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Speaker 3: Tesslon figure Out on the Black Effect Podcast networking. Well, Hello, everybody,

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Speaker 3: Straight Shot No Chaser family.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody in the comments.

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Speaker 3: We are live straight Shot No Chaser on the Black

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Speaker 3: Effect Podcast Network. I am your host, tesslim Figureo. You

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Speaker 3: are my co hosts, my co teacher, my straight shooter.

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Speaker 3: I want to appreciate everybody for joining me on this

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Speaker 3: particular show that is so, so so critically important. I

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Speaker 3: have Christy Williams here with Black History Saturdays. You guys

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Speaker 3: has been somebody that I have supported for a minute

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Speaker 3: and in Tulsa, Oklahoma. She also was one of the

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Speaker 3: trainers for the Push the Line training that we did

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Speaker 3: So she's been the trainee, the trainer, and now just

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Speaker 3: completely taking over the Black History Saturday space as the founder,

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Speaker 3: to explain to you with Black History Saturdays is all

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Speaker 3: about how the program became. They've mentioned it on the

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Speaker 3: Saying, the lady you know, started Black History Saturdays because

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Speaker 3: votes Republican in every single county. Christy took it upon

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Speaker 3: our Heart Radio the audio version, but I have now

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Speaker 1: So welcome Christy, thanks for joining the show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, and I am so proud

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Well, how did you start Black

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Speaker 3: History Saturdays? You know, let's get straight into that. What

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So in Oklahoma they passed us our governor, Governor Stick,

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Speaker 3: Is this a I know it's every Saturday, but when

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm slow, Christy, maybe I'm slow. I got my

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Speaker 4: So it is it is an actual class where we

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Speaker 1: Make it real clear. Ye is that twelve month program.

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Speaker 4: It is a ten month program because we're out December

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Speaker 3: Hey yeah, you assist there. Want to help you on

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Speaker 3: It's five modules, five classes to complete the program. Push

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Speaker 3: This has grown organically so you haven't had to really

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Speaker 4: the news was on and I saw Johnny Cochrane and

436
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 4: Charles Ogletree on the news, and I seen these survivors

437
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: telling their stories, and I says what I'm Janie said,

438
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 4: And so ever since then, I always wanted to learn

439
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 4: more and be an advocate for Greenwood. And that's what

440
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: I've been doing ever since. And so that is my

441
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 4: connection to Greenwood. And when I say I'm a Creek

442
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: Freeman descended, a lot of people don't know. The five

443
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 4: civilized tribes here in Oklahoma own slaves, you know, And

444
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: that kind of blows people minds when you talk about that.

445
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: But my great great grandfather, Jesse Franklin, came on the

446
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: trailer tears as a slave to the Creek Nation. We

447
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: were in ancipated June fourteenth, eighteen sixty six, got a

448
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: whole different June teen than the June teenth that we

449
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 4: celebrate nationally. But he also was appointed to serve as

450
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: Supreme Court Justice to the Creek Nation in eighteen seventy four.

451
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: So I have a deep roots not only in green Wood,

452
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Speaker 4: but in Black Oklahoma history.

453
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Speaker 1: As we call it.

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people don't know about Oklahoma history

455
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: and that the flag is a Native American flag and

456
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: that it's heavy, heavy, heavy, you know, Native American ancestry

457
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: and all of that, and you do it.

458
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk with Chrissy.

459
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: Look, you know like she ain't no fight of knowing

460
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: that she's sol and got a little sweet boys, but

461
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 3: really be putting it down for real, because you're done

462
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: follow a lot to make sure that Black Creek has voice.

463
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit. I just want people just

464
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: know a little bit about that, like some of the

465
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: challenges you've had to you know that you've advocated for that.

466
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: You called me on my phone about I'm making.

467
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Sure you know that people don't forget you know that

468
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: a lot of the Native Americans own slaves and what

469
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: that looked like for uh, the descendants of Black Creek

470
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: to have access to Native American benefits, which is different

471
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: than talk about because a lot. Because when I invited

472
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: you RACI Route, I was like, Chris, everybody don't know

473
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: about the name, Like they literally know what you're talking about,

474
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 3: because if you're from that part of the country, they

475
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about. So we have the

476
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: reparations and I want you to talking about that the

477
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 3: community that you're working on up there. But then there's

478
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: a whole other conversation on Native Americans who owned slaves,

479
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: which means they became Creek because of their slave master.

480
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: Just give people a little bit of knowledge on that.

481
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and ooh, that's a whole other history lesson

482
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: in it.

483
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: Uh.

484
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: But when we talk about the Five Civilized tribes, there's

485
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: the Creek, Cherokee, the Chickasaw, the Seminole, and I missed

486
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: it one Creek. It's Creek, Creek, Cherito, Chickasaw, Seminole, and

487
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: Chickasawce that's I already said. Anyways, five of them, and

488
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: they called them the five civilized tribes. They called them

489
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: civilized because they sided with white supremacy in their own slaves.

490
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 4: We again, as I talked about the Creek Nation. We

491
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: were emancipated June fourteenth, eighteen sixty six, which means that

492
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: we became Creeks. We actually became members of the tribes.

493
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: And then a few years later on the Dolls Roads

494
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: they allotted land. Each family got one hundred and sixty

495
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 4: acres of land.

496
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: So just to be clear, not born Native American became native.

497
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: Like if you married into a family, if.

498
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: You will absolutely absolutely okay, and then you got one

499
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty acres of land. And if you had

500
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: a family twelve even if it was a little baby,

501
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: everybody got twelve acre, mean one hundred and sixty acres

502
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: of land. And a lot of that land was oil,

503
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: so which made a lot of black folks wealthy. Everybody

504
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: went to see the movie Killer of the Blood Flower

505
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 4: Moon and they showed the o sage women who were

506
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: raped and killed for their land. But it happened to

507
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: a lot of black people too, and so that story

508
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 4: just hasn't been told. But as far as the Creek Nation,

509
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: we were kicked out of the tribes in nineteen seventy nine,

510
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 4: so we lost everything. And so as we're talking about reparations,

511
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: we're talking about reparations.

512
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: Calls right there going fast. Why were you kicked out

513
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: of the tribe of nineteen seventy nine?

514
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 4: Basically because they didn't want to share the pie, you know, Yeah,

515
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: they wanted the money to themselves that they were getting

516
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: and they didn't want to share it. So basically, I

517
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: mean they kicked us out. And so there have been

518
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: lawsuits to try to get us back into those tribes

519
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: the Cherokee Nation. About four years ago they actually won

520
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: their case, and so those black Cherokees are now they're

521
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: black Cherokees, and so a lot and tells a lot

522
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 4: of them don't even really know what that means. You

523
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: have now you have a lot of black people. We're

524
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: just happy that they don't have to pay their car tax.

525
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 4: You know, they can go get healthcare, which those things

526
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: are important. But they get twenty five thousand dollars to

527
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: go to school for college, They get twenty five thousand

528
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: dollars on a home, you know those that is that

529
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: is a lot of money.

530
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Is that one of your modules that you teach?

531
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: We do treat We do teach about We talked, we

532
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: talk about Freeman, and when we say Freedman, we're talking

533
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: about freeman of the tribes. Because now there is two

534
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: there's two different meanings of that. So like when you

535
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: say black Creeks, there are black Creeks that are in

536
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: the tribe because they were actually born they either have

537
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: you know, and if you can prove that it's actually

538
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: one of your family members. We like to say the

539
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: blood rule, but we don't go buy it. You go

540
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: by the treaty and you go by the blood rule.

541
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: You're gonna be trying forever to try to prove this.

542
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: It's impossible to prove how much blood you have, right,

543
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's just too much. But you

544
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: go by the treaty because the treaty says that you know,

545
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: you are a citizen of this tribe if if if

546
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: you were born into it, or you're a freedman. And

547
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: so there's two different things. So you can be a

548
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: freedman of the tribe is but your freedmen are trying

549
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: to get back into the tribe of the Cree nation.

550
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: But black Creeks already are are members of the tribe

551
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: because they have proven that either their mother, the father,

552
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: someone was creaked by blood and you can you can prove.

553
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: That, but by blood but not by blood, but like

554
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: by own slave ownership.

555
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 4: Right if if if you were a member by slave ownership,

556
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: you are considered a freedman.

557
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha.

558
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: So this is why when when we when I merged

559
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: you in the reparations conversation and they were talking about Freeman,

560
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: they wen't talking about the same freeman you're talking about.

561
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: They were talking and that's why I was like, Christy,

562
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: they getting confused, Like you got to have something just

563
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: on that because it's not a huge population, one that

564
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: people even know they're a part of, or that even

565
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: you know that's connect the to tribe and then also

566
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: the within the small population it is. It's not a

567
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: lot of Christie's. So when when you're using that language

568
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: freemen and free, you know, it was kind of going, oh,

569
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's a whole and and maybe that's the

570
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: one we need to do on my platform, my training platform,

571
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: to just explain, you know, the differences between the two

572
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: because a lot of people just don't know. And if

573
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: you're using these words that are interchangeable, you hear freeman

574
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: a lot freemen a lot a lot of people.

575
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

576
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: In the reparence to the movement said that's how that

577
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: that's what the name should be. But they're talking about

578
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: the descendants of those enslaved, not specifically what you're talking about, Uh,

579
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: you know, of of the Cree nation.

580
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: And that's critically important.

581
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, it.

582
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: Was something I was gonna ask with that, And guys,

583
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: if you got a question, put it three up and

584
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: I'll drop the link if you got a question. It

585
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: was something I was gonna ask about that though about Oh,

586
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: that was a statement I was gonna make. This is

587
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: critically important not to be the divisive between indigenous people,

588
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: but this is critically important because shout out to my

589
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: sisters who mothers Native American and I don't know what

590
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: tribe she's from, she's black. Native American. Queen is on

591
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: my Instagram all the time. I interviewed her before on

592
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: Straight Shoting No Chaser, and there's this conversation that, you know,

593
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: Native Americans and Blacks were hand in hand and loving

594
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: on each other and were kind of the same, and

595
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: you know, lift all both times, and that might be

596
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: true in some in isn't.

597
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: But what you're talking about wasn't.

598
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: The black folks got put out that they did not

599
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: want you to have been It was all good until

600
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: it came down to sharing those resources.

601
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: And my understanding that currically.

602
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: You're right that it was not a clue by your type,

603
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: moment or theme. As we were coming on the trailer tears,

604
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: I was taught in Oklahoma history that like we were,

605
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: we came as Kumbai yai, right, But no, that was

606
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: not the case. Black folks was actually building the trail

607
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: on the trailer tears for them to walk through to

608
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: walk on. But as I was saying, when we talk

609
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: about this, you know how they treated their slaves. The

610
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: Chickasaw was one of the worst. They identified their slaves

611
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: by removing digits on your toes or your fingers. So

612
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: if you had a thumbus and they knew who you

613
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: belonged to, or if your pinky toe was missing, they

614
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: knew who you belonged to. And you can read the

615
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: Oklahoma slave narratives. A lot of it is free online.

616
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: The other book you'd have to buy, but you can

617
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: read the stories of these people who were recorded like

618
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: in the nineteen thirties and forties that tell the stories

619
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: of being slaves to the trots. So these stories exist.

620
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: A lot of people just don't know about it. A

621
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: lot of black Oklahoma history of people just don't know

622
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: and that's Okla.

623
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody talking about o'lahma. That's roight me.

624
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: I'd be like, Chris, you got to break this down

625
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: because I don't know what you're talking about. They really,

626
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: even in Oklahoma, I don't know what they're talking about.

627
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: And this is why it's important you know what you're doing.

628
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm dropping anybody have any questions, uh, and this is

629
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: if you come on, I need you to ask the question,

630
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, just go straight to asking the question.

631
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: I want to be respectful of Christy's time.

632
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: Any questions about the program, if you are in position

633
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: to support, I do have the cash app here Cash

634
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: app Black History nine to one eight five dollars ten dollars.

635
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: It is a nonprofit program. National Geographic does support the program.

636
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

637
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: The program is free to those that are tend in Tulsa.

638
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: She does not charge people to come, so it is

639
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: an absolute free class. So that's important guys that people

640
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: know that. But again, we can't just expect everything to

641
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: just keep being for you know, we have to. I'm

642
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: being very honest and what I'm telling you this personally,

643
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: I want to help Christy expand the program over the country,

644
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: and I do want her to have other income sources

645
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: coming in because the reality of it is, no, there's

646
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: not a ZEL link.

647
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: People have to give out their numbers on ZEL.

648
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Y'all love being on ZEL, but people when y'all in

649
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: these public formats, guys, people don't really give out their

650
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: ZEL because it has to give out their phone number

651
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: or uh, you know, their email address. You have a

652
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Speaker 3: way to donate on the website, correct is ww what

653
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Speaker 3: Black History Saturdays.

654
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Speaker 1: With an S dot com?

655
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Speaker 4: Three Saturdays with the S dot com. You can donate

656
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Speaker 4: there as well.

657
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Speaker 3: Right, So go to Black History Saturdays with an as

658
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Speaker 3: dot com if you want to donate through that link.

659
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Speaker 1: But I do want her to expand the program because.

660
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: It's important to have other strings besides us having to

661
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: depend on large organizations.

662
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Because what happens is and that y'all just getting information.

663
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: Now, what happens is if we have if we're one

664
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Speaker 3: hundred percent dependent upon other organizations, then what happens if

665
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: that organization decides they don't want it.

666
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: Anymore, and that means we don't have the program.

667
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: So this is on the three things that I keep

668
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: telling y'all about Safe Stack remember the third one is secure,

669
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: secure the permit. But I also talk about securing our nonprofits,

670
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: securing organizations that matter, securing podcasts you care about secure

671
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: and a part of that is through donation. And I

672
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: want to give another t be because you know, y'all

673
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: get trained with me, not just no podcasts to the

674
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: system asked about Zel, I really do this is important, guys.

675
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: I really do want you, guys, if we are going to,

676
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: you know, really try to secure our organizations. I do

677
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: want you guys to consider. I know a lot of

678
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 3: people may not like cash apt because maybe you say

679
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 3: you know the security of it or the issue, but guys,

680
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: I really want you to secure, to have another way

681
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: to send people payments, and cash app is usually the way,

682
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: or vemo blat people don't use Vemo. But that's important, guys,

683
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: because if everybody say, well does she have a Zel?

684
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: Does she have a Zel, then nobody's gonna get any

685
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: donations because most people, I'm just telling you, when they're

686
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: on these national programs, they're not.

687
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Speaker 1: Because even the sisters still asking for a Zeil link.

688
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Nobody ain't no Zel.

689
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: You have to go to the website if you want

690
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: to pay that way but I want you, guys to

691
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: consider other ways of supporting people besides needing their personal

692
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: information like an email or a number. My zeal is

693
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: connected to my email. I don't want my personal email

694
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: out there because then I will get floody. I think

695
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: about when people are on national platforms. They don't want

696
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: people flooding in with their personal email. They don't want

697
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Speaker 3: people having their numbers. So ZEL again, you know you're

698
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: always gonna get trained. ZEL is for you giving money

699
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: to your friends, you know, within your circle and your

700
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: folks and all of that.

701
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: Supporting organizations, you have to use other resources.

702
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: Like PayPal, like quick books, like cash out, like the

703
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: most The reason why people use the cash aup guys

704
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: because it's the simplest way to give.

705
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: It's the easiest way to give, and most people have it.

706
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: So please consider that if you want to be in

707
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: the business of trying to figure out how we can

708
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: support our organizations, because I see that a lot, Christy,

709
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: when I see you know, on different platforms and people saying,

710
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: well what is or azel people keep asking aboutself. That's

711
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: for your own internal you know, uh, communications with friends

712
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 3: and maybe stuff like that. So please consider cash app guys.

713
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: Because I want to help Christy really expand this program. Uh.

714
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: And again you can go to the website ww dot

715
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Speaker 3: black History Saturdays with an s dot com. So we'll

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Speaker 3: take a question from Lovey, and Lovey just getting straight

717
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: to the question, sweet, I don't want to because I

718
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: want to be respectful of her time. If anybody else

719
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: has a question, click the lie at the bottom. I'll

720
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: put the link again at the bottom to ask the

721
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: question and then we'll get out of here.

722
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Speaker 1: So go ahead, love it. What's your question?

723
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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 5: My question is, first of all, I love what you do.

725
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Speaker 5: Shout out to my wife test you'll know, Chris, that's

726
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: my wife right there, Salt to my wife test Es.

727
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Speaker 2: I love what you do.

728
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 5: I'm a son of a black panther. I have a

729
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: quick question. The two part question is your this is

730
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Speaker 5: available online?

731
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Speaker 4: This?

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Speaker 5: Of course that I could push the I'm ment to

733
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Speaker 5: a lot of fallbers, and I think this will be

734
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 5: important for them to hear your word.

735
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: Is this something I could push you online? That to

736
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 4: push you online?

737
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: Yes?

738
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Speaker 4: And actually, uh, the second Saturday in May, we will

739
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Speaker 4: be kicking off our online versions as well, so you'll

740
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 4: be there'll be more. I mean, so many opportunities for

741
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: you to click in online. So everyone can, you know,

742
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: have some lessons in black history, guys. I think it's

743
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: and we can moving that number.

744
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 5: We're trying to get to three hundred to three thousand

745
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Speaker 5: to three hundred thousand with the power of Taz and I.

746
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Speaker 4: So we're gonna keep moving that needle.

747
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Speaker 1: Something my mother told me.

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Speaker 5: I always refer to my mom because he was the

749
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Speaker 5: black people. She told me one thing that she thinks

750
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Speaker 5: segregation was the worst thing to happen to us. But

751
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Speaker 5: she also just tapped into me and said she thinks

752
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Speaker 5: that by the force of hearing of the President that be,

753
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Speaker 5: that is forcing us back into segregation.

754
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people think the segregation was the

755
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Speaker 3: best thing, Like keep us over here and y'all go

756
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Speaker 3: over there.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what the native of America did.

758
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Speaker 3: They segregated, got their own land, got their own you know,

759
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: they're still within America, but still got their.

760
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Speaker 1: Own, you know, own thing.

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Speaker 3: So right now, it's definitely thanks for your question of it.

762
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: It's definitely uh, you know, forcing people to uh you know,

763
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: have to network and uh be of community in ways

764
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: they have never been, uh.

765
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Speaker 1: You know before.

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Speaker 3: So I think I think it's a it's a good thing.

767
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: I think it's going to make us really have to connect. Uh,

768
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: we happened before, and what I'm hoping that it's not

769
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: just a you know, stuff happens and spikes that people

770
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: feel really good and then they go back to you know,

771
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Speaker 3: business as usual.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that this is something that you know,

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Speaker 1: we can continue on. And as far as.

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Speaker 3: Online, she's rolling out online but also within the Push

775
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: the Line online training program that we're kicking off in June.

776
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Speaker 3: Christy will be a part of that as a trainer

777
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Speaker 3: for one of our organizers on how to organize these

778
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Speaker 3: types of things because I see people asking, you know,

779
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: can I teach you myself? Is it something I can curriculum?

780
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Speaker 3: And and guys, I'm gonna say this, and I'm saying

781
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Speaker 3: it respectfully as possible. It's a reason why you know,

782
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Speaker 3: I know, people think they can just duplicate, you know,

783
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Speaker 3: what somebody else does, and Chrissy's handing out their curriculum

784
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Speaker 3: so people can know. But guys try to invest in

785
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Speaker 3: or participate in what she's doing because the knowledge that

786
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Speaker 3: they have, the institutional knowledge that they have the information

787
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Speaker 3: that they have you may not have. I know, we

788
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Speaker 3: always say, well, we can just teach it ourselves, or

789
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Speaker 3: you know that happened with COVID. Yeah, but you don't

790
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Speaker 3: know everything to teach you do?

791
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Speaker 1: You just don't. You don't you're not knee deep in

792
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Speaker 1: it on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: I can give you a curriculum to say, teach people

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Speaker 3: the five things that you matter of fact, we'll use

795
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Speaker 3: push the line example. These are the five things that

796
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Speaker 3: you need to do to start your campaign. The information

797
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm giving you you can find online.

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Speaker 1: It's no secret.

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Speaker 2: You know.

800
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Speaker 3: It's not like, Okay, it's going to say open up

801
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Speaker 3: a website, start a website, open up a bank account.

802
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: But the knowledge that you're going to get from me

803
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: and from other experts, we're going to tell you, hey,

804
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: but when I open up that bank account, this is

805
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: what I learned. Look out for this, look out for that.

806
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: So guys connect with the actual teachers. It's a reason,

807
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: you know, why you have people who are knee deep

808
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: in this stuff that's gonna give you information that you

809
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: may not otherwise know. So for those of you that

810
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: are saying, oh, is it a curriculum that I can learn,

811
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Speaker 3: I'm cautioning Christy on that, making sure that as she's

812
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: giving that information out, we do want you to run

813
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: with it on your own, because Christy is just like that.

814
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: She want to run with it on.

815
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Speaker 3: She want everybody sign up online, get it, get it,

816
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: get to get it. But I also want to make

817
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: sure that we're educating people properly and that you know

818
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Speaker 3: that you're getting the information from me in the classroom.

819
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: So when they do the online, gather your family around,

820
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, have people around learn it, learn it, you know,

821
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Speaker 3: learn what the teachers.

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Speaker 1: It's called train the trainer. I trained Christy, she training y'all.

823
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Speaker 1: She gonna train somebody else.

824
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Speaker 2: You know.

825
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Speaker 3: We must be okay with norm what we know and

826
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Speaker 3: norm what we don't know. And I want to be

827
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Speaker 3: clear about that because a lot of people have asked

828
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Speaker 3: for the curriculum.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let me just learn it.

830
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Speaker 3: Well, no, you would need to learn everything in her head.

831
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Speaker 3: Wanted to teach it the way she taught it. So

832
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: respect the gift, respect the craft, and more importantly, let's

833
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: teach our babies the right way. And that comes from

834
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Speaker 3: your expertise.

835
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Speaker 4: So absolutely, and tess one thing that I really want

836
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 4: to stress to people because a lot of black folks

837
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 4: don't really get it or understand how critical this is.

838
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Speaker 4: There's eighteen other states that has the same or similar

839
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: legislation that right now to Oklahoma has where they're restricting

840
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Speaker 4: or just completely banning black history from public schools. And

841
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Speaker 4: then also just between twenty twenty twenty three and twenty

842
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: twenty four, there's ten thousand books that were banned, and

843
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: that tripled the number than it was the year before.

844
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Speaker 1: And so in the book worth breaking news, it's gonna

845
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Speaker 1: get worse.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get worse. And in the books that they

847
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: are banning are majority all black books, right, any book

848
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Speaker 4: that has to deal with race or gender, they're completely

849
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Speaker 4: just they're just banning. And so and what's in those books?

850
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: Our stories that that are in these books, and so

851
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: we're going back.

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Speaker 1: You have a banned book library, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have a band book library where I started

854
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: my own library where community can come in and check

855
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: out band books. Even at my church when I started,

856
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: we have Reverend Franceta, Reverend i Am Martin Att of

857
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Speaker 4: the historic vernon Ami Church. Uh, they at least a

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Speaker 4: wolf she does our Sunday school. But they they started

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Speaker 4: a band book library. I mean a band book club. So, uh,

860
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 4: they pick a band book and everybody reads the band book.

861
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: And so there are things like that. I think that

862
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: communities can do in response to that as well. But

863
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: I'll say, if these band books, y'all need to buy

864
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: these books up, you know, and keep them at home.

865
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Speaker 4: It's just and what happened with the National Park Service

866
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Speaker 4: in the Smithsonian, these are things that are telling us

867
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Speaker 4: that we got to start preserving our history and learning it.

868
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Speaker 4: And if you don't learn it, you don't even know

869
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Speaker 4: what they're doing to it. If you're not you know,

870
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 4: equip with that knowledge to know. So we have to

871
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: learn our history. It's so important.

872
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Yes, ever, he's asking, you know, is there a cost

873
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: for each person to participate? That's the whole thing.

874
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: She does it for free. But I'm telling you now,

875
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm changing that. I need her to have another source.

876
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: So don't even answer the quest. I'll answer this question, Christy,

877
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 3: because you'll start saying, I'm just gonna know. That's why

878
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: we sit over it broke. Now, you know, from keep Free,

879
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: Free Free, everybody want the information, everybody want to take

880
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: the information, everybody want the gift. But again, the program

881
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: she offers in Tulsa in person is free, but I'm

882
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: working with her on a and even even on the

883
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: streaming she's doing is free. But again we need another

884
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: way of another source. I do not want it completely

885
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: dependent upon national geographic I just don't. So to answer

886
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: your question, Ebany, what I'm trying to do with her

887
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: on my platform is yes, you know, like couple of hours,

888
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: whatever it is. Whatever that might be twenty five bucks,

889
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: it might be it's something very small, you know, but

890
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: at least it's putting something, you know, back into the

891
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: actual program. And I encourage people to sit around, like

892
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 3: five of y'all sit around and put it on the TV,

893
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: you know, and watch it or put it on the

894
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, interactive. So to ask your question, Ebany, I'm

895
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: working on that with her. But she does have free

896
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: you know, it's free every Saturday, and the streaming is

897
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: gonna be free. But again I'm just telling you in

898
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 3: front of everybody, because I'm definitely gonna call you bat

899
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: when I get off the phone.

900
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: You offering this streaming free over and over and over.

901
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: Christy, I do have concern with that because when if

902
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: you're asking people to donate out of the kindess of

903
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: they heart. I'm just telling you they may not, and

904
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: I know that's a part of your work, just wanting

905
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: to give it away for free. But I am dead ass,

906
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: and I'm just saying this. I am appreciative of National

907
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: Geographic giving you the money and the resources.

908
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: But as you know, you don't have to say it,

909
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: I'll say it for Christy. The money is limited. It's

910
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: not that much.

911
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: And again, we do not want to just depend on

912
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: National Geographic to fund that black program, so we have

913
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: to get more creative and make things kind of make sense.

914
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: So if you attend the free streaming that she's doing,

915
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: please donate. She's not gonna ask, I'm asking. I'm asking

916
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: donate because if not, Guys, this is why they they

917
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: can stop and start everything we're doing because they control

918
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: the money.

919
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: They control the money. So Ebany, I hope to answer

920
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: your question. It is absolutely free.

921
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: And I'm saying that as somebody had to learn that

922
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: my own way. Christy, you know, everything I've done has

923
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: been free, free, free, free training, free training. Less they're

924
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: a client of mine, we gotta stop that. We haven't

925
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: stopped that because at the end of the day, it

926
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: does the program doesn't grow. We don't get the people

927
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: that we need to participate to be a part of it.

928
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: We're taking the hits. You know, Christy putting her name

929
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: out here, first and last name, where everybody else, you know,

930
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: going under fake names and you know, get to hide.

931
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: And Christy can't get no job nowhere. It's a real thing.

932
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: She is to have our Instagram under a different name

933
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: because she didn't want her job to see what she

934
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: was doing. She literally just changed it a couple of

935
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: weeks ago when I rolled her out national, I was like, Christy,

936
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: people got to be able to find you, and they

937
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: can't find you under these four and five different names.

938
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: How don't they talid eight nine to two, they have

939
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: to find you for a five minute? You appreciate this

940
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: real game I'm giving you. So see y'all get to

941
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: go by and I'm just looking at the comments, lips galore,

942
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: culture of uh just looking at the name Ebanie Jone

943
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: that sounds like a real name, Evan Webers but meals

944
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: coop all that y'all get to go under different names,

945
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: which I appreciate.

946
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: But who's taking the hit?

947
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 3: Christy Williams and teseslim figuero meaning not going to get

948
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: another job, people that don't want to hire you, people

949
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: that say no, you're gonna be a problem on the job,

950
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: people that say, you know, hey, we don't want you

951
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: around here. People that literally go after their way to

952
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 3: destroy your programs. So what I'm asking is, if we're

953
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: going to take if people like us are going to

954
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: be out here front lining it, taking the hit, then

955
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: be like on the Verizon commercial and being a background

956
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 3: supporting us. Guys, it's really really important. It's really really

957
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: important because it's only so much you can continue to

958
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: keep asking people to do for free.

959
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: It really really is.

960
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: So guys, follow Christy. She's on my on my Instagram.

961
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: Is Christy is it Underscore Williams Underscore Black Wills your Instagram?

962
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: Uh huh, it's Christy Williams, Christy Underscore Williams.

963
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we got something else after that. It's not just

964
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Christy Williams. It's let me look at.

965
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: I'm literally just changing.

966
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: Like Tess this said, Underscore Williams, Underscore Black, Underscore History

967
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: And if you can't find it, it's in my stories.

968
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: She's on my page, She's on our remote news page.

969
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: If not hit Marcella's up he'll give you information, but

970
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: again we'll be rolling her out in our programs. I

971
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: want to help what I what I can do to

972
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 3: share my platform to make this something national. But again,

973
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to work Christy to death either. She

974
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: has fifty five jobs, you know, in addition to this,

975
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: she's feeding people, you know, full programs, guys, And I'm

976
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: just telling you straight up. She needs the resources you know,

977
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: and order to be able to do it.

978
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: But you get to be a part of it.

979
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: You're not getting You're not just giving and not getting

980
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: anything if you go pay fifty dollars for one of

981
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: those classes, twenty five dollars for one of those you

982
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: know where they make the mugs and the symmetric classes

983
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: and cook classes, you know those little classes. Twenty five

984
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: bucks and twenty five bucks. You know, it's no different, y'all.

985
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 3: Pay it to the white folks, give it to crazy.

986
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: So she's able to do this ten months for free,

987
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: for people with three hundred people in the room.

988
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 5: I do.

989
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: I want to see her be able to have some

990
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: revenue come in so that way, if the company doesn't

991
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: want to fund her in the fourth year, she can

992
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: continue to do the work. Guys, so thank you so

993
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: much Christy for coming on.

994
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: I ate you.

995
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 3: I hope, guys we were able to answer your questions.

996
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: Please replay this, share this YouTube interview, and also it

997
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: will be on the Black Effect podcast network the audio

998
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: version for those of you to love, just audio only,

999
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: and thank you for tapping in.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Christy. Expect to see more of Christy.

1001
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: I honor her last month of Black History for Women's

1002
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: History Month, so you're gonna continue to see me supporting her.

1003
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Speaker 3: Thank you to all my supportive folks in the comments,

1004
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: love me. Marcella's as usual lifts glow. I do see

1005
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: you a lot in the comments, so I appreciate you

1006
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: and all of you guys that rock with me. Subscribe

1007
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: to the channel. We're gonna keep using this YouTube channel.

1008
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep getting the digital discipline. Everybody else on

1009
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: the Black Effect is on YouTube and the audio. I'm

1010
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: copy the only one that haven't utilized my YouTube, and

1011
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm changing that because again, we want to make sure

1012
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: that we're growing and right now more than ever, we

1013
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: need these resources out to the guys.

1014
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. I appreciate you, guys, and

1015
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: we'll tap in next week.

1016
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,240
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1017
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1018
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