WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: More Changes? 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:19.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.320 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:32.160 Star in Frisco, flowing to the Live SAT and now 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:37.239 your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:43.239 Kyle Yeoman's it's a beautiful Wednesday edition. By beautiful, I 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.120 mean extremely rainy and cold here in Frisco, Texas. But 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.640 it's a beautiful day because guess what, it's time for 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.800 some talking Cowboys here on this Wednesday. Glad you're with 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.600 us on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, because, boyd, we have 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.400 a lot we've got to get to that happened over 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.800 the past twenty four hours. And we're also going to 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.240 previously Philadelphia offense going up against this Cowboys defense that 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.759 because of what happened over the last twenty four hours, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.200 is probably going to bid be a little bit different 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:16.840 looking come Sunday. Isaiah stand back, our residence super Bowl champion, 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.959 our Cowboys insider, mister Rob Phillips, and everybody's favorite mister 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.920 Heck Maharrison. This sultry voice of heck Ma Harrison I'm 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.480 Kyle Yeoman's glass, you're with us? And oh yeah, And 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.319 now I just want to I want to preface this 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.280 by saying, we kind of talked about this in terms 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.839 of where do you start. Where do you start with personnel, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.880 do you start with coaching, do you start with the 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.039 front office? Where do you start addressing changes? Where do 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.640 you start making changes in terms of the Cowboys in 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.160 their makeup of a roster or a staff or whatever 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.400 you want to talk about. And we all kind of 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.040 set the players. We said that at this point, whenever 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.600 there's a change of the coach staff and yet it 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.800 gets worse, it ultimately probably goes on the talent of 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.520 the players. Will Rob. Yesterday they started to address that 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.440 trading Everson Griffin to the Detroit Lions for a sixth 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.680 round conditional pick, one that could potentially turn into a 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.080 fifth round pick. But dissect this deal for me, Rob 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.720 and tell us how it is a win for the 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.880 Cowboys and also it's a little bit of a win 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:29.440 for Everson Griffin. Yeah, they save I think three million bucks, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.440 you know, half his salary for this season or what 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.400 he was going to make ultimately on the one year deal. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.280 And look, you know if he was going to leave 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.600 in free agency next year, you're trying to get a 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.080 compensatory draft pick, so you kind of look at it 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.679 that way. And on the other side of it, it's 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.520 opening up snaps for younger guys, guys that you know, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.120 I don't know if they look at it and say, oh, 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.200 we're gonna have a significant drop off. To be quite 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.920 honest with you, they want to get Randy Gregory Moore snaps. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.680 I believe he had six against Washington in his season debut. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.440 You've been on the table for Bradley and I Kyle 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.079 number fifty six. Yes, I have in weeks and weeks, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:11.119 and he might definitely get more snaps now. Duran's Armstrong 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.040 might get more snaps now as well, and we'll see 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.720 how it goes. I think we've been talking for a 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.640 while that you know, this didn't seem like a fit, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.919 even though I think when he got signed during training camp, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.160 I think the only thing missing on this show was balloons. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:29.040 Many everybody was pretty excited about it. Yeah, but as 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.800 we'll continue to get into you know, a lot of 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.720 the moves they made on the defensive side of the 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.760 ball have not worked out, and there may be more 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:43.280 changes coming, and Rob made it. Rob makes a good point, though. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.120 The thing is is as a show, we say it 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.480 with our chest quite a bit, and we're very excited, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.120 we're very passionate, and we're also opinionated, but we'll also 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.080 say it with our chest with like we were wrong. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.120 We we missed this one. We all missed it, and 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.120 we weren't alone in that regard. I think a lot 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.600 of cow Nation was rejoicing heck on that signing, but 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:07.080 it just ultimately didn't pan out. Hey, man, I wrote 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:14.640 a song you want to hit y. I was wrong. Man. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.560 I feel like one of those one of those promotional 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.040 dummies they put the area and it's just like doing 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:25.320 like I cannot believe this season. I mean you talking 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.719 about grand opening, grand closing for ever said Griffin that 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.599 just didn't work out, and just seeing him on the field, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.200 it just seemed like the chemistry was never there. And 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.120 just talking about the when he you know, came out 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.120 talking about wanting to be in a three point stands 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.440 versus the two point standing, all of those things were 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.640 telltale signs that we were going in the wrong direction. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.159 And you know, um Champ, You've made a lot about culture. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.240 You've made a lot about how you get this thing 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.839 right right the ship h and it starts with getting 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.720 rid of guys that are not effective. I think they 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.320 have to do something. They had to do something because 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.839 right now they're not They're not able to get the 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.599 attention of the players. And this was just that kind 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.719 of move, just to say, all right, put it. You know, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.880 I'm putting everybody on notice. And trust me, there are 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.839 a lot of guys right now that are packing up 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.960 this stuff. Your buddy, we talked about this a lot, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.400 and absolutely right you guys, we are we are grown 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.040 men on here. We'll tell you when we're wrong and 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:23.839 when we at least when we believe it wrong, and 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.120 when we are wrong. Um, and we I think we 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.120 all nobody. I don't think anybody in the in the 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.640 country expected this to not go well. All right, Um, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.560 I think you know, by picking up Jerald McCoy, by 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.000 picking up Griffin, by picking up Pole, you know, you 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.080 thought you had some vets that we're gonna come out 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.200 here and continue to do what they've done historically, and 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.760 that just hasn't been the case. McCoy got hurt. Um. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.440 You know, Poe's been playing Pole Griffin. Uh just didn't 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.520 work seemingly. Um. And we alluded to you already alluded 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.640 to you know him, you know, talking, you know, kind 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.359 of leaking out some stuff, right we talking about the 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.320 soda can right, that soda pop. You know, he leaked 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.479 out a little stuff earlier on talking about you know, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.320 I put my hand in the ground. Oh really, Oh really, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.360 that's what you do. So he just seemedly didn't fit in, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.559 you know. But kudos and hats off to Jerry Jones. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.760 I know there's always a question mark as to who's 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.720 you know, who's calling the shots now? Is that Jerry? 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.040 Is it Steven? Who's really doing it? Guess what? This 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.480 was Jerry Jones letting you, letting everybody know, like you said, heck, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.360 everybody's on notice, right what what the boxer saying? He 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.760 said it can man, everybody can get it right. Um. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.360 And and this is this is is a high alert. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.000 This lets the entire locker room know. Trust me, when 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.080 something like this goes down, everybody in the locker room 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.919 goes ooh ooh, let me figure it out. So we 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.360 may see some more moves and we may not see 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.400 them some more moves until next week. This might have 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.160 been a power move that that mister Jones made and 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.280 then he's gonna wait and see are you guys gonna 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.400 step it up this week? Or do I need to 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.080 continue doing what I'm doing. And don't worry, we are 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.680 going to get to the Tom Palaceero report here in 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.000 just a little bit and maybe what that even means 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.560 and things like that. But I want to stick with 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.880 that Verson Griffin for now. And Isaiah, I know you 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.400 had really been on that early whenever you talked about 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.200 it a couple of weeks ago. I mean, we especially me, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.400 I'll admit it. I dismissed it from the get go 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.720 when you were talking about how Everson Griffin was saying, 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.440 I'm a I'm a I'm not a two point stance guy, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.840 I want to put my hand in the ground and 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.600 that kind of thing, just kind of going against the 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.080 flow of what the scheme change and not buying into 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.240 what this defensive staff was selling. Is this really? Was 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.360 that the domino the first one that started to fall 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.600 that kind of led to this or was there other stuff, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.360 other smoke that kind of allowed this fire to happen. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.240 Oh No, there's definitely more smoke. I mean obviously we 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.920 don't have b Car here, right. We talked about how 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.400 we didn't have no solid information, but there were rumors, right, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.840 there are rumors that that b Car you know, made 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.840 some statements in the locker room talking about how the 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.520 coaches don't know what the heck they're talking about. Guess 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.160 what b Car all right now by by then, right, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:52.800 So they get rid of guys like that, right, if 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.800 you're if you're not getting with the program, if you're 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.080 going to listen to in this league, okay, because I've 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.680 been let go, because I've I've quote unquote challenged the 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.680 rigam or I have my opinion. When you go against 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.520 or youth or coaches feel as if you're threatening either 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.160 their their authority or if you're challenging what it is 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:12.640 that they're trying to get across to the rest of 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.960 the players, they will get rid of you and all heartbeat. Right, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.920 So you either get with the program or you either 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.640 just be quiet about it one of the two. Right, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.480 You don't have to be you know they don't. I 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.360 don't want to say this league likes yes man, but 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.600 this league doesn't like guys who go who have who 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.240 voiced their opinions right, And obviously Griffin putting that out 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.839 there to the media was him voicing his opinion. And 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.880 guess what that opinion was against what this coach is 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.080 trying to do. It was against the direction that these 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.760 guys are going. And especially when you have veterans, right, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.119 guys who have been around, guys who have been successful 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.800 in the past, and they voiced their opinion on what's 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.120 being called. Guess what. That is a direct threat to 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.839 these coaches authority and they can't have it and they 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.560 won't have it in the locker room. So bye bye 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:57.040 b car, Bye bye Griffin. Who's next? And especially you know, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.240 when you're trying to change an entire scheme him on 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.920 the fly, it's hard enough to try to get that 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.720 done and get it accomplished, So you're right, Like, I 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.120 think that becomes even more significant when there's trying to 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.600 be so many schematic changes going on and you're trying 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.360 to get everybody to buy in, whether it's working or not, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.840 whether the message is getting through or not. Uh yeah, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.240 I guess you know, they feel like they got to 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.959 have buy in, and I think Griffin, I think Griffin 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.480 was playing hard. I didn't see lack of effort from him, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:25.880 I think not at all. Know he had two and 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.559 a half sacks. I thought he played pretty good the 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.960 last couple of weeks. But yeah, it wasn't what they thought. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.960 And you know, I think they probably maybe they feel 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.640 pretty good about Gregory coming in and an I coming 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.520 in and seeing what they can do. I don't. I 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.240 don't know if they view it like, oh, we're just 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.839 gonna you know, I don't. I don't. I don't view 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.760 this as a tank move. If that's what fans were wondering. No, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.640 the next year. I mean, if you're gonna get the 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.640 same effort and you gotta get the same somewhat production 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.280 out of out of Gregory and a nay anybody else 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:57.559 who wants to step up, why are you going to 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.280 pay additional three million dollars for it? Yeah? Yeah, it's 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.120 pretty pretty simple, right if he's not, if he's not 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.880 gonna be a dominant force, I don't need to pay 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.000 dominant force money. I mean, and when you look at it, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:08.640 that that's pretty simple. If I'm gonna have to deal 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.040 with the lack of production from what I feel like, 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.520 I'm the value that I'm getting right, the value proposition? 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.200 What am I getting for what I'm paying for if 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.280 I don't feel like I'm getting my full value, and 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.240 I'm gonna have to deal with somebody who's who has 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.760 a veteran and who's very opinionated against with the regime 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.800 of what we're trying to get accomplished. It's not worth 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.920 the headache. It's not worth the headache, it's not worth 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.720 my money. So guess what, I'm gonna cut bait. And 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:34.120 that's what it was. Heck no, I mean they said 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.160 it all. I believe that that's that's the way. And 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.280 you you got to you got to applaud the front 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.720 office for not staying the course on this. You have 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.839 to go in a different direction and getting these younger 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.960 guys involved and having an evaluation on Bradley and I 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.400 finding out where Randy Gregory is. I mean, we've heard 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.679 the reports coming out of the Star that Randy Gregory 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.880 is is back and he's in good health. He's in 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.840 good mental health, and so now it's time to unlease 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.320 this guy to see exactly what he's going to be 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.120 in the future for the Cowboys. And if and if 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.320 Everson Griffin was in the way of that, then you 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.760 have to do what you have to do. And like 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.280 I said, kudos to them for not staying the course 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.199 with Everson Griffin or any of the players that are 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.679 not being productive. Even if you're looking at this like, oh, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.120 they're trying to take or whatever, I think it's just 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.360 a matter of saying, we can't stay with a guy 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.160 that's not giving us the production that we're paying for. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.560 And heck, I think it's just the opposite, right I think. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.200 I know we've talked about yesterday about how this feels 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.679 like this team just absolutely completely terrible and there's no momentum, 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.560 there's nothing positive going on. But to the point, and 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.600 I know it sounds crazy, but it's true, they're still 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.559 in it. They are still and there's still an opportunity 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.920 to turn the season around. So if you are still 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.959 trying to establish a culture, if you're still trying to 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.160 get momentum going in a right direction, and you still 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.960 have an opportunity to accomplish all your goals, if you 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.680 set out aside from records, guess what you figure, you 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.400 try to get this thing back on the tracks. Because 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.480 because you're still in the game, this is an annulment. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:15.719 They annulled the relationship. Now whenever it comes to the 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.400 defensive line and having Randy Gregory and let Bradley and 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.280 I kind of get those snaps. Now, I'm not super 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.760 hopeful because one, Bradley and I didn't get those snaps 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.000 whenever Randy Gregory was it in the fold anyways. Two, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.640 Randy Gregory coming in, he only had six snaps last week, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.920 But I'm not too worried about that, just based off 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.559 the fact that looking at his coaching staff and the 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.320 way that they've handled players coming back either from injury 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.080 or I guess now suspension, they've kind of eased him 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.120 back in. I mean, Laton vander esh saw thirty two 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.800 snaps his first game back, and then he saw ninety 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.199 seven percent of the snaps the other day against Washington, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.559 So he was back in the fold completely after one 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.360 game of kind of getting that warm up, that tune up. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.000 So I think overall, you're going to see Randy Gregory 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.120 a whole lot more. You're gonna see ninety four in 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.880 the ball game, and hopefully that book ends what DeMarcus 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.160 Lawrence is doing on the other side of that defensive line. Now, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.839 we do have to get to this Tom palace Ero 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.520 report because it's significant, especially since it's a couple of 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.439 guys we've specifically talked about over the last couple of days. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.679 So pallas Ero on Twitter said the Cowboys haven't formed 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.400 defensive tackle Dontari Poe in cornerback Darryl Worley, that they'll 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.319 be released if Dallas can't trade them today, per sources. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:34.760 Big changes to continue for Dallas. So, of course this 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.280 is just reports. It's nothing that we've seen outside of 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.600 just sources. So Tom is a great reporter, He's somebody 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.640 that's absolutely a respected voice in this business. However, if 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.920 we see this happen today, are you guys going to 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.520 be surprised? Relieved? What's the feeling around it, Rob, whenever 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.000 it comes to the reports that are happening and what 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:01.160 could potentially unfold here in the next twenty four hours. Well, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.160 if it is accurate, I'm sure the Cowboys love that 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.400 report getting out there as if they're trying to get 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:13.000 for players. Yeah, yeah, I you know, well, well we'll 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.720 see what happens. I'll say this, I mean, I think 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.880 when you look at just snap counts and you mentioned 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.880 Griffin by the way, you know, if you want to 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.040 be skeptical about or a little cynical about it. Gregory 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.040 gets six snaps, Griffin gets a lot of snaps and 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.560 gets traded two days later. You know, you're trying to 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.360 maybe you're trying to showcase him a little bit, uh, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.080 you know, in that situation, even though I think he 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.040 probably played what he normally plays. But yeah, I think 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.160 Gregory's gonna play more going forward. As far as Worley 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.280 and Poe, Uh, look at the snap counts, man. You know, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.200 Worley gives up an eighty r touchdown to Christian Kirk, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.120 He's benched, he's played, he played two snaps last week. Wow. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.280 Don Terry Poe his playing time has dropped consistently the 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.240 last three games. It's the lowest snap counts he's had 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.800 in the last three games. Justin Hamilton had more snaps 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.240 at defensive tackle than he did last year. Whether they're 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.520 here or whether they're not here, they're they're being phased 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.760 out of the rotation basically. That's what we're seeing. Smaller 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.760 doses for Poe, who started all seven games, but Worley 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.840 wasn't a factor last week, So they're giving other guys opportunities, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.840 whether they stay on the roster or not. They're based 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.040 on production, they're making moves, they're on defense and putting 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.560 new guys in there, young guys, guys that are unproven, 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:32.280 but just to see something different and see if it works. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.000 That's that the writing isn't on the wall pretty much. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.440 When guys are starting to get phased out in their 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.000 rotation of young guys, a sudden to come in. And 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.760 we've been talking about that, just the competition factor for 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.400 this d line to try and get a spark, and 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.440 that's why you see young guys like Hamilton. We started 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.040 to see your young guy like Gallimore also get more time. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.640 I mean I believe he started. But in the instance 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.880 of just going back to Evison Griffin, man, I don't 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.440 think that there's ever been a captain this guy cut 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.880 he was a captain last week. That's that's I think 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.680 that was the weirdest part about it. But I don't 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.760 believe that anyone is surprised about Poe or Worley. I mean, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.520 Worley has been on I mean just call them the 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.280 usual suspect though on a lot of these big plays 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.680 and just miscommunications, uh in the backfield and dB room 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.920 and then pointing this out to the guy in every 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.840 week he's still giving up these big plays, so he's 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.440 it doesn't surprise me, doesn't shock me at all. But 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.160 at the same time, Tom Policero didn't do us any 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.280 favors by leaking it, because now no one's gonna be 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.320 I don't think anyone would be willing to trade for 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.120 either of those guys, so probably them being released out right. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.960 And again we don't know if these if these claims 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:48.560 are valid at all, So let's just see and look. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.520 And you also, you're right, you don't know, um, but 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.440 you know, as many injuries as there are around the leak, 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.760 you just never know. You never know what a t 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:01.040 might need potentially. I mean the injuries. It's not just 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.760 the Cowboys, it's not just the Eagles. There's a lot 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.880 of team hurt right now, so you just you never know. Isaiah, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.359 I'm curious to hear from from your perspective as a 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.800 former player, what are those days like whenever you hear 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.879 a report like that. And of course Pella Sero is 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.879 just doing his job and he's hearing what sources are 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.040 telling him. But now now it gets back around to 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.399 the players, especially if it's true. Royally and Poe have 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.280 already been told about this, So what is that day? Like, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:34.120 I mean, we talk about bubble guts. I couldn't even imagine. Well, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:38.360 from from my personal experience, I've never been traded. I've 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.480 been released at the end of camps, but I've never 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.359 been traded in the middle of a season or anything 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.440 like that. But what I can tell you is what 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.359 happens in the NFL. And this has been going on 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.240 for a very long time, and it seemingly has a 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.280 change whenever there is something amiss, right whatever, there's something's 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.399 about to go down, right, whether you're getting released or 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.080 traded or whatever. I guess, well, your your reps kind 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.119 of start just kind of just just just falling away, right, 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.520 Your reps kind of just start disappearing. And as we're 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.240 talking about these guys, reps getting cut back, and you know, 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.119 this is what's happening. And they always tell you I 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.919 can tell you know, I've been cut before. They say, hey, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:10.720 oh you know, we're just we're getting the young guys 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:11.960 some reps. You know, we just want to just want 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.160 to get those guys exposed a little bit. It's it's 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.080 always the same, it's always the same reason. Oh you know, 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:17.440 we just want to get the young guys some reps, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.280 you know, and see what they look like on film. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.159 You know, you know, we know what you can do. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.160 You know, we only let let you, let you rest 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.560 a little bit. It's always the same. That's what they 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.800 tell the players all the time. And what really is, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.320 what it really is happening is in the meeting room, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.320 they've already made their decision. Right and if Worthly, if 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.240 if the if the if the statements are true, that 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.840 Worthy and Poe have been put on notice and guess what, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.080 they won't be at practice today. They won't be at 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.520 practice because you can't have you won't have two guys 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.280 who are probably disgruntled. Now you won't allow them to 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.000 come back in the building. So um, the fact that 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.080 that it seems like that statement has something, that that 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.280 report has some merit, because if they've been informed that, 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.959 then you you also heard the second part of that 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.520 is that they will be released today if they can't 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.440 get a trade. Why is that because we can't allow 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.720 you to come back on this team into building because 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.040 now there's gonna be issues. We don't want you to 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.560 have those issues in the locker room. It's definitely an 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.960 interesting time around this Cowboys team. And I agree with 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.680 Rob where I don't see the Everson Griffin move, nor 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.280 either one of these moves that would potentially happen over 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.160 the next couple of days to see it. I don't 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.000 see it as a trade scenario or a tank scenario. Rather, 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.800 I don't see it as tank moves overall. And we're 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.520 gonna talk about that a little bit in the third 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.280 segment because I've got a bold prediction whenever it comes 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.080 to the Cowboys in their personnel changes in a positive manner. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.680 I'm not gonna talk negatively about anybody. It's a positive thing. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.080 So I've got a bold prediction about it when we 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.520 come back in the third segment. Well, however, after the break, 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.440 we've got some matchups to preview. Whenever it comes to 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.720 this Eagles offense in the Cowboys defense, we'll talk about 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.040 it when we come back next Here, I'm talking Cowboys 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.800