1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, Peezza, and welcome to okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording once again from the 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: Home Bunker. Folks, It's been a while since I've been 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: able to talk to you about recent current events, and 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: so I really hope that you have all enjoyed the 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: content that we have had coming through while I took 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: a little break for my birthday, and thank you all 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: so very much for your well wishes. They mean the 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: world to me, so I really appreciate that, folks. So 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: let's start off with a couple of things coming up 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: in my conversation today. We're going to speak with our friend, 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: the good doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. But before we get 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: to that episode, I really want to reflect on where 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: we stand right now with the midterm elections, and I 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: want to lift up something because I think that too 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: off and you guys know me very well. Too often 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: we use our victories as speed bumps and kind of 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: zip over them onto the next thing, and I really 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: want us to be very reflective in this moment, this 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: historical moment that we just went through with the largest 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: turnout for a midterm election we have ever had in 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: this country, with generation z the eighteen to thirty year 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: old swath of the electorate turning out in numbers that 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: no one predicted. I also want to talk about the 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: fact that, much like I've been saying since the beginning 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: of time, poles are bullshit. The only polls that matter 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: are the ones that you walk inside of. And so 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: case in point, the poles were telling us that we 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: were going to expect a red wave, a red tsunami, 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Democrats were going to be decimated, and everything was going 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: to go to shit and be horrible, and that voters 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: didn't care about abortion, they only cared about the economy. 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: And so why did Democrats spend all this time talking 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: about democracy an abortion when clearly they should have just 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: been talking about the economy. Well, we hear on wok 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: af know that motherfuckers can walk and chew gum at 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: the same time, but evidently they don't think that in 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: mainstream media. So here's the reality. The reality is is 39 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, the leader of the Democratic Party, the 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: President of the United States, has been fucking delivering. I 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: will be the first, second, third, and fifth person to 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: say so, because I have no problem calling out this 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: administration when they fall short so I certainly am going 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: to raise my hands into a series of applause. Bravo, bitch, 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: you did it. Here's the thing. Joe Biden on the 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: campaign trail told us that he was going to relieve 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: student loan debt. He did it. He told us that 48 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: he was going to have the biggest role out of vaccinations. 49 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: He did that. He told us that he was going 50 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: to invest in infrastructure. He did that as well. He 51 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: told us that he was going to reduce the cost 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: of prescription drugs. He did that as well. He also 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: told us that he was going to fight for the 54 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: soul of this nation, and he's been doing it since 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: he entered into office on the heels of an insurrection. 56 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, regardless of his missteps and his misquotes, and 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the fact that people think that he should be running 58 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: and skipping every time he steps in front of a podium, 59 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: or the fact that they think that he should be 60 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: thirty five years old and not eighty, Joe Biden has 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: been doing the goddamn thing since he entered into the 62 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: sewer that is the Washington DC, and since he took 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: over from the corrupt, twice impeached criminal ass motherfucker Donald Trump, 64 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: who probably by the time that you listen to this 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: recording will have announced his third run at the presidency 66 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: because he uses the presidency as his get out of 67 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: jail free card and not because he actually gives a 68 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: fuck about this country or how to advance it, because 69 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: he did none of those things when he was in 70 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: office the first fucking time, which is why the American people, 71 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: unlike the Republican Party, gave him the fucking boot. Nonetheless, 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: I want us to recognize that the media has it 73 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: out for Joe Biden, has it out for the Democratic Party. 74 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Why do I say that because following the midterm elections, 75 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: and following the results that we knew were coming in, 76 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: you saw headlines like the New York Times saying that, 77 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: oh my god, Republicans pick up critical states and critical 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: seats and critical states. That was so at a step 79 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: with the historic nature of the turnout right of this 80 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: midterm election that they had to redo their the fucking 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: headline because that's how many people call them out on 82 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: their bullshit. You have people right now, some seven hundred 83 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: days until the presidential election, talking about the fact that 84 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is too old, or asking the question, is 85 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden too old? Because here's the thing. It's not 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: enough that Joe Biden is delivering more than previous presidents, 87 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: frankly have delivered, but that they can't find anything good 88 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: to write, because that's not what gets them their subscriptions, 89 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: that's not what gets them their clicks, and because they 90 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: have been browbeat by the far right, they want to 91 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: make sure that their neutrality looks like either not covering 92 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the president when he's giving groundbreaking speeches or making sure 93 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: that you remember how fucking old he is, because for 94 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: some reason he's hiding it. He's not. Here's the thing, folks, 95 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the leader of our party. He is 96 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: the leader of this country, and frankly, he is doing 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: a real fucking bang up job with the shit sandwich 98 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: that he was delivered following Donald Trump's presidency or whatever 99 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: you want to call it. And I am so tired 100 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: of mainstream media, and frankly, I hope at some point 101 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: in time there is some multibillionaire on our side that 102 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: wants to create a social media platform or take over 103 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: a radio outlet that actually gives voice to real people 104 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: with real thoughts and opinions, as opposed to what we 105 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: have been forced forced to ingest over the course of 106 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: multiple election cycles that if the mainstream media had it 107 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: their way, this country would be up in smoke, just 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: so that they could sell more fucking papers. Like I'm 109 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: just so sick to death of the bullshit right and 110 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: if this past election, and the fact that I did 111 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: not watch cable news at all, all I did was 112 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: read what was happening, because to watch cable news would 113 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: have been like me turning on ESPN, And why would 114 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I do that? Because I'm not a sports person, so 115 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: why would I do that. All they did was cover 116 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: this very consequential midterm election like it was any other 117 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: election or a fucking horse race, neither of which were true. 118 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: And so had it been up to them, we would 119 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: be in a different place, having a whole different kind 120 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: of conversation, probably from a real bunker in an undisclosed 121 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: location in an undisclosed country. So I want us to 122 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: take in this moment to pat ourselves on the back 123 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: to big up young people who showed up in mass 124 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: when folks said that, oh they don't care about voting, 125 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: they absolutely fucking do. Because here's the thing that I 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: want folks, to wrap their mind around when it comes 127 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: to Generation Z. Generation Z has been doing active shooter 128 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: drills since they were children, since they were placed into 129 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: the K through twelfth school system. That's their reality. They 130 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: haven't been dealing with the quote unquote impending climate crisis. 131 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: They've been dealing with the climate crisis as a regular 132 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: part of their day to day life. They don't harken 133 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: back to the days where you know, November used to 134 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: be cold, and the fact that you know, on my birthday, 135 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: for instance, November tenth, it was seventy degrees in New York, seventy. 136 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: For the last several birthdays that I've had it has 137 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: been either in the high sixties or low seventies. That's 138 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: not normal. Generation Z, however, doesn't know anything different than 139 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: that because that's the world that they're inheriting. So if 140 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: we think that they're just going to sit back and 141 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, allow what past generations have done, which is 142 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: to ignore the needs of young people and think that 143 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: their voices don't matter. Will this generation in this midterm 144 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: election said go fuck yourselves, Republicans, and I, for one 145 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: say bravo, young people, bravo. So there is that The 146 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: other thing folks, is I want to bring attention to 147 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: a deep, deep, deep travesty that I will give more 148 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: attention to in the coming weeks, which is the fact 149 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: that the Iranian authoritarian regime, following the courageous and amazing 150 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: protests of women against the killing right of a young 151 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: woman who was killed because of improper head covering and 152 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: which sparked a revolution led by young women in this country, well, 153 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime has arrested over fifteen thousand young people, academics, professors, 154 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: and what have you, and they're sentencing them all to death. 155 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: And there is not a fucking blaz that I have 156 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: heard from mainstream media in a call of outrage and 157 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: humanitarian concern about the genocide that is getting ready to 158 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: be committed at the hands of Iran. There has got 159 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: to be some things that are more important than fucking 160 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: oil in this country, and it should be the lives 161 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: of fifteen thousand young people, young women, who risk their 162 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: lives to give voice to freedom. And we cannot as 163 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: a world right and as a world power, sit by 164 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: and think that this is just acceptable, that silence is 165 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: acceptable at this time. It is not. So. Whatever platform, 166 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: dear friends, that you have whether it is Instagram or 167 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: this gumster heap that is now Twitter, please use it 168 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: to elevate what is happening in Iran, what is happening 169 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: to these young people, so that the message can at 170 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: least spread virally via social media. So maybe our mainstream 171 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: media will open up their fucking eyes and use their 172 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: platforms to exercise the power that they have in the 173 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: way that they've done for the people of Ukraine. I 174 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: would love to see it all right. Coming up next 175 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: my conversation with our friend, the good, good doctor, doctor 176 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Metzel. Folks, you know that whenever we have the 177 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with our in house doctor, doctor 178 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Metzel, we are always thrilled. Jonathan. I'm excited to 179 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: come back and chat with you as our doomsday predictions 180 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: did not manifest And you know, I will say for 181 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: myself that I had since stopped believing in the polls, 182 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: and I told people who listened to WOKA have to 183 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: stop believing in the polls and believe in what you see, 184 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: so show up, show up in mass But I wanted 185 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: to get your reflections first on New York. You know 186 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: where you spend half your time time and where I am. 187 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: And then in general, as we're still at the time 188 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: of this recording waiting for some House seats to come in, 189 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: but know that Democrats control the Senate and we still 190 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: have the runoff for Warnock and Walker. Well, I mean, 191 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: certainly there is a pleasure of expecting the worse and 192 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: then not having it be as bad as you thought 193 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: it was going to be. And so in this sense, 194 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: all the doomsday neurosis, I embrace it because imagine if 195 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: we thought things would have been better and then they 196 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: turned out to be worse. And so the psychology of 197 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: doomsdays is I will gladly say that things are not 198 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: as dire as we thought they were going to be. 199 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Last week when we talked where it was kind of 200 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: like what other country will accept our passport kind of thing, 201 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: And so first I will just say that part of 202 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: the issue is that people showed up. Eighteen to thirty 203 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: old showed up. People were afraid of what was the 204 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: implications were, and they were undaunted and voted very bravely, 205 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: I think. But I would say so I'm admitting that 206 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: things are better than we thought they were going to be. 207 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: But I would also say that all these talks of 208 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Trump's demise seemed awfully premature to me, honestly. So I'll 209 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: talk about New York in a second. But I would 210 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: also say, just having studied Trump and Trump supporters for 211 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: so long, all these people that think because Rupert Murdoch 212 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: is turning against Trump, but that means the end of Trump, 213 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I would it'll be interesting 214 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: to see. I think today, when we're filming this, he's 215 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: going to announce his candidacy or something like that. Like 216 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: this guy is a master of mobilizing his followers and 217 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: turning what seems like defeat everybody for everybody else into victory. 218 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: And I also think control of the Congress is a 219 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: pretty big deal because Congress controls the budget, it controls 220 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: it controls everything else. And so so I just think, 221 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I just think there's enough to be you know, we're 222 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of a struggle right now. But I 223 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: would say that all these victory laps are great for him. 224 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Five minutes and let's get let's get back to work 225 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: is part of the story. Now. Well, before you go, 226 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: before you go into New York, I want to say 227 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: one that I believe that Donald Trump is a fucking gremlin. 228 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think that there is anything that 229 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: is going to have Donald Trump go away unless Merritt 230 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Garland decides that he's actually going to prosecute Donald Trump 231 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: for the myriad of crimes that he has committed both 232 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: before he was president, while he was president, and since 233 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: being twice impeached and removed from office via the vote 234 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So, to me, Donald Trump is going 235 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: he is the whack a mole of Republican politics because 236 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: he's going to keep returning if, in fact, he is 237 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: not rooted out. The only way that that happens, it's 238 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: not going to be by the Republican Party turning on him. 239 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: It's not going to be by Rupert Murdichton turning on him. 240 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: It's going to be that he's facing a trial and prison. 241 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: That's the only thing to me that is going to 242 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: have Donald Trump go away. That's one two. In terms 243 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: of like the victory, I think that this is actually 244 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: a much bigger victory and needs to act, needs to 245 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: be used as fuel for us going into the twenty 246 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: twenty four presidential election cycle. Once again, the posters were wrong. 247 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: Once again, we were wrong in terms of what we 248 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: thought that Generation Z was going to do. This is 249 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: a generation that has grown up with active shooter drills, 250 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: that has grown up knowing that the climate crisis is 251 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: literally breathing down their backs, has grown up with one 252 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: trauma and tragedy after the next, and they are tired 253 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: of it, right, and they and they voted and use 254 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: their voice in a way that once again we as 255 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: older people had said, Oh, they're not going to show up. 256 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Oh they don't vote, Oh they don't do this, and 257 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: they're saying to us, watch us, right, And so I 258 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: want to applaud one Generation Z, but also applaud Americans 259 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: who turned out in historic numbers. This was a midterm election. 260 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: We don't get these types of numbers in the United 261 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: States from midterm elections. And so I don't want to 262 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: just like speed bump over this as if it isn't 263 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: something that is worthy of the historical moment that we're 264 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: in because of what people have done to recognize that, Yeah, 265 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: all of the things that the media outlets wanted to 266 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: tell us that people didn't care about are actually the 267 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: reasons why they went to the polls and went to 268 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: the polls in mass So I don't want to just 269 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: like say okay, great, good job, and now like everything 270 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: is still dire. Obviously we know that, right, But I 271 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: want to applaud Americans for their consciousness. I want to 272 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: applaud them for waking up and turning out in a 273 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: way that we don't see outside of a presidential election. 274 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: And that's how consequential they found this midterm election to 275 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: democracy and to their daily lives. A million percent agree, 276 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: I mean the level of the level of engagement. And 277 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: also it's funny because I teach college. That's where I 278 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: am right now, and I told my college students in 279 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: class yesterday two things. I said. First of all, thank 280 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: you guys for saving democracy, because I think really college 281 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: students and college age people and people in the kind 282 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: of in that age demographic see the country being led 283 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: the wrong way by grown ups, and they saved us. 284 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: And they care about things that you know, octagenarians don't 285 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: seem to care that much about, like climate change and 286 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: gun violence and things like that. But I also told 287 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: them disinformation is a pretty powerful tool, and get ready 288 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: for it to be directed at you, because because the 289 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: way that this tool works, it's like they don't try 290 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: to convince you to vote for somebody else they try 291 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: to convince you that your vote doesn't matter, or that 292 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: you're so different from the person sitting next to you, 293 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: And they kind of flew under the radar in this election, 294 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: but I told them that ain't going to happen next time, 295 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: because people are realizing the minute you realize your power, 296 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: the disinformation machine realizes its power. And so you know, 297 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: we're talking in class today after you and I talk 298 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: about what can eighteen to thirty year olds do to 299 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: keep the momentum but also not fall prey to the 300 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: same divisive crap that got that ensnared the grown ups. 301 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: Basically no, and I think that that's fair. And you know, 302 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: when I had the opportunity when you invited me to 303 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: join your class, you know the questions that your students ask, 304 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: and just there a thoughtfulness because you know, I will 305 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: say that the beauty of when I was in college 306 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: and when you and I were in college is the 307 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: fact that, you know the world didn't seem to be 308 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: going a shit, so we could really not pay attention 309 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: and kind of you know, even though my major was 310 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: in political science, it wasn't as if I felt like 311 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: the world was crumbling around me. So I needed to 312 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: be activated in some type of way. I was interested 313 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and wanted to understand politics, but not because it was 314 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: my major, but not in the way that I think 315 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: that these young people um are now moved and compelled 316 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: because their lives depend on it. So Jonathan, just can 317 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: you speak just a little bit more on you know, 318 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: on what on what your students felt, you know, post 319 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: what they have been feeling post the midterm elections, and 320 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: you know what they are paying attention to as now 321 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: we turned the cycle into into the presidential election. Well, 322 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this week will be the interest 323 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: week for us, honestly, because what I'm saying is, Okay, 324 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell them here's here's the disinformation and 325 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: divisiveness that's been used on grown ups and hasn't really 326 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: been targeted at you guys very much. What And we're 327 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: going to have a conversation what will it mean to 328 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: be targeted in this way? What can people in your 329 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: generation do to make sure that it doesn't work on 330 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: you as well as it worked on the grown ups? 331 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: And so I'm curious to hear what they're going to say. 332 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: The other thing we're doing in my class is we're 333 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: bringing in friends of mine who are on the other side. 334 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: You know, I interview a lot of Trump supporters, a 335 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: lot of very serious gun owners, and I'm bringing them 336 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: all into my class over the next two weeks just 337 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: to say, Look, part of the issue is that part 338 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: of what disinformation does is it makes you think that 339 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: somebody who's different from you is so different that they're 340 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: like an evil person, and so let they're a danger 341 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, and so let's at least try to 342 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: humanize people who we don't agree with, just so we 343 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: can get a sense of what is going to get 344 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: up ended. And so I'm curious to see what they're 345 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: going to say. And then in my big class, the 346 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: class you spoke at, we have probably twenty five football players, 347 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: and so the thing that happened in Virginia is going 348 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: to be very friend of mine, also about guns. And 349 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: so it's TBD because we're really having our first major 350 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: class today and then and then we'll go from there. 351 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: Um so so well, we'll have to see, but I'm 352 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: I am curious to get their their take on it. 353 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of stuff we do in my 354 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: class is very forward, you know, activism. How can you 355 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: change the future that kind of stuff, which is how 356 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: college students think. Um, and so we'll we'll have to see. 357 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: But it was overall it's a good problem to have, 358 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: which is that they were engaged and paying attention. I 359 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: do want to not drop the New York question before, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 360 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: please yeah, So you know, I just don't. I hope 361 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: this is a wake up call to people in New York. Honestly, 362 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's my greatest hope, um, because you and 363 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I have been talking about this for years now, right 364 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: that ye work has been given the shankbone, you know, 365 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: in multiple, multiple ways that are just shipped away at 366 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: the base of the assumption of what it means. Particularly 367 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: New York City, a kind of pluralistic, diverse city where 368 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: people can take public transportation to work and has reasonably 369 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: good gun laws like that's kind of what made New 370 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: York in its current iteration New York. And there have 371 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: been so many points along the way where you just 372 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: want people to like, wake up. I mean, the twenty 373 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: seventeen tax bill for me, was probably the biggest because 374 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: that undermined the tax base of New York people, you know, 375 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: corporations that were in New York because they could write 376 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: off their drive through tax and other kinds of taxes 377 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden couldn't do that. It became much 378 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: more lucrative for businesses to move to a place like here, Tennessee, 379 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: where there's no state income tax. So twenty seventeen, New 380 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: York got hammered, hammered, hammered by the GOP tax bill 381 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: that undercut funding for a bunch of important things in 382 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: New York, including public education and universities and Quney and 383 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: roads and parks, and so now you know, professors at 384 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Quney are on strike, for example, and grad students are 385 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: going to go on strike, and certainly there's plenty of 386 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: money to go around. But I would also say that 387 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: that there was this tax bill that undercut New York 388 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. Then there's all the stuff we've been 389 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: talking about here with the gun laws and the Supreme 390 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: Court overturning New York's gun laws. The pandemic was really hard, 391 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: and so New York is on I just think far 392 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: less stable footing than people realize. And that's why all 393 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: of these idiotic, you know, crime things that Zelden was 394 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: trying to do were more effective, is because the city 395 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: just isn't as on a firm footing as it was. 396 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: And then the last thing I'll say about New York 397 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: is that the sense because so many people moved away 398 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: during the pandemic and people were afraid to full out 399 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: the census. So New York actually lost congressional representation because 400 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: the census showed I think unfairly because Trump was gaming 401 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: the census a demographic ship. So actually New York has 402 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: less political clout in DC than it did. And all 403 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: of which is to say that then losing political seats 404 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: to Republicans in the Congress of New York these kind 405 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: of states flip is going to have really big implications 406 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: for the city going forward. And so I really hope 407 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: this is a time where New York Democrats really mobilize. 408 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm sorry for like going on a 409 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: rant about this, but I just feel like it's been 410 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: brewing for so long, and this is kind of the 411 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: obvious implication of what's been happening. I think that, you know, 412 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: a lot of what we have seen, all of the 413 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: things that you've named are true. I think that in 414 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: terms of Hoocal's race, you know, I had interviewed another 415 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: another New Yorker last week or the week before. And 416 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, he also said something to the effect of 417 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: maybe we also kind of let go of this idea 418 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: that she needed to have a candidate that people actually 419 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: liked or like new And the thing with Kathy Hokel 420 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: is that like she does not move you right, Like, 421 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: she is not a charismatic leader. She is not somebody 422 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: that I can point to anything that she has said 423 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: or done, whereas New York is very much used to 424 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: these male, very ego driven showmen right in a lot 425 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: of ways of their politics. And I think that that 426 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: is also what got lost in the shuffle, right, Like 427 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: Kathy Hokel took the reins at a time of you know, 428 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: the Cuomo instability, and then you know, it was just like, well, 429 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: let me hold the line. It wasn't like, let me 430 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: introduce myself to New York, to New Yorkers and show 431 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: like why I'm the best candidate. I didn't start to 432 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: see commercials until at least three weeks before the election, 433 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: which is which is normal. But also when you're seeing 434 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: commercials of a Democrat and I live in Brooklyn, You're 435 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: like wow. And when I talk to other people in 436 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: New York and they're just like when Hopel started campaigning 437 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: in the Bronx, we knew that we were in trouble 438 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: because we have never seen they had never seen a 439 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: gubernatorial candidate on anybody's campaign trail in any of the 440 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: five boroughs in the way that then she was starting 441 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: to get on the trail because Zeldon, or at least 442 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: according to those polls, were on her heels. She still 443 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: beat him by over you by double digits. But I 444 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: think that to your point, if you had somebody who 445 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: was a Republican who was actually not crazy and more compelling, 446 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: that race would have been a lot closer. And so 447 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: if Republicans are paying attention and they're not going to 448 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: run these zealots, but they're going to run somebody who 449 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: can get in and then turn their zealot on, then 450 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: New York is going to be in trouble. It's not 451 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: like we've never had a Republican governor before, right, or 452 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: or a Republican mayor before like we have. But I 453 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: think the important thing, and I was on k part 454 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: last week and I was kicking myself for not making 455 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: this point that I certainly think you know, when people 456 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: thought about a guy like Zelden. Zelden was just a 457 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: bit two bonkers for anybody. But I would say that 458 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: people thought, oh, Juliani came and cleaned things up, and 459 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Taki came in and he cleaned up some other stuff, 460 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure, and so people thought Republicans they come in 461 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: and they cleaned things up, and then they hand it 462 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: back to Democrats. But I have to say that's really 463 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: dangerous logic right now for a couple of reasons. One 464 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: of course, is what I didn't add to the list 465 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: I just gave you was the redistricting that many other states, 466 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: including Tennessee where I am now, have been carved into 467 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: these little pieces that mayly they're going to be red 468 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: or blue for the next, you know, seventy five thousand years. 469 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: But New York had very failed redistricting. It was rejected 470 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: by a judge, and so the district alignment in New 471 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: York is very unfavorable to Democrats. And then of course 472 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court being against New York with the gun laws, 473 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: the tax code being against New York. So there are 474 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: factors that are against New York right now. And I 475 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: really did feel like if Zelden won that election, he 476 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: wasn't going to come in and save New York or 477 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: clean up New York. He was part of an ideology 478 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: that benefited by destroying New York. That shows, you know, 479 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: woke liberal cities with black people out of control. That's 480 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: why we need more guns and stuff like that. And 481 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: so his ideology wasn't one to clean up Times Square. 482 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: It was to you know, pull away resources and undermine 483 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: New York. And so the danger I think was much 484 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: greater than just people thinking, oh, it's another Giuliani, because 485 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: as Giuliani for all of his before he went bonkers 486 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: here and you know, was on his back counting ceiling 487 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: tiles in the Borat movie before that, he was he sorry, 488 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: couldn't help that, but you know, he was the police, 489 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, to a police in New York, and so 490 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: he kind of knew New York. And Zelden is none 491 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: of those things. He was a kind of an Ara 492 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: funded guy who didn't really care about New York that 493 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: much and was just playing on these crime stereotypes. So 494 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: I really think on one hand, we dodged a bullet. 495 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: But it's also important to note that Hockel's job is 496 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: going to be a lot more difficult because of the 497 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: Republican control of areas outside of New York City, and 498 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: because we have congress people who are going to be 499 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: advocating for their rural areas for resources in congressional budgets, 500 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: and so New York is going to be underfunded compared 501 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: to what it was before. There are a lot of 502 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: factors still that I think because of the election, will 503 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: make Hockel's jobs more important. And of course also the 504 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: gun stuff, which is now really I think important to 505 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: keep on the front earner because UM, again the Supreme 506 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: Court case really opened the door for a lot of 507 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: bad stuff. So switching gears UM. With a few minutes 508 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: that we have left, I do want to talk about, 509 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, the major UM just traumatic event that happened 510 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: at University of Virginia with the murder of UM, the 511 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: mass shooting and the murder of three football players UM 512 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: at the hands of apparently a former football player and 513 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: student on that campus. UM. And the reason why I 514 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about it one because I believe that 515 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: any mass shooting deserves coverage because it is just way 516 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: too common, particularly on UM, you know, on college campuses, 517 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: on high school campuses, on elementary school campuses. It's just 518 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: too common um for our children to experience. But the thing, Jonathan, 519 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: that is standing out for me is that on its face, 520 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: UVA has its own police, UVA has its own like 521 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: crisis task force. They have, you know, on its face, 522 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: all of the right departments and procedures that are supposed 523 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: to be in place to prevent something like this from happening. 524 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: The suspect who is now in custody came up multiple 525 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: times at least since twenty seventeen, I believe, on their 526 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: radar with regard to the fact that they thought that 527 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: he may own a gun that he had, you know, 528 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: gotten mixed up in the law. Previous to this, where 529 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: was the breakdown and that you see and you know, 530 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: and what needs to happen on these campuses in order 531 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: to strengthen these procedures that they put in place to avoid, 532 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, horrible incidents like this from happening. Well, I'm 533 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll just give you some numbers because I've been thinking 534 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: about this for a long time and it's infuriating that 535 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: before that, what's called the campus carry movement, this idea 536 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: that college students eighteen and up have the same Second 537 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Amendment rights as did people in the Revolutionary war. Blah 538 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: blah blah. The number of homicides on college campuses was 539 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: ten per twenty million college students, ten gun homicides for 540 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: every twenty million gun every twenty million students. And the 541 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: reason that was was because campuses were safe spaces. They 542 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: were gun free zones, because people thought, number one, why 543 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: do you need a gun on a college campus? And 544 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: number two, people are at that in that age group, 545 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: they're much more volatile, and they often go to fraternity 546 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: parties and get drunk, and they're fighting over something that 547 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: probably a year from now they won't even care about. 548 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: And it's just a very charge time and people are 549 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: living in very close proximity. So throwing a bunch of 550 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: guns into the college environment is not a great idea. 551 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: But but what carried the day in a lot of 552 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: places like here in Tennessee was this, you know, constitutional 553 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: right of college age students to carry weapons on campus. 554 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: And so there just are a lot more guns on 555 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: college campuses. And I think there will be even more 556 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: guns on college campuses because of the Supreme Court case 557 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: last summer that basically throws up even the laws restricting 558 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: guns on college campuses to constitutional debate, and so college 559 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: campuses are much less safe. Now. I'm on Vanderbilt campus 560 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: right now. We're private school and we can limit guns 561 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: on our campus. But every other campus, and you know, 562 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: University of Tennessee, blah blah blah uva, these state schools, 563 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: because they're not private, they can't they can't limit they 564 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: can't limit guns. And so the data is incredibly clear 565 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: that there just are more of all kinds of shootings 566 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: on college campuses that have more guns, because, believe it 567 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: or not, more guns lead to more shootings. And so 568 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: what to do to make it safe, Well, fewer guns 569 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: on campus would certainly be a good start. I mean, 570 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: I think any individual case, it happens so quickly, and 571 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure in this case also, you know you want 572 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: there to be checks and balances. We never hear of 573 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: the story of the places where these laws that you 574 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: were mentioning worked and they did take away a gun 575 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: from somebody who was going to You never hear that story, 576 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: so you don't know how often they work. But when 577 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, it's kind of like, if you can't 578 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: regulate the flow of guns, how do you know when 579 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: you're just looking at people who shouldn't have a gun. 580 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: And who should and then the shooting happens so quickly. 581 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: So there is some story about this that I think 582 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: will It just seems it seems so different from other 583 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: shootings that we've heard about. There's there's going to be 584 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: some story about this. We don't I don't know, we 585 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: don't know what it is yet. But I would also 586 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: say that we had very good campus safety laws in place, 587 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: and as we've overturned these or rules or just let 588 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: colleges set their own regulations, there'll be more shootings on campus. Yeah, well, 589 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: this is a story that we will continue to watch 590 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: because it's one that is just utterly heartbreaking. And you know, yeah, 591 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: there were two there was a shooting, and there were 592 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: two campus shootings yesterday. So it's like it's it's so common, 593 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: it's so common, and it's let's talk much. I mean, 594 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: you got me on my soapbox today because these are 595 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: issues I care about, and I apologize for going on 596 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: for a while about it, but it's just, um, it's 597 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: just like, these are these are issues we need to 598 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: keep talking about. All these things. Absolutely, doctor Jonathan Mapsil. 599 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate your analysis and the time that 600 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: you make for us on woke af We'll talk to 601 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: you again next week. Take everybody that is it for 602 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: me today hear friends on Woke a F daily as always. 603 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: Power to the people and to all the people. Power, 604 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.