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Speaker 1: This is year number four. How is that possible? Year

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, Rich, it's Mike in Minnesota. Hey. So, I

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Let's go to Jamie

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Speaker 4: You're on with rich Hey, how you doing today, man?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? What's up?

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Speaker 4: I love your musical selection choice you go from you

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Speaker 1: I pick everything myself, Jamie, So yes, these are these

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Speaker 1: are There is a theme today. The theme is sort

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Speaker 4: Bro, I got two questions. First of all, I want

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Speaker 4: And I also went out too. I'm visually impaired just

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, and I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it when I saw a blank community reach

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Speaker 4: Well it's well, okay, okay, the I have them is

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Speaker 1: Be careful, Jamie, I don't want you fallen off a

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Speaker 1: stool to get to prices right, Well, I tried listen.

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Speaker 4: one day says, oh my god, my boyfriend got.

435
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Speaker 7: To kill hmself.

436
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Speaker 1: All the name of Drew Carey. Now I'm just kidding, right, Okay, Well,

437
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Speaker 1: here's what I think you should do. Have you checked

438
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Speaker 1: out an app called Antenna Point that well, I you

439
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: may have to have someone help you, but you know

440
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: what it does. Is it you put in your you know,

441
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Speaker 1: basically based on where your phone is, it will show

442
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Speaker 1: you where to point your antenna to get the reception

443
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Speaker 1: of the channel that you want. So if you're looking

444
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Speaker 1: at this thing, and I've done this in my home,

445
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Speaker 1: you know, most of the channels come from a certain

446
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Speaker 1: tower right like here in where I live. They all

447
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: come from the same mountain pretty much in your area.

448
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: That may be the same case, but you won't know

449
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Speaker 1: until you open up this app and look. So I

450
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Speaker 1: would get that app. It's called Antenna Point. It comes

451
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Speaker 1: from Antenna's Direct and you basically can look at that

452
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Speaker 1: and see where this antenna needs to be aimed for

453
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Speaker 1: the maximum reception. And it may be that you know,

454
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Speaker 1: you change it to one side, it's going to get CBS.

455
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Speaker 1: You change it to the other. It's not gonna get

456
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Speaker 1: anything else, so you have to you know, the whole

457
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Speaker 1: antenna thing is not a perfect system. Let's put it

458
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Speaker 1: that way.

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Speaker 4: It's just not another thing. Rich I keep hearing about,

460
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Speaker 4: is this whole next in TV?

461
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Speaker 1: Yes, you know.

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Speaker 4: My concern is because I keep hearing that they have

463
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Speaker 4: all these APSP three boxes you can get. I'm gonna

464
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Speaker 4: have to get a new TV down the road anyway,

465
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Speaker 4: but like, do they make accessible like ATSD three boxes?

466
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Speaker 4: Like because my Rowcup TV it's talked, So that's why

467
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Speaker 4: I know what I'm doing, right, But I don't want

468
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Speaker 4: to have to pay money through the nose for a

469
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Speaker 4: box that I need somebody here to help me use.

470
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Speaker 4: I want to go to watch TV independently without needing

471
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Speaker 4: to have my goal friend whoever in the house with

472
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Speaker 4: me be like, Hey, okay, Jamie, you got to click

473
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Speaker 4: on this thing and do this thing. And I'm like,

474
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Speaker 4: I'm very impatient with stuff that is mostly.

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Speaker 1: The preciety, right, Oh, I totally get that. I mean,

476
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Speaker 1: I would say because the next gen TV stuff is

477
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Speaker 1: so new, and by the way, I'd said, I'll be

478
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Speaker 1: at CS next week They're going to have this on

479
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Speaker 1: display like they always do. This has taken a lot

480
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Speaker 1: longer to mature than I think these broadcast companies wanted,

481
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Speaker 1: and I think the take up is not as high

482
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Speaker 1: because people, you know, I don't know if you remember,

483
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Speaker 1: we all went through that digital transition with the channels,

484
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Speaker 1: so that was a big thing, and now they want

485
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Speaker 1: people to buy a different box to go to this

486
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Speaker 1: next gen TV, which is great and it has a

487
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Speaker 1: lot of cool features. I mean, they've got all these

488
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Speaker 1: enhanced features. It's almost like a mix of streaming and

489
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Speaker 1: over the air, right like it brings interactive features to

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Speaker 1: standard broadcast channels. And I'm sure the TV companies love

491
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Speaker 1: it because I bet I just have a feeling that

492
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Speaker 1: they probably get a lot more analytics from the people

493
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Speaker 1: that tune in, so like for things like ratings and stuff.

494
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Speaker 1: It's probably really good. They can also deliver data alongside

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Speaker 1: the programming and that kind of stuff. But I would

496
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Speaker 1: say these boxes are very immature, and so I don't

497
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Speaker 1: know if they have all those accessibility features. But you

498
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Speaker 1: know what, I will definitely ask when I'm there and

499
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Speaker 1: at CES and meet with these folks and see where

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Speaker 1: they're at with accessibility. But Jamie in the meantime, I

501
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: would definitely check out, you know, see if you can

502
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Speaker 1: get that antenna app again, it's called Antenna Point. It's

503
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Speaker 1: available for iOS and Android. See if that helps you

504
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Speaker 1: figure out if you can even receive the CBS channel

505
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Speaker 1: in your area, like you may not even Let's say

506
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Speaker 1: you point your antenna towards the mountain where it says

507
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Speaker 1: you still may not get it. I mean, and you

508
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: know antenna signals are you know, they can be finicky.

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Speaker 1: So great question. Thanks for the call, Really appreciate it,

510
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Speaker 1: Jamie listening in Tampa, and thanks so much today. It's

511
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: just so nice to hear from folks all over the US.

512
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Speaker 1: Here Debora rights in listening on the podcast. Hey, I've

513
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Speaker 1: got a few old printed wedding photos four by six

514
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Speaker 1: five x seven. I'd love to remove just my ex

515
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Speaker 1: from them. I've tried some free editing software. The trials

516
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: are super limited, and I don't want to sign up

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Speaker 1: or pay for anything. That's the best question. I don't

518
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Speaker 1: want to pay for anything or sign up for anything,

519
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: but I still want to be able to do this.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Deborah. The tricky part is he has

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Speaker 1: his hand around the arm of the person next to him,

522
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Speaker 1: so when I remove him, it looks like her arm

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Speaker 1: is cut off. I know there's a way to use

524
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Speaker 1: layers and patch in some skin area, but that's way

525
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Speaker 1: too complicated for me. Do you know if a simple

526
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Speaker 1: website or company that can handle this. Thanks for any advice.

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Speaker 1: I'm always listening to you. You're everywhere, Deborah. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: The good news is you do not need to pay

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Speaker 1: a dime to do this. You will not believe how

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Speaker 1: easy this is to do with Google's Gemini AI Gemini

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Speaker 1: dot Google dot com.

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00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 8: It is free.

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Speaker 1: It will do an amazing job with this. I showed

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Speaker 1: my wife yesterday. I was doing a picture for the newsletter.

535
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Speaker 1: I said, ah, I don't want to have you in

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Speaker 1: this picture, so watch me remove you. And she goes,

537
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: wait what And it was like watching like Back to

538
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: the Future, where it's just like you just get a

539
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: race from the picture instantly. Again, So scan your photo.

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00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: You can use the free Google Photo Scan app. It's quick,

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Speaker 1: it'll remove Claire. Then go to Gemini on the web

542
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: or on the app, upload the photo and all you

543
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Speaker 1: have to do is type something in like remove the man,

544
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: remove this guy that crossed me, remove this X that

545
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Speaker 1: I hate now, I'm just kidding. Google may respond with

546
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: that remove the guy with his hand on her arm,

547
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: or you can just say remove the guy from the picture.

548
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Try it. It will do it so easily,

549
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding. You will even recreate whatever parts

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Speaker 1: of the body that it's covering that you know gets erased.

551
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty pretty amazing. So try that, Deborah,

552
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Really appreciate the kind words. Super super simple.

553
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Speaker 1: You will not believe. You know, you've probably heard me

554
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Speaker 1: talk about this Google Nano Banana that is just a

555
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: nice funny name for Gemini, which is okay, let me

556
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: start at the beginning. So you've got different flavors of

557
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: AI out there. You've got Chat GBT that's an AI,

558
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: You've got Gemini, which is an AI that's from Google,

559
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: and then nano Banana pro is just a fancy way

560
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Speaker 1: of referring to the image editing technology that is built

561
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Speaker 1: into Google Gemini AI. And the way they got that name,

562
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: they didn't even it wasn't even supposed to be named that. Basically,

563
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: an engineer just put that in as like a placeholder

564
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: when they were coming up with something with this. They

565
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: were going to launch this and they said, oh this

566
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: is call it Nano Banana, and it stuck and people

567
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: started loving it. They love the name and it's really

568
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: given branding to this image generator and photo editor. So

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Speaker 1: if you have not tried this, if you have ever

570
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: used photoshop in your entire life and you've been like, oh,

571
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: like okay, here's a great example. I have had this

572
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: dream of changing signs. You know, when you see a

573
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Speaker 1: street sign or a sign on the side of the road,

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Speaker 1: or an exit sign, whatever you see a sign. I

575
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: always love in my head thinking how silly those signs

576
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: would be if they said something silly, right, almost like

577
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Speaker 1: that La movie What was it? What was the one

578
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: with Steve Martin La Story? Yeah, where like the signs

579
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Speaker 1: on the freeway had like funny things that they said

580
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: to him, Like I've always thought that was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now you have to match the font, you gotta match

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Speaker 1: the background, you gotta match everything. I tried this in

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Speaker 1: Nano Banana yesterday. I just went through probably one hundred

584
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Speaker 1: signs in my photo album and just changed them all

585
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: to silly stuff just for my own laughter. And you

586
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: can do this now, so try it. Gemini dot Google

587
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: dot com put a photo in there, ask to edit

588
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: super super simple. By the way, not to be outdone,

589
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: chatch Ebt also upgraded their image generation tool a couple

590
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and it's also gotten very good, So

591
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with either of these. I understand

592
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: it's impacting jobs, it's impacting all these people that learned photoshop,

593
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: but I mean, I didn't invent it. This is just

594
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: how we're moving forward, and it's wild. So you got

595
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: to try this stuff. Eighty eight Rich one O one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four to one

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Speaker 1: zero one. More rich on Tech coming your way right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro

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Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology. Eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Let's let's go to Jamie

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Speaker 1: in San Dimas. Jamie, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going, Rich?

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Speaker 1: It is going fantastic. How are you doing on this

605
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Speaker 1: new year?

606
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good.

607
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Speaker 6: I'm glad I finally got through to you because this

608
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 6: has been an ongoing problem that I'm hoping Apple has

609
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 6: got a solution for, but maybe not. So I have

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00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: an iPhone twelve soon to upgrade through A fifteen. But

611
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 6: I constantly when I make a phone call, if I

612
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: try to click out of the phone or something like that,

613
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: I end up hitting somebody else in my favorite contact

614
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 6: list and make another phone call. Is there any way

615
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 6: to set it up to where when a call ends,

616
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 6: that screen closes automatically.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a way to have that screen close.

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Speaker 1: But what I do is and this is the thing

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people just forget to do. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I just press the lock button on the side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I know that.

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Speaker 6: My son tells me that all the time. Just turn

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Speaker 6: the phone.

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00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I yell at my mom. I don't yell.

626
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm very nice. But there's certain people that like to

627
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: leave their screen on all the time, and they put

628
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: it in their pocket or their purse with the screen on,

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Speaker 1: and then they say, oh, my app's moved around, or

630
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Speaker 1: my home screen got rearranged, or I called someone. It's

631
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Speaker 1: all because the phone is still on. So there's really

632
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, so when you're talking you dial a person.

633
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Speaker 1: Let's say you dial someone right and then that end screen.

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00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna dial my wife real quick. She'll

635
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: probably call me back and be like, what's happening? Uh okay,

636
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: So I press end and then you're okay, it ends,

637
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: and then it goes right to that favorite screen exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And I have a tendency when I'm trying to hit

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Speaker 6: and if it doesn't end right away, right my fingers

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Speaker 6: on there is in the process of trying to hit

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Speaker 6: end again and then I'm back to the favorite.

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Speaker 1: Right and I and I've done that. I've done that

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Speaker 1: where I dial someone else or you know what happens

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00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes you dial someone and it like hangs up for

645
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: some reason really quickly, and I'm like, wait what and

646
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I press something and it immediately dials the next person.

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Speaker 4: So exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is definitely an issue. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's really Yeah, there's there's not really a way to

650
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's I just have to get into

652
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Speaker 6: muscle memory of turning off the phone.

653
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's really that's that's the best

654
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: way to do with the muscle memory. Now I'm gonna

655
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: run through a couple other ways just to kind of

656
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: set up your phone if this is always happening to you.

657
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: So number one, you know, because butt dialing is a

658
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: is a problem. People do it all the time. I mean,

659
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: it's it's just here we are in twenty twenty six

660
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: and we're still it's a It's like a problem that's

661
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: been you know, fifteen years old. So Number one, you

662
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: have to get into the habit of when you're done

663
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Speaker 1: with your phone, just press that lock button on the

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Speaker 1: side of it, the power button, whatever it does to

665
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: lock your phone. That's it. So that's number one. Some

666
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: people set their phones up. You have Android, you could

667
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: like double tap the screen to lock it. Whatever you do,

668
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: just turn it off. That's number one. A couple other

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Speaker 1: ways to make it on the iPhones that you don't

670
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: misdial someone by accident. You can disable raise to wake,

671
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: So if you you know, when you raise your iPhone,

672
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: it kind of on. It doesn't unlock it, but it

673
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: will wake it up. And when your phone's in a

674
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: wake up state, it's easier to unlock, and it's easier

675
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: for the face i D to work. So you can

676
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: go into settings and turn it off if you want

677
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: to kind of be in control. So you go to

678
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: settings and then display and brightness, and there's an option

679
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: for raise to wake turn it off. The other thing

680
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: you do. By the way, Jamie is turned the auto

681
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: lock to like thirty seconds instead of a couple of minutes.

682
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Speaker 1: I have mine on five minutes. Autolock is how long

683
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Speaker 1: your phone automatically locks, and I always recommend, by the way,

684
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Speaker 1: keeping that to a lower number in general because of

685
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: security reasons. You don't want someone to come over and

686
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: grab your phone and it's on lock for five minutes.

687
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: That would be a privacy nightmare, all right, So that's

688
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: number two. Then you've got tap to wake, so in accessibility,

689
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: you can go into settings Accessibility and then touch and

690
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: there's a tap to wake, so it says tap or

691
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: swipe to wake. You can turn that off so that'll

692
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: make your phone not wake up as much. And then

693
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: if you have a passcode, you can let's see, well,

694
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: obviously you should set a passcode. But the other one,

695
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: the other one that you may not know about, is

696
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: in settings under face ID and passcode. Let's see where

697
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: that is. That's going to ask for your passcode, So

698
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: put that in. And then there's an op shin that

699
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: says return missed calls. And see if you go in

700
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: here it says allow access while locked. There's a whole

701
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: bunch of things that your phone can actually do when

702
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: it's locked if you have these turned on, and one

703
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: of them is return miss calls. So if you're always

704
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: if you have those miss calls on your lock screen

705
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: and you put your phone in your pocket or your

706
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: jim bag or you're pressing your phone and your screen

707
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: touches your finger touches one of those missed calls, it

708
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: will dial that number. So even if your phone is locked,

709
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: because you know, Apple is trying to make things easier

710
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: for you, so you can go in and turn that

711
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: off so that you know, now, I hate to be

712
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: like a kind of like look into the dark side

713
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: of things, but there's always, you know, there's a reason

714
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: why you might want to keep that on. Let's say

715
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want to. It gets too tough.

716
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I run a lot, and so I'm always thinking if

717
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm just left dead in a ditch somewhere, if someone

718
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: has to like pick up my phone and like dial

719
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: a number from it to like call my loved ones.

720
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why I think that way,

721
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: but it's like good, you know, it's something you kind

722
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: of have to think about sometimes. But anyway, so I

723
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: always think about that, like if someone found me, like

724
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: when I go running like a foreign city, I'm like,

725
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: if someone found me in this, let's say in Tokyo,

726
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: right in Japan, someone found me here on a run,

727
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: Like literally, what would they do? They'd have to like

728
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: put my picture on TV and be like who is

729
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: this guy?

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00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 5: Right?

731
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: So I'm always like, Okay, I have to put my

732
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: my ID in my pocket because I need something that

733
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: like they can go through my pocket and be like,

734
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: all right, we found this guy. I mean, it's sad

735
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: and it's kind of weird to think that way, but

736
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: that's how my brain works. So anyway, if you find

737
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: me running, just look at my pocket, because yes, my

738
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: ID will be in there, and you'll be able to

739
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: tell who I am now getting in touch with someone

740
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: on that D I don't know how that would work

741
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: where they got to like go to the embassy and

742
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: be like, hey, can you look up the phone number

743
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: for this guy?

744
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

745
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: These are things I never want to find out, but

746
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: it's like things I think about. Eight to eight rich

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Speaker 1: one O one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Jamie, thanks for the calling demus

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Speaker 1: the website for the show rich on Tech dot T

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Speaker 1: while you're there, Definitely check out my newsletter today. I

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00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: had my first newsletter of the new year. I loved

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00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: writing it. I love writing this every week. It's it's

753
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,520
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754
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: this show, but in a newsletter, So sign up for that.

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756
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Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

757
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple

758
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Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Welcome to another year.

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00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Welcome to another year of this show. It has been

761
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: quite the ride. It's been so much fun to do this,

762
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: coming in every weekend, talking with you, going over the

763
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: news of the week. My favorite thing though is really,

764
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, anyone can tell you the news in the

765
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: tech world, but my favorite thing is when I find

766
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: the little tidbits that I tell you that are interesting

767
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: and useful and helpful. And we've had a bunch of

768
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: them over the years, so that is really what keeps

769
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: me going. And of course the feedback when I tell you,

770
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: when I tell you I can do email for an

771
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: unlimited amount of time, that is not a joke. It

772
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: is not a joke. I will send I will, I

773
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: will look at my email as soon as I do

774
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: a show, as soon as I do a newsletter, as

775
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: soon as I do a TV segment. The emails come in,

776
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: and then I reply to those emails as much as

777
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I can, and more come in. But I love it

778
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: because you know, this would not be anything if it

779
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: wasn't for you. So thank you for that, and I

780
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I'm honored that you trust what I say

781
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: and you like my recommendations. It is not lost on

782
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: me in any way. So I was saying that some

783
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: of this technology for thank you Bobo, Thank you Bobo.

784
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: Some of this.

785
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Technology they're trying to get ahead of at CS. One

786
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: of them is pretty interesting. We've actually talked to Clicks.

787
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: They're the company that makes those physical keyboard cases. They

788
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: just unveiled their first phone and it kind of looks

789
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: like where BlackBerry left off. So it's called the Clicks Communicator,

790
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: And if you go to their website Clicks dot tech,

791
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this thing looks like a BlackBerry and it's

792
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: got a screen. Let's see the specs here. It runs Android.

793
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: So the idea is that this is your second phone.

794
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: So people that are juggling like a work and personal device,

795
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: you can have this secondary device that's just focused on messaging,

796
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: email and getting things done. So it's got software that

797
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: you can have you know, Gmail on there, WhatsApp, Slack, Telegram,

798
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: in a message hub. It's got this signal light on

799
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: the side that glows different colors. Remember those Remember when

800
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: phones used to have a physical light like an led

801
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: on them that would light up when you had a

802
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: message that was the best. No, no phone has it

803
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: anymore as far as I know, So VIPs can have

804
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: a different color than your group chat. It's got a

805
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: real physical keyboard so you can type faster, and you

806
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: can also scroll. So there's a little let's see, is

807
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: there a little scroll wheel on the side. No, I

808
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I can't see the left side of

809
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: this thing, but maybe there's a scroll wheel. Let's see

810
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: what else. So the hardware has things that people I mean,

811
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: this is just wild. They put a headphone jack, micro

812
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: SD card, physical SIM plus E SIM tactical tactile tactical

813
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: tactile kill switch, so you can map that to airplane

814
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: mode or notifications whatever you want. Kind of like kind

815
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: of like the button on the the action button on

816
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the iPhone, but it's actually a real switch. It's got

817
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: Android sixteen, five years of security update, four thousand million battery,

818
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: wireless charging, fifty megapixel main camera. I'm guessing the camera

819
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: is going to be the sore spot here, but you're

820
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: not getting this for the camera.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued. I'm really intrigued. Five hundred dollars.

823
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: You can get that price down to three ninety nine,

824
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: and if you reserve it now, you can put two

825
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: hundred dollars down to reserve it for three ninety nine.

826
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Speaker 1: I know it's confusing, so if you don't do anything,

827
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay five hundred, but if you reserve it

828
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: for two hundred dollars, you'll pay four hundred. Shipping expected

829
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: later this year, I don't know. Kind of interesting. Check

830
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: it out clicks dot Tech. This will be at CS

831
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: of course. I don't know. I've kind of gotten over

832
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: the physical buttons on my phone, so I don't know

833
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: if I need this, but I think that they definitely

834
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: are coming out the product that people that have a

835
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: work phone and a personal phone could enjoy, Cause if

836
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: you just want to throw away your work phone when

837
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: you get done with work and you don't want to

838
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: deal with all the emails that come in and the

839
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: messages and things like that. You just get this phone,

840
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: put all your work stuff on it, and then you know,

841
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: hide it under a pillow when you get home, but

842
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: it's still there for when you need it. So anyway,

843
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of a neat idea. Clicks dot tech. Let's go

844
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: to let's go to Brian line for Brian in uh

845
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: oh Claire with constant.

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Speaker 8: You're on with Rich, Hey, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

847
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 8: Hopefully quick question here. I think I know the answer,

848
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 8: but uh, you know, over the holidays, usually get an

849
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 8: Amazon gift card and I'm not a huge online chopper,

850
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 8: so I usually use that to purchase my TurboTax for

851
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 8: the for the year. Sure, and I went to do

852
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 8: that this year, and I was about to download it

853
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 8: when I realized it's kind of in fine print there

854
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 8: that it says now it's only for Windows eleven and newer,

855
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 8: and I'm I'm running Windows ten on my on my

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00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 8: HP Pavilion X three sixty. They do offer an online option,

857
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 8: and I kind of poked around in there and I

858
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 8: thought it was a little bit cumbersome. I guess a

859
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 8: couple questions if if I were to download it on

860
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 8: Windows ten, woul would nothing happen? Or would it just

861
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 8: be a security risk? Or is there kind of a

862
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 8: workaround that I'd still be able to use it on

863
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 8: my the desktop or a downloaded version on my on

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Speaker 8: my HP pavilion.

865
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great question. Actually, I think someone emailed me

866
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: this question late last year and said, hey, for the

867
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: next upcoming year, you know you're not gonna be able

868
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: to run TurboTax on Windows ten. And so yeah, the

869
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: company has said that the TurboTax desktop program twenty twenty

870
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: five will require Windows eleven because there's no more. Now,

871
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: this is the interesting thing. They say this because of

872
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: security reasons, right, because Windows ten is no longer actively supported.

873
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: But the funny thing is it is sort of actively

874
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: supported by Microsoft for security updates. But I think the

875
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: problem is they can't guarantee that everyone has those updates.

876
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what the reasoning is, like why

877
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: they said you can't do this anymore. I think it's

878
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: just because they want to make a blanket. You know, Okay,

879
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: we know Windows ten is not supported in a big

880
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: way anymore. So we're just going to move forward with

881
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: Windows eleven. So that is the company line. What they're

882
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: saying is this software will not run on ten. So

883
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: and they did say that, you know, security was the

884
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: main reason. So what are your options now? Is there

885
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: some sort of hack or work around. I'm sure there is,

886
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know of that hack, nor can I

887
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: recommend that because you're talking about your taxes, you're talking

888
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: about your personal information, talking about you know, the most

889
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: personal and private and secure information you're working with as

890
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: a person. So I can't really say like, oh yeah,

891
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: I just do this and and get around that. So

892
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: I think your best option is if you you know,

893
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: you can upgrade your computer Windows eleven if that supports it.

894
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, then of course, or if you don't

895
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: want to, that's a whole nother thing. But why do

896
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: you not want to use the online thing? And I

897
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: know a lot of people like this desktop software. Is

898
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: it just because it's offline? Like, what's the reason for that.

899
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 8: I was poking around a little bit yesterday and it

900
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 8: just seemed that, I want to say glitchy, but it

901
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 8: was it was a little bit harder to read the

902
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 8: best stop version and a little bit more difficult to

903
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 8: you know, to copy and paste from like a you know,

904
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 8: a W two and from bank statements and that sort

905
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 8: of thing.

906
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, and it was it.

907
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 8: Wasn't terrible but any means, but not not as streamlined

908
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 8: as the desktop version that I was used to.

909
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, I mean I understand that I'm trying

910
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: to see here, So yeah, I mean that's okay. I'm

911
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: looking at Reddit right now, and you know, some people

912
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: are discussing this, of course, and it is interesting because

913
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: people said, well, hold on, now that we have these

914
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: security updates to October twenty twenty six, why can't they

915
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: support it? Like, come on, people are you know, if

916
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: you if you're doing that extension. So I would say

917
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: you're probably going to be unless TurboTax changes their mind.

918
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: You're probably stuck using the online system. You can also

919
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: switch to a different app, but of course that's a

920
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: pain because I'm sure all your data is in this app, right.

921
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: That's correct.

922
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would say, now here's my other question.

923
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: If you're using the desktop app, does your data follow

924
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: through to the online app?

925
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 8: You can you can upload the you know, the file

926
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 8: from your from your from your from the browser and

927
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 8: it will you can you can transfer it over.

928
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so that's probably what you're gonna be stuck

929
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: with doing, Brian. I know you said you thought you

930
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: knew the answer before you call it. I think that's

931
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: really you know, the only other thing that would be Yeah,

932
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: there is a thing where you can like write click

933
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: on an app on Windows and do like compatibility mode,

934
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: but I think that's only for backwards compatibility, so if

935
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: you're running it, you know, if you wanted to run

936
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: on an older version or something like that. But I

937
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna be able to get around this

938
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: unless TurboTax changes something. I will keep an eye on this.

939
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: It's definitely something that a lot of people are chatting about,

940
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to impact more people. Were

941
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: only a couple of days into January, so I think

942
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: people are going to be discovering this as we move

943
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: into January, and maybe the more people that are vocal

944
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: about it, the more that TurboTax into it might have

945
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: a change of heart. But right now, that is what

946
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: the company says, that's what they're doing. I'll be honest.

947
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: I use TurboTax for a long time. I now use

948
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: this app called fly fin, which you know I don't.

949
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to change what you use,

950
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: but I love this app and I already got to

951
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: sign my CPA to do my taxes and it's I

952
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: used it last year, I used it the year before.

953
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: It's incredible. If you are even if you are not

954
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: a person that is a freelancer or whatever, you have

955
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: a lot of deductions. This app is just so cool.

956
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: I love it because it's like high tech. So basically,

957
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: you connect all of your accounts. It looks at all

958
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: of your transactions and you classify them. It helps with AI.

959
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: It'll say like, oh, we think this is a business

960
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: expense or even a you know, if you don't have

961
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: a business, just your personal expense, you know, But you

962
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: have to get past that whatever it is, like the

963
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars that you get. You know, I'm not

964
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: a tax expert, but I know there's like some sort

965
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: of threshold for your deductions. But anyway, it's really good.

966
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the year, you literally

967
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: just someone they assign you a CPA and then they

968
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: just do your taxes for you. And I will tell

969
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: you that last year, I did get like a disclaimer

970
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: that said, you know, just so you know your your

971
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: CPA is overseas, like they're not based in the US.

972
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't know. I mean everything

973
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: is overseas now, right. I mean, it doesn't mean that

974
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: this person is not any more qualified or less qualified

975
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: to do this, but you know that that was a reality.

976
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: I think that was the only warning I saw. I

977
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the same as this year. I

978
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: didn't see that warning, but just so you know, you know,

979
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: that's probably how they're doing it for a much better

980
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: price tag than some of these other things. But and

981
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: I've tried the live CPA assist on Turbo tax and

982
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I wasn't as impressed with that. But anyway,

983
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: by you know who likes taxes anyway, not no one

984
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I've ever met except CPA's. They kind of like them,

985
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: but they're making a lot of money off of them.

986
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: Eighty to eight rich one on one eight eight eight

987
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one back after this, Oh,

988
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: this one's a slow burn. Okay, wait for it? Is

989
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: this the right now song? Okay? This will forever? Is

990
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: this right here? Right now, right, Okay, I think this

991
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: was the Crystal Pepsi song. Look up on YouTube Crystal Pepsi?

992
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: Is this van Helen?

993
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 8: Okay?

994
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen ninety two Crystal Pepsi Van Halen. They did

995
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: a commercial I think it was on Saturday Night Live

996
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh gosh, now I'm forgetting if

997
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: it was the actual commercial or just the Saturday Night

998
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Live version. Anyway, they did a version on Saturday Night

999
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: Live that was Crystal gravy. I will never forget as

1000
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: a kid just seeing that, and I love Crystal pepsi.

1001
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: It was like the clear Pepsi. I was like, hey,

1002
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: how did they make pepsi clear?

1003
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 7: Oh?

1004
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Because it's all chemicals and fake That's how eight to

1005
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one eighty eight seven four to

1006
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Christine has been waiting patiently

1007
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: at Huntington Beach with her question. I don't know if

1008
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I can help, because I can't. I don't understand what

1009
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: it says on my screen here, But I will, I will,

1010
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: I will attempt. What can I help you with?

1011
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: Oh?

1012
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 10: Hi, happy to be here, rich and Bobo, and thank

1013
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 10: you for taking my calm. And I just want to

1014
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 10: tell you I'm always learning from you, and I'm always

1015
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 10: replaying your podcast to learn to learn more all the time.

1016
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: So oh my gosh, I feel so bad for you replaying.

1017
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean, listening to it once is worse enough for

1018
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: some people.

1019
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: No, no, it's good.

1020
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 10: I learned a lot. So okay, So I have never

1021
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 10: had this happen to me before. So last week I

1022
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 10: have a laptop and it's Microsoft based, and I went

1023
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 10: to restart my computer and then when the screen came up,

1024
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 10: you know you put in your credentials, like you put

1025
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 10: your password in. Well I put it in, and it

1026
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 10: kept saying Microsoft, your log off of your offline with Microsoft.

1027
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 10: So I thought, well, that's really weird. So maybe I

1028
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 10: didn't type it right.

1029
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: So I typed it.

1030
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 10: I typed it several times, constantly just kept telling me

1031
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 10: I was offline with Microsoft. I couldn't open up. It

1032
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 10: literally locked me out of my computer. I couldn't open

1033
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 10: up any screens. I couldn't go to Google to like

1034
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 10: start typing the thin to figure out what it's wrong

1035
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 10: with my right whatever. So I thought, okay, well, let

1036
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 10: me just go to my phone. So I went to

1037
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 10: my phone, I typed in Microsoft, went in there found it,

1038
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 10: put my credentials in, and then it started asking me

1039
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 10: a series of questions and one thing I couldn't get around.

1040
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 10: And I don't know if you call it a it

1041
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 10: gave me a single use code or maybe you call

1042
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 10: it a pass key. I couldn't get around that because anyways,

1043
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 10: because I think I remember you saying something like don't

1044
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 10: don't take a pass key because I could.

1045
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 4: Goof you up or something.

1046
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 10: But I have to go back and listen to that podcast.

1047
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 10: So anyways, after like trying to figure this out for

1048
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 10: a couple of hours, I ended up logging in on

1049
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 10: my phone with Microsoft directly, and it ended up I

1050
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 10: was able to get into my computer. It was the

1051
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 10: strangest thing I've never had this happen. And I've you know,

1052
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 10: been having computers for over thirty years and always dealing

1053
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 10: with Microsoft. So have you ever heard of this happening before?

1054
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think what I think what it sounds to

1055
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: me that you basically so Microsoft, for some reason, they

1056
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: really like an internet connection when you're logging on to

1057
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: like verify the account unless you're using a local account.

1058
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: So and some people kind of have a work like Basically,

1059
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: Microsoft wants everything to be done online at this point, right,

1060
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: like they want everything to be you know, a Microsoft

1061
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: account and when you sign in, it's checking against the

1062
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: online account. So that sounds like it sounds like two

1063
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: things were happening. Number one, it could have been a coincidence.

1064
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: Has this happened again, No, it happened.

1065
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 10: Happened since last week.

1066
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if when you logged in, your computer

1067
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: was offline, like it just you know, sometimes these things happen,

1068
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: and your computer was just happened to be offline at

1069
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: that moment and it couldn't log in, and then when

1070
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: you went to your phone, it did log in because

1071
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: your phone, you know, either your WiFi was fine there

1072
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: or the connection was there, or you're you know, you're

1073
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: on cellular whatever, and you're able to log in there.

1074
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: The thing that's confusing to me is the one time passcode.

1075
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: So did you were you able to log into your

1076
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: computer the regular way at the end?

1077
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I was, and I was able to do it. And

1079
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 10: I kept checking my because I have a euro Wi

1080
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 10: Fi or system in my house based on your recommendations,

1081
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 10: so I kept looking at it.

1082
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: It was lit.

1083
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 10: It wasn't offline or anything. It was and I kept

1084
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 10: looking at my computer to see that the Wi Fi

1085
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 10: signal was up and I was connected. It was just

1086
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 10: the strangest thing, and I can never.

1087
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Have that happen.

1088
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's here's an easy way to try this again.

1089
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you want to put yourself

1090
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: through this pain again, but you could, uh, you know,

1091
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: either turn off your Wi Fi or if your if

1092
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: your computer is connected via Ethernet, you can just pull

1093
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: that cable and see if you get that same error

1094
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: and then you know that like it was just a

1095
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: one time thing because your phone wasn't online. So that's

1096
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: one way. But but I don't know if you want

1097
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: to do that, because you know, I know, once things

1098
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: are working in the tech world, you don't really want

1099
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: to mess them up again. But in the future, if

1100
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: this happens again, you might be able to do what's

1101
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: called a local account and set up like a local

1102
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: login for this computer just to still get in even

1103
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: if you you know, can't get in with the with

1104
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: the Wi Fi situation. And then at the end of

1105
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: the day, there's something called safe mode which you can

1106
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: boot into that and you can see, you know, if

1107
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: that if that can help you at least get into

1108
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: your computer. But it sounds like this was just a

1109
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: fluke to me. Yeah, and the one time code and

1110
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff, I think was just I don't think

1111
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: anyone hacked you. I don't. I think that this was

1112
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: a fluke and it just maybe at the moment your

1113
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: computer was not connected, at the second it logged on

1114
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: or something like that.

1115
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 10: Well, And I was also thinking, like not to even

1116
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 10: have a password to even get into my laptop.

1117
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 4: Just I was thinking that, like, I don't.

1118
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't recommend that, dog you down. Do not recommend that, no,

1119
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: because I mean, it's just too you know, with everything

1120
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: we store on these computers. Even if you say, oh,

1121
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: I just leave my computer at home, it's not a

1122
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: big deal. I don't try. I just I can't in

1123
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: good faith tell people to not have a passcode on

1124
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: their computer or password on you know, passcode on their phone,

1125
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: password on their computer. There's too much stuff on there,

1126
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: and you know, you just don't want this to get

1127
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: into the wrong hands. Thanks to the call, Christine, really

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Speaker 1: appreciate the kind words there and huntingdon be eighty eight

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00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: rich one on one. Coming up, we're gonna talk with

1130
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Speaker 1: the author of the subtle art of not giving a

1131
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: you know what? Right here, I'm rich on Tech. Welcome

1132
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech, rich DeMuro here hanging out

1133
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: with you, Talking technology triple eight rich one O one

1134
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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

1135
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Speaker 1: Some more news trickling out of the prelude to CS

1136
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Samsung is bringing Google Photos to its

1137
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: Samsung TVs and twenty twenty six, which is interesting and

1138
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: that's great, But hey, Google, let's make a Google Photos

1139
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: app for all TVs, right, Samsung, Roku, Apple TV, Fire TV,

1140
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: where is the app? Come on, I got all my

1141
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: photos in there. I want to see him on my

1142
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: big screen. And now I can call it Apple too,

1143
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: because they don't have an Apple Photos app for anything

1144
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: except Apple TV. But you know, and yes, you can

1145
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: cast your photos, but I want a native app that

1146
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: I can just have on my screen anyway. So that's

1147
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: something we'll be checking out. Samsung bringing Google Photos to

1148
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: Samsung TV's twenty twenty six models first, and then some

1149
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: of the older devices will get them as well. Here's

1150
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: what I love about my job, Here's what I love

1151
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: about my shows. I've read this book when it came

1152
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: out and I can't believe it's been this long, by

1153
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: the way, and I never thought I'd actually interview the

1154
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: author of this book, but yet here we are Mark

1155
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: Manson on the phone. He's got a new app called Purpose.

1156
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: He's the author of the I got to figure out

1157
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: how to say this on the radio, the subtle art

1158
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: of not giving. Can I say an F I guess

1159
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: I just did Mark, Welcome to the show, be here,

1160
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. So was it really released in

1161
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen? I know, man, we're coming up. It's going

1162
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: to be ten years this year. That's wild. I mean,

1163
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: this was so I'll never forget reading this book. And

1164
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I had like a little and I'm sure you've heard many,

1165
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: many stories about how this affected people's lives, but I

1166
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: had a little extra swagger in my step after reading

1167
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: this book. I'm like, you know what, I don't care

1168
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: about anything anymore. Yeah, yeah, those were the days. Similar days.

1169
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: So how has life changed in the wake of this book?

1170
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: So you wrote this obviously bestseller, did anything you know?

1171
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: Did your perspective change on anything? Because so many people

1172
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: are now suddenly coming to you for this type of advice.

1173
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: I it's interesting because in hindsight.

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00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 9: I didn't think about this at the time, but looking back,

1175
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 9: you know, ten years into the past, I do think

1176
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 9: one of the reasons it did so well is that

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Speaker 9: it was one of the first books to name something

1178
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 9: that everybody was experiencing. So if you think about the

1179
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 9: early twenty tens, Facebook released its newsfeed.

1180
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Speaker 1: I believe in twenty twelve.

1181
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 9: Social media Instagram came out twenty eleven, like social media

1182
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 9: really started to take off, like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,

1183
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 9: and and so that's when you start getting this like

1184
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 9: these ideas of fomo and social media and douced anxiety

1185
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 9: and all this stuff. And so I think the just

1186
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 9: the message of the book about being noticing what is

1187
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 9: worth caring about and what's not worth caring about. I

1188
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 9: think it caught really the struggle of our generation at

1189
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 9: a very very early And so when I when I

1190
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 9: look back over those ten years, I'm like, Okay, now

1191
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 9: it kind of makes sense why it did so well.

1192
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 9: But at the time I was just like, oh my god,

1193
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 9: that's a lot of book sales. Yeah, you've got a

1194
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 9: new app called Purpose. It's an AI coaching app. Explain

1195
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 9: what this app is all about. So the app is

1196
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 9: designed to help people find direction and clarity in their life.

1197
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Speaker 9: The best way to describe it is, I don't.

1198
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Know about if you've done this, but.

1199
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Speaker 9: The recent survey show that almost fifty percent of chat

1200
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 9: GBT users use chat GPT for life advice. They asked

1201
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 9: personal questions they give them, you know, I'm having an

1202
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 9: argument with my spouse or I want to make a

1203
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 9: career change, and they're using They're starting to use AI.

1204
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: For these sorts of questions. I've heard people gotten divorced

1205
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: because of it, Like they're like, oh, you should divorce

1206
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: your wife and they're like, okay, sure, I'll do.

1207
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 9: It's it's actually crazy, Like there's some crazy stuff that's

1208
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 9: been happening around this.

1209
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: And I first this landed on my radar about a

1210
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: year ago.

1211
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 9: I started running into a number of people in my

1212
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 9: personal life who are like, hey, I'm using chat GPT

1213
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 9: as a therapist. And I was like, huh, So I

1214
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 9: went to it and I started testing it out. And

1215
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 9: the problem, which is pretty well documented at this point,

1216
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 9: is that the foundational AI models like they don't they're

1217
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 9: psycho fantic. They kiss your butt, they don't challenge you,

1218
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 9: they don't disagree with you. You know, if I go

1219
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 9: to chat GPT and I tell it that I'm the

1220
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 9: Queen of England and I should conquer the world, like,

1221
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 9: it's probably not going to push back. It's probably just

1222
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 9: going to start helping me come up with, you know,

1223
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 9: whatever I want to come with.

1224
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: My wife, and my wife and I joke about this

1225
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: all the time, so like any idea you have, Oh,

1226
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Oh I just said it's going

1227
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: to mix you know, vinegar and whatever. It doesn't even matter.

1228
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, this is great. It's like okay, yeah,

1229
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: can I get a real independent perspective here? Okay, So

1230
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: we know the problem. That's that's the problem. These things

1231
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: are just kissing up to everyone.

1232
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1233
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 9: And the issue is that ultimately, these these AI models,

1234
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 9: they're designed to be assistance. And what does an assistant do.

1235
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 9: An assistant says yes to everything anything you ask. Yeah,

1236
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 9: I can do that anything you want. Yeah, sure you

1237
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 9: should have that. So I started thinking of like, okay,

1238
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 9: they're really if people are already going to be doing this,

1239
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 9: then there needs to be some sort of AI on

1240
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 9: the market that that is at least going to challenge

1241
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 9: your assumptions, question your beliefs, you know, kind of poke

1242
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 9: at some blind spots because ultimately, like that is what

1243
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 9: good coaching or therapy is. Is it somebody who can

1244
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 9: reflect back to the things that you're missing or not seeing.

1245
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 9: So I met my co founder.

1246
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 5: I was looking to.

1247
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 9: Like invest in a startup that was working on something

1248
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 9: like this, and that's when I met my co founder

1249
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 9: about a year ago, and he's been building AI products

1250
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 9: for over ten years, and we just said, screw it,

1251
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 9: why don't why don't we make it?

1252
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: And so okay, so you've got this app, So explain

1253
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: kind of like if you're using let's say you're already

1254
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: using chatchybt for like everything, you know, questions answers. What

1255
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: does purpose do differently, like what is it? What does

1256
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: it bring to the table that chatchybe doesn't. I would

1257
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: say the first thing it does is that it is

1258
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: it is designed to be challenging. It's designed to question

1259
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: your assumptions. One of the things that people notice right

1260
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: away with it is that it if you go to

1261
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: it and you say, like I want to lose ten pounds,

1262
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, chatchybt will will give you like a die,

1263
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: a plan and a workout routine purpose will say, why

1264
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: do you want to lose ten pounds? What is it

1265
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: about the ten pounds that you think is going to

1266
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: make you happy?

1267
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 7: Right?

1268
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: It's there?

1269
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 9: Is there another is this being motivated by something that's healthy?

1270
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 9: Or are you like feeling insecure for some reason? And

1271
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 9: so it looks it always tries to look a layer deeper.

1272
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 9: The second thing that it does is that it has

1273
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 9: I mean, we've worked really hard on the memory system.

1274
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 9: Like the problem with the memory of most AI models

1275
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 9: at the moment is that they can't sort by importance. Right,

1276
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 9: so chat GBT knows that you you know, your probably

1277
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 9: your mother's name, and the city you grew up in.

1278
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 9: It also knows what TV stand you bought last month

1279
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 9: or the the issue you had with your car last week.

1280
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 9: It doesn't understand that those are two completely different things.

1281
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 9: That one memory, your memory of your mother, is far

1282
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 9: more important and close to your identity than what TV

1283
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 9: stand you bought last month. And so we've tried to

1284
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 9: build a memory that will rank and prioritize the importance

1285
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 9: of memory so that it like understands that you know,

1286
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 9: it won't get fixated on some like random detail of

1287
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 9: your life and and start to start over indexing on

1288
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 9: the advice that it gives. And then the last thing

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Speaker 9: that we've really focused on is just personality, Like it's

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Speaker 9: I've been writing in this space for twenty years. I've

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Speaker 9: been very successful, you know, communicating a lot of these

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Speaker 9: ideas to people, and so the goal was to really

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Speaker 9: just like give it a little bit of flavor, personality,

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Speaker 9: some fun like a make it tonally and stylistically a

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Speaker 9: little bit different.

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Speaker 1: Than a normal AI that you would talk to. So

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Speaker 1: the website for the app is purpose dot app. If

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Speaker 1: you want to see what we're talking about here, Purpose

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Speaker 1: dot app. So would you consider this therapy?

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Speaker 9: Is it a journal? Is it something in between? Like

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Speaker 9: who do you think need this? And why it's not

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Speaker 9: We're definitely not going after therapy. We actually consciously chose

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Speaker 9: to kind of stay out of the therapy world for

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Speaker 9: a couple of reasons. One is just I think it's

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Speaker 9: higher stakes and I think this technology is still.

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Speaker 1: So new that it's not.

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Speaker 9: I don't like, I don't want to be making these

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Speaker 9: grand tests on people who are very psychologically vulnerable. I

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Speaker 9: think that that the technology really just needs to be

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Speaker 9: worked on quite a bit more before we like put

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Speaker 9: it in these high stake situations, so we're more focused

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Speaker 9: on kind of the coaching mentorship side of things, more

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Speaker 9: of the personal growth, personal development. I jokingly call it

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Speaker 9: the high quality problems. It's it's like if you want

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Speaker 9: to get a raise at work this year, or if

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Speaker 9: you're struggling to figure out whether you should stay in

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Speaker 9: a relationship or not. It's basically problems that normal, well

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Speaker 9: functioning adults, everyday people struggle with. But it's not like

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Speaker 9: a major emotional crisis. It's not like a psychiatric issue.

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Speaker 1: Anything like that.

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Speaker 9: For those things and and for those things purposes, it

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Speaker 9: is trained to tell you to go seek a professional.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So would you is it almost it's not really

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Speaker 1: life coaching or it almost is like life coaching, but

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Speaker 1: you don't want to you don't want to frame it

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Speaker 1: in these things. It's more of like a helpful app.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it is weird because it is new territory, right,

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Speaker 9: So on the one hand, it is I think probably

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Speaker 9: the closest thing in the human world that it would

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Speaker 9: compare to is life coaching. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 9: like I mean, you can use it for all sorts

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Speaker 9: of different things. I mean it's we we get people

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Speaker 9: who uh, you know, use it to just bounce ideas

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Speaker 9: off of as they're going throughout their day. We get

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Speaker 9: people who are like, if they're bored on their commute,

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Speaker 9: they just pull it up and talk to it. So

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Speaker 9: like it is, I do feel like AI is going

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Speaker 9: to inhabit a lot of different categories that like we

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Speaker 9: haven't really that don't don't exist.

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Speaker 1: Among humans, and I imagine that this product is no different.

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Speaker 1: So you've got the app, You've got a seven day

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Speaker 1: free trial. It's twenty dollars a month or one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty for the year. The question that I think

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Speaker 1: people are going to be asking themselves is, hey, how

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Speaker 1: is this better than my chat GBT or how is

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Speaker 1: this better than chatting with Gemini or whoever they're using?

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Speaker 1: And what's your answer to that? What are they going

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Speaker 1: to get out of this that they don't get.

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Speaker 9: You're going to get a higher, higher signal to noise ratio,

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Speaker 9: and you're going to get it much faster. I would

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Speaker 9: just I always encourage people and like, just download it,

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Speaker 9: try it for like twenty minutes. Generally speaking, people are

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Speaker 9: blown away within the first conversation.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is it's eerie.

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Speaker 9: How like we've got an onboarding process where we kind

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Speaker 9: of pull some personality traits and learn a little bit

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Speaker 9: about you. And it is shocking sometimes how dead on

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Speaker 9: the AI is in that first conversation. So I would

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Speaker 9: just encourage people to give it a shot, and if

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Speaker 9: it feels weird or it's not for you, that's totally fine.

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Speaker 1: But he there, let us know what you think. They're

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Speaker 1: playing me off purpose dot app. Mark Manson, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Rich all right, purpose dot app. Hey you heard them?

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Speaker 1: Download it? Try it, see what you think you know,

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Speaker 1: get some life changing insights. Eight eight eight rich one

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Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. The

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Speaker 1: website for the show is rich on Tech dot tv

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Speaker 1: if you're going there to grab that app. We were

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Speaker 1: just talking about purpose or I was able to find

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Speaker 1: the official TurboTax letter from let's see who was it?

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Speaker 1: The vice president of Turbo Tax that talked about their

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Speaker 1: decision to not support Windows ten and They do address

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Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of people are getting the

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Speaker 1: extended software updates, and they understand that, but they still

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Speaker 1: say that, you know what, it's just too risky to

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Speaker 1: use this system. So they've got a whole letter if

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Speaker 1: you want to read all about that. Rich on tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv again the whole turbo tax. The new TurboTax

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Speaker 1: software is not going to work on a Windows ten

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Speaker 1: computer this year. So if you did an upgrade or

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Speaker 1: you didn't, you know, you're not using Windows eleven, You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to run that. You got to

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Speaker 1: use the online software. Let's go to Vivian in Menefee.

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Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I enjoy listening to your show, Thank you, but

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Speaker 7: I have a very serious.

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Speaker 4: With my email.

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Speaker 7: It's an email I don't like and it seems like

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Speaker 7: it's sub fixed in one because it has all these

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Speaker 7: giggles on it to your amount where you can't read nothing,

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Speaker 7: and every time I tried to delete it, it comes back.

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Speaker 1: So you're trying to get rid of this this So

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Speaker 1: you're you're getting a phishing email and it's you're deleting

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Speaker 1: it and it's coming back. Is it the same exact sender?

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Speaker 1: Or is it different senders it's the same okay, same center. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you can. If it's the same sender, I would recommend

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Speaker 1: blocking the sender. So on whatever email app you have,

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: there is typically a way to block a sender with

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Speaker 1: a specific email address. Now you have to understand that

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Speaker 1: most of the time when you're getting spam emails or

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Speaker 1: a phishing email, they are coming from different addresses. But

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Speaker 1: if this email keeps coming back from the same person

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Speaker 1: with the same address, you can block that. And the

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Speaker 1: way to do that is just Google, Yahoo, you know,

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Speaker 1: block email sender and you know it'll give you the

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Speaker 1: directions for whatever your email address is. So if you're

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Speaker 1: using Outlook, just say Outlook block email sender. If you

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Speaker 1: using Gmail, block out block sender. Apple lets you do

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Speaker 1: it on their phone. But whatever software you're using, you

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Speaker 1: either have to use the block or you can create

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Speaker 1: a filter that will just automatically filter that message into oblivion.

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Speaker 1: But Vivian, I would be careful. You know, if this

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Speaker 1: phishing email, I mean they're very common, so if you're

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Speaker 1: getting this, it's no real indication of your security. But

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Speaker 1: if they're using anything or they include anything in that

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Speaker 1: email that is personal, that you're still using. Like let's

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Speaker 1: say they say, oh, you have your password, and they

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Speaker 1: tell you what it is. A lot of times these

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Speaker 1: emails will scrape data that they find on the web,

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: especially from data breaches, and they will include that information

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Speaker 1: in the email to make it seem more legitimate. But

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Speaker 1: do not be swayed by that. These people, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're just phishing. That's where this term phishing email came from.

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: They're literally just throwing casting a wide net and hoping

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Speaker 1: to catch folks in it that are, you know, not

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01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: reading closely or not reading carefully, or they're scared, or

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: they're worried and they click a link, or they give

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Speaker 1: over their information, whatever it is. So that's the best

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Speaker 1: way to do it. You can also report as spam

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Speaker 1: in your email program and that will help you as well. Now, additionally,

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Speaker 1: I would do some things to keep your information from

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Speaker 1: getting out there. So, for instance, when you sign up

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: on websites you know that are just for advertising emails

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01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: and things like that, use the different email address. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned bitwarden a bunch on this show. One of the

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Speaker 1: other things I like about them is that you can

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Speaker 1: use it to generate usernames that still send to your email.

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01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: So if you have Gmail, you know, Gmail lets you

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,879
Speaker 1: do this thing where you can say your Gmail address

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Speaker 1: plus and put a plus sign there and then at

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: the end put a bunch of random letters, and whatever

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: that email address is, it will still come to your email,

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: so you can use that as a first line of defense.

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01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: And when you sign up for a website, you can

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01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: just sign up with a with a plus to email address,

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: and that way you can just filter that email address

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: to the trash when you don't want to get that

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: email anymore. Most of the big companies will respect your

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: wishes to to not get their emails once you're done.

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: But the phishing emails are different because they're not These

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: are not like a legitimate company that's sending you this.

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: These are just scam artists, so be very careful. I

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Speaker 1: also do a thing where I do not load the

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Speaker 1: images on my email program. So if you go into

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Speaker 1: your settings, you might see a setting that says remote

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Speaker 1: image loading, so you can turn that off. And what

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Speaker 1: that does is anyone that's using a system to track

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Speaker 1: when you open your email, they will not be able

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01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: to tell that you open that email. And I tested

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Speaker 1: this out with my friend the other day, we were

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Speaker 1: out to lunch and he said, oh, you superhuman. I

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Speaker 1: can tell when you open my email. I said, not mine.

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Speaker 1: I said, let's try it. He sent an email and

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Speaker 1: it said, uh, you know, sent a rich And then

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Speaker 1: he said, did you open it yet? And I showed

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Speaker 1: him on my phone, Yeah, it's open, and on his

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Speaker 1: thing is still said not opened. Because these email programs

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Speaker 1: that people use to track you, they've got a little

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Speaker 1: tiny tracking pixel and the way they can track that

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Speaker 1: you've opened their email is that image loads on your

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Speaker 1: end and as soon as it loads, their server says,

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Speaker 1: oh he just loaded that image. You opened the email.

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Speaker 1: When you turn off external images, that can't happen. So

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Speaker 1: that's another line of defense. I'll link that up in

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Speaker 1: eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Also at the website, you

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Speaker 1: can email me. Just go to rich on tech dot tv,

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: hit contact up at the top, and your email makes

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Speaker 1: it right to my screen. We do something at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show called Feedbag, which is a combination

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Speaker 1: of feedback and the mail bag, where I kind of

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01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: read all the things that you email me throughout the week,

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: all the different little topics and things, and then of

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: course the questions that you email me. Some of those

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Speaker 1: become topics for this show as well, Samsung is gonna

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Speaker 1: come out with a two hundred dollars, a two hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars smartphone. It's called the Galaxy, a seventeen to five

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Speaker 1: G affordable five G smartphone, big screen six point seven

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Speaker 1: inch ammal ed display. It's got a smooth refresh rate

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: ninety hertz, which is not the highest, but it's not

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Speaker 1: the lowest. That's good. It's a good middle ground, so

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Speaker 1: good for scrolling, good for video. It's got a you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty megapixel camera with better low light photos, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of other budget phones apparently according to Samsung. I

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Speaker 1: haven't tested this personally yet. Battery is five thousand million

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Speaker 1: amp hours. That's huge. It'll recharge fifty percent in thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: And here is the best part. Samsung is promising six

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Speaker 1: years of security updates and Android updates. So you're talking

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Speaker 1: six years for a budget phone that costs just two

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Speaker 1: hundred bucks. That's incredible. And it's got some AI features.

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Speaker 1: So I have not tested this phone, but I love

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Speaker 1: the fact that we have choices. Not everyone wants a

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars phone. Some people just want a good phone

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Speaker 1: for a couple hundred dollars. This is something that you

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Speaker 1: could buy unlocked and use without a monthly payment and

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Speaker 1: use and it's cheap and it gets the job done,

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Speaker 1: and it's not a lot of times these budget basic

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: phones are horrible. Yeah, you can get a phone for

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Speaker 1: one hundred bucks unlocked on Amazon and guess what, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be terrible. It's gonna be bloatwear city. The screen's

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: not gonna be good, the camera's gonna all cloudy and nasty.

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Speaker 1: So I love that these companies, and I include Apple

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: and this as well, they're using their size to their

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01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: advantage at this point because they're coming out with these

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01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: high end technologies that two or three years later are

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: still really good, but the price has come down on them,

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: and so they could put them in a phone like

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Speaker 1: the A seventeen to five G and come out with

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Speaker 1: it at two hundred bucks. And I love it because

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Speaker 1: now you can have a phone that actually works and

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: it's really good for a price that is not extravagant

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01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: for you know, or out of reach for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. So that's coming out on January seventh. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: I'll get a review unit on that one. I have

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Speaker 1: to because I want to try that out. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Melissa in Los Angeles. Melissa, you're on with Rich?

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Speaker 11: Yes, thank you for taking my call. I have a

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,480
Speaker 11: question regarding the floppy beast okay, because they're absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Now where can it go?

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 11: Because I have certain family photos in there and certain

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01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 11: documents that I want to transfer to my computer? So

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 11: where do you know where I can go to have

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Speaker 11: that done? Because I don't have anymore away, I don't

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Speaker 11: know a way how to.

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Speaker 1: They're so obsolete, what they don't What kind of discs

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: are we talking? Are we talking like a five and

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Speaker 1: a quarter inch floppy or three and a half inch?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: How what kind of discs are we talking about here?

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Speaker 11: Remember those square ones the floppy discs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the true floppy like it's big and like

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just no.

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Speaker 11: They're small.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is so it's okay.

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Speaker 11: Like in the seventies up to the late nineties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's the smaller ones, but they're they're hardshell

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Speaker 1: kind of like they're they're not flexible.

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Speaker 11: No, they're not flexible. And then there's small square got it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a three and a half inch floppy disk? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean you call it a floppy even though it's not,

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: but technically it's. Yeah. Do you have a computer, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's.

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Speaker 11: Macair.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I know it doesn't have a drive on it.

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Speaker 1: But you can order a floppy drive on Amazon, like

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01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: a USB one for about twenty bucks.

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Speaker 6: What do you call it?

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01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 11: Floppy disk drive?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so look on Amazon for something, look for a

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Speaker 1: three point five inch USB floppy disk drive, or you

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: just say, just say here, let me just see if

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Speaker 1: I type in three point five inch USB disk drive,

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Speaker 1: let me see if that brings it up.

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Speaker 11: We would I would also need what do you call

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Speaker 11: that a cable right to cook it up.

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01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll it'll come with a cable. The only thing

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01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: that you may need is and it looks like it

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Speaker 1: comes with it, so your computer may have USB C

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Speaker 1: it's called this. This comes with a U B A,

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01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: but it looks like it comes with a connector, so

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Speaker 1: you basically and and the beauty of Amazon is that

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Speaker 1: you can try this put your disc in there. I

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Speaker 1: can't guarantee that your your computer is going to read

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Speaker 1: this disc, but if it does, you know, you just

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Speaker 1: copy these over to a cloud drive or you know,

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Speaker 1: at the very if it's a jpeg. Obviously it's going

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01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: to be fine because that's a universal format. But if

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Speaker 1: it's in some funky format from the the earlier days

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01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: of things, you may have to convert it. And there's

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01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: a million websites that can help you do that as well.

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Speaker 1: One of them is called vert v e r T

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Speaker 1: dot s H vert dot r T. Yeah, V like convert,

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Speaker 1: you know, but v e r T dot s H.

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Speaker 1: And so if you run into a document or a

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Speaker 1: file that I mean this one. When I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: these the image files that it can convert, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I've never even heard of half of these, So you

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Speaker 1: should be good there. So if these come up in

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Speaker 1: some kind of weird format, even if your computer won't

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: read them, uh even if it sees it but it

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01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: can't open it, just copy them over to your your

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: hard drive, and then you can upload them to this

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01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: website and it will convert them into a format that

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01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: a modern computer can see, like a JPEG, or if

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: it's a document, you know, it can convert them into

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: a word doc or a whatever you need, and then

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01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: you can save them. And I would of course recommend

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Speaker 1: saving them to the cloud so that you don't lose

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Speaker 1: them in the future. But I would just look on

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Speaker 1: Amazon for a USB floppy disk drive three point five

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01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: and that should get you there. If not, if you

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable doing this, you could just go on

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01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: Yelp and look for something like a data doctor or

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01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: something like that in your area and they may have

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: a computer or a system that can accommodate these old

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Speaker 1: media formats.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if there's anyone.

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Speaker 1: Around, well you're in Lost, Well, if you're in Los Angeles,

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: there definitely there's a lot of people can do this.

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01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: So if you do, like a data recovery or something

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01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: like that, specialist, they should have a computer that they

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01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: can that they can use to get these things. And

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01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: if they don't, they they'll know how to do it.

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01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: At least. Now, of course, you're gonna have to pay

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Speaker 1: someone to do that, which is, you know, not ideal

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01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: because you can do all this yourself hopefully. You know,

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Speaker 1: the modern computers these days, they don't have any of

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01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: these connectors. You know, we used to have a floppy drive.

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01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: We used to have a DV drive, a DVD drive,

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: a CD drive. None of that stuff is on today's

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01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, most of the laptops for sure, some of

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01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: the desktops have them, but you know, it's just getting

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: rareer and rarer because everything's everything's done with the cloud.

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01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 1: And if if the phone makers had their way, and

1650
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: this may be happening, Melissa, is that they don't want

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: any inputs on these phones whatsoever. You know, even that

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01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: the thing where you plug in your power cable at

1653
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: the bottom, they want to get rid of that too,

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01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 1: because the more we can move people to the cloud.

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: Guess what, the more you know, it's it's better for

1656
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: security on the on the on the pro side, on

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01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: the flip side, it's better for their business because guess what.

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01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: Now you got to use their software to transfer things

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01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: to your phone. You've got to store stuff in their cloud,

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01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's just one less way for

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: you to kind of open up the possibilities on this

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: phone with a with a connector cable, and it's just

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01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: one less thing to break. I mean, there's a whole

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01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: bunch of reasons why they want to get rid of it,

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01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: and it probably will happen over time, hopefully not in

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: the next year or so.

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Speaker 11: Eventually, I want to transfer photos also to shutterfly. You're

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01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 11: you're familiar with Shutterfly.

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01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I personally wouldn't recommend Shutterfly. I mean nothing against Shutterfly.

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01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: It's fine, but you know, there are there are other

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: services out there that I think are better. I mean,

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01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 1: if you're trying to print these, I mean, I personally

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01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: like Google Photos. I think that that's a really good

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01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: place to put these because, Melissa, you'll find that they

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01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: have amazing AI built in that if you put a

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01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: bunch of people, you know, old relatives and things in

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01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: these photos, it will sort them by people, places, things.

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01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: And Shutterfly may do this. I haven't. I haven't used

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: them in a why well, I used to use them

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01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot. In fact, that's where I kept all my

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01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: pictures for many, many years. But I think that there's just,

1682
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, better thing, better places to store your photos

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01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: at this point. Shutterfly to me is more a place

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 1: where you go to print your photos, not necessarily store

1685
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: them for the long term. Amazon Photos is really good

1686
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: and if you're a Prime member, that's completely free to

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 1: store unlimited photos. Obviously, if you have an iPhone, iCloud

1688
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: is good, drop Box one edrive, I mean, there's so

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01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: many ways to do this, Melissa, But the main thing

1690
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: is get those things off the discs, get them onto

1691
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: your computer, get them into the cloud, and then once

1692
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: you have them all converted and figured out, then you

1693
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,959
Speaker 1: can go from there. Are you good on the process?

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01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: You feel confident?

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01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, after your explanation. But the one thing I want

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01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 11: to tell you is I don't have confidence privacy issues

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01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 11: with Google.

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01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's okay, I would. I mean, I I

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01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: think that you know a lot of that. I think

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01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Google is actually a pretty good company when it comes

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 1: to a lot of this stuff.

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01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 5: But they do.

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01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: Look, they've built their business on using you know, people's data.

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: But anytime you're using a free product, that's kind of

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: the agreement you have with them. So I'm fine with that.

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01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: If you don't want to use Google, you don't have to.

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm just giving you what I like.

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: But there's there's yeah exactly. But if you want something

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01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: that's super private, they're not really trying to do anything

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01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: with your stuff. I mean, use Dropbox. You know, you

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01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: can get a couple gigs on there for free. Amazon obviously.

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Speaker 1: If you don't like Google, they're kind of you know,

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not really using your data for your photos.

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01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: But you know it's just if you want something, you

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,560
Speaker 1: use whatever you want. I'm not I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: to try to get it into the cloud, just for safekeeping.

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Speaker 8: You know, right, But do as you like.

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Speaker 11: One more quick question.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, We're gonna have to take it off the air.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, Hang on because I gotta go to break

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Speaker 1: eighty eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one the website Rich

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01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: on tech dot TV. I'll link up that floppy disc

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01:24:54,040 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: reader rich on tech dot TV. Welcome back to which

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01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: on tech Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking

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01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: technology at Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four to one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Ellison says, hey, Rich, happy holidays. Oh wow, happy holidays.

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01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: I guess people are still saying that. I love it

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01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: when your sons are on the show. They're like young

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01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,919
Speaker 1: versions of you, so articulate and intelligent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All I think about is how articulate intelligent I used

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01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: to be. They're just coming up in this world. I'm

1735
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: like coming down. Quick question, what was on what was

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01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: the name of the website you mentioned a few weeks

1737
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 1: ago for getting discounts on shopping sites. It was simply Codes.

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01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: Simplycodes dot Com. Love that website. It's the only one

1739
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: I check. I tell you this every single time. If

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01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 1: I was shopping on a website the other day and

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01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: I looked at simply Codes and it was you know,

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01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: if if you search for the website on there and

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: the word codes is like crossed out, that means there's

1744
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: no codes. And you can go try looking at codes

1745
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: all over the internet. You're not gonna find them, guaranteed.

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01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what the secret sauce is of that.

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: We should have Simply Codes on the show because I've

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01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 1: talked about them so much. Sue says, Hey, Rich, I

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01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: have one of those flash drives that lets you download

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: pictures from your iPhone to your desktop computer. Can you

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01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 1: also go the other way download pictures from the desktop

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01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: to the iPhone. You could, but most of the way

1753
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: that Apple is sort of like configured is one way.

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01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: So you could do this, and I believe you can

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01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: plug that into your iPhone. And I think there's an

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: import functionality on the photos app that shows up when

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01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: you are when you plug something in. I don't have

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01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: something to plug into here right now. I mean I

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: do but it's well, let me say, hang on. This

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01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: is why I bring my bag of tricks with me everywhere,

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01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: so I can test this stuff. Let's see if I

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01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: have a flash drive here. Usually, yeah, I do. So

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01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna plug this into the bottom of my iPhone

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01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: and see if it has an import. Now, if you

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01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: said Android, yeah, simple, but iPhone, you know they're a

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01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: little bit a little bit different. Everything's there, it's just

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01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: in you know, sometimes not necessarily where you think. Okay,

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01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: so I've got I went here, let's see. Okay, I'm

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: not seeing an import. There's gotta be okay, hold on,

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm looking at utilities. Hold on, let's see utilities.

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh it says imports. Let's see. Now those are the

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01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: things I have imported. Okay, I'll have to look at this.

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01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: But in general, I'm gonna know you can import into

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: the files app like copy things over, but I got

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01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: to look to see how to do that with them.

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01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: But in general, a couple of ways to get photos

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01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: from your computer to your iPhone. Number one, if you

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01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: have a Mac computer, just air drop them. They'll go

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01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: right into the photos app. You could turn on iCloud

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01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: photos on both devices, so you can drag and drop

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01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: on your photos app on the desktop and they'll sync

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01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: right to your phone. There's some wire options if you

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: have a cross platform, like if you have a Windows computer,

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: you can use the app called local Send, and basically

1785
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: if you're on the same Wi Fi network, you can

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01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: just transfer large files anything from your phone or your

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01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: computer to your phone. And then another one is called Blip.

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Speaker 1: I just use this today. This one's this is basically

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01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 1: like an air drop, but it does work over the Internet.

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01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: But once you install it on your computer, like it's

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01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: really cool. Like let's say you have a computer, a

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01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 1: Windows computer and an iPhone. You can install Blip on

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: both of those devices, and then everything gets a name,

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01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: so when you want to share a picture from one

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01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: thing to another, you just literally tap the name of

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01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: the product like your phone, and it will send it

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01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 1: to it. So it's kind of like Local Send, but

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01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: like less geeky. And then if you want something that's

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01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 1: really good, I love this app called Walter Pro and

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01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: this is really cool because it does more than just photos.

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01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: It basically lets you transfer any file onto your phone

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: like Dragon drop or your iPad. So if you've been struggling,

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01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you got an ebook or something. You know, a lot

1804
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: of the stuff has gotten easier thanks to the Internet,

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01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 1: but you know, before when it was all cables and stuff,

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01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,799
Speaker 1: it was really tough to move things to your iPhone.

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01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: But this is this app is like it's in my

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01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 1: toolkit and I just love it. Walter Pro wa l

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01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: t r Pro and you just drag and drop any file,

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01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: so it figures out what the file is, it converts

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01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: it if your iPhone can't play it, and it will

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01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: put it into the right app. So all of these things.

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01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: It's really really good at that stuff. So it's called

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Walter Pro works on Mac and Windows, and I love

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01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: it because you can just drag and drop anything. And

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01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: so I mean you can do files, you can do photos,

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01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 1: you can do music, you can do any video, and

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01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's just so it's like what it's what

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01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: Apple should give you, but they don't. And I'm not

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01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: sure why they don't give us that, but they don't.

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Speaker 1: Let's say one more before we get to the break here,

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01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Darren says, hey, Rich, is the website missing money dot

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01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: com legit. I heard it's for government for finding old

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01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: lost money. I went there, found some started filling out

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01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: the form and asked for my social Should I give it?

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01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas? It is legit, so it's run on behalf

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01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: of state governments to help. You know, these reunite people

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01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: with unclaimed funds. But I agree. I did the same thing.

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01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I went there and I started doing the claim. Then

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01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: I asked for my social I was like, ah, I

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01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: really want to give that. But anyway, all the states

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01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: run their own sites as well, so you can go there.

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01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: I think this's just links to them. But yes, it

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01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: is legit. You just have to decide if the money's

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01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: worth it. Eighty to eight rich one oh one rich

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01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 1: on tech Dot TV more after this, Welcome back to

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01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: rich on tech rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

1838
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: talking technology. We got a call. We got a question

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01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: about importing photos onto the iPhone. It is possible. I'm

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: just trying to find where the import they've moved. It

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01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: looks like on the iPhone, so I'm trying to find

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01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: where to import those. I know you can do it

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01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: in the photos app somehow. I just with iOS twenty

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01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: six it seems like it's changed. So there I see

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01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: the imports, but I just can't seem to get it

1846
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 1: to find the photo on my flash drive, but it

1847
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: is possible. Eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight

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01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: seven four two four one zero one. The website richon

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01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: tech dot tv. It's updated with everything that we've mentioned

1850
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:29,480
Speaker 1: so far. My next guest is someone who I interviewed

1851
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:35,440
Speaker 1: for KTLA, a web a story about EXIF data metadata

1852
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: on your phone. Remish Strina of Austin is a UCLA

1853
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: professor and director of the uc Digital Culture's Lab Ramess

1854
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: you there.

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01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 5: I'm here.

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01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to the show.

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01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so glad to join you. Thank you for

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01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 5: having me, Thank.

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01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. I know this a long time coming.

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01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: We're we're trying to figure out the best date and time.

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01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: But I'm glad you're here because you said some great

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01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: stuff in the interview we do with KTLA about privacy.

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01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: But let me just ask you, it's twenty twenty six.

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01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: What's top of mind when it comes to you know,

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01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: what people are up against this year when it comes

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01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: to their digital life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the gateway to so many anxieties we

1868
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 5: have about technology today, Rich, is the reality that almost

1869
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 5: as we discussed in the story, the great story you

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01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 5: did for KTLA, is that almost anything in everything we

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01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 5: do is surveilled rich basically almost anything and everything we

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01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 5: do is turned into data, and that data is captured.

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01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 5: That data is being used to train AI systems that

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01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 5: in many cases are displacing, if not replacing work. That

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01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 5: data is being used to prop up the most powerful

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01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 5: companies in the history of the world. That data is

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01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 5: being used, you know, combined with particular algorithms to have

1878
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 5: polarizing effects on the American population. So I hate to

1879
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 5: be a doom and gloomer because I think we can

1880
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 5: do a ton to transform the status quo. But the

1881
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 5: reality is is these forces that make many people feel insecure.

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01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not sure if they can trust what

1883
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 5: they see or who they're engaging with online. These forces

1884
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 5: are all built upon the collection, uh the aggregation and

1885
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 5: the retention of our our lives, our intimate personal lives.

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01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 5: And if you just think about it, even like social

1887
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 5: media itself, I don't really go on to social media

1888
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 5: to see what Mark Zuckerberg is up to.

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01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: You know, No, you don't care that he's body surfing

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01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: or whatever he's doing.

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01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 5: I mean, just a little it's funny. It's a little funny,

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01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 5: and I've actually met him before, so he looked very

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01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 5: different when I met him those ten years ago.

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01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, the.

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01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 5: Up right, Or I go into social media maybe if

1896
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 5: I'm voyeuristic to see what an ex girlfriend is up to.

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01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 5: That's why I go in social media. Right. So we

1898
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 5: are the product and the customer, right, But it's all

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01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 5: our data that is being monetized for these third parties,

1900
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:11,799
Speaker 5: which is these insanely wealthy evaluated companies that are dominating

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01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 5: the stock market. So that's why there's concern and anxiety today.

1902
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 5: But this digital world could serve all of us if

1903
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 5: we put in particular reforms, and I truly believe we

1904
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 5: can do that, but it might take some time and

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01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 5: the political will as well. Well.

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01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: I mean in the US, at least, the company is king, right,

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01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: like the tech companies are the ones who are writing

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01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: the rules. There's really not a lot of laws around

1909
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: this stuff. Now we're seeing some, but it's all very much.

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01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: Uh you know, the these tech companies fight it. Of course,

1911
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 1: they don't want any rules around what they do.

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01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 5: Right.

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01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: Is that is that fair to say?

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01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yeah.

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01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: We had we had a woman who I a caller

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01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: who was I recommended Google Photos to her and she said,

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01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to put my stuff into role. I

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01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: don't trust it. I don't like the privacy aspect. And

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01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: I said, you know, we have this agreement with these

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Speaker 1: companies that we are the data and so they're monetized.

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Speaker 1: If it's free, we are the product, right, isn't that

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the first process.

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Speaker 5: It's all built on terms of service that we all

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Speaker 5: sign on to or we just you know, hit a

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Speaker 5: checkbox on that are totally designed to be unintelligible, meaning

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Speaker 5: like I mean, they're not just legal speak, but it's

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Speaker 5: like extremely impossible to understand it. And the default that

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Speaker 5: the real problem is, the default is warrantless data collection.

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Speaker 5: The default should be, you know that we opt in

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Speaker 5: maybe with particular services or perks offered to us to

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Speaker 5: certain types of data collection. But now the status quo

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Speaker 5: data is data collection about everything and anything. Let me

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Speaker 5: just give you an example. It's not just on a

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Speaker 5: platform rich as I said, the aggregation and data. So

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Speaker 5: an example I like to say, always tell people are

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Speaker 5: my students, you know, we're starting term at UCLA on Monday,

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Speaker 5: is okay, it's one thing for you know, my Instagram

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Speaker 5: data to be you know available to Meta, the holding

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Speaker 5: you know, the big com the parent company, but it's

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Speaker 5: another for that. You know, we're in Instagram, I'm always

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Speaker 5: having a good time. I'm just too cool for school.

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Speaker 5: But what if that data was aggregated with my seven

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Speaker 5: to eleven data going there last night at midnight and

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Speaker 5: buying forties and cigarettes and I didn't do either of

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Speaker 5: those things. But think about that that part of my

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Speaker 5: There are different parts of our lives. So privacy is

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Speaker 5: not just a one size fits ault thing. It's certain

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Speaker 5: things in certain contexts, right, and so that is being

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Speaker 5: violated right now. And what you call tech companies rich

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Speaker 5: are not just tech companies. The biggest taxi company in

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Speaker 5: the history of the world is a tech company Uber,

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Speaker 5: the biggest hotel company in the history of the world

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Speaker 5: accommodation company is a tech company Airbnb. The biggest media

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Speaker 5: company in the history of the world is Meta slash Facebook. Right,

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Speaker 5: So they've taken over everything in anything, monetizing our data

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Speaker 5: with these little gremlins in the middle that we call

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Speaker 5: I'm just joking about the which we call algorithms.

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Speaker 1: But it's true.

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Speaker 5: We see in what we don't see, all based on

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Speaker 5: surveillance of us. So people are being individually micro targeted

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Speaker 5: with content. And that's why maybe you and I rich

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Speaker 5: are like brothers from another mother, same demographic, SA, this, same, that,

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Speaker 5: same everything. But you and I could both be on

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Speaker 5: Twitter slash x and be presented with visions of the

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Speaker 5: world and the nation that have no overlap whatsoever with

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Speaker 5: one another.

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Speaker 1: That's wild Why.

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Speaker 5: At scale we get fragmentsed in polarized.

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Speaker 1: This is I talk about this all the time. We

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Speaker 1: used to have shared values in this world, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and country, yeah, and we also have. We also have.

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Speaker 1: We also used to all watch the same thing, like

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Speaker 1: we used to sit down for better or for worse.

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Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz came on once a year, you sat down.

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Speaker 1: It was that shared experience. Right now everyone has their

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Speaker 1: own individual experience and it's run, like you said, by

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Speaker 1: an algorithm that, by the way, is leading people down

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Speaker 1: paths that have never been done before. Right Like you're

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Speaker 1: you're sitting there, you watch one video about something, and

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Speaker 1: now you're suddenly seeing a thousand videos about an eating

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Speaker 1: disorder or something like that.

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Speaker 5: Never hardcore en us, you know, for these platforms, it

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Speaker 5: just makes you more and more and more hardcore because

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Speaker 5: it's predicting, computationally predicting content that is likely to grab

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Speaker 5: our attention, which is extracting dopamine. It's usually these three

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Speaker 5: hormones are part of the process. Dopamine, cortisol, and adrenaline.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I am an adrenaline junkie, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 5: you know. But at the same time, I also know

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Speaker 5: that too much adrenaline firing in my brain could actually

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Speaker 5: imbalance me. Same thing with dopamine and cortisol. Right, dopamine,

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Speaker 5: we get a dopamine rush when we get maybe ding

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Speaker 5: ding ding at a slot machine. But then we know

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Speaker 5: you get strung out if you just become a dopamine hounds,

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Speaker 5: so to speak. So this is why we are, you know,

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Speaker 5: being fragmented, because if you actually look at Americans or

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Speaker 5: Californians or Angelino's like us, we have remarkable actually agreements

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Speaker 5: in a lot of different things. If you just pull

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Speaker 5: this country seven percent, you know what, there's widespread consensus

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Speaker 5: on many issues politically, economically if you just do a

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Speaker 5: wide poll outside of this category of political party or

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Speaker 5: what have you. And the and the reason the engines

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Speaker 5: that individualize us and separate us are really part of

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Speaker 5: this technology world, and the sad part of it for

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Speaker 5: me is not that it's all only that it's built

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Speaker 5: upon data collection and micro targeting through these algorithms, but

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Speaker 5: it's also built on an Internet that started at UCLA

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Speaker 5: where I work fifty now fifty six years ago that

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Speaker 5: we paid for US taxpayers. So if you compound these

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Speaker 5: issues and then you look at the emergence of AI,

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Speaker 5: which is creating content that's indistinguishable, you know, like fake

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Speaker 5: human beings.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was even told by a friend of mine who

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Speaker 5: is tech CEO rich that you know that I know

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Speaker 5: we're doing this audio, but say we even video that

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Speaker 5: an AI could do this interview for me within you know,

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Speaker 5: six months to one year. And I don't know, I

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Speaker 5: could just you know whatever, it's just whatever you want your.

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Speaker 1: Data than my AI to do that, right, I do

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Speaker 1: believe it. It's it's wild because it's these things have

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Speaker 1: taken on a life of their own, and they kind

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Speaker 1: of they absorb so much information quickly and regurgitate it

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Speaker 1: that it's unlike anything we've ever seen before. Real quick.

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Speaker 1: We got to run in a in a minute. But

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Speaker 1: I want to what's the solution you've talked about this

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Speaker 1: idea of you know, a more democratic internet. What do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 5: I mean, what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What's the solution here? Do we have one?

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Speaker 5: It involves, you know, harnessing the kinds of political forces

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Speaker 5: to set up checks and balances in our system. And

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Speaker 5: that's not going to be anti tech innovation. It's going

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Speaker 5: to direct it in a way that continues to amass

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Speaker 5: astronomical profits and valuations for these companies, but not at

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Speaker 5: the cost of workers, consumers, citizens, even people of the planet,

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Speaker 5: given the disastrous effects of AI on energy, water, and

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Speaker 5: rare earth minerals. So instead, what we can do is how,

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Speaker 5: as I alluded to earlier, have the default being not

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Speaker 5: the surveillance and capture of our data, and actually create

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Speaker 5: regulations that ensure that people have certain levels of power

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Speaker 5: and transparency and the ability to have greater accountability. So

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Speaker 5: we can create things like data unions that represent us

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Speaker 5: for our data. We can create mechanisms where people have

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Speaker 5: you know, job security and economic security as jobs get

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Speaker 5: automated out. We can regulate the algorithms that actually do

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01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 5: the dividing on social media platforms to ensure that there's

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Speaker 5: third party audit without divulging the source code so they're

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Speaker 5: the cool thing about this all is as fun as engineering.

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01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 5: As I'm a former engineer. There are even more sort

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01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 5: of solutions to guide and redirect this digital world so

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01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 5: it actually supports everybody's interests rather than the very very

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01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 5: very few at you know, pitted against the rest of us,

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01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 5: you know, and that just creates division. And that's what

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01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 5: we need to change right now in this country.

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Speaker 1: I believe greed. Ramesh, doctor Ramesh shrina Vast and thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me today, professor at UCLA. I'll

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Speaker 1: put a link to all of his books and website

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Speaker 1: and podcast online. Rich On Tech dot TV coming up, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. We are going to open up the feedbag

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01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: to hear from you. Coming up next on rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: out with you. We're gonna get to the feedbag. I

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01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: want to share my inflight texting hack that I used

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Speaker 1: on my last flight, which I cannot take credit for

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01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: this Android authority in clude me into this last year

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Speaker 1: and I was I did it last year and I

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Speaker 1: might have mentioned it, but I just I love it

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01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: because it's so great if you're on the plane and

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Speaker 1: you've got an Android phone and you've got you don't

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01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 1: want to pay for Wi Fi, but they give you

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01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: messaging for free. If you open up the Google Messages app,

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01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 1: you can chat with Google Gemini for free, just like

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Speaker 1: you would text someone. So if the airline has given

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01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: you free texting, and instead of texting another person, you're

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01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: just texting AI. And so I did this all flight long.

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Speaker 1: I finished a book, I watched a movie, and I

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01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: had the you know, the book. I said, okay, explain

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01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: me this in the book. And then the movie, I

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01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: just you know, asked. I watched this movie called Friendship,

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01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: which was, oh my gosh. I mean it's like whoa,

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01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: it was a. It was just it was it's about

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01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: guys trying to make friends with other guys, and it's

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01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: like very real about how tough it is, Like women

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01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: seem to make friends, no problem, guys a little bit

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01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,719
Speaker 1: trickier anyway. So it was like it was cringe worthy,

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01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: let's put it that way. Anyway. Uh yeah, it's such

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01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: a I'll link up the article in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: But it's such a cool way to uh kind of

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Speaker 1: hack the system. And it's great. The other thing this

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01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: another article is let's see where is it. Oh gosh,

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01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find it. Oh yeah. Android Wi Fi

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01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,719
Speaker 1: sharing So this another thing where you can basically share

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01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 1: your Wi Fi. Uh if you log into a Wi

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01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: Fi network you want to share it with your friends.

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01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: I know people do this on the plane as well.

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01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 1: You don't need to travel router, you can just share

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01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: it using an Android phone. So both of these things

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01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: are Android specific because iPhone has different rules and regulations

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01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: with their phone. But anyway, I thought they were both

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01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 1: really interesting. I'll link them up on the show notes.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the feedback. Bruce in southern

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01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: California says Rich, I've got to watch it. Consumer alert.

2104
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 1: I paid what looked like a simple five dollars fee

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01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: on a website to get help with an old laptop issue.

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01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: I only need a quick answer. What I didn't realize

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01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 1: is that the five dollars question quietly signed me up

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01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 1: for a sixty five dollars a month subscription. I skipped

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01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: the fine print while chatting with their bot, which was

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01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: my mistake, but the way it's presented is not clear

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Speaker 1: at all. I caught it quickly and canceled, but it

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01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: still showed up as a pending charge. My credit card

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01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: company told me to wait. Anyway, I found lots of

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01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: lawsuits and settlements over this exact issue with this company,

2115
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: single question fees turning to expensive monthly subscriptions without clear disclosure.

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01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm usually careful about this stuff, so this one caught

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Speaker 1: me off guard. Just wanted to flag it for others.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the work you do, Bruce. This leads me

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Speaker 1: to advice that I always give. You have to look

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Speaker 1: for the fine print. And I know you sound like

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01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 1: you do, but look, look look again. Anything that you're

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01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 1: getting for like ninety nine cents for a one week

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01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: trial or you know, whatever it is, there's going to

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01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: be a big payment that comes after that, and that's

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01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 1: the reason they're giving you that dollar trial or whatever.

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01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: So always look in. My other pro tip is you

2127
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: can cancel the subscription as soon as you sign up

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01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: for it, and you'll still usually get to use it

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Speaker 1: until the free trial runs out, whether you're on Android,

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01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: iPhone or even with any sort of subscription you sign

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01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: up for. So just remember that. Dennis in Florida says,

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Speaker 1: what the heck Man no Show on December twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: at least give us a best of you're slacking, Rich. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we did have a show. It was a best of

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Speaker 1: show and we did give it to you. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: sent this before the podcast came out. But you know,

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Speaker 1: no matter what, we only do a tape show like

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Speaker 1: a couple times a year, and no matter what, I

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Speaker 1: get emails from people saying Rich, I can't believe you're slacking.

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Speaker 1: It is like I gotta take a break once in

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Speaker 1: a while. Come on, cut me some slack jack. Let's

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Speaker 1: see here. PJ says someone asked you about scanning programs recently.

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Speaker 1: One I like a lot is a free program called

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Speaker 1: NAPS two. Not another PDF scanner. It's open source, it's free,

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Speaker 1: works on Mac, Windows, and it's compatible with most scanners

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Speaker 1: like Cannon brother HP built in scanning ocr searchable PDFs.

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Speaker 1: It's great NAPS two dot com. All right, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one to add to the list. I'll put that

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Speaker 1: on the website. John says, I tried downloading that Glimpse

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Speaker 1: notifications app you recommended, but I ended up with the

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Speaker 1: wrong one called Easy home Screen. It tried to charge

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Speaker 1: me thirty nine dollars and took over my home screen.

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Speaker 1: Turns out, when I searched for a glimpse in the

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Speaker 1: play Store. The first one that popped up was not

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Speaker 1: the real glimpse. This time I used your direct link.

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Speaker 1: I got the free the right free app installed. From

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Speaker 1: now on, I'll be more careful and check the details

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Speaker 1: before downloading, or better yet, use the links you provide. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: this happens all the time. I recommend an app on

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Speaker 1: TV or the radio. People download whatever they find when

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Speaker 1: they search for it, and they blame me and they say, Rich,

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Speaker 1: you just recommended this app. They're charging me ten dollars

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Speaker 1: a month, sixty dollars a month, and that's not the

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Speaker 1: app I recommended. Look closely when you search something on

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Speaker 1: Google Play. The first link that comes up is not

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Speaker 1: always the link to the direct app. It's probably an ad.

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Speaker 1: Same thing goes on iPhone, same thing goes on Google.

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Speaker 1: So be careful, use direct links when possible, and double

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Speaker 1: check the names. A lot of these apps they sound similar,

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Speaker 1: but they're not the same spelling.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: They They're said one way, but it's spelled another way.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here. Cecilia says, Hey, Rich, I just saw

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Speaker 1: your Rich on Tech Weekly show on KTLA for the

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Speaker 1: first time, and I love it. Keep it going. This

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Speaker 1: was so funny. This happened over the break. KTLA, the

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Speaker 1: TV station I worked for, showed my TV show that

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Speaker 1: we've been doing for two years now on streaming. They

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Speaker 1: showed it over the air. Usually it's just on streaming,

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Speaker 1: so all these people were like, wait, what you have

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Speaker 1: a show? Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. It's

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Speaker 1: been out there for two years. But because it's on streaming,

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Speaker 1: you know, the audience was much bigger when they put

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Speaker 1: it on TV. So KTLA plus app you can download

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Speaker 1: it no matter where you live. In fact, we show

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Speaker 1: ten minutes of this radio show on this show on TV,

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Speaker 1: so if you want to see some behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: you can do that. Ktla Plus available for Roku, Fire TV,

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Speaker 1: Apple TV. New episodes premiere every Sunday at eleven am.

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Speaker 1: They're on demand anytime. Let's see do you say one minute?

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Speaker 1: Or do you say? We got to go? Ed says

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Speaker 1: On Christmas Day? Instead of that burning log on TV,

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Speaker 1: they should run a rich On Tech marathon with all

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Speaker 1: your segments from the year. I like the way you

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Speaker 1: guys think. You guys are funny. I love it. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: do we have time for one more? Probably not? I

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Speaker 1: think that's going to do it for this episode of

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Speaker 1: the show. You can find links to everything I mentioned

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Speaker 1: on my website. Just go to rich on Tech dot tv.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: This is the best time to follow me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: because guess what, I'm going to be flooding you with

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Speaker 1: content from CS twenty twenty six in Las Vegas. I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to show you all of the cool stuff

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Speaker 1: that I see there. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to this first show of twenty twenty six. There are

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Speaker 1: so many ways you can spend your time. I do

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Speaker 1: appreciate you spending it right here with me. Please do

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Speaker 1: not drive distracted. Those texts can wait. Thanks to everyone

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Speaker 1: who makes this show possible, Bobo, Kim, Bill, Julie everyone.

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Speaker 1: My name is Richdmiro. I will talk to you real

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Speaker 1: soon