WEBVTT - Not Worthy Of Your Parrot Crapping On It 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.120 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.880 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Ketty arm Strong, and 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:25.200 Gatty and he Armstrong and Yetty. So all cable news 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.600 has Donald Trump on there, and he's surrounded by guys 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.400 in hard hats, and I thought, why are they going 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:34.559 live coverage wall to wall on every channel? Because Trump's 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.760 there for the new flagpoles that are going up at 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:38.920 the White House. They're going to start the construction on 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.760 putting up the new super tall flagpoles, which poles, all 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:47.199 of them. Okay, Okay, that's funny. It's because reporters are 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.920 asking him about Iran. Okay, well, that's a good reason. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.840 And a couple of headlines out of this, and maybe 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.120 we'll get the audio later. Iran offered to come to 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.880 the White House. Trump says it's very late for Iran 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.520 to start negotiating. There's a big difference between now and 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.960 a week ago. So he's basically saying the negotiating time 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.280 is over and taking it for what it obviously is 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.119 a stall tactic. And when the whole thing is if 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.720 they can hold out maybe another week or two, they 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:22.160 get a nuclear weapon. Yeah, right, yeah, right, So he 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.240 didn't say anything that made it seem less likely that 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.040 we're going to bomb Iran in the next couple of 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.000 days for certain right, he was actually asked that directly 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.240 and wouldn't answer it. But yeah, the whole no, no, 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.280 that time has past. I try to make it clear 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.880 that there would be a moment. It's too late, it's 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.640 not too late. So Joe's got a bunch of stuff 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.920 from mailbag with people arguing why we should or shouldn't 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.600 get involved in Iran, and that's the focus of this 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:54.400 Tucker Carlson thing. So Tucker Carlson is probably the leading 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:59.520 voice or the point person for the non interventionist crowd 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.800 in America right now. Do you think that's fair? Yeah, sure, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.040 might as well be. Yeah, and spoke at the convention. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.200 At the convention, yeah, and got a roar. I was 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:11.960 there when he walked in the place, and he got 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.080 a roaring standing ovation when Tucker Carlson walked out. And 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.520 he's a big we shouldn't get involved anywhere anytime, and 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.280 I'm barely overstating that. I'm not sure which situations he 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.720 would be willing to get involved in, but that's his position. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.320 And some of you agree that he is making a 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.000 lot of noise the last couple of days, trying to 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.239 slow down this US getting involved in the war in Iran, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.000 and he had Senator Ted Cruz of Texas on his show. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.240 I noticed in watching the video last night that Ted 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.080 is wearing what he told us are his arguing in boots. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.880 When we met with Ted several years ago, I admired 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.680 his boots and he said, these are my arguing boots. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.560 And he did get in some argument with Tucker Carlson 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.919 on the show, and this is how it went. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.520 How many people living around? By the way, I don't 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.600 know the population at all. No, I don't know the population. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.440 You don't know the population of the country. You seek 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:04.080 to topple. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.160 How many people living around? Ninety two million? Okay? Yeah, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.200 how could you not know that? I don't sit around 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:14.640 memorizing population tables. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.080 Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.000 overthrow of the government. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.840 Why is it relevant whether it's will because ninety million 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.919 or eighty million or one hundred million, Because if you 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.639 don't know anything about the country, you didn't say I 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.600 don't know anything about Okay, what's the ethnic mix of iron? 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.239 They are Persians and person at Leashia. Okay, you don't 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.800 know anything about Iran. So okay, I'm not the Tucker 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.600 Carlson bird on Iran. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:43.360 You're a center who's calling the one about the country. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.640 No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.800 one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:49.280 I'm not saying that. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.760 Who can't figure out General Solamony You to believe they're 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:54.640 trying to murder Trump? 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.480 Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.760 in retaliation, and if they really believe that carrying out 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.480 military strikes today, who said Israel was right with our help? 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.960 I've said we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.600 Well this you're breaking news here because the US government 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.680 last night denied the Nationalist Curity Council spokesman Alex Feiffer 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.880 denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:17.960 Israel's behalf in any offensive to passery. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.279 We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing. Then you just said 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.400 we were. We are supporting as is sas you're a senator. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.680 If you're saying the United States government is now we're 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.200 with a run, right, now people are listening. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.200 I don't know if you've ever done this when you 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.320 argue with people, but if you go with the kind 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.560 of super calm, why are you so upset? You can 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.560 really make people nuts. Yeah, we have a running joke 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.480 sometimes it's on the air around here that you should 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.360 take my how to Argue unfairly seminars. Tucker Carlson, who 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:52.200 is a next level, elite level crafter of language and arguments, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:58.000 is one of the most blatantly shamelessly unfair arguers I've 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.120 ever heard in my life. He can he can take 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.920 any phrase, find a shade of meaning you didn't mean, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.320 and act as if it is self evident that that 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.039 was your entire meaning. He does that over and over again. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.800 Or like he you know, he will memorize a couple 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.560 of facts about a country. And if you don't answer 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.520 his gotcha questions, which I've actually heard Tucker blast reporters 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.760 for asking in the past. If you don't have the 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.839 answers to those gotcha questions, it's proof positive that you 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.440 don't care. You're an ignoramus and just a careening buffoon. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.800 That was a masterclass in how to argue unfairly. Well, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.920 you did say before the show today when we were 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.120 having our meeting. It was probably one of your roarshock 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.960 tests where if you lean Tucker's direction on this whole deal, 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:48.039 you probably think, Man, he destroyed Dead Cruz. Yeah, and 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.160 if you lean the other direction, you feel like he 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:56.560 did not. That is a tiny clip. That's the tease 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:02.080 that Tucker released yesterday to try to entice you to 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.440 watch the whole thing today, which I would guess it's very, 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.960 very long, and the modern world of podcasts and videocasts 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.120 and everything, everybody's interview is like an hour and a 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.080 half long. I don't know how old this one or 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.000 how long this one is. To me, it's some indication 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.440 that Tucker is in the for profit business more than 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.039 just being a guy who cares about his country. Because 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.600 if he thought he landed some really good points about 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.720 stopping attacking Iran, which could happen at any moment, I 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.880 would think you'd go ahead and release that stuff rather 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.920 than put out a tease and then wait a whole 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:40.400 day to maximize viewership. For profit. Yeah, if your main 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.800 goal was stopping a war, you think it's going to 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.320 be World War three and destroy the country, I would 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:51.880 think the interview. Newsworthiness would elevate it to you know, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.839 get it out there immediately. Yeah, yeah, I suppose so. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.440 Or there's not much more to the interview. Maybe that 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.919 was by far the only interesting part. I doubt it though, 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.920 I thought doubt that. I bet it's pretty good. Yeah, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:11.680 I think so. That was an interesting clip to release, though, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.520 in that it was not a substantive argument about the 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.840 merits of one policy or another. It was trying to 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:24.480 pants Ted cruz Well or Tuner's been arguing of his 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.040 point of view. Yeah, and Tucker's been arguing for a 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.600 long time that we get into wars with these countries 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.800 we don't know anything about them, and you know, no, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.440 he's got an argument there, and that we go into 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.160 Iraq or Afghanistan with just the assumption that of course 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.360 they want democracy and the variety of things that just 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.800 aren't true. Yeah, there's plenty of that in Vietnam too. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.160 It's you know, a different situation, pretty complicated. Obviously, we're 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.560 not going to relitigate the Vietnam War, but yeah, there 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.560 was ah some of that absolutely. So I'm glad you 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.800 compiled some people's arguments on why they think we shouldn't 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.120 get involved because I want to hear them actually, or 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.880 or why we should get involved. I want to hear 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.000 those also. Yeah, yeah, well we have them both. Why 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.160 don't we take a break and come back with them? 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.280 Are where? Are where? What is your percentage right now? 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.880 On shoot or shooting? When we went into Iraq, I 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.440 kept saying, I'm fifty one forty nine four, but I 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.400 could easily be argued the other direction. I was not hardcore. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.280 This is a good idea, but it was a nardcore 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:25.920 as a bad idea, which maybe makes me just a 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.680 weak person. I don't know, but on this one, I'm 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.400 more like ninety ten that it needs to happen, not 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.480 go to Well it is. We are going to war 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.840 if we drop bombs on them, but I don't want to, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.360 you know, put boots on the ground and march into 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.240 Tehran and overthrow the government and try to reinstall a 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.160 new gun and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.400 very limited involvement. So you're asking what's mine? Yeah, I'm 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.320 ninety ten. I think this is gonna be one of 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.520 my all time dodges. I'll just tell you in advance. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:01.520 I don't know how necessary we are are to set 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:06.040 back their nuclear program like a decade or so, because 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.640 I don't I don't know what Israel's capabilities are, and 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.360 I don't know enough about the Fodoh reactor or the 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.840 centrifuges and the rest of it. Based on what I know, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.160 I think it's a good idea, but I don't won't 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.160 take a stand. I don't know enough profiles and I 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:34.360 don't know enough. You're right, information is such a burden. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.680 I'm trying to go with the kind of Tucker Carlson 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:41.959 style arguing, Oh okay, we gotta bomb the moles back 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.560 to the Stone Age. No, I am when to take 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.640 over our country and install fundamentalist Islam. Although that's true, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:52.080 by the way, Oh yeah, just you know, when Pandora's 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.520 box opens, a weird crap flies out as I recall 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.959 the legend releasing the dogs of war, unleashing, unleashing the 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.800 dogs of war. That's why I'm talk to Mike Lines. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.319 There some military expert that we have on about what's 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.240 the Tell me what's the worst case scenario if things 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.120 went wrong? But well, here are some of your arguments, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:13.440 both sides coming up. Stay here, farm strong, Yet, whether 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.400 you are moving closer, you believe the US is moving 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.520 closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities. Where's your mindset on that? 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:21.600 Say that right? 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.079 You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that way? 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.640 Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component? And what time exactly, 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.199 Sir Sar would you strike it? Would you please inform 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:34.000 it so we can be. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:34.640 There and watch. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.000 I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.720 do it. You don't know. I may do it, I 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.560 may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.680 gonna do. No, I want to hear the long version 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.360 of that cliff. I guess there's more of that on you. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.280 But we're going to move on to some emails from 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.680 folks who are against the US getting involved in helping 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.680 Israel knock out the photoh reactor and defeat Aron. A 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.880 couple of notable notes here. I'm going to feature one 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:05.480 from frequent correspondent Justin the truck driver, who vehemently disagrees 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.880 with us on a bunch of stuff, but is always gentlemanly, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.760 mostly about his disagreements, which I appreciate a lot. I'll 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.760 be succinct as possible the energy Oh. First, he makes 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.040 the point that the dissident right. Isn't just online, That's 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.880 just how we communicate. Men under thirty have a very 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.080 clear vision and understanding of how we got to the 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.880 disaster we are currently in. I would argue much better 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.199 than Boomer's and older gen X. Okay, that's a hell 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.280 of a statement. I'd like to hear the definition of 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.360 the disaster we're currently in. We have to start with 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.880 your assumptions and premises. You both assume Israel is our 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.080 ally and our government has had the best interests of 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.160 Americans for the last forty five years. I will start 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.280 with the cultural Marxist Zionist. While they might not openly 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.959 support Israel in their protests, they fully support Israel in 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.440 their actions on your show. Very important issue is the 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.720 woke left, gender ideology and Marxism. Well, what is the 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.560 origin of these belief systems? It was the Frankfurt School 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.640 and the Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin both came 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.400 out of Weimar, Germany by Jewish radical professors. Where did 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.680 Marxism come from? Karl Marxis and the Bolsheviks, which were 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.120 eighty eight percent Jewish. The rise of the Nazi Party 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.480 led to all the major Jewish propagandists from the Frankfurt School. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.719 Coming to America, Where did they go? They went to 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.640 Columbia and Yale, and overtime their ideas spread through academia 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.200 with a lot of help of Hollywood and music industry 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.360 and the culture at large. Trans writes, gay rights, pornography 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.400 all came from Jewish radicals in the forties, fifties and sixties, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.920 and therefore Iran should get to have a bomb. Going 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.200 to skip JFK and Nixon, even though that's the most 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.720 important part of the Zionists subversion of our government, because 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.000 you will just call me a conspiracy theorist. It's much 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.520 easier to fool someone than and convince them they've been fooled. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.319 Get it. I will start with the Reagan Revolution and 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.960 how Apak, Hollywood Weekly Standard, National Review wiped out the 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.760 paleo Conservatives to put their first puppet in office. That 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.200 would be Reagan. This is the end of social conservatism, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.800 in the beginnings of regime change. Foreign policy. Second Bush 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.079 administration is where they reached their full power. We all 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.840 know how that went. Another huge part of your show 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.079 is Islam in the West and how it's not compatible. Well, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.920 I fully agree and would love to see the Catholic 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.000 Church organize another crusade to retake the Holy Land. I 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.840 first have to deal with boomers. Why you, along with 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.199 your homosexual best friend Douglas Murray cannot paste together the 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:27.160 regime change wars in Libya, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, etc. As 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.880 the cause of the refugee crisis blows my mind. All 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.240 of those countries were toppled solely for the purpose of 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.400 Israel's foreign policy. It did not benefit America or the 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:40.360 West at all. Okay, I'm not as troubled by Ronald 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.480 Reagan being president or Douglas Murray being a homosexual. If 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.360 he is, I don't even know if he is, as 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.439 this person is. Yeah, let's see Nick and Minnesota rights. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.720 Why I'm against the war in Iran. I want to 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.679 give you the other side's point of view, he says, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.000 long email. I know, it's funny. There is one hundred 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.360 percent correlation between people who apologize for the length of 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.760 their email and people who actually keep it quite concise. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.400 It's funny. They're aware that they don't want to go 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.600 on too long, so I apologize, like when I'm listening 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.400 to somebody talking to me, I'll try to keep this 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.600 short I know, I go on on means okay, I better, Oh, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.320 take a bathroom break. This is going to take a 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.520 long time, right, Let's see. Jack asked why people on 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.800 the right who might be described as isolationists might be 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.400 the way they are. I lean that way and know 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.800 a lot of guys my age mid thirties right wingers 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.120 who are the same. Let me preface this by saying, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.200 I don't care if Israel nukes Tehran as long as 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.960 we're out of it. They live in the area. It's 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.040 time they police their neighborhood for a change. They've been 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.400 policing their neighborhood like crazy, Nick for a very very 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.480 long time, long before you were born. And that's not 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.240 an insult. But I'm not going to argue point by point. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.160 I just that one annoyed me. Let me preface this 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.920 by saying, oh, he said. Here are my thoughts and 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.960 what I see from my friends. One the last two 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.160 major wars Afghanistan in Iraq took decades to finish. There 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.920 are completely aimless squagmires that spent billions trillions of dollars 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.680 and cost thousands of lives and accomplish nothing. Two. Both 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.960 of the above wars were started for just reasons. We 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.120 went in with pretty clear goals, get rid of al Qaeda, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.560 get rid of WMTS. For both wars, we were told 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.440 they would be quick and easy, and yet both became 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.440 what they became. That's a good point three. Maybe because 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.120 we didn't grow up during the Cold War, but a 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:19.800 lot of people my age that I talked to don't 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.120 see a nuclear armed Iran as an absolute non starter. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.040 Oh my godness. We see North Korea with nukes, Pakistan 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.440 with nukes. Both countries are unstable and run by pretty 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.160 shady governments, and neither one uses their nukes because it 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:35.160 would be a suicide. Ali Khameni is not suicidal. He 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.040 enjoys his power and wealth as much as the next 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.680 despot dictator. I would like to quibble with that point. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.800 I think it's wrong man. The people they support in 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.840 Hamas and Hezbollah, I don't know if you remember October seventh, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:50.800 they certainly were willing to do some pretty crazy s. Yeah. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.400 I think they're actually sincere. Nick, but he says the 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.040 death to Jews America bluster is just to rouse the 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.800 rabble and keep the extremist on aside. Nukes are at 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.240 to foreign attack, such as the attack they're receiving right now. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.280 And for an indisputable point, and a good one, why 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.800 doesn't Congress declare war anymore? Why is it all just 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.520 assumed it's okay the president can order foreign countries bomb 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.160 because of nine to eleven. Even if we think Congress 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.400 will ultimately declare war on Iran, can we at least 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.720 go through the motions and follow our constitution? I'm with 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.720 you on that. Thanks for the note. Nick. I'm with 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.160 you on that Congress should take back its power to 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.480 declare war, which I think they would in this case. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.520 But you know, nobody even goes through the motions anymore. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.120 There are a thousand decisions made in the course of 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.680 this sort of thing, from beginning to end. Now that 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.800 might be an undercount. In the examples you've given, there 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:48.080 are some really terrible decisions made. I think the key 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.040 is to not make terrible decisions. They would probably respond, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.280 we always make terrible decisions. Be serious. I wish we 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.720 had more time, but we'll talk about this. Certainly, not 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.280 comfortable with letting Iran get a bomb and thinking it's 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.480 not a big deal. We are going to have Mike 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.480 Lions on in our three and ask him. You know, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.560 I want to ask him lay out the worst case 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.679 scenario that a lot of people are worried about. What 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.000 would that look like? Because I can't picture it, and 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.400 I'm sure he can't. Armstrong and getty. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.800 Two very simple words, A very simple unconditional surrender that 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:21.639 means I've had it. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.600 Okay, I've had it. I give up no more. Then 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.560 we go blow up all the you know, all the 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.000 nuclear stuff that's all over the place there. Now they 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.360 had bad intentions, you know, the for forty years they've 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.960 been saying death to America, death to Israel, death to 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:42.120 anybody else that they didn't like. The bullies. They were 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.240 schoolyard bullies, and now they're not bullies anymore. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:47.320 But we'll see what happens. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.119 I've had it, Trump says, And it's too late for negotiations, 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:52.600 he said on the White House a long just a 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.800 little bit ago. Yeah. One of the unfortunate aspects of 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.280 the way we do our show, it's a live radio 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.600 show and is also a podcast, is that sometimes we 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.040 come up against breaks and we can't go into depth 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.200 in stuff that I would like to. For instance, the 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.679 second email I read from Nick, which was lovely and 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.040 thanks again Nick for writing it made the point that 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.679 the death to America, death to the Jews stuff is 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.920 just rabble rousing. They have been bringing death to Americans 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.639 since their founding. And I could go through the list 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.159 of Iranian proxies and Aron itself less commonly, but that 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:34.399 have directly attacked our facilities, our people, our ships over 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.520 and over and over again, including just in the last years. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.399 They've killed thousands of US service people over the years. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:50.200 And yesterday, officials said that Iran appears to be starting 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.320 to prepare missiles to strike US bases in the Middle 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:58.040 East if we joined the war, starting with our base 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:02.359 in Iraq. We have forty thousand troops within missile range 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.680 of Iran right now at eleven or twelve different bases, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.359 including there in Iraq, and it looks like they're To me, 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.600 it seems crazy that Iraq would do that. Iran would 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.840 do that, I mean just insane, like a suicide wish. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.520 But on the other hand, you know, you blew up 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.880 all those Marines in Beirut. We pulled out. It drove 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.760 us out of the The rep is if you give 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.720 America a bloody nose, it will withdraw. That's their calculation 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.480 partially because politically, you know, we get a lot of 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.119 people say what are we doing there? That has worked 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.520 over and over. There's the example of a monock and 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.440 began when he before long before his Prime minister, when 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.399 he was when he was leading an underground effort to 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:53.160 get the Brits out of that part of the world 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:58.280 way back in the forties. I mean, he was blew 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.560 up the hotel and killed Rits and snatched soldiers off 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:05.119 the street and had them hanged until the public back 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.520 in England said, what are we doing here? This isn't our, 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.760 this isn't our part of the world. We don't care anyway, 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.680 And the BRIT's pulled out because of that. So that's 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.960 Iran's calculation. By the way, coming up later this half 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.679 hour fabulous Supreme Court ruling really really encouraging. I'm just 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.760 going to touch on this note from Tom and SoCal 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.480 real quickly. He mentions that forty years ago he gave 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.960 a speech in college calling out Islamic fundamentalism as the 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.000 number one risk to the US more than the Soviet Union. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.679 Even at the time, the premise was simple, if Islamists 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.480 get weapons of mass destruction, they will use them on 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.359 us in Israel, they don't care about life. They care 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.040 about the glory of martyrdom seventy two Virgins, et cetera. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.959 I hear people talk about no forever wars. Well, Iran 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.439 has been at war with the United States since nineteen 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.800 seventy nine. They don't want a forever war either. That's 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:02.560 why they have a nuclear weapons program. The point being 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.359 similar to mine. We have been at war with them 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.080 for a very long time, and in the interests of 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.000 not escalating anything and getting into another quagmire, which is 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:19.600 a perfectly valid point, we have been on the receiving 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.320 end of a forever war, right, and Israel motivated by 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:28.399 October seventh obviously, and now Trump motivated by the proximity 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.879 Iran has to a bomb, an actual functioning bomb. Is 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.679 that enough is enough? The forever war's over? Yeah? Similar 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.040 to nine to eleven, where we finally had the conversation 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:41.600 Osama bin Laden declared war on US decades ago and 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.359