1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian. Every once in a while you need your 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: second opinion, even me, right, and you've just got in 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: a weird look. I always say, I'm not the smartest 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: mechanic in the world. I just know who to talk 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: to them. You have done in that Car Doctor. You 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: have which so much fun on this radio show. We 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: really do you know? Somebody said to me last week. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, I like to listen to you guys, because 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: especially when you guys talk together, because you sound like 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: they're having fun and you joke around, and boy, if 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: they can only see what happens behind the scene. Welcome 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: call in the garage to orders are open. But I 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: am here to take your call at eight five five 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: five six, and now he running. Hey, welcome board and 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Indy and at your service, and uh, another busy hour 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: of calls lined up, I see, So let's uh, let's um, 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: let's go over and talk to Rick in Kentucky two 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: thousand hand to see r V and see what's going 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: on here. Rick, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: can I help? Uh? How Iran? How are you doing? 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm big finding your show. I've got a two thousand 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: hand to see r V that chokes out when you 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: turn the air conditioning on. Uh. The tachometer gage reads 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: about four hundred and fifty on the RPM. I put 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: the scanner to it and it's showing the RPMs at 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: about seven thirty three, so there's a split there. I 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: changed out the idle air control valve and it didn't 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: fix it, but it makes a little bit better and 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the scanner doesn't show any fault codes and the real 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: time data looks like it's about normal as far as 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: I can tell, but I'm not an expert on it. 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I took it to two Honda dealerships in the local 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: area to have them troubleshooted, and both of them, um 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: uh said that it's it's normal for those to do 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: that and it's a common problem, and they couldn't fix it. 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: One of them adjusted the idle the throttle body idle 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: adjustment up to keep it from dying installing, But now 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: choosing a lot more fuel. Yeah, no, you don't want 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: to do that, you know. So here I'm gonna tell 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: you how to reset that, okay, so you don't have 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: to go back to them. I think they're wrong for 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: doing that. Um, you know, basically, And and let's let's 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: start from the beginning. How about we take the throttle 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: body off. Can you? Can you take the throttle body 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: of if you've got mechanical ability, Rick, I just I 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: don't say that as a dig I'm just curious to 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: know what i'm working with, who I'm working with. Can 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: you can you take the throttle body off and clean 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: it if I tell you to? Okay, So let's let's 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: take the throttle body off. Let's just make sure both 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: sides of the plate are clean, all right, and then 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: you want to set that minimum screw so that you 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: know right now, um, they've got to crank too far? 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Open all right, back the back that minimum stop off 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: until the plate just touches the housing and then open 60 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: it just a crack, all right, You don't you don't 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: want the plate to touch the housing. The idea is 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: that there's a minimum idel stop, a hard stop, and 63 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: then the idle air control motor should be able to 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: handle the load and deal with it all right, So 65 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: let's let's get that back to work in normal. Now, 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: when you say you turn on the air conditioning and 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the engine almost stalls, is it that the you'll do 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: this at idle, just sitting there? No, So when does 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: this happens? It seems to be idling low, But and 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: then when you turn the A C on it wants 71 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: to kind of choke out a little bit and almost die. Okay, 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: but but it's it's doing this while you're sitting at idle. 73 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: If you're sitting at a traffic lighter in the driveway 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: and you turn the A C on, it'll start to 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: choke out and die, right, But but it won't do 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: it driving down the road. You're doing forty and you 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: don't notice it until now when you if you turn 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: it on. If you're doing forty miles an hour driving 79 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: down the road and you turn the A C on 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the next stop sign you get to, will the engine 81 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: struggle there as well? No, So it's only when you 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: turn the A C on sitting at a traffic lighter 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: stop sign, or and let me finish the question, or 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: if you pull up to a traffic light, it's Okay, 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: the a C cycles off because it's cold and off 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: for pressure drops, and then when the a C comes 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: back on, sitting at that stop sign, it will start 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: to chug and load up again. Exactly right. Okay, do 89 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: you have do you have coolant hoses going to the 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: idle air control valve? Are they flowing coolant? Well? I 91 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: don't know, have any way to check that started up? This? 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Can this disconnect? Disconnect the hoses and disconnect the hoses 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: and see if cooling comes out of one of them. 94 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: Make sure those hoses aren't clogged if it doesn't circulate coolant. 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: All right, This problem happens when it's warm, right, not 96 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: when it's cold. Right, yes, right, If this problem only 97 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: happens when it's warm, because when it's cold, it's got 98 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: a faster idle. Correct. So if those hoses don't flow coolant, 99 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: it can compromise how that idle valve reacts and works 100 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: and can cause this condition. Okay, Now, next thing, do 101 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: you have a scan tool? Did you look at fuel trim? Yes, sir, 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: good boy, do you remember what it was? I've got 103 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the spects for laying here in the book. I wrote 104 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: them down if I can, if you're interested in what 105 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: you have? Okay, let me find it here. Um long 106 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: f T I is that one of them long term 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: fuel trim? Yeah? Point eight nine zero? All right? Zo 108 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: are they giving it to us in percentage? Are they 109 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: giving it to us? This is O B D two 110 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: all right, So they're splitting the hair. So it's about it. 111 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: It's about one percent long term fuel trim. What's short term? Six? Yeah? 112 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: So fuel trim is good? Alright. I don't I don't 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: have a fuel trim issue here. All right. So and 114 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you're taking those readings where and idle cruising down the 115 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: road or what? And I don't once it's swarmed up, 116 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: all right, take a look at take a look at 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: fuel trim going down the road, just for giggles, you know, 118 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Well you'll typically see an older car like this long 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: term fuel trim. Oh you'll see you'll see a creep up, 120 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, and scare me, short term might hit fIF 121 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: if I start running more than that, I'm I'm gonna 122 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: start to think about carbon deposit issues possibly up upper 123 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: end carbonization needed that kind of thing, all right? Now, 124 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: where would that be? Would that be like cleaning the 125 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: intake manifold? Um? That would be cleaning the intake cleaning 126 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: and the throttle plates clean. Right, you said you cleaned it. Well, 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I cleaned what I could access without disassembling it. So 128 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, now we're going to clean the backside of 129 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: it and see how dirty it is. But it would 130 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: also be um, you know, it wouldn't hurt. How many 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: miles were on this car two years old, hundred thous 132 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: and it's my wife's car and she drives slow and 133 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: she drives short distances, right, and we gotta fix this 134 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: because if mama ain't happy, then Rick's not going to 135 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: be happy. Well, the gas mileg is it used to 136 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: get good gas milege and now we're using we're losing 137 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: about a week per tank. So, yeah, you have a 138 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: local Oraillyotor parts by you. Yeah, you know if you've 139 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: got an O'raillyoto parts by you, or go out online 140 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: to rallyota dot com see if you can get yourself 141 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: one of the Barriman fuel system cleaning kits. Barriman makes 142 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: a fuel injector cleaner kit. It's don't don't don't take 143 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: offense at the way I'm gonna say this, but it's 144 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of idiot proof. It's real simple to use, and 145 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: you know it's it's something you can do in the driveway. 146 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: Just follow the directions and you're gonna a fuel system 147 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: cleaner through the air and take duct and it will 148 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: help decarbonize the valves and clean the intake passage all 149 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: the way down. I mean, it's just good normal maintenance, 150 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: especially on something this age and this mileage. And you 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: know Mama, Mama takes short trips all the place, all right. 152 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: And while it may not solve all of this problem 153 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: or any of this problem, it will likely deliver better 154 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: fuel economy. And it's just a good maintenance thing to do. 155 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: So second point of contention, take your scan tool. Take 156 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: a look at cooling temperature. Is cool and tem it's 157 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: cooling temperature coming up to spec what's cooling temperature? When 158 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: you think this car is fully warmed up better than 159 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking for it right now? Down to my list 160 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: of notes. You know, I write my own notes and 161 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: I can't read them. Um, the second you could be 162 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: a doctor. Temperature was about Yeah, you're in the game. Okay. 163 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I think the thermostats a seventy nine degrees on that car, 164 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: all right, So you're in the game. Um, you know 165 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: number one. Number two, I think the Honda dealer is crazy. 166 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe Honda would manufacture a vehicle and leave 167 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: it out there, and you know this is normal for them, 168 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: that the vehicle doesn't work right. How much bad press 169 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: do you think they would get? Right? So I would 170 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: take a look at those cool that you know, I 171 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: would take a look at the cooling hoses. Listen, I'll 172 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: never forget about two years ago, we have a customer 173 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: with an older Buick that she was taking to the 174 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: old car guru in the area and she she ended 175 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: up on my doorstep because the guy told her that, 176 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, the car was hesitating. And the guy told 177 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: her that, well, General Motors made bad fuel injection this year. 178 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: And I said, so you're telling me General Motors, a 179 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: major corporation in this country, in the world, made all 180 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: bad fuel injections for model year and everybody had to 181 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: live with hesitation installing. And she said, well that's what 182 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: he told me. Okay, bring it in. I remember this problem. 183 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: It was a ds V one, wasn't with the delay valve. 184 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: You put it the lay valve in the e g 185 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: R host. At the lay the e g R valve 186 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: opening up by a second and a half solved the problem. 187 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: She looked at me like I was crazy. You know, 188 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: you gotta think in terms of the manufacturer when somebody says, hey, 189 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: they're all like that, They're not all like that. There's 190 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: a solution to this, we just haven't found it yet. 191 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Go do those things. Go ahead. They just don't know 192 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: how to fix it, and so they just act. They 193 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: tell you it's normal. Then you know they get out 194 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: of it. They just don't want to work, eat eat 195 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: either that. Listen, Rick, did you go in there and say, hey, guys, 196 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to spend any money fix my car? 197 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: Is your tell them to fix it and drop it off? Right? 198 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Is your Is your dollar bill as green as the 199 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: next guys? I hope? So? Okay, then they should fix 200 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: the car. And that's the bottom one, all right. And 201 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: if they don't want the job, then they're just looking 202 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: for the gravy or the easy stuff, all right, sir? 203 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: So go do those things? Follow up questions? Yeah, go ahead. 204 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Do you have time for to follow up? Real quick question? 205 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I do, But let me pull 206 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: over and take a pause and then we'll come back 207 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: to that. You stay put, Rick, I'm running any of 208 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: the car Doctor will be back right after this. Need 209 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: advice on how to maintain that classic gt O Ron 210 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: is the guy zero zero. Here's Ron. Let's go back 211 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: to Rick and Kentucky. Rick, you're still there, sir um. 212 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, let's let's just talk about the 213 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: idol again real quick. We should mention I should mention 214 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: that it was important on these older hondas that the 215 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: ignition system is in tip top shape, good spark plugs, Um, 216 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: it would not be uncommon sparks scatter, Make sure base 217 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: timing is set correctly, and make sure you may want 218 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: to take the distributor cap off and just look. Does 219 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: it look like there's any kind of arc marks or 220 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: punched through going on around the ignition rotor, because if 221 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: this isn't if this is an older rotor that hasn't 222 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: been serviced, you may, you know, take it all, flip 223 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: it over to do you see any black carbon tracking 224 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: like sparks, scatters coming through and grounding on the distributor 225 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: shift all right? And you know, yeah, it was or 226 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: is the weak lay and when the ignition system starts 227 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: to die out, it will punch through and create all 228 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: kinds of issues. And let's face it, at idle under 229 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: a c you know that's a that's a tough condition. 230 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: I'd be curious. And my guess is that it would stabilize. 231 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: Is if you're sitting in the in gear and the 232 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: vehicle starts to chug and and and and shake. If 233 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: you pop it in neutral, I bet the RPM comes 234 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: back up because now it's not under load. Yeah, so 235 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, just make sure the ignition is as good 236 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: as it should be. You have another question, Yes, sir, 237 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the the technometer on the dashboard is reading about four fifty, 238 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: but the reading off the scanner is telling me about 239 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: seven thirty three RPMs. Well, I would I would say 240 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: that the that the technometer on the dashboards probably wrong. 241 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let that bother me. Do you have a 242 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: do you have a timing light with a techometer built in? Sir? 243 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: M Can you get a you know, an old school 244 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: tac to well set up? Just put an external meter, 245 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: Just put an external meter on it, all right. If 246 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're if you're gonna go out and 247 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: get creative and buy an advanced timing light. Most of 248 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: the advanced timing lights in the day had tachometers built 249 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: into them. And you know, listen, if you're gonna work 250 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: on your own car, it doesn't hurt to have the tools. 251 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: And what I would tell you is, if you hook 252 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: it up to your car and it says for fifty 253 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: or if it says something totally different nine hundred, go 254 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: hook it up to another car. Right, you know, it 255 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. Go hook it up. Go hook it up 256 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: to another car. So second question, uh, would it be 257 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: worth it to clean the intake manifold and change the 258 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: field filter if the fuel filters restricted, that could cause 259 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: this problem as well. Alright, Well, the Honda says that 260 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: you never Honda Manuel says you never changed that fueld filter. 261 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: So so Handa thinks Honda things that we're using magic gasoline. 262 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: I thought, right, right, because in the world of Honda, 263 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: so Honda is one of those companies that thinks that, 264 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: you know what, their cars never break and they have 265 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: magic gas because every other vehicle manufacturer says change the 266 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: fuel filter on a regular basis. You come up to 267 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: a car company that says, never what you're so, in 268 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: other words, you go to a gas station that says, 269 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: hondas only is that what you're telling me, is that 270 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: what you have? But you know, I don't know, but 271 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: that was that's gotta be what you have in Kentucky. 272 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: You gotta have Honda only gas stations, so that doesn't 273 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: make any sense. Uh listen, if it's longer than thirty 274 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: thousand miles, since you put a fuel filter in that car, 275 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: change it. It's good maintenance. All right, kiddo, do what 276 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: you gotta do. I gotta move along, all right, sir, 277 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: you'll be well. Good luck to be posted. Very well, Yes, sir, 278 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: be well. Let's get on over and talk to Oh 279 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: let's go to vine And Florida thirteen thirteen Kiliak and Vinny. 280 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Why do you need air conditioning in Florida? It's got 281 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: to be like thirty or forty degrees there. We only 282 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: need it when it gets so over ninety. Other than that, 283 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: nowhere condition is an easy I thought it was like 284 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was like thirty or forty degrees. They're 285 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: cooler than the temperature of the sun, that is, but 286 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: usually usually only on January one, it's that cold, right, Yeah, yeah, 287 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: I brother, you got guts living there. Let me tell 288 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: you it's hot. So what's on your mind? What's going on? 289 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: All right? So I replaced the had a compressive failure. 290 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: In February two, I replaced the compressive expansion valve, the condensed, 291 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: flushed it out, charged it, and it was working pretty good. 292 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: It was blowing that out of the event at about 293 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: thirty eight degrees forty degrees and recently, UH looks at 294 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: the temperature is not going below uh sixty degrees out 295 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: of the event, and and the low side is forty 296 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: five and the high side is ninety five. And I 297 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: didn't see anything on any parts where the low side 298 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: was normal and the high side was low to diagnosis. 299 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: So I thought I'd give you a call and see 300 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: what your opinion is on that. What's what's residual pressure? 301 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: If you if you check it system pressure at you know, 302 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: vehicle off just took up a set of gages. Did 303 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: you have wen to look at that? Does it equalize out? Um? 304 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I did not look at that today. No, okay, UM, 305 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I'd be curious what that is? Does it equalize out? Now? 306 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: This should be a variable displacement compressor, if I'm not mistaken. 307 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: And sometimes the diagnostic methods are a little different than conventional, 308 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: so we we want to look at pressures at idle 309 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: key you know, engine off. We want to look at 310 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: pressures at idle engine running if you take it down 311 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: the road, or if you sit there and increase the 312 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: idle speed. Uh, you know in the bay, I'll use 313 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: that term. Do you happen to know where does high 314 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: side pressure go up? Can it build high side pressure? 315 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: Um let's started started a little bit low, and it 316 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: looks like it started to build it as it was 317 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: idol after the after the repair. Yeah, in February when 318 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: it was working, the low side the fifty and the 319 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: high side was one fifty, which is a little I'll 320 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: tell you what, Benny, stay put sit right there, let 321 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: me pull over. Take this. Plus, we'll be back to 322 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: you in a minute. I'm run any in the car, doctor, 323 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: don't anybody go anywhere. I'll be right back. Welcome back. 324 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: We're on the name of the car door. Let's get 325 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: back to Vinnie in Florida. You're still there, sir. Let's 326 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: let's let's back up a second. I just want to 327 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: be sure, you know, I thought about it. Depending upon 328 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: which engine is this, this may or may not be 329 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: a variable displacement compressor. But I still want to see 330 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: equal refrigerant balanced at idle. You know, engine off. It 331 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: should be even on both sides of the gage. Show 332 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: me there's no obstructions in the system, all right? That 333 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: being said, um always for giggles, even though I know 334 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: there's no check engine our line and we don't think 335 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: this way, even though we're looking at system pressure. Did 336 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: you happen to scan it for codes in the A 337 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: C module? Uh? Not recently? Okay, you might as well, 338 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: you know what, just takes one more thing off the list, 339 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: and then while you're in there you should be able 340 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: to find if you're looking at your make model by manufacturer, 341 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: there will be a pit for a C command how 342 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: much pulse with they want to give the compressor? In 343 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: other words, how hard are they making the compressor work. 344 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: If you don't have that pit, then it's not a 345 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: variable displacement compressor and it will change our flow of diagnosis. 346 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: All right. Now, while you're in there, look to see 347 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: do they list an evaporator fin temperature pit? All right, 348 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: evaporator it's event as an evaporator fin temp pit or 349 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: evaporator temp. They might just list it like that. If 350 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: they do, and you're seeing forty five on low side 351 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: and it doesn't match within five degrees on that pit. 352 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: That's gonna tell us something in and of itself, all right. 353 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: In other words, if we see forty five low side, 354 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: we should see roughly forty five to fifty degrees at 355 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: the duct I'm sorry, at the evaporator, and then you'll 356 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: lose ten degrees getting to the duct and that makes sixty. 357 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: That just tells us the systems working like it should, 358 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: that it's doing what it's supposed to do. I'm not 359 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: a big fan of chasing symptom. I want to know 360 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: what's broken and what's working, all right, So I just 361 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: want to see that the two match and they're doing 362 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. Number one, number two, number three. 363 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: Forget high side pressure for a minute. How do we 364 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: know blend doors are working that we don't have a 365 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: blend or issue. Uh, well, it's it's blowing pretty strong 366 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: out of the event. But now that you bring it up, 367 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: occasionally the uh whatever reason, I don't know, the doesn't 368 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: blow out of the top events and I have to 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: pull the fuse and reset it and then it then 370 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: it works fine. Happened on two occasions, but it seems 371 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: to be uh, blowing out of the top fence like 372 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: it normally does. Put a put a temperature gauge in 373 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: the events to get the temp out of it. But 374 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: but what I'm and that's fine, But what I'm also 375 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: thinking about or talking about, is how do I know 376 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: the blend or when you set it to you you 377 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: set the temperature at the at the at the control 378 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: head to max cold, right, correct, How do you know 379 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the blend or moved there? Um? Well, I never I 380 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: never moved the blend door. So I'm assuming I'm making 381 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: assumption and it's there. I mean, I guess I can 382 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: move it to another well move it back? Well yeah, 383 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: but I mean when you when you move the control 384 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: and when you set the control head. In a car, 385 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: let's talk a generic automobile. And you know we've got 386 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: a low setting of a C two maximum heat. Right, 387 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: let's say the low setting like in my suburban, my 388 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: old four suburban, I set the temperature to sixty degrees, 389 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: that's max cold. I've had it where it's as I've 390 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: commanded sixty degrees, and I've had bad actuators. Were all 391 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: commands sixty degrees. But I'm only getting I'm all of 392 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: a sudden. I'm getting seventy two degrees, all right, And 393 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go in and I'll pull codes, and 394 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: I'll check the blend door actuators because there's two, there's 395 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: one per side, and I'll find the one on the 396 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: driver's side isn't moving past it's a certain step and 397 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: it's blending more heater core air or more heat off 398 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: the heater core then evaporator, and it's changing output temperature 399 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: at the duct. Got you. So the way to test 400 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: that would be via the scan tool and actuated or 401 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: well you might you might see it that the head, 402 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: you might see it. That's why I say pull codes. 403 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Because the computer runs a self test. It will sweep 404 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: the door actuators at some point and it will look 405 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: to see if it's if it's a zero step, zero 406 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: to a hundred and fifty five steps, and it sweeps 407 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: it up, and it sweeps it down and it goes 408 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: zero to two, back to ten. It's gonna go, wait 409 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: a minute, I didn't get full sweep and it'll set 410 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: a fault for that. So alright, So so it doesn't 411 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: so it doesn't equalize. What does that mean? It sounds 412 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: like I've got I'm sorry. I was gonna say, it 413 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: sounds like I've got a restriction in the system. Okay, 414 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: so it doesn't equalise, it sounds like but if it equalizes, 415 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: there's no restriction, right, there's no restriction. Then we've got 416 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: to decide why aren't we getting adequate performance? Do we 417 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: have a bad new compressor? Can't build you know, can't 418 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: make a can't can't create enough suction, and can't create 419 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: enough of a pressure differential on highside? Do we have 420 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: a blend or issue? Do we have it? Do we 421 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: have an electronic problem? So? What kind of compression did 422 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: you use? I'm sure you're gonna tell me new GM. Um, 423 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think it is a 424 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: new GM. Okay, alright, not so, I mean that's what 425 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of thinking of the compressor 426 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: because when I put it in, you know, as long 427 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: as as long as the RPMs were up and blow 428 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: at thirty eight to forty degrees. But if I was 429 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm sitting at a light temperature, it 430 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: or automatically moved to you know, like fifty And that 431 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: was from the first day after the recharge of a way. 432 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: But as soon as But if I put it in 433 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: neutral and I stepped on the gas and put the 434 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: r p M S up, it would go right back 435 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: down to forty you know about forty degrees a thirty 436 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: eight degrees. So I'm I'm kind of thinking a week compressor. 437 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't, well, it could be a compressor. Do you 438 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: have have you looked at the cooling fans. There's got 439 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: to be a cooling fan for the condenser. Cooling fan 440 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: runs high speed when it has to. And again I'm 441 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: back to are there any fault codes? Did the did 442 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: the computer command high speed fan on? And it didn't 443 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: see it come on? And it's just not telling you 444 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: because there's no warning line on the dashboard right the 445 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: fan the fans on. I don't know that it's on 446 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: high speed all the time. It would but you know, 447 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: like I was driving driving down Interstate yesterday at seventy 448 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: and it was blowing, you know, sixty sixties not caled enough. 449 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: It should be sixties, not called enough, should be in 450 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: the forty five range. All right, I would let me 451 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: put the gages on this more so, lea'st last thought 452 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: before I go all right, Um, this car is now 453 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: nine years old ten years old. I've never seen it, 454 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna throw this out there. Make sure 455 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: all the ducting in the front of the radiator, in 456 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: the front of the bumper, all the cowling, everything is 457 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, and that it's flowing air 458 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: across the condenser as as required by GM. A lot 459 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: of the newer vehicles have a smaller cowl area, that 460 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: area in front of the grill. And you know, I've 461 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: had it where one shield is out of place. I've 462 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: seen cars overheat missing cowling, shielding and balance shielding and 463 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: so forth. So just be sure everything is as designed. 464 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: So do that, do this, you know, do the things 465 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: we talked about, go through it, and um, you know, 466 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: if you need more, just call me back next week, 467 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: let me know what you find. We can kind of 468 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: take it from there. Vinny, I appreciate the call. I 469 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: gotta run, Zo zero, we'll be back right after this. 470 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back Ron, the end of the car doctor five 471 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let's go over and talk to Lewis and Iowa. 472 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, How can I help? 473 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to you, Ron Louis ducom On two thousand and eight, 474 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: Nissan rogue. The catalytic converter failed, and I wonder if 475 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: I could change it. I'd since it was bolt and 476 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: bolt on each end, I'd change it myself. But I've 477 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: got a few comments or questions on the procedure. I've 478 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: got a haynes man. You know, they said remove the 479 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: alternator or no, they said, do not remove it, remove 480 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: the manifold. The alternator had to come off before you 481 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: took the manifold off. So so you're talking, you're talking 482 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: about the cat in the manifold. That's correct. One piece. 483 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: I wish it was two pieces, but at least it 484 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: was bolts. And the bolts and nuts weren't too hard 485 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: to get off, which helped. But getting the tension off 486 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: the serpentine belt was a pain. You're supposed to take 487 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: the right front wheel off and take off the fender laner. 488 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: I did not want to do that. There was hardly 489 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: any clearance to get on a fourteen millimeter head on 490 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: that tension or pulley. Do you have a special ranch 491 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: to take the tension off that belt. There's terribly close 492 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: quarters or room for a rich and that's about it. 493 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I've got a I've got a bunch of different manufacturers 494 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: make it as a special tool you'll buy. But I've 495 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: got something. It's a surrup belt tool. It's it's a long, 496 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: flat piece of steel with a short recessed socket. Variable 497 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: sockets fit in it that will go down in between 498 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: the you know, and it allows you to pull back 499 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: on the tension or to take the belt off. So 500 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's not uncommon. That's something we've 501 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: had for years. You know. You may find one at 502 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: your local lotoparts store. You know, if you have an 503 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: O'Reilly oto Parts by you, you may be able to go. 504 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: You may be able to go and rent the tool. 505 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: Tell them what you're trying to do. And O'Reilly Oorto 506 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Parts does rent tools, so you don't have to buy them, right, 507 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: and you could go and rent the tool from them 508 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: if they have it, and they very well might. So 509 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: um sounds. One more thing. When I put the manifold 510 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: back on your special sequence on an exhaust manifold, you 511 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: had to go over it twice one ft pounds. I 512 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: did that in the afternoon, and I thought it would 513 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: just I did not finish the car, so I rechecked 514 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: the torque the next morning. It was not thirty one 515 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: foot pounds. Um, I've got to be honest with you, Lewis, 516 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: and it's just me. I've never talked an exhaust manifold 517 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: back on anything in my life. But maybe it's just feel. 518 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Do you oil your Are you oiling the threads of 519 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: your bolts? I did not put any anti sees on 520 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: the bolt, not not any seas I always put it. 521 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: I always put a drop of threads on the oil. 522 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I always put a drop of oil on the threads 523 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: of anything i'm tightening. I got in that habit I got. 524 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: I got in that habit years ago, and I'll put 525 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. If it's a rusty exhaust manifold, I'll 526 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: put a drop of oil under the head of the 527 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: bolt or the washer. Um, and then it's just a 528 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: matter of feeld. You know. Remember when we're twerking something, 529 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: we're accounting for and counting on the bolt to stretch. 530 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: We're counting on the twist ability of that bolt. Think 531 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: of Plato or Clay right, We're gonna twist it and 532 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: expected to hold that tension under load. Um, it's it's 533 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: great that your hand tworking it. I won't say you're 534 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: doing it wrong, but a lot of times. Something like 535 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: that is a feel, you know, it's it's just a 536 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: and I guess if you do it enough times, maybe 537 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm what I'm not considering. So um, 538 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: when you went to second day to check it and 539 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: check the tour, what did you think it was? It 540 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: had gone down? What was I think it was even 541 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: less than that. Some of them are all right, and 542 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: maybe two or three were a little bit. They weren't 543 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: They weren't tight. So I retort them back to foot 544 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: pounds and I and put the thing back together the 545 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: heat shroud. You know, it has to be over the 546 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: over the man fold. It's really really a pain that car. 547 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: But also after I've got her back running ahead of 548 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: a random misfire, did you do petitor nap or nap 549 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: and mechanics had replaced the boots in the head for 550 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: the spark plug wires off the coil and that took 551 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: care of it, right, Yeah, And that's very possible. The 552 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: plug wires tend to dry out and the boots, the 553 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: boots tend to get brittle. Did you use any dielectric 554 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: crease when you put them back on over the spark plugs? Yes? 555 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: I did. He read Meca Redden. Did I use that? 556 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: I've never done it before, so I think. But it 557 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: was a turrible pain getting the plugs out. There's seventy 558 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: thousand miles on the plug ugs and but I used 559 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: the anti sees on the plugs. When I put it 560 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: in there, there bosh plugs, and I did think you'd 561 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: be such a pain to get out. The boy they 562 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: were tight, Yeah, they were tight, and listen, there's nothing 563 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: wrong with that. Again. I stopped using the anti cs 564 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: truth be told a couple of years back because I 565 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: believe they've changed the formulation. Um. It used to be 566 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: that antcs had a little bit more lubricity to it. 567 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: Now it seems like they're putting more glass in it. 568 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: And it's got it's got a sharpness and a coarseness 569 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: to it that I haven't. I haven't used it but 570 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: a few exceptional exceptional uh you know applications. You know, 571 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: a drop of oil on the threads, everything comes apart. 572 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: And I haven't had an issue yet, and that's just 573 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, mechanic to mechanics, all right, but they will. 574 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: What do you think of a Nissan rogue that Andrews 575 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: got about two hundred fifty three thousand miles at two 576 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: point five leader, brother, I think it's just broken in. 577 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: You've got no reason to complain about it, right, it's 578 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: it's it's serving well. Yeah, it's coming up on fifteen 579 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: years old. So thank you, Lewis. You'd be well, you 580 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: have a good rest of the weekend. Yes, sir, you're 581 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: welcome to take good care. So very nice man. Hey 582 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: like that. So we're helping everybody today. Um, let's pull over, 583 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: take a pause, five five zero zero. We'll be back 584 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back in the car. Doctor kind 585 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: of winding it down this, Sarah, let's do some email. 586 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: This one from Frank in Pennsylvania. Long time listening to Ron. 587 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: I've got an nineteen seventy two big block Corvette four speed. Frank, 588 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you fifty bucks for it. Do you like 589 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: b F. Good Rich, Cooper, corbra A t Radios or 590 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: un Royal Tiger Ports. What's the best choice to fifteen 591 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: seventy R fifteen? Um? I gotta tell you, Frank, Um, 592 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: I like all three tires, but just in this application 593 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: on an older car like that, I think there's nothing 594 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: greater than a B. F. Good Rich. All right, there, 595 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: was something about BF good Rich radial TIA's back in 596 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: the day, and you know still have a soft spot 597 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: form when the Monte Carlo finally hits the road, which 598 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: I hope to do so this fall we're gonna look 599 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: for so to be of good rich radial tias for that. 600 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: So my choice are the good Rich. Um. Not that 601 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the other two are bad, but I like those better. 602 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: I like the good Rich better as a choice. UM. 603 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: This comes to us from research Kathy. She just found 604 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: this great article. UM. Down in Texas, they're talking about 605 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: let's see states hitting hybrid and electric car rowns with 606 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: new taxes. Thirty states are hitting hybrid cardinals with additional 607 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: taxes to pay for highway maintenance, and a dozen more 608 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: have proposals in their legislation. This out of Texas, USA, 609 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: from a John Matta res author. State governments everywhere starting 610 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: the tax owners of hybrid and electric cars because they 611 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: claim their drivers don't pay enough in gas leane tax. Well, 612 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: if they're driving an electric vehicle, Um, well, I guess 613 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: the hybrids would be paying gas lean tax to some degree. 614 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: But if they're driving an electric vehicle, they're not gonna 615 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: be paying any road maintenance because they're not paying any 616 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: gas uh tax. So yeah, that's something to look forward to. 617 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: I guess they're starting to do that. This is a 618 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: little bit older. It's about a month ago. We're just 619 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna round to it now. My apologies is out of 620 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. Summers around the corner, and they're 621 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: talking about let's see what we suggest you prepared by 622 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: buying an emergency generator if you can find one in stock. 623 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: Last week, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation or NERK, 624 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: I don't know we had one of those a NERK. Gee, 625 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: what do you work? I work at NERK. Is that 626 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: like chaos and well control gets smart more and the 627 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: two thirds of the U S could experience blackouts this summer. 628 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the green energy transition. We've been wanting for 629 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: years that climate policies would make the grid more vulnerable 630 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: to vacillations and supply and demand than here we are. 631 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Some of the mainstream press are belatedly catching on that 632 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: blackouts are coming, but they still don't grasp the real problem. 633 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: The force transition to green energy is distorting energy markets 634 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: and destabilizing the grid. Yeah, I gotta say that. The 635 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: it seems like we're headed towards that. Right, that's becoming 636 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: more and more of an issue. Uh as as time 637 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: marches on. Right, we're UM, we've got to watch the 638 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: electric vehicle translation transformation and be aware that it's not 639 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: gonna happen overnight, and that UM. A lot of the 640 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: issues we talked about recently in the last year or 641 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: two are starting to come to fruition in terms of UH, well, 642 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: the grid infrastructure UM, support for the electric vehicle UM. 643 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: But in any event, hey, listen, don't forget. If you 644 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: want to be part of the Car Doctor Vacation Show, 645 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: help Ron take a couple of weeks off, call in 646 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: during the week or qualit eight FI five five zero 647 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: nine zero and the Toma kitch up on the air 648 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 649 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: Let's see you