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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 4: I am Dale Lolly here with Matt Williams and Rob

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Speaker 4: King will be joining joining us here in a few

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Speaker 4: minutes where we are live from Steelers training camp here

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Speaker 4: at Saint Vincent College. The Steelers just wrapping up their

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Speaker 4: practice for the day, and earlier today Matt heard from

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin Yeah, yeah, saying he's excited to see what

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Speaker 4: the Steelers are going to look like against another team

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Speaker 4: and did make note that, as we talked about last week,

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Speaker 4: that you know, the Houston Texans have a game in

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Speaker 4: hand here and so they're a little more prepared.

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Speaker 1: And Tomlin actually likes that. No, I do too. I

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Speaker 1: think you want to stiff a challenge as possible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to game plan all week for these

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Speaker 1: guys or C. CJ. Stroud for sixty minutes or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. But the fact that they're young guys have

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Speaker 1: have done that, you know, been there, done it, I

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Speaker 1: we're kind of splitting hairs here, all that and all that,

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Speaker 1: but it would be good. Sounds like Wilson will not play.

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Speaker 1: Wilson is definitely not going to play.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 4: That was one of the ones that there's seven guys

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Speaker 4: that Tomlin said won't play. That's Cam Hayward, TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 4: Alex high Smith, Minka Fitzpatrick, Patrick Queen, Isaac Saamalo, and

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Speaker 1: Makes sense, Okay, that would be the Yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: He's been dealing with a little bit of an injury.

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Speaker 4: Was back today, but there's no reason to play him. No,

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Speaker 4: I think they know what they have in him and

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Speaker 4: Fields is going to start behind the number one offensive

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Speaker 4: line minus the left guard. That probably will be Anderson,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't you think, Uh could Yeah, probably Anderson, It could

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well see, I think both those guys will play

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Speaker 1: but all the skill position to do or nausey or Warren.

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Speaker 1: But I mean all the skilled guys will be out

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Speaker 1: there for field, so you should get a good luck. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Tomlin said that he expects fields and those guys

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Speaker 4: and then you're gonna see a lot of the younger guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of those guys need to decay

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Speaker 1: for themselves. I mean, I think defensive backs is one

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Speaker 1: position that could you know, move around in the eyes

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Speaker 1: also think Alan, if he's going to be the quarterback

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Speaker 4: Two of the receivers he did single out as having

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Speaker 1: He's very apparently Jefferson, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Maybe they catch a lot of balls between

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Speaker 1: He's had a great camp. He's had a great camp

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so that's one duo. Uh, that's a position. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: They know what he can do and he's sort of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was somebody to know anything about when I

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Speaker 1: And you know, guys like that have to be great

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Speaker 4: And that's that's one of the things that you're you know,

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely monstrous. I mean, a big thing. I've always

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been saying for a while they don't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're getting a helmet that goes a long way.

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Speaker 4: what he has been. He and Fields kind of alternated

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Speaker 1: That's two days in a row, right, Yeah, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: Looks so sharp. I think I thought so too. Oh.

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Speaker 3: He has been I think really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we haven't got to see a ton obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think he's clearly gotten better since he's been here.

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Speaker 1: In terms of game planning, this isn't exactly game planning,

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Speaker 4: Without question, what you don't want to see in those

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Speaker 3: I'm going to put them out there. You do what

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Speaker 3: opportunities open for guys who are undrafted or unheralded to

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Speaker 4: you got here necessarily. Now, if your first round pick,

434
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Speaker 4: obviously that's a little different, but there's no difference here.

435
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Speaker 4: They don't view you know, a fifth round pick any

436
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Speaker 4: different than Beanie Bishop, right, you know, Beanie Bishops, Okay,

437
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 4: you're the best guy. We're you're you're the number one

438
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 4: slot corner right now, right now. You know that can change.

439
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 4: But again, it doesn't matter how you got here. It's

440
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Speaker 4: just that you're here. You're all Steelers now.

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Speaker 1: And these young guys need to prove it the coaches

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Speaker 1: that they can take coaching and teaching from the meeting

443
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Speaker 1: room and the film and the whiteboard to the practice field. Okay,

444
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,719
Speaker 1: we've seen enough of that. We know who can and

445
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Speaker 1: can at this point. And then to Rob's point, can

446
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Speaker 1: you take it to a game against a different opponent

447
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Speaker 1: that you're not used to practicing against every day. And

448
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Speaker 1: there's some that kind of skip that middle step that

449
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Speaker 1: they're not great practice players, you know, but in the

450
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Speaker 1: games they make play after play after play, and those

451
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Speaker 1: guys are hard to cut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are.

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Speaker 4: And I had an interesting conversation yesterday with Aaron Curry

454
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Speaker 4: asking him about some one of the things that we've

455
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Speaker 4: been talking about, Matt, and that was that was, you know,

456
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Speaker 4: they seemed to be putting a lot on the play

457
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Speaker 4: to Peyton will Wilson, and I said, you know, did

458
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Speaker 4: you do that? And say hey, let's let's throw them

459
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Speaker 4: out there, have him do all this stuff and see

460
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Speaker 4: if he sinks or swims, he goes. There's there's no

461
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Speaker 4: there was never any question that he was going to

462
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Speaker 4: swim like he's you know, he just he gets it.

463
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Speaker 4: He gets it, and you know we he's just he's

464
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Speaker 4: been a you know, a professional all the way, asked

465
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Speaker 4: all the right questions, knows the defense inside. Now I'm

466
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Speaker 4: like great and.

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Speaker 1: The mental in that position is as important as a physical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and showed up in fantastic shape was singled out,

469
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Speaker 3: singled out again by Mike Tomlinson. But he's asked about

470
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Speaker 3: Peyton once the first he showed up in great shape,

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Speaker 3: ready to go.

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Speaker 1: That's right. That's on you guys. You know you get

473
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Speaker 1: show ups before you get here. Do your work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got to put the work in before you get

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Speaker 1: out here.

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Speaker 4: And that includes in the classroom, knowing the playbook, but

477
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Speaker 4: also being able to be in the physical shape because

478
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Speaker 4: a lot of rookies show up they think they're in

479
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Speaker 4: great shape and they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not right and they're not not for this. No, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was really apparent in my recruiting days.

482
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Speaker 1: You know, I was best shaving in my high school

483
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Speaker 1: football team. You're like the worst shape here.

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Speaker 3: And there's there's more this to this. There's more this

485
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Speaker 3: to the Steelers than there are than there is to

486
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Speaker 3: other teams. Talked to a couple of players with different organizations.

487
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Speaker 3: It's this is a different deal with the Steelers and.

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Speaker 1: That's a joke. I mean, that's not.

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Speaker 3: No, it was I'm not saying any names because I

490
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Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, I was talking to him

491
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Speaker 3: off camera and so, but I mean, no, they they're like,

492
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Speaker 3: this is this is hard here. I mean, you know,

493
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Speaker 3: in a good way. I mean they're they're fired about.

494
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Speaker 3: The players love the challenge, they loved the whole atmosphere,

495
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Speaker 3: you know, the fans and the and the cheering. But

496
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Speaker 3: they said, hey, this is this is no joke. Mike

497
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Speaker 3: Tomlin runs a rigorous camp.

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Speaker 1: And if it's not for you, you're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: around your loan, right, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: He was asked about that today and and said, hey,

501
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Speaker 4: how does this compare to your first camp here in

502
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Speaker 4: two thousand and seventy as well? That was medieval times, right,

503
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Speaker 4: He said you could do two a days and he

504
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Speaker 4: and and he made a good point, he said, outside

505
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Speaker 4: of Cam Hayward and Russell Wilson, most of these guys

506
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Speaker 4: have never had to do two a days.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's been that long, huh. I mean, it just

508
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen in the league anymore.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of colleges are going away with those

510
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Speaker 4: kinds of things as well, and so you know, but

511
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Speaker 4: this is this is his physical a setting for.

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Speaker 1: It's allowed as you're allowed to do in the NFL.

513
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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And everyone will tell you that to

514
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Speaker 1: spend to different teams like Rob mentioned.

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Speaker 3: You know. The other thing is too is I mean

516
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Speaker 3: more and more. And we've talked about this a lot,

517
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Speaker 3: you know, I think Whitey Ford and Basse players had

518
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Speaker 3: joke that his off season regiment was to get a tan.

519
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Speaker 3: He said, if you can chope with the tan, you

520
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Speaker 3: look five pounds lighter coming out, Whitey, you look like

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Speaker 3: you look great. Yeah, I've had a great off.

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Speaker 1: Wonder look heavy all the time.

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Speaker 3: I can't, I don't, right, And then they then they

524
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Speaker 3: would just go out and start trying to get in shape.

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Speaker 3: And you know, players would jog a little before camp,

526
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Speaker 3: but the guys were throwing up on them turn forty runs.

527
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Speaker 3: I mean that's not gonna happen anymore. These guys, you know,

528
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Speaker 3: it's a year round and of course there's way more money,

529
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Speaker 3: there's way more at stake, but it is a year

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Speaker 3: round occupation. These guys might take ten days off and

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Speaker 3: then they're right back in the weight room again. So

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, but still, you know, adjusting as a

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Speaker 3: young player to this. And I do wonder if you know,

534
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Speaker 3: with two a days, because no matter how great is

535
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Speaker 3: shape you were in, that was going to sap your body.

536
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Speaker 3: And there's a lot more hitting. I do wonder if

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Speaker 3: that maybe you know that rookie wall I wonder if

538
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Speaker 3: that exists as much as it used to.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it definitely still does. I mean seventeen games, you know,

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Speaker 1: coming off.

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Speaker 4: Your speeding, physicality, all the stuff that you do in

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Speaker 4: the offseason, no doubt has has an effect on them.

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Speaker 4: He is Rob King. That's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to our live ongoing coverage here on the

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Speaker 4: drive from Steelers training camp here at Saint Pencent College

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Speaker 4: of Steelers. Just finishing up their practice session here a

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Speaker 4: little bit earlier today. They'll be back again tomorrow for

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Speaker 4: the rare pre one day before a game practice that

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Speaker 4: is open to the public. We're going to take a

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Speaker 4: break here on Fox Sports Pittsburgh and Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: On your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: Guys, I'm looking here at a p saw by Jeff

555
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: Shahidah on the NFL numbers and talking about the top

556
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Speaker 4: divisions in the league.

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Speaker 1: Is there really there's no There's no question, no question.

558
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Speaker 1: Like to me, number one and number eight are very clear.

559
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Speaker 1: You could fight about two through seven if you want.

560
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Speaker 1: But one is the one we're looking at, and eight

561
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Speaker 1: is the NFC.

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Speaker 4: South, right, Yeah, and then everybody else is kind of

563
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Speaker 4: in between. I don't think we see a division that's

564
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Speaker 4: close to the AFC.

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Speaker 1: North NFC West. I mean, alifann's close, But I mean,

566
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Speaker 1: who would be your two without even like looking at

567
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Speaker 1: the article. Maybe the AFC East. The Patriots are bad.

568
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Speaker 1: Patriots are bad.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals I think are better than the Patriots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're a distant fifth in the North, Yeah, I

572
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Speaker 1: mean distant. Could it be the NFC North. NFC North

573
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Speaker 1: isn't bad, I would say Bears and Packers could be

574
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Speaker 1: a lot better. Yeah, Lions conceivably could be better than

575
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Speaker 1: any team in the North. They could be the king

576
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Speaker 1: of the North, so to speak. Vikings are probably last,

577
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Speaker 1: but they don't stink. No, they're not bad. I think

578
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Speaker 1: that'd be my second pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was lost in that, so I missed

580
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Speaker 3: the rest of the conversation. So yeah, if you if

581
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Speaker 3: the Bear but have a Minnesota, They're going to take

582
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Speaker 3: a step back, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: I would think thought that last year though, too, and

584
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Speaker 1: they really they did, but they didn't even after Cousins

585
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Speaker 1: got hurt. They were They went through a million quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is there a chance Darnold doesn't stink? I mean,

587
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Speaker 3: I'm intrigued. He came out of college. Yeah, it's just

588
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Speaker 3: about the highest ranked quarterback in memory.

589
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Speaker 1: He's younger than Kenny Pickett. He's been a league like

590
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: six or seven years too, and he still could have

591
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Speaker 1: his best football ahead of him, right, Like, I never

592
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Speaker 1: want a name, but you get hurt. But I would

593
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Speaker 1: have been super intrigued if Rock Purdy would have missed

594
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Speaker 1: six weeks or something like that in a perfect situation,

595
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Speaker 1: because his jet situation was awful. Carolina situation was worse,

596
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Speaker 1: you know, like it's on him too. He makes a

597
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: lot of the same mistakes. But help the guy out

598
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Speaker 1: a little.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, and maybe you guys would know

600
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: better off the top of your head than I'm trying

601
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Speaker 3: to think, like quarterbacks who just needed a better situation

602
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Speaker 3: and hopefully the fields.

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith's a perfect example. Yeah, that's a real good one.

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Speaker 3: Rannehill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's another good one. Another good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Mostly I think those are the fish women against

607
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Speaker 3: the current, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: For the most I think you ruined guys too. Without doubt.

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Speaker 4: Tim I always said, like people talk about Tim Couch

610
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Speaker 4: with the Browns, and I maintained that, you know, if

611
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Speaker 4: Tim Couch had gone somewhere other than an expansion Cleveland franchise,

612
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Speaker 4: really the same thing with with David Carr as well Thosemple.

613
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Speaker 3: If those two.

614
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Speaker 4: Guys had gone somewhere other than expansion franchises, they may

615
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Speaker 4: have been pretty good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And the NFL didn't help you the one of those

617
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Speaker 1: franchises out Like no, they got Panthers and Jags, Like

618
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Speaker 1: those guys had good They paid for that. They paid

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Speaker 1: for the Panthers and Jags being good by year two.

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Speaker 1: You know, I worked with the Browns not that much

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Speaker 1: later than the Tim Couch era, and there were people

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Speaker 1: in the building for both times and they all said, oh,

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Speaker 1: we destroyed that four kid. I mean, like he could

624
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Speaker 1: have been really good and we destroyed him. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was the obvious first pick in the draft that

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Speaker 1: he had no chance.

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Speaker 3: Can you unruin a guy?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's your think.

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Speaker 1: Is a good one.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to unravel. So the Steelers are trying to

632
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Speaker 3: perhaps unravel a little bit with Justin Field.

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Speaker 4: I think you break it back down and you start

634
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Speaker 4: from scratch to a certain degree. That's why Mike tom

635
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: was talking today about reworking the footwork and things of

636
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: that nature, like things that when you're the starting quarterback

637
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Speaker 4: for a team, you don't have time necessarily to do

638
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: those kind of things because your your entire existence is

639
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: wrapped up in geting ready for the next game during.

640
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Speaker 1: The season, all the game plans, all the games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're the number one quarterback in the off season,

642
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: everything that you do. You may work on some of

643
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: these things a little bit, but your main job is

644
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: to lead the team and so you don't have time

645
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 4: to go off on the side and work on your

646
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: footwork and things like that, because you're out there. You're

647
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Speaker 4: supposed to be out there running the first team offense

648
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Speaker 4: all the time, which is always on the field, which

649
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: is a full time job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you know, say.

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Speaker 3: The least I would say this. So there's so much

652
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Speaker 3: on the line when you draft a quarterback. You know,

653
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Speaker 3: the general manager's job is on the line.

654
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Speaker 1: The minuty draft everybody in the building, really, everybody in

655
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Speaker 1: the building.

656
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Speaker 3: Your franchise, the direction of your franchise, everything is on

657
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Speaker 3: the line it. They will exhaust every possibility, I would think,

658
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Speaker 3: for the most part, to make sure that you know,

659
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Speaker 3: if they're going down with the ship, they've done everything

660
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: they can to try to, you know, maximize.

661
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Speaker 1: The ship brace. Yeall right, yeah, right, right.

662
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Speaker 3: So so that you're right, they're going to do everything

663
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Speaker 3: they can. And I' often thought about this. I guess

664
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Speaker 3: if you're a general manager and you believe you have

665
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Speaker 3: a franchise altering quarterback, you always take him now because

666
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: everything's degrees. What if you have a quarterback or you think, well,

667
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: this guy could take us pretty far with a really

668
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: good team, do you take that guy before your team

669
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Speaker 3: is ready, because I think in a lot of the

670
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Speaker 3: instances we've talked about the teams, the franchises have done

671
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: a disservice to that quarterback by not having enough pieces

672
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Speaker 3: around him, by not having the right offensive coordinator, by

673
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: not having an offensive line. Going back to the thing

674
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Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow that I mentioned a couple of shows ago,

675
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Speaker 3: where if I was in Cincinnati's position, I would have

676
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Speaker 3: taken Penny Swell. I remember saying that. I remember thinking

677
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Speaker 3: how ludicrous that seemed. With how great Chase was. Seems

678
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: a little less ludicrous now because Sewell has developed in

679
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: such a great player. But to me, I would want

680
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: that offensive line first to protect him. If I have

681
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Speaker 3: a ming vase, I don't want to carry it around

682
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: in a wet paper I think it's football.

683
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to go pink out.

684
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: I would not want to carry it around in a

685
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: wet paper bag. You know what I mean. You got

686
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Speaker 3: to protect that valuable item you have, which is the quarterback.

687
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: So I always think it's an intriguing question that franchises face.

688
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: I think if it's if you think he's the guy,

689
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: if you're like, wow, CJ. Stroud. We got to build

690
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: a team around him. But man, he is the next

691
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, He's the next Tom Brady, He's the next

692
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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger. Then you gotta take him, right, don't you

693
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Speaker 3: have to take him? Other than that? Are you if

694
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Speaker 3: he's if.

695
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Speaker 1: He's the next Joe Flacco? You got to do that

696
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: with them? Yeah? Yeah, guy that And I know we

697
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Speaker 1: always yeah.

698
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Speaker 4: We always joke about the Flacco franchise. He led a

699
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Speaker 4: team the super Bowl, really good career.

700
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But can get a guy like that later in

701
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Speaker 3: the draft, you know what I mean? So, so do

702
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Speaker 3: you be? So? The problems are? And maybe I should

703
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: lay out a better argument here or better question. If

704
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: you are going to be picking in the top five, right,

705
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: that's your best chance to get that sort of surefire guy.

706
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Speaker 3: We've seen great quarterbacks taken ten through twenty, very good wins, mahome,

707
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Speaker 3: So are you better off taking that guy? Are you

708
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: better off building a better team around him? First? I mean,

709
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I guess it depends to me. It depends upon the player.

710
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Speaker 3: I don't I think if I was going to pick

711
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Speaker 3: and there was a Joe Flacco type and I had

712
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: the fourth overall pick and I could take a Penny

713
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Speaker 3: Sewel type. I think I would take suel.

714
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Speaker 1: So in a way, that's what the Steelers are doing, Yeah,

715
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: in that the offense has been bad, let's rebuild it.

716
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: Clearly the assets are going to the offensive line. We

717
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: don't know who the quarterback will be next year. They

718
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: could use a receiver, they could you know, who knows

719
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: what's going to shuffle with the skill position players. But

720
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: the line's going to be in place. I mean maybe

721
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: for a decade, but certainly next year. You know, Harbaugh

722
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: inherits a great asset in Herbert, who's not a prospect anymore.

723
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Speaker 1: But rule number one for him was let's not get

724
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: Herbert destroyed all. Now he's hurt, but let's let's build

725
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: the line first. We can get the other positions down

726
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: the road. I hear you a couple of theories I

727
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: have though with quarterbacks, and this has changed over the years.

728
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: Is now, if I'm a GM drafting a quarterback, and

729
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: this isn't meant to be a knock on Kenny Pickett,

730
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: but I am, I'll take the guy that either is

731
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: going to be a one or two out of ten

732
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Speaker 1: or a nine or ten out of ten. I don't

733
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Speaker 1: want the five out of ten guy. I don't want

734
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: the leadoff walk. I'm swinging for the fences to no

735
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: end the problem.

736
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Speaker 4: And this is what the situation was when they Steelers

737
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Speaker 4: took Picket.

738
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Speaker 1: You don't he might not be available in that draft,

739
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: but I'm just taking extreme talents that might flop. But

740
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're strong personalities, strong work ethics, strong leaders,

741
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Speaker 1: and they have immense talents, they might be a you

742
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I'm not thinking mac Jones.

743
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Speaker 4: You know well that that leads me to the question here, guys, Okay,

744
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 4: so we I think we're all in agreement. Russell Wilson

745
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: is going to be the Steelers starter on day one.

746
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: Have you seen enough from Justin Fields in this training

747
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: camp setting? And we'll see what happens in the preseason,

748
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: but have you seen enough of him to say, let's say,

749
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Speaker 4: let's say Russell Wilson goes out to Steelers make it

750
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Speaker 4: to the playoffs, they win a game in the playoffs, Yeah, yeah,

751
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: have you seen enough from Fields for them to say,

752
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: you know what, we're gonna let Russ walk. We're gonna

753
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: go with the younger guy and sign Fields at the

754
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Speaker 4: end of the season.

755
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Speaker 1: I'm warming up to it more and more by the day.

756
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: But I remember bringing this up to you Dale a

757
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: month or two ago, like it was before even OTAs,

758
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: and it was maybe it was after OTAs, but it

759
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: certainly was well before we went to La Trobe, and

760
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: I just threw out the idea, what if you put

761
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Speaker 1: an extra year on Fields's contract right now? You get

762
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Speaker 1: them at a real discount. I mean, it wouldn't be

763
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: the thirty million dollars, let alone the fifty million dollars

764
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: that the two two was getting in these dudes, and

765
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: he might be better than two a year from now,

766
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: who knows. And you're bringing somebody back and that's not

767
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: a slap in the face to Wilson or anything. We're

768
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: just bringing this guy back at twelve million next year.

769
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a raise. And you had

770
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: a really good counterpoint. You said, maybe, but let's play

771
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: two preseason games first, you know, and now we're about

772
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: in that name. We're getting to that spot.

773
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because I think when you talk about getting

774
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: that quarterback, you know, if you build the platform of

775
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: the team around him, and you have what this year

776
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: there's are building now offensively you're not going to be

777
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: able to have a high enough pick to get that guy. Right,

778
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: so when you and this team never does no, well

779
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger.

780
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: About Tomlin, never does.

781
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even Roethlisberger was the eleventh.

782
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: Eleventh pick in a draft in which there were four

783
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: terrific quarterbacks from right, So so you got there was

784
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of luck involved there.

785
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Sure, yesterday with Burrow. It's nice to be the worst

786
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: in the league the year Borough.

787
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's right, right, Yes, you want to you

788
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: want You're not as good when it's JaMarcus Russell at

789
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: the top of the draft, that's right, that's right.

790
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: So I do think it brings up an intriguing point

791
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: regarding justin fields, because if you build a good enough team,

792
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: if you have everything in place except the most important

793
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: thing in place, which is the quarterback to win a championship,

794
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: anybody you bring in here is going to be walking

795
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: into a great pocket. Right, there's no you know, you're

796
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: not worried about a guy getting killed. You're not worried

797
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: about a guy getting his confidence destroyed. You're not worried

798
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: about all the things that can make a young quarterbacks

799
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: career unravel. The problem is you can't get the right

800
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: young quarterback in here, which leads me back to a

801
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: guy like Fields. If your evaluations, say, hey, if this

802
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: draft was held today, right, So Joey's loved that question. Well,

803
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: if we could redo the twenty twenty one draft, right,

804
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: if you could, if Justin Fields was coming out of college.

805
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Now knowing what you know now about right.

806
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: And you've got him here he is, he's coming out

807
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: as what is he twenty five something, twenty six whatever,

808
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: he's coming out of that guy right now, where would

809
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: he go in the draft?

810
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: Not?

811
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: You know his contract right?

812
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: Nothing? No, just based on how much longer you have them,

813
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: the ability, what prospect.

814
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: That's the guys that are the combine. That's right, you

815
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

816
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: I think maybe if you think, hey, I would take

817
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: this guy in the top ten or top fifteen. I

818
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: think that the scenario you guys are painting is a

819
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: very enticing scenario.

820
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: I think even if you look at that draft that year,

821
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 4: the Field's draft. Yeah, so one was Trevor Lawrence, Two

822
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: was Zach Wilson, Three was Trey Lance. Yeah, they're all

823
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: on different teams with Lawrence. Yeah, Kyle Pitts went forward

824
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase five, Jaylen Waddell six, Piney Seul seven, j C.

825
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: Horn A to Patrick's certain nine, DeVante Smith ten, and

826
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Speaker 4: then Justin Field's raft Michael Parsons went right.

827
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Speaker 1: After just yeah, right, that's a really good for first

828
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: half the first round. If you're redrafting that draft right

829
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: now and I'm just looking at.

830
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks, Fields is clearly too clearly.

831
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: And I thought we thought that at the time, we

832
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: both I couldn't believe that Fields fell to eleven. In fact,

833
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: there were times in that offseason when I was looking

834
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: at it and I'm like, I like Fields better than

835
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: Lawrence in a lot of ways.

836
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: I remember saying that once in a while.

837
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, just because of the athleticism he brings

838
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: to it. I thought he was a better passer than

839
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: what he showed in Chicago. Well, now we're starting to

840
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: see some of that on the field here. You know,

841
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, I just think I think

842
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: that door is open. I still think this is Russell

843
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: Wilson's team.

844
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's almost an entirely different conversation.

845
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: But the more we more I think about this and

846
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: the more we talk it through, if the front office

847
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: and coaching staff and ownership up of the Steelers think

848
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: there's a chance, not a one percent chance, but a

849
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: legit chance this guy can be an upper tier starter

850
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: one day. I don't think you let them go. I

851
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: think I think you add something to I mean, you

852
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: bring them back next year, no matter what. You know

853
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, And now's the time to buy. You know,

854
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: if there's any you can still draft on the first round,

855
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: you can still bring back Wilson.

856
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: You could trade him.

857
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean you could. It'd be nice to have his

858
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: rights next year. If you think he might be the guy,

859
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: if you've been with him and you're like, boy, hopefully

860
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: don't put this guy in.

861
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I.

862
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: Still think though that that to me, I probably still

863
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: let that play out to the end of the season.

864
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens this season. What if

865
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: he has to go out and.

866
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: Play, you know, you sign him to that deal, he

867
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Speaker 4: has to go out and play eight games this year

868
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: because something happens and it's not good.

869
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: It just so happens. I was having a very similar

870
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: conversation with someone in the media last night at a

871
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: local watering hole, so to speak. Go to Sharky's a

872
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: good spot and he mentioned and he very smartly said,

873
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: I know this isn't what the Steelers do, but if

874
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: it's Week eight and he's played real games, it's not

875
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: going to happen. And I know they don't do it.

876
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: He's like, happen. You might want to consider negotiating during

877
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: the season. Won't happen. Like I said the same thing.

878
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, history show is pretty strong. It's not going

879
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: to go that.

880
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: It's not even history, that's it. That's an organizational Yeah,

881
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: I was. I was here in ninety three covering that

882
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: team when they were negotiating during the season and when

883
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: Dan Roney made that decision, we're not going to do

884
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: that anymore. Yeah, because that was the first year of

885
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: free agency.

886
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: People probably like why wouldn't they'd.

887
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: Reason because when they when they would tell guys, hey,

888
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 4: we're not gonna you know, we're going to break off

889
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: negotiations here. We're not going to talk about this to

890
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: after the season. Once you started, there's negotiations in season,

891
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: guys shut down.

892
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're able to do business for the season.

893
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we'll.

894
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: Worry about the sason in season. We'll worry about the

895
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: contracts outside of the season.

896
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: So you mentioned what a Fields comes in and plays

897
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: eight games, and he's like, ooh, what if Field comes

898
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: in and plays eight games and it's seven and one?

899
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well then he goes twelve million, right, right,

900
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. But that's again, that's a good problem to have,

901
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, I say this all the time.

902
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: I'd much rather have a franchise quarterback than cap space.

903
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: Because the similar thing happened. A similar thing happened with

904
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: green Bay. Green Bay gave Love that that Bridge deal.

905
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: The weird five year option, but we don't know much

906
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: he was supposed to he was supposed to make going

907
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: into this season because they signed him to a two

908
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: year deal last year. So this season he was supposed

909
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: to make like what was it fifteen million or something,

910
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: a bump from a rookie deal, right, they gave him

911
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: a bump, but he had never really played.

912
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: And he comes home and says, I played better than that.

913
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: I want a new deal, and they end up giving

914
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: him fifty plus.

915
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: Million, which they're thrilled to do, right, They're happy to

916
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: do that problem however, but I would wind get ahead

917
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: of it and fields twelve. But they did that even

918
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: if he's a good backup. They did that with Mitch Trubisky,

919
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: though in it blew up in their face, right, Yeah,

920
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: but it's still not a huge risk. I mean, if

921
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: you're still eating money though you are you are? I

922
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: mean I see both sides, so I know the thing

923
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: won't happen during the season.

924
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: Here's the here's the thing that I would have a

925
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: question about. I mean, they're all degrees. Right. So he

926
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: comes out and he goes seven and one, and now

927
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: he wants forty million dollars in in a quarterback star

928
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: of league. Someone is liable to give him forty million dollars.

929
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: Are you really sure based on eight games.

930
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: They want to be the You've seen more of them

931
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 4: than everybody else. You've seen him here in a training

932
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 4: camp setting.

933
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: I understand that of it, but right, I understand that,

934
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: but it's still you know, there's a reason, Mike Tomlin today,

935
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: when the lights go on, it's a different game. This

936
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: is football like and that is football. Are you willing

937
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: to tie your franchise to somebody because that's what you're doing.

938
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: You're tying your franchise to somebody who you've seen. Yeah,

939
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: you've seen him in Minichamp you've seen him offseason. I

940
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: get that you've seen him for eight games. You need

941
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: to be blown away by everything else to me to

942
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: be able to do that. So you're not mitigating the

943
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: risk at all. In In Dale scenario both sides or

944
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: Matt scenario, both sides are mitigating the risk. They're both

945
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: sharing the risks. So kind of like the love thing. Yeah,

946
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: so if if Justin Fields.

947
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: But it would happen to be this preseason and it

948
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: has to happen in the next two weeks.

949
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Justin Fields doesn't get an opportunity actually a month,

950
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: they'll take that risk to get on the plane to Atlanta.

951
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson has been extremely durable throughout his career. There's

952
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: nothing to say Justin Field is going to get any time.

953
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: This year's thing.

954
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: But you still might really like him.

955
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: He might play one hundred snaps this year, right.

956
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: So less there is there is some risk mitigation involved.

957
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: And if you're Justin Fields, and let's say Russell Wilson

958
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 3: has a great year, right, so let's take it. Let's

959
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: look at it from his perspective. Russell Wilson has a

960
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: great year. Steelers are like, hey man, you're thirty six

961
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: years old. We think you've got another three or four

962
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: great years in you. We're gonna try to win a

963
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: super Bowl in that window. And I think it's like

964
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: the Rogers or Stafford deal.

965
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: He gets it, he gets it, right, sure, not the

966
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: young guy deal, but the old guy deal, right, you.

967
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: Know, so good money.

968
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: All those scenarios are possible, and they're all good.

969
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: There are all good.

970
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: Scenarios, which is why I think you wait. But but

971
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: if you're it's exactly why they're doing what they're doing now.

972
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: But if you're if your fields, then the you know,

973
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: if you if your fields and you have an unbelievable year,

974
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: you want forty million. If your fields and you don't

975
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: get on the field, twelve million sounds pretty good. Who

976
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: else is gonna work this year?

977
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Right? I mean, if he doesn't play a snap this

978
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: year and hits the open market, is he gonna make ten? Maybe? Probably?

979
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: Maybe fifteen?

980
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Didn't go backwards, right, I mean it's an interesting scenario though,

981
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: and all those things could happen, right.

982
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 4: Both we've gone through the scenarios or looked at all

983
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: the different teams that might be in the quarterback market

984
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: next year, and it's not that many no.

985
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: It's not. But things happen.

986
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: But if you're the if you're the New York Giants

987
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: and you win a couple more games and what you

988
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: thought you were going to win this year, and you

989
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 4: want to move on from Daniel Jones with Justin Fields,

990
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: look pretty good in your offense, probably sure look better

991
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: than Daniel Jones.

992
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, right, right, right, there's always I know we

993
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: went through it, and would we come up with like

994
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: six teams that are in that neighborhood and it's probably

995
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: end up being a probably I think Stafford retires and

996
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: or something, or you know, Cousins gets hurt again, or

997
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: something weird happens.

998
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: I think Russell Wilson's going to be back here, That's

999
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: what I think. I think he's gonna have a good year,

1000
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: and I think he fits in well. I think that

1001
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: he didn't fit in with the coaches. Uh, you know

1002
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: they benched him, did they benched him so that he

1003
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't get so he didn't reach certain.

1004
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: Centives, right, I mean, it wouldn't chocolate they're both back, yeah,

1005
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: or Wilson in a second round pick or you know, yeah,

1006
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: something along those lines.

1007
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: I just think that you know, with fields, so much

1008
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: of the story still has to be written at this point,

1009
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: you know, and I think to me, he he probably

1010
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: there's less pressure on it.

1011
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: There's no pressure on him. Here you go to Chicago's

1012
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: the number one pick. Such a different world.

1013
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, in Chicago, which has never had a quarter you

1014
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 4: see everything that Caleb Williams is dealing with right now.

1015
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: Oh, the playoffs and this and that.

1016
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: What happens when that doesn't you know, it doesn't work out,

1017
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: or he has a three interception game which is going

1018
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: to happen. Yeah, and all of a sudden, well, maybe

1019
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: he's not the guy, and you know, now you're dealing

1020
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: with that pressure.

1021
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: It's just different. I mean back to what we're talking

1022
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: about to start the segment. I mean, environment for these

1023
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: guys is so important. I mean, in our lifetime, how

1024
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: many good quarterbacks have the Lions, Jets, Browns and Bears have.

1025
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean, like good quarterbacks combined. I mean golf. I

1026
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: mean I'm not talking about name it. I mean talking

1027
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: about like in our lifetime. Sometimes you got to say

1028
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: maybe it's not you, it's me.

1029
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: You know, except when it's your job in the line,

1030
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 3: you're saying it's you. That's just the way.

1031
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: And listen, that's a quarterback friendly place.

1032
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: That's the way it is. And you know when you

1033
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: look at organizations and which ones are run well and

1034
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: which ones as a fan you're happy to be a

1035
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 3: fan of which ones as people that love the game,

1036
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: you can admire from afar. I mean, think about the

1037
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: Trey Lance situation for the forty nine ers. They would

1038
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: be getting excoriated anywhere else. They all those guys would

1039
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: be out on the street. You trade all that for

1040
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: Trey Lance? Then what two years later? One year later,

1041
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: two years later, you turn around and trade it for

1042
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 3: a fifth round pick? Right? I mean how I mean?

1043
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: And that's the same people. I think it was it

1044
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: one year or two years later? I can't. I guess

1045
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: it was two years. Yeah.

1046
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Injuries, I mean, that is a it's almost as bad

1047
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: as a Watson deal in a much different way.

1048
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: But you can give up. You can move on from

1049
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: that when you are you know, the Steelers invested a

1050
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: first round pick and Kenny Pickett. It didn't work. They

1051
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: moved on from it. You know, No one's.

1052
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Don't let it be an anchor, right right, other franchise,

1053
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: you not the guy if you're the forty nine ers.

1054
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: You got to the super Bowl, right, they also got

1055
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: so lucky well ivant, but who is sure? But you

1056
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: mean in getting pretty? But that puts them. But but

1057
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: you know, uh, you could also say they got good

1058
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: because you know they they drafted Tree Lance and they

1059
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: drafted Rock Party, right, so they made one mistake and

1060
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: they were read in the other one. I'm sure they'll say, hey,

1061
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: that was good and a little lucky by us to

1062
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: get that guy. So I just think that those organizations

1063
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: that can that can move on from that. I don't

1064
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: think most organizations can move on from I'm not just

1065
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: willing to do so. I don't think the Giants can

1066
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: move on from Daniel Jones. If you're the general manager

1067
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: and you've given them all that money, how do you

1068
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: go to your owner and say, uh, yeah, that's sixty

1069
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: million dollars that you just set fire to. Don't worry,

1070
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: I'll get you another one.

1071
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you the guy right?

1072
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1073
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: How many people get to draft two quarterbas it is?

1074
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: No, it is very very difficult to be able to

1075
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: do absolutely good good.

1076
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Speaker 4: The conversation there guys, he is Rob King, that's Matt Williams,

1077
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Speaker 4: and I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

1078
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1079
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Speaker 4: camp here at Saint Fincent College, a Steeler's just wrapped

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Speaker 4: up their practice for the day a little bit ago.

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Speaker 4: We are on here until three o'clock, taking you through

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Speaker 4: the end of the day here at Saint Fincent College

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Speaker 4: here on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We'll

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00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold SNR. Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: Hey, Steeler Fan jin Chats Challenges are back this week.

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00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: It's all about the.

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00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: First preseason game featuring a football autograph by first round

1091
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: draft pick Troy Fatanu. Answer triviaan predictive this week and

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00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: compete against Dealer's Nation for a chance to win that

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00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: autograph football the trivia question today, we got two of

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00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: them here.

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Speaker 1: I never get these right.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Rob, what.

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Speaker 4: Do we got college career who played more games? Troy

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00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: Fatanu or Broderick Jones?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's pretty easy. Jones, it was

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Speaker 1: like a year and a half.

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Speaker 3: Starter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, We'll have some more of those coming up here.

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Speaker 1: But you can win that autograph.

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Speaker 3: Did I win?

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00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: You win an autograph football by Toorg Patano if you

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Speaker 4: are there, if you answer it correctly and are the

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Speaker 4: one chosen to win, said Broka.

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Speaker 1: And another smoothie tomorrow you get and on your deathbed

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Speaker 1: you received consciousness.

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Speaker 3: You know, I may you know, I'm I'm still uh

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Speaker 3: still kind of suss things out. So what's happened here

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Speaker 3: in defense of myself is the practices are going just

1113
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Speaker 3: a little bit later and then I'm doing an interview

1114
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Speaker 3: for uh the Steelers after practice, and so at the

1115
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: beginning it was like to have lunch, you know. Now

1116
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: it's like, well, I haven't even made the radio show

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00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: by the time, I think I was three minutes late.

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Speaker 1: Today you were watching it down there. You're interviewing calls in.

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00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: Calvin, Austin. So you know, I'm a member of the media.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to miss a free meal. It's just

1121
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: how it comes with the territory. That's just part of

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00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: the deal. It's a requirement or you have to turn

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00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: in your media card. So so these guys have gotten

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00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 3: me a smoothie. But I just learned it. Wes leaves

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: here and goes over there because Wes is worked all morning.

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Speaker 1: He's sucking behind us, just Consico.

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00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: So Wes could be a West, could be a mule.

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Speaker 1: He could be a good asset.

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Speaker 3: I could actually I could kind of double. Yeah, I

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00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: could stager get two smoothies. I could get a smoothie

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Speaker 3: and a Bison Burger.

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Speaker 1: They always have Bisenberger's over there by the way, folks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you Could's a nice go to.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Interesting that the question today was about and he's Rob King.

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00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: That's Matt Williamson and Dale Lallie. This is the Drive

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 4: on Steelers Nation Radio in Fox Sports Pittsburgh, but mentions

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00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 4: Troy Fatanu and Broderick Jones. The last two days, guys,

1139
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: we've seen Troy Fatanu running with the first the first

1140
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Speaker 4: team at right tackle, and we've seen Broderick Jones splitting

1141
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: some time on the first team with left tackle with

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00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 4: with Dan Moore junior, but mostly running second team.

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00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't quite get that part. I understand putting Fatanu

1144
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: as basically your almost full time starting right tackle. I

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00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: thought I saw one series with Broderick back on the

1146
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: right to day. Maybe I was wrong, but I think

1147
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: Broderick we know is starting somewhere right well, but I

1148
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: I do think as well that you want to let

1149
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: him ease it because he hadn't done it as much.

1150
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just it, you know, just kind of let him.

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00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: He's into playing those I don't want to put you

1152
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: out there against Alex high Smith or you know whoever

1153
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: right out.

1154
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 3: Of the gate.

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Speaker 1: I do think the preseason game will be really interesting

1156
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: with that, but it wouldn't blow me. Wolf just walked

1157
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: into the Bison burger.

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Speaker 3: Wolf was your? Wolf was your?

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: He just said he wanted a Bison burger.

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00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: No, no, did the ESPU that did that is spare b.

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00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: There were actually three of them in there when he

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Speaker 4: started to walk over.

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Speaker 1: The other two didn't make it. That was amazing.

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00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: That's my partner. Man, Oh good man, go you go?

1165
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: Or I just lost the booth to go man?

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: You know uh that was like that was like a

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00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: vulcan mind meld there. You just started sending out the

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00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: signals and Wolf brings you.

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00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: A Bison Burgers. Is going to walk in with one,

1170
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: and Starts is gonna walk in with one.

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00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: So we will get we'll get on. We'll get on

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Speaker 3: to uh football talk. Because there was some football.

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00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: Time that I lost a line stuff.

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Speaker 3: But so Wolf and I did high school football, know

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00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: for like ten years, and we when we stopped doing

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00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: those games, I think you.

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Speaker 1: Lost twenty pounds twenty pounds.

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00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: And every school lost like fifty dollars like that was

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: going to the concession stand because Wolf and I would

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00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: go lay waste to the concession stands uh. And so

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Speaker 3: I think we have a food esp thing going there.

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Speaker 1: You go.

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00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: So we're got that, we're getting our mojo back together.

1184
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Speaker 3: The emogination is Wolf.

1185
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 4: Like Matt and I went to dinner last night and

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Speaker 4: Wolf and Starks are sitting there table and I'm looking

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00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: at and I take it. I got my fish and

1188
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: you know, it was a crab stuffed flounder or something

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Speaker 4: like that, and some vegetables and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: And look us sit down and Wolf's got the fish

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Speaker 1: and the vegetables in.

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Speaker 3: Front of them.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, Wolf, you're eating healthy because yeah, the

1194
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: fish was a little dry, but you know, the crab,

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Speaker 4: the crab felling was really good. And then Matt comes

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00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 4: back with this big steak and I saw Wolf's eyes

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00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: light up. Where'd you get that at?

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Speaker 1: I missed that the first time, and.

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Speaker 4: Next thing you know, he and Starks are both gone.

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Speaker 4: They're over they come back of these this huge Porterhouse steak.

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Speaker 4: He's over there cutting his steak nicely, little pieces off

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Speaker 4: like a human.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 4: Like I look over, they've got the bone in hand.

1205
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 4: They're just gnawing at the bone.

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Speaker 1: It's like, already God full Fred Flintstone, I love it.

1207
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Speaker 1: I used to host a Wednesday night show. I still do,

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Speaker 1: but Wolf doesn't do it anymore. It's Ben's and I

1209
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Speaker 1: and Wolf, and now we do it with Tom instead

1210
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: of Wolf. But it was at a local restaurant. You

1211
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Speaker 1: could eat whatever you want, and we always always took

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00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: dessert tome to the family. I mean what he used

1213
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: to do to ribs. There was just criminals. Criminal criminal

1214
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: Because you only get like five minute break between you

1215
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: can't eat on the air.

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Speaker 3: Really, I mean, I might be putting that to the test.

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: So you put on a show.

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Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, again, he was another guy.

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Speaker 1: He's good.

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00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: But Tom signaled out a couple, Uh, singled out. I

1221
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: keep saying signaled out, singled out a couple of young guys.

1222
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Speaker 3: And we talked about Peyton Wilson before. Tana was one

1223
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: of those that he just said he has elevated his

1224
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 3: game throughout the course of camp and so he's deserve

1225
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: those opportunities because he was sort of asked in tandem,

1226
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: what about Zach Frazer, Well, Zach's still working his way in,

1227
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 3: but Foutanu is is earning those reps with the first team.

1228
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: And you're right, it is interesting that is Broderick Jones

1229
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: starting if he's if he's is broder Jones starting at

1230
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: right tackle if he's not starting at left?

1231
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: Well, and and and Tomlin said he's gonna going to

1232
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 4: end up playing both positions in the game on.

1233
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: Friday, Jones will, yeah, okay, he's gonna play left and right.

1234
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: Who do we think will be the starting right tackle?

1235
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Based on what I've seen this week, I think it's

1236
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna be Fatona. The last two days are paintelling.

1237
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: I thought, Yeah, as you lead into the game, I think,

1238
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 4: you know, we'll have a pretty good idea tomorrow.

1239
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't freak out folks if Jones doesn't start

1240
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: the game period. No, No, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like,

1241
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: I think your point is strong that maybe we're not

1242
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna make you, you know, get beat playing left side

1243
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 1: after you played all this right side, do a little,

1244
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: do a little, a little.

1245
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: Easier way into it. And what I think is gonna happen.

1246
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 4: We know the first team is gonna be out there,

1247
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: as we said, like ten plays or two drives, whatever

1248
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: it is. Fatan who's not coming out of the game.

1249
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: He's gonna stay in there.

1250
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1251
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: And then and then Broderick Jones probably flips over to

1252
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, from he goes into the left side for

1253
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: Dan Moore and then maybe he let Broderick go you know,

1254
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: play a few snaps. He probably plays a ton because

1255
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: his backup would be Jones. Yeah, I mean, like the

1256
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: other right tackle options. I'm sure Cook can do it,

1257
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 1: but he's mostly been left more is only left.

1258
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: And as the question just that, you know, we forget

1259
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: Broderick Jones only played fifteen college games.

1260
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, right, that's interesting, not that much different

1261
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: than them's coming up. There really isn't a lot of

1262
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: difference there.

1263
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: So you know, he might need a little bit more

1264
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: play time, but he's pretty good, typical second year guy.

1265
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in protection.

1266
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, I think and you know, maybe

1267
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 4: they're looking at the Texans as well on going Okay,

1268
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: well this is going to be a pretty good test

1269
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: because they've got some good young pass rushers.

1270
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: They got Daniel Hunter in the offseason. Will Anderson play, Yeah,

1271
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I think Rob, I think you mentioned this yesterday. They

1272
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: are playing their story. They're gonna play starters including Stroud

1273
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: and Hunter and Daggs.

1274
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't heard about.

1275
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have a six man seven man list

1276
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: of not star players.

1277
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: Is Danil Hunter gonna play? And I don't know about that.

1278
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: I don't know about.

1279
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: They're going to.

1280
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 3: But I mean, the Stealers are playing your starters minus

1281
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: six or seven of their starters, including their starting quarterback

1282
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: right and they're all pro defens attack.

1283
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: But they're in a different spot and than Houston.

1284
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: Houston's already played a game, right yeah, where they got

1285
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: to see a lot of the young guys at least

1286
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 4: for three quarters until the game got called.

1287
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: Maybe get ten snaps of Hunter and Anderson or you

1288
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: know the same type of deal.

1289
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: Alright, I'm sure you guys watch that game. What a

1290
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: drop off that game was. And that's what Mike Tomlin

1291
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: doesn't want to see in Jamiico Ryans doesn't want to

1292
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: see with Houston either. Really clean first half of playing

1293
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: with mostly the two's and then it just got into

1294
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: a slop fest. I think weather it might have had

1295
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: something to do with that, Yeah, jumping off sides and

1296
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: penalties and all kinds of And that's another thing. Mike

1297
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 3: Toman doesn't want to see the pre snap stuff.

1298
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: Do we have a show tomorrow, by the way, yes, yes,

1299
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the last one for a bit.

1300
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so there is right, So, I I know

1301
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: the day the day before is the walk through, but

1302
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: tomorrow will be a normal tow's a normal practice yet, right?

1303
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: So are we gonna save our who we're really looking

1304
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: forward to seeing the game? Yeah, we're gonna say that conversation.

1305
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: Here's the thing though, guys, you start looking at the

1306
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: at the forecast upcoming here Friday, looks like it's going

1307
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: to be sloppy. Really, Yeah, we're gonna get some of

1308
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: the fallout from the hurricane. It should hit Pennsylvania sometime Friday.

1309
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's not just a complete slop fest.

1310
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I would be much more judicious with

1311
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: my playing time. That might affect who you you know,

1312
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: who you put out there. Yeah, that's interesting. Brought back

1313
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: to something we were talking about, the sloppiness of preseason.

1314
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, we we have a hyper focus on this team,

1315
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: of course, but I have a hard time believing that

1316
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: many teams in the league have a number two offensive

1317
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: line like this one. And I think a lot of

1318
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: small sloppiness in the preseason comes from you got a

1319
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: third string guard or the second string tackle and a

1320
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: center that shouldn't be in the game, and they've never

1321
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: played together, you know. Like, I think the line number

1322
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: two should be really good for the Steelers.

1323
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: I agree, And I think that whoever the eleventh offensive

1324
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: lineman is gonna be the guy who presumably he's gonna

1325
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: be at a job out of a job, is gonna

1326
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: be a pretty good player too. I mean, I think

1327
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: they have pretty dark, good depth on this. I mean,

1328
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: is McCollum right now the eleventh.

1329
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: I think they keep nine and there's ten really good ones.

1330
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, you know, I like McCollum.

1331
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's a you know, I mean, he's been

1332
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: around a little bit.

1333
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: Ye, That's that's a nice option to have, and you know,

1334
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: barring injury, I think there's a lot of interesting Again,

1335
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 3: we'll talk more about this tomorrow again, but I think

1336
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: the running back situation is is interesting. A lot of

1337
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: kind Now, a lot of teams had that. So for example,

1338
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna play They're gonna play Houston. How many running

1339
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: backs is Houston possibly gonna keep? Well, oh, they've got

1340
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: their top three are pretty clear mixing?

1341
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: Uh is pierceitut here?

1342
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: I think is still the two and three? Well that

1343
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: you have camp akers.

1344
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: God bless you by the way, Yeah, you're working on

1345
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: that one.

1346
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: You spent a fourth round pick on a guy named

1347
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 3: Juir Jordan, So, uh is he gonna be on the team?

1348
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 3: Fourth round pick? You don't like to cut those.

1349
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 4: Guys burgeting that line? Okaboom, I can't even pronounce it.

1350
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it with the front of the mirror.

1351
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: There you go. So I think every team has got

1352
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: you know, but again more like you see your own

1353
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: team more closely. But I do think you bring up

1354
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 3: a good point. I think the place that it sticks

1355
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: out most to me where you're like, wow, is every

1356
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: team that's good on the offensive line?

1357
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: Does every team have this kind of No, they're not.

1358
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: Defensive line depth. They've got some good D line.

1359
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: Depth and a really important GM job. But like, if

1360
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: you're going to draft a fourth round quarterback. You can't

1361
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: put them in the preseas and games behind lineman to

1362
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: camp block, like, you have no way of evaluating them,

1363
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then therefore you can't

1364
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: evaluate your wide receivers, can't evaluate your running backs. I mean,

1365
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: first round guys are different seventh round guys. Peop don't

1366
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: care as much about it. If you're gonna invest, like

1367
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: a third or fourth round pick in a quarterback, you

1368
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: at least need to put him in preseason games where

1369
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: he can you know, not get destroyed.

1370
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know that's one of the tough parts

1371
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: about evaluating young players.

1372
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: In the third and fourth quarters of these preseason games.

1373
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: Oftentimes you're like.

1374
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Speaker 4: Who are they out there with? Yeah, you know, maybe

1375
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: you like the guy you know is Peyton. Peyton Wilson

1376
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: might get blocked the entire like, they might get alignment

1377
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 4: up on him the entire game in the second who knows,

1378
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 4: but he would be my front runner to lead to

1379
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 4: Steelers and specially in tackles in the preseason.

1380
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: Aversely, there's always a guy that you're like, Wow, that

1381
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: guy looks really good and he's kind of a two

1382
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: point five playing against the threes, you know, the fourth

1383
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: guy in the roster, and he looks great.

1384
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: He looks right, and he comes to practice of government.

1385
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, where was he at? That's right, that's right.

1386
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: It's not as easy to evaluate your thing. Preseason is

1387
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: really valuable, but you really have to keep it in

1388
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: context too, you know, isolate the player. Did he run

1389
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: the right route the way I want him to do,

1390
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: with the footwork you did, whether it gets football or not,

1391
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: they can throw in those seats, you know.

1392
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 3: So when you're scouting as part of an organization and

1393
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 3: you get into the preseason and I know, like you know,

1394
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: Mark Brunner was out here and they're doing a lot

1395
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: of self scouting during this portion, certainly of.

1396
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: The scouts will start leaving about now.

1397
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 3: That's what I'm wondering now. They're they're off to see

1398
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: other teams now and see if there's anybody out there

1399
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: that they're interested in.

1400
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how it works, I think still, and I'm

1401
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: almost certain is this is one of the few times

1402
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: of the year that you're your pro scouts are always

1403
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: in house, but your college scouts. If you're the Midwest scout,

1404
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: you live in the Midwest. If you're you know, if

1405
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: you're Pack ten guy, you live in Oregon or wherever

1406
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: you want. So this is one of the few times

1407
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: that they are with the team for an extended stretch.

1408
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: And the draft is another you know, of course, but

1409
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: you use those college scouts as a resource before college starts.

1410
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: Like for example, we would have one of our college

1411
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: scouts was in charge of self scouting our O line.

1412
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: We just give everybody a position. I remember I got

1413
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: the tight ends that year I was new, So I

1414
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: mean I had four guys to evaluate, not twelve. So

1415
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: they write reports on your team, you know, the team

1416
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: that employs them. And then right about now they're not

1417
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: going back to Oregon in Oklahoma and checking out those programs.

1418
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: They're going to preseason games and you give them a

1419
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: list of like ten guys, and if you go to

1420
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: Bears Eagles, it's not Jalen Hurts. I mean, it's these

1421
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: ten guys might get cut and we might want them,

1422
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, so please write them up, tell me every

1423
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: special team they're on, and so you use them for

1424
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: that too, you know, And then they give you they

1425
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: file those reports and some of those guys a cut,

1426
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: some don't, and then they go do their college stuff.

1427
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: I think that that's such a good point. It's not

1428
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: like these guys are leaving and you know Van Morrison

1429
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 3: going into the Mystic. You know, we're just gonna look

1430
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: for guys and we don't know who they are, you know.

1431
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: So I've always thought that to me, one of probably

1432
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: my favorite part of Mike Tomlin's weekly press conference is

1433
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 3: when he starts running down the other team and you

1434
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: get an indication of just how into it he is,

1435
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: just how much he loves football. We're looking at that

1436
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 3: guy coming out of South Alabama. We were down at

1437
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: his pro day and you know, oh this guy, we

1438
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 3: loved him and the you know, but he knows so

1439
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: much and that you know, goes out of the scouts

1440
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 3: and everybody else. So there is a list. It's not

1441
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 3: just hey let's let's throw a dart against the board

1442
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: and hey, I saw a guy in the third practice

1443
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: or whatever, and you know he flashed on field number

1444
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: three or No. These guys have right, they're working from

1445
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 3: a base. They're working for now. I'm assuming that there's also.

1446
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned that the Texans running backs, well they they

1447
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: might cut a good one. So let's pay attention to

1448
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: their running backs. They probably better than our third guy.

1449
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Or fourth guy whatever, you know, and they're always looking

1450
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: for that kind of stuff.

1451
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose there's always the possibility. And we always

1452
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 3: hear this story, you know, the stories of when somebody

1453
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: goes to scout one player and they wind up with

1454
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: another player. Right, So you have to you have to

1455
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: leave your eyes open to hey, do we have I

1456
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 3: got my ten guys here, but do we have something

1457
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: on number seventy four?

1458
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: Because he looks, yeah, yeah, there's a story at pitt

1459
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: Before I got there, Tory Cox was who ended up

1460
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: going to the Pros and a really good career, and

1461
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: he was a good pit corner, was committed to the

1462
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: Panthers and they were just down there formality, we're gonna

1463
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: watch his last game, and this Antonio Bryant guy was

1464
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: catching passes on the team. They no clue who he was.

1465
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: They one scholarship to give, let's give it to him.

1466
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: He went to Bolitenkoff, you know what I mean.

1467
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 4: I mean that was the same thing, you know, cal

1468
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 4: you this is ten twelve years ago. Had a guy

1469
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 4: who was a transfer I believe from Oregon was an

1470
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, and so all the NFL scouts are going

1471
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 4: in to see him. He ran into some stuff at

1472
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 4: Oregon in Claringly, I think I think he had a boating.

1473
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: While under the influence. Oh wow, that's when you don't

1474
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: hear all that often. So anyways, he transfers to CALU.

1475
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 4: He's playing, he's a good player for them, and the

1476
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: scouts start coming in and they discover this this other

1477
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 4: lineman at CALU. They're like, oh, that guy's pretty good too,

1478
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 4: Eric Cush. He ends up playing in the league for

1479
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 4: ten years. The other guy had never made it and

1480
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 4: he lasted for a couple years in the league. Eric

1481
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: Cush plays ten years because he got discovered by teams

1482
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 4: coming out to look at.

1483
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: That guy, and the O line coach might be like,

1484
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: you might want to look at the center too. Yeah,

1485
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: he's not bad.

1486
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: He's not bad.

1487
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, that happens a lot.

1488
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: By the way, For as much as I have so

1489
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: much respect for scouts, I mean, it is so difficult

1490
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: to take a person out of an environment. So uh,

1491
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: you know, on that team that Antonio Briant played on,

1492
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: they had like six or seven.

1493
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: Division Miami Northwestern. I mean, they're just so often they

1494
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: have more than that.

1495
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So is that running back really good or could

1496
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: Grandma Moses with her paint brush in hand run behind

1497
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 3: that line?

1498
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: Well, that was the argument.

1499
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: When I talked to Jalen Warrens high school coach, that

1500
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: was the argument. Because all five of his offensive linemen

1501
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 4: his junior year went d one, all five of them.

1502
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 4: So scouts were looking at him. The college scouts came in,

1503
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 4: they looked at him. They said, because he had over

1504
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 4: two thousand yards rushing that season. And they said, well,

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Speaker 4: he's a he's a system back, you know, he's he's

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Speaker 4: getting two thousand dollars because these guys are all good.

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 4: Well the next year they come in, the offensive line's

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: all new, and he rushes for two thousand yards again,

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 4: and still Utah State's the only place that that's uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, recruiting.

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Speaker 3: So I had a chance just to circle back one

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 3: more time to Matt's store, had a chance to ask

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Speaker 3: Walt Harris about Antonio Bryant, you know, because he was

1514
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 3: a one star recruit. They didn't that's it. You can't

1515
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: get any lower than that.

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Speaker 1: No star. Their guys are no stars. Okay, boys, that

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Speaker 1: would be.

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: Usright, okay, all right, okay, I got you out.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know he was can't get long.

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Speaker 3: So I asked, well, I said, when did you know

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 3: he was going to be good? When did you know?

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: Wow?

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 3: We really first practice?

1524
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: He said, first practice.

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's it is so difficult the scout.

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: It's why I say, you know, scouts go out there

1527
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: with their top ten and it's their job to get

1528
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 3: it right right. It's their job to get it right.

1529
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: But every once in a while, somebody mature, is late,

1530
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. Maybe he had a

1531
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 3: foot injury that nobody knew about, what have you. There's

1532
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,440
Speaker 3: always room for that Antonio O'Brien or that great player.

1533
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: Out there, and you have to be open to saying,

1534
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong on this guy, or we found diamond

1535
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: in the rough and just to rewind a couple of minutes.

1536
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: But one thing I was talking about with the college

1537
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: scouts too, it's a challenge for the scouting department to

1538
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: have your college scouts know NFL talent, Like, Okay, even

1539
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: if I watch if it's draft we and I'm in

1540
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: charge of the offensive tackles and I watched twenty of them,

1541
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: well I better watch mine too. Are they better than

1542
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: these guys or what plays in the league you know

1543
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: to have them here a training camp. I'm sure those

1544
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: guys that's been ninety percent of their time at college

1545
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: campuses are like, these guys are so much better than Oregon,

1546
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: Bama and everyone, you know.

1547
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: I always wondered about that when a guy goes from

1548
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: level to level in college. So I had a friend

1549
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: of mine who was an assistant coach at Syracuse, and

1550
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: I was like, why don't you just go to the

1551
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: University of Rochester coach there, They'll never fire you. You

1552
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: make a good living, you can raise your family there,

1553
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 3: you know whatever.

1554
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: Kids will never move from to school.

1555
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, the same school district. You know you're not

1556
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: you know, you're a Division one assistant.

1557
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, because he's a little he's overqualified for that.

1558
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: You're right right, yes, and smart guy. He probably could

1559
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: have gotten that job, a job white Thattt and Harpy.

1560
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 3: Then I think to myself, well, what would recruiting for

1561
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 3: Syracuse And at the time they had like Tobucky Joan

1562
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 3: and Donovan McNabb.

1563
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 1: And Mary Harrison.

1564
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they had all kinds of high level Division

1565
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: one and pro players. I mean, how would you how

1566
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: would you identify the Division three player that that's going

1567
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 3: to play for you. I mean, how anybody below a

1568
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 3: certain level, you'd be like what in the world. And

1569
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 3: that's why I just have so much respect for these

1570
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 3: guys to come in and be able to find the

1571
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 3: right guy and you better get them. And they bet

1572
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 3: at the right character and they've been at the right ability,

1573
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: and you need all that stuff to build a successful

1574
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 3: program at the college level and of course at the

1575
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: NFL level as well.

1576
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: The season before I got hired by Pitt, I donated

1577
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: a year at Dukane and quickly realized, like, you can't

1578
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: even be proactive in recruiting, because if you go to

1579
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: that two star recruit, said Ducaine really likes She's like,

1580
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to pit man, you know, like I don't

1581
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Guys, they come crawling back

1582
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: to you. You know. In a lot of ways, we

1583
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: just keep up communication, send a mail back.

1584
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: Then Well that's that's the thing, because if you don't

1585
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 3: keep up communications, because then what happened to that guy

1586
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 3: who has a successful girl. Well they were they were

1587
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: with me from the beginning. Yeah, with me, from the beginning.

1588
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: I might first recruited, I might know and you might

1589
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 1: know he's not going to Ohio State. But he doesn't

1590
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: know it yet, that's right.

1591
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, but yeah, so we'll see what happens. Uh,

1592
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: you know with this, Uh, we got one more practice

1593
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 4: before the game on Friday night and should be fun.

1594
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: Today it was a good practice by the way, Yeah,

1595
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: spirited and physical and.

1596
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would expect tomorrow's practice to be a

1597
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 4: little less physical.

1598
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: I would think you that would back right.

1599
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: But yes, with a game coming on the next night,

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01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 4: I would expect tomorrow to be more like a walk through.

1601
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: Okay, unpadded. Yeah, get your assignments right, Yeah, you know

1602
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, more individual.

1603
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but still here, dude, we have a good good stuff. Yeah,

1604
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 4: but guys that that's going to do it for our

1605
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,080
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Speaker 4: can visit online at shop dot Steelers dot com. No

1612
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: nothing new on the Brandon Ayuk uh front. At this point,

1613
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 4: that's people reporting all kinds of stuff right now, and

1614
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 4: you just keep throwing stuff out there. At some point

1615
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 4: you're either going to be right or wrong. It is

1616
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: what it is.

1617
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: Uh.

1618
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: But anyways, that's going to do it for our show today.

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Speaker 3: Guys, great, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, always, there's always a lot of fun here with

1622
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Speaker 4: Robin Matt for my partners, Matt Williamson, Rob King for

1623
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 4: Justin Miller back on site keeping us on the air.

1624
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Speaker 3: I am Dale, Lolly.

1625
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