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Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Karissa is a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Aaron Big Day on the podcast today.

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Speaker 1: Why you ask because one of my favorite people, one

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Speaker 1: of your favorite coming on. Jalen Rose will be with

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Speaker 1: us today. He has been our colleague at ESPN and

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Speaker 1: over a Fox when I was there for Best damn

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Speaker 1: Sports Show. So I'm excited. I didn't know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was always Um, oh my gosh, Vicky sent me

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Speaker 1: a picture. I've got to pull it up. Vicki's our

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Speaker 1: wardrobe stylist at Fox, and she's been at Fox. She

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Speaker 1: won't want me to say this, but for twenty five years. Um,

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Speaker 1: she is the reason why. And again this is one

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Speaker 1: of the many differences between the two networks that we've

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Speaker 1: worked out. There is a wardrobe department at Fox. Most

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Speaker 1: people would be surprised to know that. At ESPN there

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Speaker 1: is no such thing. You don't get closed there. You

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Speaker 1: had to buy your own clothes. I remember when Randy

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Speaker 1: Moss left Fox and he went over to ESPN and goes,

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Speaker 1: ct where's the wardrobe department? I go, there ain't none, Sorry, kid,

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Speaker 1: good luck with all that. So and was, but Howie

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Speaker 1: had this, well, I look for this picture Bobby Bowden

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Speaker 1: passing away. Oh my god, I got really upset I saw.

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Speaker 1: And again I say this lovingly because you did a

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Speaker 1: flashback video when you were interviewing him, which was so

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Speaker 1: classic interview. But it was the silk tops that we

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Speaker 1: all wore in like some jewel tone that really, you know,

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Speaker 1: was popped on camera. But I had to laugh all

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Speaker 1: of it. But the not laughing part was how he

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Speaker 1: was and how iconic and for that university. He was

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Speaker 1: the head coach um of the Florida State Seminars for

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Speaker 1: god twenty year. I mean, I don't know what his

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Speaker 1: tenure was there, but what a great interview. Can you

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Speaker 1: recap it for people that Yeah? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: when I put that interview up, somebody wrote on there

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Speaker 1: this should have been part of the calm Down like

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Speaker 1: podcast where you talked about, you know, all your different outfits.

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Speaker 1: And then I did find a picture of me and

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Speaker 1: coach on the field and it was in that pirate

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Speaker 1: outfit that I wore when I was auditioning for Johnny

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Speaker 1: Depp in a role. Yeah, and apparently doing Thursday night

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Speaker 1: football all at the same time, but um, thanks, Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Herb Street who went to the funeral, and um oh,

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Speaker 1: the picture that got me the most was when they

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Speaker 1: were taken and his lovely wife and Bowden out of

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Speaker 1: the car to walk into the capital. I don't know

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Speaker 1: think my dad said he's the first non politician to

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Speaker 1: have his casket at the capitol in Tallahassee. Seems fitting.

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Speaker 1: And then the other picture, man I put it up

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Speaker 1: the teams they have beaten, and I was just like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean that clip I posted on my Instagram. I

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Speaker 1: think what went into it. First of all, I was brave.

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Speaker 1: I was brave. You'd never be allowed to do that.

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Speaker 1: I was following him, he was having words with the official,

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Speaker 1: She didn't care. Um that was cute. I missed that girl,

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Speaker 1: Wake Forest, their offensive line had been penalized numerous amounts

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Speaker 1: because in my little voice, I was like, what are

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Speaker 1: Big Ten network, but it is. I mean, look, and

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Speaker 1: they have been now. Um, decade in and out, a

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Speaker 1: decade in and out. Good English, but you know, over time.

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Speaker 1: But you were so cute in that interview, and it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I tried to mute because we've got a freaking weed

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Speaker 1: You're great, okay, good, well, it must be the microphone.

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Speaker 1: I was when I watched that was ballsy to throw

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Speaker 1: an official. But good for you, I mean when you

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Speaker 1: think about and look ignorant. No, by the way, always

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Speaker 1: ask forgiveness, not permission. What are they going to do

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Speaker 1: in that moment. By the way, he didn't tell you

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Speaker 1: to take that microphone back. No one did. And ESPNS

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Speaker 1: credit like airing that. But it didn't say anything bad.

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Speaker 1: right in there. But God bless Coach Bouten loved him

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Speaker 1: so much and that's maybe be a Florida Gator. And

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Speaker 1: I was horrible story. But I started thinking of the

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Speaker 1: He was God. That Florida State team with Peter Wark. God,

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Speaker 1: It became NBC Sports. His name was Leon Schwire and

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Speaker 1: Could you tell the wait, babe, You're gonna lose your

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Speaker 1: mind when I show this to you. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I was eaten Eminem's hot dogs, all the things on

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Speaker 1: feel me. I was around and craft. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: right after the break with one of our favorites, Jalen Rose.

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Speaker 1: He's a renaissance man and he's got a lot of stories.

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Speaker 1: I know coming up next. I just sounded like a

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Speaker 1: top ten. We're always good because Jalen roses with us

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Speaker 1: a gentleman. Aaron and I have been waiting for this

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Speaker 1: and before we will come you in, Jalen, all I

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Speaker 1: have to say is Victoria Jill Trilling sent me a

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Speaker 1: see it. Before we get to that, Jalen, what was

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Speaker 1: makes it tough to green life, and it sucks, and

427
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Speaker 1: it really does suck that you have to stay within

428
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Speaker 1: the lines, because coloring outside the lines is what's so

429
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But bringing it back, Jalen, do you

430
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: specifically real quick? And I know you're a busy man, UM,

431
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: but I just you have you've done so much UM

432
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: and you asked me a really interesting question when I

433
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Speaker 1: was on and thank you for giving me the opportunity

434
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: to also be vulnerable. Um, Aaron and I have a

435
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: lot of reasons that we are friends. Many of the

436
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: reasons we're friends because we've been through a lot of

437
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: stuff together and held each other's hands through the worst

438
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: things in our life and the best things in life.

439
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: But to be able to have UM a platform to

440
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: talk about what I went through, I really appreciate that

441
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: and I know that um uh you know that's what

442
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: these podcasts are all about, is to be open with

443
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: our friends like we are. So anyways, bringing it back

444
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: UM real quickly, you asked me if you could be

445
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: commissioner for one day or a fact, you could assign

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00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: someone to be the commissioner, uh, for one day, who

447
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: would it be. I'm gonna bring it back to you

448
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: and ask you the same question. You get to be, UM,

449
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: assign a commissioner in the you can be the NBA,

450
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, whoever, for one day, who would it be?

451
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: I want you to do both? Actually, okay, both sports.

452
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Speaker 1: I will so if I can assign someone to the

453
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Speaker 1: commissioner for the n b A, I'm gonna give you

454
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Speaker 1: a really good one. What about uh? What about Denzel Washington?

455
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Speaker 1: Hot for a Yeah? Like who? See more basketball from

456
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: the road and that guy I don't know, but I

457
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: hope he wears I hope he wears the the mank Er,

458
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Speaker 1: the chinchilla jacket from American gangster sitting courtside. Yes, no question,

459
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm giving Dinzel that year. He doesn't see showtime error,

460
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: you know, seeing Shack and Kobe, you have seen it

461
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: all and put in his own work as well. So

462
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: definitely Dinzel for the NBA. For the NFL, man, that's

463
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: the no fun league. I gotta find somebody. It's gonna

464
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: shake it up a little bit. It's not gonna give

465
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Speaker 1: a penalty from the guy carries somebody teen yard and

466
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Speaker 1: have the nerve the motion. You're just talking talk about this, Jalen.

467
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Speaker 1: So we're at the Fox Seminar Michigan. Man, you'll appreciate

468
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: this moment. So when we were at our Fox seminar,

469
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: we were having the officials talk to us about the

470
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Speaker 1: new rules. Charles Woodson new to our team. Um to

471
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: be at a seminar last year was COVID, so we

472
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: couldn't come. And as they are explaining this rule, Charles

473
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: is just, and Charles is just. I mean, you want

474
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: to talk about somebody with just swagger, like he's just

475
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: good looking, like he can make a T shirt and

476
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: shorts looking cool right with his arms folded and he's

477
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: looking down and he's looking and then he's like hold what,

478
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: hold up what? And I was like everybody was like,

479
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: oh God, this is one person at Charles Woodson is

480
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: not gonna like this new rule. So Michigan man, for

481
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: you thought you'd appreciate that one. I do. That's my

482
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: guy and the person, as I think about it, who

483
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: I would like to be the NFL Commissioner Diana Sanders. Yes, Yes,

484
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: to be it for a day, because I remember prime

485
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: time rooting for him at Florida State and him rocking

486
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: a Jerry curl and showing up to do his forty

487
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: yard dash allegedly in the limousine and running the fastest

488
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: time ever and then telling my lions that we would

489
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: have to put him on lay away in order to

490
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 1: pay him. So that guy that I saw high steps

491
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: from from the fifty playing offense and defense, he needs

492
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Speaker 1: to be responsible not only for making sure that the

493
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: NFL can tinues to thrive, but also we can actually enjoy.

494
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: But you, it's so great about that, and that's that's

495
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: a perfect one. I remember saying to him a couple

496
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: of years ago because they were time about trash talking

497
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I was like, you're the ultimate trash talker.

498
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: He goes, No, I wasn't, He said, I never talked

499
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: trash about someone else. I only hyped up myself. And

500
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess you know, because he's always John.

501
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I thought he was dawing at someone else. But he's

502
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: busy telling them how Grady was. But this cat, I mean,

503
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable to me him and bow Right and

504
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, being a professional athlete, you know the demands

505
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: of what it takes to have success in one sport

506
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: but then to have success in two. And I even

507
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: look at like a guy like Dave Winfield, this guy

508
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: could have played three Like it's unbelievable, right, the athleticism,

509
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: But to think about what Dion did go play in

510
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: an NFL game helicopter to the World Series, like what

511
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: like it's just a try. I just love anytime. And

512
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: Aaron and another thing we have in common, like even

513
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: talking about this stuff like jacks me up, just like

514
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: like so not to mention the style and to bring

515
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: it back why I want to name my first unborn

516
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: child that's frozen at the fertility clinic. Jalen is because

517
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: watching you guys. You know that, you know that was

518
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: like my literally my favorite name was watching what you

519
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: guys did at Michigan. The clothing, the big shorts change,

520
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: the black socks. I mean, we've all seen the documentary

521
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: The Fab Five. I mean, do you still I'm sure

522
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: you do get people talking about how you change, you know,

523
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: the cultural aspect of fashion in the game of basketball

524
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: at such a young age. God, Jeli, and the shots

525
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: of you in the stands by the way during the tournament,

526
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean I was screaming for your team just because

527
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: of you. It was like I was like, like so

528
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: much about all the alument I was wanting here for you.

529
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Our guy, the guy from u c. L A. He

530
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: shot us down, he was falling. But the beauty that

531
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate about being a member of the Fab five.

532
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: And shout to sea where who invited us to join

533
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: him at his Hall of Fame induction. I can't plan

534
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: on being there. Yes, indeed, shout the Juwan Howard who

535
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: had the number one recruit class in the country. Um

536
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: Ray Jack. The way you guys should roll on you

537
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: guys all being together in the Hall of Fame speech

538
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: because I could feel like that could be a that

539
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: could be a part two, you know, just saying correct,

540
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: that's right, Yes, indeed, absolutely, I'm rolling with that. And

541
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: the beauty of that group is that I realized how

542
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: genuine it was now because it reminds me of how

543
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: much people disliked us then. See, like like right now

544
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: we can talk about I remember saying this about Muhammad Ali.

545
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: I was happy that he was lighting the torch in

546
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: the Atlanta I remember this big his nineties and I

547
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: was happy that he was lying the torch. But that's

548
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: my idol, Like I love Muhammad Ali. That's my god.

549
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I met him. That's my guys, like my favorite human being.

550
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: That's not in my family ever, Muhammad Ali. It's not

551
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: even close. And I just remember thinking like they started

552
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: to celebrate him way too late. Deal with the fact.

553
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I like we're having this conversation right. You can't go

554
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: nowhere at the University in Michigan and see us or

555
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: Steve Fisher right now. Maybe we had a picture in

556
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: the practice facility or Jawan's office, but you guys know

557
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. And if Juwan was not the coach,

558
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: I would feel some type of way about that, But

559
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: since Jawan is the coach, I bury any hard feelings

560
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: that I had towards not being recognized and and work

561
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: in the draft. And I lost my mom in February,

562
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: and so I was sitting there and watching Jalen Green,

563
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Subs and Jalen Johnson, right, and we know in

564
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: that was the first time, but Jalen got drafted into

565
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: the NBA. Now we look up at ten years of

566
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the NBA gonna be named Jalen And so like that

567
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: FA five legacy, UM created something that is way bigger

568
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: than each of us. And the longshore is the black Shoes,

569
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: the Black Sox, the ball head, the camaraderie that we had.

570
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I just I am so very grateful that so many

571
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: people who are riding with us then are riding with

572
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: us now. But the crazy thing is when I see

573
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: people that slandered me then that are still slattering me.

574
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Now we're not talking about people that go to Ohio

575
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: State and no, you know what I mean, just their

576
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: names because they don't get it. They don't get love

577
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: on you. They don't need acknowledgement on your show. But

578
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: you guys know the serial decades of trolls that continue

579
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: to like, look at somebody like me and call me

580
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: a hoodlum, or call me a thug or like names

581
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: like that that. I remember I first got drafted. The

582
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: first question I was asked was, so you know there's

583
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: a rumor out there that you're not really coachable, Like huh.

584
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Like I love my high school coaches, like my dad, huh.

585
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: And he went to Michigan with me and Steve Fisher.

586
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: It's like a father figure to me. So I'm like, Okay,

587
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: I'll see how this works. But again, I'm forever grateful

588
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: to being a member of the Five five. And you

589
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: brought up bow Jackson, and you brought up Dion. They

590
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: inspired me. They inspired us. The Georgetown teams, the un

591
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: l V teams meeting Gary Payton, Sean Kemp during the

592
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: n c A tournament, meet Muhammad Ali during the n

593
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: c A tournament. Going back to the Magic City after

594
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: we played in the tournament, talent, are we still producing

595
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: talent or if we all moved to Miami? Okay, okay,

596
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: we'll just leave it right there. More than two seriously, Magic,

597
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I can't get me, Like seriously, Aaron asked the question

598
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: what was the best part of Best Damn Spoord Show. Um,

599
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: it was the pre production meetings. Says like, so I

600
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: was in Vegas this weekend and there was and we're like,

601
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: all right, and that's okay. We got it. We got it,

602
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: we got it. If we could have aired what was

603
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: said in the pre production meetings, I mean, the show

604
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: would have never went off the air. Um, you have

605
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: to get off the air quickly. But Aaron wants to

606
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: ask you something very very um about our show. Aaron

607
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: asked him about our what would like to give out? Oh? Yes, yes, yes, Okay.

608
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: So our show is called calm Down because we feel

609
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: like just sometimes people just calmed down or we need

610
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: to calm down with like certain things that get us going. Jalen,

611
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: who would you like to give a um down a

612
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: word out to? It could be a group of people,

613
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: it could be to yourself, it could be anything. Oh,

614
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: this is an easy one, and this isn't political at all,

615
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: because people are trying to make it calm down. If

616
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me why you shouldn't get vaccinated,

617
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: news flash, getting vaccinated does not mean that you're immune

618
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: from getting sick or feeling symptoms. It means that you're

619
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: not going to go to the hospital and die. That's

620
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: what it means. I remember a time where people were

621
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: mad that you had to wear a seabell. You remember

622
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: those days people put it on a arm arm Like,

623
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know what I'm saying, Well,

624
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I gotta put this thing on four. And then all

625
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden they started making vehicles to force you

626
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: to do it right, saying we're like a bullet proof vest,

627
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: like people going into combat or whatever. Like the bullet

628
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: proof best doesn't mean that you're not gonna get shot

629
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: after nine eleven. After nine eleven, remember, way to put

630
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: all of our three ounces in a trade? Yes? Correct?

631
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: And So to everybody out there that feels like getting

632
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: vaccinated is a political play, it's not okay. We need

633
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: to get towards a herd immunity. The delta variant is real.

634
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: And as the founder of the school, like, I've hosted

635
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: a couple of vaccination shots for the community, and we're

636
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna do that for our students in our staff because

637
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: we're trying to make sure that everybody's vaccinated. And so

638
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: I can't lie if I'm watching the NBA playoffs. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all y'all vaccinating like football about the start. I love Lamar,

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Speaker 1: that's my guy. But dog, you ain't to talk to

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Speaker 1: the doctor. Let me tell you what the doctor gonna say. Vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: So those people need to calm down. Well, I was

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Speaker 1: such a good one, you know it. You could run

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Speaker 1: for a politician, for commissioner, for best friend, for best coworker.

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Speaker 1: You are all the things. You are the renaissance man.

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Speaker 1: You hold a special place in both of our hearts.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you carving out some time for us, as

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Speaker 1: we know you're very busy, and uh, thank you, Jalen

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Speaker 1: for just being the person you are. We cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to be in the audience of your late night talk

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Speaker 1: show and reading you on. No matter what you do

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Speaker 1: and when it happens, I'm not gonna be in the audience.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a goddamn guest. You know what I was.

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Speaker 1: I was just I was gonna. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's got Michelle Obama, he's got Gabrielle Union, where do

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Speaker 1: we fall in line? I was just happy to have

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Speaker 1: a seat in the house. I appreciate your humility, but

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Speaker 1: I'm already writing for the show right now, getting my

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Speaker 1: steam barmy on already. I already see it. So y'all

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Speaker 1: gonna definitely be guests. And I appreciate you guys having

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Speaker 1: me on coming back on with you guys. I love

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Speaker 1: you both. You're both crushing it. Thank you for being genuine,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being veterans, thank you for being leader mentors.

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Speaker 1: It's real because y'all know this is this, This is

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Speaker 1: a doggie dog world and it's a crabs and the

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Speaker 1: barrel thing, and y'all know how it works, y'all doing

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Speaker 1: when y'all doing TV. People to come to your face

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Speaker 1: every day and tell y'all how much they love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Text and the agent, why see to look at what

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Speaker 1: she got. By the way, By the way, our agent

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Speaker 1: that we shared at one point is long out of

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Speaker 1: the game. Um, I'd love you to represent me, so

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Speaker 1: call me you want to get in that business. I

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Speaker 1: know I'll get called back from anyone if Jalen wants

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Speaker 1: me in the room. We love you you so sweet.

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Speaker 1: Calm Down with Aaron and Chrissa is a production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: visit the I Heart radio app, Apple podcast or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast. M