Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Karissa is a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Aaron Big Day on the podcast today.
Speaker 1: Why you ask because one of my favorite people, one
Speaker 1: of your favorite coming on. Jalen Rose will be with
Speaker 1: us today. He has been our colleague at ESPN and
Speaker 1: over a Fox when I was there for Best damn
Speaker 1: Sports Show. So I'm excited. I didn't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was always Um, oh my gosh, Vicky sent me
Speaker 1: a picture. I've got to pull it up. Vicki's our
Speaker 1: wardrobe stylist at Fox, and she's been at Fox. She
Speaker 1: won't want me to say this, but for twenty five years. Um,
Speaker 1: she is the reason why. And again this is one
Speaker 1: of the many differences between the two networks that we've
Speaker 1: worked out. There is a wardrobe department at Fox. Most
Speaker 1: people would be surprised to know that. At ESPN there
Speaker 1: is no such thing. You don't get closed there. You
Speaker 1: had to buy your own clothes. I remember when Randy
Speaker 1: Moss left Fox and he went over to ESPN and goes,
Speaker 1: ct where's the wardrobe department? I go, there ain't none, Sorry, kid,
Speaker 1: good luck with all that. So and was, but Howie
Speaker 1: dressed ESPN? You can blame us speaking. Oh wait, you
Speaker 1: had this, well, I look for this picture Bobby Bowden
Speaker 1: passing away. Oh my god, I got really upset I saw.
Speaker 1: And again I say this lovingly because you did a
Speaker 1: flashback video when you were interviewing him, which was so
Speaker 1: classic interview. But it was the silk tops that we
Speaker 1: all wore in like some jewel tone that really, you know,
Speaker 1: was popped on camera. But I had to laugh all
Speaker 1: of it. But the not laughing part was how he
Speaker 1: was and how iconic and for that university. He was
Speaker 1: the head coach um of the Florida State Seminars for
Speaker 1: god twenty year. I mean, I don't know what his
Speaker 1: tenure was there, but what a great interview. Can you
Speaker 1: recap it for people that Yeah? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: when I put that interview up, somebody wrote on there
Speaker 1: this should have been part of the calm Down like
Speaker 1: podcast where you talked about, you know, all your different outfits.
Speaker 1: And then I did find a picture of me and
Speaker 1: coach on the field and it was in that pirate
Speaker 1: outfit that I wore when I was auditioning for Johnny
Speaker 1: Depp in a role. Yeah, and apparently doing Thursday night
Speaker 1: football all at the same time, but um, thanks, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was actually really sad. I I took
Speaker 1: time out the other day to read about the funeral
Speaker 1: and read about who went. I actually was texting with
Speaker 1: Kirk Herb Street who went to the funeral, and um oh,
Speaker 1: the picture that got me the most was when they
Speaker 1: were taken and his lovely wife and Bowden out of
Speaker 1: the car to walk into the capital. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is accurate. I may be misquoting this. I
Speaker 1: think my dad said he's the first non politician to
Speaker 1: have his casket at the capitol in Tallahassee. Seems fitting.
Speaker 1: And then the other picture, man I put it up
Speaker 1: on my Instagram really got me was his hat, his
Speaker 1: hat he always wore, and it was in the Florida
Speaker 1: State Cemetery where they put like all the like with
Speaker 1: the teams they have beaten, and I was just like, wow,
Speaker 1: that got me a lot, so much because obviously I
Speaker 1: went to the rival school, and um, he's such a
Speaker 1: fixture in the state I grew up in and went
Speaker 1: to college. But I probably, I was telling Jared, I
Speaker 1: probably did like fourteen fifteen Florida State games and over
Speaker 1: my eight year career so, um, what was he? What beauty?
Speaker 1: What a gem? Oh god, he was exactly the same. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that clip I posted on my Instagram. I
Speaker 1: think what went into it. First of all, I was brave.
Speaker 1: I was brave. You'd never be allowed to do that.
Speaker 1: I was following him, he was having words with the official,
Speaker 1: and I had stuck my microphone right in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: that girl had no fear. She was ready to go.
Speaker 1: She didn't care. Um that was cute. I missed that girl,
Speaker 1: by the way. Um she she she So. I I
Speaker 1: think what was happening was in the game before against
Speaker 1: Wake Forest, their offensive line had been penalized numerous amounts
Speaker 1: of time. I think it was a young offensive line
Speaker 1: because in my little voice, I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna tell those young guys? And He's like, what
Speaker 1: am I gonna tell him? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna tell him? How are you gonna
Speaker 1: fix it? And he was like, we gotta pray, you
Speaker 1: gotta pray, And like, you know, what do you say
Speaker 1: to that. Bobby Botten's got to tell you, Like, what
Speaker 1: is he going to tell his offensive line? They've got
Speaker 1: to start praying and start stop committing penalties and I
Speaker 1: just started cracking up, and Chris Bowler was amazing as
Speaker 1: always saying lean on a higher power. And then you
Speaker 1: got to Reese and Lou Holtz and Mark May Those
Speaker 1: were some good days, by the way. That was I
Speaker 1: love college football, but gosh, darn it, dad gummin in
Speaker 1: the words of Bobby Bowden, go from college football is
Speaker 1: a freaking time. Like god, I missed those days. It
Speaker 1: was just cute and innocent. It was fun. Um. I
Speaker 1: never got to cover an SEC game working for the
Speaker 1: Big Ten network, but it is. I mean, look, and
Speaker 1: even what's happening now, we're talking about a realignment with
Speaker 1: the big with the Pack twelve big a SEC to
Speaker 1: even combat at the powerhouse that is the SEC. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it speaks volumes that that conference is just what
Speaker 1: they have been now. Um, decade in and out, a
Speaker 1: decade in and out. Good English, but you know, over time.
Speaker 1: But you were so cute in that interview, and it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I tried to mute because we've got a freaking weed
Speaker 1: whacker going on out here. Apparently at the you hear it,
Speaker 1: You're great, okay, good, well, it must be the microphone.
Speaker 1: Thanks but you were saying that you love that girl.
Speaker 1: I was when I watched that was ballsy to throw
Speaker 1: a microphone in a conversation with a head coach and
Speaker 1: an official. But good for you, I mean when you
Speaker 1: think about and look ignorant. No, by the way, always
Speaker 1: ask forgiveness, not permission. What are they going to do
Speaker 1: in that moment. By the way, he didn't tell you
Speaker 1: to take that microphone back. No one did. And ESPNS
Speaker 1: credit like airing that. But it didn't say anything bad.
Speaker 1: I mean think about you know, there's a lot of yeah.
Speaker 1: And then it was so cute because he said to
Speaker 1: the official, he goes, or, are you going to give
Speaker 1: the other team of penalty? Oh, penalties? Every time he goes, coach,
Speaker 1: you your line has been you know, been penalt or
Speaker 1: you guys are committing penalties and he goes, oh, I've
Speaker 1: never seen that before. Like now it's like father, Like
Speaker 1: I love the shots. If you ever see me on
Speaker 1: the sidelines, like if I'm right by a coach while
Speaker 1: they're speaking to an OFFICI su or there's this unbelievable
Speaker 1: shot which breaks my heart. Of the play and the
Speaker 1: rams Um Saints NFC championship and the play that wasn't
Speaker 1: called on this secondary um or that was or what
Speaker 1: what happened? Was it? It wasn't was not was not
Speaker 1: sorry the Rams player, Yeah, I was all over and um,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is just going berserk and I am just
Speaker 1: like my mouth is wide open, like oh my god,
Speaker 1: and yeah that was just yeah, I get you get
Speaker 1: right in there. But God bless Coach Bouten loved him
Speaker 1: so much and that's maybe be a Florida Gator. And
Speaker 1: I texted Hurt Kurt because I saw something on Twitter
Speaker 1: where he said it was the Florida State band played
Speaker 1: at the memorial and Kurt said it was the first
Speaker 1: time I've heard of marching band play and like how
Speaker 1: many years or how many months? And I just said
Speaker 1: did you go? And He's like I had to? And
Speaker 1: I was horrible story. But I started thinking of the
Speaker 1: funerals that I probably would like to attend, Like you know,
Speaker 1: when we start losing the coaches we've covered, um, really
Speaker 1: morbid thoughts I'm having while I'm shaving my legs, but um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was hoping Coach Spurrier went, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you went. I want to text him. I I
Speaker 1: hope he went. But coach Bowden was a dream man.
Speaker 1: He was God. That Florida State team with Peter Wark. God,
Speaker 1: they were good freaking a they were so worked done,
Speaker 1: Um work done, Angel love him. Dion Dion was a
Speaker 1: seminole um without staying in the in the sad realm.
Speaker 1: When we mentioned funerals, I'd be remiss because I've mentioned him.
Speaker 1: You actually asked me when we had one of our
Speaker 1: episodes and we're talking about how I got into hockey,
Speaker 1: and I said, the producer that hired me at the
Speaker 1: Big ten network. Um, he went over to Verses, which
Speaker 1: is now no longer in existence as a hockey platform.
Speaker 1: It became NBC Sports. His name was Leon Schwire and
Speaker 1: it's gonna make me cry. He passed away a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago, but he gave me my starting football
Speaker 1: and hockey. Anyways, Leon, so I'll never forget this. When
Speaker 1: I changed, Oh my god, when I changed my hair
Speaker 1: from blonde to black. It was well documented on dead spins. Um,
Speaker 1: She's on a suicidal path to Frontville. That was the headline. God,
Speaker 1: love God love dead Spin. They did so much for people,
Speaker 1: good thing, good thing. First confidence, so didn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I was like, now, whatever, we'll just go back to
Speaker 1: blonde him. Fuck him right, but I'll never forget this.
Speaker 1: I was doing this show is called a Friday Night Tailgate,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden in my ear, I hear
Speaker 1: what the fund did you do to your hair? And
Speaker 1: it was Leon, and I just started laughing at what
Speaker 1: you don't like it? He goes, it's terrible, and it
Speaker 1: just was. It was the honesty and the love, and
Speaker 1: I just I will really miss him, and he was
Speaker 1: gone way too soon. So I just wanted to mention that,
Speaker 1: um Leon would also then want me to turn this
Speaker 1: into a joke real quick as we bring in after
Speaker 1: the quick break, because similar to what Leon told me
Speaker 1: about my hair when he said, what the funk are
Speaker 1: you thinking? Vicky sent me this picture look at this
Speaker 1: thirteen years ago? What the fun was I thinking? This
Speaker 1: was on the I can't really see very wash? What
Speaker 1: am I wearing? Send it to me on the set
Speaker 1: of Best Damn Sports Show? Keystone Light was a sponsor.
Speaker 1: Could you tell the wait, babe, You're gonna lose your
Speaker 1: mind when I show this to you. First of all,
Speaker 1: I was eaten Eminem's hot dogs, all the things on
Speaker 1: the sidelines to look yeah, all right, well everyone could
Speaker 1: feel me. I was around and craft. We'll be back
Speaker 1: right after the break with one of our favorites, Jalen Rose.
Speaker 1: He's a renaissance man and he's got a lot of stories.
Speaker 1: I know coming up next. I just sounded like a
Speaker 1: radio DJ. There coming up next after break up the
Speaker 1: top ten. We're always good because Jalen roses with us
Speaker 1: a gentleman. Aaron and I have been waiting for this
Speaker 1: and before we will come you in, Jalen, all I
Speaker 1: have to say is Victoria Jill Trilling sent me a
Speaker 1: picture from The Best Damn Sports Show. You're welcome. We
Speaker 1: will get to that right there. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see it. Before we get to that, Jalen, what was
Speaker 1: your favorite outfit you ever sported from the Best Damn
Speaker 1: Sports Show? Do you remember? Give me something I do?
Speaker 1: And it was culturally relevant at the time. So when
Speaker 1: Jess the Snowman started to become a mainstream artist, he
Speaker 1: had the Snowman T shirts and at the time, students
Speaker 1: were banned from wearing them at school because the connotation
Speaker 1: of the shirt. So on best Day and they gave
Speaker 1: me a segment called Posse Apprentice where I had a
Speaker 1: big table of people and I was just telling them
Speaker 1: why they're not playing to work on my tea. And
Speaker 1: I actually wore that shirt on the Best damn Sports
Speaker 1: Show and that was something for neighborhood legend. Trust me,
Speaker 1: remember up to give me a Colt forty five any day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, we won't. John Richie
Speaker 1: and I used to do at a cult forty five
Speaker 1: and put grape soda in it. Yes, you're well no,
Speaker 1: but hey, it was a thing. It was a thing. Um,
Speaker 1: you guys, he's Jalen Rose, He's the renaissance man. He's
Speaker 1: got stories for days. But we only have him for
Speaker 1: a little bit because that bucket hat is going to
Speaker 1: get out in the streets in Miami very quickly. So
Speaker 1: we like to take advantage of the time that Jalen
Speaker 1: gives us. Jalen, of course, has worked with both of
Speaker 1: us in respective places. ESPN. Um, we all worked together
Speaker 1: at ESPN, even though it wasn't corresponding times, and of
Speaker 1: course at Fox, Jalen you do it all, um. And
Speaker 1: before you came on, Aaron and I were talking about like, well,
Speaker 1: what we wanted to talk to you about and all
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, So let's just jump right in it.
Speaker 1: In it you do so many things, right from covering
Speaker 1: the NBA to Jalen and Jacobe, to your podcast to
Speaker 1: all your other philanthropic endeavors your family. Is there that thing,
Speaker 1: that wishless thing on your to do list that you
Speaker 1: still want to do? What kind of a platform or
Speaker 1: or show or anything that you still want to do.
Speaker 1: I love both of you guys. Congratulations And both of
Speaker 1: you guys appeared on the Renaissance Man, and I'm very
Speaker 1: gracious that you guys took the time to do that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something that I haven't told anyone um.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of times, you guys can appreciate this.
Speaker 1: There's so many opportunities that we may consider, or people
Speaker 1: may pitch us, or ideas that people may have for us,
Speaker 1: and you can't really always share it with your family
Speaker 1: or your friends, because some things get twenty yards and
Speaker 1: then you gotta punt. Some things get sixty yards and
Speaker 1: you gotta punt, so it never happens. So you find
Speaker 1: yourself always telling people you're about to do something that
Speaker 1: never happens. But I have something that I would like
Speaker 1: to do that. I haven't really seen happen since the
Speaker 1: early nineties. I want to host a late night tell
Speaker 1: levision show. And as a fan of Arsenio, I just
Speaker 1: ran into Dave Chappelle recently. I went to back to
Speaker 1: back concerts when he was in Detroit. Yeah, I'm the
Speaker 1: kind of guy to go to back to back show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's me. That same joke I want to It's like
Speaker 1: they were like sixty five seventy the same, but he
Speaker 1: definitely remixed them for sure, and it was It was hilarious,
Speaker 1: and Dave reminded me of the first time he met me,
Speaker 1: and it was at the Arsenio Hall. Show. You this
Speaker 1: is like early nine, this is like nineties four. Okay,
Speaker 1: where are you? Where are you? Like? You played for
Speaker 1: a total of six NBA teams, correct six when it
Speaker 1: was all said and done. So where are you? What
Speaker 1: team are you with at this point? Are you still
Speaker 1: in Detroit? So when I got drafted, Oh man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell this story too. So so when I got drafted,
Speaker 1: um in June, I had a draft party in Detroit
Speaker 1: and July and you would appreciate this. CT. I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna get drafted by the Sonics. So I
Speaker 1: had a red white suit and I had a lime
Speaker 1: green suit, and I ended up choosing the red white
Speaker 1: one because the Clippers were choosing hiring the draft but
Speaker 1: neither one of them took. And so in July, I
Speaker 1: actually was at UM the State Theater in Detroit, um
Speaker 1: a party that we call Soul Night, and I actually
Speaker 1: got into a couple of people that I was with
Speaker 1: actually got into an altercation with another group of people
Speaker 1: and lo and behold that happened. Yeah, definitely, this is
Speaker 1: the statute of limitation. Like thirty years ago. And then
Speaker 1: and then the next week we were playing at St. Cecilia.
Speaker 1: Attractor trailer had the ball rested the piece. He turns
Speaker 1: around to do a post move and I tried to
Speaker 1: swap the ball out of his hand and I hurt
Speaker 1: my shoulder. So now imagine a draftic nowadays, right, getting picked,
Speaker 1: getting hurt before he signs his contract does before I
Speaker 1: even signed my contract. So big fish, small pond theory,
Speaker 1: I go to l A to go to the doctor,
Speaker 1: to go to rehab it, and go to Blenden. So
Speaker 1: in theory from toeen, when we started get up in
Speaker 1: New York City, l A was my second home, that
Speaker 1: place in Santa Monica, that place in Brentwood. I was
Speaker 1: Californias my second and I love something something, you know,
Speaker 1: I had to you know what I mean, Like, come on, now,
Speaker 1: I had to have more than one spot, got a play.
Speaker 1: But what's the difference between me and you? About five
Speaker 1: bank accounts, three vehicles? I like what you did? Then?
Speaker 1: You know I'm here? Don't tell me eminem And So
Speaker 1: I was in l A basically every summer. So I
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what year was, but I think it
Speaker 1: was like one of the first years I was out there.
Speaker 1: But I remembered it in particular because it was the
Speaker 1: only time I even went to our stinio. So think
Speaker 1: about this day. Chappelle like, hey, yo, the time we
Speaker 1: was at our studio. I'm like, yeah, one time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, right, that's the only time I haven't went
Speaker 1: dog I remember. But anyway, since that period of time,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been an African American person primarily hosting a
Speaker 1: late night television show. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1: I think because people have to get used to allowing
Speaker 1: us that space for entertainment purposes. Trevor Trevor, Noah does
Speaker 1: a good job, right, right, he does a great job
Speaker 1: with that platform in the political space. But are you
Speaker 1: talking specific in terms of entertainment and sports or do
Speaker 1: you want to go full gamut as the renaissance man
Speaker 1: your bandwidth. You can talk about all the different things
Speaker 1: that I'm sure it is important for you to do that,
Speaker 1: But are you trying to sell it as an entertainment,
Speaker 1: sports show or everything. It would definitely be, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: It would be current events entertainments for us, politics, fashion, pology,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever is happening that day. And I know politics
Speaker 1: of you know, late night TV, and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to keep the masses happy and trying to make sure
Speaker 1: that we secure sponsors. But it has been like thirty
Speaker 1: five forty years since a black person in a late
Speaker 1: night television And shout the Trevor North, who doing a
Speaker 1: great job. I love the show, and Jimmy Kimmel, who
Speaker 1: was just out a couple of weeks. I appreciate him
Speaker 1: allowing our Sin and Anthony Anderson and all of those
Speaker 1: people host this show while he was out. And I
Speaker 1: can't lie. I was sitting back thinking like, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my idea right there. Yeah, that's my idea. And
Speaker 1: so that's the one thing I think I would love
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to do because just taking renaissance man,
Speaker 1: as you guys know, and if both of you guys,
Speaker 1: then if you Mark Cuban, I've a big sean, said
Speaker 1: the entertainer Gabriela Union. Like the list goes on and on,
Speaker 1: and the people that I continue to interview, that's what
Speaker 1: I would want the late night show to be about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. I was gonna ask you guys about
Speaker 1: your your younger days with Best Damn, because I wasn't
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to do that. I was busting my ass
Speaker 1: on the college football sidelines, you know, So I was
Speaker 1: just Shack and Bobby Bowden down. Yeahs. But I they're
Speaker 1: just the stories from everybody that got to take part
Speaker 1: in Best Damn. What do you miss the most about
Speaker 1: a show like that that maybe TV is missing. I mean, Jalen,
Speaker 1: you I have my you're our guests. You tell to
Speaker 1: tell her what you miss that you're maybe trying to
Speaker 1: bring back. Yeah, Well, first off, like the camaraderie and
Speaker 1: the unique talents that we have in the creativity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so many times in multimedia, the creativity gets steiny for
Speaker 1: ratings or for high for for for right now and
Speaker 1: not necessarily like investing in, you know, doing things that
Speaker 1: the audience doesn't necessarily see coming. I always love that
Speaker 1: about Best Damn and that opportunity. But here's another thing. Um,
Speaker 1: Jason Williams of the Nets was a current player and
Speaker 1: he was working for NBC. John Sally was a retired
Speaker 1: player from the NBA and he was working for Best Damn.
Speaker 1: You guys ready for this? Since John Sally and me
Speaker 1: working on the Best Damn and then me doing numbers,
Speaker 1: never lie in like two thousand and eleven, where's Michael Smith,
Speaker 1: No doubt, Michael, no doubt, brother from another I brought
Speaker 1: to ESPN to do with the host. Numbers never lies
Speaker 1: that The only thing that doesn't lies our ratings. This
Speaker 1: is about to get canceled. There's a number that tells
Speaker 1: the truth that show is so bad. They said, hey,
Speaker 1: you like skin Girl, get out of here. We're gonna
Speaker 1: bring Jamal and Michael and Hear and really get some ratings.
Speaker 1: And I was like, fine, all go supports Nation, no
Speaker 1: oh Man Shopolic College, shout out to Colin exactly, and
Speaker 1: so where was going? So you're saying the difference between
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and so here's what I've realized about the game.
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the only former basketball player that is
Speaker 1: featured on the Monday through Friday show. Huh. And it's
Speaker 1: been like that for like almost twenty years because what
Speaker 1: ends up happening is in America, people automatically assumed, because
Speaker 1: of the ratings of football and the popularity of the sport,
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get a former football player. So look
Speaker 1: at the landscape of the game. You see Marcellis, you
Speaker 1: see straight Hand, Chris Carter, you see Mike Golic, you
Speaker 1: see all former football players attached to Monday through Friday shows.
Speaker 1: I'm the only basketball player that's been attached to a
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday show. And shout to John Skipper who
Speaker 1: brought me in the office at a time when they
Speaker 1: were starting, um get up, and he was like, you
Speaker 1: are our best football analysts too, because they wanted that
Speaker 1: to be a football player. And so back to me
Speaker 1: is something in the game that I take Friday and
Speaker 1: I shout John Sally, and I shout best dance for
Speaker 1: a show in our entire family, because that was one
Speaker 1: of the first shows where athletes were allegedly supposed to
Speaker 1: like stick to the sport that they played. So I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, like this person didn't play at all,
Speaker 1: and they can talk about whatever sports they want. But me,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think they can talk about basketball.
Speaker 1: It's like that is that what we're doing here? And
Speaker 1: so shout to John. It's in the entire crew. Who
Speaker 1: had John Sally, who had Me, who had Rob, who
Speaker 1: had Rodney pet who had Cissa. Like our team was
Speaker 1: so very versatile, we had so much fun. Hey, Aaron,
Speaker 1: let's let me tell you this. We wasn't the kind
Speaker 1: of team that when the game ended we didn't see
Speaker 1: each other again to the next day. It didn't work that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We were a locker room,
Speaker 1: we were a family, and I missed that about entertainment
Speaker 1: in multimedia, well you're it. It was an unbelievable opportunity.
Speaker 1: I know, for me, it was the first national show
Speaker 1: I ever got to work on. But independent of that,
Speaker 1: it was you know, when Stray talks about it, it
Speaker 1: was the he was the you guys respectively, that group
Speaker 1: were the first athletes that were also had the foresight
Speaker 1: to say, hey, this is that next step for us right,
Speaker 1: and some of these guys were still playing. Ray Lewis
Speaker 1: was still playing Stray was still playing. Remember when we
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl in Arizona, the Patriots game.
Speaker 1: He was playing in that super Bowl. He was on
Speaker 1: our set. So it was this for in then Antonio
Speaker 1: Pierce followed suit and whatever. So it's UM, it was
Speaker 1: definitely and and here's the sad part about it. And
Speaker 1: hopefully with with UM putting out the good vibes and
Speaker 1: uh for your your show to will it to happen,
Speaker 1: your late night show, I hope that they can do
Speaker 1: a show like that again. I hope you can do
Speaker 1: a show like that again, because now with all the
Speaker 1: PC things you have to say and do, if it
Speaker 1: makes it tough to green life, and it sucks, and
Speaker 1: it really does suck that you have to stay within
Speaker 1: the lines, because coloring outside the lines is what's so
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But bringing it back, Jalen, do you
Speaker 1: specifically real quick? And I know you're a busy man, UM,
Speaker 1: but I just you have you've done so much UM
Speaker 1: and you asked me a really interesting question when I
Speaker 1: was on and thank you for giving me the opportunity
Speaker 1: to also be vulnerable. Um, Aaron and I have a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons that we are friends. Many of the
Speaker 1: reasons we're friends because we've been through a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff together and held each other's hands through the worst
Speaker 1: things in our life and the best things in life.
Speaker 1: But to be able to have UM a platform to
Speaker 1: talk about what I went through, I really appreciate that
Speaker 1: and I know that um uh you know that's what
Speaker 1: these podcasts are all about, is to be open with
Speaker 1: our friends like we are. So anyways, bringing it back
Speaker 1: UM real quickly, you asked me if you could be
Speaker 1: commissioner for one day or a fact, you could assign
Speaker 1: someone to be the commissioner, uh, for one day, who
Speaker 1: would it be. I'm gonna bring it back to you
Speaker 1: and ask you the same question. You get to be, UM,
Speaker 1: assign a commissioner in the you can be the NBA,
Speaker 1: the NFL, whoever, for one day, who would it be?
Speaker 1: I want you to do both? Actually, okay, both sports.
Speaker 1: I will so if I can assign someone to the
Speaker 1: commissioner for the n b A, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a really good one. What about uh? What about Denzel Washington?
Speaker 1: Hot for a Yeah? Like who? See more basketball from
Speaker 1: the road and that guy I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: hope he wears I hope he wears the the mank Er,
Speaker 1: the chinchilla jacket from American gangster sitting courtside. Yes, no question,
Speaker 1: I'm giving Dinzel that year. He doesn't see showtime error,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing Shack and Kobe, you have seen it
Speaker 1: all and put in his own work as well. So
Speaker 1: definitely Dinzel for the NBA. For the NFL, man, that's
Speaker 1: the no fun league. I gotta find somebody. It's gonna
Speaker 1: shake it up a little bit. It's not gonna give
Speaker 1: a penalty from the guy carries somebody teen yard and
Speaker 1: have the nerve the motion. You're just talking talk about this, Jalen.
Speaker 1: So we're at the Fox Seminar Michigan. Man, you'll appreciate
Speaker 1: this moment. So when we were at our Fox seminar,
Speaker 1: we were having the officials talk to us about the
Speaker 1: new rules. Charles Woodson new to our team. Um to
Speaker 1: be at a seminar last year was COVID, so we
Speaker 1: couldn't come. And as they are explaining this rule, Charles
Speaker 1: is just, and Charles is just. I mean, you want
Speaker 1: to talk about somebody with just swagger, like he's just
Speaker 1: good looking, like he can make a T shirt and
Speaker 1: shorts looking cool right with his arms folded and he's
Speaker 1: looking down and he's looking and then he's like hold what,
Speaker 1: hold up what? And I was like everybody was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, this is one person at Charles Woodson is
Speaker 1: not gonna like this new rule. So Michigan man, for
Speaker 1: you thought you'd appreciate that one. I do. That's my
Speaker 1: guy and the person, as I think about it, who
Speaker 1: I would like to be the NFL Commissioner Diana Sanders. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: to be it for a day, because I remember prime
Speaker 1: time rooting for him at Florida State and him rocking
Speaker 1: a Jerry curl and showing up to do his forty
Speaker 1: yard dash allegedly in the limousine and running the fastest
Speaker 1: time ever and then telling my lions that we would
Speaker 1: have to put him on lay away in order to
Speaker 1: pay him. So that guy that I saw high steps
Speaker 1: from from the fifty playing offense and defense, he needs
Speaker 1: to be responsible not only for making sure that the
Speaker 1: NFL can tinues to thrive, but also we can actually enjoy.
Speaker 1: But you, it's so great about that, and that's that's
Speaker 1: a perfect one. I remember saying to him a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago because they were time about trash talking
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I was like, you're the ultimate trash talker.
Speaker 1: He goes, No, I wasn't, He said, I never talked
Speaker 1: trash about someone else. I only hyped up myself. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess you know, because he's always John.
Speaker 1: I thought he was dawing at someone else. But he's
Speaker 1: busy telling them how Grady was. But this cat, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable to me him and bow Right and
Speaker 1: you know, being a professional athlete, you know the demands
Speaker 1: of what it takes to have success in one sport
Speaker 1: but then to have success in two. And I even
Speaker 1: look at like a guy like Dave Winfield, this guy
Speaker 1: could have played three Like it's unbelievable, right, the athleticism,
Speaker 1: But to think about what Dion did go play in
Speaker 1: an NFL game helicopter to the World Series, like what
Speaker 1: like it's just a try. I just love anytime. And
Speaker 1: Aaron and another thing we have in common, like even
Speaker 1: talking about this stuff like jacks me up, just like
Speaker 1: like so not to mention the style and to bring
Speaker 1: it back why I want to name my first unborn
Speaker 1: child that's frozen at the fertility clinic. Jalen is because
Speaker 1: watching you guys. You know that, you know that was
Speaker 1: like my literally my favorite name was watching what you
Speaker 1: guys did at Michigan. The clothing, the big shorts change,
Speaker 1: the black socks. I mean, we've all seen the documentary
Speaker 1: The Fab Five. I mean, do you still I'm sure
Speaker 1: you do get people talking about how you change, you know,
Speaker 1: the cultural aspect of fashion in the game of basketball
Speaker 1: at such a young age. God, Jeli, and the shots
Speaker 1: of you in the stands by the way during the tournament,
Speaker 1: I mean I was screaming for your team just because
Speaker 1: of you. It was like I was like, like so
Speaker 1: much about all the alument I was wanting here for you.
Speaker 1: Our guy, the guy from u c. L A. He
Speaker 1: shot us down, he was falling. But the beauty that
Speaker 1: I appreciate about being a member of the Fab five.
Speaker 1: And shout to sea where who invited us to join
Speaker 1: him at his Hall of Fame induction. I can't plan
Speaker 1: on being there. Yes, indeed, shout the Juwan Howard who
Speaker 1: had the number one recruit class in the country. Um
Speaker 1: Ray Jack. The way you guys should roll on you
Speaker 1: guys all being together in the Hall of Fame speech
Speaker 1: because I could feel like that could be a that
Speaker 1: could be a part two, you know, just saying correct,
Speaker 1: that's right, Yes, indeed, absolutely, I'm rolling with that. And
Speaker 1: the beauty of that group is that I realized how
Speaker 1: genuine it was now because it reminds me of how
Speaker 1: much people disliked us then. See, like like right now
Speaker 1: we can talk about I remember saying this about Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: I was happy that he was lighting the torch in
Speaker 1: the Atlanta I remember this big his nineties and I
Speaker 1: was happy that he was lying the torch. But that's
Speaker 1: my idol, Like I love Muhammad Ali. That's my god.
Speaker 1: I met him. That's my guys, like my favorite human being.
Speaker 1: That's not in my family ever, Muhammad Ali. It's not
Speaker 1: even close. And I just remember thinking like they started
Speaker 1: to celebrate him way too late. Deal with the fact.
Speaker 1: I like we're having this conversation right. You can't go
Speaker 1: nowhere at the University in Michigan and see us or
Speaker 1: Steve Fisher right now. Maybe we had a picture in
Speaker 1: the practice facility or Jawan's office, but you guys know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And if Juwan was not the coach,
Speaker 1: I would feel some type of way about that, But
Speaker 1: since Jawan is the coach, I bury any hard feelings
Speaker 1: that I had towards not being recognized and and work
Speaker 1: in the draft. And I lost my mom in February,
Speaker 1: and so I was sitting there and watching Jalen Green,
Speaker 1: Jalen Subs and Jalen Johnson, right, and we know in
Speaker 1: that was the first time, but Jalen got drafted into
Speaker 1: the NBA. Now we look up at ten years of
Speaker 1: the NBA gonna be named Jalen And so like that
Speaker 1: FA five legacy, UM created something that is way bigger
Speaker 1: than each of us. And the longshore is the black Shoes,
Speaker 1: the Black Sox, the ball head, the camaraderie that we had.
Speaker 1: I just I am so very grateful that so many
Speaker 1: people who are riding with us then are riding with
Speaker 1: us now. But the crazy thing is when I see
Speaker 1: people that slandered me then that are still slattering me.
Speaker 1: Now we're not talking about people that go to Ohio
Speaker 1: State and no, you know what I mean, just their
Speaker 1: names because they don't get it. They don't get love
Speaker 1: on you. They don't need acknowledgement on your show. But
Speaker 1: you guys know the serial decades of trolls that continue
Speaker 1: to like, look at somebody like me and call me
Speaker 1: a hoodlum, or call me a thug or like names
Speaker 1: like that that. I remember I first got drafted. The
Speaker 1: first question I was asked was, so you know there's
Speaker 1: a rumor out there that you're not really coachable, Like huh.
Speaker 1: Like I love my high school coaches, like my dad, huh.
Speaker 1: And he went to Michigan with me and Steve Fisher.
Speaker 1: It's like a father figure to me. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll see how this works. But again, I'm forever grateful
Speaker 1: to being a member of the Five five. And you
Speaker 1: brought up bow Jackson, and you brought up Dion. They
Speaker 1: inspired me. They inspired us. The Georgetown teams, the un
Speaker 1: l V teams meeting Gary Payton, Sean Kemp during the
Speaker 1: n c A tournament, meet Muhammad Ali during the n
Speaker 1: c A tournament. Going back to the Magic City after
Speaker 1: we played in the tournament, talent, are we still producing
Speaker 1: talent or if we all moved to Miami? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just leave it right there. More than two seriously, Magic,
Speaker 1: I can't get me, Like seriously, Aaron asked the question
Speaker 1: what was the best part of Best Damn Spoord Show. Um,
Speaker 1: it was the pre production meetings. Says like, so I
Speaker 1: was in Vegas this weekend and there was and we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, and that's okay. We got it. We got it,
Speaker 1: we got it. If we could have aired what was
Speaker 1: said in the pre production meetings, I mean, the show
Speaker 1: would have never went off the air. Um, you have
Speaker 1: to get off the air quickly. But Aaron wants to
Speaker 1: ask you something very very um about our show. Aaron
Speaker 1: asked him about our what would like to give out? Oh? Yes, yes, yes, Okay.
Speaker 1: So our show is called calm Down because we feel
Speaker 1: like just sometimes people just calmed down or we need
Speaker 1: to calm down with like certain things that get us going. Jalen,
Speaker 1: who would you like to give a um down a
Speaker 1: word out to? It could be a group of people,
Speaker 1: it could be to yourself, it could be anything. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is an easy one, and this isn't political at all,
Speaker 1: because people are trying to make it calm down. If
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me why you shouldn't get vaccinated,
Speaker 1: news flash, getting vaccinated does not mean that you're immune
Speaker 1: from getting sick or feeling symptoms. It means that you're
Speaker 1: not going to go to the hospital and die. That's
Speaker 1: what it means. I remember a time where people were
Speaker 1: mad that you had to wear a seabell. You remember
Speaker 1: those days people put it on a arm arm Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: I gotta put this thing on four. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they started making vehicles to force you
Speaker 1: to do it right, saying we're like a bullet proof vest,
Speaker 1: like people going into combat or whatever. Like the bullet
Speaker 1: proof best doesn't mean that you're not gonna get shot
Speaker 1: after nine eleven. After nine eleven, remember, way to put
Speaker 1: all of our three ounces in a trade? Yes? Correct?
Speaker 1: And So to everybody out there that feels like getting
Speaker 1: vaccinated is a political play, it's not okay. We need
Speaker 1: to get towards a herd immunity. The delta variant is real.
Speaker 1: And as the founder of the school, like, I've hosted
Speaker 1: a couple of vaccination shots for the community, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna do that for our students in our staff because
Speaker 1: we're trying to make sure that everybody's vaccinated. And so
Speaker 1: I can't lie if I'm watching the NBA playoffs. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all y'all vaccinating like football about the start. I love Lamar,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. But dog, you ain't to talk to
Speaker 1: the doctor. Let me tell you what the doctor gonna say. Vaccinated.
Speaker 1: So those people need to calm down. Well, I was
Speaker 1: such a good one, you know it. You could run
Speaker 1: for a politician, for commissioner, for best friend, for best coworker.
Speaker 1: You are all the things. You are the renaissance man.
Speaker 1: You hold a special place in both of our hearts.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you carving out some time for us, as
Speaker 1: we know you're very busy, and uh, thank you, Jalen
Speaker 1: for just being the person you are. We cannot wait
Speaker 1: to be in the audience of your late night talk
Speaker 1: show and reading you on. No matter what you do
Speaker 1: and when it happens, I'm not gonna be in the audience.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a goddamn guest. You know what I was.
Speaker 1: I was just I was gonna. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got Michelle Obama, he's got Gabrielle Union, where do
Speaker 1: we fall in line? I was just happy to have
Speaker 1: a seat in the house. I appreciate your humility, but
Speaker 1: I'm already writing for the show right now, getting my
Speaker 1: steam barmy on already. I already see it. So y'all
Speaker 1: gonna definitely be guests. And I appreciate you guys having
Speaker 1: me on coming back on with you guys. I love
Speaker 1: you both. You're both crushing it. Thank you for being genuine,
Speaker 1: thank you for being veterans, thank you for being leader mentors.
Speaker 1: It's real because y'all know this is this, This is
Speaker 1: a doggie dog world and it's a crabs and the
Speaker 1: barrel thing, and y'all know how it works, y'all doing
Speaker 1: when y'all doing TV. People to come to your face
Speaker 1: every day and tell y'all how much they love y'all.
Speaker 1: Text and the agent, why see to look at what
Speaker 1: she got. By the way, By the way, our agent
Speaker 1: that we shared at one point is long out of
Speaker 1: the game. Um, I'd love you to represent me, so
Speaker 1: call me you want to get in that business. I
Speaker 1: know I'll get called back from anyone if Jalen wants
Speaker 1: me in the room. We love you you so sweet.
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