Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janne Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. Hi,
Speaker 1: Happy wine Down Day. I missed you. I miss you too,
Speaker 1: You're sick you three. Hey, Mike, we have a special
Speaker 1: guest in studio with producer John and I my husband Michael.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um So should we get to or should
Speaker 1: we just like you know, make people wait a little
Speaker 1: bit longer talk about our weekend. Well, I'm confused because
Speaker 1: I listened to last week's and you said you had
Speaker 1: a big announcement. I don't even know what's going on. Well,
Speaker 1: then we're in a boy, we're in lots of trouble.
Speaker 1: Then you don't know what my announcement is bad? I
Speaker 1: have an idea, but an idea. Did I land my
Speaker 1: first big major role post one Tree Hill? Would be great?
Speaker 1: And I can pursue my golf dream would be great.
Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Producer Gen? While I
Speaker 1: was reading the comments Monday night, and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: everyone has their own idea of what it is, and
Speaker 1: I've been sitting next to you for like six weeks
Speaker 1: now and I have no clue. I really, I really
Speaker 1: don't know. It could be acting, it could be a
Speaker 1: new album. I know that you're performing at the forum
Speaker 1: coming up. So I was thinking maybe new music, new album.
Speaker 1: Hm oh. There were so many different There was album,
Speaker 1: there was pregnancy, there was acting, there was divorce, I
Speaker 1: mean everything, and it was like all of the above. Um.
Speaker 1: But actually I do have an EP that I'm going
Speaker 1: to be releasing later this year. That's not the announcement. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I am doing that then this year. Awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: still auditioning, but I've yet to land the role that
Speaker 1: will come yeah, um okay, but I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: it out there. So Mike and I have decided that wait,
Speaker 1: what we're calling it quits? Jenna really wants you talked
Speaker 1: so highly about him, Jenn, this is actually all your fault.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame you, thank you my fault. She wants Wednesdays,
Speaker 1: I do. So we just wanted to be happy about
Speaker 1: it because you know, so in the midst of all that,
Speaker 1: we decided that we are going to also have Wait
Speaker 1: but we're actually not though, let's just wait. We don't
Speaker 1: want to start off actually no, no, no, no, we're great.
Speaker 1: We're happy. Um we are. I'm gonna cry, like almost crying.
Speaker 1: I'm yes, we're having a baby. Oh my God, when's
Speaker 1: the due date? Um, it's a November November baby, I'm crying,
Speaker 1: are you? I'm so happy for you guys. Are you excited? Michael.
Speaker 1: It's been a tough. It's been a tough journey. I
Speaker 1: mean we um, I've I've we have lost our last
Speaker 1: two pregnancy, so it's been it's been really rough. And UM,
Speaker 1: so I've have we've both had a really hard time
Speaker 1: with this one because you know, the last the one
Speaker 1: we lost in October. Last October was um was that
Speaker 1: we went to our ten ten week culture sound and
Speaker 1: it was gone, just breaking, Yeah, and we had already
Speaker 1: heard the heartbeat and I was it and so that
Speaker 1: was just really hard. And then we did IVF and
Speaker 1: it worked and then I ended up having chemical loss,
Speaker 1: but just like going through like IVF again and then
Speaker 1: being so like it's just it's it was just really hard. Um.
Speaker 1: And I've I've actually took a bunch of videos that
Speaker 1: I'm going to share, um probably I'm starting my my
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, so I'm gonna share those on my youtubes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so because I just want people to know that, like
Speaker 1: they're not alone. And um, but when we found out
Speaker 1: we were pregnant, I mean it was a total shock.
Speaker 1: But this is exactly what happened with our last pregnancy.
Speaker 1: We did IVF. It worked, and then I had a
Speaker 1: chemical loss, and then the next time I ovulated, I
Speaker 1: got pregnant with Jolie, and before that we so every
Speaker 1: time was after an IVF cycle. So I don't know if,
Speaker 1: like I wonder if it has something to do with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't know if my body
Speaker 1: just needs that extra progesterone or if it needs it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have I have no clue, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: every appointment though, I was just like and we we
Speaker 1: kept passing because the the baby after Jolie we lost
Speaker 1: around like seven weeks and so I've had like three
Speaker 1: miscarriages too, chemical so three miscarriage and then so five
Speaker 1: total and two chemicals. So it's just been like it's
Speaker 1: been tough because we've wanted to tell people, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's also that hard thing of being
Speaker 1: like and we lost it, right, But we're so far.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're past the we're past the like scary point.
Speaker 1: But it's all it's all scary, that's the thing. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, we're so excited, but at the same point,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's all just in God's hands, and
Speaker 1: which is just it's just such a scary process. Really,
Speaker 1: it's such it's a true miracle, like we were saying,
Speaker 1: like to to have a baby, it's a real it's
Speaker 1: it's truly a miracle. I mean, it seems so easy
Speaker 1: when you look at some people, but then other times
Speaker 1: it's like it's a miracle like having to go through
Speaker 1: I mean, because there's still things that could happen. But
Speaker 1: I'm trying, I'm trying to think positive. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's hard. Well, your experience, your past experience, is creating
Speaker 1: what you feel right now. So it's but the thing
Speaker 1: is is it is scary. Even when you're healthy and
Speaker 1: you've had really healthy pregnancies, it's still scary. It's terrifying.
Speaker 1: Well like if they're not kicking, do remember that you're
Speaker 1: sitting there and it's like even felt them for And
Speaker 1: so my girlfriend Lisa she Um when she was pregnant
Speaker 1: with her first daughter, Raylan, she didn't feel kicks and
Speaker 1: she just had that mother's intuition. She's like, I have
Speaker 1: to put the hospital and if she would have waited
Speaker 1: thirty minutes her daughter would have died. So it's just
Speaker 1: like things like that. It's like even on top of it.
Speaker 1: So there's so many things that go along with it.
Speaker 1: It's like super freaky. But at the same time we're
Speaker 1: so excited. We're very excited to bring h sibling. It
Speaker 1: sounds like, you guys know what's the sexes, Well, we do,
Speaker 1: but we want to be a sure so we haven't
Speaker 1: had that. Um you know, I'm sixteen and a half
Speaker 1: a week, so we haven't had the the gender ultrasound yet.
Speaker 1: So I just want to be sure of that first.
Speaker 1: Because we've had a few friends that have gotten the
Speaker 1: blood work like we did, and it actually was wrong.
Speaker 1: I had a friend that happened to and how is
Speaker 1: the blood work wrong? I don't understand that. It's so crazy.
Speaker 1: And you know what's the hardest part about that is
Speaker 1: you get so excited and attached to the thigh like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm having a boy, I'm having a boy. Oh they're
Speaker 1: out buying blue stuff, they're you know, the dad's thinking
Speaker 1: about what sports he's going to play. And then you
Speaker 1: go back in and they say, oh God, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry you're having a girl. You're like what I always
Speaker 1: knew Rocko was a boy? You did? I did? I
Speaker 1: always thought I was going to have a girl, had
Speaker 1: the name picked out everything, like first name, middle name.
Speaker 1: I knew. That's awesome. And then they told me I
Speaker 1: was having a boy and I had to have an
Speaker 1: already got the name. That's not right A boy? What
Speaker 1: do I name him? I have no idea? Like I
Speaker 1: had no idea, So I just started flipping through, um
Speaker 1: sane boy. The boy names are hard. Boy names are yeah,
Speaker 1: like we have we have both picked out for each,
Speaker 1: but we had way more trouble with the boy name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how long was the list? We already knew our girl name?
Speaker 1: We had our two. We had two girl names from
Speaker 1: like the time we met. I was like, Hi, my
Speaker 1: name is Jenna. We're gonna date, we're gonna get married
Speaker 1: in these are my kids names, and like literally like
Speaker 1: we were in the early stages and we were just
Speaker 1: messing around, like writing down names. And the two girl
Speaker 1: names that we wrote down, one of them was Jolie
Speaker 1: Ray and the other one which we won't say in
Speaker 1: case the girl we don't want to take it true,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know people they know, like I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: these are the names. Yeah, but so like we know
Speaker 1: what this one is and so you know, once we
Speaker 1: confirm that it's a girl or what or a boy
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, then that would be a
Speaker 1: girl name. And with a boy, if it's a boy,
Speaker 1: then we'll just be like, well, how are you how
Speaker 1: are you feel? Like, are you excited about the pregnancy?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? I'm super excited because we've tried
Speaker 1: really hard and it's been a long road for us
Speaker 1: to you know, get this second child that we both
Speaker 1: so you know, eagerly wanted. Um. I just think it's
Speaker 1: we have a greater appreciation for the miracle of having
Speaker 1: a baby because of what we've been through and what
Speaker 1: you've been through with miscarriages. And I think anyone that's
Speaker 1: been through that definitely can relate. You know, there are
Speaker 1: some fortunate couples out there that bang, bang, they have
Speaker 1: their kids, no issues, and that's amazing. UM. I think
Speaker 1: because of the road that we've had trying to get pregnant,
Speaker 1: not only with Jolie, but the second child, you know,
Speaker 1: is why Janna is so kind of by the book
Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, because there's pregnant women
Speaker 1: that might have a drink or so mody sushi or
Speaker 1: Deli meat and stuff like that. And because we've experienced
Speaker 1: that loss more than we really wanted to. It's like
Speaker 1: you do excuse me, you don't want to go back
Speaker 1: and say, and your mind's gonna start playing tricks that
Speaker 1: if you do live, oh, maybe I shouldn't have that
Speaker 1: glass of wine, or maybe I shouldn't have done this,
Speaker 1: and then you have that reason that they could eat
Speaker 1: at you forever. And so Jane has been great, super
Speaker 1: strong with as much as she loves wine, right, I
Speaker 1: mean she just stops cold turkey for you know, wonder woman.
Speaker 1: But I mean it was also because I was this
Speaker 1: was way harder than the first pregnancy. I was so sick.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I was, like I thought I
Speaker 1: was sick with Jolie. But go ahead of what is
Speaker 1: saying it was bad. It was bad. We thought Jolie
Speaker 1: was bad. She was literally, no exaggerating, like bedridden for
Speaker 1: the for six weeks, yeah, I mean bedridden. And Julie
Speaker 1: forced me like you know, mama, I'm like no, baby,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, mom is in the room, like we can't
Speaker 1: bother her, and like so Julie. We know she's in there,
Speaker 1: but you know she can't get to her. So she
Speaker 1: got used to his good bonding time for Julie and I.
Speaker 1: That's you know what I mean. And by the end
Speaker 1: of it, that was it's true that you guys had
Speaker 1: some great bonding time because you know, Mike's gone at
Speaker 1: work all the time, and now that since I don't
Speaker 1: have a a steady job, I'm with Jolie at home
Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm she's my ride or die
Speaker 1: right now. And like it's just but he was really
Speaker 1: able to, like, you know, she'd come in the room
Speaker 1: and say no, no no, mamma, love you, and he put
Speaker 1: her to bed. So they started this like awesome routine together.
Speaker 1: And I cried the first mom's coming back and messing
Speaker 1: it up, but like I definitely, um, I definitely cried,
Speaker 1: you know about it because I felt like I wasn't
Speaker 1: doing a good job. I felt like I was being
Speaker 1: a bad mom and I wasn't able, but I mean,
Speaker 1: truly I could not keep anything down. So it was
Speaker 1: it was just, it was definitely tough and I felt
Speaker 1: like but Mike, I will say, was way more hands
Speaker 1: on this pregnancy and was just so um and I
Speaker 1: think just because of kind of where we're at in
Speaker 1: our relationship and where he's at personally just in a
Speaker 1: different headspace and who he is now is he was
Speaker 1: just so much more present with me, and I didn't
Speaker 1: feel guilty, like laying in bed, I felt like he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna like hold it against he was just he
Speaker 1: just was there for me, and it felt so nice
Speaker 1: to be supported. So thank you for doing that when
Speaker 1: I really really truly needed you. I had been prescribed
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Speaker 1: visiting bone Jesta Prescribing Information dot com. How did Julie
Speaker 1: react so she like kind of knows what kind of
Speaker 1: doesn't know? I think there's like moments where she says, like,
Speaker 1: you know, baby, and we're big. You want a brother,
Speaker 1: She's like, or a sister and she's like yeah, But
Speaker 1: I don't think she like really knows, Like I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really sure, but what do you think? Then?
Speaker 1: I think she'll embrace it because we've had friends with
Speaker 1: babies and she's always kind of like wanting to hold
Speaker 1: the baby, and we have little babies for her, this
Speaker 1: realistic one that so terrifying. We actually it's really sad
Speaker 1: I got this realistic looking baby because the last last
Speaker 1: October she's like baby and my mommy, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get her like a real like a baby that
Speaker 1: looks real. And it came like two days after I
Speaker 1: found out I miscarried, and I was like I put
Speaker 1: this in the closet, um, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I remember that the real life baby look alike was
Speaker 1: in the closet. So we took it out and she's
Speaker 1: like baby. So but Mike came home, it was like Jesus, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Even then Nanny was like, um, real baby,
Speaker 1: but no, it was it was a fake baby. But um.
Speaker 1: The hardest thing is going to be, especially with Janna
Speaker 1: with the new baby, is that attachment that Julie has
Speaker 1: with her, because anytime like Janna will hold like our
Speaker 1: friends babies or something like that, she's like Mama, like
Speaker 1: let's go basically put that thing down. I'm yours, like
Speaker 1: pick me up. Yeah. Our friends actually and Chad have
Speaker 1: a eight month old baby boy and I'm always holding him,
Speaker 1: and the second Jolie sees me, she just starts screaming
Speaker 1: and wants me to then pick her up and put
Speaker 1: baby down. She's like down, down, down. Uh. So you
Speaker 1: will have to set her up as your helper, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: and she give her a role so she feels like
Speaker 1: she's part of it. And I've already started to like
Speaker 1: kind of read into things about like you the second child,
Speaker 1: and you know, things to do, like you know when
Speaker 1: we do have the baby, like, um, that we shouldn't
Speaker 1: be the ones holding our new baby when Julie first
Speaker 1: sees us, so um, like someone else should be holding
Speaker 1: the baby. Um and then kind of introduced. And then
Speaker 1: also the baby gives Joli a gift. So just things
Speaker 1: like that to kind of like maker feel like she's
Speaker 1: not being her places and being taken um. But I
Speaker 1: mean there were definitely things that helps, you know, with
Speaker 1: this pregnancy. I UM, I had started taking diclegias with
Speaker 1: my last pregnancy and it worked with then I started
Speaker 1: taking bone jesta um and it really really really helps
Speaker 1: the morning sickness. So it doesn't do so it's it's
Speaker 1: a vitamin B and then um, oh there's another technical
Speaker 1: term that you know I'll get into, but it's um,
Speaker 1: it's basically just helps you helps the nausea. UM so UM,
Speaker 1: you know, I just it's it's just great because I
Speaker 1: feel like once I started like taking it and the
Speaker 1: bone Jessa, it was just it made me just be
Speaker 1: able to kind of go back to my daily activities
Speaker 1: and I was still but I was able to function,
Speaker 1: which was like huge, and that made me like game changer.
Speaker 1: And then, UM, I also want to give it a
Speaker 1: shout out just to say thank you too for helping me.
Speaker 1: But the reason I truly think I got pregnant was
Speaker 1: because I was wearing the Ava bracelet and I had
Speaker 1: gotten it from like my branding manager, um, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'll try it. I never knew I
Speaker 1: ovulated like I always thought I ovulated in the thirteen
Speaker 1: fourteen day and I so I was wearing this bracelet
Speaker 1: and it um it told me that I ovulated in
Speaker 1: the sixteen seventeen and boom, the next month we got pregnant.
Speaker 1: But I would have never known. You would have never Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. So I just wanted to give a shout
Speaker 1: out to them too and just say thank you because
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times when we do these
Speaker 1: ads and stuff on Instagram, you never really know if
Speaker 1: like if it really really works. But I'm like no,
Speaker 1: I mean a month later it worked, So it was
Speaker 1: It's crucial when you're trying to get pregnant to know
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, like when you're peeing on like
Speaker 1: CVS sticks and I'm like, you know, so it's like
Speaker 1: invest in something that's good and it's pregnant helped me really,
Speaker 1: not by the Ava bracelet, but I used a digit
Speaker 1: oh digitally and those are better and I am a
Speaker 1: late ovulator. Had no idea. I don't know if like
Speaker 1: my cycle just got like sorry, honey, I don't know
Speaker 1: if my cycle just got like messed up or not.
Speaker 1: But um, but anyways, but we're really excited. I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: We're trying to stay positive. And again, I feel like
Speaker 1: by the way, I can't believe you didn't know, Like
Speaker 1: I was walking in slurpees, Like what normal person drinks
Speaker 1: from Detroit. That's true. I used to drink every day
Speaker 1: and I'm from Detroit. To people, it was like, well
Speaker 1: she's a slurpy girl. Seven eleven. I mean, I've made
Speaker 1: my you know, the guy at seven eleve. Now, literally
Speaker 1: I walked in. I know, it's like a buck eighty five.
Speaker 1: She wants, right, it's like a two dollars in cash.
Speaker 1: So I walked in a Cracker slurpy. There's the other
Speaker 1: day there's literally a line of like eight people. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, everyone want to go to seven eleven at
Speaker 1: that time. He just kind of waved me for in
Speaker 1: front of them, grabbed my two dollars and I always
Speaker 1: just leave the change with him, and I walked out
Speaker 1: the door. I'm a regular at seven eleven. OK. Great.
Speaker 1: For some reason, the coke like, because I can't drink water.
Speaker 1: For some reason, water makes me puke, So like I
Speaker 1: started drinking like Perry, which I found out because that
Speaker 1: was that was why I was getting sick, was because
Speaker 1: I couldn't drink water, so I'd get super de hydrated.
Speaker 1: So I would have this amazing lady come over and um,
Speaker 1: they would give me an ivy which would hydrate me.
Speaker 1: But those only thing I could keep down was a
Speaker 1: freaking coke slurpy. For some reason, the coke like settled
Speaker 1: my stomach. But yeah, everyone's like, I mean, a slurpy
Speaker 1: to me was like a dead give away, and then
Speaker 1: people on my Instagram were like, you're not posting about wine,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I know, I know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know because it makes me sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what, December one, I'm having a
Speaker 1: big old glass. I'm bringing it over, bringing over to
Speaker 1: my hospital, but I'm bringing over the sugar. And this
Speaker 1: is We're done. After this one. You're gonna go snip snap,
Speaker 1: snip snap? Are you I'm making him snip snap. We
Speaker 1: haven't really officially talked about right now, so I guess
Speaker 1: now a better place than on her podcast to talking
Speaker 1: about our intimate life behind the scene. So I guess
Speaker 1: I'm getting snapped said Okay, I mean unless you're like
Speaker 1: planning on having kids with somebody else. No, I just
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't really really talked about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh it's reversible. That's exactly what I say. Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that seems like, well, why don't you eat your tubes, tad.
Speaker 1: I'm like, because that's like that's done, that's like done, done, done.
Speaker 1: So if you want to have kids with somebody else,
Speaker 1: maybe double edged. I'm kidding. I'm just it's just so
Speaker 1: final for the girl, like I just knowing that it's
Speaker 1: like reversible for you. I personally, you know, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be thirty five this year, and I would like
Speaker 1: to be done with kids. Um. You know, we've always
Speaker 1: talked about adopting. That's something that Mike and I have always,
Speaker 1: especially BEAUTI when we first met, I was trying to
Speaker 1: adopt a girl and then it end up not working.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, we've always talked about that
Speaker 1: in the future. I did bring it up the other
Speaker 1: day though, I said, should we just adopt a baby?
Speaker 1: We're having a baby, and She's like, should we just
Speaker 1: put in the paperwork now? Like, well, because I figured,
Speaker 1: just like get you know what I mean, like just
Speaker 1: like to like two babies or you know, what are
Speaker 1: you taking Julie, You're really you know But then and
Speaker 1: I changed from mind. But maybe like down the road
Speaker 1: will adopt. So that's sweet. Yeah, what are you nervous about?
Speaker 1: Are you nervous about anything? Mike? Um, I'm nervous about no.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if it's if it's a girl,
Speaker 1: then we kind of got that downpacked. I'm more nervous
Speaker 1: if it's a boy. Um, But in general, just with kids,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about raisy then with the correct morals
Speaker 1: and beliefs and values and stuff like that, especially with
Speaker 1: the way society is now, and like in this big city. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who everybody gets a trophy. Oh yeah, he was mad
Speaker 1: because at our daughter's dance or sidle, she's two and
Speaker 1: a half, she got a trophy and he goes and
Speaker 1: he doesn't even making fun of the thing is that
Speaker 1: you are awesome. So I but like, come on, I'm
Speaker 1: on mike side and a half. She loved that thing,
Speaker 1: you know, just see her face light up when she
Speaker 1: got that trophy. She was so excited. She would have
Speaker 1: been just as excited if she didn't have one. Right, Really,
Speaker 1: I do not let Rocco win at everything. Oh well no,
Speaker 1: she I mean, I'm super competitive, but like because they
Speaker 1: have to learn that they have to work for it.
Speaker 1: They have to. But like even just like a little
Speaker 1: teenage trophy gives them an edge. We did not get
Speaker 1: trophies unless we won. But I feel like in this
Speaker 1: day and age, a lot of people don't think they're
Speaker 1: good enough, so that would maybe help with the good
Speaker 1: enough thing. Now, yes, you're enabling feeling step here. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I get what you guys are saying at
Speaker 1: the same time, like she's two and a half, Like
Speaker 1: maybe it can stop at like six, but we used
Speaker 1: to get a sticker, not even you know, what should
Speaker 1: be good enough is our appreciation and our reaction to
Speaker 1: it and our love and like excitement about what she
Speaker 1: just did. Like that should be enough as opposed to
Speaker 1: like giving them something to validate it. Right, did you
Speaker 1: try your hardest? Did you work your hardest? She's two
Speaker 1: and a half, she has no idea and she ran
Speaker 1: around in a circle time, but she did. And the
Speaker 1: way you react, like what Mike sane is you did
Speaker 1: such a good job. We're so proud of you, and
Speaker 1: that should validate her enough, right, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: get that, but I just I've always been the person
Speaker 1: that I I want everybody to win. I challenge that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry all of my friends in Nashville just
Speaker 1: called a major BS to that, because when it comes
Speaker 1: to me playing games, I want to win and I
Speaker 1: want to like especially like if you're on my UKRO team,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a big Like I grew up playing cards
Speaker 1: card did you play because you're from like yours is
Speaker 1: my game and I'm taking my girlfriend? Yeah, not DT
Speaker 1: you know, I hate it. I still called pine up um.
Speaker 1: But like I've I taught every single one of my
Speaker 1: girlfriends in Nashville how to play, and I mean, and
Speaker 1: they're still scared of me because I'm But it's just
Speaker 1: I'm very competitive. So when it comes to me, yes,
Speaker 1: I'd like to win, but at the same time, like,
Speaker 1: I still want to be encouraging to my child because
Speaker 1: I don't want her to feel disappointed. Well, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. You have to encourage her to be good
Speaker 1: and better and do her best. But it doesn't always
Speaker 1: have to include a trophy. No. Can you imagine if
Speaker 1: they handed out trophies to every football player. No, and
Speaker 1: that's no. If she if she starts playing like soccer
Speaker 1: and she's like five, she gets a trophy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take and throwing the carbon Michael absolutely and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys didn't win. You're gonna throw it in the trash.
Speaker 1: I'll do something with it. That's so mean. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's mean, like you guys, you guys. Then she's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh, because so Dad's not happy with me,
Speaker 1: because I know my reaction won't be disappointment in the
Speaker 1: trash and so you didn't win. Sit in the corner,
Speaker 1: you didn't win. Oh, I'm not saying that. I'm just yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating a little bit to the I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'll do, but I know I'll try to articulate
Speaker 1: and explain that to them that like, hey, we want
Speaker 1: like this isn't something that we're gonna do in this
Speaker 1: household because that's not how our generation was raised. And
Speaker 1: I think there's certain things that why these generations from
Speaker 1: now on are going to be soft in that aspect,
Speaker 1: because everyone has these expectations that they deserve something that
Speaker 1: they didn't learn. And so that's where the whole that's
Speaker 1: what I'm nervous about, is raising kids now with a boy,
Speaker 1: girl or whatever, to have those same values but also
Speaker 1: be more mindful and caring about feelings because I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, our parents and parents before them. You know,
Speaker 1: every set of parents does the best that they can.
Speaker 1: We're doing the best that we can. So our parents
Speaker 1: did the best that they can. But times change. So
Speaker 1: how can we take the positive values that we learned
Speaker 1: from our parents and parents before them, but also kind
Speaker 1: of working in a way where it's still you know,
Speaker 1: understanding of what kids need now to grow, you know,
Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally and stuff. So it's gonna be tough, yes,
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be tougher is that we're
Speaker 1: going to be like man on man coverage now. And
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that one of us might get
Speaker 1: each both both people will get frustrated because it's like,
Speaker 1: what if it's like two on or three on one,
Speaker 1: you know, and the two kids getting up against Mike.
Speaker 1: It's just like where I feel like I'm like getting
Speaker 1: no help or or him, like if you know, if
Speaker 1: I'm gone on a movie set or whatever, and he's
Speaker 1: like taking care of both kids. It's just like or
Speaker 1: the baby's screaming, Like you get so frustrated. When Julie
Speaker 1: is screaming in the back seat of the car, it's
Speaker 1: like just the more he talks to her when she
Speaker 1: she screams louder, It's like you do that too. We
Speaker 1: both have our more though, just everyone has their days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it happens when both kids are screaming, It's going to
Speaker 1: happen that I know. It gives me anxiety because I
Speaker 1: feel like it's I feel like you're gonna You're gonna
Speaker 1: be you need to like, because I'm finding my like
Speaker 1: with her scream because Jolie scream is getting real like
Speaker 1: intense now, and the more we say Julie, stop screaming,
Speaker 1: she pitches it higher. So my fear is that we're
Speaker 1: gonna have both kids screaming. Mike's going to be like
Speaker 1: by shut up, like like getting so upset that my
Speaker 1: fuse is going to go, and then it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be like I just I foresee that happening. It's a
Speaker 1: very unfair picture that's been painted the visual. What I
Speaker 1: just had was because I've also had moments where you're frustrated,
Speaker 1: you can't handle it, and I go to only when
Speaker 1: she's crying screaming, and I talked to herself and say, hey, honey,
Speaker 1: come here and do daddy, and she's done that. I
Speaker 1: think we don't have Don't you rap at that? Don't
Speaker 1: you laugh at that? I'm sorry that was when you're
Speaker 1: in you know, in bed for six eight weeks bed.
Speaker 1: Get me a slpy um. We have a psyche here today,
Speaker 1: and I'm pumped, but I'm also scared because the last
Speaker 1: time I talked to a psychic, I was actually pregnant
Speaker 1: and she said the pregnancy was going to be fine.
Speaker 1: Well that was a bad psychic. Yeah, and now we
Speaker 1: have a really really good psychic. Have you seen his
Speaker 1: stuff before? Yeah? I have, and I'm super excited. I
Speaker 1: have all kinds of questions and I want to know
Speaker 1: what's going on in your life? In my life? Is
Speaker 1: Mike staying for the psychic dose? My cup? Questions your life?
Speaker 1: Are you going to be golfing? Talked to a psychic?
Speaker 1: To my psychic told me that I should leave my husband. Well,
Speaker 1: that's really wrong. Let's hope that isn't on the docket
Speaker 1: today for her. And because I'm actually very skeptical stuff
Speaker 1: and I always come home and I'm like, I got
Speaker 1: a reading state. And this guy he knew all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I even told him like my fake name, and
Speaker 1: he's just like h And I'm like, how would he
Speaker 1: know that? Right? Yeah, I don't. I don't bite hard
Speaker 1: on that this kind of stuff. So I'll be interested
Speaker 1: to see at live and see what he has to say,
Speaker 1: because needs to get the first righting them, because I
Speaker 1: feel like, because you are the biggest skeptic, Oh for sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get the first question. Yeah, I have to tell you.
Speaker 1: I went to see a psychic about seventeen or eighteen
Speaker 1: years ago in Detroit and she told me I had
Speaker 1: just gotten engaged and so know, it was about eighteen
Speaker 1: years ago, and she said, you are going to have
Speaker 1: two rings and it was like, absolutely not. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. You are the worst psychic
Speaker 1: on the planet. And then she said, you're going to
Speaker 1: move west and then you're to move what's again, who
Speaker 1: are you going to Hawaii? That's what I thought, take
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Speaker 1: Phoenix and then I moved here. Interesting, and I'm not
Speaker 1: wearing my first ring, not that I'm planning and getting
Speaker 1: married again, but well I'm saying, you never know. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to watch here. Thomas John Michael is
Speaker 1: already has a look of just like skepticism across his face.
Speaker 1: He came in, they had to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 1: so he's doing his process and now he's gonna come
Speaker 1: back in and we're gonna give the first question sometimes
Speaker 1: like the biggest. There's a new TV series, Seatbelts Psychic
Speaker 1: with Psychic Thomas Sean, and it's going to be on Lifetime.
Speaker 1: I love Lifetime. I do too. I want Lifetime. You
Speaker 1: have to hire me again, please please store my work.
Speaker 1: It premieres on Wednesday, July eleven at ten nine central Um.
Speaker 1: I am so I'm obsessed with psychics. You know. I
Speaker 1: have all kinds of tarot cards and guide cards and
Speaker 1: weirdo kind of crystals and candles and everything at my house.
Speaker 1: I love you. I just used my intuition that I
Speaker 1: have no idea how to really read tarot cards, but
Speaker 1: I just used my intuition. Yeah. Julie tried to read
Speaker 1: my tarot cards the other day and she was like,
Speaker 1: just tarot cards. I'll bring my cards over, Julie. This
Speaker 1: is just what if you shuffled them differently? Who would
Speaker 1: have read something that was the way it was meant
Speaker 1: to be shuffled. And then she brought our crystal and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going home. I put crystals all
Speaker 1: over people's homes. Hey, did you ever put it in
Speaker 1: your who? Yeah? No, I got I've got an Amazon
Speaker 1: and I was going to order one, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, what am I doing? Yeah, aport mission. I
Speaker 1: was like, I think I'll keep the coastals out of
Speaker 1: the body up there, Lola, only I want Lola. I
Speaker 1: just got my just got my package. We're not doing
Speaker 1: me add this time. But shoot, oh, I just felt
Speaker 1: a wave come on in the studio psychic wave. So,
Speaker 1: Hi Thomas. Hello, I'm Jannah. This is producer jam This
Speaker 1: is my husband Michael um. So, I don't know how
Speaker 1: how how you work, like if you just like kind
Speaker 1: of feel what do you like? What do you just
Speaker 1: feel the room? Do you feel intuition? What is like?
Speaker 1: What's your first Well, I'm a psychic method. I'm a
Speaker 1: psychic in a medium, So I communicate with people that
Speaker 1: have passed away, and then you know, I also get
Speaker 1: feelings about things. Sense is about things, um just around people.
Speaker 1: You know. I might just get like a message for
Speaker 1: someone and somebody will say, yeah, I'm going through that,
Speaker 1: or yeah I'm I'm dealing with that, And sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't even know necessarily like who's telling him me if
Speaker 1: that's something that I'll hear really strongly. So, is there
Speaker 1: any way that you could start with my husband because
Speaker 1: he's he's never had a reading before and he's like
Speaker 1: the biggest skeptic ever. Because I've had a couple of
Speaker 1: readings and I'll go home and I'll tell him and
Speaker 1: he'll be like that's such bs and blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: So yes, yes, don't. I'll just I'll just kind of
Speaker 1: roll my eyes a little bit, because yeah, I am
Speaker 1: a skeptic and I own that. And you know, people
Speaker 1: can believe and believe what they want. That's fine. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to discriminate, but he's about to lay them
Speaker 1: Mike down, might be walking out of your tears or yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can start with what comes through it.
Speaker 1: It depends who what will come through for each person.
Speaker 1: But if you you know, if you if you're open
Speaker 1: to that, that's fine. Um I UM, so, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just want to say first off that UM, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the name Sylvia. So I don't know who
Speaker 1: that connects with, UM, but I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: relative that's passed that would be coming through. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's really somebody. I can't tell if it's
Speaker 1: somebody that you were really close to or not. But
Speaker 1: it does feel recent, so recent to me, like as
Speaker 1: in the last few years. So does that connect with somebody?
Speaker 1: My grandma Sylvia, her name is Sylvia, and so you
Speaker 1: and you you she passed in the last five years, Okay, UM,
Speaker 1: and she's talking about UM. She's definitely talking about also
Speaker 1: a new UM. There's a baby that she's talking about
Speaker 1: that she's I felt like, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is connected to you or somebody else, but I like
Speaker 1: it would be somebody that she would be bringing up. So, um,
Speaker 1: I keep hearing this, so I feel, um, she raised
Speaker 1: my sisters, Okay, And who's the letter? Who's the letter?
Speaker 1: H Is there somebody that she's referencing with the letter?
Speaker 1: Was she close to her at all? Yes? Okay. But
Speaker 1: she's also talking about that she missed a baby, So
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a baby that came like
Speaker 1: after she passed um, but I feel like she keeps
Speaker 1: talking about this, so I feel And she's also talking
Speaker 1: about um all the boys, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: she had like a group of boys at one point.
Speaker 1: Is this on your dad's side? Yeah? Is this on
Speaker 1: your dad's side? Okay? So um. You know. The other
Speaker 1: thing I just will tell you too is when I
Speaker 1: connected with you, I felt like you have a very
Speaker 1: open energy. You know, I feel like your energy is UM.
Speaker 1: I just can feel that you're a very energetically open
Speaker 1: um and I feel like you have UM abilities yourself.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you if you've ever tapped
Speaker 1: into that. I mean, I think that we're all intuitive,
Speaker 1: but I just was getting the message that you you
Speaker 1: do have abilities yourself. Um, and you could probably tune
Speaker 1: into them more if you wanted to, Like I feel
Speaker 1: you could. You could connect more with them if you did,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to, if you were open to it,
Speaker 1: you could connect more to them. UM. And I mean,
Speaker 1: have you ever felt that that you are well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I just feel like you. Um. Now, your grandmother
Speaker 1: that passed, she's also having me reference December, so this
Speaker 1: would be either a birthday connected to her when she passed, um,
Speaker 1: but she's having me referenced December. Do you understand that connection.
Speaker 1: It's definitely coming from her. So it would be like
Speaker 1: somebody she would bring up that's a birthday, or could
Speaker 1: be like when she died or I'm seeing December though. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well she showed me December, so there must be there's
Speaker 1: some significant date in that month, um, that she would
Speaker 1: be bringing up that's connected to her. It wouldn't be
Speaker 1: like the other side of your family. UM. It would
Speaker 1: be somebody that she and who's alan uncle? Okay? Is
Speaker 1: that connected to her too? Okay? Um? For some reason
Speaker 1: she's talking about Like again, sometimes they will give advice
Speaker 1: or things like that. So, Um, what I'm hearing about
Speaker 1: is is um, Um, you know what I'm hearing about
Speaker 1: is just that, um, there is How do I want
Speaker 1: to say this to you? But I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's like a separation with the side of the family
Speaker 1: or you're you're not as close to that side right
Speaker 1: now or something. Um, but I feel, um, it's interesting
Speaker 1: because your your grandmother keeps talking about two granddaughters that
Speaker 1: she was really close to. So I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: you said so, you said there was a sister of
Speaker 1: yours that she was really close to. Oh, two sisters, Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, because it kind of feels like they feel
Speaker 1: separate from you guys. So that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: If you're telling me that she kind of helps she
Speaker 1: helped with them a lot more than yeah, so that
Speaker 1: makes sense, and she kind of she keeps watching over them.
Speaker 1: I feel, Um, who's the r that I'm seeing that's
Speaker 1: around you? Is that one of your kids? Okay? Um,
Speaker 1: And she's telling me that she she got to know
Speaker 1: that person or she met that person. Okay. Um. The
Speaker 1: other thing I'm hearing about is um, yeah, so we
Speaker 1: can you know, we can see who there's other people
Speaker 1: coming through. So um, if if you're opening hearing from
Speaker 1: other people too. So I did want to start more.
Speaker 1: I was getting some more psychic stuff for for um,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what's your first name again? Mike? Okay, I
Speaker 1: was getting more some more psychic stuff from Mike. UM.
Speaker 1: So let's just kind of connect there. But UM, I
Speaker 1: did want to talk about. First off, well, there's two
Speaker 1: things coming through. First off, when I sat in the room, UM, well,
Speaker 1: hold on one okay, perfect, So, UM, so this is
Speaker 1: coming up for you, UM, A couple of things. First
Speaker 1: off is UM, well, when when I came into the room,
Speaker 1: and you know, if I if I hug people or
Speaker 1: shake their hands or if I'm in their proximity, I'll
Speaker 1: start to hear things about them. So uh. One of
Speaker 1: the things I was hearing is, UM, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of new beginnings around you this year.
Speaker 1: So I I don't know if there's like new projects
Speaker 1: you're starting or it feels like new things with your career,
Speaker 1: but I do feel like there's like new I feel
Speaker 1: a lot of new energy around you. UM. Spirits showing
Speaker 1: me my sign for I actually see UM, I actually
Speaker 1: see UM. The the image that I'm being shown is
Speaker 1: like an anchor, UM that's kind of holding you back.
Speaker 1: And now it feels like kind of breaks. So I
Speaker 1: didn't know if you're you know, if there is like
Speaker 1: new things you're trying to work on or new beginnings
Speaker 1: for you. But I felt like this was a lot
Speaker 1: with like maybe with your with business stuff, for professional stuff.
Speaker 1: But they're even telling me that it might be more
Speaker 1: holistically so it could carry over into relationships, friendships, other things.
Speaker 1: Like it kind of feels like when you look back
Speaker 1: on your life, they're saying that this year it's going
Speaker 1: to be a really, um, a really important year for you.
Speaker 1: It's gonna you know, when you look back on your life,
Speaker 1: this is a year that's going to be a big
Speaker 1: there's a big shift for you. UM. And I do
Speaker 1: feel like you're going to become more open and more
Speaker 1: aware in your life. So I just I just feel
Speaker 1: that that there's a lot of shifts for you that
Speaker 1: are really positive. And UM, you know, they're just telling me,
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of like they're celebrating this, so they're
Speaker 1: they're telling me that, um, you know, this is something
Speaker 1: that is going to be a role positive for you.
Speaker 1: UM and I'm getting like entrepreneurial stuff too, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've thought about going more in that direction. Um,
Speaker 1: but they kind of keep bringing that that that up.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because now I'm hearing your name again, so um.
Speaker 1: Usually when I hear that, um um. Usually when I
Speaker 1: hear that, it means that there would be So are
Speaker 1: you named after somebody? Um? Okay, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's weird because I'm hearing your name again and so
Speaker 1: so you already said your name's Mike. So it's weird
Speaker 1: because I'm hearing Mike Michael again. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: like it has nothing to do with that. It's like,
Speaker 1: and I have to reference that name again. Um. So
Speaker 1: you're not named after somebody? Huh. Um Okay, well I'm
Speaker 1: just going to keep that here because maybe that something
Speaker 1: that will connect with somebody else. But I keep hearing
Speaker 1: your name again, um, which makes me feel like, I
Speaker 1: don't know it's I'm hearing that name again, so there
Speaker 1: must there's another Michael that I'm supposed to reference or
Speaker 1: I don't know how it connects. Um. I will tell
Speaker 1: you it's kind of distracting. So if it's a Michael
Speaker 1: to him or a Mike too, Maybe is it a
Speaker 1: deceased Mike. Well, since you're all sitting together, it's kind
Speaker 1: of hard, you know what I'm saying, So I will
Speaker 1: tell you like it it's a little hard to you know,
Speaker 1: because it could be for you because you're right in
Speaker 1: the proximity of that person. So, UM, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: see if I get more information, because that's obviously like
Speaker 1: it's a common name, you know, um so UM, but
Speaker 1: I am. I feel like there's a distinct other reference
Speaker 1: that I have to make to Michael or Mike. Could
Speaker 1: be Michael, Michael, Mike, it's the same thing, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's another there's another name that I
Speaker 1: have to connect with that. Um. I'm also hearing um
Speaker 1: that And I just want to say this too. When
Speaker 1: I when I felt when I came in here too,
Speaker 1: I was all so feeling, um, there is a I
Speaker 1: feel a grandfather that's coming through to now this person
Speaker 1: was kind of Um it's interesting because I kind of
Speaker 1: felt like this person was more connected to you. But um,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I do feel like they have a
Speaker 1: connection to Mike here too. So it's almost like even
Speaker 1: though I feel like they're more connected to you. Um,
Speaker 1: they are more. I feel like they kind of guide
Speaker 1: both of you. But there there's this grandfather. So sometimes
Speaker 1: if people are married or things like that, you know
Speaker 1: there there can be connections and stuff. Um. I'm also
Speaker 1: getting a male energy that's coming through that pass very suddenly.
Speaker 1: So I'm getting somebody that passed really suddenly feels very abrupt. Um.
Speaker 1: It's like it feels like an abrupt thing. Um. And um,
Speaker 1: does anybody connect also to this name James or it
Speaker 1: could be Jim or Jimmy. Um, but um, there's a
Speaker 1: version of that name. Does that make sense? Jim James? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: And so is that on your is that on your
Speaker 1: mom's side? Okay? Um. I did want to tell you
Speaker 1: also that I'm feeling, Um, however, this is connected. But
Speaker 1: there there's somebody on your paternal side that I'm feeling, um,
Speaker 1: that watches over you a lot. So did you know
Speaker 1: your dad's dad? Okay, because they're they're definitely feeling that
Speaker 1: there's somebody on your dad's side. Um, because it's on
Speaker 1: the left of you. When I'm looking at you, you're
Speaker 1: right my left. So when I see so it feels
Speaker 1: like very much like a grandfather, father figure. But there's
Speaker 1: a really strong soul energy with you in this person
Speaker 1: I feel, um. And and also, um, do you understand
Speaker 1: the name Barbara? Okay? Um, so he's talking about being
Speaker 1: with Barbara. So I don't know if that's somebody that
Speaker 1: you would know, um, that he would connect with. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense to you at all? Barbara your great grandmother? Okay,
Speaker 1: so how is that connected to him? That's um? That
Speaker 1: was so my grandpa Martin was married to is Mary
Speaker 1: what was married to my grandma Denise, and that was
Speaker 1: her mom and she was abused as a kid and
Speaker 1: they had a really close relationship. Okay, So it could
Speaker 1: be somebody that would come through too. Um. The other
Speaker 1: thing I'm feeling about, by the way, are you guys collectively,
Speaker 1: like as a couple, are you guys moving, Like are
Speaker 1: you are you looking at houses or something? Because they're
Speaker 1: just telling me this, you may want to I'm just
Speaker 1: hearing this, you may want to wait or something. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling like, Um, it's not like I definitely
Speaker 1: do see you moving, but I'm feeling like, maybe wait
Speaker 1: a little bit, or there's there's something where you need
Speaker 1: to kind of hold off a little bit, um, but
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that you you are to move there, definitely
Speaker 1: there show me that you you definitely will move. Um.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to say to you too
Speaker 1: is um and I am feeling this um that your grandfather, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just the one that was coming through on
Speaker 1: your dad's side. Um, So that is your grand okay.
Speaker 1: And also I want to where is there like a
Speaker 1: junior senior. There's like two people with the same name
Speaker 1: that's on my that's Michael's side. Okay, that's Michael's dad
Speaker 1: and grandpa. Okay. See. I think also it was weird
Speaker 1: because I was getting something about you be named after somebody,
Speaker 1: but maybe I'm sort of confusing it a little bit. Maybe,
Speaker 1: so you're not named after somebody, but your your dad
Speaker 1: and your grandfather have the same name. Okay. Um, and
Speaker 1: were you were you close to your grandfather? Okay? Uh,
Speaker 1: there's I just want to ask that. But I feel
Speaker 1: like I have two people coming through with the same name,
Speaker 1: so I don't know it is so your your grandfather's
Speaker 1: passed and your grandfather's My grandfather's alive, he passed. My
Speaker 1: grandfather and my father have the same name. So my
Speaker 1: dad's a junior. Okay, and then we are considering a
Speaker 1: name for our soon to be next child that has
Speaker 1: the same initials as both my grandfather and my father.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you're naming somebody here okay. Um I'm
Speaker 1: feeling that. Um oh interesting, yeah, okay. So you are
Speaker 1: having another child okay, yeah, and then you're going to
Speaker 1: have another child they said, so yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like there's, yeah, there's another child after that. Um,
Speaker 1: it's not twins, right okay, yeah, no, because they're saying
Speaker 1: there's another child that I say, that's like one more
Speaker 1: and then there's going to be another more. Um. I
Speaker 1: do feel also though that went one second hold on
Speaker 1: Uh okay, I understand, so give us the badness. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling also that, um with you with your
Speaker 1: grandfather that passed it, I don't feel like he passed recently, right,
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, it's been a while. And do you
Speaker 1: ever have dreams with him? Okay? Yeah, because he's making
Speaker 1: me feel like he he actually does come in your
Speaker 1: dreams or he he's done that before, he pops in
Speaker 1: your dreams or something. Um. And I feel like when
Speaker 1: I'm connecting with him that you know, that's that's just
Speaker 1: one of the things that he's telling me that he
Speaker 1: you know, he likes to do. Um. And it's just
Speaker 1: a way for him to stay you know, connected to you.
Speaker 1: He's able to stay connected to you. And um, you
Speaker 1: know watch over you that way, Um, we have you know,
Speaker 1: people will have dreams or visitations or things like that. Um.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times that is just a way
Speaker 1: for loved ones to let us know I am with you,
Speaker 1: I see you, I'm I'm visiting you and stuff like that. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm also yeah, um now I'm also getting a message
Speaker 1: about interesting. Also, somebody keeps showing me more of the South.
Speaker 1: I don't know, is there are the people from the
Speaker 1: South or people that live more in the South. We
Speaker 1: were wanting to move back to the South? Okay um.
Speaker 1: And another thing I'm hearing about, Hold on one second,
Speaker 1: okay um. They yeah, your grandfather that I was connecting
Speaker 1: with on your dad's side, the one in the Barbara.
Speaker 1: But I'm getting this from your grandfather. Um. He's they
Speaker 1: keep telling me it's time you for you to write
Speaker 1: your book. UM. So I don't know if you have
Speaker 1: a book idea and you just keep putting it off
Speaker 1: for something. On it feels I'm seeing like I see
Speaker 1: things that are already written, so maybe it's stuff that
Speaker 1: you just have to kind of put together. But I
Speaker 1: keep getting that that you're supposed there's a books that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to work on, and it's like you're supposed
Speaker 1: to complete it. I feel so it feels to me
Speaker 1: like if you're if you're open to that and if
Speaker 1: that's something that you'd like to do, um, I feel
Speaker 1: like there's going to be a big opportunity with that,
Speaker 1: or just it feels more like they're, you know, they're
Speaker 1: encouraging you with that and stuff. So um, I feel
Speaker 1: like if you're you know, you're, if you have thought
Speaker 1: about doing that, then it's something that I feel. I
Speaker 1: just feel there's a lot of momentum around it. So
Speaker 1: thank yousiate it felt psychic Wednesday's July eleven at ten
Speaker 1: nine Central on Lifetime. Oh my god. Okay, so by
Speaker 1: the way, Mike just left, by the way, but I
Speaker 1: think he like, he definitely got some stuff out of it.
Speaker 1: I think because he looked at me a couple of
Speaker 1: times and was like, whoa, whoa, I do see me crying,
Speaker 1: I did. I I just have I have. I had
Speaker 1: the best relationship with my um, with my dad's dad,
Speaker 1: my Grandpa Martin. And so the very first time I
Speaker 1: ever had a psychic reading, UM, the psychic had told
Speaker 1: me that my grandpa was basically my angel. And he
Speaker 1: I mean, my Grandpa Martin was I've always said as
Speaker 1: my angel. Like when I was sick, basically dying in Romania. UM,
Speaker 1: it's a long story, but you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: like what he was saying, like the dreams. My mom
Speaker 1: was sitting in the hospital room with me in Bucharest, Romania,
Speaker 1: and when I woke up, she's like, do you remember
Speaker 1: your conversation? And I was like what conversation? She's like,
Speaker 1: you were talking to Grandpa Martin. And it's like I
Speaker 1: have like those things where like I just he appears
Speaker 1: and I talked to him, but I don't remember it,
Speaker 1: like I just know that like he was there. Um,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I vividly remember like having him in my dreams.
Speaker 1: But so I've always just like and ever since that
Speaker 1: psychic my first Seychick reading, when they said that you know,
Speaker 1: my dad's dad was my angel, I just have always
Speaker 1: felt it. So That's why I like and I know
Speaker 1: that too because when I prayed to my grandpa just
Speaker 1: to basically take me away, because that was when I
Speaker 1: was in the abusive relationship with Mike, and so when
Speaker 1: he kept saying, Mike, I was just like and basically
Speaker 1: remember he kept saying and I said, because it was
Speaker 1: like he was like it was a bad situation. And
Speaker 1: and he said that your grandpa kept trying to like
Speaker 1: shoot him away, because my grandpa was basically who in
Speaker 1: my opinion, and what I've always believed is that, you know,
Speaker 1: the night before my ex tried to kill me, he
Speaker 1: I prayed to my grandpa and I said, Grandpa, please
Speaker 1: just take me away. I don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget, like when Mike was trying to
Speaker 1: kill me, like I saw my Grandpa and I basically
Speaker 1: saw him like watching over me. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I obviously lived, but like he's always been my angel.
Speaker 1: And so every time like someone brings up my grandmama,
Speaker 1: and I get so like, bless you, I get so emotional,
Speaker 1: and um, I had a reading from another psychic like
Speaker 1: a while ago, and my Grandpa didn't come in, and
Speaker 1: I was really sad. I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: I guess like he just knows that, like he's here,
Speaker 1: and I don't like need to like you need the validation.
Speaker 1: I don't need the validation anymore. But then when that
Speaker 1: came up, I mean, Mike immediately looked at me and
Speaker 1: I was just like flooded with tears because I just like,
Speaker 1: we just had such an incredible connection. So and then
Speaker 1: he had passed the same year my parents got divorced,
Speaker 1: so it was just like it was a tough year.
Speaker 1: It was ninth grade good times. But yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was that, and then the whole mic thing. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: Mike was trying to come in stark energy, but that's
Speaker 1: never happened. So but I mean he got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff out of you too, Yeah, which is like
Speaker 1: such a random name too. I was going, can't make
Speaker 1: that up, You can't, you can't make that up. And
Speaker 1: it was actually her birthday June that it was just recent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was just fascinating that she was the first
Speaker 1: person to come through. Yeah, it's like you just can't
Speaker 1: make that kind of stuff. I was like blown away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, how how can someone again, I
Speaker 1: understand people to have skepticisms, and sometimes I do too,
Speaker 1: But how do you just randomly come up with that name?
Speaker 1: You don't it's exactly Sylvia, Sylvia Sylvia, Like it's not
Speaker 1: like Jennifer's or Jennifer like, yeah it's Jennifer, It's Sylvia Sylvia.
Speaker 1: And then the boys, Yeah I got the R. I
Speaker 1: was like, I know, I know, but I do want
Speaker 1: to say, though, um, now that he told you that
Speaker 1: you have your psychic abilities to maybe you should read
Speaker 1: my cards Psychic Jen in the House. And that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I think he was legit. I he's totally legit,
Speaker 1: and I kind of can't I can't wait Seatbelt Psychic.
Speaker 1: I mean it's fun. I can't wait to watch it.
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to talk to him because I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, especially since we just announced our pregnancy, you know,
Speaker 1: it to be good for two fathers to chat, you
Speaker 1: know out Yeah, and then it's like you have a
Speaker 1: boy and so, um, I don't know, I just feel
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Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, he wrote this incredible book.
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't he didn't have a father grown up.
Speaker 1: So now you know, now he has set a great
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Speaker 1: aware in present and then sharing what he's learned. I
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Speaker 1: because um, we have a daughter, but we have another
Speaker 1: one on the way. And thanks. But I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about your book because and I literally left it on
Speaker 1: the side table. He's like, honey, is this a hint?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, you're gonna read it and you're
Speaker 1: gonna ask your questions. And because it's like I just
Speaker 1: because fatherhood there's I mean it's for me and it's
Speaker 1: like motherhood. I know, it's differently. He's got his own
Speaker 1: fears with so I'm just like curious your journey with
Speaker 1: through everything that you've gone through. I mean it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's a never ending journey, right, Kids get older and
Speaker 1: go through different phases. Um, but yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: just felt I had a moment with my son a
Speaker 1: few years ago that caused me to reflect on my life,
Speaker 1: you know, having grown up without a father and a
Speaker 1: question had growing up without a father, had that some
Speaker 1: crept into my fatherhood, you know, And and just that
Speaker 1: I thought, just made me reflect and you know, and
Speaker 1: then I ended up writing this stuff out because ultimately
Speaker 1: I want to use my story as a tool of inspiration. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's time. It's a timely thing when
Speaker 1: we see how, you know, what's going on in society
Speaker 1: right now now in terms of you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of the black community. You know, yeah, we've we've made
Speaker 1: a lot of strides, you know, but in terms of
Speaker 1: family and fatherhood. But you know, I'm out there in
Speaker 1: the streets and with the eye test this it's we
Speaker 1: got a lot more work to do, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So, how does your son? Okay, what's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing that you've like, what what's the biggest thing
Speaker 1: for you that you're teaching him right now? Especially attend
Speaker 1: such an impressionable age. The biggest thing what? Um, just
Speaker 1: get Well, I mean, you know, he's a he's a
Speaker 1: great kid, and and just getting him the um you know,
Speaker 1: I want him to find his passion, which I think
Speaker 1: he kind of knows what he you know, saying what
Speaker 1: he wants to do with air quotes, but like find
Speaker 1: that thing that anchors him, you know, that that that
Speaker 1: he truly feels connected to, because you can start building out,
Speaker 1: you know, from there. And like for me, I've been
Speaker 1: dreaming about what I do since I was twelve, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And and I sort of my
Speaker 1: life structured itself towards that. So that's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: one of the main things. Um. And just you know,
Speaker 1: to be a good person, you know, clean up after yourself.
Speaker 1: You know, when did you realize that you were missing
Speaker 1: though from your childhood, not having that father figure around
Speaker 1: that you thought you needed to really like make sure
Speaker 1: it was there for your son. I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: I missed that sort of familial structure, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of you can have holidays, thanksgives
Speaker 1: and all that, but like you know, um, some people
Speaker 1: do movie nights, you know, Friday and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Like this stuff that I had to catch up to
Speaker 1: to realize it's long term worth. Um, because you know,
Speaker 1: we work a lot of hours with grinding. You know,
Speaker 1: you get home, you're just tired sometimes, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, no, you gotta you gotta put
Speaker 1: it in with your kids as much as you can.
Speaker 1: Because a nineteen year old fortsen year old ten year old.
Speaker 1: The years go back quickly. It's like, WHOA, I have
Speaker 1: a question. I like what you said about your like
Speaker 1: your ten year old, like allowing him to find his passion.
Speaker 1: You know, that's something where you know, obviously I feel
Speaker 1: like in the world that you're in the entertainment world,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that's your plan eight through Z right.
Speaker 1: You kind of gotta put all all in to get
Speaker 1: going to get successful. Um. At least that was my mindset.
Speaker 1: I played in the NFL for for a little while,
Speaker 1: so my mindset was like NFL or nothing. So when
Speaker 1: you're you know, raising your your children and you want
Speaker 1: them to follow their dreams and their passion. But then
Speaker 1: that logic of just life in the back of your
Speaker 1: mind about going through experiences of being like, well, I
Speaker 1: still want you to get your degree here, I still
Speaker 1: want it, Like how are you finding that with like
Speaker 1: follow your passion, but also kind of be safe in
Speaker 1: that sense, Like how how are you supporting because we disagree.
Speaker 1: Come Like, I didn't go to college. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to fall back. I don't want to plan be And
Speaker 1: he's like, no, our children are going to college. I'm like,
Speaker 1: well they're gonna be like more mom didn't and she's successful.
Speaker 1: So it's like but but I mean, well, I think
Speaker 1: you know they still have to build um. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm really focused on education, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: with them when it comes to that. To me, that's
Speaker 1: sort of the that balances it out. You know, you
Speaker 1: got to get education, you know, and don't just go
Speaker 1: to college, Like what do you want to do? You know,
Speaker 1: really getting them and there and there's so many things
Speaker 1: around that, right Like it's like, for you play in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're one of how many people are gonna
Speaker 1: get to play in the NFL compared to how many
Speaker 1: kids play Pop Warner playing high school, playing college, Like
Speaker 1: so that's a chosen few. But even within that, there's
Speaker 1: so many other things you can do. You know, if
Speaker 1: you don't make it as a play or maybe you
Speaker 1: could be a coach, maybe you can be a training
Speaker 1: making you can actually build a life around this. Thing
Speaker 1: that you love, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: whatever genre that is whatever, not genre, but sector my
Speaker 1: kids would want to go into, like you know, one
Speaker 1: of them, the oldest one, she wants to be an educator.
Speaker 1: The next youngest she wants to be a triple threat.
Speaker 1: Beyont that and then for now at least, you know,
Speaker 1: my son he wants to I think he wants to
Speaker 1: be an engineer, like he's you know, bill roller coasters.
Speaker 1: But he's serious and I'm like, you know, when he
Speaker 1: was young, I'm like, okay, you can You're gonna be
Speaker 1: an engineer and he's like, nah, I want to do this.
Speaker 1: Does he like riding them? Riding them? We we have
Speaker 1: a thing where we're go on the front and back
Speaker 1: just to feel that okay, but he's really interested in, Wow,
Speaker 1: why how come it felt more like this at that turn?
Speaker 1: But when we're on the back, it feels like that
Speaker 1: process right there exactly. I think. What I'm curious now too,
Speaker 1: is um, you know from Michael, like if we were
Speaker 1: to have a boy, um, you know, because he's gotta go.
Speaker 1: We got the girl thing down, like we have a
Speaker 1: two year old daughter. But for if we do have
Speaker 1: a boy, It's like, where's the line between between being
Speaker 1: too hard and then also letting the boys show emotion too,
Speaker 1: because I sometimes fear that like he's going to be
Speaker 1: you know, that real tough, like you don't show emotion.
Speaker 1: But it's like I want my child to be sensitive
Speaker 1: and to have so I would just love like your
Speaker 1: take on. I mean, you can't stop a child from
Speaker 1: showing emotion even if you try to. Who they will
Speaker 1: and guys usually say stop crying your your boy, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but they need you know, they kind of need that.
Speaker 1: Just want them to be, you know, a little tough
Speaker 1: because I think, like right now, and it's just my opinion,
Speaker 1: like we live in a really overly sensitive society. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we got to go back to like
Speaker 1: super old school, like when we didn't wear seatbelts bring yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, you know, you're putting all the pads
Speaker 1: and the thing, and it's just is that just to
Speaker 1: let the key go outside. It's like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: we baby these kids too much because and I tell
Speaker 1: my kids, I'm like, look, life is harsh, and all
Speaker 1: my discipline is coming from love, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And you you know you might not like it in
Speaker 1: certain moments, but that's how you learn. I will always
Speaker 1: have your best interests at heart. The world don't care
Speaker 1: about you. So by the time you grow up and
Speaker 1: you know, especially the young black kids, Hey, you're getting
Speaker 1: pulled over by the cop. You don't even know. You know,
Speaker 1: we see what's going on. So we have to teach
Speaker 1: the kids at home. It all starts at home so
Speaker 1: that they don't make mistakes they can't come back from
Speaker 1: once they're out in the world, you know what I mean. See,
Speaker 1: that's that's so tough. Like I know, I'm getting ahead
Speaker 1: of myself. You have kids that are of age that
Speaker 1: it might that probably are dealing with this the difference
Speaker 1: between political correctness but also expressing their their own point
Speaker 1: of view or their feelings around something. It's like knowing
Speaker 1: when to teach them, like hey, when to follow the
Speaker 1: rules right and just kind of like keep your mouth shut.
Speaker 1: I know you might have feelings. I know you might
Speaker 1: have an opinion about this, but then also there's other
Speaker 1: times where it's like no, speak your mind right, you know,
Speaker 1: telling how you feel right. So have you had to
Speaker 1: deal with that, especially with you, like your nineteen year
Speaker 1: old maybe experience in life a little bit more. Is
Speaker 1: there anything around that? I mean, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: great question to um. I think it's it's knowing, it's
Speaker 1: knowing the playing field. I mean with these kids, now,
Speaker 1: there's when they're speaking out, you know, against social injustice
Speaker 1: or what have you. They're doing it from what I see,
Speaker 1: mostly as a collective, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: if they want to bring an issue to their school,
Speaker 1: they come together and sort of voice that point. Whereas
Speaker 1: you know, if you're just in the supermarket, you know,
Speaker 1: and some random things happened, that's probably not the place
Speaker 1: you shoot that, you know what I mean. Just keep
Speaker 1: it moving. Um. But we I mean, it's a it
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows. The ebbs and flows, and I think
Speaker 1: it's at least what I'm discovering it. It is. It's
Speaker 1: like different phases because the fourteen year old is more
Speaker 1: in tune with certain things. The nineteen year old was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, and then the ten year olds thinking about
Speaker 1: what he's thinking about. You know, how do you handle
Speaker 1: technology and social media in your house? Man? Can you
Speaker 1: even handle it? Can't handle it? Them? Thirty four years old?
Speaker 1: I mean, we just try, you know, that's definitely the
Speaker 1: first thing for punishment, and it really affects them. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: If you take one of their phones, it's like withdrawal,
Speaker 1: you know what i mean. I mean we're all getting
Speaker 1: that hit from our phones every day. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the the nineteen year old is like whatever because she's
Speaker 1: a little older, so you know, it's just mostly texting stuff.
Speaker 1: But the fourteen year old is like Instagram snapshot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, but don't text me when you're down
Speaker 1: the hallway. We're not doing that. Come down the hallway
Speaker 1: and talk to me. And then my son. It's interesting
Speaker 1: my son really it's just YouTube, that's just in games.
Speaker 1: Does he play games? He's not. None of them are
Speaker 1: really into like video games, which I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: we got we got one that way because you know,
Speaker 1: I got friends with it. Kids. Literally it just stuck
Speaker 1: for like hours upon the hours of an hour. So
Speaker 1: in that way, we kind of that's good because we
Speaker 1: like to engage your kids. We do a lot of
Speaker 1: creative stuff with him. So they like to do things
Speaker 1: like physically handle lying, handle lying. Yeah, Like if your
Speaker 1: kids lie to you, like do you or do you
Speaker 1: give them every opportunity to tell you the truth and
Speaker 1: maybe like a lesser punishment or do you or like
Speaker 1: if you find out that you catch them in a lie,
Speaker 1: like is it It kind of depends on It depends
Speaker 1: on the situation, because like, like my wife, she's gonna
Speaker 1: let you play yourself. She's gonna keep stringing you along
Speaker 1: and along and then bam you get you know. But
Speaker 1: really I just talked to them like why, like what
Speaker 1: was it? We were all kids once, Like most of
Speaker 1: the time, it's so stupid. It's like not some big
Speaker 1: conspiracy thing that they were doing something. It's just like
Speaker 1: why would you lie about that? You know? And I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like that, like to save the good ones
Speaker 1: when you really need. That's where I'm going a problem,
Speaker 1: the line of walking between being friends and also being
Speaker 1: a parent, Like because you want to be their friend,
Speaker 1: you want them to come to you and say like
Speaker 1: I screwed up, you know, But then they're also scared.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's such a good mind to walk.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm I tell my kids all
Speaker 1: the time, I'm like, look, I'm figuring this thing out
Speaker 1: just like you are. You know. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I've never really had that we're infallible because I don't
Speaker 1: have all that, you know, And I tell them like, look,
Speaker 1: I've never been the father of the nineteenyear rule for
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm human like you. You know, I
Speaker 1: might make mistakes too, you know, but I know, I
Speaker 1: know I have the blueprint to certain things because I
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Speaker 1: that and take where you get from your mom and
Speaker 1: you figure out your own system, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But again, going back to my you know, it's always
Speaker 1: coming from love. I'm like, no one's ever gonna love
Speaker 1: you like I love you because I'm the father, you know.
Speaker 1: But at the same token, no matter how much I
Speaker 1: love you, I can't walk in your shoes, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I try to empower them that way,
Speaker 1: like lead yourself. I like that. I like the transparency
Speaker 1: you're talking about, about, you know, admitting to your kids like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't have all the answers, And I think that
Speaker 1: goes farther than maybe it might sound, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that creates safety like for them, right, because I know,
Speaker 1: like my biggest thing is like my parents always seemed
Speaker 1: like they had every all the answers and everything was right,
Speaker 1: And so if I didn't do things the way they wanted,
Speaker 1: maybe I would lie about it because I was in
Speaker 1: fear of the consequences or because it wasn't the way
Speaker 1: they did things. But knowing that you're being like transparent
Speaker 1: and vulnerable with them, I make up that it has
Speaker 1: to show like you know that then that they can
Speaker 1: be okay with coming to you and talking about it.
Speaker 1: And what what made you? I mean, obviously of an
Speaker 1: incredible story, but for your book? What was that you
Speaker 1: just you just knew you had to write a book too,
Speaker 1: to get your story out and to kind of inspire others.
Speaker 1: And no, I just I came home and this is
Speaker 1: in the introduction of book, but I could just tell
Speaker 1: you here. You know, I came home one day at
Speaker 1: worked for like fourteen I was so tired. Yeah I'm
Speaker 1: on shooting now, but this is yea um, but this
Speaker 1: was what I was doing house and you know, it
Speaker 1: was just one of those nights I'm just tired. I
Speaker 1: just want to turn on the television, vegi out and
Speaker 1: go to sleep, and my son was about to then,
Speaker 1: and so, you know, my wife was like, you go
Speaker 1: play with him. He's still up, Like I'm here, right,
Speaker 1: I'm literally I thought like, at least he has And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this, I'm just saying this is real,
Speaker 1: Like I'm here physically your present, but you weren't completely
Speaker 1: president and that that moment, you know, I you know,
Speaker 1: obviously went upstairs and played with him, but I started reflected.
Speaker 1: I was just like, why did I How did I
Speaker 1: have that thought? Like I love myself more than anything
Speaker 1: as well, right, And I just was like, what is
Speaker 1: that about? And that's such a cool like it just
Speaker 1: spurred this whole Oh wow, maybe I'm missing certain things
Speaker 1: about fatherhood because I grew up without a father, you know,
Speaker 1: and as I started to explore my own story, it
Speaker 1: just sort of came about until I'm writing a book. Now.
Speaker 1: Well it's amazing. I thank you Omar so much for
Speaker 1: coming in and you know, sharing this with us. He's
Speaker 1: got his book out, from Fatherless to Fatherhood, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get a lot of good stuff out of it,
Speaker 1: so great read, inspirational for sure, at least for me
Speaker 1: as a new father and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you put it out there, man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Really think it makes you think about what you have
Speaker 1: in your toolbox yourself. Well it's a good thing too,
Speaker 1: because I come home and it's like, you know, we
Speaker 1: can we get lost in our phones sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: our daughters right there. It's like to be present, be
Speaker 1: you know, be there. So thank you, thank you, thank
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Speaker 1: I know it's tough, and i know it's super hard
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Speaker 1: it's so incredible to have somebody who understands. Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. Well, I cannot wait to chat with you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for wanting down with me. I
Speaker 1: love you guys so much, and I'll see you July nine.