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Speaker 1: It's me John Middlecoff. Hopefully everyone's having a great day.

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Speaker 1: Three now podcasts. Super Bowl week. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk a little football. But I mean the story

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Speaker 1: of the day, at least football wise, Miles Garrett has

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Speaker 1: asked for a trade, so we will dive into that.

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Speaker 1: Some other NFL topics. A lot going on around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Now Miles Garrett hasn't been moved yet, but typically there

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Speaker 1: with how Brady bounced it. I really don't think he cares.

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Speaker 1: The only way that I see it becoming an issue

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Speaker 1: is if other owners make it a big deal and

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Speaker 1: until they do that, like Roger doesn't care because you

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Speaker 1: get one of the most famous guys in league history

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Speaker 1: on your broadcast, which whether he's good or bad, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it's still positive for the league. He's not

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Speaker 1: that bad, but I mean he's watchable, and they clearly

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Speaker 1: just you know, I think you like having a good

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Speaker 1: relationship with your super superstar players. He claimed that the

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Speaker 1: chiefs officiating conversation is a ridiculous theory and things on

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Speaker 1: the internet can grow to a life of their own.

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Speaker 1: He's not wrong, but so yeah, you know Roger, he's

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Speaker 1: this is a big week for him. This is when

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Speaker 1: this is you know, in the business of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: they have a lot of people that spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of money and obviously the TV partners, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a huge week for Fox, but also all their beer sponsors,

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Speaker 1: all the people that are a part of their operation

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Speaker 1: that spend a lot of money. For the individual teams,

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Speaker 1: this is the week when you bring them and their

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Speaker 1: executive team and the teams that work on the projects

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Speaker 1: for you, and you wine and dine them and they

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Speaker 1: get to enjoy and they get the VIP experience and

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Speaker 1: that's when you hear people say this is a corporate event.

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Speaker 1: That's what they mean as a corporate event, because the

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Speaker 1: corps lights, the bud lights, the verizons, the you fucking

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Speaker 1: name it, who spend millions of dollars and sign one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars long term deals with the league, Like

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Speaker 1: this is really about them. And then kind of the

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Speaker 1: two fan bases of the of the teams, but like

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Speaker 1: the number one goal for the league is to make

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Speaker 1: sure those people have a good time. Chip Kelly we

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Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. I was a little befuddled, might

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Speaker 1: be the right word. Perplexed, just don't really see the fit.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little weird with Pete and Chip

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Speaker 1: also was a little taken back. The Chip would keep

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Speaker 1: bouncing around, kind of like an NBA player. That's just

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Speaker 1: a mercenary. And then I I saw that Albert Breer

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Speaker 1: reported that he got six million dollars a year and

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly is now the highest paid coordinator in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna think I'm a hater, and there's nothing

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Speaker 1: else I can say to debunk that. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know how your take couldn't be that is absurd. That

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Speaker 1: is insanity. Vic Fangioe, who I think was the highest

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Speaker 1: paid coordinator before this, making a little over four million dollars,

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Speaker 1: I would say, Howie, listen, you're gonna have to talk

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Speaker 1: to Jeffrey for me because I can't coach Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: till I make more than Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly's worked

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Speaker 1: in the NFL for four seasons. One of them is

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Speaker 1: the worst season the history of the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: history of the franchise. The previous season in Philadelphia with

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Speaker 1: games left on the schedule, Big Dom had to escort

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Speaker 1: him out of the building. And I get that. He

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Speaker 1: just won national championship with Ohio State. Who has like

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Speaker 1: an unlimited great players, who has a receiver that we

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Speaker 1: all agree who's nineteen years old, would be I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he'd be the number one overall pick in

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Speaker 1: this draft A dual carter probably still would because the

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Speaker 1: defensive end, but this could be a top five pick.

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Speaker 1: They have multiple they have just star players everywhere, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: their offense decent. I saw him when he played the

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Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverines. Who who's their coordinator? Oh yeah, an NFL guy,

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Speaker 1: Wink Martindale beat the fuck out of him? How does

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Speaker 1: it make any sense? I don't get it. And the

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Speaker 1: other thing, clearly it's not like Chip just like I

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Speaker 1: really want to work in the NFL, right Because he's

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Speaker 1: making two and a half million dollars at Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: you know, the average coordinator like him, he's got, you know,

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Speaker 1: some leverage because if he makes okay, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll pay you three three and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 1: In what world do you have to pay him six

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Speaker 1: million dollars? So it shows you like, did he really

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Speaker 1: want the job? Or did you just pay him a

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Speaker 1: three year contract worth eighteen million dollars? Like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can't turn that down. I just think I think it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I applauded the higher with Pete Carroll. Obviously I

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Speaker 1: love the John Spytech higher, but being forced to give

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly the highest contract in the history of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Like I saw Todd Munkin, who listen, we can nitpick

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Speaker 1: all we want in these playoff games? In what world?

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Speaker 1: Who just signed a new contract? Could Todd Munkin, as

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Speaker 1: an NFL coordinator has been doing it for a long

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Speaker 1: time make less money than Chip Kelly. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: a lot of owners are like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: It's one thing when you give a guy like Spagnola

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Speaker 1: who's done it at the highest level, one you championships

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Speaker 1: and it's all It's clear, right because a lot of

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Speaker 1: coordinators in the NFL are head coaches, so they're in

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Speaker 1: a different bucket. But let's go Spags. If Chip Kelly's

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Speaker 1: were six, what spags worth twenty? I mean one of

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's flaws when he was in the NFL as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, last offensive coordinator, his teams didn't do

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Speaker 1: that well against physical defenses. They got tossed around. Why

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Speaker 1: it's a little soft. Now you can say the game

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Speaker 1: has changed a little bit since then. Not totally wrong,

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Speaker 1: and Chip has I would They continues to attempt to innovate.

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Speaker 1: But six million dollars. I feel like right now the

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Speaker 1: Raiders because they've made so much more money moving to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: They got this influx of cash with Brady and all

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Speaker 1: these venture capitalist guys. This is a place where coaches

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Speaker 1: go to rop them like Mark, you just how could

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Speaker 1: you go? Yeah, this is listen, I'm not here to

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Speaker 1: medal not here to medal. If you wanted to give

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Speaker 1: six million dollars to Spagnola, to Kevin O'Connell, to whoever

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Speaker 1: the brightest young coordinator is who's kicking ass taking names.

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Speaker 1: I could be convinced, but this guy is crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's insanity. I think Joe Burrow, speaking of money, I

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Speaker 1: think he's trying to kind of go like Lebron on

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. He gave He was interviewed the other day

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Speaker 1: on Series XM, and he basically said that I feel

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Speaker 1: like we can retain all of our star players I Jamar,

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Speaker 1: Chase t Higgins, and Trey Henderson. The problem is and

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Speaker 1: Duke Tobin and the Bengals ownership have talked about like

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Speaker 1: we can't pay six guys off top of the market money.

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Speaker 1: That's not really the way the business works. And they're

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Speaker 1: not totally wrong, and I understand where Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 1: coming from, like obviously Chase is going nowhere, but I

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Speaker 1: do not want to lose the other two guys. And

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Speaker 1: if you're Joe Burrow, you definitely don't want to lose

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Speaker 1: to t Higgins because that impacts you and you're no dummy,

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Speaker 1: you know how hard it is to find a guy

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Speaker 1: like Hendrickson. I think he's trying to do it, but

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Speaker 1: like you know, this is not the NBA, and this

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Speaker 1: is a situation where I don't know if it's gonna change.

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Speaker 1: You're dealing with an old, stubborn owner, like you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with a guy who it was very difficult for him

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Speaker 1: to change with you, and you are a quarterback and

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Speaker 1: it's clear how hard it is to find that position.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd got to listen. We'll find another T Higgins.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know if he's totally wrong on

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Speaker 1: that because I saw a report today I think from

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowler, the T Higgins is gonna want thirty plus

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Well, if he wants thirty plus

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year, what's Jamar Chase gonna want fifty?

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Speaker 1: And I saw it last year like if forty nineers

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Speaker 1: could do it over, they just want to trade a

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Speaker 1: Brandon I before the draft, that would have been the

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Speaker 1: right move. So you got to be very careful with

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Speaker 1: paying your number two wide receiver or the guy giving

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Speaker 1: you number two production. But I do think with Hendrickson,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? What the guy walk out

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Speaker 1: of the building, you'd be nuts. I think Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is starting to realize, like, guys, I see some of

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Speaker 1: these teams. I mean, I got the Raiders. The fucking

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Speaker 1: Raiders are giving Chip Kelly six million dollars a year

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Speaker 1: to call offense. We better figure out how to generate

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Speaker 1: some money here because it used to be like the

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Speaker 1: Raiders in the Bengals, poorest teams in the league. Well

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Speaker 1: they ain't the Raiders anymore. So, Mike brown Man, pressure

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Speaker 1: is on. I want to do something new here and

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome you to Chasing Challenges and it's

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Speaker 1: brought to you by my friends at Microsoft and in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Just like in the business world, overcoming obstacles

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Speaker 1: is key to success. Microsoft empowers business decisions make business

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Speaker 1: decision makers with AI solutions, simplified cloud and data management,

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Speaker 1: and trustworthy, responsible technology to turn challenges into opportunities. In

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Speaker 1: this segment, we'll explore some of the biggest challenges being

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Speaker 1: faced in the NFL and how these teams are going

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Speaker 1: to overcome. Whatever the challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you

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Speaker 1: with the expertise to say bring it all. This week,

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Speaker 1: we're discussing the challenge faced by the Eagles and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing was Super Bowl Week when I

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Speaker 1: was you know, when the Super Bowl came to San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: I was working in radio, so I was working downtown

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. I was immersed that week radio row and everything,

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Speaker 1: and I was doing stuff on local television. So I

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Speaker 1: was just seeing the players on Monday Tuesday all over

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Speaker 1: the city. And I remember not really seeing the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see them anywhere. And I saw the Panthers everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Remember just running into players like on the corner of streets.

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Speaker 1: They're just enjoying the experience. It's like, made it to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What an incredible accomplishment. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's very very difficult for certain players, especially young players,

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Speaker 1: to not be I would say, overwhelmed by the experience. Now, Luckily,

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Speaker 1: both these teams, I mean, the Chiefs win it every year.

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Speaker 1: So the Mahomes, the Chris Jones, the Kelsey's, the McDuffie's,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got even some of their younger players.

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Speaker 1: But what about like Jalen Carter, Xavier Worthy, the Eagles

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Speaker 1: new draft picks, Quinnon Mitchell, Right, I mean, these guys

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Speaker 1: even though these were blue chip first round players. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Carter's won an NCAA championship. I think he won two.

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Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy was just in the college football playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: have been to a high level of football with a

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Speaker 1: lot of hoopla around it, but there's nothing like this.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like this week because it's two weeks and

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Speaker 1: you spend all week there and really Monday, you practice

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Speaker 1: a little bit and I'm recording this before the thing

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Speaker 1: tonight you go to the quote unquote Media Night, which

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Speaker 1: but still just a just a lot of hooplah and

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Speaker 1: you get Tuesday off and you get moments to kind

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Speaker 1: of just do whatever you want to do. And this

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Speaker 1: is New Orleans, like there is a lot to do there,

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Speaker 1: and you got family, you got cousins, you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in your life, and you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to lean if you're the Eagles, obviously, the coaches can

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Speaker 1: tell you whatever they want, and you're gonna need the

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Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's, the Brandon Grahams, you know those guys because

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and Fletcher coxs are gone now. You know, when

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Speaker 1: they made it last time, they had a really, really

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Speaker 1: veteran team. Now they're pretty dependent on some very young players, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Mitchell, Cooper Dejen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are clearly elite players, but this week to focus

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Speaker 1: it on football, and as pat Riley says, make the

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Speaker 1: main thing the main thing, keep the main thing the

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Speaker 1: main It can be difficult put yourself in those shoes.

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Speaker 1: If you're Xavier worthy. It's easy for mahomes In, Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelcey and these guys are We are losing already legends.

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Speaker 1: I feel like everywhere like I'm in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: like this is freaking sweet. Probably invite some of your

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Speaker 1: boys to fight your family whoever who wants to come,

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Speaker 1: let's row. So I think it's a big challenge just

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Speaker 1: to keep everyone focused. It's not easy on the coaches,

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Speaker 1: on the players, on the veteran guys. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, like this is the pros and

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Speaker 1: as a player, like it is somewhat on you to

646
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Speaker 1: try to drown out the noise, kind of keep the

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Speaker 1: tunnel vision. It's much easier said than done. So very

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Speaker 1: very interested to see how you know the young players

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Speaker 1: like what the teams do to kind of keep those

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Speaker 1: guys locked in. So that's it for this week's chasing challenges.

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Speaker 1: learn something more. Okay, let's do a little middle cough

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Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

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Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those dms. I actually just saw before

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Speaker 1: I hopped on that the Rams will try to trade

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup this offseason, aka in the next month. Basically

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Speaker 1: at the combine, I think the problem and you see

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Speaker 1: this happen with a lot of older veteran players who

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Speaker 1: make a lot of money but no longer produce to

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Speaker 1: that salary. Is there not really a tradable player. And

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who's battled injuries, super high character,

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Speaker 1: hard worker, still blocks his ass off, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of he makes twenty million dollars next season and he's

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Speaker 1: just not a twenty million dollars player at this point.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that he can't have a bounce back year.

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Speaker 1: But we see this song and dance every single offseason

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Speaker 1: like they're gonna have to cut them. Cooper Cups going

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Speaker 1: to be cut, and then you know he's gonna sign

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Speaker 1: for way less than twenty million dollars and someone's gonna

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Speaker 1: hope that they can catch lighting in a bottle. He

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Speaker 1: has a big season, he stays healthy, but based on

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Speaker 1: his salary, he just I don't see how he's a

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Speaker 1: tradable asset, even for teams like like the Patriots, who

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Speaker 1: are gonna want like the Jets. All these teams we

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Speaker 1: get new coaches, the Raiders that are gonna want like

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Speaker 1: high character, winning players, dudes that are about the right shit,

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Speaker 1: practice their ass off kind of set the tone. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I can pay twenty million dollars for that,

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Speaker 1: So I think he's just gonna get cut now. Maybe

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Speaker 1: those teams can overpay him once he's released, But you know,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cups the first of many guys coming down the

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Speaker 1: line here that are just not going to be on

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Speaker 1: their teams. Listen to the latest mail bag, Dune is Badass.

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Speaker 1: Definitely check it out. Actually might I'm flying to New

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Speaker 1: Orleans in the morning. Maybe I'll download that on on

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Speaker 1: the old iPad. I probably should read a book, you know,

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Speaker 1: I always tell myself I bring a book. I got

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Speaker 1: a book right now that's been in my kind of

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00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: laptop book bag carrying case thing you know that goes

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Speaker 1: on your shoulder that like mature adults are supposed to wear.

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Speaker 1: It basically just sits on my on my lower in

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Speaker 1: my office the whole time. But I've had this book

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Speaker 1: never split the difference. It's like a negotiating book in

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Speaker 1: there for like three years, and every time like this

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Speaker 1: is the time I'm going to redon the plane, and

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Speaker 1: then I just don't end up watching like four episodes

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Speaker 1: of some stupid show. Question for the mailbag. Every year

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00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL things happen that are totally unexpected. Darnold

703
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: is good, Washington goes the NFC championship, Dallas sucks, the

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Speaker 1: Niners suck. In twenty twenty five, what are some crazy

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Speaker 1: things you could see happen that would blindside the NFL

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00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: fans and media would be a better question for July

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Speaker 1: and August, but wanted to put this on your radar.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's difficult to do this like in February,

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Speaker 1: because Cooper Cup's a good example. The amount of players

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Speaker 1: that get cut before free agency that are just big

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00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: names is pretty high. And then we will see massive trades,

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00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: right like who is going to trade for Miles Garrett?

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Speaker 1: Does he get traded? Like what happens? You know? And

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Speaker 1: then obviously the quarterbacks that get drafted and move teams.

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Speaker 1: So I hear what you're saying. I think it's just

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00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: way too early to even think about one thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you learn following the league and working the league and

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Speaker 1: just talking about football NonStop. It's so cliche when coaches

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Speaker 1: say this is like every year is a new year.

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Speaker 1: Every team when the season starts is different from the

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Speaker 1: previous years. And they say that not because like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes Kelsey, like a lot of guys are saying, you

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Speaker 1: get a lot of turnover, you know, depending on how

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Speaker 1: good and bad your team is. I mean, you're getting fifteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty percent. I mean some of these teams, I

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Speaker 1: mean the Jets, some of the bad teams, the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be massive, massive purgase. So I think It's

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Speaker 1: just really hard to do that right now, but I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll definitely we're gonna need some content in

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Speaker 1: the summer, so we will do that as well. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are asking me, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big golf better you boy, just hit the Rory

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Speaker 1: bet over the weekend. You know, I haven't been. We

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Speaker 1: haven't been doing the Golo pod. We'll start that after

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Speaker 1: super Bowl week or within the next couple weeks for sure.

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Speaker 1: But who I'm gambling on, because I do gamble on golf.

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Speaker 1: I do like Scotti Scheffler this week now you get him,

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Speaker 1: he's like three and a half four to one on DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: Some other guys that I like is like top tens

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Speaker 1: and twenties. Tom Kim, younger guy who who's on Tiger's

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Speaker 1: team in the TGL. He's pretty electric, young kid, kind

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Speaker 1: of small, doesn't hit that long, is actually getting longer

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Speaker 1: in distance. He's a really good player, and to me,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a bright lights. He's good in the

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Speaker 1: President's Cup like, I like him a lot. This weekend

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Speaker 1: Top twenty, top ten, if you want to sprinkle and

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Speaker 1: get aggressive, top five, top you know to win it.

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Speaker 1: But to me. Listen, Scotty Scheffers, odds are pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: He's won this tournament before. I play this course a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's Taylor made for him in pebble. He's coming off

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Speaker 1: ripping his hand open and he's still finished, like tied

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Speaker 1: for eighth or seventh. He'll be fine. So Tom, Tom,

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Speaker 1: Kim Thigala are a couple guys I like as top

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Speaker 1: tens and twenties had to download the redownload the Graham

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Speaker 1: after two years of not dming, you reemphasize your belief

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Speaker 1: on not taking a top wide receiver over the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I wholeheartedly agree playing armchair GM. When Pete

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Speaker 1: took Witherspoon at five over Carter, I agreed at the

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00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: time given the character. But is this just overthinking it.

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Speaker 1: If he had done that, we could have moved up

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Speaker 1: for Nicks the next year instead of taking Byron Murphy.

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00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: Murphy is good, but he's not Carter. Even if we

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Speaker 1: took Paris Johnson the year after we took Cross the

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Speaker 1: left tackle feels like the Hawks and john are not

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Speaker 1: emphasizing a need we get desperate four years good backers,

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Speaker 1: good secondary elite pass catchers, and back obviously need a

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the future, but it's so hard to get one.

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Speaker 1: Please get me help. Let me say this. I think

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Speaker 1: when you factor in character and you factor in off

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Speaker 1: the field stuff, that's the curveball. So like they took Witherspoon,

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Speaker 1: who went healthy. He's a really, really good player. I

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Speaker 1: can't fault you for Pete Carroll not being comfortable with

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Speaker 1: the player. He had taken flyers before on guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: Pete's pretty liberal when it comes to like judging people's character.

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they have taken some serious flyers and some

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00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: of them worked, you know. I mean early on he

777
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: got Marshawn for a fourth that worked out really well

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Speaker 1: and it was good fit for him. But they've also

779
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: had some Percy Harvin's. They've had some remember Malik McDowell.

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Speaker 1: I mean you would because you're a fan, but very huge.

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Speaker 1: Red Flag was a bad situation. So I think Pete

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00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: Carroll understands how important drafting Jalen Carter, but it's like

783
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: he didn't trust the person, and given where their franchise was,

784
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: he didn't think they were equipped to handle it. I

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00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: think if it's Lob he brings him in with Richard

786
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Speaker 1: Truman and that crew. So I think if he had

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Speaker 1: passed on like Jalen, I don't think he passed on

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, if he's just a normal character guy, if

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Speaker 1: he hadn't been in a car accident where multiple people

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00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: died and left the scene and then had to leave

791
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: the combine to check himself into jail. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think I give you. I give Pete Carroll a pass

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Speaker 1: on that one mail back. Theoretically, if you were a

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Speaker 1: commissioner and you were able to cut the number of

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00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: NBA games in half and only a forty, do you

796
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: think that would solve a lot of the problems that

797
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: the NBA has players sitting out, not carrying games, feeling insignificant.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think you can really play that game.

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Speaker 1: We do that a lot with baseball and basketball. Their sports,

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00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: their sport like, you play a lot of games in

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Speaker 1: baseball and basketball, starting in college. In college basketball you

802
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: play two to three games a week. College baseball you

803
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: play Tuesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You know, a huge part

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Speaker 1: of those sports you play a ton at a young age.

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00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: You know football. Everyone tries to mimic or copy football

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Speaker 1: in terms of the setup of the lack of games.

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Speaker 1: If football could play fifty games, they would, You just

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Speaker 1: physically can't. I mean, it's we're stretching at eighteen. So

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Speaker 1: I think we always do play less Major League Baseball games,

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Speaker 1: play less NBA games. I don't know if that's going

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Speaker 1: to change. I hear a lot of people go go

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Speaker 1: from eighty two to seventy, Okay, then guys are still

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Speaker 1: going to sit out. So I hear what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's a little overrated. Longtime listener, in

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Speaker 1: a lifelong Notre Dame fan, we obviously had an incredible run,

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Speaker 1: but I can't help but notice that the Irish never

817
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Speaker 1: seem to have top tier, explosive white There are some

818
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: obvious outliers, but compared to other elite programs, we never

819
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: seem to land the big name. What will it take

820
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: to start bringing in those top tier guys? Should Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame focus more nil on whiteouts, or as Marcus Freeman,

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Speaker 1: build a strong enough culture to stay the course with

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Speaker 1: tough defense and incredibly good run game to winnati, who

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Speaker 1: are your outliers Golden Tate, Chase, Claypool. I think it's

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Speaker 1: difficult because you know, for the most part. I would say,

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Speaker 1: when you think Notre Dame, you don't think sweet wideouts

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Speaker 1: and sweet dbs, right, but you're able to get really

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Speaker 1: good defensive linemen in I think you have to look

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Speaker 1: at it from an academic standpoint. You have high academic standards.

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Speaker 1: So when Stanford was really good under Harbaugh and David Shaw,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have that many sweet wide receivers either. Doug Baldwin,

832
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Speaker 1: you know Sherman was a wide receiver, moved a corner.

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Speaker 1: But they won't exactly like Marcus Freeman's plan, get a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback, dominate the line of scrimmage, and be tougher.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's just kind of the way unless

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Speaker 1: you're gonna move like you have no like Ohio Sate.

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Speaker 1: It is no academic standards or LSU or Georgia to

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Speaker 1: get a player into school. If you're good enough, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting you into school, period point blank. In the story,

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Speaker 1: you guys have them, and if I was a fan,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, can we throw them away for some players?

842
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: And clearly they don't. You know, when Brian Kelly said

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00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: that I'm leaving to go to LSU too, because I

844
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Speaker 1: think I can win a national championship there. He was

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Speaker 1: simply saying, the academic requirements are lower. That's all he

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00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: was saying. He can't say that out loud, but that's

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Speaker 1: what he was saying. I can get anyone I want

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Speaker 1: into school, and I couldn't do that Notre Dame. Which

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Speaker 1: how much longer are we even going to play this

850
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: game where school even factors in, it's probably coming to

851
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: an end. What team do you think would be ideal

852
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: for Belichick to return to the NFL? Personally, I think

853
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: it's the Bengals. Taylor might be on his way out

854
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: if the Bengals missed the playoffs next year, and Bill

855
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: has a history of doing more with less on special

856
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: teams in defense, since the Bengals are allergic to spending

857
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: big money on anyone not named Burrell and Chase, we'll

858
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: say no. You know my hot take is gonna be

859
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill ever comes back. I think if

860
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Bill have success this year, and success for Bill could

861
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: be I don't know, nine to three, but it just

862
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: gains momentum and it looks like he's got something there.

863
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: I think I could just see him doing that. His

864
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: kids there, his buddy Micha Lombardi's there. I just if

865
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, I would bet on Bill

866
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: being there for three or four years. I really would.

867
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm ignorant.

868
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: But if it goes well, I could see Bill Belichick

869
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: being there. Now, what if it goes back? What if

870
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: he goes six and six? Is he still desirable? I

871
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: mean probably is, but there is a chance that his

872
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Belichick's name diminishes a little bit if they were to

873
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: not have a good season. It's hard to even know,

874
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't fall college football recruiting well enough,

875
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: and it's so hard to even tell because guys changed

876
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: rosters all the time, Like is team good? Who's his quarterback?

877
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Like what? And who knows? I mean we'll find out springball,

878
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: And who ares coaches? Who are is coaches? They keep

879
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: pushing back on that. It's like, well, do you have

880
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: a staff? I know he's hired some guys. What does

881
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: it take for the Bills to fire McDermott next year?

882
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: I think Sean would have to pull like a Zach

883
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: Taylor and miss the playoffs. If they continue to be

884
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: the number two seed and make it the AFC championship game,

885
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna fire the guy. I just don't see it happening.

886
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: They have the same season, they do, win the AFC

887
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: East with ease, and then rattle off a couple of

888
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: playoff victories. I know we act like it's devastating, but

889
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: he's losing to Mahomes. He's losing to Mahomes and Andy Reid.

890
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: It's like he's out coached. Of course he is. Andy

891
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: Reid's a better coach. Who's out coaching Andy Reid? Not

892
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: John Harball, Like, who's out coaching him? I don't see

893
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: anyone out coaching him. Maybe Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh

894
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: could in a playoff game if they had a good

895
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: enough team. But those guys are better than Sean McDermott.

896
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: It's like, and you're not getting either one of those guys.

897
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: They got jobs. So who are you hiring? Elevate Joe Brady,

898
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: the guy that was running quarterback sneaks in the line

899
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I just don't see your options. I really don't.

900
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: I have a question for the podcast, what are your

901
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Cowboys hire of Schottenheimer. The Seahawks Adam

902
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator for three years, and in my opinion,

903
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: he was terrible and doesn't seem like a player friendly

904
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: coach or a guy that is respected by players. It

905
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: just seems to me that his hire as a head

906
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: coach was a lack of options by an out of

907
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: touch owner who impulsively hired him. And since the Cowboys

908
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: blew a chance at good coaching by waiting, a good

909
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: coaching hier by waiting, why wouldn't Jerry have waited a

910
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: little longer to get Kellen Moore. I just think he

911
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: would have been a better fit for the Cowboys, having

912
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: experienced in the organization. The thing I'll say about the

913
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: players is a bunch of Cowboys showed up to his

914
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: press conference and they were all hugging him after, and

915
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: the main one being Dak. And it's pretty clear like

916
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: Dak is pretty highly respected in that organization. So I

917
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: don't know if I could agree with you on the

918
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: player standpoint. Now, I don't know anyone with the Cowboys,

919
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: so it's not like I'm speaking beside side information, just

920
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: based on what I've seen, But I think a big

921
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: reason that they hired him is they thought the players

922
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: really liked them. I think that was a driving force

923
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: is They felt like, obviously Jerry can control him, and

924
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: he's relatively cheaper, but like the players like him. I

925
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: don't think he's hired if Dak Prescott and the players

926
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: are not on board. But yeah, I mean it's it's

927
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: an underwhelming, kind of out of left field. If I

928
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: would have told you December first that Brian Schottenheimer is

929
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: going to be their next coach, I don't think anyone

930
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: would have believed you. How do you view Kingsbury as

931
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: a head coach in the next hiring cycle. As a

932
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: Cardinal fan, I felt he had restraints on fully running

933
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: the offense he is running now with the Commanders. He

934
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: also has more connections in the league now to build

935
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: a staff, as I felt his position coaches were weak

936
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: when he was with the Cards. Two as an NFL scout,

937
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: were you responsible or partially responsible for finding a diamond

938
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: in the rough? I think that's fair. Maybe Cliff has grown.

939
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: Maybe his knowledge of knowing guys in the NFL now

940
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: is much wider given his time spent as an NFL

941
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: coach and now as an assistant. He's just got a

942
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: better quarterback, so the offense looks better. For sure. He

943
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: had a really good year. I mean, he was definitely

944
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: one of the standout coordinators in the NFL, especially non

945
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: head coach coordinator, and most you know, so many of

946
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: the hot offensive coordinators are also head coaches, but of

947
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: just the pure offensive coordinators, he was easily one of

948
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. I think with the Internet,

949
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: the diamond and the rough thing is something like from

950
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: the sixties, the seventies, the eighties. I just think the

951
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: Internet and the technology now has kind of changed the game.

952
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: Like if you run a four or two at some

953
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: little pro day that one scout is at, that information

954
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: gets out, you know, and it gets every team has

955
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: access to that. If you lead Division three as like

956
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: the all time leading tackler, or you know, you have

957
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: a twenty five touchdown, there's just no way to hide.

958
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: I think that is a term that pretty outdated. I

959
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: think when you see guys drafted higher than other we

960
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: have a different grade on you. But I think it

961
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: is very very rare for a player to be drafted

962
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: that every team in the league does not have draft

963
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: grades on which to me, a diamond in the rough.

964
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: In like the eighties, there would be guys drafted that

965
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: other teams would have never heard of. That does not

966
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: happen anymore. So I guess it's a long way. I

967
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: think it's kind of over. I mean, look at college football.

968
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: Think it used to happen a lot in college football.

969
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: Now with the expansion of rivals in the internet, you know,

970
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: if you get one offer, even if you're not like

971
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: a Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State guy. What if I just

972
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: get offered from San Diego State, then other teams in

973
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: my conference pay attention, then they might offer you, and

974
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: then the teams on the lower end of the power

975
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: force are paying attention, like who's this guy? And it's

976
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: just a trickle of you know, down effect. So it's

977
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: like it's like a domino. And I think it's just

978
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: I think the world's changed with that, and I think

979
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: most people in the NFL would agree. There is really

980
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: no such thing as a diamond in the rough. Now

981
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: there is in the sense that we believed in this guy.

982
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: Everyone thought he was an undrafted free agent. They laughed

983
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: at us. We took him in the fifth round and

984
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: he became a tenuere starter like that happens. But I

985
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: don't think it happens if we took this guy in

986
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: the sixth round. Half the league was like, who the

987
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: fuck is Billy Middlecoff. They're like, oh, this guy, he's

988
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: playing at Arizona Tech. Like Arizona Tech, what division is that? Oh?

989
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: Division four? Where'd you find this guy? Oh? This couple

990
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: guys told me about him, Like those days are over.

991
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag with the allegations against Justin Tucker,

992
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: if the Ravens had won the AFC and we're preparing

993
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, how do you think they would

994
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: handle this situation stand him down for the game, or

995
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: drag out the process and say they're doing an investigation

996
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: and let him play and deal with it in the offseason.

997
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I mean, obviously it's a hypothetical

998
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: we don't know the answer to. And I mean, beside

999
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: the headlines, I haven't really paid that much attention to it.

1000
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: I saw, you know, the allegations came out. Justin Tucker

1001
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: came back harder, rebuttal, and then more allegations came. I

1002
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: think your equity, you know, Justin Tucker has been on

1003
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: the team for what a decade longer than that, so

1004
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: his equity with Harbaugh, with the owner, with Dacosta's thirty

1005
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: five years old. He joined the Ravens in twenty twelve,

1006
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: so he's been on a team fourteen fifteen years. So

1007
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: I would say those John Harbaugh, a former Special teams coach,

1008
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: would have a pretty good feel for him as a

1009
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: guy and the equity and listen, you know everything the

1010
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: guy's doing outside the building, but you got a pretty

1011
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: good idea, like all these teams have legit security and

1012
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: they follow these guys and Ward gets out. So it's like,

1013
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: do you trust him? And it's just a he said

1014
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: she said? So there's no way, like you can prove

1015
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: any of it. But if you have no other information

1016
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: saying that he's guilty and he's telling you he's innocent,

1017
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: and he's been on your team for well over a decade,

1018
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: I would say he's one of the more definitive Special

1019
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: Teams players of my lifetime. In terms of this guy

1020
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: you can name like who's one of the great special

1021
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: teams who are the best kickers you've ever seen? Like,

1022
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: his name comes up pretty fast. So if they trust him,

1023
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: which I don't, you know, your guests is good as mine.

1024
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: What they actually feel about him, I clearly don't not

1025
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: like him. I don't I don't know necessarily about this issue,

1026
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: but my guess is he would play if he's taken

1027
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: the stance of I've done nothing, and they they would

1028
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: take his word for it would be my would be

1029
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: my educated guess of following football. A lot of you

1030
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: guys hit me with the wind on this the name

1031
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: for the fans, and I was thinking about, you know

1032
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys are firing in the DMS,

1033
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: like the Outlaws, the Outliers, the Click, the Posse, the

1034
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: cough Squad, the cough crew, all sorts of stuff. The

1035
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: coffers made me laugh. One I did not hate was crew,

1036
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: my crew with a K. I do think it has

1037
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: to be one word. It doesn't have to be football

1038
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: related either, but I think it does have to pop

1039
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: off the tongue. And I used the Jim Rome one

1040
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: when I was young. The clones, it just the clones.

1041
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: It just kind of works, you know. I think ending

1042
00:57:54,920 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: with an S helps the clones. You know Portnoy called

1043
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: the stooleis called it forever. I think you know some

1044
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: of these like the punt, the punt team right or

1045
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: the whatever. I think it's hard when it's like a statement.

1046
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: This one's not terrible the mailman, but I do think

1047
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: it has to I think when it ends in s

1048
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: it's a little bit better. Don't hate the mailmen. I

1049
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: do like the cough crew, or just the crew with

1050
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: K you could make hatch anyone that knows. Like those

1051
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: golfing hats that have like the letters k R e W.

1052
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: I think that would actually look kind of sick. But yeah,

1053
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: keep firing those in again, I'm crowdsourcing this, open to ideas,

1054
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: open to a lot of different ideas. I do think

1055
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: one word is is very important to get it to stick. Then,

1056
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: like a statement like the punting unit. I just I

1057
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: don't hate the idea like I know where I appreciate it.

1058
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: Everyone firing in those ideas, I just don't think it

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Speaker 1: really works. Again, could be wrong. I don't pretend to

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Speaker 1: have all the answers. But yeah, I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: to have dinner. Everyone, have a great day, and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk soon. So you the volume