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Speaker 1: What's up this way?

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Speaker 2: I put Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee, and my Capricorn

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Speaker 2: sister is here.

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Speaker 3: We're in the building.

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Speaker 1: Estee.

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Speaker 3: How good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm actually really good?

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Speaker 4: Mom.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I was talking about you the other day with

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Speaker 2: Ada Rodriguez. She told me she has an amazing interview

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Speaker 2: that she did with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did on her new podcast. I'm excited for.

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Speaker 2: Being Oh man, I can't. She was telling she was

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Speaker 2: excited about it.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 1: You know it's good. But listen, you're a pro at

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Speaker 1: this anyway.

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Speaker 3: So it frounn and behind now ye.

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Speaker 1: Do you like?

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Speaker 3: I mean? I love that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're so like multi faceted when it

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Speaker 2: comes to being an artist, but also being a host,

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Speaker 2: also doing voiceovers, also curating playlist, just all things.

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Speaker 3: All the things.

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Speaker 4: It's the idea of, like when you leave, you don't

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Speaker 4: want to go to be like you love the talent

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Speaker 4: gonna go through the mall.

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Speaker 1: Is it so initially for you?

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Speaker 2: Because I know you grew up in household where you

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Speaker 4: My mom was not about she was definitely churtrified, but

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Speaker 4: she you know, she gave us our freedom. That's one

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Speaker 4: thing I'll say about my mom and my family. My

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Speaker 4: mom was very much like, go and learn how to

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Speaker 4: do it, and do it. Okay, do it though, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you do it, do it, have you back up,

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Speaker 1: but do it.

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Speaker 2: But it takes a while in the beginning, you know,

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Speaker 2: and for people to understand the journey, especially for our parents,

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Speaker 2: because when things ain't happening right away and they can't understand,

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Speaker 2: and they also want to protect you exactly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I come from a huge family. There's so

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Speaker 4: many of us. People know that about me. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: but you know, like she was very much like, you're.

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Speaker 3: The oldest girl.

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Speaker 4: You have to give people the example. You have to

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Speaker 4: give the rest of them the example, so you can't up. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, and there was a lot of pressure on

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Speaker 1: They always say it's hardest for the oldest child.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that mean? They say, who takes care of

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Speaker 4: the oldest child? God or the ancestors?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that way, take care of the older youngest.

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Speaker 2: So you know, that's when everything the parents have been everything,

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Speaker 1: But the oldest one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just me, my granniece, my granddad's and the prayer.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm excited to be able to make an

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Speaker 2: announcement with you today. Yeah, me too, so and I

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Speaker 2: am honored to be able to make this announcement. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's time, it's time. It's time. It's time for more

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Speaker 2: Estelle music. Okay, we talked about all these other things

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Speaker 2: that you have going on, but it's time for some

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm back. I'm excited I'm back.

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Speaker 4: But like, here's some new music, here's something fresh. This

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Speaker 4: is my my new album's coming back. We have a

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did get a little preview and you guys

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Speaker 2: are gonna get to hear the song too. But it

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Speaker 2: feels like there's a I was trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: the sample or is there.

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Speaker 1: It's not. It sounds like it's so nostalgic feeling.

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Speaker 3: It is. This whole this whole project for me, was

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Speaker 4: So I went back into all the songs and all

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Speaker 4: joy and made me feel like myself, you know, my

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Speaker 4: favorite self, not the best.

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Speaker 3: Self, because you know, subjective.

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Speaker 4: My favorite self, and my favorite self is when I'm dancing,

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Speaker 4: when I'm having a good time.

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Speaker 3: We've been in places and spaces together and I look.

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Speaker 1: Like we had a birthday birthday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. I regret nothing. I regret nothing.

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Speaker 4: I danced so hard, But that for me was exactly

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Speaker 4: the energy, like I'm at my most joyful when I'm

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Speaker 4: dancing having fun, you know. And I had started recording

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Speaker 4: this album before that, like and throughout the Panini, the

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Speaker 4: Panic or the pandorasa, whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 4: four years that we missed, but that whole time, and

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Speaker 4: I just realized that, Yeah, it's the joy for me.

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Speaker 4: It's when I'm happiest, when I'm in my light. You

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Speaker 2: And one thing I will say about Estella, everybody knows

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Speaker 2: you loves you like you show so much love to people,

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Speaker 2: whether or not.

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Speaker 3: They deserve it, they be they believe it.

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Speaker 4: You know, everyone deserves love. You know I believe that

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 2: All right, And so so you're talking about your your

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Speaker 2: best like times and recording this this project.

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Speaker 1: How many songs right now?

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Speaker 3: We're keeping it short. It's between ten and twelve. I

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Speaker 4: I don't believe I need one hundred records on that

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Speaker 4: also I like to I like albums that are kind

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Speaker 4: of like you put it on, it runs through, and

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Speaker 3: I like those albums.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want an album where it's like.

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Speaker 3: This, I'm tired.

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Speaker 4: I don't ever want to feel tired of hearing my

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a good time too. You did

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Speaker 2: that whole nash up of American Way.

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Speaker 3: That was a vibe.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, American Boy is the song that keeps

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody people are not going to have an a urricane. Boys.

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Speaker 1: You got to appreciate it. It's forever song.

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Speaker 4: I literally pray for that song, Like when we were

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Speaker 4: going the guards. Form a record that till the end

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Speaker 4: of time I can play right, you know, to whenever whatever,

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Speaker 4: I think it's because I went and seeing it and

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Speaker 4: I was happy. I literally was smiling throughout the whole thing, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going to play and I'm going to play

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Speaker 4: it and I'm make your money back. Don't worry, We'll

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Speaker 4: be good, you know. But never needed to.

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Speaker 2: I remember reading that you were in Miami when you

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Speaker 2: did and having the time of your life Miami days.

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Speaker 4: Maybe to be young and in Miami it's a good time.

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Speaker 4: That's what Miami is for when you're young. But I

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, so where do people who go

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Speaker 3: The Santorini are in Apple at the time, it was all.

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Speaker 2: Okay because I always feel like that's the party central

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Speaker 2: feel like that because it looks like London parties be lit.

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Speaker 3: They do. Like it's subjective though it.

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Speaker 1: Is, And then you know, we'd be watching tat Boy

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Speaker 3: She get me started on that. No, No, it's all subjective,

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Speaker 4: But parties are fun when you're in the parties and

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Speaker 4: your you know. But for the majority of my life

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Speaker 4: I've been in the parties and part of the parties

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Speaker 4: and you know, and then we do have fun there.

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Speaker 4: But like as far as the sun sea sound of

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Speaker 4: it all, we don't have some sea sound like that.

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Speaker 1: I think I've been to where is it Brighton? And

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Speaker 3: Because that's that's not going to Coney Island, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Tang and so going on to it. I've been all

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Speaker 2: in Brian and being like this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even go home? What did they take you in Brien?

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Speaker 3: That's strange.

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Speaker 3: So Miami is just a different, survive, different vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right.

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Speaker 2: And so for you, like deciding that you wanted to

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Speaker 2: why did you say now, this is this is time,

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Speaker 4: I think I started recording this and I always do

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Speaker 4: I start recording in drips, and I had to one

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Speaker 4: Reckon in like twenty seventeen, another in twenty eighteen. In

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Speaker 4: between everything else I was doing, touring, losing my mind,

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Speaker 4: getting my mind back, all kinds of like emotional breakthroughs

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Speaker 4: I was recording in between it all, and I feel

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Speaker 4: like I got to a point where I was like, no,

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Speaker 4: I like this body, I like this this music, and

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Speaker 4: I think it's time to put it out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And this year, this.

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Speaker 1: Year, this year, this year, do you have a date?

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Speaker 4: I have a date that's coming out in full, I

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Speaker 4: say four, I want to I'm aiming for October. But

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Speaker 4: the very first recD comes out, I'm very very excited.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's called Oh I.

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Speaker 1: You heard me singing it.

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Speaker 2: No, don't judge okay, because it doesn't sound like that

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Speaker 3: But the way I did it, man, however you did

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Speaker 3: it sounds good. That's the point of it.

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Speaker 4: My thing is just I understand this about myself as

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Speaker 4: notice all right, records that make people feel joy and

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Speaker 4: it's however they sing it, however they get it, however

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't judge people on that.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like as a person that because you curate

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Speaker 2: music lists and you know and study music, so I'm

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Speaker 2: cure I used to hear what this whole project is

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Speaker 2: you did, because you have your own show as well,

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Speaker 2: you know, shout out to liah Stelle show Stell's house,

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 4: It's like that's what and ll that's like a double one,

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Speaker 4: Michael Like, we're not gonna put one above the other.

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Speaker 4: Easy for me because I was like, let me just

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Speaker 1: So let's go over there. Now, your favorite ten.

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Speaker 3: That's hard. It's hard. Look number one, give us your

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Speaker 4: Give you my five number one of the number two

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Speaker 4: might be Stevie and Michael drawn like, I can't decide

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Speaker 3: All right? So I would say Off the Wall over Thriller.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: So that's my that's my I can't wait to post

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Speaker 3: People are like what, and I'm like, think about it,

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Speaker 4: It's like all the albums are flashing, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: The Orange one, the orange album. What's the name of

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's hard too because sometimes I don't

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Speaker 3: The part for me that's like that I'm rediscovering about

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me see what was on that.

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Speaker 4: That whole cohesive album had me like, oh, that was

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Speaker 1: Just it felt like a broader higher ground living for

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Speaker 3: Yep, keep going. It's just back to back to back.

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Speaker 4: what are we doing? Like how did you think of this?

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Speaker 4: Where were you at in your spirit and in your time?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: How did I go to three?

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Speaker 3: Okay? All right? Prince Prep it's gonna be Prince is.

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Speaker 3: And then it gets to like Bob Marley Exodus.

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Speaker 4: And Exodus because of one knowing more about his story,

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Speaker 4: And if you think about it, there were so many

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that time period was it was

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Speaker 3: That album makes me feel seen, you.

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Speaker 4: It's a different thing here, and you know, there was

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Feel happy, the biggest cheer honor of anybody who's doing

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Speaker 3: Like I listened to words, I listened to lyrics too,

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Speaker 1: We know what it is, what it is.

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Speaker 4: you know, like it was just done. And the more

445
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 4: grown I get, the more I'm like, let's get in

446
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 4: the same room.

447
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 1: It's different, do this differently, you know, let's.

448
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 3: Get in the spirit and get the joy together and

449
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 3: really execute.

450
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 4: So you know, and then I'm very much like as

451
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 4: when I feel when I recall, when I feel instead

452
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 4: of on a schedule.

453
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,199
Speaker 1: So what was the process like recording this?

454
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 4: Four hours? I recalled because half of it was in

455
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,959
Speaker 4: the Panini. So me and a producer, Keith Harris, were like.

456
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 4: I was like, Keith, I have an idea. Have you

457
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 4: got four hours?

458
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 3: And he'd be like cool.

459
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 4: So it's me and him, my manager and maybe his

460
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 4: right hand guy, and we went in the studio four

461
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 4: hours at a time and our vocal and he would

462
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 4: produce and I would leave, and then he sent me

463
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 4: a finished track and it's like we did every single record.

464
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: Why is four hours your magic number?

465
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like it's almost like

466
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 3: God doesn't let me. This is my theory.

467
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 4: If I go over four hours, I feel like I

468
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 4: start overthinking it, okay, And God doesn't want me to

469
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 4: overthink things. He likes to just give me the thing

470
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 4: and say the thing and then yeah, out the way.

471
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 2: That's just so interesting because people will be will lock

472
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 2: out the studio for like twelve hour blocks, and being

473
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 2: in there, we've been.

474
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 3: A part of that.

475
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 4: It's a lot of wasted studio time, a lot of

476
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 4: wasted budgets and budgets aside, and it's never about the

477
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 4: budgets for me. It's just about getting the intent of

478
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 4: the workout. And I think when you spend more time, well,

479
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 4: my grandma used to say, if you leave me here

480
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 4: long enough, I'm gonna lie. If you have me sitting

481
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 4: here for longer than I need to be, I'm gonna

482
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 4: tell a lie, so I should leave.

483
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 3: And that's kind of my If I didn't, well, well,

484
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: well I'm not lying.

485
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 4: If I'm dating you and it's all good, then you

486
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 4: know the conversation is gonna be good. But if I'm

487
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 4: sitting in a space where it's longer than it needs

488
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: to be there, I'm probably gonna start lying, So let

489
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 4: me leave. I'm a good Irish combie. If that's offensive,

490
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm good to be Irish Cobie. I will slide out

491
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 4: of a building.

492
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, me too. I'll be like, I'll be right,

493
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to the bathroom, okay, never to come back.

494
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: People will be like where did you go?

495
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: You just don't answer, or sometimes you just just spind

496
00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 2: later and be like, oh my bad. I was trying

497
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: to I couldn't get back to the table.

498
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: I've done that.

499
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 4: At this point, my friends know me. They're like, she

500
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 4: looked at her phone more than twice. She's in her car.

501
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: And then listen, my friends know me well enough to

502
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 2: know if they if I go to the back and

503
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: they gotta.

504
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 4: Come with me to make sure you're not going without

505
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 4: me to the bathroom, I'm gonna go.

506
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: It's a capical thing. Home.

507
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: We don't even like being out like that. Like, I

508
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: have a fun for a little while while I'm there, but.

509
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 4: Then it's intentional when I leave, and again, I like

510
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 4: to go have fun. I like to be, but I

511
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: like to be. The older I get, the more growner

512
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 4: I get, I say, saying, oh, it's the oldest subjective grown.

513
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: More growner I yet make it up worthy.

514
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 4: More growner I get, the more I'm like, I intentionally

515
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 4: want to go be happy.

516
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: I love my house. I really like my bedroom. I

517
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: like my home. I have a great backyard, I have

518
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: a wonderful living room. I like the space.

519
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 4: Man, I made a space that I don't have to

520
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 4: run away from, and I'm happy with it. So if

521
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: I leave, it's intentional to go be happy somewhere else.

522
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 4: And if I'm not going to be happy somewhere else,

523
00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: probably not going.

524
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: Wait, so do you still live in New York? Because

525
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: you those things, you must have moved.

526
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: She said, She's in the backyard, like I got to

527
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 2: get out of here.

528
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: I have a terrorist now.

529
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 4: No, it really is about like for me at this point,

530
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: like now, it's more about space and time and being

531
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 4: happy in my skin wherever I go right, you know,

532
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: and I follow it and I listen to it and

533
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 4: I don't play about when I feel unseld. I feel

534
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: like for me to leave, I could have been there

535
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: thirty seconds.

536
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: Time for me to go.

537
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm already not feeling the vibe. And that's when you

538
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: find out, I'm glad I left. You know what happened

539
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: after you left? And you're like, that's why I had

540
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: to get out of there every.

541
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 3: Time since I was a kid when I was at

542
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: the party.

543
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 4: Now I know his spirit and it's going to be

544
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 4: like she go home now, And right after that it becomes,

545
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: oh there.

546
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: Was a shooting or so, and so go beat up.

547
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: My mom was like, I'm so glad you listen. My

548
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: mom always I'm so listen.

549
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 2: Do you still love Cocordy music? The way you're used

550
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: to when you started, I do now.

551
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: It took a minute.

552
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: I had to fall out of love with it and

553
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 4: just you know, reconcile it and all I could figure

554
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: out what I was doing again. And I think it

555
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 4: was more just based off of the demand or just

556
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: the peace out the allowance I wasn't giving myself, you know,

557
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: the grace I weren't giving myself. I had to completely

558
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: break for it to get that love back. Because maybe

559
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: after Lover's Rock, I was like and nothing to do

560
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: with Lovers Rock. I had so much fun with Lovers Rock.

561
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: I was out on the road, people were like, this

562
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: is so you know, we had a good time.

563
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: With that album. I felt.

564
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: I felt joy and love like I never felt promoting

565
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: an album with Lovers Rock because it was my people.

566
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 4: You know, I've got to find all the people from

567
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: Grenada that lived in New York.

568
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: Thank you.

569
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 4: And you know when I went to Jamaica, when I

570
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: went to all that, it like it was a lot

571
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 4: of love. I had fun, But afterwards it was kind

572
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: of like, al right, on a personal level, now where

573
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: we at?

574
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: You know, how are you happy every day? Like do

575
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: you wake up and feed yourself?

576
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 4: Would you do do you do you pray anymore? Like

577
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: what's going on? I wasn't doing a lot of things,

578
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 4: so I had to.

579
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 3: Kind of reset recent get rid of friends, get rid

580
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: of people, reset my energy with family and myself, right,

581
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, boundaries, all the things, all the buzzwords on

582
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: that's me, hire.

583
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: I did the work on myself.

584
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: I did the work.

585
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm still feel like this is going to be reflected

586
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: on the new project.

587
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: For sure, but in again, in a way that is doable.

588
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 4: I never like to write records where it's preachy.

589
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 3: I never like to tell people, well, this is what

590
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: you have to do or hell a damination.

591
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just thinking about reflection.

592
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah too, because I agree with you know, sometimes like

593
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: out of loyalty or out of just being used to something,

594
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: we'll stay in certain friendships, relationships, even family situations that

595
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 2: can be not in our best interest just because we

596
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: feel an obligation or we're just used to something.

597
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: But you don't have to be.

598
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: That's this, This is the part of the song. Oh

599
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: why this part of this lyric.

600
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: It's like I wrote myself a less I'm changing for

601
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: the better, you know, lost myself in such frustration trying

602
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: to get back to my patient. But oh I you

603
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 4: know why, Oh I, you know it was all about me.

604
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: It's never about them. It's never somebody else telling you

605
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 4: have to.

606
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: It's your choice.

607
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: You can stay in it it makes you feel good,

608
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: and if it doesn't, you have the power to change

609
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 4: every time.

610
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: And you know it, no matter what people think, like,

611
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: you have to do what's best for you. And people

612
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: would be like, oh, she's acting funny.

613
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: Fun Yeah I am, but it's all it's for everyone's good,

614
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 4: including my own.

615
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: Let me act funny for a while.

616
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: And you know if you if you feel like that's

617
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: the case, that's okay. You can ask me about it

618
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 4: or you can stay over it one of the two.

619
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 4: But I guarantee if you ask me about it and

620
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 4: I tell you, yeah, I'm going through some really tough shit,

621
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: give me a second, you'll be like, understand, because I'm

622
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 4: going through some toush it too, or I've been through

623
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: some touchh it. You could recognize it because you're going

624
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: through it, you know, like, and that ends up being

625
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: some kind of kinship or discussion of by it were

626
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 4: Before it has just been like an assumption and now

627
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: everyone's like you know, and most of the times everyone's

628
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: going through something.

629
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: Listen, some of my greatest greatest friendships that were people

630
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: that we don't even talk all the time because we

631
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: but but when we catch up, it's a catch up.

632
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: You mentioned either that's my that's one of my new homegers.

633
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: I met her at my birthday. Yeah, our birthday.

634
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: I hadn't come out.

635
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I met her then, and she's become one

636
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 4: of my greatest friends.

637
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: And she said, I like that.

638
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know that. I thought y'all just knew

639
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: each other.

640
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: Okay, no, but we talk when we talk, and when

641
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: we talk, it's very it's never surfaced. You know, we've

642
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: all been through and dealing with our own stuff and

643
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: and but also we're also on the other side of

644
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: it and understanding that life is a big old journey

645
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: and it never stops.

646
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: You never stop learning. Because we're un learning parts of

647
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: ourself that were trash.

648
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: We're coming to terms of our shadows and seeing if

649
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 4: we like hanging out with them.

650
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: I like mine. We call I'm not too terrible.

651
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: You know you're not.

652
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: But you've always been really honest about things in your life.

653
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: I remember past interviews where you've been extremely like, yeah.

654
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: I used to tell it, but then also I don't

655
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: need to tell my stuff. I need to say I know,

656
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: used to be like look, but also I was a pill.

657
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah you've never admitted that I'm not, but I can

658
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: say it now. I used to be a pill. But

659
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: what does that mean exactly? Man?

660
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: I was very short tempered and I still am sometimes,

661
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: and there were times when I was like, you know,

662
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: I used to project, you know, and to me, it's

663
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: kind of.

664
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: Like you can't do all of that. I walk the

665
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: energy that I like to receive.

666
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: Now, okay, you know, so fair enough. I know that

667
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Speaker 4: if I'm being mean, I expect the meanness back.

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Speaker 3: So I try not to be mean.

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Speaker 4: And I tried to give everybody I'll walk up to

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Speaker 4: grace because under the idea that everybody is going on

671
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Speaker 4: their journey, I don't know nothing about their journey, right.

672
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: All I know is that we've found ourselves in the

673
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: same space. So we must have something in common, good and.

674
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: Good or bad. And give you a break, man, like

675
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: I want to break. I don't want to be hemmed

676
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: up all the time.

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00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: Like why are you being I want someone to be

678
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 4: like it's okay, be it. Thank you, you know it'd

679
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: be so often.

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Speaker 2: Let me be well, listen, I know you have a

681
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: lot going on. They say we had a heart outside.

682
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: Just want to make sure, yes, And I do miss

683
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: you being here like.

684
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: A phone call away back.

685
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: Years.

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Speaker 2: We gotta do some fun things, you know, And are

687
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: you going to like go on tour. What's the plan

688
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: for when this project comes out later this year?

689
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: I hope, I pray I'm going to go on tour.

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00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: It's not I hope and pray I'm going to go

691
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: on to it. But they won't let me know.

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Speaker 1: She'd be like I go on the stage, like I'll

693
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: be right back.

694
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: They're like did she leave, Like, oh, hold on, don't

695
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 3: give me no idea it was outside.

696
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: If I be right, I don't write this. No, no,

697
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: we'll be on tour. But I just hope that people

698
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: understand and get first of all, this very first song

699
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: that comes out. Hope they get it and understand it

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Speaker 4: and feel free when they listen to it and feel

701
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: joy when they listen to it.

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Speaker 2: It sounds amazing. It really does have a beautiful I

703
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: was like, this is I told you. I was like,

704
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: this is why does it sound like a sample of something.

705
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: I gotta ask her.

706
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Speaker 3: It feels like you know it?

707
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.

708
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: And it was I don't know if it was intentional

709
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: or if it was just like again and I pray

710
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: about my songs, ask God for different things, and this

711
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: one was just like, I just want people to feel freedom.

712
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: I wanted to feel joy. I wanted to feel like

713
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: they know this because they do. And to me, this

714
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: is soul work. This is this is singing to your soul.

715
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: This is singing to your joy. This isn't singing to

716
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: your this isn't caring too esthetic. This is care into

717
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: what you need, you know. So this is what that

718
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: record is about, and this whole album is about. And

719
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Speaker 4: I hope people get it and feeling well.

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Speaker 1: The memory be coming out around the scenes.

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Speaker 3: The memoir will be out next year. I'm working on that.

722
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. I noticed some real life stories. I

723
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: know it still has had a juicy life.

724
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll be quiet on the ground because for what,

725
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: But I have no idea.

726
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: But this is the story.

727
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: The memoir is more about the lessons I've learned and

728
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: how to use them in your life.

729
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I always get asked, how do you how do

730
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: you do this. How do you do this?

731
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: Like as an artist, you know, how how do you

732
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: go from London to the US and you're still you?

733
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Speaker 3: You don't look.

734
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: Tore up, you know, no, I get it, like you

735
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: look good and I'm like all right, man, And.

736
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Speaker 2: People have to understand that you have consistently been working,

737
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: not even just on your own music, but yeah, others

738
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: do a voice getting to the money, okay.

739
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Speaker 4: Get into the bikes, but also expanding my career, like

740
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Speaker 4: I have voiceover work. I've done features recently with Channel Trade.

741
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: We just put something else up home and me thinking

742
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: about there's so many records, so many features out right now.

743
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: Just Channel Trade did something with Theo Croker, who's a

744
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: new artist, should say that ship but a jazz artists.

745
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sell your interview, you guys had to.

746
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like a week later he was like, I

747
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: have something for us and that was exactly how it works.

748
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

749
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Speaker 4: So we stayed, you know, I stayed working on the

750
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Speaker 4: music side of it, but as and when we feel

751
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: it's right, you know, but voiceovers, acting TV.

752
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: It's nice to do music when you feel like it,

753
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: not because it has to pay the bills. It's like

754
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: I just love it and it pays the bills. But

755
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: you know, you got to be multifaceted. I feel like,

756
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: all right, well, thank you so much, Estelle.

757
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: For joining me.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear.

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: The whole new project. We're gonna play o I. All right,

760
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: so y'all don't have to hear me do that?

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: All right?

762
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Speaker 3: She sounds good, She sounds good. Wea