1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show for this week 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: October twenty first, great to have you with us, hopefully 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: riding along with you or keep you company at home 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: or at the office. Don't want the boss here that 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: you listen to us, though, because you know you're supposed 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: to be doing your TPS reports. We've got a lot 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: to discuss with you. Big news come out of Florida 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: in an effort to protect people from the vaccine mandates. 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Turns out some states some governors do want to protect freedom. 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Rhonda santists. Governor Abbott of Texas will discuss that the 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: fight over due masks work in school as we've been 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: told or not, has some interesting back and forth. We've 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: also got the Attorney General Merrick Garland getting grilled on 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill for what seemed to be a shot across 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: the bow of concerned parents with that memo you know who, 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: the domestic terrorist, the soccer mom insurrectionist. Merrick Garland's having 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: to answer for that a little bit today we'll discuss it. 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: It's also tying into the Virginia governor's race. Clay pointed 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: out to me right before the show, basically dead heat 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: in the most reliable polls we've seen right now between 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Glen Junkin and Terry mccauliffe. Would be a seismic shock 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: for the Democrat Party to lose that gubernatorial race given 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the trajectory of politics over the last year or so. 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Remember we lost those two Georgia Senate seats and the 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: special elect I mean, we've had a rough go. This 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: would be a really nice turning of the tide. And schools, 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: school boards, concerned parents CRT at the center of that race. 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: So we'll be discussing that with you. Plus the Netflix walkout. 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Clay's got some great clips on that one. And a professor, 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: if we can get to it, a professor from m 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I T of geophysics not allowed to give a prestigious lecture. 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Why because he doesn't agree with a firmaive action hiring 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: in the sciences the way that the left demands. And 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: you've got to hear some of the arguments that are 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: being used against this guy. But let's start with the 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: good news from Florida. As of today, I was very 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: excited to see this, Clay, we have a member of 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: the Florida State legislature. It looks like they're going to pass. 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, what Texas has done is say at the 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: executive level, no vaccine mandates period. That means, I'm sorry 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: your business the same way your business cannot discriminating the 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: basis of race, cannot only serve some customers. You know, 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: there's some things that states cannot or can allow, depending 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, businesses to do. And it looks 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: like in Florida they're going through the legislative arm instead 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: of just the executive branch. Governor de Santists announced a 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: special session to pass legislation to protect Floridian's medical freedom 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: and right to earn a living. Florida is fighting back 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: against unjust mandates. That was the tweet from from Representative 52 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Sabbatinia, Florida this morning. Clay, this is the pushback, 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: my friend. This is all we need to see. And 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: we have talked a lot about this in the context 55 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: of federalism and the good fortune that we have that 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Republican governors have existed at all in this country, because 57 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: if they didn't, we might well be Canada. Or Australia 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and have been locked down for much of the past 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: year with no recourse because everybody would have been out 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: there trying to do the same thing. Right, And so 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: as you break this down and start to analyze it, 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: it is a really big and strong and monumental and 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: important thing that governors Abbot and Abbot and certainly DeSantis 64 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: are doing. And the way that this is going, I 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: believe is going to end up in a massive battle. 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Now legally, let me let me say this too. It's 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: important for people like us with substantial audiences to keep 68 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: hammering a fact which is an inconvenient truth that most 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: will not discuss. Florida yesterday had the lowest rate of 70 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: COVID in the contiguous United States. Only Hawaii yesterday, according 71 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to New York Times data, had a lower rate per 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: capita of COVID infection than For to play, we have 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: to find out how Governor Ron de Santis managed to 74 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: spread the COVID everywhere else, Yes, in the country. He 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: must control the seasons. And it's also important, and this 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: is why I would love to have doctor Fauci, and 77 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: we need to get to basically Faucci being proven to 78 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: be a liar Ran Paul being proven correct based on 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: an NIH statement during the course of today's show. But 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: buck Vermont, which is one of the most vaccinated states 81 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: in the entire country, nobody is covering this is consistently 82 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: setting every day new highs in COVID. Over ninety percent 83 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: of adults in Vermont are testing positive for COVID. Now, sorry, 84 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: despite ninety percent of people being vaccinated, new highs are 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: being set in COVID cases. And the question that doctor 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Fauci and everybody of his ILK should have to answer 87 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: is one that I bet Ron de Santis and Florida 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: and Greg Abbott in Texas would like to ask as well. 89 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: If everybody being vaccinated eliminates COVID, how do you explain 90 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: Vermont there is no explanation. Well, they're still clinging to 91 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: it's only the unvaccinated, which is not correct, right, So 92 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: this is where there's a little bit of a panic 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: I think among the establishment, the medical establishment. I would 94 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: also note that you know, Clay we here on this show, 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: we're pushing for protection against private sector mandates. May have 96 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: even had a discussion with a governor from another state 97 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: who did not see him interested and wanted to give 98 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: a phony pseudo constitutional lecture on how a state cannot 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: do what in fact the states of Texas and now 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Florida will be doing. Because when you under stand the 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: nature of what the left is trying to accomplish here, 102 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: you can see their next moves. It was pretty clear 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: that they were going to be using the private sector 104 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: to force people to get the shot. And I also 105 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: think in addition to the businesses that are doing it, 106 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: people are now seeing I'm not saying this, I hate 107 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the old They're coming for your children. There will be 108 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: blue states that are mandating you're six year old gets 109 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine. It's going to happen within ninety days. 110 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: They're going to be mandating it. And so now people 111 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: are saying, okay, so what do we do. We're gonna 112 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: sit around and give each other, you know, give each 113 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: other pats on the back because we're small government or whatever, 114 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: while everyone's being forced to get the shot or get 115 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: fired or have to take all these extreme measures of 116 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: the government's mandating. So Florida and Texas leading the charge 117 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: holding line, and remember Florida is not there are other 118 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: redder states that are not being as courageous on this 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: issue Florida is is you know, a little red, but 120 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: it's not that red. So to get the Florida legislature 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: moving behind this and to take this action so that 122 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: people won't lose their jobs over this is showing some 123 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: real courage on the part of the Republican legislators and 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: also Governor Rohn des sentis there. I wish it would 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: be mirrored in some of the reader states. Well, it 126 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: should be mirrored in every state that has the opportunity 127 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to do this, because at a minimum, we are headed 128 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: for a Supreme Court review of how do we determine 129 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: the legality here? Can the federal government, which, by the way, Buck, 130 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: I just I want to keep emphasizing they still haven't 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: promulgated their official rules. They announced that they were going 132 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: to do it, but the Osha requirement on COVID vaccination 133 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: for any company that has over a hundred employees, that 134 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: still hasn't happened. And so I continue to believe that 135 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: not only you need to stand up to it, because 136 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: it makes it clear this is going to be a 137 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: legal battle, but I think the Biden administration is aware 138 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: that that might be a legal battle they lose, and 139 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: so they're trying to drag out the implementation of these 140 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine requirements, the mandates from the federal government as 141 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: long as they can, so that hopefully, I really think 142 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: that this they are hoping they can say, hey, so 143 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: many people went ahead and got vaccinated that now we 144 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: don't have to implement a federal mandate. We still think 145 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: individual companies should do it, but we're going to back up. 146 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: They're going to give us a carrot after threatening to 147 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: hit us with a stick. Absolutely, I mean, and you 148 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: start to look at this play. Can the federal government 149 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: mandate that every every household in America has to buy 150 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: a firearm? I mean, under the expansive approach that the 151 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Democrats seem to take here of the commerce clause and 152 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: the federal government in this case using OSHA. But you 153 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: know where does this stop and start? If you don't 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: leave certain things to states only. We often talk about 155 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: federalism here on the show, then you just have a 156 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: DC based super legislature and states are effectively irrelevant. There 157 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: are things that should be left to the states, and 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: health is overwhelmingly one of them, especially when it comes 159 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: to things like quarantine powers and safety regulations and things 160 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: of that nature. States have a tremendous leeway with that 161 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: they have plenary powers. Florida and Texas recognize that. Yeah, 162 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: and so this is a little bit of a complicated 163 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: legal dynamic, but I do think people should be aware 164 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: of this. By trying to have OSHA mandate it, what 165 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: would end up being the dispute is does OSHA have 166 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: the authority to mandate a federal vaccine right? And it's 167 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: different than, for instance, if the Congress tried to mandate it. 168 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of people out there 169 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: that would say, Okay, if you want to have that 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: debate and you want to go into the House, and 171 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you want to go into the Senate, and you want 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: the federal government to try to mandate under legislative power. 173 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: But what they're trying to do is put this under 174 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: the OSHA regulatory regime, which is the same thing buck 175 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: that was found into a certain degree to be unconstitutional 176 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: because remember, it wasn't a when we go back to 177 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: the eviction moratorium that the Supreme Court shut down, that 178 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: was not a federal legislation that was also under the CDC, 179 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: and they found that it exceeded the scope of the 180 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: CDC's authority to keep evictions from occurring as a public 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: health matter. Similarly, I think it's likely that the agency 182 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: and regulatory state of this regulation being promulgated underneath OSHA 183 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: is not going to be permissible, whereas if they went 184 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: to Congress and the House and the Senate said we're 185 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: going to do this, that would be a stronger case. 186 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: This is because the bureaucracy has become the fourth and 187 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: unelected branch of our government in many ways more powerful 188 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: than more intrusive than even what you get from the 189 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: legislative branch and the judiciary and the elected executive branch 190 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: in the sense that you actually have members of Congress 191 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: and the President. Well, the president obviously and then members 192 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: of Congress are part of the legislative. But the point 193 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: here being, you're not opposed to be living at the 194 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: whim of the EPA or elected the OSHA or HHS. 195 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: So you know, people, HHS is a massive institution in 196 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: America now, and when they say things like, oh, but 197 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: it's private business, is making these decisions the federal government 198 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes because of Medicare and Medicaid and all 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: these different HHS regulations and reimbursements, calls, the shots in 200 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: the hospital system. People need to understand it's not as 201 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: simple as just oh, you know. This is why there's 202 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot of libertarians. I've got a lot of libertarian friends. 203 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: They have not been particularly helpful in this fight against 204 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: COVID because they keep thinking there's some neutral space here 205 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: that we're defending, when really we're just taking artillery rounds 206 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: all the time. The other side does whatever they want, 207 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: and I think Florida and Texas, to bring it all back, 208 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: are are making the right move by at least they 209 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: gotta try to defend these basic rights. You know, it's 210 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: your point about how the courts play this out, Clay, 211 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: We'll see. But beyond that, timing here really matters. Even 212 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: delaying it sixty ninety days maybe six months, might mean 213 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: the difference between a really onerous and aggressive mandate going 214 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: into effect that because once the needle goes in your arm, 215 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: it's done. And this is why back in August I 216 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: felt so vociferously about taking action in Red States, and 217 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I have a feeling some other Red states maybe taking action, 218 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: but I will not be getting any apology notes from 219 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: any governors. 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Legacybox 266 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: dot Com slash Clay forty percent off one more time. 267 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Legacybox dot Com Clay Walking Back in Clay Travis buck 268 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I think it's important that we call out 269 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: lies when they occur, and we try to do that 270 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, And I think the worst kind 271 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: of why is one that is designed to inflame fear 272 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: because there is so much lying going on on a 273 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: day to day basis that it is hard not to 274 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: at times get overwhelmed and just sit back and say, 275 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: what is the actual truth? Which is why? Buck? If 276 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: you and I and we've talked about this on the 277 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: show before, if we get a fact wrong, like we 278 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: feel sick to our stomachs, i'mbarrassed. In this show, I'm 279 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: inbarrassed if we get a factor wrong. And look, opinions, 280 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: there's a big difference between a fact and an opinion. 281 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: But when you are a public health authority, you and 282 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Buck and eye. Look at all the data. We know 283 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: everybody's busy. We look at all the data on masking. 284 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: We pay attention to it, but we feel sick to 285 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: our stomachs if we get a factor on and if 286 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: we do, we'll come back and say, hey, we told 287 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: you this it turns out that did not end up 288 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: being true, which we try to do. That's our promise 289 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: to you. One of the things that I think is 290 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: the most infuriating, and there are a lot of things 291 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: about COVID that are infuriating, is the insistence on public 292 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: health officials who should know better, continuing to sell us 293 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: things that are factually untrue and not supported by the data. 294 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: And so I'm going to play the falsehood first. I 295 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: want to make it clear this is not true. Okay, 296 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: this is not accurate, and then we're going to bring 297 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: you the actual truth on the flip side in the 298 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: next segment. But first let's play cut two from Vivic Murphy, 299 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: who is trying to argue that masks may since and 300 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: that they make us all safer. This is the Surgeon 301 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: General of the United States, Vivic Murthy, and I worry 302 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: about efforts in some states and some localities to move 303 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: schools away from universal mass requirements and testing, because we've 304 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: seen now that schools that have universal masking in place 305 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: are much much less likely, more than three and a 306 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: half times less likely to have outbreaks in schools compared 307 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: to schools they don't have masking rules. This is our 308 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: kids health that's at stake. We've got to take every 309 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: measure to make sure they're okay. No, no, it's a lie. No, 310 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, We're We're not going to let this fly 311 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: Clay right. It just we'll come back and give more 312 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: data on the other side from you know, Harvard trained 313 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: MD who happens to be the surgeon general for the 314 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: state of Florida. Maybe he knows something. Maybe he knows something. 315 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: We'll address this in a second. We're not letting them 316 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: get away with the lies. Friends. 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That's pound two five zero say 337 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: pure Talk. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck 338 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. This is where we provide an island of 339 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: sanity amidst all the madness of the fauciites, the socialists, 340 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: the commies, the woke. This is where you come to 341 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: gather with all of us, the same people, as my 342 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: friend Clay says. This is where we do the same thing, 343 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: the rational thing, and that means looking at the numbers, 344 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: the data, the reality as it is. We just play 345 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: it before in case you missed it. The Surgeon General 346 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: Murphy for the United States government making a claim, making 347 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: a claim that schools that don't have mask mandates have 348 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: three point five times the COVID outbreaks of schools with 349 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: mask mandates. I've looked at this study and this is 350 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: what it says on the hill about it. Out of 351 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: the one hundred ninety one schools in Maricopa and peem 352 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: Back Counties in Arizona that experience outbreaks by the end 353 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: of August, fifty nine point two percent did not have 354 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: a mask requirement compared to eight point four percent that 355 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: required mask from the start of the school year. Um, 356 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: so they're doing this from August. This almost a third 357 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: of outbreaks occurred in schools that implemented mask mandates after 358 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: the school year. But you got to clay, there's no 359 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: control groups. It's complete garbage. This the study that he said, 360 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: the study the Surgeon General is citing is complete garbage. 361 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: Here's the Surgeon General at the and this is why 362 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: that they they never want what we actually said this 363 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: here on the show that one of the reasons there 364 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: was such opposition to mask choice for kids in Florida 365 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: schools was Florida would keep real data and there would 366 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: be a control group there where it was mandated in 367 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: schools where it was not, and you'd be able to 368 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: look at it. And here is what the Surgeon General 369 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: of the State of Florida says, Harvard m D. Doctor 370 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: Joseph Latipot. You get to step back moment from what 371 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: you hear sort of constantly on TV and just very briefly, 372 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: in terms of the data that supports masked use and 373 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: kids and mandates for masking kids. It is very weak, 374 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: and that's a fact. But there's a substantial gap between 375 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: the quality of the data out they're supporting masking kids 376 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: yielding any benefit for kids whatsoever factual, and what we're 377 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: hearing from some of our public health leadership in other 378 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: states and nationally in Florida. We're going to stay close 379 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: to the data and we're gonna let you know how 380 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: we feel about the data. And the data do not 381 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: support any clinical benefit for children in schools with mask mandates. 382 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: The highest quality data find no evidence of benefit. And 383 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: that's how we're going to stick with that, because that's 384 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: what the data show. I mean, Clay. This guy, what 385 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: does he not know anything? He's a Harvard MD. Does 386 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: he not understand the science what we had? You'll remember 387 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: the New York Magazine article writer who has been enmeshed 388 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: in analyzing the data. David's Why, I believe was his 389 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: name at New York Magazine. And I would encourage people 390 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: out there. We have shared this, maybe we can share 391 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: it from the Clay and Buck Twitter account again, the 392 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: science on masking children, there is no data out there 393 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: that legitimately supports masking having any impact at all. And Florida, 394 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: to your point, is such a great test case scenario 395 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,239 Speaker 1: because some counties and Florida mandated mask contrary to what 396 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: the governor had demanded in terms of parents just having 397 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: their right to choose, and others did not. And the 398 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: statistical significance of the two control groups, the masks schools 399 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: and the non mask schools, there was no difference. And 400 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: that's because mask don't work, and that is and remains 401 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: a significant fact. So you have the Surgeon General of 402 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the United States spreading a lie, propagating a falsehood, and 403 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: then you have the surgeon general of the State of Florida. 404 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: I think both of them by the way, are Harvard 405 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: mds actually sharing the data from Florida. And remember, the 406 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: biggest study the CBC did was in the state of Georgia, 407 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: and that was a big part of the science behind 408 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: the article about masking kids in New York magazine, David's 409 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: wigs piece. And I think that involved I'm not mistaken 410 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: buck ninety thousand kids. I mean, it was a monstrous 411 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: control experimental group. Because a lot of these studies, like 412 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure the one in Maricopa County or whatever they're 413 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: trying to cite, are tiny numbers of kids and there's 414 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: almost no statistical significance to them. We've got the whole 415 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: state of Florida, we have a huge portion of the 416 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: state of Georgia, both proving that masking doesn't make sense. 417 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, we got all these countries overseas 418 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: that have done studies and their kids aren't wearing. The 419 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: UK has said no mask for kids in schools because 420 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: they look at the data and it's just not there. 421 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: The numbers just not there. Going back to this study 422 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: that the surgeon in general, we're supposed to, Oh, he's 423 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: an expert, you're supposed to listen to this guy you're 424 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: talking about twenty one percent of these schools had a 425 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: mask requirement since the beginning of the school year. Thirty percent, 426 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Adam win later forty eight percent never mandated masks at all. 427 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: They have no they're just looking at this. And by 428 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: the way, they only picked sixteen percent of counties to 429 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: analyze in their own state, and one fifth roughly of 430 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: your counties that are changing masks. No masks, maybe masks, 431 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: and then you're coming up with this number. It's absurd. 432 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: In Florida, it's very straightforward. Some schools had mandates, some 433 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: schools did not. Did the schools with mandates do better 434 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: than the schools without mandates? And by the way, it's 435 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: not a ban on masks, it's choice. No, you allow 436 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: children to go to school with the choice. There was 437 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: no difference statistically whatsoever. They ran a control group study 438 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: the mask maniacts are wrong. But more than anything else, Clay, 439 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: they're the people, I think who are still terrified, you know, gosh, 440 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, a little little Timmy or little Susie's gonna 441 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: get COVID and they just can't look at reality. And 442 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: then there are the people for whom it's really just about. 443 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: They don't want to feel like they've been not that 444 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: smart this whole time. You know that they think of 445 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: masking their kids was the responsible thing to do. They 446 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: don't want to find out at this point. Oh my gosh, 447 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean even right now. I'll tell you this. October nineteenth, 448 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: a professor at Harvard University's chance A School of Public 449 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: Health wrote a piece on how schools should do away 450 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: with mass mandates by the end of the year. This 451 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: is just crazy, and we just need to have a 452 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: decision made. It's done end of this year, meaning December done, 453 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: no more met. Chris's break could basically go away. And 454 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: this is why I think it's so important, because that's 455 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: what we actually have to do. We actually just have 456 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: to all come together and agree we're not doing some 457 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: of these things anymore. Not maybe we'll do it again, 458 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: or we're waiting, and let's check the data and all 459 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: this other stuff we have on the experiment. The Fauciites 460 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: were wrong, end of story. But the pushback on this is, 461 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be fierce because it's become it's 462 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: not just about the science, as we've done all along, 463 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: it's about political power and control well and what's also 464 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: wild and infuriating about this buck is when you actually 465 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: look at, like we said, the data, they're still saying 466 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: even with five to eleven year olds being vaccinated. We 467 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: played this from Rachelle Willinski, the director of the CDC yesterday. 468 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: She said, masking's not going to go away, even when 469 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: people five to eleven can get vaccinated. Now, I said, 470 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: you can come after me if you want. I'm sure 471 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: people will. I'm not getting my young kids vaccinated for 472 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: COVID because they have no risk of COVID, right. I 473 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: think they've already had it. My wife and I have 474 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: had it. I think they probably have antibodies. I think 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: they've been fine. That's what the data would likely suggest 476 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: in my own household. But if you are terrified of COVID, 477 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: get your kids vaccinated. That's your choice. But why in 478 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: the world should everybody still have to wear masks when 479 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: anyone can get the vaccine that they want. You know, 480 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: how we say these things, then we keep hammer the 481 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: numbers and the data, and we know that this audience. 482 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: But but it's also important that I feel like we're 483 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: equipping you know, we are a truth force multiplier here 484 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: on the show. You know, we we are you know, 485 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: God bless SF guy special Forces, but they go in 486 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: they train indigenous to be able to fight on behalf 487 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: of us interests. We are like that with the truth 488 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: and the data here, right, we're trying to give people 489 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: the facts of the numbers so that when they sit 490 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: down to the Thanksgiving table and someone says, oh, my 491 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: children can't they're gonna they're at such a risk from COVID. 492 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: And just to remind everybody that it's not just stuff 493 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: that we're saying. It's not that we're not pulling that 494 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: a thin air. This Washington Post article that I just 495 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned you a Harvard public health professor. So usually 496 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: libs like Harvard when it goes in their favor, they're 497 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: like Harvard. He cites the same quote low risk for 498 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: kids holds true for mortality were the risk for five 499 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: to eleven year olds has consistently been about one per million. 500 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: It is a one in a million risk, my friends, 501 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: we're not exaggerating. That is the actual mortality risk. So 502 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: when people think they're so smart, what about measles? The 503 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: risk of death from measles for a child is one 504 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: in a thousand. Yeah, that's very different from one in 505 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: a million. I think we all understand that. And the 506 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: one in a million, Buck, I think it's also important 507 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: to note many of those kids have massive underlying medical conditions. Right, 508 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: we're not talking about young, healthy kids that are dying 509 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: with COVID. Most of the kids that are dying and 510 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: I wish there were none, but most of them that 511 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: are dying are. 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We welcome 539 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 540 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. We are rolling through the Thursday. 541 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: I had to think they're for a minute, Buck, I 542 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: was like, what, Dan, it's the Thursday edition of the program. 543 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: We're about to be joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. 544 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: She's going to weigh in on a bunch of different issues, 545 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: including Fauci now basically being caught in a lie. She 546 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: is demanding that he resigned. I think there's a lot 547 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: of Republicans out there that are going to demand a 548 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: criminal investigation into whether or not doctor Fauci has committed perjury. 549 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: All of that continues to build. We will discuss it 550 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: also the Netflix controversy. But the biggest election that is 551 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: going to happen in twenty twenty one is going to 552 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: be what's going on in Virginia governatorial race. And what 553 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: is happening is the most recent Monmouth poll that came 554 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: out shows now Buck a dead heat forty six percent 555 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: for Yunkin, forty six percent for Terry McAuliffe, and McAuliffe 556 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: is filling the heat. He stormed out of an interview 557 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: because he was unhappy with the questions that he was 558 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: being asked there. He now is arguing that Glenn Yunkin 559 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump two point zero, which is the court 560 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: sort of desperate ploy that is brought to bear now 561 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: anytime we've got potentially a tight race, and I think 562 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: this is gonna end up being significant. Richmond's schools have 563 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: just decided that their teachers are too stressed, so they're 564 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: going to take a week off out of nowhere. Buck 565 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: This is crazy and certainly is working against mcculliffe because 566 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: the whole race seems to be boiling down to public education. 567 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Loudon County became the front line in the battle between 568 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: parents and critical race theory indoctrination, which has now turned 569 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Virginia into a frontline state in that fight, and the 570 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: governor's race is mirroring that battle in many ways. I mean, 571 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: you can see Glenn Youngkin, what is he hammered? Because 572 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: the people there are certain things that at the state 573 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: level really matters. There's only so much. You know, if 574 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: you're the governor of Virginia, the federal tax rate, you 575 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: could say, oh, I don't want them to raise taxes 576 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: the federal but you're not going to be able to 577 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: do anything about that. Right. State level schools matter a 578 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: lot to people, matters a lot to counties and localities, 579 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: and the governor plays a huge role in all of this. 580 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: And that's why Glenn Younkin is talking about a whole 581 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: range of issues that affect the schools, including safety issues, 582 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: school resource officers. Here you go. We are going to 583 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: take immediate action in regards to our kids safety. Our 584 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: kids can't wait first. When I'm your governor working for you. 585 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Every school will be required to have school resource officers 586 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: on its campus, and let me be clear, they will 587 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: be on every campus, or that school will lose its funding. 588 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: If you are a school board and you refuse to 589 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: equip your schools with school resource officers to keep our 590 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: children safe, you will need to find your funding for 591 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: your school on your own. This is powerful stuff, Clay, 592 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: and it goes to an argument that actually, or rather 593 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: some reporting and then the arguments that came up in 594 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas shooting, when they 595 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: were conversations about should there be armed resource officers at schools? 596 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Why why was there such opposition to that in some schools, 597 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: in some school districts, in places, And there's this whole 598 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: notional left of the school to prison pipeline, and that 599 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: even when kids can kids commit violent crimes in school, 600 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: they shouldn't necessarily be reported to police or if they 601 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: if they commit if they commit a real offense. So 602 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: this is a pushback on it to say we actually 603 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: do need to have kids kept safe in school. The 604 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: law still applies in school, it's not all handled in house. 605 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: And because of what happened with that transgender student allegedly 606 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: assaulting the team girl and then that being covered up. 607 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: This has a lot of residence in the state of Virginia, 608 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. I'm glad you brought that up because Merrick 609 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: Garland is testifying today the Attorney General would have been 610 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice potentially. He said he didn't know 611 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: anything about that case. So this is Merritt Garland who 612 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: basically said the school board parents are domestic terrorists and 613 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we are investigating this 614 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: on behalf of the FBI in the Department of Justice. 615 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: And he then goes in front of Congress. This is 616 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: the thing that was written about in the Washington Post. 617 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: This is certainly a topic of major discussion. And Buck, 618 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: this is a lie. He said he didn't know anything 619 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: about this case. I mean, come on, you don't think 620 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: that he the Washington Post. You don't think that somebody 621 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: would tell him. Hey, just so you know, there's a 622 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: big pushback against your idea of classifying parents as domestic 623 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: terrorists investigating school board meetings. And by the way, one 624 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: of the guys that has most virally been a quote wrongdoer, 625 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: his daughter may have gotten sexually assaulted by a transgender 626 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: student in Loudon County bathroom. You don't think the Attorney 627 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: general has been briefed on that case. I mean he 628 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: is lying buck unless they came in to talk to 629 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: him and he just started waving his arms and screaming, 630 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: don't tell me a word about this, so I can 631 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: say that I don't know anything about it. I mean, 632 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: he knew he's gonna go on Capitol Hill and so 633 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: he didn't want to have to be answering questions. Because 634 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: when you start to add all this together in Virginia, 635 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: what do you have? You have slimy Terry mccauliffe running 636 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: around talking about how parents shouldn't have a shay and 637 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: what their kids are being taught in schools. Let's leave 638 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: that to the teachers unions who decide things like we 639 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: need a week long naptime. You know, we needed to 640 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: take off time because we're so stressed. And also has 641 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: the backing of a Sorroast backed defund the police and 642 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: mass incarceration prosecutor who doesn't want to go after real 643 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: crime but wants to put the dad of an assaulted 644 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: team girl in prison because he's upset about the transgender 645 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: student attacking his daughter in the bathroom. All this looks 646 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: really bad for Terry McCall iff. I gotta say, Glenn 647 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: Younkin's got some momentum and you need, if you are 648 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: listening to us in Virginia, to get out and vote, 649 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: because it's a massive message you can send. When we 650 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: come back, we'll be joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn. We'll 651 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: talk about Fauci's lies. We're trying to spread truth and 652 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: justice every single day, and I think in this first 653 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: hour we did a pretty good job of it. We'll 654 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: keep it up an hour two and hour three. Marsha Blackburn. Next, 655 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging with us. 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