WEBVTT - Helping my dad untangle his tech, Galaxy A17 & removing people from photos (155, January 3, 2026)

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung launching a budget phone with useful features at a

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<v Speaker 1>tech questions answered. What's going on Rich Demiro And this

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<v Speaker 1>is Rich on Tech. This is the show where I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also the place where I answer your questions about technology.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the tech should be interesting, useful and fun.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's open up those phone lines for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in twenty twenty six. Here we go, Ready

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<v Speaker 1>triple eight Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>rich one O one give me a call. If you

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<v Speaker 1>tv and hit contact Rich on tech dot tv hit contact. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, this is the first show of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. Welcome. If you are listening for the very

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<v Speaker 1>first time. If you're listening for the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty fifth time, well you get a gold star for today. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how many shows we have done. So far right

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<v Speaker 1>here on rich On Tech. I can't believe it either.

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<v Speaker 1>This is year number four. How is that possible? Year

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<v Speaker 1>number four? I remember starting this like it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I really do. I had Bill standing right

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<v Speaker 1>there watching every word I said. And now he'll just

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<v Speaker 1>show up. You know, I can't remember the last time

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<v Speaker 1>he was here. We love you anyway, Bill. We got

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<v Speaker 1>Bobo here, we got me, we got Kim on the phones.

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<v Speaker 1>And I call this the shoulder season in technology. We

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<v Speaker 1>are just moments away from CS in Las Vegas, kicks

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<v Speaker 1>off this weekend. And if you're not sure what that is,

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<v Speaker 1>CS used to stand for Consumer Electronics Show. It does

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<v Speaker 1>not stand for that anymore. It is now just CES

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<v Speaker 1>because it's way bigger than just gadgets, because there is

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<v Speaker 1>everything on display. You know, this was the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the DVD player, the TVO, the flat screen TV. All

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff got it started at CES when it was

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<v Speaker 1>the Consumer Electronics Show. Now it is just CS because

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<v Speaker 1>we have health tech, AI, wearables, car tech, data security,

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<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of stuff that's getting not only an

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<v Speaker 1>Internet connection this year, but also AI. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my biggest weeks of the year. I always love

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<v Speaker 1>bringing back the information to you that I find the coolest,

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdest, the most useful things that I see out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been covering that show for more than fifteen years now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember, yes, my very first CS. I was

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<v Speaker 1>with CNET back in the day, and I remember staying

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<v Speaker 1>at the Palms Hotel for eleven days straight. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that was a marathon. I was a lot younger back then.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll be there for the whole week endless rows

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<v Speaker 1>of exhibitors all across the convention center. Basically every hotel

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<v Speaker 1>on the strip also has some sort of exhibitor there

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<v Speaker 1>on display. There's no way to see it all, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do my best. And the cool thing is you

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<v Speaker 1>get to see every single person you've ever met in

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<v Speaker 1>the tech world, and the people you email with on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, walking and talking, and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of catch up with them as well. So stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot coming from seats next week. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for that. We've got a lot of news on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today. But I have to tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>my trip back to New Jersey. My kids hit the

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<v Speaker 1>vacation lottery because it snowed, not just not once, but

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<v Speaker 1>twice while we were there. And yes, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>could see snow in California, but we don't go to

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains that much, so for my kids this was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge deal. My kid literally ran outside in his

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas and started throwing snowballs. It was so cute. It

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of waking up back in the day growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in New Jersey checking the window and hoping for

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<v Speaker 1>a snow day because that was the best. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to school, and back then they would

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<v Speaker 1>literally sound this loud alarm. I don't know how they did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a foghorn or something, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you knew there was no school. And then you go outside,

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<v Speaker 1>you play, you know, shovel your neighbor's sidewalks for some

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<v Speaker 1>extra money. It was great. I did stay at my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's house in New Jersey, and I didn't expect to

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<v Speaker 1>be the geek squad as much as I was, But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the geek squad for my dad. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about this is that every time I go

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<v Speaker 1>home or just being like another person's home, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>what the average person deals with when it comes to technology. So,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, he had switched his Internet to T Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>five g. He switched all of his Internet and his

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<v Speaker 1>phones to T Mobile without asking me. He was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave me a great deal. I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So of course I ran a speed test to see

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<v Speaker 1>how that was functioning, and I was very impressed. He

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<v Speaker 1>got like a pretty good speed there. You place this

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not familiar, you place this router near a window.

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<v Speaker 1>It pulls in a cellular signal and turns it into

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi for the house. My friend gave me this

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<v Speaker 1>great analogy. It's almost like a hose. The hose is

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet connection, and then the sprinkler is the router

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of sprinkles the signal throughout the house. Problem

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<v Speaker 1>was that signal did not reach everywhere, so as TV

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<v Speaker 1>kept buffering, and he said, Rich, I'm dealing with this

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<v Speaker 1>every single night. The TV just buffers. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>anticipated this idea, and so I brought my old euro system.

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<v Speaker 1>EUO is a Wi Fi mesh Wi Fi system. You

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<v Speaker 1>put a bunch of these little leafs around the house

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<v Speaker 1>and they all work together to give you a nice

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<v Speaker 1>blanket of Internet. Imagine different sprinklers all over your lawn,

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<v Speaker 1>right instead of just one sprinkler in the middle, so

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<v Speaker 1>I set it up. It took just a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything was faster and more reliable instantly. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing is he used to have Euro before he

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<v Speaker 1>switched to T Mobile, so I just reused his old

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi network name so all his devices would reconnect automatically,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds very simple, but he kept saying to me Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand I canceled that internet. How do I

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<v Speaker 1>have it back? I don't have that anymore. And that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sums up how confusing this stuff can be

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't understand that the pipe is different from

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<v Speaker 1>the Wi Fi signal. Right, even though it is confusing,

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<v Speaker 1>because T Mobile and Spectrum and AT and T they

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<v Speaker 1>all name their WiFi after the connection, which you can

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<v Speaker 1>make that any name you want, so I always come

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<v Speaker 1>up with something really fun. So next up was the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>He was using an LGTV with the built in software,

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<v Speaker 1>which I tried for like one second and I hated

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<v Speaker 1>it instantly. Now, don't write me angry letters. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have an LGTV and you love the webOS stuff, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>if it works for you, that's great. For me, it

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<v Speaker 1>did not, and I asked him. I said, Dad, you

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<v Speaker 1>like this remote? Do you like how it waves around

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<v Speaker 1>like a pointer on the screen. He goes, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate it. I thought that's the only thing I could have,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like no, So I ordered him a

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<v Speaker 1>fire TV stick. It arrived the next day. I plugged

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<v Speaker 1>it in. I cleaned up all the cables behind the

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<v Speaker 1>TV because he had like everything that used to be

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<v Speaker 1>plugged in still there but not plugged in. Put it

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<v Speaker 1>all into the soundbar and I said, Okay, here's your

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<v Speaker 1>new remote. Just use this. And he loved. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, this is so much easier. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so just by swapping out the streaming stick that you

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<v Speaker 1>have or the streaming platform that you have on your

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<v Speaker 1>smart TV, you can have an entirely different experience with

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact device. And just in that twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours that I switched this all over, everything was just

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<v Speaker 1>so much better. But the real headache was his logins

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<v Speaker 1>and passwords. Hey Dad, I got a log into your Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your account? Oh, I have no idea. Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>about your password? No, no idea. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>I had Netflix. I mean it's just on there. Okay, Dad, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you must pay for it. Somehow, turns out it was

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<v Speaker 1>included with his T mobile subscription. So I said, remember

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<v Speaker 1>that app we set you up with Bitwarden. Let's figure

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<v Speaker 1>that out again. So I went on his computer and

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<v Speaker 1>this is so wild. He had Bitwarden, Apple passwords, and

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<v Speaker 1>Google passwords all competing for his attention when I would

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<v Speaker 1>click one of the logins screens, so they'd all pop

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<v Speaker 1>up at the same time. Now that is confusing, even

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<v Speaker 1>for me who's sitting there going okay, these all popping

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<v Speaker 1>up at the same time. So I had to go in,

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<v Speaker 1>go into the settings and cancel them out and just

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<v Speaker 1>keep one, which was Bitworten, which I really like because

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<v Speaker 1>it's free in a cross platform. Google was the trickiest,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. It kept popping up for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time, even after I turned it off, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to really do some little things on Chrome to

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<v Speaker 1>get it to stop doing that. So Google, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>make it a little easier for us. But I got

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<v Speaker 1>it all figured out. We went through all of his

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<v Speaker 1>main logins and I said, all right, Dad, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to fix these. We've got to clean them up. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't use the same words over and over and then

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<v Speaker 1>when you show someone that doesn't use a password manager

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<v Speaker 1>the wild passwords that it generates, they get very intimidated.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand that because everyone's like, well, I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to remember that. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember it because your password manager will remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got that all figured out. We went through

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<v Speaker 1>the main passwords, we consolidated all of it, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got most of it working. And it's been about I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, a week and a half since I've been

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<v Speaker 1>not there, so I have not gotten that phone call

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<v Speaker 1>yet that says, hey, I I can't do this. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't access something I used to be able to access.

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<v Speaker 1>So clearly things are working. It's better. The sound is improved,

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<v Speaker 1>the log just everything. So what is my takeaway here?

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you this because this stuff is not always easy,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're not a digital native, especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand basic concepts. Hey click that icon? What's an icon?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Hey? Open that program? What's that program? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I do it on my phone? Do I do on

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<v Speaker 1>my computer? These are things that you know, I take

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<v Speaker 1>for granted because I've been covering this stuff forever. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk to regular people, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them call this show. I realize that this stuff is complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>even for people like me. So I tell you this

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<v Speaker 1>because I want you to relax. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath. I want you to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to understand this stuff instantly. It may

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<v Speaker 1>not come naturally, but you can figure it out if

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<v Speaker 1>you take the time and you get organized from the start.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you do things, just take that extra minute

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<v Speaker 1>to create a strong password, Take the extra minute to

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<v Speaker 1>save that password, Take the extra minute to turn on

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<v Speaker 1>two factor authentication. Write things down, Write down your process,

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<v Speaker 1>keep notes. I will tell you you will not remember

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff later off the top of your head. You

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<v Speaker 1>just won't. Like for instance, I set up bitwarden with

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<v Speaker 1>a passcode on his computer. He said, oh, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>pass code? And I instantly forgot about it. I was like, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>which one was it? And of course it took me

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to remember, but it was like something that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought i'd remember instantly. No, you won't. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a new year, perfect time to go through clean up

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<v Speaker 1>the apps that you use. Go ahead, delete stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you're no longer using. Look at the services that you have,

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<v Speaker 1>the subscriptions, go through, cancel, delete, upgrade, whatever you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do, downgrade, check out the tech you're using, and

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<v Speaker 1>get it all up and running. I did that over

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<v Speaker 1>the past week. I've got my systems in place and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels so much better. Cleaning up your tech world

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<v Speaker 1>is worth it. You will breathe a sigh of relief,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes it can be done. And no, you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>not going to break anything, so enjoy all right eight

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike in Mankato Minnesota. You're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Hey, Rich, it's Mike in Minnesota. Hey. So, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a nept geary.

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<v Speaker 3>By cable modem router that I purchased at a new Egg.

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<v Speaker 2>And it says too because I.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot the uh the user or the password for

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<v Speaker 3>the admin.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I don't know because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm visually impaired and I can't. I use a screen

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<v Speaker 3>it called Josh the Windows. It's a screenerader, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can't read the label on the because it says to

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<v Speaker 3>enter the It says to enter the uh the the

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<v Speaker 3>password three times wrong when I go to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>user dot log in, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do that and then it says to enter

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<v Speaker 2>the serial number. But I can't read the label on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the router.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here, here's an easier way to do this. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a tiny hole on the back of the router

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<v Speaker 1>that you can press, uh press a paper up into

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<v Speaker 1>and that will reset it to factory. And then once

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to reset to factory, that way, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to just go onto your computer and type

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<v Speaker 1>in it. It's typically one nine to eight dot one

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<v Speaker 1>six two dot one dot one or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once once you go there, it should give

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<v Speaker 1>you the ability to get back into this router. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, if you do that, it's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the factory information from the that's printed on the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the router. Is that what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, when I go, because when I go and puts.

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<v Speaker 3>The forgot password button, it says to It says to

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<v Speaker 3>enter the wrong password three times when I'm on uh

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<v Speaker 3>router dot log in dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what they use.

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<v Speaker 3>It says that, Yeah, and then it says, enter the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cereal number of your product. But I can't read the

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<v Speaker 2>serial number.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it scratched out?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm visually impaired, so I can't. My eyes don't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well why don't you do this? Have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>of the app be my Eyes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, why don't you just use that to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that can read the number for you off

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that would work?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think that would work. Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is an app that basically, you know, if you're familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with it, you download it. It's it works two ways. Visually,

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<v Speaker 1>impaired download it to their phone and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a FaceTime with someone, and so they can when

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<v Speaker 1>they need help seeing something, they can say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let me reach out, and then me on the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>who can see I can log onto the app and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me help this person. I look at whatever's on

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<v Speaker 1>my screen. I can read it out or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you try that? Yeah and do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love this show. This thing is so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because because what's that bit bitwarden you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bitwarden. So bitwarden is the password manager that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I like it is because it's free

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<v Speaker 1>and it's open source, so you can you can download

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<v Speaker 1>it to your computer, you can download your phone, you

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<v Speaker 1>can download your iPad, and it's going to work the

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<v Speaker 1>same way across all those and they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>charge you for it either. Now there is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of free apps have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>paid level, you know, that you can step up to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I use this. I've been using it for the past,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eight months or whatever when I switched over,

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<v Speaker 1>and it works great, and I haven't paid a dime.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pay them because I love it so

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<v Speaker 1>much and I was paying sixty dollars a year for

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<v Speaker 1>my old one, right right, But Mike, what what station

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<v Speaker 1>do you listen on over there?

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<v Speaker 4>KA way out of Colorado?

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome? All right, Well, thanks for thanks for the call today,

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<v Speaker 1>and keep me posted. Let me know if you figure

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<v Speaker 1>this out.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will, all rights, have a great one, all right? Eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>more calls after the break. CS, like I mentioned, is

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<v Speaker 1>happening next week in Las Vegas, but already some companies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole name of the game is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to capture the attention of the journalists that go to

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<v Speaker 1>CS or the media in general. So some companies will

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put out a couple of little announcements before

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<v Speaker 1>the actual event happens so that they can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>capture this slow time of news to you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>the headline. So a couple things trickled out this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, LG is going to make a gallery TV.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're familiar with Samsung, they've got that frame

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<v Speaker 1>TV that they've been doing forever. Well, LG is now

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<v Speaker 1>unveiling a new art TV at CES twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the LG Gallery TV. The idea is that

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<v Speaker 1>your TV doubles as artwork when you're not using it,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's got a screen that looks more like art. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you that, you know, Samsung does this

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<v Speaker 1>the frame I saw at Costco yesterday. They all all

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<v Speaker 1>the TV makers have some sort of like ambient art.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you truly want it to look like art

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<v Speaker 1>when it's not in use, obviously you need a certain

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<v Speaker 1>screen that is matt and not reflective and it just

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<v Speaker 1>looks not, you know, like super bright. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>do this, by the way, if you have a fire

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<v Speaker 1>TV stick, there's an ambient mode on it and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can use that. It's kind of like the screen

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<v Speaker 1>saver on your TV, except it just looks much more

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<v Speaker 1>like art. So the lighting of the TV sort of

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<v Speaker 1>changes to make it blend in with the room, so

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't look like this big bright screen. It almost

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<v Speaker 1>like if you just walked into that room, you'd say, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is that a piece of art on the wall. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a TV. So it's very popular. People love these

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<v Speaker 1>that have them and so of course that will be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I'm checking out the LG Gallery

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<v Speaker 1>TV eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four two four one zero one. More of your

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<v Speaker 1>calls coming up on rich On Tech right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich On Tech. Let's go to Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>and Tampa.

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<v Speaker 4>You're on with rich Hey, how you doing today, man?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well? What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>First off?

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<v Speaker 4>I love your musical selection choice you go from you

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<v Speaker 4>go from Little Darling By. I think it's the Beatles, Brad.

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<v Speaker 5>What you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I pick everything myself, Jamie, So yes, these are these

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<v Speaker 1>are There is a theme today. The theme is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a rebirth of fresh you know, new Year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to keep with the New Year's stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I have not heard one person, not one

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<v Speaker 1>person talk about resolutions, not even in the news nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>Like nobody talks about resolutions anymore, because I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>all decided that nobody keeps them anyway. So what can

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<v Speaker 1>I what can I help you with? Today?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, I got two questions. First of all, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to thank you for your advice. You gave me what

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<v Speaker 4>I called you just think was either last year the

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<v Speaker 4>year before last, asking about how to cut my swimming

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<v Speaker 4>bill because man, I was paying where the freaking sun

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<v Speaker 4>didn't for three and television, and you said, hey, getnintenna.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I got one, and I got the amplifier for

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<v Speaker 4>it I bought. I bought a separate amplifier because the

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<v Speaker 4>one that they can be intended intendant come with team

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<v Speaker 4>to be basically just cheap crap. Anyway, I bought a

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<v Speaker 4>better amplifier for it, and I love it for the

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<v Speaker 4>most part. But I want to know how do I

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<v Speaker 4>get I mean, is there a way? Because there's that

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<v Speaker 4>one channel and it just happen to be the local

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<v Speaker 4>CBS Facilia for some.

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<v Speaker 1>Reason, CBS which one CBS CBS.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that you know that there is that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have and for some of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot get it. I live near the towers. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like fifteen miles from the broadcast towers. I get everything

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<v Speaker 4>else except that one, and I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Have to go.

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<v Speaker 4>And I also went out too. I'm visually impaired just

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<v Speaker 4>as Mike is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it when I saw a blank community reach

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<v Speaker 4>out to your show.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Oh, yeah, me too. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about those meta glasses last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's eye opening, no pun intended. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate I hate that I just said that, but it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's really been interesting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how technology is used and how it is opening up

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<v Speaker 1>the world for people of all different abilities. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>my solution for you. Why not just download their free

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<v Speaker 1>streaming app.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's well, okay, okay, the I have them is

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<v Speaker 4>the app. It's good for new.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, but not programming.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I want to watch stay yes, yes, I yep.

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<v Speaker 2>That can that can be a little bit of a okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Luckily, the only thing I really watched it on TVs

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<v Speaker 4>is the Price is right?

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<v Speaker 1>You and my kids they watched it every day. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>well okay, but here here's a couple of things. So

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<v Speaker 1>have you you've tried putting the antenna in different locations

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<v Speaker 1>of your home?

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<v Speaker 4>That I tried, And it's funny how I have to

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<v Speaker 4>do it. I literally have to stand on a stool

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<v Speaker 4>because I put four.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful, Jamie, I don't want you fallen off a

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<v Speaker 1>stool to get to prices right, Well, I tried listen.

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<v Speaker 4>The funny thing is my girlfriend saw me up there

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<v Speaker 4>one day says, oh my god, my boyfriend got.

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<v Speaker 7>To kill hmself.

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<v Speaker 1>All the name of Drew Carey. Now I'm just kidding, right, Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I think you should do. Have you checked

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<v Speaker 1>out an app called Antenna Point that well, I you

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<v Speaker 1>may have to have someone help you, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it does. Is it you put in your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basically based on where your phone is, it will show

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<v Speaker 1>you where to point your antenna to get the reception

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<v Speaker 1>of the channel that you want. So if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at this thing, and I've done this in my home,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most of the channels come from a certain

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<v Speaker 1>tower right like here in where I live. They all

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<v Speaker 1>come from the same mountain pretty much in your area.

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<v Speaker 1>That may be the same case, but you won't know

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<v Speaker 1>until you open up this app and look. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would get that app. It's called Antenna Point. It comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Antenna's Direct and you basically can look at that

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<v Speaker 1>and see where this antenna needs to be aimed for

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<v Speaker 1>the maximum reception. And it may be that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you change it to one side, it's going to get CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>You change it to the other. It's not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, so you have to you know, the whole

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.680
<v Speaker 1>antenna thing is not a perfect system. Let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just not another thing. Rich I keep hearing about,

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<v Speaker 4>is this whole next in TV?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>My concern is because I keep hearing that they have

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<v Speaker 4>all these APSP three boxes you can get. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to get a new TV down the road anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, do they make accessible like ATSD three boxes?

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<v Speaker 4>Like because my Rowcup TV it's talked, So that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I know what I'm doing, right, But I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to have to pay money through the nose for a

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 4>box that I need somebody here to help me use.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go to watch TV independently without needing

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<v Speaker 4>to have my goal friend whoever in the house with

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<v Speaker 4>me be like, Hey, okay, Jamie, you got to click

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<v Speaker 4>on this thing and do this thing. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very impatient with stuff that is mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>The preciety, right, Oh, I totally get that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say because the next gen TV stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>so new, and by the way, I'd said, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>at CS next week They're going to have this on

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>display like they always do. This has taken a lot

0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>longer to mature than I think these broadcast companies wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the take up is not as high

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<v Speaker 1>because people, you know, I don't know if you remember,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>we all went through that digital transition with the channels,

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>so that was a big thing, and now they want

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>people to buy a different box to go to this

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>next gen TV, which is great and it has a

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of cool features. I mean, they've got all these

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>enhanced features. It's almost like a mix of streaming and

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>over the air, right like it brings interactive features to

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>standard broadcast channels. And I'm sure the TV companies love

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it because I bet I just have a feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>they probably get a lot more analytics from the people

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that tune in, so like for things like ratings and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably really good. They can also deliver data alongside

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the programming and that kind of stuff. But I would

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>say these boxes are very immature, and so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they have all those accessibility features. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I will definitely ask when I'm there and

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<v Speaker 1>at CES and meet with these folks and see where

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<v Speaker 1>they're at with accessibility. But Jamie in the meantime, I

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 1>would definitely check out, you know, see if you can

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>get that antenna app again, it's called Antenna Point. It's

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>available for iOS and Android. See if that helps you

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>figure out if you can even receive the CBS channel

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>in your area, like you may not even Let's say

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you point your antenna towards the mountain where it says

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>you still may not get it. I mean, and you

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>know antenna signals are you know, they can be finicky.

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<v Speaker 1>So great question. Thanks for the call, Really appreciate it,

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Jamie listening in Tampa, and thanks so much today. It's

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>just so nice to hear from folks all over the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Here Debora rights in listening on the podcast. Hey, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a few old printed wedding photos four by six

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<v Speaker 1>five x seven. I'd love to remove just my ex

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>from them. I've tried some free editing software. The trials

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>are super limited, and I don't want to sign up

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 1>or pay for anything. That's the best question. I don't

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>want to pay for anything or sign up for anything,

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>but I still want to be able to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, Deborah. The tricky part is he has

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>his hand around the arm of the person next to him,

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>so when I remove him, it looks like her arm

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>is cut off. I know there's a way to use

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>layers and patch in some skin area, but that's way

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>too complicated for me. Do you know if a simple

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>website or company that can handle this. Thanks for any advice.

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm always listening to you. You're everywhere, Deborah. Thank you.

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>The good news is you do not need to pay

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a dime to do this. You will not believe how

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>easy this is to do with Google's Gemini AI Gemini

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>dot Google dot com.

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 8>It is free.

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It will do an amazing job with this. I showed

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>my wife yesterday. I was doing a picture for the newsletter.

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, ah, I don't want to have you in

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>this picture, so watch me remove you. And she goes,

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>wait what And it was like watching like Back to

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the Future, where it's just like you just get a

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>race from the picture instantly. Again, So scan your photo.

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You can use the free Google Photo Scan app. It's quick,

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it'll remove Claire. Then go to Gemini on the web

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>or on the app, upload the photo and all you

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>have to do is type something in like remove the man,

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>remove this guy that crossed me, remove this X that

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I hate now, I'm just kidding. Google may respond with

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that remove the guy with his hand on her arm,

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>or you can just say remove the guy from the picture.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is. Try it. It will do it so easily,

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not kidding. You will even recreate whatever parts

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of the body that it's covering that you know gets erased.

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's pretty pretty amazing. So try that, Deborah,

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening. Really appreciate the kind words. Super super simple.

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>You will not believe. You know, you've probably heard me

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about this Google Nano Banana that is just a

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>nice funny name for Gemini, which is okay, let me

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>start at the beginning. So you've got different flavors of

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>AI out there. You've got Chat GBT that's an AI,

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>You've got Gemini, which is an AI that's from Google,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and then nano Banana pro is just a fancy way

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of referring to the image editing technology that is built

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>into Google Gemini AI. And the way they got that name,

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even it wasn't even supposed to be named that. Basically,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>an engineer just put that in as like a placeholder

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>when they were coming up with something with this. They

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>were going to launch this and they said, oh this

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>is call it Nano Banana, and it stuck and people

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>started loving it. They love the name and it's really

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>given branding to this image generator and photo editor. So

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>if you have not tried this, if you have ever

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>used photoshop in your entire life and you've been like, oh,

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like okay, here's a great example. I have had this

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>dream of changing signs. You know, when you see a

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>street sign or a sign on the side of the road,

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>or an exit sign, whatever you see a sign. I

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>always love in my head thinking how silly those signs

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>would be if they said something silly, right, almost like

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that La movie What was it? What was the one

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>with Steve Martin La Story? Yeah, where like the signs

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>on the freeway had like funny things that they said

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to him, Like I've always thought that was really interesting.

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Now you have to match the font, you gotta match

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>the background, you gotta match everything. I tried this in

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Nano Banana yesterday. I just went through probably one hundred

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>signs in my photo album and just changed them all

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to silly stuff just for my own laughter. And you

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>can do this now, so try it. Gemini dot Google

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>dot com put a photo in there, ask to edit

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>super super simple. By the way, not to be outdone,

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>chatch Ebt also upgraded their image generation tool a couple

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, and it's also gotten very good, So

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't go wrong with either of these. I understand

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>it's impacting jobs, it's impacting all these people that learned photoshop,

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, I didn't invent it. This is just

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>how we're moving forward, and it's wild. So you got

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>to try this stuff. Eighty eight Rich one O one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four to one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. More rich on Tech coming your way right

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<v Speaker 1>after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>here hanging out with you, talking technology. Eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Let's let's go to Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>in San Dimas. Jamie, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, how's it going, Rich?

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>It is going fantastic. How are you doing on this

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>new year?

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm glad I finally got through to you because this

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 6>has been an ongoing problem that I'm hoping Apple has

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 6>got a solution for, but maybe not. So I have

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 6>an iPhone twelve soon to upgrade through A fifteen. But

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 6>I constantly when I make a phone call, if I

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 6>try to click out of the phone or something like that,

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 6>I end up hitting somebody else in my favorite contact

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 6>list and make another phone call. Is there any way

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 6>to set it up to where when a call ends,

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 6>that screen closes automatically.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a way to have that screen close.

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But what I do is and this is the thing

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people just forget to do. But

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just press the lock button on the side.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 9>I know that.

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 6>My son tells me that all the time. Just turn

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 6>the phone.

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I yell at my mom. I don't yell.

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm very nice. But there's certain people that like to

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>leave their screen on all the time, and they put

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it in their pocket or their purse with the screen on,

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and then they say, oh, my app's moved around, or

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>my home screen got rearranged, or I called someone. It's

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>all because the phone is still on. So there's really

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, so when you're talking you dial a person.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's say you dial someone right and then that end screen.

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna dial my wife real quick. She'll

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>probably call me back and be like, what's happening? Uh okay,

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>So I press end and then you're okay, it ends,

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and then it goes right to that favorite screen exactly. Yeah.

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 6>And I have a tendency when I'm trying to hit

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 6>and if it doesn't end right away, right my fingers

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 6>on there is in the process of trying to hit

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 6>end again and then I'm back to the favorite.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Right and I and I've done that. I've done that

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>where I dial someone else or you know what happens

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you dial someone and it like hangs up for

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>some reason really quickly, and I'm like, wait what and

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I press something and it immediately dials the next person.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 4>So exactly.

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean this is definitely an issue. I mean

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really Yeah, there's there's not really a way to

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>do that.

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't think there's I just have to get into

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 6>muscle memory of turning off the phone.

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I mean, that's really that's that's the best

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>way to do with the muscle memory. Now I'm gonna

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>run through a couple other ways just to kind of

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>set up your phone if this is always happening to you.

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So number one, you know, because butt dialing is a

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.959
<v Speaker 1>is a problem. People do it all the time. I mean,

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just here we are in twenty twenty six

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and we're still it's a It's like a problem that's

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>been you know, fifteen years old. So Number one, you

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>have to get into the habit of when you're done

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>with your phone, just press that lock button on the

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>side of it, the power button, whatever it does to

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>lock your phone. That's it. So that's number one. Some

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>people set their phones up. You have Android, you could

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like double tap the screen to lock it. Whatever you do,

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>just turn it off. That's number one. A couple other

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>ways to make it on the iPhones that you don't

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>misdial someone by accident. You can disable raise to wake,

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>So if you you know, when you raise your iPhone,

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>it kind of on. It doesn't unlock it, but it

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>will wake it up. And when your phone's in a

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>wake up state, it's easier to unlock, and it's easier

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>for the face i D to work. So you can

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>go into settings and turn it off if you want

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be in control. So you go to

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>settings and then display and brightness, and there's an option

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 1>for raise to wake turn it off. The other thing

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you do. By the way, Jamie is turned the auto

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>lock to like thirty seconds instead of a couple of minutes.

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I have mine on five minutes. Autolock is how long

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>your phone automatically locks, and I always recommend, by the way,

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>keeping that to a lower number in general because of

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>security reasons. You don't want someone to come over and

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>grab your phone and it's on lock for five minutes.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>That would be a privacy nightmare, all right, So that's

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>number two. Then you've got tap to wake, so in accessibility,

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you can go into settings Accessibility and then touch and

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a tap to wake, so it says tap or

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>swipe to wake. You can turn that off so that'll

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>make your phone not wake up as much. And then

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>if you have a passcode, you can let's see, well,

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously you should set a passcode. But the other one,

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the other one that you may not know about, is

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in settings under face ID and passcode. Let's see where

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that is. That's going to ask for your passcode, So

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>put that in. And then there's an op shin that

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>says return missed calls. And see if you go in

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>here it says allow access while locked. There's a whole

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>bunch of things that your phone can actually do when

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it's locked if you have these turned on, and one

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of them is return miss calls. So if you're always

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>if you have those miss calls on your lock screen

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and you put your phone in your pocket or your

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>jim bag or you're pressing your phone and your screen

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>touches your finger touches one of those missed calls, it

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>will dial that number. So even if your phone is locked,

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>because you know, Apple is trying to make things easier

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>for you, so you can go in and turn that

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>off so that you know, now, I hate to be

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 1>like a kind of like look into the dark side

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>of things, but there's always, you know, there's a reason

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>why you might want to keep that on. Let's say

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't want to. It gets too tough.

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I run a lot, and so I'm always thinking if

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm just left dead in a ditch somewhere, if someone

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>has to like pick up my phone and like dial

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>a number from it to like call my loved ones.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know why I think that way,

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's like good, you know, it's something you kind

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of have to think about sometimes. But anyway, so I

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>always think about that, like if someone found me, like

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>when I go running like a foreign city, I'm like,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>if someone found me in this, let's say in Tokyo,

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>right in Japan, someone found me here on a run,

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Like literally, what would they do? They'd have to like

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>put my picture on TV and be like who is

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>this guy?

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm always like, Okay, I have to put my

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>my ID in my pocket because I need something that

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>like they can go through my pocket and be like,

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>all right, we found this guy. I mean, it's sad

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of weird to think that way, but

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>that's how my brain works. So anyway, if you find

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>me running, just look at my pocket, because yes, my

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>ID will be in there, and you'll be able to

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 1>tell who I am now getting in touch with someone

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>on that D I don't know how that would work

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>where they got to like go to the embassy and

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, can you look up the phone number

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>for this guy?

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>These are things I never want to find out, but

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like things I think about. Eight to eight rich

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<v Speaker 1>DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. Welcome to another year.

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another year of this show. It has been

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>quite the ride. It's been so much fun to do this,

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>coming in every weekend, talking with you, going over the

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>news of the week. My favorite thing though is really,

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, anyone can tell you the news in the

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>tech world, but my favorite thing is when I find

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the little tidbits that I tell you that are interesting

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and useful and helpful. And we've had a bunch of

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>them over the years, so that is really what keeps

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>me going. And of course the feedback when I tell you,

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>when I tell you I can do email for an

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>unlimited amount of time, that is not a joke. It

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is not a joke. I will send I will, I

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>will look at my email as soon as I do

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>a show, as soon as I do a newsletter, as

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>soon as I do a TV segment. The emails come in,

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and then I reply to those emails as much as

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I can, and more come in. But I love it

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>because you know, this would not be anything if it

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for you. So thank you for that, and I

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. I'm honored that you trust what I say

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and you like my recommendations. It is not lost on

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>me in any way. So I was saying that some

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>of this technology for thank you Bobo, Thank you Bobo.

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 5>Some of this.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Technology they're trying to get ahead of at CS. One

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of them is pretty interesting. We've actually talked to Clicks.

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>They're the company that makes those physical keyboard cases. They

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>just unveiled their first phone and it kind of looks

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 1>like where BlackBerry left off. So it's called the Clicks Communicator,

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>And if you go to their website Clicks dot tech,

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this thing looks like a BlackBerry and it's

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>got a screen. Let's see the specs here. It runs Android.

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So the idea is that this is your second phone.

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So people that are juggling like a work and personal device,

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you can have this secondary device that's just focused on messaging,

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>email and getting things done. So it's got software that

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you can have you know, Gmail on there, WhatsApp, Slack, Telegram,

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>in a message hub. It's got this signal light on

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the side that glows different colors. Remember those Remember when

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>phones used to have a physical light like an led

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>on them that would light up when you had a

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>message that was the best. No, no phone has it

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>anymore as far as I know, So VIPs can have

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a different color than your group chat. It's got a

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>real physical keyboard so you can type faster, and you

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>can also scroll. So there's a little let's see, is

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>there a little scroll wheel on the side. No, I

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can't see the left side of

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>this thing, but maybe there's a scroll wheel. Let's see

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>what else. So the hardware has things that people I mean,

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>this is just wild. They put a headphone jack, micro

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>SD card, physical SIM plus E SIM tactical tactile tactical

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>tactile kill switch, so you can map that to airplane

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>mode or notifications whatever you want. Kind of like kind

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of like the button on the the action button on

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone, but it's actually a real switch. It's got

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Android sixteen, five years of security update, four thousand million battery,

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>wireless charging, fifty megapixel main camera. I'm guessing the camera

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the sore spot here, but you're

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>not getting this for the camera.

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of intrigued. I'm really intrigued. Five hundred dollars.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You can get that price down to three ninety nine,

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and if you reserve it now, you can put two

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars down to reserve it for three ninety nine.

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I know it's confusing, so if you don't do anything,

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pay five hundred, but if you reserve it

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>for two hundred dollars, you'll pay four hundred. Shipping expected

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>later this year, I don't know. Kind of interesting. Check

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>it out clicks dot Tech. This will be at CS

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of course. I don't know. I've kind of gotten over

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the physical buttons on my phone, so I don't know

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>if I need this, but I think that they definitely

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>are coming out the product that people that have a

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>work phone and a personal phone could enjoy, Cause if

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you just want to throw away your work phone when

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>you get done with work and you don't want to

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>deal with all the emails that come in and the

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 1>messages and things like that. You just get this phone,

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>put all your work stuff on it, and then you know,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>hide it under a pillow when you get home, but

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>it's still there for when you need it. So anyway,

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of a neat idea. Clicks dot tech. Let's go

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to let's go to Brian line for Brian in uh

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>oh Claire with constant.

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 8>You're on with Rich, Hey, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 8>Hopefully quick question here. I think I know the answer,

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 8>but uh, you know, over the holidays, usually get an

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 8>Amazon gift card and I'm not a huge online chopper,

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 8>so I usually use that to purchase my TurboTax for

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 8>the for the year. Sure, and I went to do

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 8>that this year, and I was about to download it

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 8>when I realized it's kind of in fine print there

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 8>that it says now it's only for Windows eleven and newer,

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 8>and I'm I'm running Windows ten on my on my

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 8>HP Pavilion X three sixty. They do offer an online option,

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 8>and I kind of poked around in there and I

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 8>thought it was a little bit cumbersome. I guess a

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 8>couple questions if if I were to download it on

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 8>Windows ten, woul would nothing happen? Or would it just

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 8>be a security risk? Or is there kind of a

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 8>workaround that I'd still be able to use it on

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 8>my the desktop or a downloaded version on my on

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 8>my HP pavilion.

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, great question. Actually, I think someone emailed me

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>this question late last year and said, hey, for the

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>next upcoming year, you know you're not gonna be able

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to run TurboTax on Windows ten. And so yeah, the

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>company has said that the TurboTax desktop program twenty twenty

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 1>five will require Windows eleven because there's no more. Now,

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the interesting thing. They say this because of

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>security reasons, right, because Windows ten is no longer actively supported.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing is it is sort of actively

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>supported by Microsoft for security updates. But I think the

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 1>problem is they can't guarantee that everyone has those updates.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure what the reasoning is, like why

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>they said you can't do this anymore. I think it's

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just because they want to make a blanket. You know, Okay,

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we know Windows ten is not supported in a big

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>way anymore. So we're just going to move forward with

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Windows eleven. So that is the company line. What they're

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>saying is this software will not run on ten. So

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and they did say that, you know, security was the

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>main reason. So what are your options now? Is there

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>some sort of hack or work around. I'm sure there is,

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know of that hack, nor can I

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>recommend that because you're talking about your taxes, you're talking

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>about your personal information, talking about you know, the most

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>personal and private and secure information you're working with as

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a person. So I can't really say like, oh yeah,

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I just do this and and get around that. So

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I think your best option is if you you know,

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you can upgrade your computer Windows eleven if that supports it.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't, then of course, or if you don't

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>want to, that's a whole nother thing. But why do

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>you not want to use the online thing? And I

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people like this desktop software. Is

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it just because it's offline? Like, what's the reason for that.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 8>I was poking around a little bit yesterday and it

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 8>just seemed that, I want to say glitchy, but it

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 8>was it was a little bit harder to read the

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 8>best stop version and a little bit more difficult to

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 8>you know, to copy and paste from like a you know,

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 8>a W two and from bank statements and that sort

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 8>of thing.

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and it was it.

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 8>Wasn't terrible but any means, but not not as streamlined

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 8>as the desktop version that I was used to.

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess, okay, I mean I understand that I'm trying

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to see here, So yeah, I mean that's okay. I'm

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>looking at Reddit right now, and you know, some people

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are discussing this, of course, and it is interesting because

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>people said, well, hold on, now that we have these

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>security updates to October twenty twenty six, why can't they

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>support it? Like, come on, people are you know, if

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you if you're doing that extension. So I would say

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to be unless TurboTax changes their mind.

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>You're probably stuck using the online system. You can also

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>switch to a different app, but of course that's a

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>pain because I'm sure all your data is in this app, right.

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>That's correct.

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I would say, now here's my other question.

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>If you're using the desktop app, does your data follow

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>through to the online app?

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 8>You can you can upload the you know, the file

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 8>from your from your from your from the browser and

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 8>it will you can you can transfer it over.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so that's probably what you're gonna be stuck

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>with doing, Brian. I know you said you thought you

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>knew the answer before you call it. I think that's

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 1>really you know, the only other thing that would be Yeah,

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 1>there is a thing where you can like write click

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on an app on Windows and do like compatibility mode,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's only for backwards compatibility, so if

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>you're running it, you know, if you wanted to run

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>on an older version or something like that. But I

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think you're gonna be able to get around this

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>unless TurboTax changes something. I will keep an eye on this.

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely something that a lot of people are chatting about,

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's going to impact more people. Were

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>only a couple of days into January, so I think

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>people are going to be discovering this as we move

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>into January, and maybe the more people that are vocal

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>about it, the more that TurboTax into it might have

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a change of heart. But right now, that is what

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the company says, that's what they're doing. I'll be honest.

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I use TurboTax for a long time. I now use

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this app called fly fin, which you know I don't.

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you have to change what you use,

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>but I love this app and I already got to

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>sign my CPA to do my taxes and it's I

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>used it last year, I used it the year before.

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. If you are even if you are not

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a person that is a freelancer or whatever, you have

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of deductions. This app is just so cool.

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I love it because it's like high tech. So basically,

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you connect all of your accounts. It looks at all

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of your transactions and you classify them. It helps with AI.

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It'll say like, oh, we think this is a business

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>expense or even a you know, if you don't have

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a business, just your personal expense, you know, But you

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>have to get past that whatever it is, like the

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand dollars that you get. You know, I'm not

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a tax expert, but I know there's like some sort

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of threshold for your deductions. But anyway, it's really good.

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end of the year, you literally

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>just someone they assign you a CPA and then they

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>just do your taxes for you. And I will tell

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you that last year, I did get like a disclaimer

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that said, you know, just so you know your your

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>CPA is overseas, like they're not based in the US.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I don't know. I mean everything

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>is overseas now, right. I mean, it doesn't mean that

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this person is not any more qualified or less qualified

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to do this, but you know that that was a reality.

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the only warning I saw. I

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's the same as this year. I

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't see that warning, but just so you know, you know,

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.919
<v Speaker 1>that's probably how they're doing it for a much better

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>price tag than some of these other things. But and

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I've tried the live CPA assist on Turbo tax and

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, I wasn't as impressed with that. But anyway,

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 1>by you know who likes taxes anyway, not no one

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I've ever met except CPA's. They kind of like them,

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>but they're making a lot of money off of them.

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Eighty to eight rich one on one eight eight eight

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four one zero one back after this, Oh,

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>this one's a slow burn. Okay, wait for it? Is

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this the right now song? Okay? This will forever? Is

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>this right here? Right now, right, Okay, I think this

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>was the Crystal Pepsi song. Look up on YouTube Crystal Pepsi?

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Is this van Helen?

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 8>Okay?

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nineteen ninety two Crystal Pepsi Van Halen. They did

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a commercial I think it was on Saturday Night Live

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, oh gosh, now I'm forgetting if

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it was the actual commercial or just the Saturday Night

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Live version. Anyway, they did a version on Saturday Night

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Live that was Crystal gravy. I will never forget as

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>a kid just seeing that, and I love Crystal pepsi.

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 1>It was like the clear Pepsi. I was like, hey,

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 1>how did they make pepsi clear?

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Because it's all chemicals and fake That's how eight to

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>eight rich one oh one eighty eight seven four to

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Christine has been waiting patiently

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>at Huntington Beach with her question. I don't know if

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I can help, because I can't. I don't understand what

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 1>it says on my screen here, But I will, I will,

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I will attempt. What can I help you with?

0:48:58.360 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 10>Hi, happy to be here, rich and Bobo, and thank

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 10>you for taking my calm. And I just want to

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.240
<v Speaker 10>tell you I'm always learning from you, and I'm always

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 10>replaying your podcast to learn to learn more all the time.

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>So oh my gosh, I feel so bad for you replaying.

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listening to it once is worse enough for

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>some people.

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's good.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 10>I learned a lot. So okay, So I have never

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 10>had this happen to me before. So last week I

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 10>have a laptop and it's Microsoft based, and I went

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 10>to restart my computer and then when the screen came up,

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 10>you know you put in your credentials, like you put

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 10>your password in. Well I put it in, and it

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 10>kept saying Microsoft, your log off of your offline with Microsoft.

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 10>So I thought, well, that's really weird. So maybe I

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 10>didn't type it right.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 2>So I typed it.

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 10>I typed it several times, constantly just kept telling me

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 10>I was offline with Microsoft. I couldn't open up. It

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 10>literally locked me out of my computer. I couldn't open

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 10>up any screens. I couldn't go to Google to like

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 10>start typing the thin to figure out what it's wrong

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 10>with my right whatever. So I thought, okay, well, let

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 10>me just go to my phone. So I went to

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 10>my phone, I typed in Microsoft, went in there found it,

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 10>put my credentials in, and then it started asking me

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.479
<v Speaker 10>a series of questions and one thing I couldn't get around.

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 10>And I don't know if you call it a it

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 10>gave me a single use code or maybe you call

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 10>it a pass key. I couldn't get around that because anyways,

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 10>because I think I remember you saying something like don't

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.280
<v Speaker 10>don't take a pass key because I could.

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Goof you up or something.

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 10>But I have to go back and listen to that podcast.

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 10>So anyways, after like trying to figure this out for

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 10>a couple of hours, I ended up logging in on

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 10>my phone with Microsoft directly, and it ended up I

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 10>was able to get into my computer. It was the

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 10>strangest thing I've never had this happen. And I've you know,

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 10>been having computers for over thirty years and always dealing

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 10>with Microsoft. So have you ever heard of this happening before?

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think what I think what it sounds to

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>me that you basically so Microsoft, for some reason, they

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>really like an internet connection when you're logging on to

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like verify the account unless you're using a local account.

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So and some people kind of have a work like Basically,

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft wants everything to be done online at this point, right,

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like they want everything to be you know, a Microsoft

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 1>account and when you sign in, it's checking against the

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:23.359
<v Speaker 1>online account. So that sounds like it sounds like two

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>things were happening. Number one, it could have been a coincidence.

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Has this happened again, No, it happened.

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 10>Happened since last week.

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm wondering if when you logged in, your computer

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.479
<v Speaker 1>was offline, like it just you know, sometimes these things happen,

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and your computer was just happened to be offline at

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that moment and it couldn't log in, and then when

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you went to your phone, it did log in because

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>your phone, you know, either your WiFi was fine there

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.359
<v Speaker 1>or the connection was there, or you're you know, you're

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>on cellular whatever, and you're able to log in there.

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 1>The thing that's confusing to me is the one time passcode.

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>So did you were you able to log into your

0:51:57.920 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>computer the regular way at the end?

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 10>I was, and I was able to do it. And

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 10>I kept checking my because I have a euro Wi

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 10>Fi or system in my house based on your recommendations,

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 10>so I kept looking at it.

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 2>It was lit.

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 10>It wasn't offline or anything. It was and I kept

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 10>looking at my computer to see that the Wi Fi

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 10>signal was up and I was connected. It was just

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 10>the strangest thing, and I can never.

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Have that happen.

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, here's here's an easy way to try this again.

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you want to put yourself

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>through this pain again, but you could, uh, you know,

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>either turn off your Wi Fi or if your if

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 1>your computer is connected via Ethernet, you can just pull

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 1>that cable and see if you get that same error

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and then you know that like it was just a

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>one time thing because your phone wasn't online. So that's

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>one way. But but I don't know if you want

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:43.839
<v Speaker 1>to do that, because you know, I know, once things

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 1>are working in the tech world, you don't really want

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to mess them up again. But in the future, if

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>this happens again, you might be able to do what's

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>called a local account and set up like a local

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:57.359
<v Speaker 1>login for this computer just to still get in even

0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 1>if you you know, can't get in with the with

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 1>the Wi Fi situation. And then at the end of

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the day, there's something called safe mode which you can

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.359
<v Speaker 1>boot into that and you can see, you know, if

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that if that can help you at least get into

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>your computer. But it sounds like this was just a

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>fluke to me. Yeah, and the one time code and

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, I think was just I don't think

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>anyone hacked you. I don't. I think that this was

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a fluke and it just maybe at the moment your

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 1>computer was not connected, at the second it logged on

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 10>Well, And I was also thinking, like not to even

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 10>have a password to even get into my laptop.

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:32.399
<v Speaker 4>Just I was thinking that, like, I don't.

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend that, dog you down. Do not recommend that, no,

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, it's just too you know, with everything

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>we store on these computers. Even if you say, oh,

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I just leave my computer at home, it's not a

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>big deal. I don't try. I just I can't in

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 1>good faith tell people to not have a passcode on

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>their computer or password on you know, passcode on their phone,

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>password on their computer. There's too much stuff on there,

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you just don't want this to get

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 1>into the wrong hands. Thanks to the call, Christine, really

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the kind words there and huntingdon be eighty eight

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>rich one on one. Coming up, we're gonna talk with

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the author of the subtle art of not giving a

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what? Right here, I'm rich on Tech. Welcome

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech, rich DeMuro here hanging out

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>with you, Talking technology triple eight rich one O one

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Some more news trickling out of the prelude to CS

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. Samsung is bringing Google Photos to its

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Samsung TVs and twenty twenty six, which is interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, But hey, Google, let's make a Google Photos

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>app for all TVs, right, Samsung, Roku, Apple TV, Fire TV,

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>where is the app? Come on, I got all my

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>photos in there. I want to see him on my

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.359
<v Speaker 1>big screen. And now I can call it Apple too,

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>because they don't have an Apple Photos app for anything

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 1>except Apple TV. But you know, and yes, you can

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 1>cast your photos, but I want a native app that

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I can just have on my screen anyway. So that's

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>something we'll be checking out. Samsung bringing Google Photos to

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Samsung TV's twenty twenty six models first, and then some

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>of the older devices will get them as well. Here's

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>what I love about my job, Here's what I love

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 1>about my shows. I've read this book when it came

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>out and I can't believe it's been this long, by

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, and I never thought I'd actually interview the

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:28.399
<v Speaker 1>author of this book, but yet here we are Mark

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Manson on the phone. He's got a new app called Purpose.

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 1>He's the author of the I got to figure out

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 1>how to say this on the radio, the subtle art

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of not giving. Can I say an F I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I just did Mark, Welcome to the show, be here,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. So was it really released in

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen? I know, man, we're coming up. It's going

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to be ten years this year. That's wild. I mean,

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this was so I'll never forget reading this book. And

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I had like a little and I'm sure you've heard many,

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>many stories about how this affected people's lives, but I

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>had a little extra swagger in my step after reading

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this book. I'm like, you know what, I don't care

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 1>about anything anymore. Yeah, yeah, those were the days. Similar days.

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So how has life changed in the wake of this book?

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So you wrote this obviously bestseller, did anything you know?

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Did your perspective change on anything? Because so many people

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 1>are now suddenly coming to you for this type of advice.

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I it's interesting because in hindsight.

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.439
<v Speaker 9>I didn't think about this at the time, but looking back,

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 9>you know, ten years into the past, I do think

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 9>one of the reasons it did so well is that

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:45.240
<v Speaker 9>it was one of the first books to name something

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 9>that everybody was experiencing. So if you think about the

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 9>early twenty tens, Facebook released its newsfeed.

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe in twenty twelve.

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 9>Social media Instagram came out twenty eleven, like social media

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 9>really started to take off, like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.480
<v Speaker 9>and and so that's when you start getting this like

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:07.280
<v Speaker 9>these ideas of fomo and social media and douced anxiety

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 9>and all this stuff. And so I think the just

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 9>the message of the book about being noticing what is

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 9>worth caring about and what's not worth caring about. I

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 9>think it caught really the struggle of our generation at

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 9>a very very early And so when I when I

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 9>look back over those ten years, I'm like, Okay, now

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 9>it kind of makes sense why it did so well.

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 9>But at the time I was just like, oh my god,

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 9>that's a lot of book sales. Yeah, you've got a

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 9>new app called Purpose. It's an AI coaching app. Explain

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 9>what this app is all about. So the app is

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 9>designed to help people find direction and clarity in their life.

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 9>The best way to describe it is, I don't.

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Know about if you've done this, but.

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<v Speaker 9>The recent survey show that almost fifty percent of chat

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 9>GBT users use chat GPT for life advice. They asked

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 9>personal questions they give them, you know, I'm having an

0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 9>argument with my spouse or I want to make a

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 9>career change, and they're using They're starting to use AI.

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 1>For these sorts of questions. I've heard people gotten divorced

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>because of it, Like they're like, oh, you should divorce

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 1>your wife and they're like, okay, sure, I'll do.

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:30.080
<v Speaker 9>It's it's actually crazy, Like there's some crazy stuff that's

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 9>been happening around this.

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And I first this landed on my radar about a

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 1>year ago.

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<v Speaker 9>I started running into a number of people in my

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 9>personal life who are like, hey, I'm using chat GPT

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 9>as a therapist. And I was like, huh, So I

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 9>went to it and I started testing it out. And

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 9>the problem, which is pretty well documented at this point,

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 9>is that the foundational AI models like they don't they're

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 9>psycho fantic. They kiss your butt, they don't challenge you,

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 9>they don't disagree with you. You know, if I go

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 9>to chat GPT and I tell it that I'm the

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 9>Queen of England and I should conquer the world, like,

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 9>it's probably not going to push back. It's probably just

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 9>going to start helping me come up with, you know,

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 9>whatever I want to come with.

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>My wife, and my wife and I joke about this

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>all the time, so like any idea you have, Oh,

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. Oh I just said it's going

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to mix you know, vinegar and whatever. It doesn't even matter.

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yes, this is great. It's like okay, yeah,

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 1>can I get a real independent perspective here? Okay, So

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>we know the problem. That's that's the problem. These things

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 1>are just kissing up to everyone.

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 9>And the issue is that ultimately, these these AI models,

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 9>they're designed to be assistance. And what does an assistant do.

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 9>An assistant says yes to everything anything you ask. Yeah,

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 9>I can do that anything you want. Yeah, sure you

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 9>should have that. So I started thinking of like, okay,

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 9>they're really if people are already going to be doing this,

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 9>then there needs to be some sort of AI on

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 9>the market that that is at least going to challenge

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 9>your assumptions, question your beliefs, you know, kind of poke

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.080
<v Speaker 9>at some blind spots because ultimately, like that is what

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:03.320
<v Speaker 9>good coaching or therapy is. Is it somebody who can

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<v Speaker 9>reflect back to the things that you're missing or not seeing.

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<v Speaker 9>So I met my co founder.

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking to.

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<v Speaker 9>Like invest in a startup that was working on something

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<v Speaker 9>like this, and that's when I met my co founder

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<v Speaker 9>about a year ago, and he's been building AI products

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<v Speaker 9>for over ten years, and we just said, screw it,

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<v Speaker 9>why don't why don't we make it?

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<v Speaker 1>And so okay, so you've got this app, So explain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like if you're using let's say you're already

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<v Speaker 1>using chatchybt for like everything, you know, questions answers. What

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<v Speaker 1>does purpose do differently, like what is it? What does

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<v Speaker 1>it bring to the table that chatchybe doesn't. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say the first thing it does is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is designed to be challenging. It's designed to question

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<v Speaker 1>your assumptions. One of the things that people notice right

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<v Speaker 1>away with it is that it if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>it and you say, like I want to lose ten pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, chatchybt will will give you like a die,

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<v Speaker 1>a plan and a workout routine purpose will say, why

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to lose ten pounds? What is it

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<v Speaker 1>about the ten pounds that you think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>make you happy?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It's there?

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<v Speaker 9>Is there another is this being motivated by something that's healthy?

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<v Speaker 9>Or are you like feeling insecure for some reason? And

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<v Speaker 9>so it looks it always tries to look a layer deeper.

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<v Speaker 9>The second thing that it does is that it has

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, we've worked really hard on the memory system.

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<v Speaker 9>Like the problem with the memory of most AI models

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<v Speaker 9>at the moment is that they can't sort by importance. Right,

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<v Speaker 9>so chat GBT knows that you you know, your probably

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:43.280
<v Speaker 9>your mother's name, and the city you grew up in.

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<v Speaker 9>It also knows what TV stand you bought last month

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<v Speaker 9>or the the issue you had with your car last week.

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<v Speaker 9>It doesn't understand that those are two completely different things.

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<v Speaker 9>That one memory, your memory of your mother, is far

1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 9>more important and close to your identity than what TV

1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:06.520
<v Speaker 9>stand you bought last month. And so we've tried to

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<v Speaker 9>build a memory that will rank and prioritize the importance

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<v Speaker 9>of memory so that it like understands that you know,

1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:18.360
<v Speaker 9>it won't get fixated on some like random detail of

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<v Speaker 9>your life and and start to start over indexing on

1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:24.920
<v Speaker 9>the advice that it gives. And then the last thing

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<v Speaker 9>that we've really focused on is just personality, Like it's

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<v Speaker 9>I've been writing in this space for twenty years. I've

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<v Speaker 9>been very successful, you know, communicating a lot of these

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<v Speaker 9>ideas to people, and so the goal was to really

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<v Speaker 9>just like give it a little bit of flavor, personality,

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<v Speaker 9>some fun like a make it tonally and stylistically a

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<v Speaker 9>little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>Than a normal AI that you would talk to. So

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<v Speaker 1>the website for the app is purpose dot app. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see what we're talking about here, Purpose

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<v Speaker 1>dot app. So would you consider this therapy?

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<v Speaker 9>Is it a journal? Is it something in between? Like

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<v Speaker 9>who do you think need this? And why it's not

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<v Speaker 9>We're definitely not going after therapy. We actually consciously chose

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<v Speaker 9>to kind of stay out of the therapy world for

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<v Speaker 9>a couple of reasons. One is just I think it's

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<v Speaker 9>higher stakes and I think this technology is still.

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<v Speaker 1>So new that it's not.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't like, I don't want to be making these

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<v Speaker 9>grand tests on people who are very psychologically vulnerable. I

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<v Speaker 9>think that that the technology really just needs to be

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<v Speaker 9>worked on quite a bit more before we like put

1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:35.760
<v Speaker 9>it in these high stake situations, so we're more focused

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<v Speaker 9>on kind of the coaching mentorship side of things, more

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<v Speaker 9>of the personal growth, personal development. I jokingly call it

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<v Speaker 9>the high quality problems. It's it's like if you want

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<v Speaker 9>to get a raise at work this year, or if

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<v Speaker 9>you're struggling to figure out whether you should stay in

1:03:56.280 --> 1:04:02.439
<v Speaker 9>a relationship or not. It's basically problems that normal, well

1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:06.720
<v Speaker 9>functioning adults, everyday people struggle with. But it's not like

1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:10.400
<v Speaker 9>a major emotional crisis. It's not like a psychiatric issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything like that.

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<v Speaker 9>For those things and and for those things purposes, it

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<v Speaker 9>is trained to tell you to go seek a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So would you is it almost it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>life coaching or it almost is like life coaching, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to you don't want to frame it

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<v Speaker 1>in these things. It's more of like a helpful app.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's it is weird because it is new territory, right,

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<v Speaker 9>So on the one hand, it is I think probably

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<v Speaker 9>the closest thing in the human world that it would

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<v Speaker 9>compare to is life coaching. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 9>like I mean, you can use it for all sorts

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<v Speaker 9>of different things. I mean it's we we get people

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<v Speaker 9>who uh, you know, use it to just bounce ideas

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<v Speaker 9>off of as they're going throughout their day. We get

1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:56.760
<v Speaker 9>people who are like, if they're bored on their commute,

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<v Speaker 9>they just pull it up and talk to it. So

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<v Speaker 9>like it is, I do feel like AI is going

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<v Speaker 9>to inhabit a lot of different categories that like we

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<v Speaker 9>haven't really that don't don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Among humans, and I imagine that this product is no different.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got the app, You've got a seven day

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<v Speaker 1>free trial. It's twenty dollars a month or one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty for the year. The question that I think

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be asking themselves is, hey, how

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<v Speaker 1>is this better than my chat GBT or how is

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<v Speaker 1>this better than chatting with Gemini or whoever they're using?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's your answer to that? What are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of this that they don't get.

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<v Speaker 9>You're going to get a higher, higher signal to noise ratio,

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<v Speaker 9>and you're going to get it much faster. I would

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<v Speaker 9>just I always encourage people and like, just download it,

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<v Speaker 9>try it for like twenty minutes. Generally speaking, people are

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<v Speaker 9>blown away within the first conversation.

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<v Speaker 7>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it's eerie.

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<v Speaker 9>How like we've got an onboarding process where we kind

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<v Speaker 9>of pull some personality traits and learn a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>about you. And it is shocking sometimes how dead on

1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:07.840
<v Speaker 9>the AI is in that first conversation. So I would

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<v Speaker 9>just encourage people to give it a shot, and if

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<v Speaker 9>it feels weird or it's not for you, that's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But he there, let us know what you think. They're

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<v Speaker 1>playing me off purpose dot app. Mark Manson, thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich all right, purpose dot app. Hey you heard them?

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<v Speaker 1>Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one. The

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going there to grab that app. We were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about purpose or I was able to find

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<v Speaker 1>the official TurboTax letter from let's see who was it?

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<v Speaker 1>The vice president of Turbo Tax that talked about their

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<v Speaker 1>decision to not support Windows ten and They do address

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that a lot of people are getting the

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<v Speaker 1>extended software updates, and they understand that, but they still

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<v Speaker 1>say that, you know what, it's just too risky to

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<v Speaker 1>use this system. So they've got a whole letter if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to read all about that. Rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot tv again the whole turbo tax. The new TurboTax

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<v Speaker 1>software is not going to work on a Windows ten

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<v Speaker 1>computer this year. So if you did an upgrade or

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't, you know, you're not using Windows eleven, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to run that. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>use the online software. Let's go to Vivian in Menefee.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I enjoy listening to your show, Thank you, but

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<v Speaker 7>I have a very serious.

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<v Speaker 4>With my email.

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<v Speaker 7>It's an email I don't like and it seems like

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<v Speaker 7>it's sub fixed in one because it has all these

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<v Speaker 7>giggles on it to your amount where you can't read nothing,

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<v Speaker 7>and every time I tried to delete it, it comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're trying to get rid of this this So

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're getting a phishing email and it's you're deleting

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<v Speaker 1>it and it's coming back. Is it the same exact sender?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it different senders it's the same okay, same center. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can. If it's the same sender, I would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>blocking the sender. So on whatever email app you have,

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<v Speaker 1>there is typically a way to block a sender with

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<v Speaker 1>a specific email address. Now you have to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time when you're getting spam emails or

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<v Speaker 1>a phishing email, they are coming from different addresses. But

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<v Speaker 1>if this email keeps coming back from the same person

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<v Speaker 1>with the same address, you can block that. And the

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<v Speaker 1>way to do that is just Google, Yahoo, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>block email sender and you know it'll give you the

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<v Speaker 1>directions for whatever your email address is. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>using Outlook, just say Outlook block email sender. If you

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<v Speaker 1>using Gmail, block out block sender. Apple lets you do

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<v Speaker 1>it on their phone. But whatever software you're using, you

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<v Speaker 1>either have to use the block or you can create

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<v Speaker 1>a filter that will just automatically filter that message into oblivion.

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<v Speaker 1>But Vivian, I would be careful. You know, if this

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<v Speaker 1>phishing email, I mean they're very common, so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting this, it's no real indication of your security. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they're using anything or they include anything in that

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<v Speaker 1>email that is personal, that you're still using. Like let's

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<v Speaker 1>say they say, oh, you have your password, and they

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what it is. A lot of times these

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<v Speaker 1>emails will scrape data that they find on the web,

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<v Speaker 1>especially from data breaches, and they will include that information

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<v Speaker 1>in the email to make it seem more legitimate. But

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<v Speaker 1>do not be swayed by that. These people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just phishing. That's where this term phishing email came from.

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<v Speaker 1>They're literally just throwing casting a wide net and hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to catch folks in it that are, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>reading closely or not reading carefully, or they're scared, or

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<v Speaker 1>they're worried and they click a link, or they give

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<v Speaker 1>over their information, whatever it is. So that's the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it. You can also report as spam

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<v Speaker 1>in your email program and that will help you as well. Now, additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do some things to keep your information from

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<v Speaker 1>getting out there. So, for instance, when you sign up

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<v Speaker 1>on websites you know that are just for advertising emails

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, use the different email address. I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned bitwarden a bunch on this show. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>other things I like about them is that you can

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<v Speaker 1>use it to generate usernames that still send to your email.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have Gmail, you know, Gmail lets you

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<v Speaker 1>do this thing where you can say your Gmail address

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<v Speaker 1>plus and put a plus sign there and then at

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<v Speaker 1>the end put a bunch of random letters, and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that email address is, it will still come to your email,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can use that as a first line of defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you sign up for a website, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just sign up with a with a plus to email address,

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<v Speaker 1>and that way you can just filter that email address

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<v Speaker 1>to the trash when you don't want to get that

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<v Speaker 1>email anymore. Most of the big companies will respect your

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<v Speaker 1>wishes to to not get their emails once you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>But the phishing emails are different because they're not These

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<v Speaker 1>are not like a legitimate company that's sending you this.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just scam artists, so be very careful. I

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<v Speaker 1>also do a thing where I do not load the

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<v Speaker 1>images on my email program. So if you go into

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<v Speaker 1>your settings, you might see a setting that says remote

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<v Speaker 1>image loading, so you can turn that off. And what

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<v Speaker 1>that does is anyone that's using a system to track

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<v Speaker 1>when you open your email, they will not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to tell that you open that email. And I tested

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<v Speaker 1>this out with my friend the other day, we were

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<v Speaker 1>out to lunch and he said, oh, you superhuman. I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell when you open my email. I said, not mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, let's try it. He sent an email and

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<v Speaker 1>it said, uh, you know, sent a rich And then

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<v Speaker 1>he said, did you open it yet? And I showed

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<v Speaker 1>him on my phone, Yeah, it's open, and on his

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<v Speaker 1>thing is still said not opened. Because these email programs

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<v Speaker 1>that people use to track you, they've got a little

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<v Speaker 1>tiny tracking pixel and the way they can track that

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<v Speaker 1>you've opened their email is that image loads on your

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<v Speaker 1>end and as soon as it loads, their server says,

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<v Speaker 1>oh he just loaded that image. You opened the email.

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<v Speaker 1>When you turn off external images, that can't happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's another line of defense. I'll link that up in

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<v Speaker 1>my website. Richontech dot tv eighty eight rich one O

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<v Speaker 1>Back after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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<v Speaker 1>end of the show called Feedbag, which is a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of feedback and the mail bag, where I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>read all the things that you email me throughout the week,

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<v Speaker 1>all the different little topics and things, and then of

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<v Speaker 1>course the questions that you email me. Some of those

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<v Speaker 1>become topics for this show as well, Samsung is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come out with a two hundred dollars, a two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars smartphone. It's called the Galaxy, a seventeen to five

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<v Speaker 1>G affordable five G smartphone, big screen six point seven

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<v Speaker 1>inch ammal ed display. It's got a smooth refresh rate

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<v Speaker 1>ninety hertz, which is not the highest, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest. That's good. It's a good middle ground, so

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<v Speaker 1>good for scrolling, good for video. It's got a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty megapixel camera with better low light photos, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other budget phones apparently according to Samsung. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't tested this personally yet. Battery is five thousand million

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<v Speaker 1>amp hours. That's huge. It'll recharge fifty percent in thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is the best part. Samsung is promising six

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<v Speaker 1>years of security updates and Android updates. So you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>six years for a budget phone that costs just two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks. That's incredible. And it's got some AI features.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have not tested this phone, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we have choices. Not everyone wants a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars phone. Some people just want a good phone

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple hundred dollars. This is something that you

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<v Speaker 1>could buy unlocked and use without a monthly payment and

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<v Speaker 1>use and it's cheap and it gets the job done,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not a lot of times these budget basic

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<v Speaker 1>phones are horrible. Yeah, you can get a phone for

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred bucks unlocked on Amazon and guess what, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be terrible. It's gonna be bloatwear city. The screen's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be good, the camera's gonna all cloudy and nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love that these companies, and I include Apple

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<v Speaker 1>and this as well, they're using their size to their

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<v Speaker 1>advantage at this point because they're coming out with these

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<v Speaker 1>high end technologies that two or three years later are

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<v Speaker 1>still really good, but the price has come down on them,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they could put them in a phone like

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<v Speaker 1>the A seventeen to five G and come out with

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<v Speaker 1>it at two hundred bucks. And I love it because

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<v Speaker 1>now you can have a phone that actually works and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really good for a price that is not extravagant

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, or out of reach for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. So that's coming out on January seventh. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get a review unit on that one. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to because I want to try that out. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Melissa in Los Angeles. Melissa, you're on with Rich?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, thank you for taking my call. I have a

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<v Speaker 11>question regarding the floppy beast okay, because they're absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Now where can it go?

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<v Speaker 11>Because I have certain family photos in there and certain

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<v Speaker 11>documents that I want to transfer to my computer? So

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<v Speaker 11>where do you know where I can go to have

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<v Speaker 11>that done? Because I don't have anymore away, I don't

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<v Speaker 11>know a way how to.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so obsolete, what they don't What kind of discs

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking? Are we talking like a five and

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter inch floppy or three and a half inch?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How what kind of discs are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 11>Remember those square ones the floppy discs?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the true floppy like it's big and like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just no.

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<v Speaker 11>They're small.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is so it's okay.

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<v Speaker 11>Like in the seventies up to the late nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's the smaller ones, but they're they're hardshell

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like they're they're not flexible.

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<v Speaker 11>No, they're not flexible. And then there's small square got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's a three and a half inch floppy disk? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you call it a floppy even though it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>but technically it's. Yeah. Do you have a computer, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's.

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<v Speaker 11>Macair.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I know it doesn't have a drive on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can order a floppy drive on Amazon, like

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<v Speaker 1>a USB one for about twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you call it?

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<v Speaker 11>Floppy disk drive?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so look on Amazon for something, look for a

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<v Speaker 1>three point five inch USB floppy disk drive, or you

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<v Speaker 1>just say, just say here, let me just see if

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<v Speaker 1>I type in three point five inch USB disk drive,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see if that brings it up.

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<v Speaker 11>We would I would also need what do you call

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<v Speaker 11>that a cable right to cook it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll it'll come with a cable. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you may need is and it looks like it

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<v Speaker 1>comes with it, so your computer may have USB C

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<v Speaker 1>it's called this. This comes with a U B A,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks like it comes with a connector, so

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<v Speaker 1>you basically and and the beauty of Amazon is that

1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you can try this put your disc in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't guarantee that your your computer is going to read

1:19:10.840 --> 1:19:13.720
<v Speaker 1>this disc, but if it does, you know, you just

1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:16.160
<v Speaker 1>copy these over to a cloud drive or you know,

1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:18.880
<v Speaker 1>at the very if it's a jpeg. Obviously it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fine because that's a universal format. But if

1:19:21.439 --> 1:19:24.639
<v Speaker 1>it's in some funky format from the the earlier days

1:19:24.720 --> 1:19:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of things, you may have to convert it. And there's

1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a million websites that can help you do that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is called vert v e r T

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<v Speaker 1>dot s H vert dot r T. Yeah, V like convert,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but v e r T dot s H.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you run into a document or a

1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:46.519
<v Speaker 1>file that I mean this one. When I'm looking at

1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:49.680
<v Speaker 1>these the image files that it can convert, it's like,

1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never even heard of half of these, So you

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<v Speaker 1>should be good there. So if these come up in

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of weird format, even if your computer won't

1:19:56.760 --> 1:19:59.519
<v Speaker 1>read them, uh even if it sees it but it

1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:02.280
<v Speaker 1>can't open it, just copy them over to your your

1:20:02.600 --> 1:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>hard drive, and then you can upload them to this

1:20:05.080 --> 1:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>website and it will convert them into a format that

1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a modern computer can see, like a JPEG, or if

1:20:11.840 --> 1:20:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a document, you know, it can convert them into

1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a word doc or a whatever you need, and then

1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you can save them. And I would of course recommend

1:20:19.840 --> 1:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>saving them to the cloud so that you don't lose

1:20:21.840 --> 1:20:23.880
<v Speaker 1>them in the future. But I would just look on

1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Amazon for a USB floppy disk drive three point five

1:20:30.200 --> 1:20:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and that should get you there. If not, if you

1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>don't feel comfortable doing this, you could just go on

1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Yelp and look for something like a data doctor or

1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:43.519
<v Speaker 1>something like that in your area and they may have

1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a computer or a system that can accommodate these old

1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:48.840
<v Speaker 1>media formats.

1:20:52.200 --> 1:20:54.360
<v Speaker 11>I don't know if there's anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Around, well you're in Lost, Well, if you're in Los Angeles,

1:20:58.080 --> 1:21:00.360
<v Speaker 1>there definitely there's a lot of people can do this.

1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:03.360
<v Speaker 1>So if you do, like a data recovery or something

1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, specialist, they should have a computer that they

1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:09.479
<v Speaker 1>can that they can use to get these things. And

1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:11.439
<v Speaker 1>if they don't, they they'll know how to do it.

1:21:11.479 --> 1:21:12.880
<v Speaker 1>At least. Now, of course, you're gonna have to pay

1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:14.920
<v Speaker 1>someone to do that, which is, you know, not ideal

1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:18.560
<v Speaker 1>because you can do all this yourself hopefully. You know,

1:21:18.920 --> 1:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the modern computers these days, they don't have any of

1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>these connectors. You know, we used to have a floppy drive.

1:21:23.000 --> 1:21:26.559
<v Speaker 1>We used to have a DV drive, a DVD drive,

1:21:26.600 --> 1:21:28.639
<v Speaker 1>a CD drive. None of that stuff is on today's

1:21:28.880 --> 1:21:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, most of the laptops for sure, some of

1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:33.679
<v Speaker 1>the desktops have them, but you know, it's just getting

1:21:33.840 --> 1:21:36.880
<v Speaker 1>rareer and rarer because everything's everything's done with the cloud.

1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And if if the phone makers had their way, and

1:21:39.640 --> 1:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>this may be happening, Melissa, is that they don't want

1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>any inputs on these phones whatsoever. You know, even that

1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the thing where you plug in your power cable at

1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the bottom, they want to get rid of that too,

1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:51.799
<v Speaker 1>because the more we can move people to the cloud.

1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Guess what, the more you know, it's it's better for

1:21:54.840 --> 1:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>security on the on the on the pro side, on

1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the flip side, it's better for their business because guess what.

1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Now you got to use their software to transfer things

1:22:03.040 --> 1:22:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to your phone. You've got to store stuff in their cloud,

1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, it's just one less way for

1:22:08.360 --> 1:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you to kind of open up the possibilities on this

1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:13.640
<v Speaker 1>phone with a with a connector cable, and it's just

1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>one less thing to break. I mean, there's a whole

1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:16.640
<v Speaker 1>bunch of reasons why they want to get rid of it,

1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and it probably will happen over time, hopefully not in

1:22:19.720 --> 1:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>the next year or so.

1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:26.360
<v Speaker 11>Eventually, I want to transfer photos also to shutterfly. You're

1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:28.280
<v Speaker 11>you're familiar with Shutterfly.

1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:33.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I personally wouldn't recommend Shutterfly. I mean nothing against Shutterfly.

1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:36.599
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, but you know, there are there are other

1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:38.360
<v Speaker 1>services out there that I think are better. I mean,

1:22:38.360 --> 1:22:40.839
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to print these, I mean, I personally

1:22:40.960 --> 1:22:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like Google Photos. I think that that's a really good

1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:46.280
<v Speaker 1>place to put these because, Melissa, you'll find that they

1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:49.360
<v Speaker 1>have amazing AI built in that if you put a

1:22:49.400 --> 1:22:51.920
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people, you know, old relatives and things in

1:22:52.000 --> 1:22:56.920
<v Speaker 1>these photos, it will sort them by people, places, things.

1:22:57.240 --> 1:22:59.479
<v Speaker 1>And Shutterfly may do this. I haven't. I haven't used

1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>them in a why well, I used to use them

1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot. In fact, that's where I kept all my

1:23:03.120 --> 1:23:06.160
<v Speaker 1>pictures for many, many years. But I think that there's just,

1:23:06.400 --> 1:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, better thing, better places to store your photos

1:23:09.200 --> 1:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Shutterfly to me is more a place

1:23:11.800 --> 1:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>where you go to print your photos, not necessarily store

1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:18.360
<v Speaker 1>them for the long term. Amazon Photos is really good

1:23:18.400 --> 1:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and if you're a Prime member, that's completely free to

1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:24.679
<v Speaker 1>store unlimited photos. Obviously, if you have an iPhone, iCloud

1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is good, drop Box one edrive, I mean, there's so

1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:31.120
<v Speaker 1>many ways to do this, Melissa, But the main thing

1:23:31.240 --> 1:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>is get those things off the discs, get them onto

1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:36.920
<v Speaker 1>your computer, get them into the cloud, and then once

1:23:37.000 --> 1:23:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you have them all converted and figured out, then you

1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:41.959
<v Speaker 1>can go from there. Are you good on the process?

1:23:42.760 --> 1:23:43.559
<v Speaker 1>You feel confident?

1:23:45.600 --> 1:23:48.479
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, after your explanation. But the one thing I want

1:23:48.520 --> 1:23:52.200
<v Speaker 11>to tell you is I don't have confidence privacy issues

1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:52.719
<v Speaker 11>with Google.

1:23:53.280 --> 1:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's okay, I would. I mean, I I

1:23:58.040 --> 1:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>think that you know a lot of that. I think

1:23:59.760 --> 1:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Google is actually a pretty good company when it comes

1:24:03.080 --> 1:24:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of this stuff.

1:24:03.720 --> 1:24:04.080
<v Speaker 5>But they do.

1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Look, they've built their business on using you know, people's data.

1:24:08.880 --> 1:24:11.040
<v Speaker 1>But anytime you're using a free product, that's kind of

1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the agreement you have with them. So I'm fine with that.

1:24:13.320 --> 1:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>If you don't want to use Google, you don't have to.

1:24:14.800 --> 1:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not I'm just giving you what I like.

1:24:17.439 --> 1:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>But there's there's yeah exactly. But if you want something

1:24:20.120 --> 1:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that's super private, they're not really trying to do anything

1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:24.479
<v Speaker 1>with your stuff. I mean, use Dropbox. You know, you

1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>can get a couple gigs on there for free. Amazon obviously.

1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>If you don't like Google, they're kind of you know,

1:24:30.360 --> 1:24:33.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're not really using your data for your photos.

1:24:33.680 --> 1:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know it's just if you want something, you

1:24:35.920 --> 1:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>use whatever you want. I'm not I'm just telling you

1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to try to get it into the cloud, just for safekeeping.

1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:41.880
<v Speaker 8>You know, right, But do as you like.

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<v Speaker 11>One more quick question.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, We're gonna have to take it off the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, Hang on because I gotta go to break

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one the website Rich

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<v Speaker 1>on tech dot TV. I'll link up that floppy disc

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<v Speaker 1>reader rich on tech dot TV. Welcome back to which

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<v Speaker 1>on tech Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology at Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellison says, hey, Rich, happy holidays. Oh wow, happy holidays.

1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess people are still saying that. I love it

1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>when your sons are on the show. They're like young

1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:22.919
<v Speaker 1>versions of you, so articulate and intelligent.

1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:23.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>All I think about is how articulate intelligent I used

1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:29.519
<v Speaker 1>to be. They're just coming up in this world. I'm

1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>like coming down. Quick question, what was on what was

1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the name of the website you mentioned a few weeks

1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>ago for getting discounts on shopping sites. It was simply Codes.

1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Simplycodes dot Com. Love that website. It's the only one

1:25:45.200 --> 1:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I check. I tell you this every single time. If

1:25:48.280 --> 1:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I was shopping on a website the other day and

1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I looked at simply Codes and it was you know,

1:25:53.880 --> 1:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>if if you search for the website on there and

1:25:57.080 --> 1:25:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the word codes is like crossed out, that means there's

1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>no codes. And you can go try looking at codes

1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>all over the internet. You're not gonna find them, guaranteed.

1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the secret sauce is of that.

1:26:06.960 --> 1:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>We should have Simply Codes on the show because I've

1:26:08.920 --> 1:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about them so much. Sue says, Hey, Rich, I

1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>have one of those flash drives that lets you download

1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>pictures from your iPhone to your desktop computer. Can you

1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>also go the other way download pictures from the desktop

1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to the iPhone. You could, but most of the way

1:26:25.479 --> 1:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that Apple is sort of like configured is one way.

1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>So you could do this, and I believe you can

1:26:35.000 --> 1:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>plug that into your iPhone. And I think there's an

1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:42.519
<v Speaker 1>import functionality on the photos app that shows up when

1:26:42.640 --> 1:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you are when you plug something in. I don't have

1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:47.120
<v Speaker 1>something to plug into here right now. I mean I

1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>do but it's well, let me say, hang on. This

1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is why I bring my bag of tricks with me everywhere,

1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>so I can test this stuff. Let's see if I

1:26:56.720 --> 1:27:00.040
<v Speaker 1>have a flash drive here. Usually, yeah, I do. So

1:27:00.080 --> 1:27:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna plug this into the bottom of my iPhone

1:27:02.439 --> 1:27:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and see if it has an import. Now, if you

1:27:04.400 --> 1:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>said Android, yeah, simple, but iPhone, you know they're a

1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit a little bit different. Everything's there, it's just

1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in you know, sometimes not necessarily where you think. Okay,

1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:17.120
<v Speaker 1>so I've got I went here, let's see. Okay, I'm

1:27:17.200 --> 1:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>not seeing an import. There's gotta be okay, hold on,

1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>hold on, I'm looking at utilities. Hold on, let's see utilities.

1:27:23.960 --> 1:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh it says imports. Let's see. Now those are the

1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>things I have imported. Okay, I'll have to look at this.

1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But in general, I'm gonna know you can import into

1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the files app like copy things over, but I got

1:27:37.880 --> 1:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to look to see how to do that with them.

1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:42.439
<v Speaker 1>But in general, a couple of ways to get photos

1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>from your computer to your iPhone. Number one, if you

1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>have a Mac computer, just air drop them. They'll go

1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>right into the photos app. You could turn on iCloud

1:27:52.240 --> 1:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>photos on both devices, so you can drag and drop

1:27:55.479 --> 1:27:57.559
<v Speaker 1>on your photos app on the desktop and they'll sync

1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>right to your phone. There's some wire options if you

1:28:01.040 --> 1:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>have a cross platform, like if you have a Windows computer,

1:28:03.960 --> 1:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>you can use the app called local Send, and basically

1:28:07.479 --> 1:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're on the same Wi Fi network, you can

1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:13.479
<v Speaker 1>just transfer large files anything from your phone or your

1:28:13.520 --> 1:28:17.360
<v Speaker 1>computer to your phone. And then another one is called Blip.

1:28:18.040 --> 1:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I just use this today. This one's this is basically

1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like an air drop, but it does work over the Internet.

1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But once you install it on your computer, like it's

1:28:26.080 --> 1:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>really cool. Like let's say you have a computer, a

1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Windows computer and an iPhone. You can install Blip on

1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>both of those devices, and then everything gets a name,

1:28:35.000 --> 1:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>so when you want to share a picture from one

1:28:36.760 --> 1:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>thing to another, you just literally tap the name of

1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the product like your phone, and it will send it

1:28:41.800 --> 1:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>to it. So it's kind of like Local Send, but

1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:47.439
<v Speaker 1>like less geeky. And then if you want something that's

1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>really good, I love this app called Walter Pro and

1:28:50.680 --> 1:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>this is really cool because it does more than just photos.

1:28:54.360 --> 1:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>It basically lets you transfer any file onto your phone

1:28:57.280 --> 1:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>like Dragon drop or your iPad. So if you've been struggling,

1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you got an ebook or something. You know, a lot

1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff has gotten easier thanks to the Internet,

1:29:05.000 --> 1:29:07.759
<v Speaker 1>but you know, before when it was all cables and stuff,

1:29:07.800 --> 1:29:09.799
<v Speaker 1>it was really tough to move things to your iPhone.

1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>But this is this app is like it's in my

1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>toolkit and I just love it. Walter Pro wa l

1:29:15.720 --> 1:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>t r Pro and you just drag and drop any file,

1:29:19.680 --> 1:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so it figures out what the file is, it converts

1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it if your iPhone can't play it, and it will

1:29:26.000 --> 1:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>put it into the right app. So all of these things.

1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>It's really really good at that stuff. So it's called

1:29:31.320 --> 1:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Walter Pro works on Mac and Windows, and I love

1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:38.479
<v Speaker 1>it because you can just drag and drop anything. And

1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>so I mean you can do files, you can do photos,

1:29:42.320 --> 1:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you can do music, you can do any video, and

1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just so it's like what it's what

1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Apple should give you, but they don't. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure why they don't give us that, but they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say one more before we get to the break here,

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<v Speaker 1>Darren says, hey, Rich, is the website missing money dot

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<v Speaker 1>com legit. I heard it's for government for finding old

1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>lost money. I went there, found some started filling out

1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the form and asked for my social Should I give it?

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas? It is legit, so it's run on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of state governments to help. You know, these reunite people

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<v Speaker 1>with unclaimed funds. But I agree. I did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I went there and I started doing the claim. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for my social I was like, ah, I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to give that. But anyway, all the states

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<v Speaker 1>run their own sites as well, so you can go there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this's just links to them. But yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>is legit. You just have to decide if the money's

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<v Speaker 1>worth it. Eighty to eight rich one oh one rich

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<v Speaker 1>on tech Dot TV more after this, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>rich on tech rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>talking technology. We got a call. We got a question

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<v Speaker 1>about importing photos onto the iPhone. It is possible. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to find where the import they've moved. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like on the iPhone, so I'm trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>where to import those. I know you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the photos app somehow. I just with iOS twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six it seems like it's changed. So there I see

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<v Speaker 1>the imports, but I just can't seem to get it

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<v Speaker 1>to find the photo on my flash drive, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is possible. Eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four two four one zero one. The website richon

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<v Speaker 1>tech dot tv. It's updated with everything that we've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>so far. My next guest is someone who I interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>for KTLA, a web a story about EXIF data metadata

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone. Remish Strina of Austin is a UCLA

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<v Speaker 1>professor and director of the uc Digital Culture's Lab Ramess

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<v Speaker 1>you there.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm so glad to join you. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 5>having me, Thank.

1:31:52.800 --> 1:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for being here. I know this a long time coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're trying to figure out the best date and time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad you're here because you said some great

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the interview we do with KTLA about privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me just ask you, it's twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>What's top of mind when it comes to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what people are up against this year when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to their digital life.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean the gateway to so many anxieties we

1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:25.960
<v Speaker 5>have about technology today, Rich, is the reality that almost

1:32:26.280 --> 1:32:28.680
<v Speaker 5>as we discussed in the story, the great story you

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<v Speaker 5>did for KTLA, is that almost anything in everything we

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<v Speaker 5>do is surveilled rich basically almost anything and everything we

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<v Speaker 5>do is turned into data, and that data is captured.

1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:44.000
<v Speaker 5>That data is being used to train AI systems that

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<v Speaker 5>in many cases are displacing, if not replacing work. That

1:32:49.800 --> 1:32:52.360
<v Speaker 5>data is being used to prop up the most powerful

1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:54.880
<v Speaker 5>companies in the history of the world. That data is

1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:58.760
<v Speaker 5>being used, you know, combined with particular algorithms to have

1:32:58.920 --> 1:33:02.400
<v Speaker 5>polarizing effects on the American population. So I hate to

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<v Speaker 5>be a doom and gloomer because I think we can

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<v Speaker 5>do a ton to transform the status quo. But the

1:33:08.080 --> 1:33:11.720
<v Speaker 5>reality is is these forces that make many people feel insecure.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm not sure if they can trust what

1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:19.200
<v Speaker 5>they see or who they're engaging with online. These forces

1:33:19.280 --> 1:33:24.120
<v Speaker 5>are all built upon the collection, uh the aggregation and

1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:29.960
<v Speaker 5>the retention of our our lives, our intimate personal lives.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you just think about it, even like social

1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:35.240
<v Speaker 5>media itself, I don't really go on to social media

1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:37.000
<v Speaker 5>to see what Mark Zuckerberg is up to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, No, you don't care that he's body surfing

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever he's doing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, just a little it's funny. It's a little funny,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've actually met him before, so he looked very

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<v Speaker 5>different when I met him those ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Up right, Or I go into social media maybe if

1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:58.439
<v Speaker 5>I'm voyeuristic to see what an ex girlfriend is up to.

1:33:59.120 --> 1:34:01.400
<v Speaker 5>That's why I go in social media. Right. So we

1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:04.360
<v Speaker 5>are the product and the customer, right, But it's all

1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:07.280
<v Speaker 5>our data that is being monetized for these third parties,

1:34:07.320 --> 1:34:11.799
<v Speaker 5>which is these insanely wealthy evaluated companies that are dominating

1:34:11.840 --> 1:34:16.719
<v Speaker 5>the stock market. So that's why there's concern and anxiety today.

1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:20.479
<v Speaker 5>But this digital world could serve all of us if

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<v Speaker 5>we put in particular reforms, and I truly believe we

1:34:23.040 --> 1:34:26.280
<v Speaker 5>can do that, but it might take some time and

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<v Speaker 5>the political will as well. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in the US, at least, the company is king, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like the tech companies are the ones who are writing

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. There's really not a lot of laws around

1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:41.519
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Now we're seeing some, but it's all very much.

1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, the these tech companies fight it. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want any rules around what they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We had we had a woman who I a caller

1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>who was I recommended Google Photos to her and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put my stuff into role. I

1:34:56.400 --> 1:34:59.320
<v Speaker 1>don't trust it. I don't like the privacy aspect. And

1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, we have this agreement with these

1:35:01.920 --> 1:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>companies that we are the data and so they're monetized.

1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>If it's free, we are the product, right, isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not the first process.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all built on terms of service that we all

1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:14.640
<v Speaker 5>sign on to or we just you know, hit a

1:35:14.720 --> 1:35:18.080
<v Speaker 5>checkbox on that are totally designed to be unintelligible, meaning

1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:20.720
<v Speaker 5>like I mean, they're not just legal speak, but it's

1:35:20.800 --> 1:35:24.400
<v Speaker 5>like extremely impossible to understand it. And the default that

1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:27.439
<v Speaker 5>the real problem is, the default is warrantless data collection.

1:35:27.840 --> 1:35:30.439
<v Speaker 5>The default should be, you know that we opt in

1:35:31.000 --> 1:35:34.160
<v Speaker 5>maybe with particular services or perks offered to us to

1:35:34.320 --> 1:35:37.519
<v Speaker 5>certain types of data collection. But now the status quo

1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:41.200
<v Speaker 5>data is data collection about everything and anything. Let me

1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:43.200
<v Speaker 5>just give you an example. It's not just on a

1:35:43.280 --> 1:35:46.400
<v Speaker 5>platform rich as I said, the aggregation and data. So

1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:48.880
<v Speaker 5>an example I like to say, always tell people are

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<v Speaker 5>my students, you know, we're starting term at UCLA on Monday,

1:35:53.400 --> 1:35:56.439
<v Speaker 5>is okay, it's one thing for you know, my Instagram

1:35:56.560 --> 1:36:00.719
<v Speaker 5>data to be you know available to Meta, the holding

1:36:00.840 --> 1:36:03.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, the big com the parent company, but it's

1:36:03.880 --> 1:36:07.040
<v Speaker 5>another for that. You know, we're in Instagram, I'm always

1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:09.280
<v Speaker 5>having a good time. I'm just too cool for school.

1:36:10.320 --> 1:36:12.880
<v Speaker 5>But what if that data was aggregated with my seven

1:36:12.920 --> 1:36:15.519
<v Speaker 5>to eleven data going there last night at midnight and

1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:19.240
<v Speaker 5>buying forties and cigarettes and I didn't do either of

1:36:19.280 --> 1:36:21.160
<v Speaker 5>those things. But think about that that part of my

1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:24.280
<v Speaker 5>There are different parts of our lives. So privacy is

1:36:24.360 --> 1:36:26.679
<v Speaker 5>not just a one size fits ault thing. It's certain

1:36:26.800 --> 1:36:30.120
<v Speaker 5>things in certain contexts, right, and so that is being

1:36:30.240 --> 1:36:33.240
<v Speaker 5>violated right now. And what you call tech companies rich

1:36:33.360 --> 1:36:36.439
<v Speaker 5>are not just tech companies. The biggest taxi company in

1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:38.479
<v Speaker 5>the history of the world is a tech company Uber,

1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:41.360
<v Speaker 5>the biggest hotel company in the history of the world

1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:45.920
<v Speaker 5>accommodation company is a tech company Airbnb. The biggest media

1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:49.000
<v Speaker 5>company in the history of the world is Meta slash Facebook. Right,

1:36:49.479 --> 1:36:53.760
<v Speaker 5>So they've taken over everything in anything, monetizing our data

1:36:54.080 --> 1:36:55.960
<v Speaker 5>with these little gremlins in the middle that we call

1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:59.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm just joking about the which we call algorithms.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's true.

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<v Speaker 5>We see in what we don't see, all based on

1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:05.559
<v Speaker 5>surveillance of us. So people are being individually micro targeted

1:37:05.600 --> 1:37:08.720
<v Speaker 5>with content. And that's why maybe you and I rich

1:37:08.720 --> 1:37:12.720
<v Speaker 5>are like brothers from another mother, same demographic, SA, this, same, that,

1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:14.960
<v Speaker 5>same everything. But you and I could both be on

1:37:15.040 --> 1:37:18.120
<v Speaker 5>Twitter slash x and be presented with visions of the

1:37:18.200 --> 1:37:21.320
<v Speaker 5>world and the nation that have no overlap whatsoever with

1:37:21.439 --> 1:37:21.880
<v Speaker 5>one another.

1:37:22.080 --> 1:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>That's wild Why.

1:37:23.160 --> 1:37:25.320
<v Speaker 5>At scale we get fragmentsed in polarized.

1:37:25.520 --> 1:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>This is I talk about this all the time. We

1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>used to have shared values in this world, by the way,

1:37:33.080 --> 1:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and country, yeah, and we also have. We also have.

1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>We also used to all watch the same thing, like

1:37:37.640 --> 1:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>we used to sit down for better or for worse.

1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Oz came on once a year, you sat down.

1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:46.720
<v Speaker 1>It was that shared experience. Right now everyone has their

1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>own individual experience and it's run, like you said, by

1:37:50.320 --> 1:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>an algorithm that, by the way, is leading people down

1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:56.400
<v Speaker 1>paths that have never been done before. Right Like you're

1:37:56.760 --> 1:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there, you watch one video about something, and

1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>now you're suddenly seeing a thousand videos about an eating

1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>disorder or something like that.

1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:06.120
<v Speaker 5>Never hardcore en us, you know, for these platforms, it

1:38:06.280 --> 1:38:08.840
<v Speaker 5>just makes you more and more and more hardcore because

1:38:08.880 --> 1:38:13.280
<v Speaker 5>it's predicting, computationally predicting content that is likely to grab

1:38:13.360 --> 1:38:17.439
<v Speaker 5>our attention, which is extracting dopamine. It's usually these three

1:38:17.520 --> 1:38:21.520
<v Speaker 5>hormones are part of the process. Dopamine, cortisol, and adrenaline.

1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:24.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I am an adrenaline junkie, I'll be honest,

1:38:24.880 --> 1:38:27.120
<v Speaker 5>you know. But at the same time, I also know

1:38:27.240 --> 1:38:30.400
<v Speaker 5>that too much adrenaline firing in my brain could actually

1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:34.120
<v Speaker 5>imbalance me. Same thing with dopamine and cortisol. Right, dopamine,

1:38:34.160 --> 1:38:37.320
<v Speaker 5>we get a dopamine rush when we get maybe ding

1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:40.680
<v Speaker 5>ding ding at a slot machine. But then we know

1:38:40.840 --> 1:38:44.280
<v Speaker 5>you get strung out if you just become a dopamine hounds,

1:38:44.400 --> 1:38:49.040
<v Speaker 5>so to speak. So this is why we are, you know,

1:38:49.120 --> 1:38:52.000
<v Speaker 5>being fragmented, because if you actually look at Americans or

1:38:52.040 --> 1:38:57.040
<v Speaker 5>Californians or Angelino's like us, we have remarkable actually agreements

1:38:57.320 --> 1:38:59.200
<v Speaker 5>in a lot of different things. If you just pull

1:38:59.280 --> 1:39:03.480
<v Speaker 5>this country seven percent, you know what, there's widespread consensus

1:39:03.840 --> 1:39:07.320
<v Speaker 5>on many issues politically, economically if you just do a

1:39:07.439 --> 1:39:11.240
<v Speaker 5>wide poll outside of this category of political party or

1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:14.720
<v Speaker 5>what have you. And the and the reason the engines

1:39:14.760 --> 1:39:17.920
<v Speaker 5>that individualize us and separate us are really part of

1:39:18.320 --> 1:39:21.000
<v Speaker 5>this technology world, and the sad part of it for

1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:23.479
<v Speaker 5>me is not that it's all only that it's built

1:39:23.560 --> 1:39:27.640
<v Speaker 5>upon data collection and micro targeting through these algorithms, but

1:39:27.800 --> 1:39:31.120
<v Speaker 5>it's also built on an Internet that started at UCLA

1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:34.760
<v Speaker 5>where I work fifty now fifty six years ago that

1:39:35.200 --> 1:39:38.960
<v Speaker 5>we paid for US taxpayers. So if you compound these

1:39:39.040 --> 1:39:41.679
<v Speaker 5>issues and then you look at the emergence of AI,

1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:46.120
<v Speaker 5>which is creating content that's indistinguishable, you know, like fake

1:39:46.240 --> 1:39:46.880
<v Speaker 5>human beings.

1:39:47.760 --> 1:39:47.880
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1:39:47.960 --> 1:39:49.559
<v Speaker 5>I was even told by a friend of mine who

1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:52.720
<v Speaker 5>is tech CEO rich that you know that I know

1:39:52.800 --> 1:39:55.519
<v Speaker 5>we're doing this audio, but say we even video that

1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:58.000
<v Speaker 5>an AI could do this interview for me within you know,

1:39:58.120 --> 1:40:00.960
<v Speaker 5>six months to one year. And I don't know, I

1:40:01.040 --> 1:40:03.360
<v Speaker 5>could just you know whatever, it's just whatever you want your.

1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Data than my AI to do that, right, I do

1:40:07.080 --> 1:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>believe it. It's it's wild because it's these things have

1:40:09.439 --> 1:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>taken on a life of their own, and they kind

1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:15.479
<v Speaker 1>of they absorb so much information quickly and regurgitate it

1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:18.599
<v Speaker 1>that it's unlike anything we've ever seen before. Real quick.

1:40:18.640 --> 1:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>We got to run in a in a minute. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to what's the solution you've talked about this

1:40:22.640 --> 1:40:27.479
<v Speaker 1>idea of you know, a more democratic internet. What do

1:40:27.560 --> 1:40:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you think?

1:40:27.840 --> 1:40:28.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, what?

1:40:28.280 --> 1:40:28.320
<v Speaker 3>What?

1:40:28.479 --> 1:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>What's the solution here? Do we have one?

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<v Speaker 5>It involves, you know, harnessing the kinds of political forces

1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:37.479
<v Speaker 5>to set up checks and balances in our system. And

1:40:37.640 --> 1:40:40.080
<v Speaker 5>that's not going to be anti tech innovation. It's going

1:40:40.160 --> 1:40:42.599
<v Speaker 5>to direct it in a way that continues to amass

1:40:43.560 --> 1:40:46.920
<v Speaker 5>astronomical profits and valuations for these companies, but not at

1:40:46.960 --> 1:40:50.840
<v Speaker 5>the cost of workers, consumers, citizens, even people of the planet,

1:40:50.920 --> 1:40:55.080
<v Speaker 5>given the disastrous effects of AI on energy, water, and

1:40:57.000 --> 1:40:59.960
<v Speaker 5>rare earth minerals. So instead, what we can do is how,

1:41:00.240 --> 1:41:02.960
<v Speaker 5>as I alluded to earlier, have the default being not

1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:06.639
<v Speaker 5>the surveillance and capture of our data, and actually create

1:41:06.760 --> 1:41:10.360
<v Speaker 5>regulations that ensure that people have certain levels of power

1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:14.320
<v Speaker 5>and transparency and the ability to have greater accountability. So

1:41:14.439 --> 1:41:16.920
<v Speaker 5>we can create things like data unions that represent us

1:41:16.960 --> 1:41:20.680
<v Speaker 5>for our data. We can create mechanisms where people have

1:41:21.720 --> 1:41:25.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, job security and economic security as jobs get

1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:28.640
<v Speaker 5>automated out. We can regulate the algorithms that actually do

1:41:28.760 --> 1:41:31.960
<v Speaker 5>the dividing on social media platforms to ensure that there's

1:41:32.000 --> 1:41:35.639
<v Speaker 5>third party audit without divulging the source code so they're

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<v Speaker 5>the cool thing about this all is as fun as engineering.

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<v Speaker 5>As I'm a former engineer. There are even more sort

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<v Speaker 5>of solutions to guide and redirect this digital world so

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<v Speaker 5>it actually supports everybody's interests rather than the very very

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<v Speaker 5>very few at you know, pitted against the rest of us,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and that just creates division. And that's what

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<v Speaker 5>we need to change right now in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe greed. Ramesh, doctor Ramesh shrina Vast and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining me today, professor at UCLA. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put a link to all of his books and website

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<v Speaker 1>and podcast online. Rich On Tech dot TV coming up, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. We are going to open up the feedbag

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you. Coming up next on rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you. We're gonna get to the feedbag. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to share my inflight texting hack that I used

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<v Speaker 1>on my last flight, which I cannot take credit for

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<v Speaker 1>this Android authority in clude me into this last year

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<v Speaker 1>and I was I did it last year and I

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<v Speaker 1>might have mentioned it, but I just I love it

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so great if you're on the plane and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got an Android phone and you've got you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay for Wi Fi, but they give you

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<v Speaker 1>messaging for free. If you open up the Google Messages app,

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<v Speaker 1>you can chat with Google Gemini for free, just like

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<v Speaker 1>you would text someone. So if the airline has given

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<v Speaker 1>you free texting, and instead of texting another person, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just texting AI. And so I did this all flight long.

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<v Speaker 1>I finished a book, I watched a movie, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had the you know, the book. I said, okay, explain

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<v Speaker 1>me this in the book. And then the movie, I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, asked. I watched this movie called Friendship,

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<v Speaker 1>which was, oh my gosh. I mean it's like whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a. It was just it was it's about

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<v Speaker 1>guys trying to make friends with other guys, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like very real about how tough it is, Like women

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<v Speaker 1>seem to make friends, no problem, guys a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>trickier anyway. So it was like it was cringe worthy,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put it that way. Anyway. Uh yeah, it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a I'll link up the article in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's such a cool way to uh kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hack the system. And it's great. The other thing this

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<v Speaker 1>another article is let's see where is it. Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find it. Oh yeah. Android Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>sharing So this another thing where you can basically share

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<v Speaker 1>your Wi Fi. Uh if you log into a Wi

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<v Speaker 1>Fi network you want to share it with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people do this on the plane as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to travel router, you can just share

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<v Speaker 1>it using an Android phone. So both of these things

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<v Speaker 1>are Android specific because iPhone has different rules and regulations

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<v Speaker 1>with their phone. But anyway, I thought they were both

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. I'll link them up on the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to the feedback. Bruce in southern

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<v Speaker 1>California says Rich, I've got to watch it. Consumer alert.

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<v Speaker 1>I paid what looked like a simple five dollars fee

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<v Speaker 1>on a website to get help with an old laptop issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I only need a quick answer. What I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>is that the five dollars question quietly signed me up

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<v Speaker 1>for a sixty five dollars a month subscription. I skipped

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<v Speaker 1>the fine print while chatting with their bot, which was

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<v Speaker 1>my mistake, but the way it's presented is not clear

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I caught it quickly and canceled, but it

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<v Speaker 1>still showed up as a pending charge. My credit card

1:44:42.400 --> 1:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>company told me to wait. Anyway, I found lots of

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuits and settlements over this exact issue with this company,

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<v Speaker 1>single question fees turning to expensive monthly subscriptions without clear disclosure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm usually careful about this stuff, so this one caught

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<v Speaker 1>me off guard. Just wanted to flag it for others.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the work you do, Bruce. This leads me

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<v Speaker 1>to advice that I always give. You have to look

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<v Speaker 1>for the fine print. And I know you sound like

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<v Speaker 1>you do, but look, look look again. Anything that you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting for like ninety nine cents for a one week

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<v Speaker 1>trial or you know, whatever it is, there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a big payment that comes after that, and that's

1:45:18.560 --> 1:45:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the reason they're giving you that dollar trial or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So always look in. My other pro tip is you

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<v Speaker 1>can cancel the subscription as soon as you sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and you'll still usually get to use it

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<v Speaker 1>until the free trial runs out, whether you're on Android,

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone or even with any sort of subscription you sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for. So just remember that. Dennis in Florida says,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck Man no Show on December twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>at least give us a best of you're slacking, Rich. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we did have a show. It was a best of

1:45:45.600 --> 1:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>show and we did give it to you. Maybe he

1:45:48.080 --> 1:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>sent this before the podcast came out. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, we only do a tape show like

1:45:53.400 --> 1:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a couple times a year, and no matter what, I

1:45:55.920 --> 1:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>get emails from people saying Rich, I can't believe you're slacking.

1:45:59.720 --> 1:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>It is like I gotta take a break once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Come on, cut me some slack jack. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see here. PJ says someone asked you about scanning programs recently.

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<v Speaker 1>One I like a lot is a free program called

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<v Speaker 1>NAPS two. Not another PDF scanner. It's open source, it's free,

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<v Speaker 1>works on Mac, Windows, and it's compatible with most scanners

1:46:21.640 --> 1:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like Cannon brother HP built in scanning ocr searchable PDFs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great NAPS two dot com. All right, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good one to add to the list. I'll put that

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<v Speaker 1>on the website. John says, I tried downloading that Glimpse

1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>notifications app you recommended, but I ended up with the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong one called Easy home Screen. It tried to charge

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<v Speaker 1>me thirty nine dollars and took over my home screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out, when I searched for a glimpse in the

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<v Speaker 1>play Store. The first one that popped up was not

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<v Speaker 1>the real glimpse. This time I used your direct link.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the free the right free app installed. From

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<v Speaker 1>now on, I'll be more careful and check the details

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<v Speaker 1>before downloading, or better yet, use the links you provide. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>this happens all the time. I recommend an app on

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<v Speaker 1>TV or the radio. People download whatever they find when

1:47:08.240 --> 1:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>they search for it, and they blame me and they say, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>you just recommended this app. They're charging me ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month, sixty dollars a month, and that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>app I recommended. Look closely when you search something on

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<v Speaker 1>Google Play. The first link that comes up is not

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<v Speaker 1>always the link to the direct app. It's probably an ad.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing goes on iPhone, same thing goes on Google.

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<v Speaker 1>So be careful, use direct links when possible, and double

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<v Speaker 1>check the names. A lot of these apps they sound similar,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not the same spelling.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They They're said one way, but it's spelled another way.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see here. Cecilia says, Hey, Rich, I just saw

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<v Speaker 1>your Rich on Tech Weekly show on KTLA for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, and I love it. Keep it going. This

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<v Speaker 1>was so funny. This happened over the break. KTLA, the

1:47:53.120 --> 1:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>TV station I worked for, showed my TV show that

1:47:56.439 --> 1:47:59.439
<v Speaker 1>we've been doing for two years now on streaming. They

1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>showed it over the air. Usually it's just on streaming,

1:48:02.760 --> 1:48:04.439
<v Speaker 1>so all these people were like, wait, what you have

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<v Speaker 1>a show? Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been out there for two years. But because it's on streaming,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the audience was much bigger when they put

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you say? We got to go? Ed says

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<v Speaker 1>On Christmas Day? Instead of that burning log on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>they should run a rich On Tech marathon with all

1:48:43.960 --> 1:48:47.280
<v Speaker 1>your segments from the year. I like the way you

1:48:47.360 --> 1:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>guys think. You guys are funny. I love it. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have time for one more? Probably not? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to do it for this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You can find links to everything I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wait to show you all of the cool stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to this first show of twenty twenty six. There are

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