better. Yeah, yeah,

580
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: it is getting better every week. And I think as

581
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: a whole, I think the defense is fine. I think

582
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: the defense is solid and it is getting better. The offense,

583
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: the line is a problem. The offense gave up six

584
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: sacks last week and couldn't run the ball. Remember, the

585
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: strength of this offense was supposed to be the ground game.

586
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: If that is not the case, we have to re

587
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: evaluate what we think of Notre Dame here. But thirty

588
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: one twenty seven, that's my pick. I'm going to go

589
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Irish at home to win this game out right. Should

590
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: be a fun game. Two thirty NBC. However you tune

591
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: into NBC.

592
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited for whoever. Notre Dame's next offensive coordinator is

593
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: to realize that with a bad offensive line, you gotta

594
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: get a killer screen game. RPOs. You gotta mask it.

595
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: You gotta make people forget.

596
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: You gotta move the pocket. You can't have a statue back.

597
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Everybody remembers Notre Dames offensive line.

598
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: The line will be better in like a year or two,

599
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: It really will. But this is yeah, this is kind

600
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: of a an oddball year for Notre Dame. Will on

601
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: the line and they're just right.

602
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: We gotta move. We got two good offenses. Let's get

603
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: let's go in the other do three.

604
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Thirty CBS All Miss on the road at Bama. Bama

605
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: is a fourteen and a half point home favorite. Fun

606
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: as hell. A year ago sixty three forty eight in

607
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: favor of Alabama, that game was close to fourteen hundred

608
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: total yards. This year, As you said before, we've got

609
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: both of the Heisman front runners right now, Matt Corral

610
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: a slight favorite over Bryce Young at time of recording.

611
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: That probably will change after we get done with Week five.

612
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: This one opened at seventeen and a half in favor

613
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: of Bama. It has come down. Eighty percent of the

614
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: money has come in on Ole Miss so far. Notable

615
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: here is that the point spread, though it's remained around

616
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half. The over under has climbed. A

617
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: lot of folks hammering the over under. I think it's

618
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: all the way up to about seventy nine and a

619
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: half right now, hammering the over you're saying hammering the over.

620
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Vegas is thinking shootout, and you know my belief system.

621
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: My belief system is if I'm getting more than a

622
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: touchdown and a shootout, I'm taking the points. So just

623
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: as a default position, I'm on Old Miss, I'm on

624
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: the points. I also kind of feel like this is

625
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: a bit of a rivalry to pseudo rivalry now that

626
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: we've got Lane Kiffin coaching ole Miss. I admire Lane

627
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: Kiffin's philosophy, Dan, I really do. I think they know

628
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: exactly what they are. They're very self aware. They're gonna

629
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: try to outscore you. Yeah, defense is very much okay,

630
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: just okay, do we even know? Do we even know?

631
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: They're very average at best?

632
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: It's Louisville, it's Tulane and who else did all Miss

633
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: play like they We don't actually know what Ole Miss

634
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: is or isn't at this point, and Austin p there's

635
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: your third team coming off of a buy.

636
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: Now, I think they just want to get a couple stops.

637
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: They're not looking to suffocate you. Whatever they get is gravy.

638
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna try to outscore you. And so I think

639
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: as I try to evaluate this game, I'm looking at

640
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: stopping big plays. Whoever stops the most big plays, whoever

641
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: gets the most big plays, let's say, is the one

642
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: that's gonna win this game. And right now, these teams

643
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: are about even in that department. So this game is

644
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: gonna be fun again. There's gonna be a lot of points.

645
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: I think this is the game of the week. I

646
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: am tempted to go old miss out right, Dan, I'm

647
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: very tempted to go oll miss out Wait wait, wait.

648
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: You're tempted to go ol. What is the money line

649
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: in this game? What kind of action can you get

650
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: on that? Uh?

651
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: Probably like three to one.

652
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: I haven't seen, but okay, ole miss, I'm looking it

653
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: up right now. Explain yourself.

654
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: This game was very close last year, okay, And I

655
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: feel like Lane Kiffin learned a lot from that matchup.

656
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: He's got a better team this year. And even though

657
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: Alabama is still very good, they are a little bit

658
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: more vulnerable. Still not a bad team by any stretch.

659
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: There's not like a major chink in the armor. But

660
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: this is a matchup. I think with a really good

661
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: quarterback with a high powered offense, can ole Miss go

662
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: in there and outscore Alabama if anybody can.

663
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Thirty, by the way, came down to plus four hundred

664
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: and five hundred. That's depending on where you look, but

665
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: it's somewhere between four and five hundred plus money.

666
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to go ole Miss money line. I won't,

667
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: but I think this is a one score game one

668
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: way or the other. I think it's forty eight forty four.

669
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Bama outright, but I think ole Miss

670
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: easily covers fourteen and a half.

671
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: So ole Miss has been running it pretty well, and

672
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: that's largely Matt Corral Matt Corral early and I don't know,

673
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: depending on how you feel about Ontario Drummond, who's leading

674
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: ole Miss in yardage out wide as a as a

675
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: big number one option, I just don't think Ole Miss

676
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: is at the moment where they were at receiver and

677
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: tight end these past few years, you know, especially going

678
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: back to Evan Ingraman, guys like that that really got

679
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: under you know. The Alabama defense is craw I don't

680
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: hate your line of things in terms of value, but

681
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: this is still a fourteen to fifteen points spread.

682
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: Now.

683
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: I think the case for ole Miss keeping it significantly

684
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: closer than that is Alabama just isn't where they were

685
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: last year, which last year was a generational, if not

686
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: all time historically efficient scoring offense. Right, So, you have

687
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: a first year starter who's much younger and has had

688
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: nearly the time in the system that Mac Jones had.

689
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: You have good receivers like Jamison Williams, really really good.

690
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: You have good running backs. You don't have a game

691
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: changer like Najie Harris at the moment. The offensive line

692
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: has been inconsistent this year. They're beat up on the edge.

693
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: On defense, I think the linebacking corps is better. I

694
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: think there's talent on all three levels. Think there's depth

695
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: on all three levels of this defense. My problem with

696
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: ole Miss is largely Alabama's ability to move the ball

697
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: against this defense, because while I think they're improved, I

698
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: think they're a little bit it's a bit overstated that

699
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: they've solved things on defense at this moment.

700
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: Does that matter?

701
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: Though?

702
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Are you looking? Are you looking at this game and

703
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 2: you're saying, wow, oh man, I don't their defense really

704
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: troubles me because like.

705
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: They can't they can't stop the run as impressibly as

706
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: I would have hoped. But yeah, continue, But like, I'm

707
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: not looking at this game and even factoring in Old

708
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: missus defense. I'm looking at this and saying, can Alabama's

709
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: defense stop the Old Miss offense? I don't think Ole

710
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Miss cares.

711
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: If they can stop Alabama. They can get a stop

712
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: or two, great, force a punt once or twice, that's great.

713
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna try to score in every possession, and for me,

714
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: it's a more question. We all do TI well, but

715
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: Ole Miss can do it.

716
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: I know. I understand. That's why Macral is really good.

717
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Macral has not played a good team this year, so

718
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: it's TBD.

719
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: At least.

720
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. If you are intent on scoring

721
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: a ton of points, so many points in fact, that

722
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: you beat Alabama, it helps to not be the most

723
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: penalized team in America, which Ole Miss happens to be

724
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: right now in terms of penalty yardage per game. I

725
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: know that opening that opener against Louisville was particularly ugly

726
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: and skews that number a bit but in terms of

727
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: giving away yards, giving away field position, I'd like I'd

728
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: like a more disciplined team. If I'm taking a team

729
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: outright or to cover, I'm gonna give those points. At home,

730
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give those two touchdowns. I think Ole Miss

731
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: is good, but I still think there's a considerable distance,

732
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: and I think Alabama's more tested that they can react

733
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: in more interesting ways. They held on against Florida. I'm

734
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: gonna go with Alabama here to win this game. I

735
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know. Forty one twenty four, wow, holding over the

736
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: now twenty four points, fifty one thirty four.

737
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: Gotta bump that up a little. That's fifty one to

738
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: thirty four, three point thirty on ABC, Your Oregon Ducks

739
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: the Eugene mud Hens on the road, an eight point

740
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: favorite at Stanford. Have you looked at Stanford's efficiency numbers, Dan,

741
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: I've watched Stanford football and look at their efficiency numbers. Yes,

742
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: their efficiency numbers are comically bad. Yes, they're the second

743
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: least efficient rushing team in the nation, almost equally as

744
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: bad at stopping the run. Per the numbers I'm seeing,

745
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Stanford is also projected to lose all eight of their

746
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: remaining games, and that includes five by double digits, including

747
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: this one.

748
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: And they're beat up on both sides of the ball, and.

749
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: They're beat up, so in theory, that should be a

750
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: big advantage for your mud hints. Why is this not

751
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: a double digit spread? Why isn't the point spread higher

752
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: than e.

753
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: They came back and tied it late against Ucla. They

754
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: forced Ucla to beat them late, They generated some big plays.

755
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: Tanner McKee didn't start and play a majority of that

756
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: Kansas State game, and so I don't know that they're

757
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: beating that healthy Kansas State team, but that game is

758
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: looking a lot more competitive. I think with Tanner McKee

759
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Oregon doesn't is not a team that covers games.

760
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Like Mario Cristobal, I think has only lost one game

761
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: at home. Now this game is in Palo Alto, but

762
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: he's only lost one game at home, and that was

763
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: to Stanford in that crazy fumble and going forward and

764
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: fumbling it one more time game against Stanford. They're better

765
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: on the road. I think they have a blow average

766
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: quarterback in Anthony Brown. I think he can make plays,

767
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: but in terms of actually like beating like Oregon just

768
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: plays down to teams they're also very beat up at linebacker.

769
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: They make mistakes, they make mental errors. It's a good team,

770
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: it's a really good team. But against a good quarterback

771
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: who might be able to pick on this defense a

772
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: little bit. We saw Arizona move the ball a good

773
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: amount against this Oregon team last week. I just I

774
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: think there are rightful concerns. I happen to think it's

775
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: an especially good matchup for Oregon so because of their

776
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: ability to move the ball on the ground against this

777
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Stanford defense. And Oregon come to play in bigger games,

778
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: and I think this is one of the bigger games

779
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: on their schedule. Again, better on the road. We saw

780
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: it against Ohio State, We've seen it against USC. They're

781
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: just better away from Eugene. Under Mario Cristobal. They just

782
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: seem to be more locked in.

783
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Which is crazy, so totally crazy, but it's wild. Again,

784
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: if you go based on the numbers, Stanford cannot stop

785
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: to run. Oregon could go out there and run the

786
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: wildcat and cover this point spread per some of the

787
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: efficiency numbers.

788
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: But again, it was a game. Was Zach Charboney running

789
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: for two hundred yards last week? It was a full

790
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: on game. Later on in the fourth quarter.

791
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: I don't know out look, if I'm wrong, I already

792
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: said I don't know what I'm doing this week. I'm

793
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: all over the map. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, But

794
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm laying the points here with Oregon. I agree with you.

795
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Oregon looks like they're head and shoulders above Stanford and

796
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: all the numbers that I think will matter in this game.

797
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: So let's go Duck's minus the eight.

798
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree. And one of the things that

799
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: has really helped out Oregon is they've been a sensational

800
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: turnover team. Now there is a randomness two turnovers, but

801
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: they've made the most of interceptible balls and fumbles. And

802
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau is even healthier. He didn't play all that

803
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: much against Arizona. He's expected to be much more of

804
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: a full go guy, and so if he is unblockable,

805
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, the strip sacks, the fumbles, whatever could could

806
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: be adding up. But uh yeah, I'm a little bit worried,

807
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: but I think this is a good spot for Oregon,

808
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: So I agree. And another warning, it's a Rod Gilmore game,

809
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just not a Gilmore guy, not ail. No,

810
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's a varsity app Game of the week right

811
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: where you can get a local radio local radio feed

812
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: to UH to accompany you during a matchup.

813
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: So just be fore warned. Three point thirty on Fox,

814
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: We've got Oklahoma ten and a half points the road

815
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: favorite going to Kansas State. This is a revenge spot

816
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma. It looks shaky in three of their four

817
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: games so far this season, but revenge spot they lost

818
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: last year, they lost the year before. Case States had

819
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: a bit of their number here over the last two seasons,

820
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: and Case States at home now. Case State is not

821
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: without their own issues. But we'll focus on Oklahoma here

822
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: for a second, because obviously it's a pretty big talking point.

823
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: We are four games into this college football season and

824
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: A Watson said about Oklahoma's lack of explosiveness the big plays.

825
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 2: I looked at the numbers. The numbers are striking, especially

826
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: if you compare to previous seasons. It is Wisconsin level

827
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: bad for Oklahoma. And I'm not saying that for a

828
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: quick joke. It is literally about the same as Wisconsin

829
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: so far this season. Part of that's the run game. Okay,

830
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: it's not been as effective, but it's mostly in the

831
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: passing game. Last season Theo Weese, we had Marvin Mims,

832
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Charleston Ramb, Austin Stoner, all those guys over eleven air

833
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: yards per target correct. All of them were double digits

834
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: this year, among the top four being Jaden Hazelwood, Mary Williams,

835
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: Mike Woods, and Marvin Mims. Only Mims has fourteen point

836
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: three and the next closest is seven point two. That

837
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: may not sound like much, It might sound like a

838
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 2: bunch of mumbo jumbo. I what do I care about

839
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: something like that. It's just one data point, but this

840
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: is an offense that is supposed to be explosive, and

841
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: there are a number of other indicators, not just air

842
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: yards that's my personal favorite. But there's a bunch of

843
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 2: stuff here underlying numbers indicating that it's not just a fluke.

844
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you ask me, am I worried about

845
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's offense, I'm worried about the offense because they have

846
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: not been able to do the one thing dan the

847
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: one thing that they're better at than most everybody. They

848
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: have not been able to do it this year, and

849
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: so you factor that in. I also think they've kind

850
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: of been sheepish. Chris Climb has been sheepish about whether

851
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: or not we're going to see skyl Or Thompson. Originally

852
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: he had the knee injury. They thought he was going

853
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: to be down for the year, but he was out

854
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: in the field last week moving around throwing the ball.

855
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Actually looked pretty good. If it turns out he plays

856
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: in this game, if he's able to run it, that

857
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: could be a difference. I just I kind of like

858
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: KSE State again here, man. I think they know how

859
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: to play Oklahoma. I think Oklahoma's going a bit against

860
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: the grain at the moment, trying to figure out their

861
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: own offense. Eventually, maybe they will get their act together,

862
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: but just so much of a headwind right now, going

863
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: to Manhattan, which is historically just a weird place to

864
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: play to begin with. I'm going k State outright again.

865
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: I'll say thirty one State hour.

866
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: What if Skyler Thompson doesn't play and Will Howard was

867
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: beat up, they have to go to the third string.

868
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother you, It doesn't move you. Yeah, quarterback questions.

869
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: It moves me. But I think KSE State is average

870
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: enough on defense, and they've been able to win this

871
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: game the last two years with having an aur enough defense.

872
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: That I'm going kse State outright.

873
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can go that far. I

874
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: definitely think Oklahoma is trying to tell us something. They're like, well, guys,

875
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: were not the same as normal.

876
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: They're blinking in the hostage video.

877
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm digging Case State as well. I hate that

878
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I hate that Oklahoma is secretly kind

879
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: of like defense and ball control at this point, Like

880
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: they're not running the ball that well, but they're moving

881
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: it nickel and diming shorter passes. The screen games, Okay,

882
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: they just don't have anything over the top consistently. Spencer

883
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Ratler is accurate enough, but he's made some mistakes. I

884
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: just I think Kansas State's good at the line of

885
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: scrimmage and they have an interesting, crazy good weapon at

886
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: times induced Vawn. I worry about quarterback health though. That's

887
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: the problem to me. So I guess Kansas State, if

888
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: you're thinking out right, are they not your home dog

889
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: of the week, the.

890
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: Yers home dog of the wee.

891
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: I love the confidence. See here's the thing. You came

892
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: out and said you were not all that confident, and

893
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: then with a quarterback issue, you still think Kansas State's

894
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: winning this game. Outright. So maybe I'm taking all the

895
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: credit for the altar of Dan, but the totem of tie.

896
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: You're putting the bricks down, Like maybe it's late in

897
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: the schedule, So I appreciate that. I think Kansastate covers

898
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: this spread, but I don't think they have the pop

899
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: to score. Like, how many points does it take to

900
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma outright in twenty twenty.

901
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 2: It might be twenty four.

902
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say twenty four to twenty eight points. Yeah,

903
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: I still think that's a lot. I still think that's

904
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: a lot if they have offensive health issues. So I

905
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: think they lose this game by a touchdown. I have

906
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: this game at twenty seven to twenty Oklahoma so to

907
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: get over their losing streak against the Cats. Big big

908
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: turnover ratio, by the way, turnover margin advantage for Oklahoma.

909
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: Here seven pm ESPN two Baylor at Oklahoma State. Oklahoma

910
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: State and a half points the favorite. This game's a

911
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: nightmare for me.

912
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: This one's tough. I went back and forth. This was

913
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: a pick and deleite, pick and deleite.

914
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: I took a dump on Baylor in the preseason, and

915
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: then I picked him out right and I got lucky

916
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: because it actually worked. I'm not going to profess to

917
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: being any kind of prognosticator. I got lucky. Yeah, Baylor

918
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: played well, but I got lucky. And then I was

919
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: down on Oklahoma State all year and I was drawing

920
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: weird Susan Boyle references and Spencer Sanders and all these things.

921
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: Then they looked good last week. He got a receiver back,

922
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: he threw for three forty four, whatever it was. They

923
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: actually looked pretty good going into this game. I have

924
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: no idea what the right read is. I don't feel

925
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: like I have a good sense for the pulse of

926
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, and so that's why it's even more

927
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: comical that I would go Case State outright over over Oklahoma.

928
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Texas TCU briefly. I have

929
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: no idea what direction it goes there. Do you have

930
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: any kind of read on this game. I hate that

931
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm going.

932
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: Baylor, but I am, and I'm sure Baylor people hate

933
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: that I'm going Baylor as well. Yeah, it was in

934
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: a game where I go back and forth and I

935
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: start looking at the margins, and Baylor's a much stronger

936
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: special teams team as we saw last week. In their

937
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: return game Oklahoma State, kicking Oklahoma State, and their ability

938
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: to get better over the course of a game offensively,

939
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: as we saw these last couple of weeks, not scoring

940
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: in the second halves of either of these games. Spencer

941
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: Sanders has been mistake prone overall, and now playing against

942
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: this is you know, David rand is not playing eleven positions.

943
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: But the Baylor, the Baylor defense, I think is I mean,

944
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: they've played a team, They've played one team this year

945
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: in Iowa State. But I believe the Baylor defense to

946
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: be maximized to be doing a good job of getting

947
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: to their ceiling. They run the ball, They've been able

948
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: to control clock a little bit. I do like John Abram,

949
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm going Baylor here. I think it's another lro situation.

950
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: To win two games in a row without scoring in

951
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: the second half. There is that hang on ability that

952
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't love. I don't think that's an actual skill.

953
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: If you need to hang on against Boise State and

954
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: a beat up k State team, I'm a little bit worried.

955
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: I think Baylor's fine. I do not think they're a

956
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: really good team. I think they're fine, but I think

957
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is flawed and so I think it's a

958
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: nice matchup that Baylor can again win this game on

959
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: the margins. So I'm going Bears here on the road,

960
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: hate it.

961
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: Hate it. My initial read was to go Pokes, thinking

962
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: that Baylor's on the road after a big home win

963
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: over Iowa State and that maybe there'd be a bit

964
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: of a letdown here. But I feel like everything that

965
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: I have read, everything that I have read is on Baylor,

966
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma State has issues kicking field goals as well.

967
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: By the way, two of five is Alex Hale. So

968
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: if you go back and forth, I'm just saying kicking issues,

969
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: return issues. The punt return game has been bad, like

970
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: there's just there's tiny little factors. And Oklahoma States also

971
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: banged up along the defensive line. Sure, on top of

972
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: the fact that Baylor was better in the trenches to

973
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: begin with, I think they were better in the trenches

974
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: going into this game. So I've waffled back and forth.

975
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: I think what I'm gonna do now on from here

976
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: on out on the Big twelve side is that whatever

977
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: my initial impression is.

978
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite

979
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: would have to be right.

980
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: Whatever the initial impression is I'm going the other directions,

981
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: So let's go Baylor outright?

982
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: We agree, yeah, and this is going to go. It'll

983
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: speak volumes about Dave Randa's coaching ability coming off of

984
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: his signature win for Baylor against Iowa State last week.

985
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: It's a big letdown spot going to a tough place

986
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: to play against a good defense, coming off of a

987
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: huge program, hopefully building win for Baylor. This is a

988
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: very easy game to get to, sort of get distracted

989
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: by after that the Iowa State wins, So looking forward

990
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: to sing how Baylor responds.

991
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: And finally ten thirty FS one Arizona State three point

992
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: underdog on the road at UCLA. You read the stat

993
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: last week from the Great College Football Reddit community PAC

994
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: twelve after dark underdogs are sixteen and two versus the

995
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: point spread. Do you have a reason to not go

996
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: ASU here?

997
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: Yes?

998
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: What is it?

999
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: I think UCLA is better at playing college football? Okay,

1000
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: that's my reason. Also, I mentioned the ole misstat about

1001
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: the most penalized team in America in terms of yardage

1002
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: per game. ASU is right there at one twenty nine.

1003
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: And so there is that part of me that thinks, okay,

1004
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: UCLA has to act together now Dorian Thompson Robinson was

1005
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: limping around, and so there's that issue with the offense

1006
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: and to squeak by not squeak by. They won by eleven,

1007
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: but you know, to get that much out of Zach

1008
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: Charbonnet and still not separate from a Stanford team that

1009
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: has its own issues. Now, the problem with ASU is

1010
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: ASU on the road. Granted it was at elevation. You know,

1011
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: we're big believers as we pull this train at the

1012
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: elevation station that that plays a part. So they struggle

1013
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: against BYU. There's the mistake laden game. I think Jayden

1014
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: Daniels has two touchdown passes to three interceptions. I believe

1015
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: that's his ratio at the moment. So ASU's passing game,

1016
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: which I believe is how you actually beat UCLA. I

1017
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: believe if you're able to block UCLA off the edge,

1018
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: which is a big if they've got some guys there

1019
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: that you can get over on UCLA through the air. Okay,

1020
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't see a go to receiver right now for ASU.

1021
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: I think they're leading receivers are running back. You can

1022
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: check on this, you can fact check all this, should

1023
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: you choose. I just I don't think ASU is specifically

1024
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: built with a consistently scary passing game or at least

1025
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: largely scary passing game to beat UCLA. Now, maybe it's

1026
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: a letdown situation after Ucla on the road beat Stanford.

1027
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's the case. I think there

1028
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: is a big advantage in Chip Kelly and the offensive

1029
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: coaching staff against ASU right now in herm Edwards, So

1030
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: I think ASU is merely fine. I think UCLA is

1031
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: good with its own issues, but I think they're good,

1032
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it's still the case, but

1033
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: I know going into last week, DTR was the most

1034
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: efficient passing quarterback in the Pac twelve. But if you

1035
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: watch DTR, you're like, I don't even know if he

1036
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: should be starting for a good team. And maybe there

1037
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: is a smoke and mirrors element I think. I think

1038
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck for a large large part of last season

1039
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: was the best quarterback just by numbers in the Pac twelve,

1040
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: and Oregon ended up not wanting to start him, And

1041
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's sort of you take the good, you

1042
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: take the bad, you take DTR. I just I find

1043
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: myself shying away from more about ASU than I am

1044
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: from UCLA. So at home. The line actually seems a

1045
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: little low to me, which is scary. I'm just not

1046
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: an ASU believer, I suppose. I guess that's that's what

1047
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: it all boils down to.

1048
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to our boy, Travis may

1049
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: sneaky stats every Tuesday soliverble dot com. Arizona State quietly

1050
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: ranks eighth and yards per play differential among all FBS

1051
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: college football teams. Yeah, they've outgained every single opponent this

1052
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: season in both total yards and yards per play, even

1053
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 2: against BYU. The game that they lost, they outgained BYU

1054
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: by Is that a good thing? Though?

1055
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Does that seek well of a team? That they out

1056
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: gain a team and lose by ten speaks a sort

1057
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: of bad coaching and undisciplined football, doesn't it?

1058
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely? But I'm just going to gravitate towards that one

1059
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: thing because I'm looking for a reason to go points here.

1060
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: So okay, no, that's fine, I'll go ASU, even though

1061
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: I left them for dead after they did me dirty.

1062
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ASU plus the points here.

1063
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: ASU has played one top fifty squad and that was BYU.

1064
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: They lose by ten Southern Utah UNLV. Would you know

1065
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: be among the worst FBS teams. Colorado is by far.

1066
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: Maybe not by far, yeah, by far. Arizona kept it

1067
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: pretty close against Oregon Pac twelve team, So I don't

1068
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: know how much we actually can glean from ASU September.

1069
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: But it's not the prettiest, Dan.

1070
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna go rapid fire, rapid fire. We got a

1071
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: bunch of other games here that I want to talk about.

1072
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: Let's just get the road runner mentality on here. Let's

1073
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: go to Friday night, if we travel back in time,

1074
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: but better better a PMFS one Iowa minus four on

1075
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: the road at Maryland, Dan, who you got?

1076
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: I am taking the team that I fear. I fear

1077
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: the turtle. Come on, ti. Iowa is fielding among its

1078
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: worst offenses of the past decade this year. They're winning

1079
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: with defense and incredible defense and turnovers. And I think

1080
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: at a certain point this is going to be the

1081
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: best defense that Iowa will have faced. Well, Iowa states,

1082
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: but this is a good defense at home Friday night,

1083
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: eight pm, under the lights, emotion, excitement, a good quarterback,

1084
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: int Latanga Bai looa good receivers. Not only are they

1085
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: my home dog of the week, Maryland is my lock

1086
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: of the week tie block of the week.

1087
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: Maybe get something at Ben's Chili Bowl. Maybe going over

1088
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 2: the Stuggies in Baltimore, Dan. They do a crab mac

1089
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: and cheese dog that I'm told is delightful. I am

1090
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: also on the Maryland Terrapins fear the Turtle Dan. Obvious

1091
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: look ahead spot for Iowa going back home next week,

1092
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: big game against Penn State. Yep, Friday night lights at Maryland.

1093
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: They're going to be fired up. I also think they

1094
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: can get after Spencer Peatris. Yeah.

1095
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean the strength of their defense is their ability

1096
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: to rush the passer and play the pass. And I

1097
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: think Petrice is a low average quarterback at this moment.

1098
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: And I have the Catalyst food truck over there in

1099
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: Silver Stae.

1100
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a good one too, Dog, It's a very

1101
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: good one too. Twelve o'clock ABC on Saturday, Texas on

1102
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: the road at TCU. They are favored by four and

1103
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: a half. Again, no idea which direction on this one here.

1104
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: I am gonna play Texas in this game. I think

1105
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: TCU's defense has been really bad, really bad, especially at

1106
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: stopping the run. And that's good news for Steve Sarkisian

1107
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: and Casey Thompson and certainly for Bejeon Robinson. So give

1108
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: me Texas minus whatever.

1109
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, nineteen, twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen,

1110
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, the field was painted purple. Tie. This is

1111
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: when you choose to turn against TCU. When they play Texas.

1112
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: They're dead to me, the only time you should feel

1113
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: good about TCU.

1114
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: Dead to me, Tie.

1115
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: You know this.

1116
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: In a changing world, Ty, we need to lean on

1117
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: all we can depend I need to take that soundpad

1118
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: away from you. What we know to be true? Oh God?

1119
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: And what do we know to be true? We know

1120
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: that the frogs own the horns.

1121
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: We just do.

1122
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: That's the blanket that keeps us warm in this sometimes

1123
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: very cold.

1124
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: Stop a piano music. I'm gonna bry.

1125
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking TCU here. I think this is the precise

1126
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: moment to think in Texas. I believe has Oklahoma a

1127
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: little bit of let down, look ahead dropping seventy on

1128
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: Texas Tech now, and they're not gonna look ahead of TCU.

1129
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: They lose to TCU every year. But there's something about

1130
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: this week and the game is in Fort Worth, correct, m.

1131
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: So you're taking Texas with Sark as a road favorite.

1132
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: Now Sark has lost to TCU in his life as

1133
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: a Texas head coach. It's unfair to put this all

1134
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: on him. But at the same time, the college football

1135
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: universe is bigger than Sark. I'm going frogs here, Tye.

1136
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: They are my home dog of the week another word

1137
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: for word, a double home. I'll do all over the

1138
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: place tie home dog of the week now because not

1139
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: only is it a home dog, which, by the way,

1140
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: nearly famous Burger is over there in Arlington, just outside

1141
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: of Fort Worth, but because it's a let down look

1142
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: ahead sandwich spot. To me, you can go to the

1143
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: Meat Board or Colossal Sandwiches for sandwiches in the Greater

1144
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Forworth area.

1145
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock ACC Network Pitt minus three on the road

1146
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech, Dan, I am going Pitt. I think

1147
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: Tech is plucky. I think they're gonna jump up and

1148
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: get somebody this year. I don't think it's gonna be PITT.

1149
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: I like the Panthers.

1150
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: What is it that you like about Pitt though?

1151
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: I like that they're a veteran team with a good quarterback.

1152
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: I feel better about the fact that they scored seventy

1153
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: seven points last week. I'll be it against New Hampshire. Yep,

1154
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: i'llbe it against New Hampshire. I think Pitt is a

1155
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: good team that we probably won't talk enough about this year.

1156
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: Patnardoozy is six and two as a road favorite since

1157
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, So there is that pitt sneaks by Tennessee.

1158
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: Pitt loses to Western Michigan. I don't know what part

1159
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: of Pitt you're thinking is good, but those are underlying

1160
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: results that might suggest that they're merely Okay, I'm all in.

1161
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm enthusiastic. I'm going all in with Georgia Tech as

1162
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: another home dog, not my home dog of the week,

1163
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: but I'm going that's that's my belief system once again,

1164
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: to go with a home dog with a good defense,

1165
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily a difficult place to play.

1166
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 2: But is it the second part of that, a good

1167
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: defense and a good quarterback?

1168
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: I think? I mean Jeff Simms had a nice game

1169
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: last week? Did he not?

1170
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: All right? Whatever, let's move on.

1171
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: Hot dog pets, hot dog petes for.

1172
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: If you know what that is. Louisville on the road

1173
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: at Wake. Wake is a six and a half point favorite.

1174
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: I think we can move past this one where both wake.

1175
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: Watchers here at the soliverbol we are absolutely undefeated wake

1176
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: watchers at least eight and no wake watchers. I'm going

1177
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: wake here. They just they have their act together. They

1178
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: absolutely have their act together. And Louisville is just a

1179
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: team that doesn't.

1180
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: They do not. They do not.

1181
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, I think TCU will run all

1182
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: over Texas. I didn't give an actual football reason. I

1183
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: think tc is gonna have a nice time on the

1184
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: ground with Zach Evans.

1185
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: Continue Ohio State minus fifteen on the road at Rutgers.

1186
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: For Rutgers here playing Michigan in Ohio State and back

1187
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: to back weeks. Next week They've got Michigan State. Kyle

1188
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: McCord has been named the starter for Ohio State. Last

1189
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: year this game or moving forward for this game. Interesting

1190
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: Last year Ohio State won this one by twenty two

1191
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: at home with a much better team. I'm gonna say

1192
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: Rutgers Rutgers plus the number eight if I am forced

1193
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: to pick, They're not winning out right, but plus the number,

1194
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: I'll go Rutgers.

1195
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: Is Kyle McCord a true freshman Yep, he is a

1196
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: true freshman Okay from Philly. I believe Saint Jose yep

1197
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: betting against another local youth football legend, Tyler Branton. Kyle

1198
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: McCord always group together. I'm going Ohio State here. In

1199
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: order to beat Ohio State or hang with Ohio State,

1200
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: you need to score points. That is not what Rutgers does.

1201
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: They're led much more so by their defense. I think

1202
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State is slowly thawing on offense. BA with CJ. Strotter,

1203
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: Kyle McCord, I go Ohio State. What'd you say the.

1204
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: Number was at last ten fifteen?

1205
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: I think they went by three touchdowns.

1206
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: Plus six pm ESPN Florida minus eight on the road

1207
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: at Kentucky. Will Levis's back, Baby, he is back. That's

1208
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: why I'm going to Florida. Florida minus the number.

1209
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm going Florida minus the number as well. The turnover

1210
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: scare me actually from both of these quarterbacks. I think

1211
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: both of them have thrown five picks. But Kentucky's offense

1212
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: is not as dynamic as I wish I had hoped

1213
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: I had believed. I don't know what my English is here,

1214
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: but early on in the season, I'm going with Florida

1215
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: here to run all over Kentucky.

1216
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: Seven PMSCC network. Mississippi State at Texas A and M.

1217
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: A and M favored by seven, which feels like entirely

1218
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: too much came down from about nine though, right came down, Yeah,

1219
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: came down. The state of A and M's offense right

1220
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: now leaves much to be desired. I think for that reason,

1221
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: I would favor Mississippi State, but I don't love the

1222
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: matchup for them either, So I went back and forth

1223
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: on this one. I settled on Mississippi State. I could

1224
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: be talked into A and.

1225
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: M by the way you spoke of devalueing Clemson. So

1226
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 1: do we up value Mississippi State for beating NC State?

1227
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what our word is. What's the opposite

1228
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: of the value.

1229
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: Do we justify the value it appreciated in value it

1230
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: appreciated it?

1231
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: But I don't. But Mississippi State then look terrible at

1232
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: times against LSU. So I don't know how we feel

1233
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: about this. We've been talking about it on Slack. Everybody sucks, Yeah,

1234
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: every I don't think everybody sucks. I just think it's

1235
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: it's a snapchat Saturday every week. It doesn't matter what

1236
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: you Yeah, it's all ephemeral. I have Mississippi State here,

1237
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: and I hate that I do because I don't like

1238
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: Mississippi State's ability to finish drives and uh string together

1239
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: impressive drive Like it's just nothing I love about Mississippi State,

1240
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: especially on offense here, So I hate that I'm going

1241
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: with it, But yeah, I am going Mississippi State on

1242
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: the road. I think just textas A and M how

1243
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: beat up they are upfront on offense with their inability

1244
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: to drive the field. They against Arkansas good team against

1245
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: Arkansas A and M wasn't even putting together seven plays

1246
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards and a punt. It was like five

1247
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: for negative two over and over again. Yeah, that's terrifying

1248
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: to me. And against I still think Mississippi State is

1249
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: a decent defense. So I'm just going with what I

1250
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: think is the slightly more complete team in state. But

1251
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: I hate this pick as well.

1252
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: Seven point thirty ABC Indiana at Penn State. Penn State

1253
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: favored by ten and a half through my lock for one,

1254
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: Indiana has not looked good and Michael Pennix seems like

1255
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: he is off again coming back from the knee injury. Secondly,

1256
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: Penn State lost last year and it opened up a

1257
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: hellscape of the season immediately thereafter, and they've looked good

1258
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: so far this year. It's a revenge game for them.

1259
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: It's at night. They're starting to find their stride on offense.

1260
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand why this line is not higher. This

1261
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: should be at least fourteen. So let's lock up Penn

1262
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: State minus ten and a half.

1263
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't the line isn't higher because Indiana is

1264
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: sort of the Fox Moulder team of the year that

1265
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: I want to believe in Indiana, but they're just not

1266
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: now or they're just not generating plays downfield on offense. Defensively,

1267
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: I think they play the pass relatively well, so Sean

1268
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Clifford might have some issues. But no, I think Indiana

1269
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: might be the cure for the common team, even if

1270
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: they don't look great that you can comfortably beat at

1271
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: the NASO.

1272
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: That's Minnesota.

1273
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that is Minnesota. I like Penn State here,

1274
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: and I think in two or three weeks this would

1275
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: have been a sixteen and a half point line.

1276
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: Seven point thirty acc Network Boston College at Clemson, Clemson

1277
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: favored by fifteen and a half. Tough break for them.

1278
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: As you said, Brian Brazi done for the year with

1279
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: the acl.

1280
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: And shape for a while.

1281
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shipley is not going to be done for the year,

1282
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: but he's going to be out about three to four weeks.

1283
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 2: I have not seen an update on James Skalski's he playing.

1284
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: I can look, but give me your thoughts on the

1285
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: games overall. While well, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: My point here. My only frame of reference is that

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Speaker 2: Clemson seemed like despirited last week and did not look good.

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01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: Has not looked good all year. Boston College. I don't

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Speaker 2: like the fact that they're playing with Dennis Grozel at quarterback,

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: but sure he was fine, He's been fine, and I

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 2: trust a lot in Jeff Hathley to get BC fired up.

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: So not saying an outright win, but fifteen and a

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Speaker 2: half's a lot against a team that I feel right

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Speaker 2: now is really trying to define its way again, trying

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Speaker 2: to build some momentum. Let's go BC plus the number.

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Speaker 1: So Skalski expected back, as is Mario Goodrich at corner

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Speaker 1: for Clemson. You mentioned Brizzy and Will Shipley on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball, but yeah, they were down

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Speaker 1: three four guys Clemson last week against NC State. I'm

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Speaker 1: going BC here. I this there I mean, Clemson is

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Speaker 1: the give me a reason, Just give me a reason

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Speaker 1: to believe in this Clemson offense, because I think there

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: is rightfully reason to believe in BC as a well

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: coached team with a decent enough defense. They ran the

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: ball really well last week, and like we just have

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: to see it from Clemson before, Like, okay, you're a

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: sixteen to fifteen point favorite against a team who hasn't lost, granted,

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: haven't played great teams.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This feels like an eight and a half, nine and

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01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: a half point spread to me, and we are just

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01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: trying to convince ourselves that Clemson just needs that one

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01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: week to become Clemson once again. And I don't know

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01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: if that's necessarily the case. They tried to give that

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01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: game to NC State over and over last week, and

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: then NC State in turn tried to give it to Clemson.

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm going Boston College to keep it within

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: about ten points.

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01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: And finally, nine PMSPN Auburn at LSU. LSU favored by

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Speaker 2: three and a half points. Nobody has any idea what

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: to pick here, right, I'm really in the fence. I

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01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 2: don't think all that much of either of these teams

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, Okay, I like Auburn's secondary. I

1324
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: guess that's the thing. I don't like their quarterback. I

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: never have LSU at home. I think is a tough cookie.

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Speaker 2: But I can see this being a field goal. And

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01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: because I don't know where to pick, I'm going to

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: go points. I'm gonna go Auburn plus the points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with the team that isn't counting on

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01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: either Bonix or TJ. Finley at quarterback. So the fact

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Speaker 1: that that team also is playing at home night game

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge. What nine eastern, nine eastern so eight

1333
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: pm local? Yeah, I'm going with LSU here to win

1334
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: this game by a touchdown. Yeah, Yeah, I feel fine

1335
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: about it.

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: All right, we did it. We made it through.

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can I give you a couple of bone

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: bonus Jonas type games that are just existing. Yeah, Virginia

1339
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: is hosting Miami. You can get into that for twelve

1340
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: dollars on Thursday night. So there's a home dog if

1341
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: you like Virginia. I think the worst thing this game

1342
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: is a Virginia defense. Tennessee at Miszoo in a something's

1343
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: got to give in terms of like Both of these

1344
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: teams are penciling in this game as a maybe win,

1345
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: so one of them has to get it. Nevada Boise

1346
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: six and a half points. Boise is the favorite here,

1347
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: but should feature some good offenses, so that's fun. That's

1348
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: I think. Saturday Afternoon Louisiana Tech NC State. Now it's

1349
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: a nineteen and a half point favorite situation for NC State,

1350
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: but there is that let down, look ahead, open face

1351
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: sandwich factor here with NC State coming off of that

1352
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: Clemson win. Louisiana twelve and a half point road favorites

1353
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: against South Alabama. That's three and one against three and zero.

1354
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: Another interesting something's got to give in the Sun Belt.

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Speaker 2: Excellent? All right, well, Week five should be a loaded slate.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to call the reaverblind at fourh eight verbal

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Speaker 2: one as you're watching these games. If you are out

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Speaker 2: and about Dan, check out our friends over at the

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Speaker 2: of the secret sauce for me. Yeah, with a mysterious

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Speaker 2: day job, all those years driving around on the weekends,

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out what's going on. Just tune into

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, real quick, ty, if you can do

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Speaker 1: me just a solid and drop that big thank you,

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Speaker 1: breaking fucking blesting Drummond.

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Speaker 2: Fife, All right, Dan, twelve pm on ESPN Plus. Yale

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: at Lee High. I broke my soundboard. I hit this

1377
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: so hard. Yale at Lee High. You go in Yale's,

1378
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: you go in Mountain Hawks. Who you got?

1379
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: I just I bet against the engineers to Eddie every opportunity,

1380
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 1: give me the give.

1381
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: Me handsome Dan, the Yale Bulldogs. I'm gonna go the

1382
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: Yale Bulldogs as well. Lei's actually been terrible this year.

1383
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Speaker 2: One point thirty, also on ESPN Plus. Make the most

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Speaker 2: of that ESPN Plus subscription Harvard at Holy Cross Dan

1385
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: which way you're going?

1386
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: Incredible matchup, two good teams. I'm going Cross Aiders here,

1387
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:44,839
Speaker 1: TI you gotta.

1388
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: Cross, gotta go cross Saders. Colgate at Georgetown traveling to

1389
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: Multi sport Field. This one is at two pm. So

1390
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: if you're wondering do I watch this game? Do I

1391
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: watch Notre Dame against Cincinnati? I would say put this

1392
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: one on the big screen and put Notre Dame Cincinnati

1393
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: on the laptop or on your phone or something like that.

1394
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, this is the what Nell's bells? What

1395
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: do we call in this matchup? When we went Cornell

1396
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: against Bucknell?

1397
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about Colgate Georgetown.

1398
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Colgate Georgeown. Oh man, we don't need to

1399
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: talk about that. That's just the Hornet's Nest game. Yeah,

1400
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: go Georgetown. I was I was already skipping ahead to

1401
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: Nell's Bells.

1402
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 2: Good hell Nell's Bells nor Cornell at Bucknell Battle of

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Speaker 2: the Nellies ESPN plus of course, Official Network of the

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Speaker 2: pat League, three thirty Eastern time. I'm going Cornell, you

1405
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: know I always go Cornell.

1406
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm going buck Noll. Ever since you told me that

1407
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,440
Speaker 1: it's basically a land mote like the Earth has protected

1408
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: Bucknell from polite society that there's nothing around there, So

1409
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be disorienting to Cornell.

1410
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: It's a big, pretty hill with nice buildings and there's

1411
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: nothing else.

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01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, next game.

1413
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: And finally three thirty ESPN plus Fordham at Lafayette three

1414
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: thirty again, put this one on the big screen, maybe

1415
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: go bam Ole missed.

1416
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: Put it on two screens just in case.

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Forda, Matt Lafayette, where you going?

1418
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm going Fordham here. I think Lehigh and Lafayette are

1419
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: both very bad, and I really am hopeful that Lehigh

1420
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: Lafayette is not scheduled for another giant stadium this year

1421
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: because they both seem bad. So I'm going forward them here,

1422
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: going pizza advantage with the Rams, pizza advantage with the

1423
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: Fordham Rams.

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: Dan. Now I think we are finally at the conclusion

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: of this show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. If again, if you listen to

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Speaker 1: the altar of Dan, you might be making some money.

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Speaker 1: Ty there it is. There's my casino sound.

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Speaker 2: I need to figure out how to get rid of that.

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Speaker 1: Also, if you lose money because of the alter Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm not responsible. Continue nice little disclaim.

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Speaker 2: had a lot of fun doing it last week. We'll

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Speaker 2: have even more fun doing it this week. We also

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Speaker 2: have a Friday show the WSV News Radio. Got a

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Speaker 2: new jingle I'm going to play this week, Dan, Is

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Speaker 2: that true? You got a new jingle? Oh yeah, custom jingle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that we'll see. I believe it's a Bell c week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll see on your Sidal topill.

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Speaker 2: Andy Staples coming on the show this week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.

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