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Well, it's pro pickleball? 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Real, are people really going to tune into this? If 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: you're playing moneyball with a huge bag of money, you're 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: going to be really, really good. 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 5: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we explore 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 5: the big money issues in the world of sports. 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: I'm Vanessa Proudomo. 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 5: Michael Barr is off this week, but stepping in to 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: join me this week is our friend Bloomberg News sports 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 5: business reporter Randall Williams. Today on the show, we are 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 5: speaking with former professional athletes about their next chapter after 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: their playing career. 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 4: First up. 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 5: I have to calm myself a little bit because we 28 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 5: are talking to a member of the two thousand and 29 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 5: nine Yankees World Series team, Nick Swisher. Nick is here 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: to speak about his partnership with Ford and give us 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 5: the insight on the start of the baseball season. Nick Swisher, 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 5: former MLB All Star and World Series champion, Thanks so 33 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 5: much for joining the Bloomberg business of sports. 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: We're so excited to have you. 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thanks for that intro. I'll take that. Van Messa, 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: I'm in for that. That sounds good. 37 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: All right, Well let's get into it then. So it 38 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: is opening week. 39 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 5: Give us your early, super early, way too early predictions. 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 6: I mean. 41 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 7: My way too, way too early predictions. 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: Listen, I think there is obviously a handful of teams 43 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: each and every year that you would include in that 44 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: World Series conversation. One of the things that I love 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: about our squad with the New York Yankees is the 46 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: depth that we have from our starting pitching. Really really 47 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: excited about that. Garrett Cole's on his way back as well. 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing having him back in the starting five. 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: But listen, I mean, you know, a lot of narrative 50 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: has been around how the Yankees are kind of running 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: it back this year and how they're kind of, you know, 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: how they have the same team that they had last year, 53 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: And yes, that is true, but once again, you are 54 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: talking about the best regular season offense in the league 55 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: last year, So there is something to be said for that. 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: From the time that I've been able to spend with 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: these guys in spring training, it's been nice. The conversations 58 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: that are being had are a lot different than they 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: have been in the years past, so there's a lot 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: more camaraderie going on. There's a lot more talks about, 61 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: you know, having the opportunity to play together one more time, 62 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: and once again, you know, with the buzz that the 63 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic just had, you know, regular season, we're 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: really excited to get this thing going. 65 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 7: So I don't know. I mean, I'm a Yankee guy, 66 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 7: so I mean I believe kids stribe. 67 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: So it's hard for me not to say that I 68 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: don't think my boys are gonna be able to get 69 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: it done this year. I tell you what, it's really 70 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: hard right now not to say, you know, the Los 71 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers, I think the Chicago Cubs made a real 72 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: good push. You know, trying to bring over some guys 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: over there. I really think that there's gonna be a 74 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: battle up for the American League. You know, you're talking 75 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: about you know, the Toronto Blue Jays who just had 76 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: an absolutely tremendous year. Boston Red Sox have a bunch 77 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: of young ThunderCats on that team. You know, I'm really 78 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: interested to see kind of what the Baltimore Orioles do. 79 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: But if you're really asking me kind of hard, it's 80 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: obviously I'm going to say the New York Yankees just 81 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: because that's my spad. But I truly do believe that 82 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: if you're looking at the overall Vegas odds, it's hard 83 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: to say that the New York Yankees won't be there 84 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: at the end. They have exactly what it takes, they have, 85 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: the depth, they have, the overall experience. This isn't a 86 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: guessing game anymore. The boys know exactly what's up for steak. 87 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: They know how blessed they are to be able to 88 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: be to be running this back together again, just like 89 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: they did back in twenty five. So I'm really really 90 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: expecting an absolutely fantastic twenty six seasons. 91 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 7: Yankees Dodgers seven. 92 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate. 93 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 6: I hear you. I hear you. 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: So ahead of opening Day, the MLB's partnering with Ford 95 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: Motors as being the official automotive partner of the MLB. 96 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: Tell us about what's happening there. 97 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and this is amazing. 98 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: You're talking about two of the most iconic American brands 99 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: that literally helped build America if you're thinking about it, 100 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: from the iconic company Ford to America's favorite pastime at MLB. Now, 101 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: what's great about this is this is not just a sponsorship, man, 102 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: this is an overall partnership. And what I appreciate most 103 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: about what Ford is doing right now is they're not 104 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: just showing up for the huge Major League spotlight moments 105 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: fourth July Opening Day World Series. No, no, no, Ford 106 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: is now spreading their wings. And what they're doing is 107 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: they are getting themselves involved from the grass roots up. 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: And for someone like me who is a girl dad, 109 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: the fact that they are including softball in something like 110 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: this makes me makes my heart just absolutely want to explode. 111 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: I think right now, women's sports are having such a 112 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: huge momentum right now, and with the overall growth of 113 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: softball as well as youth sports, the fact that Ford 114 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: is really getting themselves involved from the grassroots moving up. 115 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: Could not be more proud to be sitting here representing 116 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: two iconic American brands. And with the overall. 117 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 7: Resurgence that America's had here over the overall Olympics we 118 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 7: just had, obviously the heartbreaking loss we just had in 119 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 7: the WBC, it seems like right now people are back, man, 120 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 7: people are proud to be American, and at the end 121 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 7: of the day, having these two amazing iconic brands collabing 122 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 7: together to create this partnership, could not be more honored 123 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 7: to be sitting here repping both brands. 124 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. With this being you know, 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: you're calling this America's most iconic company, what is your 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: favorite Ford model? 127 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 6: Oh? 128 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 8: Bro, is it hard? I mean Bro F one fifty 129 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 8: say gee, I mean, come on, let's go. I mean 130 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 8: I am a girl dad, I've got daughters. So the 131 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 8: expedition if you haven't seen the twenty twenty six expedition, 132 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 8: Oh man, everything looks good. So it'd be hard for 133 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 8: me not to say the F one fifty. But I'm 134 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 8: also going to say the expedition as well. 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: What we are saying with this, it's a real partnership 136 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: and including the grassroots level. Why is that important, you know, 137 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: for a sponsor to really become a partner and to 138 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: grow the game more than just at the professional level. 139 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have kids, but at 140 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: the end of the day, sports cost money, and at 141 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: the end of the day, baseball is kind of one 142 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: of those sports where you need equipment. And the fact 143 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: that Ford is going out and putting where their money 144 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: where their mouth is involving themselves in not only just 145 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: a major partnership with MLB, but be able to kind 146 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: of investing in the areas where Ford works in, you know, 147 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: places like you know, Detroit as well as Buffalo. I 148 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: think they're investing in the communities, and that's what it's 149 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: all about. You know, America and baseball is America's favorite pastime. 150 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 3: Things are built around communities. And the fact that Ford 151 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: understands that creating this huge partnership not only with the 152 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: iconic brand Major League Bay, but being able to dip 153 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: into the grassroots and give those opportunities for young kids 154 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: to play the game that I love and a lot 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: of people out there love because being part of a 156 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: team helps mold you as a human being. Moving forward, 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: you learn how to count on people, people learn how 158 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: to count on you. I love the team aspect of 159 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: baseball and softball and all of that. I think that 160 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: kids need a little bit more of that. And the 161 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: fact that Ford is going out there and helping these 162 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: individuals have that opportunity to go out and play this 163 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: amazing game. I think it's an absolutely amazing partnership and 164 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what Ford's. 165 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 7: Going to do in the future. 166 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: So we just got done wrapping up the World Baseball 167 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Classic and it seems like the event has grown year 168 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: after year. I wonder what you make of the World 169 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Baseball Classic and sort of it's both cultural significance and 170 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: how the event came out to be. 171 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: Hey, I mean, Randall, I don't know about you, bro, 172 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: but after watching Venezuela absolutely just weep it was on 173 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: the field after winning that game. It just made me 174 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: really think to myself, number one, how important the WBC 175 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: really is, and number two, how winning that thing can 176 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: really really change an overall community and overall country. The 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: fact that Venezuela is celebrating the way they are right 178 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: now is absolutely earned. I could not have been more 179 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: proud of those guys. I was listening to you know, 180 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: Salvi Perez and just talking about just how blessed they 181 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: were to be able to be part of a brothership 182 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: and a family, and how it is different representing your 183 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: country more than representing your team. So I think, just 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: in general, the fact that Major League Baseball, as well 185 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: as you know, my guy Jim Snell who heads up 186 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: the WBC, they have done an absolutely tremendous job. I 187 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: was able to spend a little bit of time with 188 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: the commissioner down in Puerto Rico, and Bro, I'm telling 189 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: you that Latin style of baseball is in my blood, 190 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: no doubt. I mean, with the music, the fives, the 191 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: overall just the overall energy that goes into the games. 192 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely amazing for our game, and just 193 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: with our overall global superstars we have with people like 194 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: show hal Time, you know, with overall you know, Ronald 195 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Lecuna Junior for Venezuela. I'm even thinking the electrician from 196 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: the Czech team, the pitcher, I mean, what an amazing 197 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: moment for him. So just so many different things that 198 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: have happened over the last you know, three weeks in 199 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: the WBC could not be more excited for what's about 200 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: to happen. For the regular season, heartbreaking loss for Team USA, 201 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: but that home run Bryce Harper hitting at eighth inning. 202 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: I won't never forget that home run because that one 203 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: was a good one. 204 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's so interesting, like you were talking about, 205 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: I mean, Latinos, we did show up and we put 206 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 5: on the culture was amazing, right, But what do you 207 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 5: think this is the first time we've really seen the 208 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: WBC in this light that it's really on par with 209 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 5: these other international events you had it squeezed in between, 210 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: you know, the Milan Winter Olympics and right before the 211 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: World Cup. Can baseball be you know, is the WBC 212 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 5: becoming one of those international events that really brings significance 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: to the sport, you know, worldwide? 214 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: Do you think? 215 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 7: I mean, Vanessa couldn't. I couldn't agree with you more. 216 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: I truly believe that it really has put our game 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: on the map there for a moment. I mean, you've 218 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: got so many other sports kind of rocking and rolling 219 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: right now, and we were taking center stage. So I think, 220 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: just in general, I think what I think is going 221 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: to come from the WBC, and I think we heard 222 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper talk a little bit about it during his interviews. 223 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: Is the Olympics and figuring out how we can get 224 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: professionals in the Olympics. Because at the end of the day, 225 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: being able to watch the winner Olympics this year and 226 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 3: just watching those individuals stand up on that podium receiving 227 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: their gold medals, the fact that their national anthem was 228 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: being played, there's something to be said about that. And 229 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: you know, it's a little many kind of Olympics for 230 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: the WBC. But I do love the fact that the 231 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 3: conversation is now going to get started like that because 232 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: I think that would be absolutely amazing to be able 233 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: to include professionals in that overall Olympics setting. I think 234 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: that would be great for the sport as well as 235 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: for the Olympics in general. 236 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: We are talking to Nick Swisher, former LB Allstar and 237 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 5: World Series champion. I want to talk a little bit 238 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 5: more about that, a little bit more about the Olympics, 239 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 5: like you were saying, because it hasn't been decided upon 240 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 5: yet and they haven't really made the official decision yet, 241 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 5: what's holding them back and what really would be the 242 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 5: disadvantage to not having MLB players play in the Olympics. 243 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they haven't done it thus far. I 244 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: would say probably your biggest hurdle is just a bunch 245 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: of bread tape. You've got to remember there were a 246 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: lot of players that were not able to play in 247 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: the World Baseball Classic due to insurance policies things like that, 248 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: because you got to remember, these guys aren't necessarily getting 249 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: paid as much as they would be during the regular season, 250 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: and I know that the agents are not receiving very 251 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: much money either, So that really could be kind of 252 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: a sticking point in general. Now, depending on when you're 253 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: going to have to do that, you're going to have 254 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: to figure out a time to where you're gonna have 255 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: to shut the season down to be able to have 256 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: those individuals go and play in the Olympics. So it's 257 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: great that the conversation is getting going. I think that 258 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: there's obviously this wouldn't be happening if the Olympics weren't 259 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles coming in twenty twenty eight, but being 260 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: able to be right here in our backyard, the conversation 261 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: seems like it could not be happening at a better time. 262 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: So I think just in general, we're in a money 263 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: spot right now with our game. You know, Netflix has 264 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: jumped into the game this year, having Opening Day out 265 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: in San Francisco with the Giants and the Yankees. No, 266 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: they got some amazing superstars. Burt Kreischer is gonna be 267 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: over there. So I think just in general, we are 268 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: in a money. 269 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 7: Spot right now. 270 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: We've got a lot of attention around our game, and 271 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 3: we really need to capitalize on this momentum. 272 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 5: Right now, we're talking with World Series champion Nick Swisher. 273 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: Stick Around. 274 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 5: Our conversation continues with a focus on collective bargaining for 275 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 5: Michael Barr and this week's co host Randa Williams. 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: I'm Vanessa Proudomo. 277 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: You're listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg 278 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 5: Radio around the world. 279 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 280 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we explore 281 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: the big money issues in the world of sports. 282 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: I'm Vanessa Proudomo. 283 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 5: Michael Barr is off this week and stepping in to 284 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 5: join me is Bloomberg's Randall Williams. We're talking with World 285 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 5: Series champion Nick Swisher on the start of the MLB season. 286 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 5: Let's get back to that conversation. 287 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: One of the looming things in the distance for the 288 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: MLB after this season is going to be collective bargaining. 289 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: From your standpoint, there's been a lot of conversations about 290 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: does there need to be a minimum caps spending requirement 291 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: for owners? Does there need to be a salary cap? 292 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: All these sorts of things, because you do have owners 293 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: who are not spending and you have owners who are overspending, 294 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: like the Dodgers for example. 295 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: What do you make of. 296 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: That conversation As a former player who's been involved in 297 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: collective bargaining negotiations? How is this all going to play out? 298 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: And where do you stand on things? 299 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: I've been able to circle this game from, you know, 300 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: all sorts of facets at this moment. I've been able 301 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: to be a player. I've been able to circle it 302 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: from the media standpoint, you know, being able to be 303 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: a special advisor with THEES this is my ninth year 304 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 3: being able to circle it from the front office perspective 305 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: as well as working for the commissioner. Now, how everything 306 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: has been brought to me is you know, whenever you 307 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: hear the word cap for a Major League Baseball player, 308 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: that's almost like taboo. But at the end of the day, 309 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: it was not presented to me like that. It was 310 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: presented to me as a floor. Right now, one of 311 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: the things that I do appreciate about that floor is 312 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: if you look at the overall spending of Major League Baseball, 313 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: there's only a handful of teams that go over that 314 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: luxury tax. Now, when you're talking about a cap, there 315 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: almost is an imaginary cap anyways, because when you do 316 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: go over that certain number, you have to pay money 317 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: in luxury tax. Now where does that luxury tax money go? 318 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: It goes to the lower teams. And I think that 319 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: the teams that are spending money are getting a little 320 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: sick and tired of paying for all of those teams 321 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: that are not spending money. So for someone like me, 322 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: I think it's amazing. I think you're starting to see 323 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: these NBA Max sort of contracts coming to play. I 324 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: think you saw Kyle Tucker on the four years, two 325 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollars. I think that they're realizing 326 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: that these ten to fifteen year deals don't necessarily pan 327 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: out in year twelve, thirteen. 328 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 7: Fourteen, and fifteen. 329 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: If I was a player in today's game, I'm thinking 330 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: to myself. Man, if I'm the number nineteen, twenty twenty one, 331 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: twenty two to twenty three player on the roster, now 332 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: I've got a chance to start making a little bit 333 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: more money, especially if this floor comes into play. And 334 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: like I always say, if you want to be part 335 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: of this game moving forward, you have to have an 336 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: open mind. You have to be open to a little adjustments, 337 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: maybe a little changes in the game. But I think 338 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: just in general, the game is in a great place. 339 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: And once again, once we get this CBA behind us 340 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: moving forward, obviously with everything that happened with Tony Clark, 341 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: I'm really interested to see what's going to happen on 342 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: the Union side. From my mouth to God's ears, fingers crossed, 343 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: we don't need to stop, which we want to continue 344 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: to keep this going. We want to make sure that 345 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: those conversations get taken care of, finished off, so we 346 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: can make sure that we have an amazing twenty seven season, 347 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: just like twenty six is going to be. 348 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: I'm curious when you were talking to players, like do 349 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: you think they're on that same wave of they kind 350 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 5: of understand and that there was long term, big contracts. 351 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 5: They don't need to keep fighting for the ten year 352 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 5: deals anymore, Essa. 353 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: At least, you know, for myself, I remember when I 354 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: was coming on my six year free agency, you know, 355 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: I remember with my agent that I had at the time, 356 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: Danie Lozano. I remember him stressing to me that all 357 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: we were fighting for was years. The more years, the 358 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: more money. And so nowadays I'm kind of thinking it 359 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: might be a little different sort of way of going 360 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: about it because I'm thinking to myself, you know, I 361 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: played for thirteen seasons. 362 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I could have signed, like, you know, two or 363 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 7: three big deals. 364 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: But once again, I think that if you're looking at 365 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: this CBAH and the things that are coming into play 366 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: more from a floor perspective coming into play rather than 367 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: a cap coming into play, because even if there is 368 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: a cap, the Los Angeles Dodgers don't care about a cap. 369 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: They're just going to continue to keep going over that 370 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: that the third money that they have is going to 371 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: be paid out for decades. 372 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I kind of like the spending 373 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: that the Dodgers do, like it's sort of like putting 374 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: together a Justice League team. Of It's so true, I 375 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: don't mind watching the Avengers. 376 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: I actually happen to be in spring training earlier this year, 377 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: and I was out doing some stuff with the AUSL 378 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: girls in softball over at Dodgers camp, and all of 379 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm sitting there and I'm watching, you know, 380 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: Frank Freeman and Wookie Betts and Show Hey, and then 381 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, here coats Edwin Dire. So now, 382 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, I'm like, bro, this is like the X man. 383 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it really is. But once again, you know, 384 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: when you have that money in place behind you, like 385 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: the Googen Hives do, it's easy to spend that month. 386 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 6: Yep. 387 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: Like you said, I mean, it is nice having dynasties 388 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 3: out there. I just wish they were coming more out 389 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: of the Bronx. 390 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 5: Exactly. I was just gonna ask you your take on that. 391 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 5: I mean, because you know better than anyone. The Yankees 392 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: used to be famous for this, but it feels like 393 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 5: it hasn't been like that in recent years. Why do 394 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 5: you think that is? And do you think it's actually 395 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 5: going to change now that we can't keep up with 396 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: the Dodgers right now? 397 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think anybody's keeping up with the Dodgers 398 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: right now. And that's what I just think. You know, 399 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: I think, listen, let's just overall look at the roster. 400 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: Let's look at the coaching staff. I mean, Aaron Boone, 401 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 3: I mean, he's been around here for a minute. You know, 402 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: there's nothing that should surprise him anymore. He understands the 403 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: job at hand. He knows what he wants to do. 404 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 3: And for my boss, Brian Cashman, you know, he's been 405 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: very fortunate in his tenure as general manager to win 406 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: a World Series with every manager that he has ever had. 407 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: Aaron Boone is one of the nicest human beings on 408 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: the planet. He's a great leader. Really interesting to see 409 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: how the season goes out for the boys this year. 410 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: But once again, I think everyone knows the job at hand. 411 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: I think there for a minute, the expectation bar was 412 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: being lowered a little bit by saying, oh, yeah, we 413 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: got to the playoffs. That was a good year. Well 414 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: we're New York Yankees. It's not a good year unless 415 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: you win the World Series. And I think Derek Jeter 416 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: proved that the core four guys set that tone, and 417 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: I want to make sure that we can continue to 418 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: keep that bar at that level. I think, just in general, 419 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: it feels like, you know, once again, that talent has 420 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: never really been the issue over in the Bronx. It's 421 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: just really trying to figure out the little things that 422 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: we need to do to get ourselves to be able 423 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: to cross that finish line. Because yes, you know, every 424 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: team looks good on paper, but once again, you've got 425 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: to roll them out there and play it. So I 426 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: feel like it's nice, everybody's healthy, everybody's in a good spot. Really, 427 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: really just excited to get off to a great end 428 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: of March early April, just to get out of the gates, 429 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: because that always makes things loosen up a little bit 430 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: when you get off to a good jump. 431 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: Come April, Nick, you're going to be one of the 432 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: co hosts for All the Smoke's New Baseball podcasts alongside 433 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 2: Matt Barnes. How did you meet him? How is this? 434 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: What's this podcast going to be? 435 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 5: Like? 436 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 7: Oh, bro, it's gonna be legit. 437 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta remember, like Matt and I knew 438 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: each other when he was back at Golden State and 439 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 3: I was with the Oakland A's at the time. So 440 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: Matt and I go back, you know, fifteen twenty years. 441 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Matt is absolutely fantastic human. 442 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 7: You know. 443 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: Stephen Jackson way they do absolutely amazing. Those guys are fantastic. 444 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: I think that you've seen a little bit of some 445 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: of the interviews that myself and Matt have done as 446 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: well as see why Chris Young and Matt have done. 447 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: The Eric Davis interview was absolutely fantastic. Just being able 448 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: to dig in on these guys and just to talk 449 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: about things just you know, life, baseball, the game. I 450 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: just think in general, I'm so honored, I'm so blessed. 451 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: I can't wait. You know, I think that there is 452 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: definitely that that cross that cross contamination from the baseball 453 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: to the basketball world, where you know, all of us 454 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: athletes appreciate each other. There's so much respect that goes 455 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: in for that and for myself just being able to 456 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: tag team with these guys, uh and creating this. 457 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 7: All the smoke baseball side. 458 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: Can't wait to get this thing going because I think 459 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: it's going to be an absolute blast to be part of. 460 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I can associate that for you obviously, like 461 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: your personality just leans itself so so hard for a podcast. 462 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 4: I think. 463 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: Tell us about like, you know, well, obviously you're also 464 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: an analyst and things like that, So how. 465 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: Do you, you. 466 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 5: Know, run these different parts of your own empire, and 467 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 5: how do you see yourself as a broadcaster versus a 468 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: podcaster and all the different things. 469 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, it's crazy. Back when 470 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: I was a player, you know, not all these things 471 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: were available at the time. You know, I was thinking 472 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: to myself, if if this was in the prime of 473 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: my career right now, i'd have a podcast going, I'd 474 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: have all these things, all the content rolling, the whole nine. 475 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: But once again, I just think for myself, the fact 476 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: that I'm in this opportunity right now, I'm just gonna 477 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: roll it right. I feel like, you know, I've been 478 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: so blessed to be able to chase projects for the 479 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: passion of it rather than for the dollars, and so 480 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: I think that's really really helped me move my life forward. 481 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: Jumping into the startup space a little bit. I've got 482 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: a new eye tracking company that I'm working with, which 483 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: has been absolutely amazing. 484 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 7: So I can't wait to roll that out here really 485 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 7: really soon. 486 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: I feel like you guys are here about that, But 487 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: I think just in general, man, I've just been so blessed. 488 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 3: I've been able to have this amazing first career and 489 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: since then just kind of being able to do so 490 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: many different things. You know, I work for you know, Fox, 491 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: I've worked for Peacock, I work for the Yes Network 492 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: on the analyst side, you know, did some stuff for ESPN, 493 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: And then you know, being able to be a special 494 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: advisor and learning how the overall machine works of the 495 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: New York Yankees from top to bottom. This is my 496 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: ninth year of doing it. There's nothing in this organization 497 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: that I don't know how it runs. And then overall 498 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: being able to work with the commissioner, being able to 499 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: see how the big machine works, sort of the things 500 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: that they have in the queue moving forward. For someone 501 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: like me, I feel like my relationships are my superpower. 502 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: My passion, my energy is my superpower, and so I'm 503 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: just gonna just roll this thing out. I feel like 504 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: the only thing I'm really trying to do in life 505 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: is leave a great taste in people's mouth, because this 506 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: life really is all about relationships. And I'm so happy 507 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: and blessed that that was able to be relayed to 508 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: me early in life because now I'm reaping the benefits 509 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: of all those good things that happened in the past. 510 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 5: Well, nigg, it sounds like we can expect you to 511 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: be in some sort of front office position, some sort 512 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: of role going forward. Do you see yourself having a 513 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 5: different sort of role, more front office, more ownership maybe 514 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 5: in the future. 515 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're gonna find me back in the 516 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: dugout one of these days. I feel like for myself, 517 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 3: I just love this game too much not to right. Like, 518 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: I love being part of a locker room, I love 519 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: being part of a team. I feel like, you know, 520 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: I was a glue guy and I and I think 521 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: if I ever did get that opportunity to be a manager, 522 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: I think that I think I'd have a blast with it. 523 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 7: I think I would create an absolutely epic staff. 524 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: The vibes that would be rolling in and out of 525 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: our locker room would be high. Listen, I know how 526 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: hard this game is, uh, And so I think, just 527 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: in general, you know, one of these days, when my 528 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 3: kido's get off to college, uh and Mama and I 529 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 3: are sitting in the house by ourselves, I think we 530 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: might find ourselves back in the Bronx hopefully one of 531 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: these days. I think being able to be a manager 532 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: or a general manager for the organization that means the 533 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: world to me would be such an honor and a blessing. 534 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: So yes, I do have aspirations to do stuff like 535 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: that moving forward, But right now where I'm at, I'm 536 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: in a good pocket. 537 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 8: Right now, I'm just I'm just riding the way we 538 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 8: needed those. 539 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: I know, by the way, I mean, listen, I keep 540 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: telling d wrong. I'm like, you know, homeboy, you got 541 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: to put me. 542 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 7: On that staff something. It's got to get me on 543 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 7: that thing, you know. 544 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: I hear you, I hear you. So again. 545 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: One of the things we first talked about was the 546 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: MLB's relationship with Ford. So many different MLB events happening 547 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: this year, All Star Week, MLB at the Field of 548 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: Dreams World Series. Of course, what can we expect from 549 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 2: this partnership with Ford? Is it going to be on 550 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: site activations, commercial and ad spots? Tell us one more time, 551 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: what to expect from the MLB and Ford. 552 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: Well, once again, Randall, I think it's all of those things. 553 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: I think that Ford is doing exactly what they say 554 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: they're going to do. They're putting their money where their 555 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: mouth is. They are investing in communities, not only from 556 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: the highest level, but they are now building themselves down 557 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: into the grassroots. And I think that there is something 558 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: gracious as well. Is as amazing to be said for 559 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: something like that, really digging into the communities, having a 560 00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: real understanding of what this country was built on, as 561 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: well as Major League Baseball being America's favorite pastime. It 562 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: seems like the partnership is absolutely fantastic. You know, the 563 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: fact that I'm able to be here representing these two 564 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: iconic brands is almost a dream come true for me. 565 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: So we need some help in this world, and Ford 566 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: is doing exactly that, digging into the communities, putting their 567 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: money where their mouth is and helping give that to 568 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 3: not only the baseball amateur world, but the softball amateur 569 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: world as well. 570 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 7: And I think that is absolutely amazing. 571 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 5: Thanks to World Series champion Nick Swisher for joining us. 572 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 5: Up next, we're talking with former NFL player tarn Armstead 573 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 5: on what he's doing to help other athletes in their 574 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: next chapter for Michael Barr and this week's co host, 575 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 5: Randa Williams. 576 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: I'm Vanessa Perdomo. 577 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 5: You're listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg 578 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 5: Radio around the world. 579 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 580 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 581 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: We'll re explore the big money issues in the world 582 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: of sports. Vanessa Prudomo Michael barr is off this week. 583 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 5: A few weeks ago, Michael and I had the pleasure 584 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: of speaking with former offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints, 585 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 5: Toront Armstead and Chip Pasek, who is the founder and 586 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 5: CEO of Pro Athlete Community, a company Chip built out 587 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 5: to gather pro athletes in spaces to discuss their post 588 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 5: playing careers. This weekend is their flagship summit pack Accelerate, 589 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: where they will gather over four hundred professional athletes and 590 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: executives to create intentional momentum. Chip, turn, thanks so much 591 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: for joining the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 592 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 6: I'm going to. 593 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 9: Start with Chip tell us about the pro Athlete Community 594 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 9: and what it's all about. 595 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 10: So Pro Athlete Community we started it three years ago. 596 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 10: It is today the largest private membership organization of pro athletes. 597 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 10: We think anywhere you know, it's a remarkable community of 598 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 10: people that when you bring them together put great people 599 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 10: around them, it's impressive what they can accomplish given how 600 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 10: elite they. 601 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 11: Are both on and off the field. 602 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 10: So good pro athletes and you think about their athletic ability, 603 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 10: but the reality is athletic ability is table stakes to 604 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 10: make it to pros, it's all the other facets of 605 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 10: their makeup great rigor, resilience, drive, teamwork that are directly 606 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 10: applicable to their. 607 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 11: Post playing life. 608 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 10: So, you know, I'm honored to have Tront on our 609 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 10: board among a really incredible group of people Kansas Parker, 610 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 10: Devin mccordy, Jason mccordy, so on, and so forth, who 611 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 10: prove what post playing careers for great elite athletes can 612 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 10: look like. You know, we have this strong belief in 613 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 10: a phrase called exposure breeds expansion, and when pro athletes 614 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 10: are playing, they are uniquely focused on sport, you know, 615 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 10: in a way that can often be really challenging, and 616 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 10: the transition out of sport is much harder than anybody 617 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 10: in the world really realizes. You know, the world can 618 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 10: be pretty unfriendly to a former professional athlete, and it 619 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 10: doesn't have to be that way. So by coming together, 620 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 10: we put good people around good people, both pros being 621 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 10: around great pros across sport. And we're up to about 622 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 10: twenty one hundred members now from literally sixty different leagues. 623 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 10: But also putting people like me that have done stuff 624 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 10: in business around the players for the right reasons, not 625 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 10: the wrong reasons, and magic happens. So I've been honored 626 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 10: to know Testead for you know, a long time now 627 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 10: as a great Miami Dolphins fan. Of course, what he 628 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 10: did on the field is remarkable, but you look at 629 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 10: what he's doing now as a former player, which, by 630 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 10: the way, I hate that people say retired, like I'm 631 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 10: fifty five, I'm nowhere near done. Who came up with 632 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 10: the idea of telling pro athletes that they're retired. 633 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 11: When they're in their thirties. It's ridiculous. 634 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 10: Just a good example of the narrative around sports that 635 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 10: needs to change. So Testead is just an incredible example 636 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 10: of what we really believe in pac which is the 637 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 10: you know, pro sports will be your first meal, not 638 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 10: your last meal. There's a ton of life ahead and 639 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 10: a ton of greatness ahead. So getting pro athlete to 640 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 10: think about it that way is part of our mission. 641 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 10: But it's also a joy because they're just incredible people 642 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 10: to be around. 643 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: Turan, can you give us your idea on that? 644 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 5: And did you not like the word retired when you 645 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 5: were done playing either? And what drove you to, you know, 646 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 5: come together with Chip on this and what really interested you. 647 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: About the next chapter for athletes and for yourself. 648 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, I was ready to be done, so I didn't 649 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 12: care what word. Physically, I had reached my limits, you know, 650 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 12: so it was time for me to step away from 651 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 12: the game. I love the fact that Chip used meals 652 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 12: as the analogy there, because athletes, we have such an 653 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 12: appetite for work and a schedule and structure direction, and 654 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 12: most times guys post career have no idea where to 655 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 12: go with that appetite and you end up being junk food. 656 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 6: And Pack has changed. 657 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 12: That table, you know what I mean, if I can 658 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 12: stay in that analogy changed that table and allowed us 659 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 12: to find a new roadmap and be around those who 660 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 12: are approaching you for the right reasons, willing to teach, 661 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 12: to walk you through to also use your talent and abilities, 662 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 12: your strengths, things that you do really well from a 663 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 12: communication standpoint, teamwork, leadership, execution, being showing up on Tom 664 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 12: all those skills that are valuable in the corporate world 665 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 12: that are also parallel and sports as well. 666 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 6: So Pack has been incredible. 667 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 12: It's been an answer for a lot of athletes, current 668 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 12: and former to find their new path, new passions, new 669 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 12: desires in a healthy way. 670 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 9: We're talking with Chip Pausik and Turan Armstead. Chip is 671 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 9: the co founder and co CEO of Pro Athlete Community 672 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 9: and Doron is a PACK board member. Chip, I want 673 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 9: to ask you, what are the biggest mistakes athletes make 674 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 9: with their money after they're done playing well. 675 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 10: You know, people love to talk about athletes make mistakes 676 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 10: with money, but I think it has a lot more 677 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 10: to do with getting your head and heart right even 678 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 10: before you think about the story of how to be 679 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 10: smart about your business and your money, and a lot 680 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 10: of that comes down to having great people around you. 681 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 10: And so one of the things you find is that 682 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 10: if we can put great people around great people, not 683 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 10: only will you prevent mistakes, but you'll drive much greater 684 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 10: opportunities for the players. So I think the narrative around 685 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 10: sort of thirty for thirty broke. When people think of PACK, 686 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 10: it's the first thing they think of. They think of 687 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 10: this notion that, oh, my god, these pros they spend 688 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 10: their money foolishly and they're gone broke, and they don't 689 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 10: realize how challenging that whole setup can be. When you 690 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 10: know you were the one percent of the one percent 691 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 10: of the one percent of the one percent. You know, 692 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 10: you're not just the best athlete in your high school. 693 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 10: You're the best athlete in your hometown and sometimes in 694 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 10: your and you've been uniquely passionately focused on the athletic pursuit. 695 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 10: But you know, like so, I was a public company 696 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 10: CEO for ten years. My last company got pretty big. 697 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 10: I took a public and became one of the bigger 698 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 10: online education companies in the world. The reason I say 699 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 10: that is, you know, not to brag about my story. 700 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 10: When I was doing that, the transition out of it 701 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 10: is extremely challenging when you have this big apparatus. And 702 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 10: what's interesting about pros is when they're in the games, 703 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 10: it doesn't matter what game, the transition from the sport 704 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 10: into the rest of the world. When I was a 705 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 10: public CEO, my board was interested in me being well 706 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 10: rounded and having other pursuits when you're playing and t 707 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 10: Stead can talk about this like the world doesn't want 708 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 10: to hear about you doing anything but playing football or 709 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 10: playing basketball. And even worse than that, if you're a 710 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 10: player that isn't at the top. You know, and granted 711 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 10: Toronto was one of the best left tackles in the league, honestly, 712 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 10: but if you're a Bubble player, you're really worried about 713 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 10: getting cut if they hear that. 714 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 11: You're doing anything but football. 715 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 10: One of the reasons we have a bunch of career accelerators, 716 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 10: so you know, we help people get jobs. There's no 717 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 10: shame in coming out of the league and going to 718 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 10: get a job. Some guys didn't make a ton of 719 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 10: money in the league. The entire notion really of pros 720 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 10: going broke. There's no question the financial literacy is part 721 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 10: of Pack, but he was actually a surprisingly small part 722 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 10: of Pack. There's much more to this story. And you know, 723 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 10: as a as a founder of companies, you know, the 724 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 10: fact that there was no YPO for pro sports kind 725 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 10: of blew me away. You know, as a founder or CEO, 726 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 10: there's a bunch of affiliation groups that are continually asking. 727 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 11: You to join. How is it possible that there wasn't 728 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 11: this for pro sports? 729 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 10: Well, now there is, and I feel like we're you know, 730 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 10: we're seeing the benefit of it just with the sort 731 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 10: of global growth that we're getting. 732 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: And Tron when you're having conversations with other athletes and 733 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: you're talking to other members of the community. What are 734 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: those conversations like when they are thinking about transitioning or 735 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: even not, Like like Chipin mentioned, you have to start 736 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: thinking about this right when you're still playing sometimes, So 737 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 5: what are those conversations like with other athletes for you? 738 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 12: It's been it's been great, honestly to see the evolution 739 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 12: of conversation from athletes. When I first got into the 740 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 12: NFL twenty thirteen, we had zero discussion of business, zero 741 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 12: discussion of anything. 742 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 6: Outside of the sport. 743 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 12: So I'm drafted to New Orleans with the Saints and 744 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 12: the only guy that I know is doing business was 745 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 12: Drew Brigges. And it's been great over my twelve year 746 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 12: career and being a year removed to see the evolution 747 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 12: of that change and the conversations start in the locker room. 748 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 12: Guys having build flow conversations, Guys partnering, really pursuing business 749 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 12: opportunities in different ventures while playing while active planning seeds 750 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 12: outside of the building, outside of the locker room. Tremendous 751 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 12: and it needs to continue. The education of finance needs 752 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 12: to continue. The education of business needs to continue. More 753 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 12: than just doing deals and throwing money at situations. Guys 754 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 12: that can do that, but continueing to have those conversations, 755 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 12: continue to make that a part of our new normal 756 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 12: is exciting. 757 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 4: And when did that start changing? Do you think? Like, 758 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: when did you see the change in the locker room 759 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: and what drove it? 760 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: Do you think? 761 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 12: Honestly, I would say COVID removing us from the normal 762 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 12: locker room, removing us from the game, and a lot 763 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 12: of sense too, put a lot of things into perspective 764 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 12: how easily this can be gone or taken away or 765 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 12: come to a halt. I think it allowed guys to 766 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 12: pursue more interest, to find other things to keep them busy, 767 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 12: to put their top effort and energy behind. 768 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 6: I think COVID was. 769 00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 12: It propelled these conversations in the business mindset to start 770 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 12: to set in and the majority of athletes across all sports. 771 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 9: I want to give to Roan a shout out because 772 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 9: I always loved talking about these. You founded the Tran 773 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 9: Armstead Foundation, a nonprofit organization. 774 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 12: Tell us about that it's been This foundation has been 775 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 12: a journey. Okay, So I started in my second year 776 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 12: in the league. We've been active now for twelve years, 777 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 12: and I had no idea what I was doing. Honestly, 778 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 12: I didn't just being around the game. I hear guys 779 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 12: talk about programs that they came up in, whether it's 780 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 12: Boys and Girls club or YMCA leagues and all these things. 781 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 12: In my hometown in southern Illinois, we didn't have any 782 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 12: of those. So when I got the opportunity to not 783 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 12: only start my foundation and do giveaways and give backs 784 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 12: and all those things to be active in the community. 785 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 12: But I built a community center, I bootstrapped it completely. 786 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 6: I wouldn't advise anyone to do that, all right. I 787 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 6: learned a lesson in finance there. 788 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 12: But it's active and we have a forty thousand square 789 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 12: foot facility, two conference rooms, two event spaces, eight classrooms, 790 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 12: computer lab, game room, music studio. We just opened up 791 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 12: our tutoring program and the goal really is to educate, 792 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 12: introduce exposed. Chip his the mantra the slogan of package Exposure, 793 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 12: Breeze Expansion, and we've adopted that in my team Armstead 794 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 12: Community Center, so where we're trying to expose the community 795 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 12: to industries and walk a lot different walks of life 796 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 12: that they don't even know exists. Honestly, where I'm from 797 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 12: is sports or music, and by music, I mean rap 798 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 12: that's it. 799 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 6: So we're really trying to expand the minds. 800 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 12: So many career paths to be had, but getting the 801 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 12: education first. Always putting education as the foundation of no 802 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 12: matter what you're doing, putting education as a foundation and 803 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 12: growing from there. 804 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 5: That was Chip Palsak, the CEO and founder of Pro 805 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 5: Athlete Community, and former NFL player and packboard member Tron Armstead. 806 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 5: That's it for today. 807 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. 808 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 5: Tune in again next week for the latest on the 809 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 5: stories moving big money in the world of sports. 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