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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: Podcast Back at it again, March third. It's about seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock at night. Uh, this is the latest I've ever

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Speaker 1: the NFL combine, and we got a big show today,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the NFL. I watched a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things that I saw. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start with some takes on Kenny Pickett, which I think

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Speaker 1: was a story of the day, Malik Willis, uh, some

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Speaker 1: of the Ohio state wide receivers, and then we will

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Speaker 1: cover the NFL as we as we always do, which

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Speaker 1: obviously this is the NFL, but I mean the draft

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, let's let's dive into the combine. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: fascinating prospect. I I really do. And if I had

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Speaker 1: I'd take Garrett Wilson in the top ten. Now, you

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Speaker 1: them differently. Right Obviously, coming into like the Rams no

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Speaker 1: longer have picks. The Eagles have three picks, but everyone

428
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Speaker 1: starts at the same baseline. The Rams just chose to

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Speaker 1: allocate their resources two picks for Matt Stafford, two picks

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Speaker 1: for Jalen Ramsey. The Eagle chose to trade back in

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Speaker 1: the draft and accumulate more picks. Every single team has

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Speaker 1: the same amount of money to spend on the salary cap.

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Speaker 1: You can choose to pay Mariy Cooper twenty million dollars,

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Speaker 1: you can choose to pay Matt Stafford million dollars. You

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Speaker 1: can choose to do whatever you want with your resources.

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Speaker 1: But don't get it twisted. Every team in the league

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Speaker 1: has the same exact resources. The reason the Giants have

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Speaker 1: two picks is because the Bears chose last year to

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Speaker 1: use their another first round pick to go up and

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Speaker 1: get Justin Fields. Now, ultimately, you're judged on how you

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Speaker 1: allocate those resources, and that, to me is the most

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Speaker 1: fascinating time or a part of this time of year.

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Speaker 1: How you're gonna allocate your free agent resources, how you're

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Speaker 1: gonna allocate your draft resources. And you know, the best

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Speaker 1: GM separate themselves when they're doing that. Look at Dave

446
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Speaker 1: gentleman as you. I don't know if you saw today,

447
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Speaker 1: but se Kwan Barkley is on the block, and the

448
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Speaker 1: going rate right now for Sae Kwon Barkley is a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Now, granted he got hurt and he

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Speaker 1: has not been this same sense right, but they used

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Speaker 1: the number two overall pick on a running back, number

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Speaker 1: two overall pick on a running back, and now he's

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Speaker 1: going right whatever four years later or three years later,

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Speaker 1: four years later, three years later is a fourth round

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Speaker 1: pick because part of it is like, well, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be up for a contract soon. He's not even that

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Speaker 1: good anymore. Like that is poor. That is a very

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Speaker 1: very poor job of allocating resources. That is dumb. That

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Speaker 1: is bad business. That's stupidity. It's like when the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: took and Leonard four Nette became a good player on

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, the use a fourth overall pick on the guy,

462
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Speaker 1: like you can't do that. That's that's that's dumb organizations

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Speaker 1: for smart organizations. And you know, Mark Cooper, I give

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys credit, like, hey man, we're not paying you

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. That's not gonna fly, not now with that,

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Speaker 1: you know, lazy fair effort. But that's who Mark Cooper is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's part of why Gruden. You know, he's

468
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Speaker 1: a weird player. I like him, but I don't Arizona.

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Speaker 1: They obviously extended Cliff Kingsbury and Steve come. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they really had a choice. They were just I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? I mean I would have

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Speaker 1: I you could have justified firing him. But I think

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Speaker 1: an underrated part about being an NFL owner the last

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Speaker 1: thing in a million years you want to do if

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Speaker 1: you don't have to. Like, the Giants had no choice, right,

476
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Speaker 1: the Jacks had no choice. Certain teams have no choice,

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Speaker 1: but you know the Cardinals ultimately one eleven games. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to go on a coaching search and a

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Speaker 1: g M search. Do you know what a pain in

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Speaker 1: the ass that is. We talked about the draft being

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Speaker 1: a proposition, right, you just you never truly know until

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Speaker 1: you get them. Imagine what coaching and general manager hiring is.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think this guy interviewed Grey, I think

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Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a great head coach, and

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Speaker 1: then he bombs. That happens all the time. So if

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Speaker 1: you're an owner and you feel comfortable you're like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I trust these guys, I especially Steve come You know,

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Speaker 1: I I just I feel comfortable with him as my

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Speaker 1: general manager. It's easy to lean on the side of

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Speaker 1: the ask just and I'll just extend them at least

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Speaker 1: the status quo. You know, we're competitive. I've seen this

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Speaker 1: team when I was young and my dad and the

493
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Speaker 1: franchise be a joke. I get it. But I would

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Speaker 1: also say to those guys, I would entertain trading Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I would short Kyler Murray because we know the Washington

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Speaker 1: Football team has called every single team in the league.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame them. The Washington Football team is desperate.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's weird because right now no one works.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by all these people that didn't go back

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Speaker 1: to work and which I'm all for. Like, if you

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Speaker 1: leave a job you hate, even if it was forced

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Speaker 1: because of COVID or you got sent home, you know,

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Speaker 1: right to work from home, and you realize you hate

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Speaker 1: the job. I've been there, done that, I went on

505
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Speaker 1: started my own thing. I have nothing but respect for

506
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Speaker 1: anyone that wants to do that. But obviously not every

507
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Speaker 1: single person can be an entrepreneur, right eventually, some of

508
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Speaker 1: these people gotta go back to work. What are all

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Speaker 1: these people doing? I know when I was at of

510
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Speaker 1: work the first time, when I got fired in the NFL,

511
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Speaker 1: I spent like three months just super desperate, call in emailing,

512
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Speaker 1: doing everything humanly possible to try to get jobs in

513
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Speaker 1: like three different industries. Right I was just relentless. I

514
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Speaker 1: was desperate. You know, That's kind of feels like the

515
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Speaker 1: football team right now. They got no quarterback. They have

516
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Speaker 1: no hope in sight of getting a quarterback. There are

517
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Speaker 1: no quarterbacks in this draft, and they just feel desperate.

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Speaker 1: They're calling every single team. It's like, oh, they called

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs about Mahomes. Rivera was with Andy Reid at

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Speaker 1: the Madden thing, Like I doubt that was as serious

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Speaker 1: as it sounds, but I wouldn't put it past him.

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Speaker 1: You know, they did have a weird end of the season,

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Speaker 1: but what are they supposed to do? Just not call anybody?

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Speaker 1: Keep their fingers crossed. You might as well you've got nothing,

525
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Speaker 1: you got nothing to lose. It's like when you don't

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Speaker 1: have a job, you got nothing to lose. You gotta

527
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Speaker 1: do something eventually, gotta pay the bills. Like Ron Rivera

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Speaker 1: eventually need someone to throw some touchdowns, because if you

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Speaker 1: can't get a quarterback, he's gonna be out of a

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Speaker 1: job and his head coaching career is gonna be over

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Speaker 1: to be done. He'll never be a head coach again.

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Speaker 1: This is his last shot. So Arizona, like, could you

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Speaker 1: get Ron Rivera to trade you three ones in two

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Speaker 1: twos and signed like Marcus Mariota and just kind of

535
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Speaker 1: figure it out and reload your team? Now, obviously Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray is better than Marcus Mariota, but if I get

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Speaker 1: three ones in two twos, knowing that the Washington football

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Speaker 1: team would pay Kyler Murray and almost like shorting Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: Like you see his attitude, so he's not that into it.

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Speaker 1: That that was when he was trying to get paid.

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Speaker 1: That was his attitude. Now you pay him, maybe you

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Speaker 1: won't even care. Maybe the football team will win six

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Speaker 1: seven games all of a sudden, you're getting good picks

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Speaker 1: and Kingsbury with the spread offense. Could you win with

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota? I would be asking myself that right now,

546
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Speaker 1: because now I got some job security and clearly the

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Speaker 1: owner is not that big on him. I would be

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Speaker 1: entertaining that move because you know the football team. And

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Speaker 1: even if Ron Rivera didn't love Kyler Maury, I'd call

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Speaker 1: the owner. I'd call Snyder and say, hey, man, I

551
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: got something for you. I wanted to bounce something off you.

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Speaker 1: Sit down for this one, buddy, because I got something

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Speaker 1: that might intrigue you. The Dolphins. Chris Greer, the Dolphins

554
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Speaker 1: general manager, said that the door is shut. I think

555
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Speaker 1: that's it's exact quote. The door is shut on Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins are an underrated, just kind of

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Speaker 1: consistent clown show. Like it's just what a weird, bizarre franchise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, what what just What's just a weird place?

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Speaker 1: And I went to Miami for the first time a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago for the Super Bowl. It was awesome,

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Speaker 1: it was really cool. I love the city. But something

562
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Speaker 1: is just off with that place. And I don't believe

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Speaker 1: this guy for a second, because I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: his call. Now. I don't know if the owner likes

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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson or not, but the owner is gonna

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Speaker 1: do whatever the hell he wants to do. He's been

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Speaker 1: consistently doing that now for since he's owned the team.

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Speaker 1: So Chris Career, Mike McDaniel, you guys have no juice.

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Speaker 1: If the owner wants to Shaun Watson, Deshaun Watson gonna

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Speaker 1: be on the team. It's like I said, if I

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Speaker 1: was Arizona, I would call Dan Sneiner. Hell, I would

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Speaker 1: I would call If I was Arizona and I wanted

573
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Speaker 1: to get a bunch of picks, I'd call the Dolphins. Hey, man,

574
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Speaker 1: Hey Stephen, I got something for you. I wanted to

575
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: bounce something off you. Just a franchise that just feels

576
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Speaker 1: what an underachieving franchise. It's really just a bizarre place.

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Speaker 1: Something about the Miami Dolphins, who when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were a really big deal, obviously with

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Speaker 1: Damn Marino and before I was born, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Marinos doing movies with Jim Carey. They were they were

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Speaker 1: only on the Volumes podcast network. Mr Bisky, this is

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Speaker 1: a story that's been making his rounds this week. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: sometimes I just don't understand things. You know, when people

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Speaker 1: work in public jobs and they fail, like really spectacularly fail,

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Speaker 1: and it goes really really poorly. If you just go

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Speaker 1: away for a little bit, just disappear off the radar,

598
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: or even are still on the radar but are doing

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Speaker 1: something different, somehow your value comes back without you doing anything.

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Speaker 1: It's really kind of nuts, right. It happened to John Gruden.

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Speaker 1: John Gruden was run out of Tampa. It was a disaster,

602
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: couldn't have got any worse, and he quit coaching, went

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Speaker 1: to Monday Night Football, and all of a sudden, probably

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Speaker 1: five years into in and at football, every single team

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00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: for the next five years trying to hire him. Colleges,

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: pro teams, teams were doing everything humanly possible to get

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Speaker 1: their hands on John Gruden, even though if you just

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Speaker 1: peel back the onion and you look like, what was

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00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: it like as a coach, not as a broadcaster, Like

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00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: he was not good at the end in Tampa. Yet

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00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: everyone forgot about it, every single person. Hell, even I

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00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of did. I was like, shoot, I'd hired Gruden

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Speaker 1: ship Tennessee, USC, the Colts, the Raiders, Gruen's gonna kick

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Speaker 1: ass take names. Then he comes back and it feels like,

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Speaker 1: you know, John Gruen was pretty overhyped. John Gruden was

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Speaker 1: definitely overhyped. I remember thinking, like, we're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: offensive version of Bill Parcels and it was nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: It was for the most part of disaster. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not even talking about before he got fired or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the on the field product, his moves,

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Speaker 1: his his just team. It underwhelmed, It really did. And

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Speaker 1: I think m R. Biski, who we literally watched for

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Speaker 1: four years on the Chicago Bears, it's just not that

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00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: good at football. And I saw Brandon Bean, who had

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00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: a really good press commerce and he was asked about

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Speaker 1: him and he brought up his character and he basically said,

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Speaker 1: like you know, I'd let my and this is a

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Speaker 1: you know, scouting term, like you know, they say they

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Speaker 1: everyone in the program says he's a type guy you

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Speaker 1: want your daughter to marry. When someone says that the

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Speaker 1: type guy you want your daughter to marry, that's just

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Speaker 1: like a premium character, right, that's just like high level

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Speaker 1: salt of the earth doesn't get any better as a

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Speaker 1: human being, and everyone's like Mr Bisky. No one ever

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Speaker 1: questioned Mr Bisky's character. Mr Whisky was known as a

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Speaker 1: good high level guy. I know obviously new people in Chicago,

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00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: they love the guy. His work, ethic, how hard he tried.

638
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: He did not fail from lack of effort, lack of trying,

639
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: lack of you know, character. He failed because his physical tools.

640
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: He's not an accurate passer. He's not a natural thrower

641
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: of the ball. He doesn't have accurate touch on basic

642
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: NFL routes between certain coverages. He's just not a very

643
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: good quarterback. And I do think he found his role

644
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: as like a three or four million dollar backup. Yet

645
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: there are people on social media and the buzz of

646
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: the combine is like there might be a market for

647
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Mr Biskey to be a starting quarterback. If Mr Bisky

648
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: is your starting quarterback in two thouso, your team is

649
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: not going to be very good, mainly because he's not

650
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: very good at playing quarterback. He's a good guy, he's

651
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: good in press conferences, he's good the whole thing. He's

652
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: just not a very good player, which is normal. There

653
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of good quarterbacks. He he actually is

654
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: much more normal than an outlier. The outliers are Josh Allen,

655
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, right those, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers.

656
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: Those guys are outliers. Most quarterbacks that come in the

657
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: NFL are Mr. Whisky not very good. There's nothing wrong

658
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: with that. And Mitch could have a ten year career

659
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: making four or five million dollars. He could rack up

660
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: another fifty million he goes to start. The worst thing

661
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: you can do when you're a backup quarterback is play,

662
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: because the moment you start playing, you get exposed. And

663
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: the moment you get exposed, the quicker we run you

664
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: out of the league because you know people like me

665
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: and we start talking about you in the sense that

666
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: you're not good enough. Obviously, what I say doesn't necessarily matter,

667
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: But I mean all the fans. No, definitely the gms

668
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: and definitely the coaches. No, Chase Daniel never has to play.

669
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: It's how he keeps casting them checks doesn'tet on the field.

670
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: He's smart. He avoids the hard part of the position

671
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: a k playing. He just studies good teammate mentors. It's

672
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: a good move, uh. I saw John Schnyder. You see

673
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot of these gms and coaches. They talk at

674
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: the main press conference at the combine, and then they

675
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: also but anyone can go to that, but then they

676
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: also throw their guy eyes a bone, like they will

677
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: go to just they gathered all the local guys and

678
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: they kind of go off to the side and then

679
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: they just kind of get into the nitty gritty. And

680
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I saw John Schneider did that with the Seattle guys.

681
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: And then one of the Seattle guys asked him about

682
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in the trade, and John just kind of said, well,

683
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: anytime a rumor comes out, like last year when the

684
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: rumor came out about the four teams, my phone blows up.

685
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: This year, the trade deadline, my phone blows up. Obviously,

686
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: the start of this offseason, my phone blows up. I'm

687
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: not calling anybody, but they're all calling me, and he's like,

688
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, I have to listen to my job. But

689
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: we don't intend on trading him. If Russell Wilson wants

690
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to get traded, I've been saying this over and over

691
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: and over again all y s two has put out

692
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: the bad signal I want out. I think they'll trade him.

693
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: They keep saying they don't want to trade him, and

694
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: they don't because as of right now, he hasn't said

695
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be there. But if he forces

696
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: his way out, I do think these guys would be

697
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: open to move him just because they're kind of tired

698
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: of the drama. Now, is that the right football move? No?

699
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Can they ever improve on Russell Wilson. No, But if

700
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: he comes out and has a distinct NBA level I

701
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: do not want to play here, the offers they would

702
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: get would be stupid. I mean, I think the Eagles

703
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: would offer him three first round picks this year, one

704
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: next year, a two and Jalen hurts. You can reset

705
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: your entire franchise and if you're John Sider, you plan

706
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: on being there for another decade. So it's it's kind

707
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: of in Russell's hands, because clearly the league thinks something

708
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: weird is going on because he didn't say anything this

709
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: trade deadline, and John said his phones are blowing up

710
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: on the trade deadline. So it's just a bizarre situation

711
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: to watch. And I also, I've been saying forever like

712
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to trade the best player in the history

713
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: of franchise. I agree. But if I'm John and he

714
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: just makes it like bro, I do not want to

715
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: be here anymore. I'm not gonna resign here long term.

716
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: And you can get some sweet offers of like four

717
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: first round picks and two and just a quarterback to

718
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: hold you over, it would cross my mind. The last,

719
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: but not least. I just watching a lot of these

720
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: general manager press conferences. One thing is key or clear

721
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: in this league, which I think is very key just

722
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: moving forward. And I think most you know, basketball baseball

723
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: have done this too. You need generally like the day

724
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: and age of meathead gms. They can't handle press conferences,

725
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: can't be good spokesman for your team. Same goes for coaches.

726
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of done, you know. Listen, Belichick doesn't speak

727
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: in press conference because he doesn't care. It's not because

728
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: he's not smart and articulate. Right, you have to be

729
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: able to get up in front of a press conference

730
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: and represent the team, now more than ever with social media,

731
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: with the power of YouTube. And I saw so many

732
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: general manager, especially a lot of the young guys, they

733
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: could just get up there and hold their own They

734
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: were comfortable. I thought the Giants guys really impressive for

735
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, he's like my age, like seven

736
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: years old, first time GM and just gets up there

737
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: and kind of can hold court. You know. It's just

738
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, this is what you want,

739
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: and this is what they did not have with Dave Gentleman.

740
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: You know, you have to you know, not even necessarily

741
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: quote unquote look the part, but you've got to be

742
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: able to handle the part. And a lot of these

743
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: questions are coming fast and furious. All the questions are

744
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: on your quarterback and moves, and you gotta be able

745
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: to be personable but also like balance the cliches to

746
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: not give too much, but also kind of give the

747
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: media enough where they're not on your back, you know.

748
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: And I just I thought a lot of these guys,

749
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's just gonna be a younger generation

750
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: we've grown up just watching more of this. We just

751
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: know it matters, probably now more than ever. I I

752
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: just think that a lot of the new AIG general

753
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: managers are gonna be much more equipped because forever, a

754
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: lot a large part of my life, like in the

755
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: nineties or the two thousand's, sometimes a guy would get

756
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: a job and he'd have no shot. He couldn't communicate.

757
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: You get him in front of the press, you put

758
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: a camera in front of it, and it was like,

759
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: what the hell is this? And maybe he was a

760
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: good coach, maybe he was schematically pretty good, but he

761
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: couldn't communicate, maybe communicate with his players or not. But

762
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: if you can't communicate with your fans, the people literally

763
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: paying for everything, even if you're not giving them that much,

764
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get run out of town quicker. So the

765
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: better you can be in front of a microphone. And

766
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: again the bar is not that high. You don't need

767
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: to be Bill Parcels, you know, and you don't, But

768
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: you can't be Bill Belichick like that. That is never

769
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen again, that's not gonna be allowed because there's

770
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: never gonna be a coach that wons six Super Bowls

771
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: like that's that's over. He could act like that one

772
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: He's from a completely different generation. And then by the

773
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: time everything changed with you know, social media and just

774
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: press conferences and the importance of them. He had, he

775
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: had so much equity it didn't matter. But you can't

776
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: act like that now. Those days are done. And I

777
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: bet sometimes these gms don't want to, you know, always talk,

778
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: or part of it is you gotta play the game

779
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like, I'm critical of Brandon Saley

780
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: because I think he plays the game too hard, but

781
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: I think because I think he knows what he's doing,

782
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: because he's a smart guy. I actually watched him a

783
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: little bit with Pat McAfee and it was like he

784
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: was I felt like he was talking normally. Mike Staley,

785
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: why don't you talk like this normally? And part of

786
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: it is met Pat is just much part of when

787
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: you're in front of the Big Jay's, you know, you

788
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: can play the Big Jays like a fiddle. You know,

789
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: it's so it's so predictable what they'll eat up and

790
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: what they'll love and what they'll hate, so you can

791
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: just you can just play him like a fiddle. And

792
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: he does. But he was with Pat he just acted

793
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: like a normal guy. It was the first time I

794
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: ever saw him like the can just not be a robot.

795
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, if Russell Wilson could just

796
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: talk like Tom Brady, like, oh, he's just talking like

797
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: a normal guy. But Russell camp Brandon, I think I

798
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: saw a glimpse. I was like, oh, I think I

799
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: actually might kind of like this version. But then I

800
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: saw him with Shregurd. He's a little cheesy, but that

801
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: was NFL Network because he knows, you know, a lot

802
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: more people actually, I mean a lot of people were

803
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: watching McAfee too, but it's a lot of dudes and bros.

804
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: You know. NFL Network maybe thinks it's a different crowd,

805
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: but so there's a balance of it. Um. But but

806
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: I do think that that's something that's very very important

807
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: to the obviously the owners and the team presidents. I

808
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: need a good spokesman because we're always selling this is

809
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: such a big business. If you turn on CNBC in

810
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: the morning, you know, depending on the day. Obviously, the

811
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks have been like war stuff with Ukraine,

812
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: but in normal times they have on just different CEOs

813
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: of different companies, right, anyone listening to this is in

814
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: the finance world. Like I tell you, CNBC like laughing

815
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: at me. You guys watch Bloomberg TV or whatever. I'm not,

816
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just it's like a little background noise.

817
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Keep it basic my finances. And they'll have on CEOs

818
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes there'll be a CEO and you're just like, God,

819
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: this guy is not very good on the camera, which

820
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: is just not ideal. You just want to get the

821
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: guy leading your company, whether it's you know, the boss,

822
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: whether it's the head coach, whether it's a GM. They

823
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: can just handle themselves right in front of a camera

824
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: and no one's looking for perfection. You don't need to

825
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: have some you know, you don't need to be Sean

826
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: McVeigh so to be able to host a podcast and

827
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: you know he's the best case or Tomlin, but you

828
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: do need to have some ship to you. You do

829
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: need to able to like crack a couple of jokes

830
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: like does Andy love doing press conferences? Probably not, you know,

831
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: but does he understand you know, it's part of the game.

832
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: And does he know how to throw a couple of

833
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: singers to keep everyone laughing and enjoy it? Yes, it's

834
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: it's it's not that complicated. And I but unluckily, like

835
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: I said, I think the NFL is lush with a

836
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, especially the younger crew of getting

837
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: these gms did get it. And like I said, the

838
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: analytical movement of all these gms and all these young guys,

839
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: all these measurements and times and broad jumps, that is analytics.

840
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: So when you see a guy had a forty inch

841
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: vert or a twenty inch vert or whatever, any of

842
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: these things that they're doing that has a you know,

843
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: a quantitative you know, uh number next to the to

844
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: the activity right vert, broad jump, forty three cone whatever,

845
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: that is analytics. And that is used to camp everything

846
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: no different than the real estate in the square footage.

847
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Speaker 1: And I just don't I don't understand why people don't

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Speaker 1: get that. And I you know, listen to Danna Jeremiah's

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Speaker 1: podcast the last couple of weeks. There's obviously there was

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Speaker 1: an attack on the combine, like people wanted to, you know,

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Speaker 1: basically cancel the combine. The combine has a lot of value,

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Speaker 1: like it is valuable to watch Garrett Wilson be the

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver on the field in a loaded wide

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Speaker 1: receiver draft it's valuable to watch Carson Strong, who's kind

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Speaker 1: of a throwback quarterback from Nevada that can't really move,

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Speaker 1: have a massive arm and see that in person. If

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Speaker 1: if you and I, let's say, are prospects of the

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Speaker 1: University of Washington and we're second third round, I'm a

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Speaker 1: dB and you're a wide receiver, and we have our

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Speaker 1: pro day, and the pro day is about to happen, Well,

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Speaker 1: there might be four other pro days going on that day.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State may have one, you know, Florida might have one,

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Speaker 1: and technically and Texas and m might have one. I'm

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Speaker 1: not to get every decision maker at my pro day.

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Speaker 1: I don't even care if I'm an Alabama Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna get more at those. But regardless,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be spread out and some guys don't travel.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's hectic time. The combine is literally the

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Speaker 1: one time when every single GM and every single head

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Speaker 1: coach beside McVeigh and cal shan are there, every single

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Speaker 1: one and every scout, every system GM, They're all sitting

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Speaker 1: there watching you work out. Have you ever interviewed you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to interview, like who do you want

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Speaker 1: to interview the boss, the guy making the decision. Any

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Speaker 1: sales people listening to this, like, who do they teach

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Speaker 1: you to go to the gatekeeper the decision makers? You

877
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Speaker 1: never want to talk to someone that's not a decision maker. Why,

878
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Speaker 1: because you're wasting your time. That's why you always butter

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Speaker 1: up the gatekeeper, right, which any all you guys that

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Speaker 1: recommended dope sick. You know, if you want to get

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Speaker 1: to the doctor to sell them that oxy cotton, you

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00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: gotta go through the secretary. So you know, give her

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Speaker 1: some flowers, you give her a manny petty, you take

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Speaker 1: care of her. That's business one on one. If you

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Speaker 1: want to get to someone with a secretary, you butter

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Speaker 1: up the secretary, or I mean, you gotta go through

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Speaker 1: the gatekeeper, and that's usually the gatekeeper, right, well, decision makers, right,

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Speaker 1: there is no gatekeeper. If I'm you know, a player

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Speaker 1: and trying to get ahold of Mike Tomlin, like I

890
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Speaker 1: gotta call the office, go Mike tom was sitting there

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Speaker 1: watching me play or run around. Name me a better

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Speaker 1: interview in the history of America than what happens in

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Speaker 1: the combine. They already know you, they already have the

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Speaker 1: information and then they get to watch you work out.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a pretty good gig. To me, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty good deal. People always talk about

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Speaker 1: the combine and listen is it a little I also

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Speaker 1: think props to Roger Goodell put that thing at night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what a genius move. Is there a chance

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Speaker 1: of the NFL combine is going to outrate the NBA

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Speaker 1: games tonight? Because I think there is. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: that the NFL combine in uh in prime time is

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Speaker 1: gonna do an outrageous eating When you just factor it in,

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Speaker 1: it's people running around in shorts and T shirts. Think

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Speaker 1: about that. If a couple of million people watch people

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Speaker 1: run around shorts and T shirts, the power of the

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Speaker 1: NFL is just really is mind blowing. If it gets

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Speaker 1: like a hundred thousand, then maybe I'm just a nerd

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Speaker 1: and I was watching it with not many people, But

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Speaker 1: I doubt that's the case. I would expect this number.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if it gets Brooklyn Miami heat. What did

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Speaker 1: they combine or Brooklyn Miami heat? What? What? What event

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Speaker 1: had more eyeballs? Fascinated to watch, appreciate everyone listening, battling

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Speaker 1: through still still in the men here with my throat

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Speaker 1: um bronchiis no big deal. Battle through. Didn't miss one podcast,

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Speaker 1: see everyone later. Subscribe to the pod, share with your

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Speaker 1: friends grassroots, have a great weekend. Peace The volume