1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: What's going on everybody. I'm Peanut Tillmans. This is my guy, 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Roman Harfer, and this is the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast. 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: We're in Phoenix, Arizona, at the NFL Annual Meetings. We've 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: got golf, we've got sunshine. We're trying to hit the 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: ball straight. I'm terrible at golf. You got like a 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: two scratch is you're a true strash golfer. Don't be 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: lying to our people. Don't be lying to him like that, 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you to continue to follow us, 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: because we don't lie to you on this podcast. 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We have the Jacksonville Jaguars 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson and the new head coach of 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, Frank Reich, check it out. Today, we 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: got a special guest with us. This gentleman is the 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He previously played for 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: the Packers. He won a super Bowl when he played 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: with the Packers, and he won a super Bowl when 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: he was a head coach with the Philadelphia Eagles. Welcome 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: to the show, Doug Peterson. You know what, let's just 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: get the awkwardness out of the way. Coach with the 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: Eagles could how what was it like to be in 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia to win a championship? Playing in Philadelphia under Shan 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Well Sean Payton on the Saints we go to Philly. 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: He was like, look, the game. The game plan is 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: to get the crowd to boo by halftime because it 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: is so rough. And the fans they are so special 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: and they are so unique. What do you mean you 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: mean they're like they helped bring the Teagle? What was 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: that like? It was, Um, it's very special. I played 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: in that city. I worked with Coach Reid on his 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: staff in that city, and obviously I was a head 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: coach in that city. And it's um, you just said 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: something right there. When you were with the Saints and 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: and coach Peyton said, Hey, if we can jump up 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: and the crowd's gonna turn. Well. I took a Jacksonville 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Jaguar team in there in Week four, Week three or 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: four this past year and I said the exact same thing. 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I said, guys, if we get up on this, on 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: this guy, on these guys, the crowd is gonna turn. 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: And it was four, we were up, fourteen, nothing about 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: to go in twenty one, nothing and the crowd was 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: turning on him. It was turning on him. But but 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: that's their that's their passion. And then for for us 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: to win a championship that year, um, the way we 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: want it with the guys that we want it with. Uh, 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: you know, as you guys know, it's a special it's 54 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: a special bond. We've all been in the locker room. 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: We all understand what that means. And and uh, you know, 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: we lost some guys that year. But for the city 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: of phil Delphia to wait fifty two years and that 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: organization to win a championship, you know, Coach Reid took 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: him to a Super Bowl, and I have a lot 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: of respect for Coach Read they lost. He's been to 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: like five or six NFC championship games with the Eagles, 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, and and so for us that year, um, 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: it's it's very special. And um, you know, I hate 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: to say, but there's a lot of Eagle fans around 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: this country. Yeah, I run into all the time. I 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: just couldn't get down with the grease selling them. The 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: poles didn't they like, oh, they didn't want him to 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: climb up them and to tear him down. But they 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: were still climbing up the boy were trees and they 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: just yea, yeah, they're just different. They got that little 71 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: jail selling and they had like a holding room in 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: there in the stadium. I mean, it's just Philly's Philly, man. 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean I think that's I think that's what makes 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Philly so unique. And a lot of respect for those fans, 75 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: and and I'll tell you they're they're passionate, but they're loyal. 76 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean we I hate to say, we could be 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: four and ten and they're still gonna show out there's 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna pack that you know, that stadium, and you 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: know they're gonna hang with you all season long. So 80 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: how would you compare Eagles fans to Packer fans? Now, 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Packer fans are like, oh you know that that real 82 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: deep Wisconsin on all. You know, all they got that 83 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: that thing there. Oh, I've been there a few times. 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: I feel like they're like the nicest fans though, Like 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: they are extremely nice and loyal in the cold, and 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: they get so much snow. They don't throw snowballs out there. 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on bread far Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, they've 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: had two quarterbacks for like fifty years and you know 89 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they've had it well, they've had 90 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: it good. They've been to they've had a lot of success. 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: They've been to a lot of playoff games, a couple 92 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls. So it's a different crowd. But you're right, 93 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: they it's a it's a um. You know, in the 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: in the in the winter time, you're gonna see nothing 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: but blaze orange, you know, because they just caught got 96 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: out of the hunt Huntever and then they came to 97 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: a game at twelve noon. Um. But again, they're they're 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: they're very loyal, they're very supportive, they're passionate about the Packers. 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: I loved playing there for the eight years that I did. UM. 100 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: And again, there's a lot of Packer fans around this 101 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: country and I still run into a lot of them. Yeah, 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: they travel well, they do. They travel well. So when 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: you so when you were in Green Bay, um, I 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: was back on our Brett farm, Like, what was that 105 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: experience like for you? And how did you make it 106 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: last so long? Being his not just the back back 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: up to him, but that quarterback room what we had, 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: like because you had a lot of great coaches there too, 109 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: and all those Uh I had Steve Mariucci and ninety 110 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: five when I went there, and then and then it 111 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: transitioned to to Marty Morton Wagg and the ultimately we 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: had Andy Reid. Yeah, you know, Andy Reid was our 113 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: position coach there. Um. And you know Daryl Bevil who's 114 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: still coaching, he's in Miami right now. Um, you know, 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: he was one of our position coaches at the times. 116 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of a lot of great coaches, 117 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, coaches. Tom Rossley was the offensive coordinator at 118 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: the time, you know, and and then you know in 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: our room, there was there was Brett, There was Jim McMahon, 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: There was Matt Hasselback Jim, Yeah, Matt Hasselbeck was in there. Man. Yeah, 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, we've we've had you know, Henry Burrus, who 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: oh my good from Canada? From Yeah you know why? Yes? 123 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: In Chicago app a great cup? Yeah, I want a 124 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: great cup. So we've had we've had really really good 125 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: uh quarterback rooms. Um. Obviously they were very lighthearted rooms. 126 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: There was football being taught, but we we enjoyed each 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: other and had had had a great time. So Doug 128 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 1: following up that question, so after you finish your career 129 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: playing wise, when did you know you wanted to get 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: in coaches? You just routed off seven different great head 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: coaches that were all around you at your different times 132 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. We weren't even talking about with Derek. 133 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Coach Rhodes was coaching defense too. I wasn't with him 134 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: though we missed. I missed I missed coach ros That's fine, 135 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: but you still had an influence of yeah, when did 136 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: you know that you want to get in that professor? 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: So my my last my last two years in Green Bay. Um, 138 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: I really started thinking, you know, I was the backup 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: quarterback and it really started getting me. Um thinking about 140 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do after football, how I wanted 141 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: to transition. I wanted to stay in football somehow, someway 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: and so the wheel started turning. And it was not 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: untill that last year in two thousand and four that 144 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: I really felt like coaching was going to be in 145 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: my future. I just didn't know at what level, whether 146 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be high school, college, pro. You know, I 147 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with coaches picking their brains, 148 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, to see just as you guys know, the 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: grind of a season, to grind a lot of year. 150 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot a lot of time what these coaches 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: go through them like, I really really want to do 152 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: I really want to do that. You know, maybe if 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: you college. You know, if you're a college coach, you're 154 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: on the road recruiting, biting two cell phones. You know, 155 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: it's a recruiting phone, and you're I don't know if 156 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: I want to do that. And so I settled on 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: high school football. Uh. Mike Sherman, who was my head 158 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: coach in Green Bay when I when I stepped away, 159 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: um gave me some great advice because he was a 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: high school football coach, you know, in his time. And 161 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: he said, he said, Doug, he said, just you got 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: to find a place where you enjoy teaching the game 163 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: of football. Yeah, wherever you can go and just teach 164 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: the game, figure out where that is for you and 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: then and then plug in. And so for me it 166 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: was it was high school. So I as soon as 167 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: I retired, I got into high school football down in Shreeport, Louisiana. OK. Yeah, 168 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I did that for four years. It was Calvary Calvary Academy. 169 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: I was in there with evangel Christians. It was pretty good. 170 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: They beat the Brakes office a couple of times. Um. 171 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, I did high school coaching for four years. 172 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: But in my was that immediately after you right after 173 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: five I got no time head. Yeah, I went right 174 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: it as a head coach, um and did that for 175 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: four years. But there was still something inside of me 176 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: that there was more. Right, there was more. And having 177 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: been in the league for a combined total about fourteen 178 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: years on and off, you know, when you're around the game, 179 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: you want to get to that next level. And so, 180 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: uh Andy Reid had a had a quality control job 181 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: open and hired me in two thousand and nine to 182 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: come back to Philadelphia as a quality control guys. So 183 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I dumped from high school back into the NFL. So 184 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: did you have any other plans or career plans or 185 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: goals aspirations, I would say outside of coaching when you 186 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: were done. No, this is what it was like, Man, 187 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm going on chips are like here we go. Yeah, no, 188 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm a business major, got a degree 189 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: in business. But I was like, I don't think I 190 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: really want to sit behind a desk or you know, 191 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm not the type that's gonna go sell something. Yeah, 192 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, I was a football guy, and so I 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: mean you could be a head coach, so like, yeah 194 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: you could. I'm feeling it now, like you you could 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: sell me with it. You can sell me with that. 196 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I like your I like your confidence. How was what 197 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: are those conversations like though? When you you know you 198 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: typically it's the oc DC and then you have a 199 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: successful season or two and then your name kind of 200 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: gets floated around becoming a head coach, Like what are 201 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: those conversations like? Is it just are you on the 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: phone talking to other teams? Is that you're your agent? Like, Hey, 203 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: I got some news, m Philadelphia Eagles want to possibly 204 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: your your name's been trounation And a good question because 205 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: you as sean something very similar to this yesterday. Yeah, 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: like how does how does that even? Like occur or 207 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: how does it arise about you coming head? So for me, 208 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: for me, I was the offensive coordinator in Kansas City 209 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: with with Andy Reid, you know, because we when Andy 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: got fired in Philly in twenty twelve, got hired in 211 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. He brought me as an offensive coordinator. I 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: was just a quarterback coach and Philly left to go 213 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: be AZOC and then you know, we had we had 214 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: early success in Kansas City. Alex Smith is our quarterback, 215 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and we had early success for those first two three years. Well, 216 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: as you guys know in this in this business, ocs 217 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: and DC's, when you have success, their names start to 218 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: pop up around the different circles for for head coaches 219 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: and and so for me, my agent, you know, had 220 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: been been kind of talking to, um, you know, some 221 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: of these different circles, the guys that you know, the 222 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: powers to be around the NFL, and and um you know, 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: actually it was in twenty fourteen my name had come 224 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: up the first time and I told my agent said, 225 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm not ready. I'm not ready to be head coach. 226 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: I need I need another year. I'm just I'm just 227 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: not there yet. Um. So I played or coach the 228 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen season, and that's when what's from Philadelphia And 229 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: there was a lot of familiarity with going back to 230 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia for me. Uh, it was a good transition, good 231 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: fit and um got hired in twenty sixteen. So in 232 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: that that little time where you were like, I'm not ready, 233 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: did you start to prepare in another way? Did you 234 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: start to say, Okay, I might need to think about 235 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: you do app you need to? You do you have to? 236 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: You have to really transition your mind from you know, 237 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: you're you're an offensive coordinator coaching one side of the 238 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: ball right now, you gotta think big picture. Yeah, you 239 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: gotta think organizationally. Yeah, not just the football side, but 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: you're also dealing with the business side, right businessman? Yeah yeah, 241 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: So for me it was about okay, learning learning more 242 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: of the business side too, and and you know, um, 243 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: but do you do that as like so when you're 244 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: the OC in you're under like I think Andy Read 245 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: we can say he can be a Hall of Fame 246 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: coach one day, like he's an amazing coach, But you're 247 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: you're doing a job calling all the plays and getting 248 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball or offensive players ready. 249 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Do you get coached as the OC. Are you actually 250 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: like taking notes on how coach Read is running the team, 251 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: how co Tread is running the business, how co Tread 252 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: is interacting with the team, how co Tread is doing 253 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: everything with the GM and the pro personnel in college, Like, 254 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: did you start taking notes of like, Okay, this is 255 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: what he this is what he does. Okay, he does this, 256 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: he does that? Like are you still getting coached herself? 257 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: You know. It's it's interesting because the three years I 258 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: was in Kansas City being the offensive coordinator, I got 259 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with Coach Read because 260 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: he's an offensive mind and all, and so we did 261 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: game plans together and the whole thing. So those three 262 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: years he really started pouring into me what it was 263 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: like to be a head coach. Okay, and so for 264 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: three years I was just like a sponge just absorbing 265 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: everything that he all his knowledge and wisdom and everything, 266 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: because you know, he's been fourteen seasons as a head 267 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: coach in Philadelphia before he went to Kansas City, and 268 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: so this is the first time sort of behind the 269 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: scenes look for me of what a head coach looks like. 270 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: And so he but he does that with all of 271 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: his guys. You look at the Sean mcdermotts and the 272 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: Ron Rivers and the guys that have you know, Matt 273 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: Naggie's and the Eric the enemies of the world and 274 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: those guys that are going to go on to have 275 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: been head coaches and will be head coaches. You know, 276 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: you just named like six head coaches that came off 277 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: of him. I guess I didn't realize that, you know, 278 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: But but that's what he does. Yeah, and he he's 279 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: more about coaching his coaches than he is coaching the players. Yeah, 280 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: you know. And um, and that's what he did for 281 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: the three years. And that's Uh. You just got to 282 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: be a sponge and take it all in. So when 283 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: you're when your coaching career ended with the Eagles, all right, 284 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: you you really took You took a whole year off. 285 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I did. And how important was that for you to 286 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: take a full year off to kind of decompress. I 287 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: did that after my career playing Gears. P Nut did not. 288 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: I did not, so foolish. What would you say was 289 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the reasoning behind that and would you suggest it for others? 290 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: The reasoning for me um coming off of the twenty 291 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: twenty seasons right after the twenty twenty seasons. That's the 292 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: pandemic season. It was rough on all all clubs, and 293 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: it was obviously rough on us in Philadelphia. We didn't 294 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: play well. Quarterback issues and things like that, and I 295 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: was not in a good place mentally physically. I just 296 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: was not in a good place. And and and um, looking 297 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: back on it, it was probably a blessing to be 298 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: released because I did take I did. I need I 299 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: needed time. I needed time, you know, for me, I 300 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: needed to get away from the game. I needed to 301 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: get away from from football and just separate myself just 302 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: a little bit and really kind of clear your head 303 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: and really think about what life is going to look like. 304 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Either either you're going to step away from the game 305 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: and retire, or do I want to continue and coach. 306 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: And so as the twenty one season went, and I did, 307 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, I had some issues with my brother and 308 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: and um, you know, he passed away to pancreatic cancer 309 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: that year. So I got to spend a lot of 310 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: time with our brother. I appreciate it and spend a 311 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: lot of time with him and his wife. And so 312 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: there were life things. We had a wedding, our oldest 313 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: son got married that year. So there's things in life 314 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: that come up. And sometimes, as you guys know, and 315 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: football you miss, right, you miss sometimes the job proceeds 316 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: family and that's you know, you don't you don't like that, right, 317 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: So this gave me a chance to really dig into 318 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: the family a little bit and be around family and 319 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: and um, also give me a perspective to how, if 320 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: given an opportunity again, how to how to coach again, 321 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: and how to be a better coach, and how to 322 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: really influence players right, and how to how to lead 323 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: an organization, lead a team. Um, because I knew it 324 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: didn't take long. It took a couple of months, but 325 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to get back into coaching. It 326 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't done. I was young. I'm young. I'm 327 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: in you know, mid fifties, but I'm relatively young something. Yeah. 328 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: It was same, the same, same hair, y'all like. But yeah, 329 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: so that year was really good. So I you know, 330 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: but you look at Frank Reich. Frank Reich got let 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: go during the middle of the season and he got 332 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: right back into it this year, which for its different, right, 333 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: it's just but for me, it was what I needed 334 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: at the time to get back in because that window 335 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: of opportunity closes so fast in this league that I 336 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't want that to pass by either. Um you know, 337 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: and I had opportunities to be a coordinator again in 338 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. I just the teams were not going to 339 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: get the best version of me right right because I 340 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a I wasn't a bad place mentally and physically. 341 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Kudos for you for like realizing that and kind of 342 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: stepping away, and thanks for sharing that. I think a 343 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: lot of people need to do more of the you 344 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: know what, I just need take my time off, take 345 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: my three sixty five. You got great advice. Who told 346 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: you to take your time off? You your GM my GM. Yeah, 347 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: Mickey Lumis told Mickey Lemis said, you know, if you 348 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: want to be involved with football in any shape, form 349 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: or fashion, he said, I was a just you take 350 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: take some time, take a year off, like you've been 351 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: able good, you played a long career, you made plenty 352 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: of money, Take some time really decompressed, and then figure 353 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: out like self reflecting, like really get away from the 354 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: game and then say you might start sing it again 355 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: kind of like maybe what you did well and you start, 356 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: you start, you start feeling better, and you feel like 357 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: you can be a better version of yourself the next 358 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: time around. Right, because of the experiences that you went through. Yeah, um, 359 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: you know leading up to that decision, this, that was 360 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: your first break because you stopped playing, stop playing, high 361 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: school coaching, NFL coaching. So yeah, it was your first break, 362 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: my first break in a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good. Well, yeah, 363 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: good for both of y'all for doing I don't I 364 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: don't think I ever took time off. I just kind 365 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: of kept going. So I'm envious to both of y'all 366 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: for for doing that. But yeah, that's another another topic 367 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: another day. So when you were in Philly, Uh, Jalen 368 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: hurts you guys drafted him and it probably wasn't received 369 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: well around the league. Now I know you're not with 370 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: We talked about these Philly fans booing, so that natural, 371 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: It is natural, but it wasn't very well received in 372 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: the beginning, right, I know you're no longer there, but uh, 373 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: he's gone out played well, you know, had an MVP 374 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: MVP caliber season. What was it about Jalen that drew 375 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: you to like lacking him and drafting him? So I 376 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: was there obviously when we drafted him in twenty twenty UM, 377 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: and we're we're sitting there on day two of the 378 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: draft on Friday, and you know, um, Howie Roseman, Um, 379 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lurie, myself, I can remember having a conversation saying, Hey, 380 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: if if Jalen is sitting there at our pick, we 381 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: should pick him. We should take him. And I was 382 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: like yeah, all of us were like yes, yes, And 383 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't to draft him to replace Carson 384 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Wentz at the time. In this league, you need two quarterbacks, 385 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: you need you need a solid backup quarterback. And so 386 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: we felt like that this was our This is a 387 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: great option. He's a tremendous athlete, good quarterbacks, smart kid. 388 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: But before all of that, I've had a chance to 389 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: talk to Brian Dabele who coached me in Alabama, right 390 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. You know, I talked to a 391 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of people and just watching his film and knowing 392 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: his story. This guy's this guy's wired the right way. 393 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: This guy is a football player. And I just felt 394 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: that if this kid gets an opportunity wherever, whether it's 395 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: in Philly or maybe somewhere else, down the road, this 396 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: kid is gonna shine. I just I just felt that 397 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: my heart of heart's just understanding who he is. And 398 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: so for the short you know, one year that I 399 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: was with him, I saw that I saw his work ethic, 400 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: the way he prepared, and he was he was the backup. 401 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: He was he started the season like the third quarterback, 402 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and then he made him made his way to the 403 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: second and then ultimately played and started the last four 404 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: games of the season that year. But I just knew 405 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: that if this kid, if this kid gets an opportunity, 406 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna do some really good special things. And 407 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: you know we've seen it here now, not only last year, 408 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: but this past season, or I should say two seasons 409 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: ago and then this last year. Um, just what what 410 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: he's capable of doing. And and I had a chance 411 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: to see him back in February and just, uh, you know, 412 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: just tell him how proud I was of him and 413 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: how he's he's battled through. Owe you like they owe 414 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: you a ton well for bringing them in. I think 415 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: his former player, as a former player, it really does 416 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: mean the most. When you have your former colleagues, your 417 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: coaches that you passed through times and they really still 418 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: all keep up with you and ye there and when 419 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: they you hear those words like hey, I'm watching, I'm 420 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: proud of you, we do take that for granted. So well, 421 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: we don't take it for granted. And it does mean 422 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot. And I'm sure you had that when you 423 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: we're a former player and went run to other coaches, 424 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: other coaches and stuff like that. Yeah, tell you, tell 425 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: you those kinds of things, yes, yeah, and means a lot. 426 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard was my guy. Chris Ballard's after me, so 427 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: I could I could talk to Chris and I could 428 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: text Chris right now, And I tell everyone to this day, man, 429 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I came to Chicago because Chris Ballard he saw something 430 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: in me, the hard heart, and it was just like, no, 431 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Get this kid from Louise and Lafayette. 432 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: I know, no one knows the school, nobody knows where 433 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: it's at, but draft this kid, he's well the Louisanna connects. 434 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, no doubt so so Doug Um in 435 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: your current situation, we all heard the stories about how 436 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: toxic this situation was in Jacksonville before you arrived. And 437 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: what could you say was the biggest thing, um, and 438 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: how important Sorry not the biggest thing, but how important 439 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: was it for you to change that culture? You know? 440 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me? And again this was all 441 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: part of twenty one being out of football. How was 442 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: I going to be the better version of myself? And 443 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: then when when the Jacksonville thing started gaining a little 444 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: more traction, and then that might be the landing spot 445 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: for me. I had to kind of research the situation 446 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: a little bit and see just kind of went on 447 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: that what went on down there? And um, it wasn't good. 448 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't good. Um the players, the players were really 449 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: in a bad in a bad place, you know, mentally 450 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: coming out of that season. And and for me, for me, 451 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: it was about, Okay, I'm the next head coach standing 452 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: in front of these guys. How are they going to 453 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: trust me? Because they lost faith and trust in the 454 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: in the head coach before, So how are they going 455 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: to trust me? I'm just I'm a head coach figure, right, 456 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: So I didn't even know if I was gonna have 457 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: players at the off season program, right, volunteer program. Everybody's 458 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: out and they're like, I ain't going you know, we 459 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: got we got drove into ground our practices were hard. 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the off season. I mean, you know, 461 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: so I put together a message, um to the guys 462 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: that first day, and and I actually did it over 463 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: the course of a couple of weeks. But we I 464 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: talked a lot about communication. I talked a lot about that. 465 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: I talked a lot about trust, you know, and in 466 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: me trusting you, you trusting me. Um. I talked a 467 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: lot about the people that we surround ourselves with, right, 468 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: the right people in our building, outside of our building. 469 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: And so I just kept kept formulating these ideas with 470 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: the players, and slowly, over time, I think I was 471 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: able to gain their trust, right and and and then 472 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, we just kind of worked through, you know, 473 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: because there were questions like, coach, how are these OTA 474 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: practices gonna go? So, what do you mean, We're gonna 475 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: be out there an hour and twenty minutes, We're gonna 476 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: get our work done. We're gonna be done. What what 477 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: are you talking about? It was gonna be easy, you know, 478 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna meet you and lift some weights and you 479 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: can go home this our day. Wow, you go get 480 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: paid whatever. Um. But But I think too, I think 481 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: they had respect for me because I sat in their chair, 482 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, as a former player, and and I could 483 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: relate to them and and so there's a there's a 484 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: lot of that that goes back and forth. Um that 485 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: that really sort of impacted our football football team really 486 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: heading into training camp that year and still really not 487 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: knowing how we were gonna do. You know, I felt 488 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: like we could be a five hundred ball club that 489 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: first year. Yea. Um, but uh, you know, we exceeded 490 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: probably everybody else's expectations but our own. As you guys know, 491 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: you only leaving yourself and your team, and you felt 492 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: like you're a good football team. And we did some 493 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: good things last year. So one of the things we 494 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: all have our welcome to the NFL moment, right, I 495 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: know we all have them as players, But I'm gonna 496 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: switch it up and I'm gonna ask you what was 497 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: your welcome to the NFO moment as a head coach? Like, 498 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: what what was that moment where He's like, damn, so 499 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: this is what it's like to be a head coach? 500 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I didn't. I didn't see that coming. 501 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: And it just like really like holy you know what. 502 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: It It kind of shook me. What what was that moment. 503 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: It was actually my first my first regular season game 504 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia in twenty and sixteen, played the Cleveland Browns 505 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: at home at Lincoln Financial, and you know, I coached 506 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: the preseason games and it was like, oh, these are 507 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: great preseason games, but this is the regular season. Yeah, 508 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: And that ball teed up and it kicked off, and 509 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: I went, oh boy. In my mind, I'm like, Okay, 510 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: this just got real because now you're you're you're you're 511 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: managing the game. Yeah, I got a red flag in 512 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: my pocket that I may have. Yeah, you know, I've 513 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: gotta I'm gonna call time outs and you know I've 514 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: gotta oh wait, I gotta I gotta flip to the 515 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: defensive side, and I gotta listen to what coach Schwartz 516 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: is talking about, you know. And so it just it 517 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: just became for me. It just became kind of that aha, 518 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: like this is real, this is now. Okay. I kind 519 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: of like it, but at the same time, you're kind 520 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: of paranoid a little bit. That's the first time I've 521 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: heard a coach saying that, It's like, man, this has 522 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: got real. I heard players say it all the time, 523 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: but I say something it gets real because you're you're 524 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: you know. And then at the end of the we 525 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: won the game. Um, plus we're playing a rookie quarterback, 526 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz a rookie first game. Yeah, he's a rookie, 527 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: you know. So there's a lot of things kind of 528 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: going against you a little bit in that in that 529 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: first uh, that first deal we ended up seven to 530 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: nine that season. But um, you learn, right, you learn. 531 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: You learn from the good, the bad, the ugly, as 532 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: we say, and um, each week we got a little 533 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: bit better and and uh end up winning a championship 534 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: in year two. Now pick one real quick, because I 535 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: got to know this. I know they want us to 536 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: hurry up. I know we've got a couple of minutes. 537 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: But who are you rooting for in this past Super Bowl? 538 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: The Eagles are the Chiefs? I plead the fifth alight. 539 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't accept that answer. I would like that answer. 540 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: It was very close. But I had to know. I 541 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: had to know that here's a good duck who is 542 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: on your personal Mount Rushmore of influence, not just football 543 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: but in life for you. Well, you got four. I 544 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: get four because some people might not know how many 545 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: of the Mount Rushmore. I get it. I didn't understand. 546 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: But one of them, one of them is my Lord 547 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: and Savior, Jesus Christ's love. Yeah, he's number one. UM, 548 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: number two. I would definitely have to put Andy Reid 549 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: up there. Um the impact he had not only as 550 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: my playing career, but but as my coaching career, professional career. 551 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: Um Andy, Andy would be one of those. Uh, my dad, 552 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: My dad's on that list. My dad passed away. He 553 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: never got to see me coach of head football as 554 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: a head coach. He never got to see me coach 555 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: a game. He passed away actually the last preseason weekend 556 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: right before the first regular right before that Cleveland Browns game. 557 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: So he passed away that week before. So he never 558 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: got to see me head coach. So, but he's on there. 559 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: The impact he had, uh in my life as a 560 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, he coached me, coached me hard, probably shaped 561 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of my beliefs and the way where I 562 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: am um um today. And then the fourth one, Um, 563 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: the fourth one for me I could name. There's a 564 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: lot of guys that have influenced or shaped shaped my career. 565 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Mike Holmgren was another head coach 566 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: had in Green Bay. He pulled me aside. I was 567 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: I was playing. He pulled me aside during during training camp, 568 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: and um, we were actually passing each other in the 569 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: building and he told me, he says, he said, Doug 570 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: your you're a good quarterback. You can be so much better. 571 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: He says, you need it. You need to really focus 572 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: on taking your game to another to another level. You know, 573 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: the offense, you know what to do. You can manage 574 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But it's now it's kind of like 575 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: just cut it loose. Yeah, right, don't hold back. Just 576 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: go cut it loose, take it to another to another notch. 577 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: And and that really challenged me from a player's perspective. 578 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: But it also challenged me now a little bit, you 579 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: know because back in seventeen we were you know, I 580 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: was thinking about, you know, do all these fourth down 581 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: decisions and two point conversion decisions, and you know, it's 582 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: like taking your team to another level. It's like cutting 583 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: the guy's loose, don't hold the guy's back. Um. And 584 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: and so for me, those would be the four guys 585 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: I would put up there. Um that that really shaped 586 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: and influenced, uh, you know my career now was that 587 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Uh is that baby Jesus or is that the old Jesus? 588 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: Is it thirty thirty two year old Jesus was the 589 00:29:52,920 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: baby Jesus? Jesus? This is a full grown Okay. My 590 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: last question though, is Um, we retire every year and 591 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: you when you were retiring, you were trying to figure 592 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: out what should I do next? What would your advice 593 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: be on a player that is retiring after this season 594 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: going into retirement? What what would your advice be to him? Wow? Um, 595 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: First of all, if if if somebody, if somebody is 596 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: either if they're contemplating retirement or thinking about retirement, UM, 597 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: just just make sure that it's it's it's the right decision, 598 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: because you know, I feel like that when when when 599 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: guys get in that in that situation one, there's probably 600 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: something waiting for him right post post you know, career, right, 601 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: whether it's still in the business or somewhere else. You know, 602 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: so that that usually pulls guys, guys into different in 603 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: different directions. UM that way, but you know, the advice 604 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: is just to enjoy, reconnect with your families, right, reconnect 605 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: with your your friends, reconnect some of the relationships that 606 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: sometimes football UM can can tug one just a little bit. 607 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: I you think about our our spouses, I mean they 608 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're the ones that probably sacrifice the most 609 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: in this in this especially on the coaching side, you know, 610 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: because the time away, and they're the ones that are, um, 611 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, running the kids to schools and grocery shop 612 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: and keeping the house together and all that kind of 613 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: stuff and so reconnecting, reconnecting right there. But just enjoy it, 614 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: Enjoy enjoy the memories, Enjoy your teammates. Um. As you 615 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: head into retirement, look back on your career, you know, 616 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: enjoy those moments that um, the bonds that you had 617 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room, I think those are the ones 618 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: you carry for a lifetime. Rite those those friendships, whether 619 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: it's you've been on you know, multiple teams or one team. UM. 620 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: But but just enjoy it, enjoy life. UM back and 621 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, um, just think about the next chapter in 622 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: the direction you want to go? Cool? Does that's a rap? 623 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man, thanks, you really appreciate it. How can 624 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: you not root for the Jacksonville Jaguars after listening to 625 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: the dug or coach Peterson, UM, I'm really excited. I 626 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: didn't really know a ton about him, but I'm really 627 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: rooting for him now moving forward and in the decisions 628 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: and where this organization is going. Like I'm really excited 629 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: about where they're going and what he's doing. I think 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: you should be, Doug. He really showed himself. He was 631 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: very natural, very candid with us, and really opened up 632 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: about his own experiences as being a head coach and 633 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: also a former player. This next coach you're going to 634 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: be listening to Frank Wright really excited about what everything 635 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: he's doing for the Carolina Panthers and going forward. Let's 636 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: listen in on his experiences, what brought him to this 637 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: place and where he's leading this organization. Our next guest, 638 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: and I'm getting to do the honors of introducing this man, 639 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: this young man right here. He's currently the head coach 640 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: for the Carolina Panther. He's a two time Super Bowl champion, 641 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: winning a ring with the Colts and the Eagles. He 642 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: also played quarterback in the NFL for thirteen years. Mister 643 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: Frank will coach, head coach Frank right now. But I 644 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: wasn't all the way done here because I want to 645 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: talk about the press conference when you got introduced to 646 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: the Carolina as the Carolina Panthers latest head coach. I 647 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: thought your family you were good, but the family overall 648 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: was excellent. You guys had the Carolina Blues nailed down. 649 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: The lighting was excellent, your speech was great. They showed 650 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: the highlight tape of you throwing the first touchdown pass 651 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: and Carolina Panthers history. It was to Pete Meslar's the 652 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: tight end. As a matter of fact, they had white 653 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: jersey's on. He had Pete Meslars there. He had a 654 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: whole bunch of his former teammates there. The Carolina Panthers 655 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: really went all out. David Tepper, everybody, Missus Wright, the daughter, 656 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: everybody looked great that day. It was beautiful. I must 657 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: say I was amazed. I was wild and now I'm 658 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: in the presence of greatness. So thank you. Hey, I 659 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: love love that intro, and yeah, it was a great day. 660 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: And when you have three daughters, you got to get 661 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: the fashion right right right. It was on, hold are 662 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: your daughters. The daughters are all married, so they're thirty three, 663 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: thirty one, and twenty seven. Yea. The husbands look good too. 664 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: Everybody was in the colors. Grandkids, you know, the whole best. 665 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: But the grandkids were kind of not in the shot 666 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: in the spotlight. But we had a great day. That's 667 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. So okay, here we go, So let's 668 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: just get the awkwardness out the way. So I didn't 669 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: even notice until I read a little bio earlier, was 670 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: that you were the quarterbacks coach in the Indian app 671 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: with the Indian App his colts in Super Bowl forty 672 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: four where your team was fourteen and two in the 673 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: regular season and you eventually to the Super Bowl to 674 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: a thirteen and three New Orleans Saints team. Yeah, how 675 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: was that possible? You guys are favored by most of 676 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: the experts all week long. What what went wrong that day? 677 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're just hitting me right 678 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: in the face with us to start. That's the way 679 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: to go, and that's the way to bring it strong. 680 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: Um you know we did. We had we had a lead, 681 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: I believe at halftime, and they came out of the 682 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: fake on you know, surprising on sidekick you know called 683 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: by coach Payton start the second half. Really turned the tide, 684 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, really turned the tide. But um, we were 685 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: I was just talking about that with a couple of 686 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: guys last night, that that game. But a couple of 687 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: the Eagles guys about the difficulty of losing the Super Bowl. 688 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: It's rough, you know, it's a rough feeling. It's a 689 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: bad game to lose. Yeah, I've I've lost two. Um 690 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: flipping it. I'll give you. This is a layup though, Like, 691 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: how was it you know, your first coaching gig two 692 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: thousand and six, two thousand and seven, you were one 693 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: of the I think quarterbacks are quite just an I 694 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: had kind of been an offseason intern was not actually 695 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: there during the season, but had been there in the 696 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: off season. So the real first experience of it on 697 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: field as far as the victory was in Philadelphia in seventeen. Um. 698 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: I did do that internship when they won it in 699 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: in seven, but the true experience was in seventeen with 700 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Yeah, because you were on staff, not on 701 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: staff with the Bears Colts, and I was on the 702 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: field with the Bears at the time. And to answer 703 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: the question to follow with it, yeah, it sucks. I 704 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: still haven't gotten over my two Super Bowl losses. I'm 705 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: like owing two with Peyton Manning. I don't even like 706 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning because just like destroyed us in Super bowls, 707 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: man I just, uh, why did you bring that up? 708 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: And he never lets me live that down. No, because 709 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: I because you won my one. And you know, the 710 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: on side kicked like you talked about. We had practiced 711 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: that so many times and I was supposed to recover it, 712 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: but your guys, I'm not gonna bring his name up, 713 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: but kind of touched it and then it kind of 714 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: went awry. But that's why you on side kick it 715 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: to the same sideline, because we knew if anything goes wrong, 716 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: we wanted to be on our sidelines so we could 717 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: get the refs and be arguing like it was us. 718 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: And that was back in the day when you couldn't 719 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: pull guys out of the podt Was that one of 720 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: those one where just the kickoff team knew it was coming? 721 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: Did you guys tell anybody else? Or like, did everyone 722 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: knows a pre game? Like you never even heard the backstory? Okay, 723 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: all right, right here we go. So we get in 724 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: a halftime, you know, it's an extended period at in halftime, 725 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: Sean comes over to the defense because most of the 726 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: defense is on the kickoff team. He said, I'm running 727 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: the surprise on site and we're like, yeah, okay, whatever, 728 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: just like like, and we thought he would change by 729 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: the time we actually went out there and he was like, 730 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm still calling it like it's still up running ambush 731 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: and we were like, all right, let's go. So my 732 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't think I even got nervous because I'd recovered 733 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: it so many times and practiced it. And then when 734 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: the play went awry, like we had never practiced that, 735 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: we didn't know what was going to happen, if it unbelievable, 736 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: if it went wrong, and it went wrong, and we 737 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: just happened to follow on it, so it kind of 738 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: went crazy. But yes, that is a whole backstory. Sean 739 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: came in the beginning, he said he was going to 740 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: do it at halftime. As soon as we went in there, 741 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: he was so confident with it, and we were like, 742 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: all right, let's do it, and we knew we needed 743 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: to do something because we literally had not stopped the 744 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: Colts all day. You guys. Yeah, I also think in 745 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: that game, if you remember, you know, we got a 746 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: little you know, at the end of the first half, 747 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, we got a little conservative. Did 748 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: you went with a fullback dive? You should have just 749 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: stayed pedal on the medal because we hadn't slowed you 750 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: down at all. I know, I know, I still we 751 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: still got that one a little bit. But those are 752 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: the only things that really changed that whole game. That's awesome. Um, 753 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: all right, well here we go. Let's go to currently. 754 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: So what drew you to Carolina? Besides your former you know, 755 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: playing there all those other things, What really drew you 756 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: to this opportunity? Because I know when David Tepper talked 757 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: about it, he mentioned, you know, the other candidates, and 758 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: he said, look, when Frank Wright came in, he had 759 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: it nailed down of a future plan. Yeah. His vision 760 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: was something that everybody could just get behind immediately. Yeah. 761 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: And really, what I felt when I walked into that 762 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: room in the interview was like I felt like we 763 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: were working. I mean like there was an instant connection, 764 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, with the Teppers, with David Nicole Tepper, with 765 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: Scott Fitter, you know, the GM, with the whole crew 766 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: that was there, and you know, just felt like a conversation. 767 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: It didn't feel like an interview. And that in both 768 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: the first interview and the second interview. So obviously I'd 769 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: played there and lived there for thirteen years, so I 770 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: already felt like home. My children are living in North Carolina. 771 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: But the commitment and just hearing you know, mister Tapper 772 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: talk about okay, you know, he and Nicole had been 773 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: owners now for a number of years, but hey, they're 774 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: ready to put the pedal to the metal. Let's go. 775 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: The commitment from them, that's a big deal. Yeah, it is. 776 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: And so this is your second opportunity as a head coach. Yeah, 777 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: and maybe you could give us a little bit insight 778 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: of some things that you learned from your first experience 779 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: that you will be different and how and how will 780 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: you treat this from different overall as well? Yeah, I 781 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: mean it's it's unbelievable. How I don't want to say 782 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: it's it's easy. It's not easy. But like when you 783 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: first become a head coach the first times, it is 784 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: a little bit like drinking you know, water from a 785 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: fire hose, right, I mean, it's it can be overwhelming, 786 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, so much stuff going on. Uh, this time around, 787 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: it just felt like, okay, let's go season. I know 788 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: what we're doing. This is version two point Oh. You 789 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: know you get to debug things, right, It's like an app, 790 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: you know, you get version two Um, it's updated it's improved. 791 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: You got out the bad program. You know. For me, 792 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, that was just a question of understanding the 793 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: chemistry of the staff, you know, understanding you know, the 794 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: team we're trying to build, and that's what we were 795 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: able to go in and paint that vision for mister Tepper. 796 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: So what's what's been the toughest thing being a head coach? Like, say, 797 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: you your first time, like I was, we just asked 798 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: a bug that you know, everyone has that welcome to 799 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: the NFL moment as a player, What was your welcome 800 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: to the NFL moment as a coach? As a head coach? Yeah, 801 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's you know, you're no longer 802 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 1: just calling the plays. You know, you're over every aspect 803 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: of the of the football operations. So that's both the 804 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, welcome to the excuse me, welcome to the NFL. 805 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 1: But honestly, for me, that was like what I wanted, 806 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: Like that was like I couldn't wait for that. I 807 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: felt like I was made for that. So you know, 808 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: to learn to go in to dive in with the defense, 809 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, you get to know the defensive players, get 810 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, get in defensive meetings with the coaches. You know, understand, 811 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to micromanage what the defense is doing, 812 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: but you really got to put your hand in touch 813 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: on every part of the team. Yeah, Doug talked about that. 814 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: He said, like, you know, he remembered like, oh man, 815 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: I'm not just calling him offense play, i gotta switch 816 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: over to the defense. R It's like listen in and 817 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: it really is different. Was your main goal always to 818 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: be a head coach or like when did that decision 819 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: come into factor? Like, you know what I'm gonna coach. 820 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: I want to be a head coach. Well, naturally, you 821 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: want to be probably the best, which is the head coach. 822 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: You want to be the league guy, especially playing a quarterback. 823 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: When did that happen for you? Like when I was 824 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: like six, you know, I mean, I'm not kidding. I 825 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: mean I came from a family of coaches, you know, 826 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I wanted to be a player first, 827 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, like all of us, right, we wanted to play. 828 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: But when I was in nineteen eighty five my rookie season, 829 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: Bill Pollyan came up to me after the season was over, 830 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: who was the general manager at the time. He said, 831 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: you're going to play a long time as a as 832 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: a player, and then when you finished, you're gonna be 833 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: a head coach in this You're gonna be a head 834 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: coach in this league. That was in nineteen eighty five, 835 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 1: after my rookie season, So you know, having a guy 836 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: like that come up to you. M. I come from 837 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: a family of coaches. My dad was a head high 838 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: school coach. My mom was a coach. She coached everything. 839 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: She coached field, hockey, cheerleading, track and field. I mean, 840 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, she was the the ultimate high school teacher. 841 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: I can coach anything. So my brother's a head coach. 842 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: You know, I just think I've wired that way, but 843 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: I brought up that way, so M. But the thing is, 844 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: you guys know this, you know, seeing it from the 845 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: player's side that you know, as a coach, you don't 846 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: want to be that guy who's coming in just trying 847 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: to climb the ladder. So I never took it like that. 848 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: I honestly did. I knew, hey because I played fourteen 849 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: years so and then I took seven years where I 850 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: was out of football before I got so I didn't 851 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: get back into coaching until I was really in my 852 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: mid forties. So could I ever think I'd make it. 853 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was just gonna take it year 854 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: by year, do the best I could and hope that 855 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: it worked out. So when you got away from football, 856 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: you set for seven years, right, Yeah, what were you 857 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: doing in that time? We all didn't ask players. Doug 858 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: said he never took time off. He went straight went 859 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: right into coaching. You took a year off. I didn't 860 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: take a year off. I wish I would have took 861 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: a year off. Like, what did you do and what 862 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: made you just decide to stay away from the game. Yeah, 863 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: so I had opportunities to go into coaching right away, 864 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: but as we talked about earlier, at the onset of 865 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: the program of three young daughters, you know, I think 866 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: when I finished, they were like nine, seven and four. 867 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: So I knew once you get into coaching, man, it's 868 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: one hundred plus hours a week. And I was like, 869 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: I know, I want to coach, but I want to 870 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: help raise my children first, you know. So I wanted 871 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: to help them with homework, go to swim meets, you 872 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: know all that stuff. So I said, I'm going to 873 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: take a couple of years really invest into my family, 874 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: my children, you know, my wife and I could do 875 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: some things together because once you get into coaching things commitment, 876 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: and then we also you know, I also you know, 877 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: I went into full time ministry and so I was 878 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: able to kind of keep my own schedule, did a 879 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: lot of traveling and speaking. So that was the combination 880 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: of things that I did for those few years. So 881 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: now that you are head coach, every coach has their philosophy, 882 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: Every coach has their saying of what they think the 883 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: team should be. We obviously know when Carolina is to 884 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: keep pounding. I played in carol. We both played in 885 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: Carolina for a year where you played two, I played one. 886 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: What has been your philosophy or what is your philosophy 887 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: late going into the season. Yeah, No, the keep pounding 888 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: thing is a way to talk about what we've always 889 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: talked about for me, and that's that that keep pounding 890 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: is a relentless pursuit for sustained excellence. Right, So we 891 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: talked about that as an organization already with the Panthers. Right, 892 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: So we're gonna clearly define what keep pounding and that's 893 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: a relentless pursuit for sustained excellence. Um. Yeah, we all 894 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: want the goal, we all want the Super Bowl that 895 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about. But we think the best way to 896 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: get there is is to create that sustained excellence, like 897 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 1: create a high floor so that when the opportunities present 898 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: itself to reach for those championships were in striking distance. 899 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: So you're with the Panthers. Now, you guys have made 900 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: the trade of the off season. Let's let's go ahead 901 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: to call it what it is. Extremely busy. I like 902 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: the moves you're making those. I like it. I like 903 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: it with this opportunity to draft a franchise quarterback, like 904 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: all the pressure that comes with that, all the decision making, 905 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: all of the thought process, the mindset that so many hours, 906 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: the manpower to create all these things, this opportunity. Could 907 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: you just give us a little bit of insight. I'm 908 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: not telling us to give us the pick, even though 909 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: I think I know. But yeah, as anything, that's great. Um, 910 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: you know with Scott Fitter, the GM, Dann Morgan and 911 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: assistant GM, the whole whole crew. Uh, mister missus Tepper, 912 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: they've been great. So the processes, you know, dive in right. 913 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: Scott and his crew they already have the event. They've 914 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: been evaluating these quarterbacks for you know, forever. So I 915 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: just get here. So I sit down. I listened to 916 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: where where are our scouts at? Where's Scott at? On 917 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: his view of all these quarterbacks as we as a 918 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: coaching step begin to dive in. Now, Hi, let's get 919 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: out and meet these guys. Let's you know, let's go 920 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: to the pro days. Let's sit down, have dinner with him. 921 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: We've seen you. Yeah, let's bring them into our building. 922 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, Let's let's dig down deep and take every second, 923 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: every hour, every day to finish and confirm what we 924 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: believe from the very start of this process. And that's 925 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 1: what we're doing. It's a lot of fun. These guys 926 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: are all these guys are fun to hang out with. 927 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's yeah, I didn't well and that and 928 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: then and then and then on top of that, right, 929 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: so you get that trade as as we're talking about 930 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: and when you said about the moves, the big one 931 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: was going to number one. But now this free agency thing, 932 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: you know, mister Tepper has just said, Okay, let's go. 933 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: Let's surround this guy with some playmakers. Miles Sanders, right, 934 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: DJ Chark, Adam Feeling, you know, Hayden Hurst. Right, Let's 935 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: get some playmakers. So he is, so is the is 936 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: the owner? Is he like super involved and like, hey 937 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 1: I want this guy, want that guy. No, he's uh, 938 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: he's has his you know, he's looking and hearing everything. Okay, 939 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's obviously brilliant guy and brilliant enough 940 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: to know, hey, let's Scott and I handle that. But 941 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: he's involved in it, you know, he wants to know 942 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 1: um and in particular, I think he's involved in all 943 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: the numbers and the cap and the contracts and how 944 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: everything's set up. I think he has his hands on 945 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 1: all that. So you you know, we're talking earlier about 946 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: your your your coaching staff. You got it. You got 947 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: a lot of ex players. You got Josh, you got dudes, 948 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: got dan'elow on, Josh mccolln. Let's put a name on it. 949 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh not everybody just knows John you right, he played 950 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: eighteen years. We should he was. He was one of 951 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: my teammates. I was with him, he was with me 952 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,479 Speaker 1: in Chicago. I was with his brother Luke in New Orleans. 953 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: So I know Josh very well. But you're your coaching staff. 954 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: It has a lot of former players in it, Like, 955 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: tell me what that process was like to hire those 956 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 1: specific guys. Yeah, I mean, Deuce was the first guy 957 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: I called, because you know, the first one on staff. Yeah, 958 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: he was. You know, we were together in Philadelphia, and 959 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: I just know, you know, I'm mister even kill Listen, 960 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a yeller and screamer. Everybody knows that I'm 961 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of even killed. Keep you know, poised, you know 962 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: their intensity and all that, But I need Deuce's fire 963 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: and brimstone. He brings the fire and brimstone, you know, 964 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: so um and then brilliant offensive. You know, he's a 965 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: brilliant offensive mind. But really has helped me when we 966 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: were in Philadelphia in the run game. His perspective on 967 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: some of the stuffs in the run game was really good. 968 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: And in the protection world, which you know you have 969 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: to be great at um. But overall, I just wanted 970 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: to blend right. I liked the former player thing. Obviously. 971 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: I think there's advantages to being a former player, but 972 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: I also think there's advantages to the coaches who have 973 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: been coaching since they've been twenty you know what I mean. 974 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: They bring a certain football acumen that former player who 975 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: played for these guys been coaching ball all those years 976 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: that we were playing, you know what I mean. So 977 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: there's a certain advantage that so get the blend of 978 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: that old young get the whole thing. I just liked 979 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: it when he yelled so much, like he gonna yell 980 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: and give you everything to him. Well, it was funny 981 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: because when you saw NFL Hard Knocks, it really put 982 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: like I really shine the light on that whole Detroit 983 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: staff and the staff with the stars and so we 984 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: could talk about the players, but nobody cared that we 985 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: were rooted. Everybody was rooting for that staff, and Deuce 986 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 1: really came out the bucks. I didn't realize how fire 987 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: he was until that whole deal. Him and Aaron. I 988 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: was like, they was my two favorite people on the show. 989 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: It was really good. Man ag Okay, Frank, so we 990 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: well coach, right, sorry, no, you're good, Thank you please. 991 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: It's hard for me. Yeah, it's still coach, even though 992 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 1: you're older and we're kind. Yeah, I still say coach too. 993 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: All right. Uh. They want me to ask you about 994 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: your Mount Rushmore and I want to get to that. 995 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: But I got to know this because you burst on 996 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: my scene and I became a fan of yours when 997 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: I was a young man, when you led the Buffalo 998 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: Bills back with this big comeback in the playoffs, like 999 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: that is the greatest comeback. That is who Frank Wright 1000 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: was known for for the longest time. And now you're 1001 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: the head coach. How has that been this transition of like, 1002 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: all right, this is what I'm known for, this backup 1003 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: that was the Macklin comeback forever, and now the head 1004 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: coach that's going to go and lead this program in 1005 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: this organization to hopefully win in Super Bowls. Yeah, I mean, 1006 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a great Uh. I think it's a 1007 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 1: great background to step into this position. You know, because 1008 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 1: I knew, right I was a part of that team. 1009 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: I was a backup quarterback, right, you know, I was 1010 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: just a back. I was a backup guy, right. So um, 1011 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: and I know that when you have a comeback like that, 1012 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 1: it ain't one guy, it's whole team. Right. So now 1013 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: as the head coach, that's really what I want to accentuate, right, 1014 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, listen, we know we talk about the 1015 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: coaching staffs and how good our coaching staff is in 1016 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: the Detroit, but you guys know, more than anything, this 1017 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: is a players game. It's a players game. I always 1018 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: tell the coaches. I mean, I always tell the coaches 1019 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: it's it's like ten to twenty percent coaching and it's 1020 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: eighty or ninety percent players making plays. But we got 1021 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: to put those guys in the best position. And so 1022 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, I just think that background for me. But 1023 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: you got to put all these guys together, coaches and players, 1024 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: and it's got to be a team. I mean, it's 1025 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: it's got to be all about the team. And I 1026 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: think I've witnessed that and experienced that with some of 1027 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: the teams I've been with. All Right, now your mount 1028 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: rushmore of influence on your life? Get four? All right? 1029 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: Who are those? Who are those four that are up 1030 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: there on that hill? Okay, well you know obviously you 1031 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: know have to start, uh you know with my mom 1032 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: and dad. I'm putting those together. I'm cheating, so okay 1033 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: we can you know. Um, but you know, in particular, 1034 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is football related. Um, and so you're coaching. No, 1035 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: it didn't have to be. It's just what made you 1036 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: you today. These four people made me me perfect. Okay, 1037 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: So it starts there up one and um and I 1038 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: and I do think I do think, uh, the influence 1039 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: a had of me that I'm a blend to the 1040 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: two of them. As a coach man, I just idolized 1041 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: my dad. You know, he was a stud man. He 1042 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: was he was a stud player. He was a stud coach. Um. 1043 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: He was a winner, and you know he was the 1044 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: he's a man's man. He'd like played with no face mask, 1045 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: broke is. You know, he's just a tough love dude. 1046 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: Like I don't cuss very much or almost not at all, 1047 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: but like I want to say, when he was a 1048 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: tough man, he was tough dude. He was a tough 1049 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: Yes he was. And this game is about toughness, right, 1050 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: So I just feel like that he put that in 1051 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: my soul, right, he put out of my soul. Um. 1052 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: As far as coaches, the two coaches, uh, you know 1053 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: it's got to be the two other people would be 1054 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: uh Marv Levy, right, so played for Marvel, you know 1055 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: head coach. Um. You know, just an incredible person, like 1056 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: he knew how to push every button. He was cerebral, 1057 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: but he was just connected with players. He was an 1058 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: older man, but yet he had a way to connect 1059 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: with everybody. Of great highlight films, just the NFL films, 1060 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: It was just watching him talking, watching him, just watching 1061 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: him talking say things on the sidelines, great highlights. I've 1062 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: had a chance to meet him twice. I've never met him. Yeah, 1063 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 1: I was like, man, well he's from from from scott 1064 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: you know, it was in Chicago for a long time. 1065 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: So um. But him and then kind of his partner 1066 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: in crime, you know, Bill Paulian who was the GM, um. 1067 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: And then you know, he was the guy drafted me. 1068 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: He was the guy when we went to Caroline, when 1069 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: when he went to Carolina as the GM. You know, 1070 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: he signed me as a free agent to be the 1071 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: first quarterback in Panthers history. I mean just for a 1072 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: couple of games until Carry Collins would take over. He 1073 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: was a fifth pick in the draft. You didn't even 1074 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: have to say that, but we'll take that on. Yeah. 1075 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: But Bill, everywhere I've been in my football career, Bill 1076 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: Pauline's stamp is on it. Right. He's been like a 1077 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: football father to me in many respects. So that's three. 1078 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: And then of course you made me today as my wife. 1079 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: You know, um, you know my wife, we been married 1080 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 1: thirty six years. Um. You know, you go this journey 1081 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: of the NFL, it's crazy journey right, there's high highs, 1082 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: there's low loads. You got to have a center, you know, 1083 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: you got to be centered in on things. So you know, 1084 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: our relationship has been a real foundation for me of 1085 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: strength and peace. That's a that's awesome and only that 1086 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 1: the woman can dress like I tell you. For those 1087 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: that didn't see it, go back out and watch the 1088 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: press conference. It was beautiful. The family was beautiful. Thank you. 1089 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: So here's my last question for you, Frank, what was 1090 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: your co coach? Sorry and Peanut kind of already talked 1091 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: about this as the head coach, but I want to 1092 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: know you're welcome to the NFL moment as a player 1093 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 1: as well. Like mine was my rookie year in training 1094 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: camp where I looked up one of the injured guys. 1095 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: He had shades on his underneath his helmet. While riding 1096 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: in my bicycle, I was like, man, this is like 1097 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: this is the league, Like this guy's big time. I 1098 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: want you to tell me what it was like in 1099 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: the in the eighties, Like in the eighties, okay, okay, 1100 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: when football was real and I'm gonna this is really 1101 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: you guys know this when you see the old film, 1102 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: but like when football was real, when we came into 1103 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: a halftime. We came in a halftime of our very 1104 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: first game in the NFL, and uh, I'm not going 1105 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: to mention any names because not that it matters, but 1106 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: I came in. One of my teammates they just lit 1107 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: up a cigarettette. It's smoking a cigarette at halftime, and 1108 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, welcome to the NFL. You know. But 1109 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: one other quick one if I could just you know, 1110 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: for me, the real first moment, like welcome to the NFL. 1111 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: My very first preseason game was against Chicago and Walter Payton, 1112 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm on the field warming up and 1113 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: nervous Walter Payton and this is a guy that I idolized. 1114 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I couldn't believe it. I was 1115 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: on the same field as Walter Payton. I was incredible. 1116 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: That's that's awesome. Yeah, we always have that man. That's 1117 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Thank you so much. Frank's all right. Exciting 1118 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: times ahead for Carolina Panthers, obviously with Frank fright at 1119 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: the hell and really exciting news. Just you know, now 1120 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: that they have the first overall pick, I think I 1121 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: know what They're gonna pick that quarterback but that's up 1122 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: to them. What do you think, you know, I think 1123 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna do something good. We already know what they're 1124 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna do. They're gonna pick a quarterback, so let's let's 1125 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: let's just lay it out for him to play it out. 1126 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. I'm Peanut Tillman. That's my guy, 1127 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: Roman Harper. We appreciate y'all. Thanks for listening.