1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Will you love basketball, golf, soccer or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win? All right, everybody first round 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: is ending up. I'm gonna bring on John Middlecoff, former 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: NFL scout for about twenty five to thirty minutes. I 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Bears move, the Jets trade up, Patriots, 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: get Mac Jones. Let me start with Trey Lance. So 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: long story short, I live in La. Trey Lance was 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: working out in LA about three weeks ago for the 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: draft and ran into Trey Lance really really impressed with 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: him as a kid, good size, looks in the eyes, 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: really humble, really thoughtful. And after meeting him, it's funny, 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: I sent a text to a couple of gms that 16 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I thought may have the chance to get him. One 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: of them, John Lynch, and I said, hey John, And 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: by the way, when I do this, I know it 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: has no influence on the general managers. But John Lynch 20 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: is a buddy of mine, and so I thought I'll 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: just send him this I'm sure he has it. I 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: know it's not going to influence him, but you know, 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: you take care of your friends. John was always great 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: to me, is always great to me. So I text John. 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I just met Trey Lance. I don't 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: know what you're doing with the number three pick, but 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, blah blah blah blah blah, totally impressed, humble, 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: what a great kid. And John's like, thanks, Colin, I 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: don't hear anything. And after the third beg tonight, I 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: get a couple of fists bumps texted to me by 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: John Lynch. So I know I had no influence, but 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: nonetheless it made me laugh. John's a great guy, and 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: I actually think it's the pick. I just don't believe 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: in a division with Russell Wilson twice a year, Matt 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: Stafford twice a year, Kyler Murray twice a year, I'm 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna have Mac Jones b arm c athlete, one year 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: starter in college, I don't buy it. Trey Lance is 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: the guy for me. Speaking of that, John Mintlkoff knows 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: the Bay Area well. He knows the Niners and the 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: Raiders as well as anybody. So this is just what 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I heard Lynch was more Trey Lance, Kyle was more Mac. 42 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: The Scouts kind of leaned in John's direction and in 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: the end, Trey Lance blew them away in the pro day. 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: So John, your reaction to what the Niners did with 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, Yeah, I mean it would have been it 46 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: would have been despised, you know with forty nine Ers fans, 47 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: and you know it didn't make any sense, but ultimately 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: it's a moot point because they took the other guy. 49 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that really stands out is 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: you text him with With Lynch, I've known Adam Peters, 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: they're kind of his right hand guy for a long time. Clearly, 52 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: we just have a lot of intel on the type 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: players Kyle likes personality wise. Character is a big big deal. 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't say it's quite Belichick, you know, 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: where it's very very like Mac Jones, like perfect off 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: the field, just historically what the Patriots are into. But 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I was around Andy Reid like a little more open minded, 58 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, Andy d al Davis is like, you know, 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: they lean talent. Kyle is very very rigid and John Lynch, 60 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think he leans that way too. Stanford guy, 61 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: what stood out to me about Trey Lances. He was 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: a Condon guy, a CIA guy, and they also have 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. And historically, you know, it's the Staffords, it's 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the Mannings, it's the Breezes, it's the Alex Smith's. And 65 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: when when I saw that they got Trey Lance, and 66 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: I've been trying to get him on podcasts and you know, 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: talk to this guy, that that really stood out to me. 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: I went, Wow, this guy is with the crew that 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: really values character. And then the physical attributes he lost 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: to the Homes in the Super Bowl. Kyle did. Obviously, 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Brady got him the one year when he had Matt Ryan, 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: who was really good. Brady's just dramatically better. And then 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: this year on Monday Night Football when their team, you know, 74 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: the Niners didn't miss the playoffs this year by seven games, 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: they missed it by two, and down the stretch they 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: handled the Rams, beat the breaks off the Cardinals. I mean, 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: they don't need I mean, obviously they would have loved 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: Darreon Rodgers their quarterback, but they just need solid quarterback play. 79 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: But Josh Allen on a Monday night football game destroyed them. 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: And Kyle had comments after the game basically like, I 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: love this guy coming out and just when you sit 82 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: there on the sideline and watch this talent, like, to 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: beat this guy, you have to have a great player 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: on your side. And they talked on Monday and they said, ideally, 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: what you would want is Drew Brees that can move 86 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson. Now, obviously that's unfair to even think 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: that Trey Lance can ever become that. But I think 88 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: the character and the intelligence from what I've heard of 89 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, on top of the physical attributes, that is 90 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: a risk. I mean, anytime Josh Allen was a big risk. 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: But I as a as a fan of the draft 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: and someone who's lived it, I respect them taking a 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: massive swing for the fence, a calculated risk, taking a 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: high character guy. But he doesn't he hasn't played that 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: much Colin, and he's not coming from a big school. 96 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's coming from now. You can argue they've 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: they've produced three NFL quarterbacks in six years, Carson Wentz, 98 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, and this guy that's pretty impressive or Easton Stick. 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Excuse me, yeah, let me talk about the other Bay 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Area team, formerly the Raiders, now the Las Vegas Raiders. 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I thought they were the first team to reach with 102 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood. It's funny I was hearing a lot of 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: the ESPN analysts say, well, he's got a lot of potential, 104 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: there's a great ceiling. And my takeaway is, when's the 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: last Saban player at Obama that didn't get close to 106 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: his potential at Alabama? I mean, Nick's pretty good at 107 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: squee he's in all that potential out. I don't think 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: he's terribly strong. I think he's an inside offensive lineman 109 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I haven't loved their picks in the 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: first round. I think Leatherwood was available in the second round. 111 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was a reach, I really and I 112 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: don't like saying that because he'll start in the NFL, 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: but boy, I thought it was a reach. Yeah. I 114 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: think sometimes I immediately text an SEC scout he's like, 115 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: I like Leatherwood, but I had multiple offensive linemen on 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: the board that are still on the board that I 117 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: would have taken over the guy you know, and you 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: look at the division that Denver didn't overthink it. They 119 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: just took Patrick certain, a guy that you know at 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Alabama Boom, plug and play, ready to rock and roll. 121 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: Look at the Chargers. They end up with a tackle, boom, 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: plug and play, ready to roll. The Raiders back to 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: back years Damon Arnette last year, it's like, whoa would 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: you go in Ohio State? They've one thing with Mayok 125 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: and Gruden these last several years. It's basically Ohio State, 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: BAM or Clemson. That's just the way they lean, which 127 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: I got no issue with, but not every That's not 128 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: the way the draft works. Sometimes a guy from Virginia 129 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Tech can be better. I think the risk, Colin is 130 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: that they're comparing it to their recent tackle, Colton Miller, 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: who was much more of a projection who then lived 132 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: up to it. But sometimes, like I don't want to 133 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: say they got lucky there, but that was a pretty 134 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: big swing and it worked out. And they keep taking 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: these taking huge kind of stretches and some of these 136 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: outliers instead of just don't over outthink the room here. 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: And what's weird is watching Mayock on TV for a 138 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: decade plus, he felt very meat and potatoes, nuts and 139 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: bolts like these aren't his type picks. This does feel 140 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: a little more Gruden every time it does. You know, 141 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: it is interesting. So a team that we're not going 142 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: to talk a ton about the Jacksonville Jaguars, but we 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: now with Urban Meyer. I think we're both keenly interested. Yeah, 144 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: so you get your franchise quarterback. Then they go and 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: at Travis et n By the way, I had two 146 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: gms tell me that they could make a compelling argument 147 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: he'll bed a better pro than Nause Harris because he's 148 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: a better pass catcher. He fumbles a little more, but 149 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: he's a very good pass catcher. So you got your 150 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: you got your running back, you got your quarterback. I 151 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: think it's going to be very interesting U as we 152 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: as we tape this right now, I am waiting for 153 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Tampa's pick, and if you get it, tell me um 154 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Joe Tryon from Washington the past. So that means with 155 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: the first pick tomorrow, you could take Liam Eichenberg, the 156 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: tackle from Notre Dame again my people love him, or 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, the center from Alabama. Those are both plug 158 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: in play guys. Yeah, so it's interesting. Do you think 159 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Urban goes with that first pick tomorrow? First three picks 160 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: all offensive guys from big schools? Yeah, one shock. I 161 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: mean that's who he is, right, I mean, that's just 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: his side of the ball. Where he's always lent. I 163 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: think the Etn pick makes a lot of sense. You know, 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: definitely in Ohio State, they had powerhouse running backs and 165 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: it made it easier on his quarterbacks who were never 166 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: as good as this guy. So it immediately just takes 167 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: a little pressure off Etn. Like Lawrence, high character guy, 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: very talented guy. The one knock I've heard on him, 169 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: he's a home run hitter. In college, he ran like 170 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: a four four six for the scouts that I talk 171 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: four four seven range. It's not like he's running four 172 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: three five now. I like Travis Etn. He's a big 173 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: time player. I got no issue with the pick, but 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean they could immediately take another. 175 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you take one of those offensive lineman. You 176 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: got three starters with your three first picks, and the 177 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: most important players your quarterback there. That division's good. I mean, 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: I saw you tweeting about Tennessee. That's I like John Robinson. 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: I've known him for a long time. I'm with you, 180 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: that's a risky pick, getting a guy with a bad 181 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: back in a division that's really good. Chris Ballard a 182 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: little out of his comfort zone. This, I guess they 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: took quitty pay. Never mind quitty Pay. Yeah, they didn't 184 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: take the Giants took the wide receiver from from So 185 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: I like that pick. I mean that division's good. It's 186 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna be you know, the Texans are gonna be terrible, 187 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: but the culture gonna be good because we think Wentz 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: is gonna bounce back definitely, and the Titans are just 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: a solid run operation. But if the Jags immediately just 190 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: go from being a three to win team to seven eight, 191 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're gonna factor in. Let's talk the Jets. 192 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: So this so I made my big bold prediction and 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I put it on Twitter. I put it on my 194 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: camera because I wanted I wanted to put myself out there. 195 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting at home and I'm watching the picks 196 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and I'm watching the Chargers take Rashaan Slater. And I 197 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: had talked to to LESCo two days ago and I said, 198 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: would you move up to get one of your offensive linemen? 199 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: And he said, I'm not so sure. I'm gonna have 200 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: to move up. These cornerbacks now they're moving up the draft, 201 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: we may not have to move up. Because I knew 202 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers wanted a corner and they wanted a left tackle. 203 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: We all know that, right, and so when they got Slater, 204 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: I thought tell Us Coo told me he loved Elijah 205 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker. I thought, God, if I was Joe Douglas, 206 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I would move up. And literally the Jets made a trade. 207 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: So I went on and said, they're gonna take Elijah 208 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker. I think this is really interesting. So quarterback 209 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: interior offensive linemen. So they are aggressive and they move up. 210 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: The Bears are aggressive and get Justin Davis. But yet 211 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers were patient and got their offensive line. New 212 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: England was patient and got mac Jones. And I guess 213 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: my takeaway was on this John, there's really a lot 214 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: of different ways to attack this draft. I love what 215 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: the Jets did and the Bears, but I also thought 216 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: New England. So New England just sat and waited and 217 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Mac Jones they didn't. I mean, in the end, didn't 218 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Mac Jones get drafted where he should the fifth quarterback? Yeah? 219 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think it was. I honestly thought if 220 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: New England didn't take him, he could have tumbled. You know, 221 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: it might have gone in the mid to late twenties. 222 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: It was that was his last spot to not have 223 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: a free fall down the hill, right, I mean it 224 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: was gonna get pretty ugly. I'm with you. There's the 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: great part about the draft, and there are multiple ways 226 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: to do it right. You can be aggressive like the 227 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Niners way early. You could sit there. I thought the Cowboys, 228 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: how about that? Like the guys, they wanted to go 229 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: off the board, and what do they do? They do 230 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: a deal with the division rival, but they moved back 231 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: to spots. They still get a stud and they gained 232 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: a third round pick. Like that's a high level. Jerry's 233 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: a good GM. Jerry's problem is he resigns guys when 234 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: he probably should let him walk him picking players, it's 235 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: not an issue. Hey, I really, let's talk Dallas. I 236 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: know they wanted a corner my intel was, but the 237 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: minute they couldn't get them, they're like, all right, let's 238 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: get the best defensive player. Now. I don't think they 239 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: have an urgent need at linebacker. But the problem is 240 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: their linebackers have health issues. So where if you were 241 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: a scout for the Cowboys, would you have pushed for 242 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Micah because they have two? You know they've got linebackers. Well, 243 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: the way I had this player described to me is 244 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: he can play a role in a four three defense, 245 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: which they're going to run with dan Quinn a little 246 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: a better version of what Bruce Irvan was back when 247 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Seattle got him with dan Quinn a decade ago, as 248 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: this stand up sam linebacker who can also rush the 249 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: passer and the patriot or I mean, the Cowboys just 250 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: need better players up front, right, Guys that can tackle. 251 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: Vander Esch gets hurt a lot. So this guy can 252 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: go sideline the sideline, but he also brings you pass 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: rush value. And he's just a blue chip body type. 254 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: You know. You just get a guy that's six four 255 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: sixty five two hundred fifty two hundred sixty pounds that 256 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: can run. You need guys like that in the league, 257 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: hybrid players what sometimes we try to pigeonhole a guy. 258 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: If he can do multiple things, if your defensive coordinator 259 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: is good enough, you're gonna be in pretty good shape. 260 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: This guy was dominant at Penn State two years ago. 261 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: He said, out this year, but in that conference when 262 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: it was really good, a Hiast State was loaded that year, 263 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Wisconsin was really good. Even Harbus team wasn't that bad. 264 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen. You could argue the Big Ten was 265 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: arguably the best conference that year, was right up there 266 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: two years ago, and this guy was a top two 267 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: or three player in that conference. So it's just to me, 268 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. Now, is dan Quinn used 269 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: this guy right? Their defense in Atlanta hasn't been really good, 270 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: So do you feel comfortable with this guy using him correctly? 271 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: But this guy's a big time talent, and yeah, I 272 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: like what really. I liked what the Eagles did to 273 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: get up and get aggressive to get their wide receiver. 274 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: I love my favorite pick of the night. Part of 275 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: this is luck because the guy fell. I give the 276 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: Bears a lot of credit. So let's talk that because 277 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: now I was gonna say John, So, Ryan Pace is 278 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: in trouble. I mean he's getting bad press. I think 279 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: people like Naggie, there's a lot of doubters on Ryan Pace. 280 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: You could make the argument that by moving to get 281 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback, he's gonna get three to four days of 282 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: great press. Yeah, and that if he was a selfish 283 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: GM he's like, you know, everybody loves the quarterback, but 284 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I actually like it because my takeaway is Dalton is 285 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. He understands his role. He can be a mentor. 286 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: You're not paying him much. If Justin Fields had to 287 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: learn from somebody outside of Alex Smith, you could argue 288 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is about as good a role model as 289 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: you could have for a year. And best case scenario, 290 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: Fields comes in just beats him out in training camp. 291 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: He's just a better player, and Andy knows his role. 292 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: He just sits behind him. Here's the other thing, though, 293 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: there are not many general managers that aren't like they're 294 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: a decade plus to get the opportunity to take two 295 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks. I would if me and you would 296 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: have been in there and we ran the Bears, I 297 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: would not have been okay, very like giving Ryan Pace 298 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the power to trade future first round picks to do 299 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: much but the moment Field start plummeting. And this can 300 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,359 Speaker 1: be overrated, but in the Midwest Ohio state, Justin Fields 301 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: the Bear, that area, that region. Think how many Ohio 302 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: State fans just live in the area The Bears. I'd say, 303 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: coming into this draft, of all the big market teams 304 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: had to have the lowest rating of fan confidence. I 305 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: would imagine tonight tomorrow, it's like Jubilatian, we got this 306 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: guy who Colin I think this guy is getting underrated 307 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: as a prospect. He's almost six four, he's got a 308 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: big arm, he can run. I know there are some 309 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: fundamental flaws. These coaches make eight ten, eleven million dollars now, 310 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: they're all offensive coaches. Guy up, you don't think it. 311 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: Andy Reid as Sean McVay would want to work with 312 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: this guy, like ultimately Kyle Shannah and went with Trey 313 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Lance similar big, strong, can run like. These are the 314 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: type guys these coaches want. Sean Payton want to work 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: with now. And the other thing is he's played a 316 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: lot like he should be. I don't want to say 317 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: plug in play. It's a hard transition, but he should. 318 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,239 Speaker 1: He should have the opportunity to start an open competition. 319 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: And if you're a Bears fan, it just breathes the 320 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: life into the franchise. Al Right, football fans, the twenty 321 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: twenty one Draft Around the Corner Fan Duel is hosting 322 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: something cool, a free twenty thousand dollars mock draft contest. 323 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: Put on your GM hat. It's fun. Predict just the 324 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: top ten picks in the draft and you have a 325 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: chance to share twenty thousand bucks in prizes. Easy to play, 326 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: just make your draft picks. Get points for every pick 327 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: you get right. The person with the most points wins 328 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: the top price. And don't worry, if you only nail 329 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: a few, you could still walk away with the piece 330 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: of it. Best part of the contest a hundred percent 331 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: free to enter, just download the fan Dual Fantasy app, 332 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: click on the free to play button, then lock in 333 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: your picks for the twenty twenty one draft. Follow the 334 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: action live on Draft night, Easy peasy. Age and eligibility 335 00:17:52,560 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: restrictions apply well. And also Tarik Cohen comes back. So 336 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: they drafted a running back last year, so they got 337 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: two backs. I like their offensive lines. Okay, it's kind 338 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: of somewhere between, you know, seventeenth and twentieth. It's okay. 339 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's great tight end from Notre Dame. Yeah, not 340 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: bad so to me. If Justin Fields gives you some 341 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: sort of dynamic mobility and Matt Naggie's coaching, let's not 342 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: kid ourselves here. Matt Nagee got Mitch Trubisky to the 343 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: playoffs twice. Yeah, this is a clever play designer. So 344 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: I look at Chicago. It's amazing what a quarterback can do. 345 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: I look at Chicago before this draft that I'm like, 346 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: got it. It's starting to feel hopeless, and tonight I'm like, no, no, no. 347 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: If Tarik Cohne comes back healthy and I get the 348 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: same guy, it's like, now this offense has some juice. 349 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: One thing stands out to me about this quarterback draft, 350 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: and it was awesome. Right, fifty five guys went in 351 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: the top fifteen. The three guys went to perfect spots. 352 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be difficult this season for 353 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to look better than Trey Lance if he 354 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: plays justin fields and Mac Jones and we just you 355 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: know it's New York. We you and I a couple 356 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I was on here the anger there. 357 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you were taking Nope. Obviously Trevor 358 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: goes one, but you chose this guy over these three. 359 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Matt could easily look really good in New England with 360 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: those guys. If Trey Lance is playing, he's looking good 361 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: with Kyle and feels maybe he's just one of those 362 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: like kind of Herbert's where it's just wow, this the 363 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: league screwed up on this guy. He's good, and all 364 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Zach, their team's not any good. I mean, 365 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: we'll see what they do the next couple of days. 366 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: But they don't have many weapons. And even when you 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: draft weapons, it's not every one of them hits the 368 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: ground running. Like it could just be a long season. 369 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: If someone texts me the other day, a rookie quarterback 370 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: in that division against Belichick who's on a mission and 371 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: pissed off Flores who's really good, and Sean McDermott, who's 372 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: just a high level coach, like the division, it's tough, Colin, 373 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: it could just be a long Zach Wilson could go 374 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: on to have a good career. This first year, he 375 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: better be mentally to because it's gonna be a mother Yeah, 376 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean their team's not good. They reset, and also 377 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: what if Sam they got weapons, Like, what if he's 378 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: just solid? So then you got, Wow, Sam's gonna look 379 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: better than Zach more than likely. It's just it could 380 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: be a rough starting spot. And as we know in 381 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: the Northeast, how you start sometimes it's hard to shake that. 382 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: Darnold never could. Well, No, this is why I like 383 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: what Joe Douglas did. I think he looked at it 384 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: because in this draft, corners went earlier than we thought 385 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Corners moved up, tackles kind of moved back. Panasu was 386 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: the first good old lineman taken at seven. So all 387 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're sitting there because Miami, we thought 388 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati could take a tackle. They didn't. And so 389 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, once the Chargers got Slater, the 390 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: first thing I thought is they got back then last 391 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: year at left tackle. They gotta protect this kid because 392 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: they know they went and got you know, they went 393 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: and paid money for Corey Davis at wide receiver, and 394 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: they need a running back later which tomorrow. Don't be 395 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: shocked if they don't get North Carolina's running back at 396 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: the top of the second round. But I really think 397 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas thought a lot about what you just said. 398 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: Darnold's gonna work down in Carolina. Yeah, he's not whoever 399 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: that he's not gonna suck, and you can say I 400 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: mean and by the way, I think Joe Douglas likes him. 401 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: But I really did like the Elijah Vera Tucker move. 402 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: He's a clean player because I think they realize, Joe 403 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Douglas says, listen, we never gave Darnald a chance up front. 404 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: We never gave I'm not going to allow that to happen. 405 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: And this is my issue. The thing that really jumped 406 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: out to me. I like Jamar Chase, I love Jalen Waddle. 407 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: To me, the game and the trenches in this modern 408 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: day game. It's proven now the last several years, you 409 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: can find good wide receivers in the second third round. 410 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: It's easier to play wide receiver than it never is. 411 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: It's harder to find good linemen offense and defense. This 412 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: draft didn't have elite defensive lineman right, but it did 413 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: have a bunch offensive lineman. They're going to be immediate starters. 414 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: The Dolphins, they still have a tackle need they I understand. 415 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Liking Jalen Waddle. Put him with his teammate, him and 416 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: two were good together. I would have gone offensive line there. 417 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: I just would have taken another lineman, build up that 418 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: line and taken an offense. Definitely with Cincinnati, Like, I 419 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: get same thing. The teammate. Your offensive line is terrible 420 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: these teams. But if you Telescoes licking his chop seeing 421 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: this guy fall, like you idiots. I texted him, I'm like, 422 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: because I asked him. I asked him. Within thirty six hours, 423 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I said, would you move up? And he said, Colin, 424 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: patience generally plays in your favor. To me, you move 425 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: up for quarterbacks or what you think, maybe as a 426 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: once in a generation player, but more often than not, 427 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: especially when you're drafting relatively high, if you are patient, 428 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: let what Abby Knight dumb loses more games and smart 429 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: wins like let some of these other people screw it up, right, 430 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: just let them kind of screw and it just the corners. 431 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: I thought those were two good picks. The Denver and 432 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: and Carolina just went with two top corners. Now, one 433 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: thing will be interesting is if Justin Fields becomes, you know, 434 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: a big time player. Both those two teams could have 435 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: taken him right and he went right by him. So 436 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: let's go to Denver. So I was a little surprised 437 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater's a band aid. Drew Locke has lost the confidence 438 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of people in the organization. Weren't you 439 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: a little surprised the Broncos didn't get a dynamic quarterback? 440 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I think sometimes their new general manager comes from Minnesota. 441 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: Once upon a time they drafted Teddy. Anyone that's been 442 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: around with Teddy swears by him. But we have enough 443 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: evidence he's just averaged to below. You could find like, 444 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: why didn't they trade a second round pick for Sam Darnold. 445 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Why didn't they just take Justin Fields like Colin. If 446 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: you met some other dude that it's scattered in the NFL, 447 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: that's better than me. Like, go to them, like, why 448 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: are you tied to the old? You know who cares 449 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: that you around? No one cares anymore. We have evidence 450 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: it's over. Teddy Bridgewater's never thrown for more than fifteen touchdowns. 451 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: John is a scout, Mahomes, Derek Carr, and Herbert in 452 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: your division, I mean to me, I mean I talked 453 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: to Bill Poling about this. He goes, listen, man, once 454 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: we got Peyton manning the rest of our division, they 455 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: were drafting pass rushers. I mean, Brady, if you go 456 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: remember Mario Williams. Buffalo paid a ton for Mario Williams. 457 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: Why to get Tom Brady? You have to look at 458 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: your division. I mean, I just Denver, and I think 459 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: to your point, Matt Naggie with Justin Fields, Trey Lance 460 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: with Shanahan, Urban's got Trevor Lawrence mac Jones to Belichick, 461 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: there's a strong likelihood those four kids flourish and Denver 462 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: looks idiotic in a year from now. Yeah, and they 463 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: clearly don't like Drew Locke. They took him in the 464 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: second round. You didn't draft him in the top ten. 465 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Who cares like to bring in to me? Teddy Bridgewater, 466 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: a band aid who we've seen as a starter. He's 467 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: just not good enough. Like if he has to start 468 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: two or three games like he did the other last 469 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: year with the Saints, or two years ago when when 470 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Breeze hurt his thumb. Yeah, if your team stacked, well, 471 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: you have a flawed roster. Now to me where I 472 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: could understand it, do they end up with Rogers? If 473 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: they do, then I would understand pass on? Do you 474 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: do they think right now that they have a good 475 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: chance with Rogers? The hard part, though, I go back to, like, 476 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: if you're the Packers, Okay, I give you Rogers and 477 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: you give me three ones and a player. Your ones 478 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: are immediately good because you're gonna win with him, so 479 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: one a future one when I give you Rogers. I 480 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: had a bud in the league I was talking to 481 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: before the draft. He said, people underrate the Broncos offensive 482 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: lines now really good and they got skill guys everywhere. 483 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Their problem is a quarterback Drew Lock's a disaster. But 484 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: if you put Rogers on them, their offense is big 485 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: time and Fanjio's a great defensive coordinator, they'd be in 486 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. Find the Packers like, I'm gonna trade 487 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: j Rodgers will just make the playoffs. Then my picks 488 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: are in the twenties? What is good? Does that do me? Right? Okay, 489 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: so let's pivot to this. So Aaron Rodgers apparently has 490 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: three teams San Francisco, Denver, and the Raiders he would 491 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: go to. Those are the three. So let's talk about that. 492 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: So if so, this is the story of the day. Now, 493 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: it was kind of buried in the draft coverage. Roger 494 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: Goodell doesn't not want the network talking Aaron Rodgers during 495 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: the draft, so let's now address that. So these phone 496 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: calls that San Francisco made to Aaron Rodgers and the 497 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Packers took, They're going to take these calls in the 498 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: year regardless of what Aaron does, because of the Jordan 499 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: Love pick and because he's the NFL's biggest salary hit. 500 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: So I look, Denver's fascinating to me. You'd get him 501 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: over in the AFC. You'll probably not only get him 502 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: over to the AFC, but with Mahomes and Herbert, and 503 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's no guarantee he wins the AFC every 504 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: year and becomes a demon and you face him. So 505 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: I look at it and I think to myself, if 506 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: you're Green Bay in Denver, and Denver gives you one 507 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: of their receivers, they're pretty stacked at wide receiver and 508 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: they give you. Let me ask, you're the GM of 509 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay, I give you a receiver. I'd give you 510 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: Judy from last year. So you're just saying my quarterback 511 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: moving forward as Jordan Love. If I'm Green Bay, well 512 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: you drafted him, you better have confidence in it. Well, 513 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: this is where and I get why they don't want 514 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: to trade him to the forty nine ers. But the 515 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: forty nine ers are offered you, Hey, we'll give you 516 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: George Kittle the third pick and next year's two. Like, 517 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: if you like one of these these quarterbacks, you could 518 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: pivot off Jordan Love, start fresh with a tray lance. 519 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: If Kyle Shanahan likes him, he's gonna work in your offense. 520 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: And this gets back to wherever you trade him, it's 521 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna be these future ones. And we see it with 522 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, we see it with Jamal Adams. Those guys 523 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: end up going into playoff teams and those picks end 524 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: up in the twenties, and those guys get picked in 525 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: the top five, like Aaron Rodgers, an elite player, obviously 526 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: the MVP of the league. But you trade him to 527 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: a team, that team immediately becomes good. So you trade 528 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: him to Denver, Like, what what do I want to 529 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: do with pick twenty five the next two years? Right? 530 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: Or whatever? Number ones? And as a team, I can't 531 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 1: give you a three number ones for a thirty eight 532 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: year old quarterback, right, So it's it's a tough spot. 533 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: Who also is gonna want pretty big cash? It's it's 534 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: a slipper. Now he's Aaron Rodgers, but he's gonna be 535 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight this year. That's where I thought I get 536 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: Like the Packers fans would have freaked if you said 537 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: him with the forty nine ers. But you can just say, hey, 538 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: we got Trey Lance who they were gonna take. He's 539 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna be our star young quarterback and maybe you start 540 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Love for a year. Then you can flip him, 541 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: like you do have some options and maybe you ask 542 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: for a player and get a couple other picks that 543 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: number three overall pick, right, I hear they, well they 544 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: don't have any ones. Well, the third overall pick isn't 545 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: that more than two picks in the twenties from the 546 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. We just saw what it took the Niners 547 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: to get the third overall pick. It took twelve and 548 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: two other ones. Like a third overall pick if you 549 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: like a quarterback, is pretty valuable now. In fairness to Gutikins, 550 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot was going on in a short period of time. 551 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: But I trying to make a life change because if 552 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: the decision, if you do trade him tonight, you're basically 553 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: on the clock. You get fired in three years if 554 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: it all disintegrates, right, which easily could happen. It's Rogers 555 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: came out, scores starth on him and in Ferris, You 556 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: and I talked about this earlier today. They did draft Jordan. 557 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: They created this if they had taken Brandon Iu last 558 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: year and they had had the same season, but Aaron 559 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: was happier from the jump. Are they in this predicament 560 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: right now with Rogers? I don't know. I think Jordan 561 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: Love created his anger from the Jump right a year ago. Yeah, 562 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: this is great stuff. All Right, we're gonna wrap it up. 563 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: We got to go to bed, John, this is great. 564 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: Follow us by the way at the Volume Sports on 565 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram, Rate review and subscribe. Appreciate it. John 566 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Night on The Volume.