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Speaker 3: Jess Navares and Christy Scales in the studio with me today. Guys,
Speaker 3: it's been a minute since I've talked to you, well,
Speaker 3: not really. We've seen each other in passing, but that's
Speaker 3: that's pretty much it.
Speaker 4: But when you go from seeing each other every day
Speaker 4: to once week, it's little weird, weird. It feels like
Speaker 4: a breakup.
Speaker 1: Low key, it was a little weird.
Speaker 3: Sorry, we're back though, we're back better with our well
Speaker 3: sure yeah you think.
Speaker 1: You shout out jazz.
Speaker 3: Banger and Butter, Yes, this way, this way, this way Banger.
Speaker 5: Right, Brian Ainger, Brian Ainger and Butter of course, Brandon
Speaker 5: Aubrey because he's smooth. Yeah, so Prescott called him butter
Speaker 5: and what do you.
Speaker 1: Have going on? Are you emulating him right now? Love that?
Speaker 1: Lining up?
Speaker 6: Lining up your kick?
Speaker 4: Chas He told me I couldn't kick, so I just
Speaker 4: have to do this a practice I did earlier. She
Speaker 4: saw me. She said, kick right here before you got here,
Speaker 4: and I did and she went, yeah, the was it
Speaker 4: was not.
Speaker 5: Okay, too bad, too bad Tyler Bastd use that for Buffalo,
Speaker 5: you know, soon as a.
Speaker 1: Wig wide ride.
Speaker 5: I just went, oh, man, poor Buffalo fans. Just was
Speaker 5: too reminiscent of the Scott Norwood miss back in Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: And man, but what.
Speaker 5: A great weekend of games and so much happening. The latest,
Speaker 5: of course, Jim Harbaugh now officially with us Andy A Chargers.
Speaker 6: All right, sorry, dang it, the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 1: Five year deal. Well we just announced it there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 3: Do you guys think he's gonna I was just mentioned
Speaker 3: a little bit before we got on camera that he
Speaker 3: might possibly I could see him bringing bringing in his
Speaker 3: Michigan staff.
Speaker 1: That'd be yep, that'd be pretty wild.
Speaker 4: Why would you not at that point? Why would you not.
Speaker 1: That goes to the question which you asked, what happens
Speaker 1: to Kellen Moore?
Speaker 4: Probably less of more, is my guess.
Speaker 3: You know what to take your mic away, to take
Speaker 3: your immediately.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the thing.
Speaker 5: People don't People don't think about the Domino's falling and
Speaker 5: families affected, Kellen and Julie and their little kids.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just interesting. It's interesting because when you
Speaker 4: think of a head coaching change, you think it's just
Speaker 4: the one person, and then it ripples down and yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: But we've got we got we got a little bit
Speaker 3: of news. Not really much going on around here. But
Speaker 3: of course McCarthy is staying. We didn't get a chance
Speaker 3: to talk about that because he announced it, well they
Speaker 3: announced it after of course our podcast.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are y'all I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, I just wanted to kind of touch on,
Speaker 3: you know, what's y'all's thoughts of us keeping McCarthy kind
Speaker 3: of like the benefits from that? Maybe I guess you
Speaker 3: could say some cons from keeping McCarthy has one more
Speaker 3: one more you're left on his deal.
Speaker 1: So what's y'all thoughts?
Speaker 5: Well, the pros are the continuity of the offense and
Speaker 5: the play calling and the same system, the verbiage and
Speaker 5: DAK in particular, but the whole offense not having to
Speaker 5: learn a new system. And it's hard to argue against
Speaker 5: you know, the top scoring offense in the league and
Speaker 5: the numbers and the success that the offense had through
Speaker 5: the majority of the season. The cons are selling to
Speaker 5: Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 6: What's different?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah, and.
Speaker 6: Same thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, twelve wins for three consecutive seasons, amazing hasn't been
Speaker 5: done in Cowboys history. That's you know, high winning percentage,
Speaker 5: all of that. But here with the Cowboys, it's measured
Speaker 5: in playoff success in Super Bowls, and so until you
Speaker 5: get to the Super Bowl, they'll be answering the same
Speaker 5: question every year.
Speaker 3: I think for me, you've obviously seen the love that
Speaker 3: these players have a McCarthy, So it kind of goes
Speaker 3: back to what you were saying, like the consistency, right,
Speaker 3: and I mean the players are of course, when the
Speaker 3: announcement was made, they went to Twitter posting that viral
Speaker 3: video of him in the locker room. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that players get that one consistency of getting
Speaker 3: you know, that same system, like you kind of mentioned,
Speaker 3: but you also get to see how McCarthy continues to
Speaker 3: develop Dak, right, because you've seen the best of Dak
Speaker 3: this year, and you get to see what he does
Speaker 3: with a guy.
Speaker 1: Like Trey Lance as well.
Speaker 3: You obviously know that McCarthy's really good with developing quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: so I think I think that's actually going to be
Speaker 3: pretty cool to see as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree with both of you, and
Speaker 4: I think consistency is the best word. And you know,
Speaker 4: as far as Dak, we talked about this last week
Speaker 4: last week, having you know, if they decided not to
Speaker 4: renew McCarthy or I guess go with his last year
Speaker 4: on his deal, that's three different systems he would have
Speaker 4: had to be under in the last three years. And
Speaker 4: I think, especially where he's at in his career, expecting
Speaker 4: an older quarterback to continue to adjust that way is
Speaker 4: just not setting him up for success. And then the
Speaker 4: ripple effect it has on the rest of the offense. So,
Speaker 4: as far as you know, another year of them working
Speaker 4: out the kinks of McCarthy in the play caller. And
Speaker 4: what I really liked about his press conference when he
Speaker 4: talked about that is you know, they went through everything already,
Speaker 4: so when you think of things in terms of doing
Speaker 4: it the first time, there are some kinks in it,
Speaker 4: and we saw that throughout the course of the season.
Speaker 4: Your real turnaround time was the bye week, and that's
Speaker 4: when things kind of turned around and you know they
Speaker 4: got fixed and adjusted. But you won't have to see
Speaker 4: that next season because they already know what is going
Speaker 4: to work for them what is not. And I think
Speaker 4: the biggest thing I'm going to look for in this
Speaker 4: second year of the McCarthy offense is the run game.
Speaker 4: I think that's really one of the biggest questions I
Speaker 4: still have going into this season. But overall I was
Speaker 4: for that move and I'm glad that he gets another year.
Speaker 4: Hopefully you can break that threshold.
Speaker 3: What are some things that you guys dislike about this
Speaker 3: move or not dislike, but just some.
Speaker 5: Cons Yeah, I think it's more what's the definition of
Speaker 5: insanity doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
Speaker 5: So I think the naysayers and the critics are, you know,
Speaker 5: why do you want consistency when the same thing has
Speaker 5: happened where you get to the playoffs and then have failure.
Speaker 5: And I think it's not just that the Cowboys lost
Speaker 5: in the first round this season, but the way they
Speaker 5: lost into an up and coming team and to be
Speaker 5: down twenty seven to nothing, I mean, they're really what
Speaker 5: excuses can you have for that? There aren't any, and
Speaker 5: so to me, that's the biggest con. The other thing
Speaker 5: is we're still not sure what's going to happen with
Speaker 5: dan Quinn and the defense. The thing is, these slots
Speaker 5: are filling up this time of year, this coaching carousel
Speaker 5: of head coaches, it's like a game of musical chairs.
Speaker 5: And so now these slots are filling up. You have
Speaker 5: Brian Callahan in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: Now you've got Harbaugh.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, Callahan is with the Tennessee Titans. And then
Speaker 5: multiple interviews for Belichick and others in Atlanta include dan
Speaker 5: Quinn interviewed there the Commanders. So you're still unsure, you know,
Speaker 5: this time next week hopefully we'll have some will have
Speaker 5: some definitive to talk about with the Cowboys defense and
Speaker 5: whether there'll be any changes on the coaching staff. But
Speaker 5: you know, remember it's not just a coordinator that that
Speaker 5: has gone. Oftentimes, the contracts are such that the it matches.
Speaker 5: So if a coordinator were to leave, how many coaches
Speaker 5: would he take with them? So it's not just a
Speaker 5: one for one. Sometimes you're replacing multiple spots.
Speaker 4: And not only that, but you look at the laundry
Speaker 4: list of the free agents that are in the Cowboys
Speaker 4: locker room come the off season, a lot of those
Speaker 4: guys are the dan Quinn guys. Really, when you look
Speaker 4: at who is on that list, they're the dan Quinn
Speaker 4: guys that came in his first year, that have followed
Speaker 4: him before, that have a track record of following him
Speaker 4: where he's gone, came from Atlanta coming here. He's just
Speaker 4: that kind of coach to these guys where he ohs,
Speaker 4: they follow And so that kind of worries me as
Speaker 4: far as personnel is who could follow It's not just coaches,
Speaker 4: it could also be personnel. And we'll see, hopefully this
Speaker 4: time next week we have a definitive answer. That'd be
Speaker 4: nice to just know what's going on.
Speaker 3: I think what worries me is you talk about the
Speaker 3: laundry list of you know, defensive guys, there's there's quite
Speaker 3: a few offensive guys too, you know, especially with kind
Speaker 3: of like what you mentioned mentioned the run game you
Speaker 3: got Tony Paul Rico Donald.
Speaker 1: That's two guys right there. Oh wow.
Speaker 3: Eagles have also requested an interview with Kellen Moore for
Speaker 3: their host see job. There's a lot of news going on.
Speaker 5: And they've got Vic Fangio for the defensive coordinator who
Speaker 5: had been had a mutual parting of the ways with
Speaker 5: Miami earlier this week. So Sirianni keeps his job with
Speaker 5: the Eagles, but they're going to have a couple of
Speaker 5: new coordinators.
Speaker 6: So very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, my bad, I lost you.
Speaker 4: Sorry, you're just talking about it, You're good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, talking about the run game, some of the different
Speaker 5: free agents and guys moving on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I say one of the cons for me is,
Speaker 3: I guess kind of like piggybacking off what Christy said
Speaker 3: and the definition of insanity.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's more so of what is out
Speaker 1: there to help improve this offense.
Speaker 3: Sure, and you have some guys that, like I said,
Speaker 3: you know, could be leaving, They could possibility could possibly
Speaker 3: re sign.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you don't want to.
Speaker 3: Expect the same thing that happened this past season as
Speaker 3: far as like the way that you guys went out.
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see, you know what. How aggressive,
Speaker 3: the guys that the team is when it comes to
Speaker 3: the draft, what they select in free agency as far
Speaker 3: as offensive.
Speaker 1: But now I mean talking about Dak. We talked about
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If we did get a chance to talk about McCarthy staying,
Speaker 3: but as far as you know, how much trust that
Speaker 3: you can have in the fact that he is staying,
Speaker 3: because that's what James later asked I'm in the press conference,
Speaker 3: but more so moving to Dak Prescott, how much trust
Speaker 3: do you guys have in him to be able to
Speaker 3: come back next year and take this team to a
Speaker 3: whole different level.
Speaker 1: We got a chance. I don't know if Jazz has
Speaker 1: the sound.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a chance.
Speaker 3: To hear from oh Bett, we can go ahead and
Speaker 3: play with Troy Aikman said yesterday, go ahead, Jazzy.
Speaker 7: I still believe in Dak. I think that until you
Speaker 7: do it, there's always those criticisms. And I know Peyton
Speaker 7: may you went through that his first three years he
Speaker 7: didn't win a playoff game, and then you look back
Speaker 7: on it now you can't imagine the next question whether
Speaker 7: or not you could win a playoff game.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that was Troy Aikman speaking this week at
Speaker 5: the George Bush Presidential Library. It was for a sports
Speaker 5: business journal naming Dallas it's the number one sports business city,
Speaker 5: and so that's why Troy was there.
Speaker 6: But he's right about.
Speaker 5: Until you do it, you know, and unfortunately, in something
Speaker 5: that we've talked about ad nauseum here on Girls Talk,
Speaker 5: Boys Talk is the standard here. You know, when you
Speaker 5: follow the agment, when you follow the Stallbucks, you know,
Speaker 5: it's the same thing that Tony Romo and you know,
Speaker 5: Danny White following Roger Staubach. If it's not the Super Bowl,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what numbers you put up in the
Speaker 5: eyes of many Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3: That's something that he also touched and credit to Calvin Watkins,
Speaker 3: who was actually there. He put it in quotations of
Speaker 3: what Troygman also added about a sense of entitlement. This
Speaker 3: is what was said from Troy Aigman. I don't know
Speaker 3: about a sense of entitlement. I think that when you
Speaker 3: play for the Cowboys, every national show leads off with
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and there's lots of perks are playing with
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, a lot of benefits playing for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: So I think the challenge for the organization and for
Speaker 3: the head coach is to be able to still keep
Speaker 3: the players with their edge, which.
Speaker 1: Is actually a kind of a good point there. Do y'
Speaker 1: all think there's some some truth to that.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I want to touch base on what Christy
Speaker 4: said too of what the standard is, and it should
Speaker 4: be Super Bowls, it should be playoff wins, and that's
Speaker 4: all viable. What I do really like about McCarthy and
Speaker 4: kind of how he coaches this team is he tells
Speaker 4: them you're not responsible for anything that did not happen
Speaker 4: before us. And so, yeah, in the last three years
Speaker 4: there has not been a success in playoff victory, and
Speaker 4: so you can scrutinize that part of McCarthy, But what
Speaker 4: I do like is that he doesn't put the pressure
Speaker 4: of the last twenty five years, thirty years on DAK
Speaker 4: to fix that, because again, there were predecessors that came
Speaker 4: after Roger Stallback that also didn't get it done, that
Speaker 4: also still contributed to this dry spell that you've seen
Speaker 4: of not getting past the divisional round in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: And so I think as far as hearing from Troy
Speaker 4: that he still believes in DAK, that should hold weight
Speaker 4: because he did get it done. And given football was
Speaker 4: very different from when Troy played to now, but he's
Speaker 4: still an analyst. He's a color analyst and he knows
Speaker 4: what the heck he's talking about. So I think if
Speaker 4: Troy Aikman can sit there and say, hey, Dak's still
Speaker 4: your guy, he can get it done. Who are we
Speaker 4: to argue with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, really Troy's greatest quote, and I think it puts
Speaker 5: everything in context. One of his greatest quotes, and this
Speaker 5: is back when he was playing. This was from back
Speaker 5: in the nineties. Yeah, because it's always Oh, Dallas is
Speaker 5: such a great sports town, and Troy said, Dallas is
Speaker 5: a winner's town. They love you when you win. Yep, right,
Speaker 5: And of course you can say that about any community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see him on Twitter. You see it everywhere
Speaker 1: on social media now, So no truth to that.
Speaker 4: It's so true. And you know it also goes back.
Speaker 4: We were talking about the Bills kicker and I don't
Speaker 4: know if you all saw that story trending about just
Speaker 4: him having to deactivate a social media because of the
Speaker 4: amount of hate he was getting after missing the field goal.
Speaker 4: I just it's so sad to see kind of this
Speaker 4: world we live in where media takes over the human
Speaker 4: aspect of these guys. And yes, look, the loss was
Speaker 4: bad enough. We don't have to be the first ones
Speaker 4: to tell the guys in the locker room that the
Speaker 4: loss was embarrassing, that it sucked being in the locker
Speaker 4: room after the game. They knew that it was very obvious.
Speaker 4: And you know, after that locker room experience, I had
Speaker 4: never been. That was my first time being in a
Speaker 4: locker room after that kind of loss. And Christy and
Speaker 4: I were talking right before and I told her it
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know what to expect to go
Speaker 4: in here. I really wish people would keep in mind
Speaker 4: and look, yes, you can be upset. You can be
Speaker 4: mad that you have a very long off season with
Speaker 4: a very special team that should still be playing, should
Speaker 4: still be preparing to get ready for a game this weekend.
Speaker 4: You can be upset about that, but also just remember
Speaker 4: these guys are human. I mean the human aspect of this.
Speaker 4: We talked about it all the time on this podcast.
Speaker 4: There's no need to get personal. There's no need to
Speaker 4: send them hateful messages and other really gross, ugly things
Speaker 4: that aren't even speakable I mean, the fact that that
Speaker 4: is just such a common thing that these guys have
Speaker 4: to deal with really, you know, Dallas, but across the
Speaker 4: NFL just urgs me so much because at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, yeah, it's just football.
Speaker 5: Well you know, but when Tony Romo after the playoff loss,
Speaker 5: and Tony Romo says, if this is the worst thing
Speaker 5: that ever happens to me in my life, then would
Speaker 5: have had a good life. Well he got crucified for that,
Speaker 5: you know, by some fans. Not all I mean, but
Speaker 5: it's hard to keep things in perspective when losses are fresh.
Speaker 5: But the thing about Tyler Bass getting all that vitriol,
Speaker 5: this is the Buffalo kicker that missed wide right.
Speaker 6: And it's what happened with Scott.
Speaker 5: Norwood, the kicker who missed it in the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: in the nineties for Buffalo and the Giants win the Super.
Speaker 6: Bowl instead of the Bills.
Speaker 5: Wide right. That is part of the lexicon of the NFL,
Speaker 5: and it's the two words words in Buffalo Bill's fandom
Speaker 5: and then to miss wide right. So what happens with
Speaker 5: Tyler Bass is what happens with these Dallas Cowboys, the
Speaker 5: current players. That's they all saying paying for the sins.
Speaker 6: Of your fathers.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
Speaker 5: Well, of course they're not their fathers, but they're you know,
Speaker 5: the people that came before them. And so when you
Speaker 5: have the way that you lost in the first round
Speaker 5: and these these players feel the pressure, I'm to your point.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that Mike McCarthy says, hey, they're not responsible
Speaker 5: for that, but they have to live with it in
Speaker 5: terms of the pressure that they feel from cowboys.
Speaker 4: Do you have to fix it now because you are
Speaker 4: responsible for what has happened in the last three years that
Speaker 4: you are responsible for it and you still haven't gotten
Speaker 4: it done. So I'm not saying there's not room to
Speaker 4: be upset and emotional for the next long off season
Speaker 4: that we all have, But I'm just saying there's limits
Speaker 4: to how we channel that frustration. Everybody. We don't have
Speaker 4: to send gross messages to players to channel frustration. It's
Speaker 4: just weird.
Speaker 5: Do y'all think it's worse for the players or the coaches.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know how much of the coaches actually
Speaker 4: see to be fair, like Mike McCarthy's not on Twitter,
Speaker 4: that's true to be getting the direct mess well, but
Speaker 4: his kids.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Zach, that's what Mike McCarthy talks about is you know,
Speaker 5: it is as I can take it.
Speaker 6: He says, I don't like it when you know, my
Speaker 6: kids have to deal.
Speaker 5: That's fair with this, And I would say in some
Speaker 5: ways it's worse for the coaches because you can't fire
Speaker 5: all the players, right, get a salary cap and money,
Speaker 5: they're constraints. You can't fire a whole team. That's why
Speaker 5: you get rid of staffs. Yeah, and so you know, yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel bad for the coaches because usually there's the
Speaker 5: ones that are out the door.
Speaker 1: Yeh.
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis in the last day of Locker Room, when
Speaker 4: they were doing locker room clean up, he talked about
Speaker 4: Dak and Mike having the hardest jobs in America and
Speaker 4: he said that he said, the coach of the Dallas
Speaker 4: Cowboys and the quarterback have the hardest jobs in America
Speaker 4: and they get the most scrutiny. So I think that
Speaker 4: was spot on.
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Speaker 5: So I have some trivia for you for some playoffs.
Speaker 5: Trivia Okay, I love trivia?
Speaker 6: Yes day?
Speaker 1: Oh goodness?
Speaker 4: Really yeah, that's what. Yeah, that's what we fall asleep
Speaker 4: watching every night. It's like clockwork. Matt and I are
Speaker 4: like time to turn on Family viewed such old people.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell her that. She said that's what she
Speaker 1: watches to go to sleep.
Speaker 5: So let's talk about how things how things work in
Speaker 5: the NFL for the playoffs. So let's take how much
Speaker 5: players get paid? Okay, so we had Round one Cowboys, uh, Packers.
Speaker 5: Why did the Cowboys players get paid more for playing
Speaker 5: in the Round one play a wild card round than
Speaker 5: the Packers players? I mean, the Packers won, and why
Speaker 5: would one team get paid more?
Speaker 6: And how much did they get paid? I'd say, would
Speaker 6: you like to take a guess?
Speaker 5: It's it's a what happens is in the NFL. Once
Speaker 5: you get to the playoffs, there are different amounts for
Speaker 5: each round, and it's a flat payment, just like Stanley flat.
Speaker 5: Everyone gets paid the same thing.
Speaker 6: The players get paid the same.
Speaker 4: Amount, I'm gonna say because they had higher seating.
Speaker 5: Because they were division winners. Right, So if you, if
Speaker 5: you were a division winner, you for playing in round
Speaker 5: one fifty five hundred dollars each player on the team.
Speaker 6: Okay, if you were if you were.
Speaker 5: A practice squad player, you did get your weekly practice
Speaker 5: squad check of twelve thousand dollars. So as long as
Speaker 5: you keep going in the playoffs and you have practices
Speaker 5: leading into the next round, practice squad players get paid
Speaker 5: their practice checks.
Speaker 3: So each player on the Cowboys roster got paid fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for the first.
Speaker 5: Five hundred dollars playing in the wildcard run. And the
Speaker 5: Packers players, because they were the wild card entry and
Speaker 5: not one of the division winners, they paid five thousand
Speaker 5: dollars less forty five thousand, five hundred dollars. Now, ultimately
Speaker 5: that the Packers the pack The Packers came out ahead.
Speaker 5: Packers came out ahead because they advanced to the divisional
Speaker 5: round and the divisional round. Everyone, all players get paid
Speaker 5: the same amount in the divisional round, whether you're a
Speaker 5: wild card entry or division winner, you get paid fifty thousand,
Speaker 5: five hundred dollars. So the Packers players, they were eliminated
Speaker 5: after round two, So one hundred and one thousand dollars
Speaker 5: fifty thousand, five hundred for two games.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: So now for the conference championship game where.
Speaker 6: Let's say that.
Speaker 5: So we've got what Detroit Right is hosting. So the
Speaker 5: four teams actually eight teams now four teams, okay, in
Speaker 5: the conference championship games, seventy.
Speaker 6: Three thousand dollars per player.
Speaker 5: Okay, So all of those players, and then if you
Speaker 5: make the Super Bowl, you're back to a difference. If
Speaker 5: you win, if you're on the winning team, it's one
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty four thousand dollars. If you win, if
Speaker 5: you're on the losing team, eighty seven eighty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: So there's a discrepancy roughly two hundred something thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Well, depending if you play all four if you play
Speaker 5: all four rounds, and it's more, it's more than that.
Speaker 6: It's over three.
Speaker 5: It's about three hundred and seventy if you win and
Speaker 5: all that. Now, here's the thing enough to go to
Speaker 5: the playoffs? Well that that sounds like a lot of money,
Speaker 5: right Hey to me, now here's the thing. To me,
Speaker 5: if I were in the players Union, this would be
Speaker 5: the one thing that I would would change because the
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money, isn't it.
Speaker 6: I mean that's that's.
Speaker 4: The person on it, on the team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's that's a lot of money.
Speaker 5: But what if I'm pick a player for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Let Lewis go?
Speaker 6: Okay, Jordan Lewis, let.
Speaker 4: Me site his all over here.
Speaker 5: Okay, let me get to Jordan Lewis's base salary.
Speaker 6: So give me a moment. It's Tyler Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 5: I think it's okay, Well, Dak, what is Dak's base salary?
Speaker 5: Look on there for sportspo track for.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine nine million.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, yeah, but what's so his salary?
Speaker 6: That's his salary. I need his base salary, not his
Speaker 6: for the year working base salary.
Speaker 5: Base salary is twenty nine million. Okay, So twenty nine
Speaker 5: million divided by eighteen games is one point.
Speaker 6: Six one million. Dollars.
Speaker 5: So Dak Prescott gets paid one point sixty one million
Speaker 5: dollars in base salary per game.
Speaker 6: You work all year and you make it.
Speaker 5: To the playoffs, and your paycheck is fifty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see where we're going with this.
Speaker 3: Hear me out though, extra fift thousand dollars. I'm going
Speaker 3: out there and get this win thousand dollars. Fifty thousand dollars, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I also.
Speaker 5: See, like, why is it a pay can it's.
Speaker 4: A pay compared to what they're making.
Speaker 1: But when the.
Speaker 5: Ratings are higher, more people are watching. You know, I
Speaker 5: don't think that they discount the I don't think they
Speaker 5: discount parking and concessions, do they? I mean, everyone's paying.
Speaker 4: It's still I it's so interesting. I'd be interested to
Speaker 4: compare that to somebody that obviously doesn't get paid as
Speaker 4: much as Dak. Okay, Dak gets Let's do that, Okay,
Speaker 4: let's do it.
Speaker 5: Don If you're if you're a rookie, If you're a rookie,
Speaker 5: there are minimum based salaries.
Speaker 6: There are minimum based salaries in the NFL.
Speaker 5: So if you are a rookie and you're on the
Speaker 5: fifty three man roster. Your minimum salary is seven hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand dollars. So if you divide that by
Speaker 5: eighteen weeks, okay, it is forty one thousand, six hundred
Speaker 5: and sixty six dollars. So for a rookie making the minimum,
Speaker 5: So Brandon Aubrey, let's say Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 6: For Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 5: Playing in that playoff game meant a lot Butter Butter
Speaker 5: actually got a raise. Butter made an extra one thousand
Speaker 5: dollars basically then he would have if it were a
Speaker 5: regular season.
Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't count because he's technically not considered a
Speaker 4: rookie in the MANAF.
Speaker 5: Actually, that is an interesting question because Brandon Aubrey, according
Speaker 5: to NFL in terms of like records and stuff, because
Speaker 5: he would be an all time rookie record holder, is
Speaker 5: an NFL kicker, but because he has experience in a
Speaker 5: previous pro league USFL, the league is contending that Brandon
Speaker 5: Aubrey in fact not a rookie but a first year player.
Speaker 5: Yet Brandon Aubrey is paid the rookie minimum of seven
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand dollars instead of the first year
Speaker 5: minimum of eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars. So there's
Speaker 5: a discrepancy there.
Speaker 1: The math is in mathing.
Speaker 5: I have a.
Speaker 4: Headache, you know.
Speaker 5: Oh it's a Thursday morning. I should have told everyone
Speaker 5: to bring their bring their calculators today.
Speaker 4: My mom's a math.
Speaker 3: So what about what about Mozzie Smith? His base salary
Speaker 3: is one point three million, So.
Speaker 6: Okay, so we divide.
Speaker 5: So you take one point three one point three million
Speaker 5: by eighteen, undivide it by eighteen, and it's seventy two thousand,
Speaker 5: seventy two thousand, two hundred and twenty two dollars. So
Speaker 5: Mozzi took a twenty two thousand dollars pay cut to
Speaker 5: pay in the play in the playoffs. But to your
Speaker 5: but you're right, it's fifty thousands to two thousand more
Speaker 5: than than you had before.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's extra money that you had before to put in
Speaker 1: your big account.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: But that's that's how that's how it works in the NFL.
Speaker 5: The point is to let me go kick over here
Speaker 5: running back.
Speaker 4: I won't give Brandon Aubrey any run for his money
Speaker 4: at all, but I just it.
Speaker 5: Is interesting though that once you get to the Super
Speaker 5: Bowl the winning team, it's basically double right, yeah, and
Speaker 5: then the same The same thing holds for the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 5: even though the Pro Bowl isn't a true game anymore
Speaker 5: like it used to be. So let's see that was
Speaker 5: interesting every year one hundred excuse me, no, it raises
Speaker 5: a little bit each year. So for example, last year
Speaker 5: would have been say like thirty eight thousand dollars and
Speaker 5: then compared to forty thousand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what was it just.
Speaker 5: In the day like in the sixties, Oh.
Speaker 6: Like five thousand dollars?
Speaker 4: I mean, but money value was different in fact that
Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 3: salary is for twenty twenty three one point seven twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four.
Speaker 1: It's twenty nine million.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the one point seven million.
Speaker 5: So for each game, his base salary this past year
Speaker 5: was just over ninety four thousand dollars and then fifty
Speaker 5: five hundred for the wild Card playoff game. The highest
Speaker 5: base salary was Tony Pollard. All of his money was
Speaker 5: put in the base salary because he was franchise attacked.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so even though DAK counted twenty seven million
Speaker 5: this past year against the salary cap, with all of
Speaker 5: the restructuring bonuses and signing bonus and all of that,
Speaker 5: his base was one point seven million.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a few questions. The number one question
Speaker 3: is what gets excited about the upcoming off season.
Speaker 4: Who's that was?
Speaker 1: Oscar? H Oscar?
Speaker 4: Shouty's. Oscar is very loyal. Anytime I would tweet anything
Speaker 4: but Bland, he was ready with his response. It was
Speaker 4: the same, so shout out.
Speaker 6: Well, there's so much to build on. Yeah, right. I
Speaker 6: think the continuity.
Speaker 5: Of the offense is something to look forward to. I
Speaker 5: think getting CD signed to an extension is something to
Speaker 5: look forward to. I think the improvement is the run
Speaker 5: game is something to really look forward to. It's just
Speaker 5: that it's cloudy right now because Tony Pollard being a
Speaker 5: free agent, Rico Dowdell's restricted, and then with Tyler Battish
Speaker 5: and Tyron Smith may be a very different looking.
Speaker 6: Line right in the in the next year.
Speaker 5: So I think that that's going to be a big
Speaker 5: emphasis is improving the run game. I think that having
Speaker 5: continuity on special teams and Brandon Aubrey coming back is
Speaker 5: a huge thing. And defense, boy, so many questions there
Speaker 5: in terms of what you're going to do. There's I
Speaker 5: think there's gonna be a lot of changes in the
Speaker 5: in the defensive backfield with guys like jay Ron and
Speaker 5: Curse and Stefan Gilmour, Jordan Lewis free agents there. But
Speaker 5: I think improving the linebacker corps is something to really
Speaker 5: look forward to because because the injury to Layton vander
Speaker 5: ash was just the killer blow.
Speaker 6: It was a brutal blow. And I'm when.
Speaker 5: You say most excited about to me, I would say
Speaker 5: for me, it's more like intriguing and curious about. That's
Speaker 5: that's what I'm going to What am I going to
Speaker 5: be focused on? And I would phrase it that way,
Speaker 5: and That's what I'm going to be looking at.
Speaker 4: I think it's also guys coming back from injury. So
Speaker 4: obviously Trayvon Diggs went out prior to Week three in
Speaker 4: practice with a freak ACL tear, him coming back and
Speaker 4: being able to kind of re establish that and build
Speaker 4: off of the year that he was supposed to have
Speaker 4: this season if not for that injury. To Marvin Overshown, Yes,
Speaker 4: another guy you can be so excited about from what
Speaker 4: you saw in the preseason ahead of his injury, John
Speaker 4: Stevens Junior on the offensive side of the ball, who
Speaker 4: great good flashes during training camps that we were so
Speaker 4: excited about. A tight end. Is he a wide receiver?
Speaker 4: Is he a both?
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 4: But again, you have these really talented guys coming back
Speaker 4: from injury, and those I think with de Marvin Overshown
Speaker 4: and obviously Layton vandersh being out impacting the linebacker corps
Speaker 4: had a big ripple effect on the linebackers this year
Speaker 4: to your point, Christy, So having guys come back from
Speaker 4: injury that were projected to have really big seasons and
Speaker 4: getting them through the hardest part of their injury and
Speaker 4: getting them back on the field is something I'm excited
Speaker 4: about personally.
Speaker 3: I'd say, knowing that this team is so close, you
Speaker 3: know so close.
Speaker 1: Like christ you mentioned the twelve and five seasons.
Speaker 3: Back to back, three straight seasons, twelve one seasons.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You talk about.
Speaker 3: The talent that this team has, the talent that there's
Speaker 3: out there, and of course this is my first NFL
Speaker 3: off season, so I'm excited to see the way that
Speaker 3: are the different players that come in yea, you know
Speaker 3: that could add to this new offense, or you know,
Speaker 3: if they maintain the same guys that they keep just
Speaker 3: seeing how they fit in, even defensive guys, the new
Speaker 3: guys that we could possibly.
Speaker 1: See come in as well. Uh so, I.
Speaker 3: Think, I mean that's what that's what makes it fun
Speaker 3: about the NFLF season. You really don't know, it's it's
Speaker 3: really about the unknown. But with knowing that this team
Speaker 3: was so close, you know, it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 3: how much more and how much fun it'll be to
Speaker 3: see how much how much closer they can get to
Speaker 3: possibly like an NFC championship game. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4: Even look at this time last year, you had no
Speaker 4: idea this time last year you'd have a Brandon Cooks. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you had no idea you'd have a Stefan Gilmore. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you just had You had no idea you'd have a
Speaker 4: Brandon Aubrey. I mean, there's so much unknown. And Christy
Speaker 4: always talks about the retention and the changes that come
Speaker 4: in the off season between trades, free agency, everything about
Speaker 4: twenty percent twenty to twenty five percent being changes. But
Speaker 4: that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. You can
Speaker 4: have a lot of really great additions to this team.
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to really have the glass half full
Speaker 4: here because we got through the emotional couple of weeks
Speaker 4: together and we had our therapy session on here. But look,
Speaker 4: there's just you're also building off of a really talented roster,
Speaker 4: and I think that's why the loss was so disappointing,
Speaker 4: because of the talent that you had already built on
Speaker 4: this team that's still going to be there, maybe not
Speaker 4: all of it, but there's also going to be new
Speaker 4: additions that could help as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was your favorite surprise of the season. That's
Speaker 5: a good one, and it doesn't have to be a player.
Speaker 5: It could be you know what, what or something something
Speaker 5: or someone that exceeded your expectations.
Speaker 1: Okay, dang I have to go.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Deck.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Deck.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I came in I think it was I
Speaker 3: think it was the forty.
Speaker 1: Nine Ers game. It was it was ame that was
Speaker 1: my first week, and I was like, hmm, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 6: We'll know where to go, but up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I was like, okay, thanks a little rock
Speaker 3: rough week over.
Speaker 1: Rough week for my first week.
Speaker 3: But just seeing, you know, his improvements in the way
Speaker 3: that his instincts have changed, his reads.
Speaker 1: Have been have gotten so much better.
Speaker 3: Granted, of course, I know fans don't want to hear
Speaker 3: this because of the way they went out and pretty
Speaker 3: much no one showed up that Sunday, But I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, like, Dak showed that he's he's a top
Speaker 3: QB in NFL, and I think since that game he
Speaker 3: really showed that. So I'd say that's probably my my
Speaker 3: biggest surprise.
Speaker 6: Oh man, that one's hard.
Speaker 4: I don't know biggest surprise. I'm gonna I'm gonna veer
Speaker 4: a little bit here. I'm gonna say for me being
Speaker 4: my first year actually covering the team and being able
Speaker 4: to do that, my biggest surprise was getting through it
Speaker 4: and and uh, fighting through the burnout because it was hard.
Speaker 4: So personally that was my biggest surprise. It was really
Speaker 4: a lot and I think, uh yeah, just learning through that.
Speaker 4: But as far as the team, I I mean, I
Speaker 4: gotta go with the obvious.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, Look, if you knew me, it's across your
Speaker 5: heart right and mine as well.
Speaker 4: Butter next to that hers, But if Nicle, I really
Speaker 4: wish you knew me before the whole Brandon Aubrey thing started,
Speaker 4: because they're in training camp, Christy get a test. All
Speaker 4: last year, all I nagged about was the kicking situation
Speaker 4: and how firm I was in wanting to keep Brett
Speaker 4: Maher on the roster. I didn't agree even after his
Speaker 4: uh incident in the playoffs last year. I was very
Speaker 4: firm on wanting to keep a stable kicker. And that
Speaker 4: was fear talking because I didn't know what was ahead.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then in comes Brandon Aubrey randomly during training camp.
Speaker 4: Everyone's like, who is this guy? He used to play
Speaker 4: soccer and he did not have a great training camp.
Speaker 4: I mean, every time you saw tweets about Brandon Aubrey
Speaker 4: was like, oh he missed two today, Oh he missed
Speaker 4: three today. He never had a perfect day at training camp,
Speaker 4: I think maybe except once. So in my head, I'm
Speaker 4: sitting here on the podcast, real smug, like, here we
Speaker 4: go with another kicking situation, and then all of a sudden, yeah,
Speaker 4: here comes Brandon Aubrey, proving everybody but myself wrong. I
Speaker 4: will happily, happily, happily, happily admit that I was wrong
Speaker 4: about Brandon Aubrey. And that was the best surprise I
Speaker 4: could have asked for all season, being a kicking queen
Speaker 4: and loving a good stable kicker. Brandon Aubrey was such
Speaker 4: a fantastic find by the scouting department here John Fossil
Speaker 4: had a hand in it in finding him in the USFL.
Speaker 4: Just such a great story. Yeah, he wasn't even supposed
Speaker 4: to ever kick again, much less in the NFL. He
Speaker 4: was a software engineer that kind of just was inspired
Speaker 4: by his wife to come and try. Fantastic story, fantastic guy,
Speaker 4: fantastic player. That was my biggest surprise was seeing just
Speaker 4: a historic season from Butter.
Speaker 3: And shout out to a Hailey Sudden, former team reporter,
Speaker 3: my big sist. She actually was the one who I
Speaker 3: guess predicted that he'd have a pretty solid she did.
Speaker 8: She did.
Speaker 4: She was adamant. We were arguing with her about it.
Speaker 4: We were like, Haley, girl, are you not seeing what's
Speaker 4: going on in training camp right now? And she's like
Speaker 4: former soccer player here, trust me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's interesting because Rich Basacia, who is the Packers
Speaker 5: special teams coordinator, but he was here several years and
Speaker 5: friends with Rich and his family and his daughter Mattie
Speaker 5: who worked here for the Cowboys, and had a great
Speaker 5: conversation with Rich before the wild card game, and he said,
Speaker 5: make sure you give Henry Schroka a pat on the
Speaker 5: back and some love and recognition for all the work
Speaker 5: that he does in looking for kickers and recognize his
Speaker 5: part of bringing in Brandon Aubrey as well.
Speaker 6: So shout out to Henry, and I.
Speaker 5: Agree, but Brandon Aubrey is my most pleasant surprise.
Speaker 6: So you bet.
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