Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Ketty arm Strong, and
Speaker 1: Gatty and he Armstrong and Yetty. So all cable news
Speaker 1: has Donald Trump on there, and he's surrounded by guys
Speaker 1: in hard hats, and I thought, why are they going
Speaker 1: live coverage wall to wall on every channel? Because Trump's
Speaker 1: there for the new flagpoles that are going up at
Speaker 1: the White House. They're going to start the construction on
Speaker 1: putting up the new super tall flagpoles, which poles, all
Speaker 1: of them. Okay, Okay, that's funny. It's because reporters are
Speaker 1: asking him about Iran. Okay, well, that's a good reason.
Speaker 1: And a couple of headlines out of this, and maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get the audio later. Iran offered to come to
Speaker 1: the White House. Trump says it's very late for Iran
Speaker 1: to start negotiating. There's a big difference between now and
Speaker 1: a week ago. So he's basically saying the negotiating time
Speaker 1: is over and taking it for what it obviously is
Speaker 1: a stall tactic. And when the whole thing is if
Speaker 1: they can hold out maybe another week or two, they
Speaker 1: get a nuclear weapon. Yeah, right, yeah, right, So he
Speaker 1: didn't say anything that made it seem less likely that
Speaker 1: we're going to bomb Iran in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days for certain right, he was actually asked that directly
Speaker 1: and wouldn't answer it. But yeah, the whole no, no,
Speaker 1: that time has past. I try to make it clear
Speaker 1: that there would be a moment. It's too late, it's
Speaker 1: not too late. So Joe's got a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: from mailbag with people arguing why we should or shouldn't
Speaker 1: get involved in Iran, and that's the focus of this
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson thing. So Tucker Carlson is probably the leading
Speaker 1: voice or the point person for the non interventionist crowd
Speaker 1: in America right now. Do you think that's fair? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: might as well be. Yeah, and spoke at the convention.
Speaker 1: At the convention, yeah, and got a roar. I was
Speaker 1: there when he walked in the place, and he got
Speaker 1: a roaring standing ovation when Tucker Carlson walked out. And
Speaker 1: he's a big we shouldn't get involved anywhere anytime, and
Speaker 1: I'm barely overstating that. I'm not sure which situations he
Speaker 1: would be willing to get involved in, but that's his position.
Speaker 1: And some of you agree that he is making a
Speaker 1: lot of noise the last couple of days, trying to
Speaker 1: slow down this US getting involved in the war in Iran,
Speaker 1: and he had Senator Ted Cruz of Texas on his show.
Speaker 1: I noticed in watching the video last night that Ted
Speaker 1: is wearing what he told us are his arguing in boots.
Speaker 1: When we met with Ted several years ago, I admired
Speaker 1: his boots and he said, these are my arguing boots.
Speaker 1: And he did get in some argument with Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: on the show, and this is how it went.
Speaker 2: How many people living around? By the way, I don't
Speaker 2: know the population at all. No, I don't know the population.
Speaker 2: You don't know the population of the country. You seek
Speaker 2: to topple.
Speaker 1: How many people living around? Ninety two million? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how could you not know that? I don't sit around
Speaker 1: memorizing population tables.
Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
Speaker 3: overthrow of the government.
Speaker 2: Why is it relevant whether it's will because ninety million
Speaker 2: or eighty million or one hundred million, Because if you
Speaker 2: don't know anything about the country, you didn't say I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about Okay, what's the ethnic mix of iron?
Speaker 2: They are Persians and person at Leashia. Okay, you don't
Speaker 2: know anything about Iran. So okay, I'm not the Tucker
Speaker 2: Carlson bird on Iran.
Speaker 1: You're a center who's calling the one about the country.
Speaker 2: No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
Speaker 2: one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: Who can't figure out General Solamony You to believe they're
Speaker 2: trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 3: Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them
Speaker 3: in retaliation, and if they really believe that carrying out
Speaker 3: military strikes today, who said Israel was right with our help?
Speaker 1: I've said we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
Speaker 3: Well this you're breaking news here because the US government
Speaker 3: last night denied the Nationalist Curity Council spokesman Alex Feiffer
Speaker 3: denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on
Speaker 3: Israel's behalf in any offensive to passery.
Speaker 1: We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing. Then you just said
Speaker 1: we were. We are supporting as is sas you're a senator.
Speaker 3: If you're saying the United States government is now we're
Speaker 3: with a run, right, now people are listening.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever done this when you
Speaker 1: argue with people, but if you go with the kind
Speaker 1: of super calm, why are you so upset? You can
Speaker 1: really make people nuts. Yeah, we have a running joke
Speaker 1: sometimes it's on the air around here that you should
Speaker 1: take my how to Argue unfairly seminars. Tucker Carlson, who
Speaker 1: is a next level, elite level crafter of language and arguments,
Speaker 1: is one of the most blatantly shamelessly unfair arguers I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my life. He can he can take
Speaker 1: any phrase, find a shade of meaning you didn't mean,
Speaker 1: and act as if it is self evident that that
Speaker 1: was your entire meaning. He does that over and over again.
Speaker 1: Or like he you know, he will memorize a couple
Speaker 1: of facts about a country. And if you don't answer
Speaker 1: his gotcha questions, which I've actually heard Tucker blast reporters
Speaker 1: for asking in the past. If you don't have the
Speaker 1: answers to those gotcha questions, it's proof positive that you
Speaker 1: don't care. You're an ignoramus and just a careening buffoon.
Speaker 1: That was a masterclass in how to argue unfairly. Well,
Speaker 1: you did say before the show today when we were
Speaker 1: having our meeting. It was probably one of your roarshock
Speaker 1: tests where if you lean Tucker's direction on this whole deal,
Speaker 1: you probably think, Man, he destroyed Dead Cruz. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if you lean the other direction, you feel like he
Speaker 1: did not. That is a tiny clip. That's the tease
Speaker 1: that Tucker released yesterday to try to entice you to
Speaker 1: watch the whole thing today, which I would guess it's very,
Speaker 1: very long, and the modern world of podcasts and videocasts
Speaker 1: and everything, everybody's interview is like an hour and a
Speaker 1: half long. I don't know how old this one or
Speaker 1: how long this one is. To me, it's some indication
Speaker 1: that Tucker is in the for profit business more than
Speaker 1: just being a guy who cares about his country. Because
Speaker 1: if he thought he landed some really good points about
Speaker 1: stopping attacking Iran, which could happen at any moment, I
Speaker 1: would think you'd go ahead and release that stuff rather
Speaker 1: than put out a tease and then wait a whole
Speaker 1: day to maximize viewership. For profit. Yeah, if your main
Speaker 1: goal was stopping a war, you think it's going to
Speaker 1: be World War three and destroy the country, I would
Speaker 1: think the interview. Newsworthiness would elevate it to you know,
Speaker 1: get it out there immediately. Yeah, yeah, I suppose so.
Speaker 1: Or there's not much more to the interview. Maybe that
Speaker 1: was by far the only interesting part. I doubt it though,
Speaker 1: I thought doubt that. I bet it's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. That was an interesting clip to release, though,
Speaker 1: in that it was not a substantive argument about the
Speaker 1: merits of one policy or another. It was trying to
Speaker 1: pants Ted cruz Well or Tuner's been arguing of his
Speaker 1: point of view. Yeah, and Tucker's been arguing for a
Speaker 1: long time that we get into wars with these countries
Speaker 1: we don't know anything about them, and you know, no,
Speaker 1: he's got an argument there, and that we go into
Speaker 1: Iraq or Afghanistan with just the assumption that of course
Speaker 1: they want democracy and the variety of things that just
Speaker 1: aren't true. Yeah, there's plenty of that in Vietnam too.
Speaker 1: It's you know, a different situation, pretty complicated. Obviously, we're
Speaker 1: not going to relitigate the Vietnam War, but yeah, there
Speaker 1: was ah some of that absolutely. So I'm glad you
Speaker 1: compiled some people's arguments on why they think we shouldn't
Speaker 1: get involved because I want to hear them actually, or
Speaker 1: or why we should get involved. I want to hear
Speaker 1: those also. Yeah, yeah, well we have them both. Why
Speaker 1: don't we take a break and come back with them?
Speaker 1: Are where? Are where? What is your percentage right now?
Speaker 1: On shoot or shooting? When we went into Iraq, I
Speaker 1: kept saying, I'm fifty one forty nine four, but I
Speaker 1: could easily be argued the other direction. I was not hardcore.
Speaker 1: This is a good idea, but it was a nardcore
Speaker 1: as a bad idea, which maybe makes me just a
Speaker 1: weak person. I don't know, but on this one, I'm
Speaker 1: more like ninety ten that it needs to happen, not
Speaker 1: go to Well it is. We are going to war
Speaker 1: if we drop bombs on them, but I don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, put boots on the ground and march into
Speaker 1: Tehran and overthrow the government and try to reinstall a
Speaker 1: new gun and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very limited involvement. So you're asking what's mine? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: ninety ten. I think this is gonna be one of
Speaker 1: my all time dodges. I'll just tell you in advance.
Speaker 1: I don't know how necessary we are are to set
Speaker 1: back their nuclear program like a decade or so, because
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what Israel's capabilities are, and
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about the Fodoh reactor or the
Speaker 1: centrifuges and the rest of it. Based on what I know,
Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea, but I don't won't
Speaker 1: take a stand. I don't know enough profiles and I
Speaker 1: don't know enough. You're right, information is such a burden.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go with the kind of Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: style arguing, Oh okay, we gotta bomb the moles back
Speaker 1: to the Stone Age. No, I am when to take
Speaker 1: over our country and install fundamentalist Islam. Although that's true,
Speaker 1: by the way, Oh yeah, just you know, when Pandora's
Speaker 1: box opens, a weird crap flies out as I recall
Speaker 1: the legend releasing the dogs of war, unleashing, unleashing the
Speaker 1: dogs of war. That's why I'm talk to Mike Lines.
Speaker 1: There some military expert that we have on about what's
Speaker 1: the Tell me what's the worst case scenario if things
Speaker 1: went wrong? But well, here are some of your arguments,
Speaker 1: both sides coming up. Stay here, farm strong, Yet, whether
Speaker 1: you are moving closer, you believe the US is moving
Speaker 1: closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities. Where's your mindset on that?
Speaker 1: Say that right?
Speaker 4: You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that way?
Speaker 1: Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component? And what time exactly,
Speaker 1: Sir Sar would you strike it? Would you please inform
Speaker 1: it so we can be.
Speaker 2: There and watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even
Speaker 1: do it. You don't know. I may do it, I
Speaker 1: may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. No, I want to hear the long version
Speaker 1: of that cliff. I guess there's more of that on you.
Speaker 1: But we're going to move on to some emails from
Speaker 1: folks who are against the US getting involved in helping
Speaker 1: Israel knock out the photoh reactor and defeat Aron. A
Speaker 1: couple of notable notes here. I'm going to feature one
Speaker 1: from frequent correspondent Justin the truck driver, who vehemently disagrees
Speaker 1: with us on a bunch of stuff, but is always gentlemanly,
Speaker 1: mostly about his disagreements, which I appreciate a lot. I'll
Speaker 1: be succinct as possible the energy Oh. First, he makes
Speaker 1: the point that the dissident right. Isn't just online, That's
Speaker 1: just how we communicate. Men under thirty have a very
Speaker 1: clear vision and understanding of how we got to the
Speaker 1: disaster we are currently in. I would argue much better
Speaker 1: than Boomer's and older gen X. Okay, that's a hell
Speaker 1: of a statement. I'd like to hear the definition of
Speaker 1: the disaster we're currently in. We have to start with
Speaker 1: your assumptions and premises. You both assume Israel is our
Speaker 1: ally and our government has had the best interests of
Speaker 1: Americans for the last forty five years. I will start
Speaker 1: with the cultural Marxist Zionist. While they might not openly
Speaker 1: support Israel in their protests, they fully support Israel in
Speaker 1: their actions on your show. Very important issue is the
Speaker 1: woke left, gender ideology and Marxism. Well, what is the
Speaker 1: origin of these belief systems? It was the Frankfurt School
Speaker 1: and the Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin both came
Speaker 1: out of Weimar, Germany by Jewish radical professors. Where did
Speaker 1: Marxism come from? Karl Marxis and the Bolsheviks, which were
Speaker 1: eighty eight percent Jewish. The rise of the Nazi Party
Speaker 1: led to all the major Jewish propagandists from the Frankfurt School.
Speaker 1: Coming to America, Where did they go? They went to
Speaker 1: Columbia and Yale, and overtime their ideas spread through academia
Speaker 1: with a lot of help of Hollywood and music industry
Speaker 1: and the culture at large. Trans writes, gay rights, pornography
Speaker 1: all came from Jewish radicals in the forties, fifties and sixties,
Speaker 1: and therefore Iran should get to have a bomb. Going
Speaker 1: to skip JFK and Nixon, even though that's the most
Speaker 1: important part of the Zionists subversion of our government, because
Speaker 1: you will just call me a conspiracy theorist. It's much
Speaker 1: easier to fool someone than and convince them they've been fooled.
Speaker 1: Get it. I will start with the Reagan Revolution and
Speaker 1: how Apak, Hollywood Weekly Standard, National Review wiped out the
Speaker 1: paleo Conservatives to put their first puppet in office. That
Speaker 1: would be Reagan. This is the end of social conservatism,
Speaker 1: in the beginnings of regime change. Foreign policy. Second Bush
Speaker 1: administration is where they reached their full power. We all
Speaker 1: know how that went. Another huge part of your show
Speaker 1: is Islam in the West and how it's not compatible. Well,
Speaker 1: I fully agree and would love to see the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church organize another crusade to retake the Holy Land. I
Speaker 1: first have to deal with boomers. Why you, along with
Speaker 1: your homosexual best friend Douglas Murray cannot paste together the
Speaker 1: regime change wars in Libya, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, etc. As
Speaker 1: the cause of the refugee crisis blows my mind. All
Speaker 1: of those countries were toppled solely for the purpose of
Speaker 1: Israel's foreign policy. It did not benefit America or the
Speaker 1: West at all. Okay, I'm not as troubled by Ronald
Speaker 1: Reagan being president or Douglas Murray being a homosexual. If
Speaker 1: he is, I don't even know if he is, as
Speaker 1: this person is. Yeah, let's see Nick and Minnesota rights.
Speaker 1: Why I'm against the war in Iran. I want to
Speaker 1: give you the other side's point of view, he says,
Speaker 1: long email. I know, it's funny. There is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent correlation between people who apologize for the length of
Speaker 1: their email and people who actually keep it quite concise.
Speaker 1: It's funny. They're aware that they don't want to go
Speaker 1: on too long, so I apologize, like when I'm listening
Speaker 1: to somebody talking to me, I'll try to keep this
Speaker 1: short I know, I go on on means okay, I better, Oh,
Speaker 1: take a bathroom break. This is going to take a
Speaker 1: long time, right, Let's see. Jack asked why people on
Speaker 1: the right who might be described as isolationists might be
Speaker 1: the way they are. I lean that way and know
Speaker 1: a lot of guys my age mid thirties right wingers
Speaker 1: who are the same. Let me preface this by saying,
Speaker 1: I don't care if Israel nukes Tehran as long as
Speaker 1: we're out of it. They live in the area. It's
Speaker 1: time they police their neighborhood for a change. They've been
Speaker 1: policing their neighborhood like crazy, Nick for a very very
Speaker 1: long time, long before you were born. And that's not
Speaker 1: an insult. But I'm not going to argue point by point.
Speaker 1: I just that one annoyed me. Let me preface this
Speaker 1: by saying, oh, he said. Here are my thoughts and
Speaker 1: what I see from my friends. One the last two
Speaker 1: major wars Afghanistan in Iraq took decades to finish. There
Speaker 1: are completely aimless squagmires that spent billions trillions of dollars
Speaker 1: and cost thousands of lives and accomplish nothing. Two. Both
Speaker 1: of the above wars were started for just reasons. We
Speaker 1: went in with pretty clear goals, get rid of al Qaeda,
Speaker 1: get rid of WMTS. For both wars, we were told
Speaker 1: they would be quick and easy, and yet both became
Speaker 1: what they became. That's a good point three. Maybe because
Speaker 1: we didn't grow up during the Cold War, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people my age that I talked to don't
Speaker 1: see a nuclear armed Iran as an absolute non starter.
Speaker 1: Oh my godness. We see North Korea with nukes, Pakistan
Speaker 1: with nukes. Both countries are unstable and run by pretty
Speaker 1: shady governments, and neither one uses their nukes because it
Speaker 1: would be a suicide. Ali Khameni is not suicidal. He
Speaker 1: enjoys his power and wealth as much as the next
Speaker 1: despot dictator. I would like to quibble with that point.
Speaker 1: I think it's wrong man. The people they support in
Speaker 1: Hamas and Hezbollah, I don't know if you remember October seventh,
Speaker 1: they certainly were willing to do some pretty crazy s. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they're actually sincere. Nick, but he says the
Speaker 1: death to Jews America bluster is just to rouse the
Speaker 1: rabble and keep the extremist on aside. Nukes are at
Speaker 1: to foreign attack, such as the attack they're receiving right now.
Speaker 1: And for an indisputable point, and a good one, why
Speaker 1: doesn't Congress declare war anymore? Why is it all just
Speaker 1: assumed it's okay the president can order foreign countries bomb
Speaker 1: because of nine to eleven. Even if we think Congress
Speaker 1: will ultimately declare war on Iran, can we at least
Speaker 1: go through the motions and follow our constitution? I'm with
Speaker 1: you on that. Thanks for the note. Nick. I'm with
Speaker 1: you on that Congress should take back its power to
Speaker 1: declare war, which I think they would in this case.
Speaker 1: But you know, nobody even goes through the motions anymore.
Speaker 1: There are a thousand decisions made in the course of
Speaker 1: this sort of thing, from beginning to end. Now that
Speaker 1: might be an undercount. In the examples you've given, there
Speaker 1: are some really terrible decisions made. I think the key
Speaker 1: is to not make terrible decisions. They would probably respond,
Speaker 1: we always make terrible decisions. Be serious. I wish we
Speaker 1: had more time, but we'll talk about this. Certainly, not
Speaker 1: comfortable with letting Iran get a bomb and thinking it's
Speaker 1: not a big deal. We are going to have Mike
Speaker 1: Lions on in our three and ask him. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to ask him lay out the worst case
Speaker 1: scenario that a lot of people are worried about. What
Speaker 1: would that look like? Because I can't picture it, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can't. Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 2: Two very simple words, A very simple unconditional surrender that
Speaker 2: means I've had it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've had it. I give up no more. Then
Speaker 1: we go blow up all the you know, all the
Speaker 1: nuclear stuff that's all over the place there. Now they
Speaker 1: had bad intentions, you know, the for forty years they've
Speaker 1: been saying death to America, death to Israel, death to
Speaker 1: anybody else that they didn't like. The bullies. They were
Speaker 1: schoolyard bullies, and now they're not bullies anymore.
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I've had it, Trump says, And it's too late for negotiations,
Speaker 1: he said on the White House a long just a
Speaker 1: little bit ago. Yeah. One of the unfortunate aspects of
Speaker 1: the way we do our show, it's a live radio
Speaker 1: show and is also a podcast, is that sometimes we
Speaker 1: come up against breaks and we can't go into depth
Speaker 1: in stuff that I would like to. For instance, the
Speaker 1: second email I read from Nick, which was lovely and
Speaker 1: thanks again Nick for writing it made the point that
Speaker 1: the death to America, death to the Jews stuff is
Speaker 1: just rabble rousing. They have been bringing death to Americans
Speaker 1: since their founding. And I could go through the list
Speaker 1: of Iranian proxies and Aron itself less commonly, but that
Speaker 1: have directly attacked our facilities, our people, our ships over
Speaker 1: and over and over again, including just in the last years.
Speaker 1: They've killed thousands of US service people over the years.
Speaker 1: And yesterday, officials said that Iran appears to be starting
Speaker 1: to prepare missiles to strike US bases in the Middle
Speaker 1: East if we joined the war, starting with our base
Speaker 1: in Iraq. We have forty thousand troops within missile range
Speaker 1: of Iran right now at eleven or twelve different bases,
Speaker 1: including there in Iraq, and it looks like they're To me,
Speaker 1: it seems crazy that Iraq would do that. Iran would
Speaker 1: do that, I mean just insane, like a suicide wish.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, you know, you blew up
Speaker 1: all those Marines in Beirut. We pulled out. It drove
Speaker 1: us out of the The rep is if you give
Speaker 1: America a bloody nose, it will withdraw. That's their calculation
Speaker 1: partially because politically, you know, we get a lot of
Speaker 1: people say what are we doing there? That has worked
Speaker 1: over and over. There's the example of a monock and
Speaker 1: began when he before long before his Prime minister, when
Speaker 1: he was when he was leading an underground effort to
Speaker 1: get the Brits out of that part of the world
Speaker 1: way back in the forties. I mean, he was blew
Speaker 1: up the hotel and killed Rits and snatched soldiers off
Speaker 1: the street and had them hanged until the public back
Speaker 1: in England said, what are we doing here? This isn't our,
Speaker 1: this isn't our part of the world. We don't care anyway,
Speaker 1: And the BRIT's pulled out because of that. So that's
Speaker 1: Iran's calculation. By the way, coming up later this half
Speaker 1: hour fabulous Supreme Court ruling really really encouraging. I'm just
Speaker 1: going to touch on this note from Tom and SoCal
Speaker 1: real quickly. He mentions that forty years ago he gave
Speaker 1: a speech in college calling out Islamic fundamentalism as the
Speaker 1: number one risk to the US more than the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: Even at the time, the premise was simple, if Islamists
Speaker 1: get weapons of mass destruction, they will use them on
Speaker 1: us in Israel, they don't care about life. They care
Speaker 1: about the glory of martyrdom seventy two Virgins, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I hear people talk about no forever wars. Well, Iran
Speaker 1: has been at war with the United States since nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine. They don't want a forever war either. That's
Speaker 1: why they have a nuclear weapons program. The point being
Speaker 1: similar to mine. We have been at war with them
Speaker 1: for a very long time, and in the interests of
Speaker 1: not escalating anything and getting into another quagmire, which is
Speaker 1: a perfectly valid point, we have been on the receiving
Speaker 1: end of a forever war, right, and Israel motivated by
Speaker 1: October seventh obviously, and now Trump motivated by the proximity
Speaker 1: Iran has to a bomb, an actual functioning bomb. Is
Speaker 1: that enough is enough? The forever war's over? Yeah? Similar
Speaker 1: to nine to eleven, where we finally had the conversation
Speaker 1: Osama bin Laden declared war on US decades ago and
Speaker 1: we pretended that he didn't. And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: that goes on with Iran too. Right. Is there danger here?
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, one hundred percent overreach mission creep danger
Speaker 1: worse than letting Iran get a nuclear weapon. That's that's
Speaker 1: what I always come down to. That's that is the
Speaker 1: great question. And with all due respect to our younger
Speaker 1: fellows who've dropped his notes recently and seemed to believe
Speaker 1: that youth is a greater imparter of wisdom than time.
Speaker 1: These decisions are never clear at the time they are made.
Speaker 1: History has a way of presenting the past as though
Speaker 1: it were inevitable, and that well, everybody knew that France
Speaker 1: and then Britain and the Allies had to go to
Speaker 1: war against Hitler. But that damn Neville Chamberlain, that cowardly appeaser,
Speaker 1: he kept it from happening. No, not at all, anyway.
Speaker 1: Neville Chamberlain was a very good and wise man. He
Speaker 1: was just wrong on that one. Anyway. Moving along, we
Speaker 1: have major Supreme Court breaking news. It is June, after all,
Speaker 1: that's right, breaking news, breaking news. When news breaks, the
Speaker 1: donkey brays, why doesn't matter? Supreme Court upholds Tennessee ban
Speaker 1: on transgender care for minors. Now, I will warn you
Speaker 1: in advance. I am reading from a liberal news outlet,
Speaker 1: and so they will use terms like ban on transgender care.
Speaker 1: I would use cruel experimental surgeries on confused children. How
Speaker 1: about we use that phrase instead, And in fact, I'll
Speaker 1: just read this. The Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld a
Speaker 1: Tennessee law that prohibits some medical treatments for transgender youths,
Speaker 1: rejecting arguments that it violates the Constitution, shielding similar laws
Speaker 1: in more than twenty other states. The term transgender or
Speaker 1: transgender youths should be in quotes. How about medical treatments
Speaker 1: that should definitely be in quotes, right right, And this
Speaker 1: is Adam Liptak for the New York Times. They're just
Speaker 1: very good on breaking Supreme Court news and getting it
Speaker 1: out fast, which is why I'm turning to them. What
Speaker 1: that opening sentence does is accept radical gender theory as fact,
Speaker 1: the idea that outside a vanishingly small number of people,
Speaker 1: the idea of being transgender is just a thing. And
Speaker 1: the medical treatment and you're born with it, like you're
Speaker 1: born with your height and your blue eyes. That is
Speaker 1: radical gender theory, and it's bunk. And the medical treatments
Speaker 1: are necessary medical procedures. It's and so they're presenting it
Speaker 1: like Tennessee has banned medical treatments for cancer. Something has
Speaker 1: occurred to it happened to you or true about you,
Speaker 1: and there can be fit that can be fixed with
Speaker 1: these medical treatments, and Tennessee said you couldn't, and the
Speaker 1: Maga Court now won't let you do that. You don't
Speaker 1: need these medical treatments. They're trying to change your body
Speaker 1: to be more like a different gender, sex, all kinds
Speaker 1: of crazy ways that don't need to happen. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're a confused adolescent, your parents are probably forcing you
Speaker 1: to listen to the show. And I pity you. I
Speaker 1: will tell you this. You're perfect the way you are.
Speaker 1: You're not so effed up somebody needs to carve up
Speaker 1: your body and pump you full of powerful chemicals. You
Speaker 1: are just the way God made you. Or if you
Speaker 1: don't believe in God the way nature made you, you
Speaker 1: do you don't listen to people telling you we got
Speaker 1: to carve you up to make you who you ought
Speaker 1: to be. Don't listen to them. They're monsters. And you
Speaker 1: parents who went along with it because you're bullied and
Speaker 1: brow beaten into it. My god, the weight you're going
Speaker 1: to carry in your heart. I actually do pity you.
Speaker 1: Well feel terrible for you. If you've already gone down
Speaker 1: this road. Really, the big part of this is almost
Speaker 1: every news outlet is saying it's a huge setback for
Speaker 1: transgender rights. So if that's ludicrous, if that's the direction
Speaker 1: you lean, I mean in terms of wanting a huge
Speaker 1: setback for transgender rights, good news for you today. It's
Speaker 1: a six' three, ruling the decision which came amid The
Speaker 1: trump administration's fierce assaults on transgender. Rights that's an incredibly prejudicial.
Speaker 1: Phrase people suck at. Journalism, wow was a bitter setback
Speaker 1: for the your. Proponents so only five years ago celebrated
Speaker 1: the decision by The court to protect transgender p from workplace.
Speaker 1: Discrimination totally different. Questions look at all these headlines from
Speaker 1: all these left leaning. Outlets so you have a majority
Speaker 1: opinion that happens to it by The Supreme, court that
Speaker 1: happens to agree with a majority Of americans and a huge,
Speaker 1: majority and it's all presented as a setback as opposed
Speaker 1: to a victory four. Right if it had gone the
Speaker 1: other direction with a more left leaning, court AND i
Speaker 1: don't even think a left leaning court would have done,
Speaker 1: This but, anyway if it had gone the other, direction
Speaker 1: they'd be calling it a victory for transgender, rights even
Speaker 1: though a vast majority Of americans think it's the wrong.
Speaker 1: Idea carving up children is not. Transgender it's a six
Speaker 1: monster for transgender. Rights, no it's a victory for people
Speaker 1: who think we've gone off the. Rails Crazy well. Said
Speaker 1: the vote was six to, three with of, course three
Speaker 1: liberal members in. Descent Chief Justice JOHN. G, roberts writing
Speaker 1: for the, majority acknowledged the quote fierce scientific and policy
Speaker 1: debates about the, safety, efficacy and. Propriety, yeah, propriety let's
Speaker 1: begin there of medical treatments in an evolving. Field the
Speaker 1: voices in these debates raise sincere. Concerns the implications for
Speaker 1: all are. Profound but he said these questions should be
Speaker 1: resolved by the. People they're elected representatives and the democratic.
Speaker 1: Process you folks are always screeching about. Democracy Judge roberts, says, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah this is a great place for. Democracy are there
Speaker 1: any news outlets that are going with the old saw
Speaker 1: of they'll commit suicide if you don't get in the
Speaker 1: surgery right. Away, oh that's why necessary medical. Care never
Speaker 1: mind every responsible. Study, British European american says there is
Speaker 1: no oh scientific basis to support that this is necessary
Speaker 1: or even a good idea in any. Way i'm Just
Speaker 1: i'm not going to read their perverse. Language i'm going
Speaker 1: to go ahead and. Paraphrase The tennessee law was enacted
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three amid a sweeping national pushback to
Speaker 1: stop mutilating healthy. Children since, then controversy about military service, athletes,
Speaker 1: bathrooms and pronouns and played a role In President trump's
Speaker 1: second term. Agenda as the vast majority Of americans, say
Speaker 1: Quoting jack the bullet trained a crazy, town launched without our,
Speaker 1: permission and we haven't liked a single mile it's. Traveled so,
Speaker 1: yes we're going to recapture. Sanity thank you for your
Speaker 1: attention to this. Matter, yeah and every news piece about
Speaker 1: this should Include britain did. This they already outlawed this
Speaker 1: because it's, well it's. Nuts well the Freaking dutch, Said,
Speaker 1: wow this gender benning stuff for kids is set going
Speaker 1: down that. Road. Man if the Freaking, DUTCH i, mean come,
Speaker 1: on they are well. Known lefty whacked is in a
Speaker 1: lot of. Ways, yeah, sure, absolutely the Freaking. Dutch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay so it's a. Setback even though a majority of
Speaker 1: The Supreme court and a majority of people agree with.
Speaker 1: It you call it a. Setback not. Right, yeah you're
Speaker 1: not and you're. Not you're trying to be a fair
Speaker 1: in your. Headline, okay. Gotcha, no they're not not at. All,
Speaker 1: Well dice cotis well. Done protect those kids. Again, kids you're,
Speaker 1: Beautiful you're exactly the way you're meant to. Be that
Speaker 1: is absolutely. Something, Okay, uh a little skip in my.
Speaker 1: Step so sanity won the. Day we got a lot
Speaker 1: more stuff to talk about. Too I'm i'm excited in
Speaker 1: our Three we're going to talk to my. Clients he's
Speaker 1: a military. Expert he's been in The Middle east in.
Speaker 1: Wars give me the worst case scenario that people keep
Speaker 1: warning us. About what would that look like like The quagmires? Scenario,
Speaker 1: yeah or, whatever them. Retaliating so we got a lot
Speaker 1: on the. Way stay.
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Speaker 4: remembered as a great, speaker and then added, QUOTE i
Speaker 4: may be, wrong who, knows who the hell?
Speaker 1: Knows strong.
Speaker 4: Endorsement don't Let trump give your wedding.
Speaker 1: Toast David gloria will be together forever or? Not who,
Speaker 1: know a lot of, horses that's. Funny speaking of marriage and.
Speaker 1: Divorce do you know Who Kelsey grammar? Is of, Course
Speaker 1: Fraser TV's. Fraser i'd, like would he be on your,
Speaker 1: Radar katie or is he like before your? Time, no
Speaker 1: he's on my. Radar i'm trying to figure out who
Speaker 1: knows who anybody is. Us he does narrations For Fox
Speaker 1: online projects anyway about the revolution in. Generals he's seventy
Speaker 1: years old and he and his wife he is welcoming
Speaker 1: baby number eight into the world now or he's going
Speaker 1: to she is pregnant with. It this will be the
Speaker 1: fourth with his current. Wife he is, seventy his wife
Speaker 1: is forty. Six they've been married for like fifteen. Years
Speaker 1: they've been married for a long. Time, wow she's forty. Six,
Speaker 1: yeah having a. Kid yeah, yeah but that's kid number
Speaker 1: four for for that. Couple and they've been together quite
Speaker 1: a while and good for. Them and he says he's
Speaker 1: happier than he's ever been and he's got eight. Kids
Speaker 1: he's marriage number. Three, AnyWho i am a little late
Speaker 1: in life to, me but you know each there on, yeah,
Speaker 1: man oh, MAN i don't. KNOW i suppose if you're that,
Speaker 1: wealthy you have you hire somebody that handles a lot
Speaker 1: of the physical. STUFF i, mean Because i'd Be i'd
Speaker 1: be pretty grueling at age. SEVENTY i, MEAN i, DID
Speaker 1: i is going to lose his dad in his youth.
Speaker 1: Guaranteed oh, yeah that's not a Trivia, nope that's, YEAH i,
Speaker 1: know that's that's a that's a it's a tough one
Speaker 1: for the trying to understand the world and the way it,
Speaker 1: works the kid not ever, existing because it's not like
Speaker 1: the is going to exist with a different dad who
Speaker 1: he gets to have. Longer, right if you don't have
Speaker 1: him or, her, right it's not like everybody was in,
Speaker 1: line you, know yeah to get the next kid and
Speaker 1: that that's this. Kid, no it's not.
Speaker 2: The way it.
Speaker 1: Works so, YEAH i don't. Know, yeah so a handful
Speaker 1: of stray notes THAT i wanted to squeeze. In, boy
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of time. DOING i was
Speaker 1: reminded of the, phrase and it came from A New
Speaker 1: york protest where they're blocking commuters to make a point
Speaker 1: about immigration and capitalism And gaza and probably Trans it's
Speaker 1: the forever omni cause that Phrase i'd heard, before BUT
Speaker 1: i like, it the forever omni cause that's The gretituneberg's
Speaker 1: a perfect example of. That, yeah then this the back
Speaker 1: to the whole gender benning madness, thing sim Own. Biles
Speaker 1: i'm going to Quote Nelly bowles from The Free press
Speaker 1: a little bit. Here last week Attacked Riley gaines over
Speaker 1: her advocacy for just women and women's, sports called her
Speaker 1: big like a. Man, well she apologized this week in
Speaker 1: a pretty, impressive full throated, way apologizing he's, classy even, though,
Speaker 1: yes it is always nonsensical to argue that biological males
Speaker 1: should be able to compete against females since they're all the,
Speaker 1: same and also That Riley gaines is like a, big ugly,
Speaker 1: man but we all got the. Point. Yeah THE Usa, today,
Speaker 1: though wrote in their coverage of The gains Versus bios,
Speaker 1: debate and this is a quote from THE Usa today
Speaker 1: which is not worth worthy of your parrot crapping on. It. Wow,
Speaker 1: quote there's no scientific evidence that transgender women athletes have
Speaker 1: a physical advantage over assist gender women, athletes but that
Speaker 1: hasn't Stopped gains from claiming they. Do oh my, God
Speaker 1: and that's like a news, story not an opinion. Piece,
Speaker 1: yeah there is no scientific evidence that biological males have
Speaker 1: a physical advantage over biological. Females What, yeah if you
Speaker 1: just repeat an obvi lie a thousand, TIMES i guess
Speaker 1: people give up and say, fine And nelly, writes but
Speaker 1: it's still a, lie even Though i'm sick of fighting.
Speaker 1: It maybe we just give.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: Fine women are just as strong as men by. Nature
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no scientific research or test we could possibly
Speaker 1: do to understand the differences between two groups of, people
Speaker 1: one of which just happens to wear their hair. Long
Speaker 1: i'm weak Because i'm not trying hard, enough but bones
Speaker 1: aren't getting dense and large enough because of my pathetic woman.
Speaker 1: Culture well aren't they making the argument you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: separate men's and women's, gymnastics for, Instance it should just
Speaker 1: be one competition and everybody can beat. Together since there's no,
Speaker 1: advantage why would you separate men and? Women and by the,
Speaker 1: way some own biles wouldn't even make The olympic team
Speaker 1: in that, case, Right, no not even. Close maybe in the,
Speaker 1: fault but probably. Not, YEAH i know there are arguments
Speaker 1: rarely like coalesce into anything coherent like, that just a
Speaker 1: crazy thing to, Say, yeah, yeah, hmm you know this
Speaker 1: is going to take too long to. Explain it's too.
Speaker 1: Bad Christine ahmanpur said because of the immigration, crackdown she
Speaker 1: was afraid to travel To harvard to give a. Speech
Speaker 1: she had carried a burn her phone because she thought
Speaker 1: she was going to get up off the streets and
Speaker 1: getting more on that next. Hour Oh, God armstrong And
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