1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, it's your boy, Jason McIntyre Straight Fire 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: for Wednesday June, and boy, do we have a podcast 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: for you if you like the NBA Smash that Subscribe button. 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: As my young son says, yes, he started watching some 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: YouTube clips and he's walking around the house saying, smash 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: that like button, Dad, And I'm always cracking up, so 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I thought I'd incorporate smash that Subscribe button. New listeners. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Not only are we gonna talk about 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: the wild and wacky NBA playoffs, Janice the latest star 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: to get injured. Trey Young didn't play last night and 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: the Hawks rolled the Bucks, but Janice going down as 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the bigger news. We'll talk about that. But you guys 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: are gonna love today's guest. His name is Cuffs, the legend. 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: He's been before. One of the most popular NBA guests 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: we've had. We've had almost everybody in the NBA orbit. 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: I still have not gotten Woes on the pod yet. 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: We do go back. We're texting this week. I'm working 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: on it, folks. Uh. It's ESPN started to crack down 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: on who they let come on the podcast. I will 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: just say that however we need to, but before we 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: get to the Hawks, I just need to pump up 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: my main man, Cuffs. First of all, we like on 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: this show and in life, I like to buy value stocks, 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: buy them low before they pop, right, you'd like to 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: buy low, sell high. I told you guys about Cuffs 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the legend a while back. He's been out there, you know, 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in his Instagram mentions. Uh, he's friendly with 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Lebron He he's gotten in with the NBA players. I'm 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: just telling you guys, you want to buy an early 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: NBA stock. This guy is funny, he's interesting, he's plugged in. 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: You've got to kind of read between the lines as 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: to what he's saying. On some stuff talk Brad Beal, 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, the Damian Lillard situation in Portland, Um Paul George, Luca, 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: don Che, Donovan Mitchell. I don't want to go to overboard, 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: but keep an eye on Donovan Mitchell in Utah while 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: he's in Utah. I'll just say that. We'll get to 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: all that later, but I need to start the pod today. 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: You know, oftentimes in sports, we need to seek clarity. 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: As to what the hell is happening, And in the 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs usually it's pretty clear. The best teams with 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: the best stars usually cut through. Not a ton of 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: surprises in getting to the NBA finals. Occasionally, yeah, you'll 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: have a Portland's breakthrough to the Western Conference finals, and yes, 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta broke through to the Eastern Conference finals way ahead 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: of schedule. And occasionally have wacky stuff in the playoffs, 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: but usually by the time of the finals, you've got 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the best two teams standing or at least two of 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: the best three teams. Last year, you know, the Miami 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Heat took down Jane in the Bucks were there's a 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise entrant, although they were built for 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the bubble Lakers. Obviously Lebron. I mean, Lebron went to 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: the finals eight years in a row. Okay, whether it 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: was Miami, um, you know there was Clevel and you know, 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: getting back to the Lakers. He's a healthy he's in 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: the finals. I mean, we are used to standard operating 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: procedure of the stars breaking through, and occasionally stars will 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: have a tough time, but there's five or six stars 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: and they usually get to the finals. Folks. I wonder 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: if we need to stop expecting and just start appreciating. 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: That ain't happening this year. Let's just appreciate the guys 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: we've got, Like bug don Bugdanovich, Oh what I mean? 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: So Trey Young is ruled out yesterday? Okay, and everybody 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: says the Bucks are gonna win. I I had the Bucks, 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: I had the under the under hit the Bucks did not. 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: And what happens Mike Budenholzer pulling his patented Oh, I 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: get my team fired up. I'm clueless. I'm downtown in 69 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: the first quarter, I'm down fifteen in the second, I'm 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: down twenty in the third. I mean, like, I don't 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: I just don't know how Bucks brass and look Budenholder 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: in the eye. After a performance like this, you're up 73 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: to one, You've got a chance to step their throat 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: and go back and close it out. In Milwaukee, the 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Hawks are without their best player. They started Loo Chicken 76 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Wings Williams, a point guard. The Clippers barely played him 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: in the bubble and banished him. They got him out 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: of town, and the Bucks just could get nothing going 79 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: at either end, and they got run over But the 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: big news is, of course, Yannie goes down and it 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: looked real scary, looked like he hyper extended it, maybe worse. 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: He was down for a while, didn't look like he 83 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: could walk off. Then you could see him fighting and saying, no, 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: I want to walk off. He comes back to the bench, 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: takes a look at the scoreboard. I think they're out 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: like twenty four. The second Honest goes out. I think 87 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: it was a twelve two Hawks run, and that's a wrap. 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Dan Janice goes back to the dressing room, and now 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: everybody just waits for the news from Woad about the 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Honest status. Is he getting in it? What does the 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: m R? I say we should know sometime today. But 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: the bottom line is the Bucks should not have been 93 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: in the position where they were down ten, down fifteen 94 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: with the Honest on the court, folks, I just need 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: to remind everybody we even talked about this yesterday. The 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Bucks had been healthy. What had the Hawks been doing 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: getting nothing from their second best player, bogg Don bugg doon? 98 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: If it's just status crazy Bogdanovitch last night six of 99 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: fourteen on threes, unbelievable performance. Where has this been well? 100 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: He's been banged up last six games. He made five 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: three pointers total early part of this series and the 102 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: end of the sixer series. Last six games Bogdanovich five 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: six from deep last night, six or fourteen? Where was 104 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: the defense? I could sit here and waste my time 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: just bashing the hell out of Buddenholzer. But Chris Middleton 106 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: another egg of a performance. I was so glad I 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't bet on this guy. And it's so funny these 108 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs. You just flip flop after every game. Remember 109 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: we gotta run through Middleton. Oh my gosh, she's so good. 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: The Hawks are better when they run through Middleton. Oh 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: for seven on threes, sixteen points, six and seventeen shooting, 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: four turnovers. Drew Holiday starting to come back to reality 113 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: after first couple a couple of good games, six and 114 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: seventeen shooting the bench was laughable. Bobby Portis who people 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: want to talk up as like a six man candidate 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: this year. I mean, come on, get out of here. 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: This this team is ah what a nightmare. And of course, 118 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: the one Hawks player I bet on, I said, I 119 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: think John Collins. This was before Trey was ruled out. 120 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: I bet on John Collins over points. I said, listen, 121 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna step up, it's gonna be one of 122 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: their veterans who knows how to get buckets. I'm betting 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: on John Collins. And of course he did nothing. Lou 124 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Williams Uh was really good. Twenty one points and the 125 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Hawks win. And now we wait free honest, and folks, 126 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: if you honest is out for the rest of the 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: series and Trey Young is able to return, the Hawks 128 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: are going to the NBA Finals. And I listen, I 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: don't want to call these defraudulent NBA playoffs, but let's 130 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: just let's reality sink in for a minute. The Suns 131 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: were supposed to close out the Clips on Monday night. 132 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: They're at home, they come out lay colossal leg and 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: now they got to go to l A for Game 134 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: six tonight. The Bucks were supposed to put their foot 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: on the throat of the Hawks and go up three 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: one and go back and close it down in Milwaukee. 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: They vomit all over themselves in the first half, going 138 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: a halftime down thirteen, and then Janice might have shredded 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: his knee. I don't know. It did not look good. 140 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful your honest is able to return. I hope 141 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: I did not put the injury hex on the Bucks, 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: as some of you guys claimed on social media last night, 143 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: because I've been talking about how healthy the Bucks have been. 144 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Can you trust anybody left in these NBA playoffs? But 145 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: the the answer is no. I'm sorry, you cannot trust 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers. Anytime you expect the Clippers to show up, 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: they poop all over themselves. I am betting on the 148 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns tonight to close out the series in l A. 149 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's back on the Clippers, everybody's on the Sun's last game. 150 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm riding the Suns again. Sons will win tonight. 151 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Everybody thought the Bucks had this and the Hawks just 152 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: put a beat down on and frankly, I don't know 153 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: if the Bucks closed them out if your honest is 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, really, I I don't know what is the 155 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: option without Janice. I mean you're looking at the front 156 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: line of Brook Lopez and p J Tucker. I mean 157 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: you're rolling with Pat Connaughton. Brent Forbes has been on 158 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: a milk carton since that opening round series against the Heat. 159 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: The Bucks are just not a very good team without Janice. 160 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: Uh in Middleton and holiday get you home. Sure as 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: ship could not do it in game four, so I 162 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: have little faith at all in the Bucks. I do 163 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: think the sun's closed it out tonight. But listen, hey ghastly. Anyways, 164 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: without further ado, let's get to our guests. You know 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: him as Cuffs the Legend. Now, I do want to 166 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: say we recorded this on Tuesday before Hawks Bucks, so 167 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: we did not get into Janice, did not get too 168 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: much into Tray Young. He referred to last night a lot. 169 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, we recorded this Tuesday, UM, and he was 170 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: referring to the Paul George game. We talked about that. 171 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I think you guys will like this, UM. So, without 172 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,119 Speaker 1: further ado, here is Cuffs the Legend on the NBA offseason, 173 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: which looks like, folks, it's going to be complete and 174 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: utter madness. Jason likes to think he knows everything when 175 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I know what sports fans want, 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 177 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 178 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into 179 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: straight fire. I would say back by popular demand, because 180 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: we did have him on or a couple of months back, 181 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and the reaction was enormous. A lot of people listening 182 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: to what he has to say. He's famous on the internet. Uh, 183 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: he's got Kevin Durant and his mentions on the I 184 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: g Uh he is Cuffs the legend. Uh real name 185 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: Brandon what. We won't mention his last name now, but 186 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Cuff is good to have you back, man, man, I'm 187 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: glad to be back. Jason glad to be back. Yeah. Yeah, 188 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, we like to get in early and buy 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: stock Elian people, and obviously we we like the cut 190 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: of your jib and uh so we wanted to have 191 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: you back. NBA playoffs in full swing. Let's start with 192 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers if you don't mind, um, Paul George go, man. 193 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: Paul George is the most fascinating. It's like the Dose 194 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Seki's commercial. He's the most interesting man in the world 195 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: right now. Like he really is the most interesting basketball player. 196 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this, Like how he can 197 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: go from I mean it's so crazy where Like last 198 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: night was one of the greatest performances we've ever seen 199 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: in that situation back against the Wall elimination game. He 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: is forty one, you know, on the road. But like 201 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned on Twitter last night, the pressure is right 202 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: back on him within twenty four hours to do it again. 203 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: And I just feel like he kind of dug itself 204 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: a whole a couple of years ago when he gave 205 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: himself the nickname, as we all know, playoff p But 206 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: I mean to keep it real with you, Jason is 207 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: starting to look like he might he might be telling 208 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: us the truth. He might not. He might be playoff 209 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: in spurts in spurts. See, that's the thing. He's not consistent. 210 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: And I want to go back to when he was 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: a pacer and I'll never forget that the series he 212 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: went toe to toe with Lebron when Lebron was on 213 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: the heatles and cuffs. You remember that Paul George was 214 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: like ascending it like five. He exceeded all expectations coming 215 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: out of what Freds knew. It was like a late 216 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: lottery pick. And he was at the time, you know, 217 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: I thought he was the top ten player in the league. 218 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean skill wise, if we just talked about it, 219 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: if we just talk about skill wise and his toolbox offensively, 220 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean I put him in the same echelon with 221 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: with Kevin Duram and he's a slight like slightly below 222 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. But he can do anything on the basketball court. 223 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean he can get to his spots, he got 224 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: the mid range game. He can handle the ball really well. 225 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean his chain of direction is is he lead? Uh? 226 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: He could score from all three ways and and he's 227 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: one of the most talented offensive players we've seen in 228 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: the league. I like you said, I think it's all mental. 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing I tell with kids that 230 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: I trained in our coach, like the game is. If 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: you had to quantified, man, I would say basketball is, 232 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: it's probably seventy seventy percent mental. I'm saying for the guys, 233 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: they already have the physical tools, Like it's so it's 234 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: so much of a mental game, man. And I just 235 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes he has he has he overthinks the game, 236 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: like he overthinks certain situations, He overthinks certain moments. And 237 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I actually think Paul George because I actually seen him 238 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: at the hotel at the All Star Game, he's kind 239 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: of like a real laid back reserve dude man um 240 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: And I think he's kind of a shot guy. His personality. 241 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: I think he's more of an introverted shot guy, and 242 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: I think that sometimes come back to buy him in 243 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: certain pressure moments. But I found myself rooting for Paul George, man, 244 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: because he's been getting all the standard for years now, 245 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: everybody making jokes on Twitter everything. Let's try to get 246 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: to the root of it, besides giving him the self 247 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 1: the nickname. Was it forcing his way out of Indiana? 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: Was it, you know, the cigars with Russell Westbrook after 249 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: he said no to the Lakers and kind of stayed 250 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: in Okay? See um? And that was it leaving to 251 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: play with Kawai Leonard? Was it hitting the side of 252 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: the backboard in the bubble? And I got one more 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: question on that, Like you said, the mental aspect, everybody 254 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: wanted to give Kevin Love a pass when he said 255 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: man mentally, you know, I've got these problems and issues 256 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and I'm overthinking stuff and anxiety whatever. Everybody gave him 257 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: a pass. And now Paul George says the same thing 258 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: in the bubble and it's like, oh, he's soft, He's 259 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: not built for it. What is that exactly? That's a 260 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: good that's a good assessment, man, Because Kevin Love did 261 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: come out and say that about his mental health issues, 262 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: and Paul George blatantly came out in the bubble like 263 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: you said, and said, yo, bro, I'm dealing with the demons. 264 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm fighting demons. And it's like it's the same exact 265 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: But I feel like the expectations of Paul Georgia so high. 266 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: And I said this on Twitter recently. Let I think 267 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: sometimes we criticize Paul George because we see how talented 268 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: he really is, like we see what he can be, like, 269 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: we see him as like I said, he's so skilled, 270 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: like he showed us last night that it's only a 271 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: handful of players in the whole world that could do 272 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: what he did last like you know, like that type 273 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: of performance in that situation. But it's like, like you said, 274 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: the inconsistency part is what we always look at, like damn, 275 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: why can't he just do this on a consistent night 276 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: in night out basis because because if you ask me 277 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: right now, Paul George is he's a legit number one, 278 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: like he's really he's really silence a lot of critics 279 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: in this playoff run. This is one of the best 280 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: playoff runs, regardless of outcome, like he said, regardless of outcome, 281 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, regardless of what goes down in the next 282 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: two games, I feel like Paul George has really uh, 283 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: he's really saved his face in a lot of regards. Man, 284 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: as far as his legacy is there an element of 285 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: house money here, Hey, man, every time we're down O 286 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: two against Dallas, we're down O two against Utah, you know, uh, 287 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: we're down three one against Like I didn't. I didn't 288 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: give Tyler enough respect. Maybe I've always been a Paul 289 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: George guy. I you know, you bashed him when he's 290 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: awful and he mrs free throws. That's fine, happens everybody. 291 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: But how much of this is Paul George and how 292 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: much is Tyler? Because you know, cuffs, I haven't been 293 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: the biggest Taylo proponent. I'm sure you're gonna come after me. 294 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: I did have an NBA assistant coach a listen, Jay, 295 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: you're being too hard on Tyler. He texted me that, 296 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, maybe it's a little harsh. Um. 297 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Man, He's had Lebron and Kauai and 298 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: now what he's done Um with Kauai, gone, with Ibaka, 299 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: gone Zuba. I was impressed last night, Man, elimination game. 300 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: Tylu is a different animal man elimination gang. I think 301 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: he's Tina too right to an elimination game Tenna too, Yes, 302 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: sir rious, so you tena too, and elimination games. I 303 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of that speaks volumes of the personality 304 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: of Taylu more than the actual X and thse and 305 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: and just drawing up plays, because he is pretty good 306 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: out of time out as far as his play calling 307 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I mean even during the course of 308 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: the game, like Paul George he went, I mean Tyler 309 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: went to his own last night. I think he went 310 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: to his own last night and they kind of stifled 311 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: his sons a little bit. Yeah, Chris, Chris, Paul could 312 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: not get his his favorite shot, no elbow jumper. He 313 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: just couldn't do anything. So I think I think Tyler 314 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit for just being a resilient 315 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: coach because a lot of times you can see your 316 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: coach panic at any level of basketball. I don't care 317 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: for his middle school, high school, college pro. You can 318 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: see a good player or certain players on the team 319 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: can sense when their coaches panicking, just like when shaq 320 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Uh when Shack dubbed standing Gunny the Master of Panic 321 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years back. Like there's certain guys where 322 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: you can kind of see it. You can kind of 323 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: see him on the sideline and Frank Vogel, I mean, 324 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: not that, not that this credit Frank Vogel, but Frank 325 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: Bogle kind of shows that body language sometimes even if 326 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: these playoffs where it's like, man, I have no idea 327 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: what's going on over here, but ty Lou has that 328 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: poker face, and I think his team fees off of 329 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: that energy. And those guys never quit, man, they always battle. 330 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: So I think this series is more than likely going 331 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: seven games. Jason, all right, well, let me ask you 332 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: about Frank Vogel. H let me say this. Let me 333 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: say okay, let me say this. In my heart, I 334 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna go seven just because the way 335 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: it's looking. But I'm also thinking, man, like the basketball 336 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: guys are very petty. They're very petty. So you gotta 337 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: look at this game last night, like everything went wrong 338 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: for the Sons last night. They could possibly go wrong, 339 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: Like they just played up a clunky game. It was 340 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: ugly with DeAndre Ayton did not show up. He didn't 341 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: show up at all, like he looked like he looked 342 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: like Yanka dar last night arrest he was what a yanker? 343 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: I haven't heard of ka reference in a while. Man, 344 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: he was terrible last night. I mean, if you look 345 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: at the size advantage that he had, he should have 346 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: really had twenty and twenty ast night. No no Zoo 347 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: back in their Clippers. But I mean, I think it's 348 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I think it can be a 349 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: situation where the basketball guys have set us up Jason 350 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: for Chris Paul to eliminate the Clippers on their home floor. 351 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: In statements, I think we might get. I hope that's 352 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: what we get because I'm rooting for Chris Paul. You know, 353 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: the North Carolinian, the connection. But yeah, oh man, it's 354 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot of drama. Now it's spicy, it's real spicy. Now, 355 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: speaking spicy, I should add that Paul George in Game 356 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: four at home was five for twenty one of nine 357 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: on threes, uh and was all around awful. But listen, 358 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hammer. I know that could easily happened 359 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: in the next game. But I want to ask about 360 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: Vogel because you know, listen, you've made no secret Obviously 361 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: you're a Lebron guy, and Lebron by all accounts, wanted Tyler. Yes, right, 362 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: he wanted Tyler. What happened? What do you know about 363 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: what happened that hasn't been reported? Man, I can't really 364 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: speak on a certain certain things that happened with the 365 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Lakers coach in search that year, But I really think 366 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: that it wasn't just a Lebron situation where Lebron wanted 367 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: his guy that that he's been in the foxhold with. 368 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: He's won the championship, in my opinion, the greatest championship 369 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: we've ever seen that three one come back against sevent 370 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: three and nine and they live warriors. But I just 371 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: think Tyler was so like his presence would have been 372 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: perfect for Anthony Davis and Lebron and those other guys. 373 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: Just I just feel like it's a it's a it's 374 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: a certain connection certain guys have with certain coaches you 375 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: can't explain, like like we've seen him with Monty Williams 376 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: right now with their young Phoenix team with Chris Paul. 377 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: It's like certain it's just a certain wave length guys 378 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: are on and it's a chemistry with their coach. You 379 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: can't explain, man, and that that's beautiful at all levels. 380 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: But like, I don't think Vogel is a bad coach 381 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: at all. I mean they won a championship, you know, 382 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: last year. But sometimes you can win a championship despite 383 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: your coach. And I think a lot of fans don't 384 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: realize that, Like you can away. Okay, let's back up. 385 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: So Tyler wins the titles beating the seventy three wind Warriors, right, 386 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: did come back from three one. Then the Calves fire 387 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: him the next year because you know, six games in 388 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we're tanking. Tyler's like, fine, get me 389 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: out of here. How come no other team in the 390 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: league jumped at Tyler and he had no other offers 391 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: other than the Lakers, which had Lebron at that point. 392 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: Because to answer that question, Man, to be quite frankly 393 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: honest with you, a lot of these front office people 394 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: do not understand basketball, bro. Like they have suits. So 395 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: they got the Manti Sus song, they got. They sit 396 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: in the boardroom. They don't really watch. They don't really 397 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: watch certain intricate details when it whether coaching or strategy, 398 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Like they don't see certain things. Man, you see it 399 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: all the time with these retrad coaches that keep getting 400 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: these same jobs, like they get fired from this job 401 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and they have a like Tyler, I don't thank you. 402 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was a racial theme, 403 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: because we do have a dispirit, no, uh dispirit, like 404 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: we have a bad situation right now where the amount 405 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: of African American coaches in the league. Man, but I 406 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: mean that guy with his pedigree that you would think 407 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: there's no way in the world he would be an 408 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: assistant coach on Doc River staff. I mean he's already 409 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: done that before, you know what I'm saying. So like 410 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: that was that. So everybody's asking me, why are you? 411 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: Why are you so down on tight And you know, 412 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: maybe this was a bit harsh to me, but I 413 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: was like, listen, I know he won the title with Lebron, 414 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: but Cuffs like no other team. I mean, there was 415 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: at least I'm gonna guess ten teams that had new coaches, 416 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: and they could have had gone after Tyler, and I 417 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: don't remember any even going after him. So and you 418 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: you could be right about the front office stuff. Look 419 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: at the Utah Jazz. They fire their their guy this week. 420 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: Dennis Lindsay. Um, and that's like an underreported story. Apparently 421 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: you know they're worried about Donovan Mitchell. But I don't 422 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: know how plugged in you are ahead, I've heard about that. 423 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: But the NBA is also just like other industries in 424 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: this world of music then as the NBA is no 425 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: difference as far it's a country club aspect to every 426 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: every conglomerate, Like the NBA is no dear for him. Man. 427 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: So we see we see Flip Sounders. I think it 428 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: was a Flip Sounder's son that was the coach for 429 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: the Wolves. They gave him a job. But you see 430 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: how quick that was over. Like then we see the 431 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: next we see Lloyd Pierce, who I consider it's one 432 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: of my good friends. Um, a guy look up to, 433 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: a mentor. But Lloyd Pierce, he wasn't really giving a 434 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: fair shake with the Hawks. I mean, they had injuries, 435 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: they had all type of situations going on within that 436 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: team that a lot of people don't know about. But 437 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: can you speak about the Tray young stuff, because you know, 438 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: if you don't get along with the star in the league, 439 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: we know you're in trouble. Yeah, It's like it's kind 440 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: of like going back to Doug Collins and Michael Jordan, 441 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: like coach is gonna bump heads, but they start players sometimes. 442 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: But I feel like every situation is different and sometimes 443 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: depending on your race, you know, you might get a 444 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: shorter leach. I mean, just keep it real with you, 445 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: Like some black coaches get a shorter leach. And we've 446 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: seen that for a long time, just like we've seen 447 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter for the last two years, where you know, 448 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: if a black coach gets fired, is they just say 449 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: he's fired most time. But if the white coach gets 450 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: fired as they mutually parted as that's that's a that's 451 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: a that's a crazy thing to me, and a lot 452 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: of people starting to notice that. But I mean, I 453 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: think Tyler man like his resume is solidified, um I 454 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: just like he's he has more respect in the locker 455 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: room than a lot of coaches that have a better 456 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: resume than him. To be honest, like, I feel like 457 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: players respect tylu more than more than Doc Rivers, as 458 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: we can see by how the Clippers are are responding 459 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: to them like that. It's the same, it's the same, 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: it's the same roster pretty much. I mean, he got 461 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: a couple of young guys Terence Man, Reggie Jackson, who 462 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: was looking like like he want to max contract your guy, Yeah, 463 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: franchise player Reggie who I want to I want to 464 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: stay on the coaches, but I have to because you 465 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: mentioned Reggie Jackson. If you are the Knicks or the 466 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: Heat and you need a point guard, are you going 467 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: after Lonzo Bawler? Reggie Jackson Man, Reggie Jackson has made 468 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: himself a lot of money and um, because I remember 469 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: back when Lebron's first year in Miami, I think it 470 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: was two thousand and eleven when they had to draft 471 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: and pat Riley really wanted uh Reddy Jackson coming out 472 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: of Boston College, Like he was really high on Ready Jackson. Um. 473 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma City picked him twenty fourth that year, 474 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: a couple of picks ahead of Miami, so he didn't 475 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: get the fall the to Miami. But I think pat 476 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: Rowley is still enamored by Ready Jackson and that could 477 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: be a good quality fit because Dragon is getting older 478 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think that Heat really have a lot 479 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: of confidence in Kendred nothing like they did a year ago. 480 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: So I think Reggie Jackson has a lot of leverage 481 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: and free agency. Man like Reggie Jackson and Cameron Paine 482 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: are two of the most beautiful stories I've seen in 483 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: this playoff. Like like it's like redemption story because Reggie 484 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Jackson to listen, Jackson, you know, as I know you're 485 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: a basketball peers. Like two or three weeks ago, Reggie 486 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Jackson was still getting slander like he's always been for years, 487 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Like he's totally reridden his hols. Well, this is a 488 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: guy remember in Okay, See, Reggie Jackson basically was like 489 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: a butting heads with Westbrook, saying listen, I should be 490 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: playing over Westbrook. And eventually they got sick of it. 491 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: They got him out of town. They're like, go to Detroit. 492 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: And then he goes to Detroit, He's like, this should 493 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: be my team. They give him all the money and 494 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: then next thing you know, they buy him out a 495 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: couple of years later, Like and I'm with you, Like 496 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I did a podcast on the redemption of Reggie Jackson 497 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: simply because in life, a lot of people got to 498 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: go through this, like there are gonna be tough times. 499 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson came out, like you said, first round pick, 500 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the guy, and maybe now he's 501 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: all grown up at what years old? So do you 502 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: think the Clippers are going to give Reggie Jackson that 503 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: bag and bring them back to l A and then 504 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: they can just like they can afford him. But what 505 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: Leonard walks and goes to Portland though, oh all right, 506 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: wait wait, wait time you need to back Portland. Okay, Portland, 507 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: you're backed up? Kawhi Leonard walking going to Portland. Yeah, 508 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna go to Portland, I'm sure and we got listen, 509 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: we got Ben Simmons to get to um, Dave Lillard, 510 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal, but okay, let's go to Portland. This whole 511 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups hiring thing is mind blowing to me. And 512 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: you know, the Portland fans are outraged because of some 513 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: alleged sexual assault that might have happened twenty three years ago. Um, 514 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: and now they're pinning it on Damian Lillard and they're 515 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: angry at him and Dame it's like throwing his hands 516 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: up like I'm done with you people. I can't handle this. 517 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: You know, Chauncey Billups is supposed to be that TAILU 518 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: type guy right where he gets along with the players. 519 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: What what do you see happening with Dame Lillard in Portland. 520 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if I if I had one wish, it 521 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: would be Damian literally go to the Lakers and play 522 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: with Lebron and a d like I would probably sacrifice 523 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: from my members. I'll trade in one of my family 524 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: members right now to get Dame on the Lakers. But 525 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: I know that's a long shot. But Dame, man, I 526 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: think he's He's very loyal. That's one thing I can 527 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: say about Dame. Like I've had a few conversations with Dame. 528 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: You following me on Twitter for a long time. Damian 529 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Lillard is very loyal. But my only fear with Damian 530 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: literally is I hope he doesn't become too loyal like 531 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett did with Minnesota photos years. That's that's the 532 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: best way I can describe it, Like, I hope his 533 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: loyalty doesn't override the reality out and the press because 534 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna start to feel that pressure because 535 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: we know how talented he is, and it just feels 536 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: like he belongs in these moments, Like he just feels 537 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: like like that moment that Paul George has last night, 538 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: We've seen Damon little to have those moments like in 539 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: the first round, in the first round series, or even 540 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: the second round series. But I want to see Dame 541 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: on the highest stage, in the conference finals, in the finals, 542 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: and just like Chris Paul, Like I'm probably gonna cry 543 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: Chris Paul make it to the final, Broke. I know 544 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: what he's been through. I know, Yeah, you are a 545 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: Chris Paul guy. Yeah, I know what he's been through. Man. 546 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: And it's like the Dame, Like I don't want to 547 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: see Dame waste a lot of his golden years in Portland, 548 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: and like they've done a decent job of putting certain 549 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: guys around him, c J. Him and c J have 550 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: the best chemistry any backcourt. To me, uh nurk. It 551 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: is pretty good on the inside. But I just feel 552 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: like it's like the Portland Trailbladers have always been that 553 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: dish that you bring the Thanksgiving there's always missing, like 554 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: an ingredient, like it's missing something like they always missing 555 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: something like every season. So, um, John, I think he's 556 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: gonna be the right guy for that job. I just 557 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: don't know how long Dame is going to remain patient 558 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: because he's starting to hear the rumblings. Man, When you 559 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: start to hear those whispers from their fans. See, the 560 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: pressure always comes from the fans, bro, because those guys 561 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: those they read a time, why more than anybody. But 562 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: but but that's the thing, cuffs should they like? I 563 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: what's the value in that? Who cares what some of 564 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: these fans think? Who really gives a rip some of 565 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: these uneducated buffoons. You know, these guys have like you know, 566 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: Schilly uh avatars and you know, dogs and all this stuff. Like, 567 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: who cares what these people think? I know Kevin Durant does. 568 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: But if you brought up Kevin Garnett, Kevin Durant does. Yes, 569 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he does. So Kevin Garnett Minnesota. 570 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: I just looked us up. He was a ten time 571 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: All Star and the league MVP. Okay, I don't know 572 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: if Dame has been a ten time All Star and 573 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: he is not one a m VP. Kevin Garnett was 574 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: treated for Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo, Ratliff, 575 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Bassie Telfair and a first round pick. How are you 576 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: kidding me? Why why couldn't Dame go to the Lakers 577 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: for Kuzma, Shrewder and assigning trade th h t and 578 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: any other picks that the Lakers are able to give up. 579 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Man. Was that that much different 580 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: than than the Kevin Garnett It's not different at all. 581 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: So I'm actually hoping it happens, man, so I can 582 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: enjoy this Lakers championship in the middle of the ocean 583 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: next summer. I really hope what you just said, what 584 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: you just said happened. Uh. And I got a love 585 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: for Kuzman, Man, I got love for th h Like 586 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: I love those guys, but they're the only trade asset 587 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: that the Lakers have at this moment. So I feel 588 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: like it's going We've reached We've reached across roads this summer, Man, 589 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: with the Lakers, we reached across roads as far as 590 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: I think, we're gonna see some some explosive moves from 591 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: Robert Lincoln. Man, Lord, would you so Dame is pie 592 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: in the sky but of a pipe drink? CJ. McCollum 593 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: could be had for much less. I don't know how 594 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: many times c J. McCollum has been an All Star, 595 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: but let's be real. He is a good player. He 596 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: fits with Lebron and a d because he can shoot. 597 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I mean c J. McCollum a 598 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: thirty billion dollar guy. I mean this marketplace, he definitely 599 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: is because he's guaranteed twenty one, twenty two points a game, 600 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty three a game, I think. So, I mean he's 601 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: he's on that second tier of star players, like he's 602 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: never made an All Star game, second or third, second, 603 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: third one. It's second or third tier like Jamal Murray is. Probably. 604 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like c J. McCullum is 605 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: right there on that on that on that tier of 606 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: players with Jamal Murray because I mean some nice see 607 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: they can give you thirty five or forty so um, 608 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: I think he would mess pretty well with Lebron and 609 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: a D with his space and he can create his 610 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: own shot. I mean, he can get to any spot. 611 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't play any defense now, he doesn't 612 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: play any defense. And that's one thing that would concern 613 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: me if he came to the Lakers. I just think 614 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: that Lakers need a goal in man, and they just 615 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: need a goal in and it's really yeah, I don't 616 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: think it's really I don't think it's really a situation 617 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: where the Lakers need they don't necessarily need a third 618 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: start man. I don't think any reliable shooters and reliable 619 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: road players. Yeah, and and they were unreliable. You know, 620 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: a big fan, but the dudes unreliable. Fox Sports Radio 621 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 622 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 623 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s 624 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: R to listen live. Let's move to another Laker target, 625 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Bradley Beale, and I will come back to Ben Simmons 626 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: because I think there's a chance of that. I don't 627 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: know if it's a fit, but Bradley Beale has not 628 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: committed to the to the Wizards, they don't have a 629 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: coach as of now. They might be going to Bradley 630 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: bald and saying who can we get to make you 631 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: to stay? Answer is probably nobody. But if Bradley Beale 632 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: says I want out and I want to go to 633 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: the Lakers, he's got one year left before he hits 634 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: free agency. Who can stop him from saying I want 635 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: to go to the Lakers and don't don't trade for 636 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: me Boston or whoever because not signing there. Because Anthony 637 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: Davis did the same damn thing. Why can't Bradley Bill 638 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: do that? And can Lebron get him to do that. Yeah. Yeah, 639 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: A lot of that comes down to your agency and 640 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: what type of agent you have as well, and what 641 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: type of personality the player has, because you know when 642 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: you do that, when you make that demand, you're gonna 643 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: deal with the bad lass. And some players are not 644 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: accustomed to that back lass because they've always been seen 645 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: as like Bradley Bill has always had a pristine image 646 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: in the media as far as everything, like, you've never 647 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: really been viewed as a bad guy or been viewed 648 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: as a villain by any means. Um So if he 649 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: were to come out like tomorrow and say we saw 650 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: a headline tomorrow on our notifications that said Bradley Bill 651 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: has repressed a trade from the Wisness, we would be like, oh, man, Like, 652 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: we didn't really see that coming. Because that guy is 653 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: always being loyal, just like Dame in Portland. He's being loyal. 654 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: But there is another guy that I probably would uh 655 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: sacrifice one of my family members for to be on 656 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: the lake because I'll tell Bradley Bill, I mean, he's 657 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: how on my list if you had to give me 658 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: a top three, he's definitely on the top three of 659 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 1: he's perfect he's perfect for Lebron. Now, now you just 660 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: mentioned the interesting thing about the agent. We've seen some 661 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: guys say I want to demand a trade, I want 662 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: to do this, and they get hated by the idiots 663 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: on social media and some of the newspaper guys and 664 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: those ink stain wretches who cover the league go in 665 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: on the players. But guess what six months later when 666 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: they got a title. How does it feel, Anthony Davis, 667 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: how does it feel? Well? James Harden doesn't know the title, 668 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: but he's happy as a clam in Brooklyn. You know. Um, 669 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: some of these guys, when they get what they want, 670 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: it ends up fine. So if you can deal with 671 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: the short term pain, the long term gain is great. 672 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant going to Golden State then going to Brooklyn, Right, Yeah, 673 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: you're right. So, like I said, I would I think 674 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: that guy is more likely to be a Laker. Out 675 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: of all these superstars that we were mentioneding, like Bradley 676 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: bill Uh Damian Lillard, the guy that I think has 677 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: a I would say a decent chance of being a Laker. Now, 678 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this summer, but I'm staying in the 679 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: next year or so, will be Russell west Room. Oh coughs. 680 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: Come on, you wanta take Russell Westbrook over Ben Simmons? 681 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: Are you joking? What I'm saying this is not like 682 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I want him on the Lakers. I'm 683 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: just saying that's that's that's a possibility. I think with 684 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: his connection to l a like his relationship with Lebron 685 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: a d uh. Those guys are pretty solid. They're pretty cool, man. Um, 686 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Rob Lincoln had a tough job. 687 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: He got the toughest job of any executive. It's offseason 688 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: because that championship window is small for the Lakers right now, 689 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: and they have really got to match the gas and 690 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: rectify the mistakes they made in free agency the last 691 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: couple of years. Not just for you, did they make 692 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: mistakes because up to one of the Suns, everybody and 693 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: their mom thought that series was over. If a d 694 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: doesn't go down, Lakers roll the Sun's right. Maybe for 695 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: one This is what I'll tell people a lot of times. Man, 696 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: you can win an NBA title with a flawed roster, 697 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: like you don't have to have this perfect rocks like 698 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: the Lakers one last year in the bubble, and if 699 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: you really look at the Lakers roster there. Roster had 700 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot of weaknesses on a lot of KCP was 701 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: like their third Yeah, like they had a lot of 702 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: It was a flawed roster and they still pulled it off. 703 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: So just like you're watching this year, I agree, if 704 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers were healthy and Anthony David in the top shape, 705 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't. I don't think any series would 706 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: have went longer than six games against anybody, that's including Brooklyn. 707 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: If the Lakers Denver, Yeah, the Lakers would have been 708 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: fully healthy off season and just had the season that 709 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna have as far as having 710 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: everybody available, I think they would have just they would 711 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: have just blown right through this playoffs. But man, it's 712 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: it's just it's the war of attrition, like what they 713 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: all say. And if we look at this championship we're 714 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: about to have, I think we're more likely gonna get 715 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: the Bucks in the suns, but nobody predicted that. And 716 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: I think that neither one of those teams are the 717 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: best team in the NBA this year. They're the healthiest team. 718 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: So that's that's how it all plays out. This Every 719 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: single season is different, man, and I think this season 720 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: is like the wildest we've ever seen as far as 721 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: God's getting injured, stars the stars. Let me know, I 722 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: need to know your thoughts on Ben Simmons. Who I mean, 723 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: I've I'm team Ben Simmons. I'm a fan. I think 724 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: this is a great BILO opportunity for somebody. Where are 725 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: you on Ben Simmons? Ben Simmons, I'm actually rooting for 726 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. He's another guy. It's getting a lot of 727 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of scrutiny on social media. It's bad. I 728 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: mean it's bad right now for being but I think 729 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: you know he has he has to really get in 730 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: the gym. I don't know if he got to call 731 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: lethal shooter or whoever, but like, like you're killing that girl. 732 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: And this is my thing about it. Like if you're 733 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: if you're on social media every day, man, and you're 734 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: seeing you're the best basketball Like you're the best shooting 735 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: coach in the world. Who needs a shooting coach more 736 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: than Ben Simmons right now? I mean, he doesn't need 737 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: anything else. Like Ben Simmons was born to play defense, bro. 738 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Like if you just look at his physical attributes, like 739 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: he's a defensive Dynamo like I would put him on. 740 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: You can put him on anybody in the league other 741 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: than Trade Young probably, and he didn't do a good job. 742 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: Probably Stepp for giving trouble too. But man being Simmons 743 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: is such an enigma man because I honestly feel like 744 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: he was thrust into being a point guard because his 745 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: court vision was so great in high school and his 746 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: and and he was able to have the ball in 747 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: high school and just come down and just do what 748 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: he wanted to do, and a lot of that, A 749 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: lot of his court vision is based on the fact 750 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: that he scared to shoot though, if you get what 751 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like some guys, some guys have court vision 752 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: where it's like I can really break down the defense 753 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: like a Trade Young boy example, Trey Young is a 754 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: great passer. Everybody eats. Everybody eats on the hawk when 755 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Tray youngs is out there like he gonna give you 756 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: forty and he might have fifteen and sins as well. 757 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: But he's looking for guys because that's a part of 758 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: his game. He has a i Q to really feel 759 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: where guys are in certain spots. But I feel like 760 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, he plays what I call like hot potato basketball, 761 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: where it's like I don't want any if you know, 762 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: the certain parts of the game, he doesn't even look 763 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: at the realm when he has the ball. That's a 764 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: problem for me and Rondo. You think the fouling, the 765 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: hacking got to him, Yeah, it's definitely an his subconscious man. 766 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: I feel like he's starting to really think about those 767 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: free throws and he doesn't look forward to go into 768 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: the foul line. And that's that's That's one way you 769 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: can assess any player, whether they're young or NBA player, man, 770 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: like you gotta want to go to the foul line. 771 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: Like I coach kids at all types of age groups, 772 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: and you got certain kids on your team that when 773 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: your team is in the double bonus and there's thirty 774 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: seconds left in the game and we're trying to seal 775 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: this win, You've got certain players on your team who 776 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: are trying to get the inbounds pass because they want 777 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: to shoot those free throws because they know, you know, 778 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: I practice these shots all the time. I just feel 779 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: like being and just not confident in his skill set. 780 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: And he does have time to rectify that. So I 781 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: feel like he's just in a situation man, to keep 782 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: it real with you, Jason. The pressure from the Philly fans. 783 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: We know they were one of the most fickle Philip 784 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: the fil sports fans. I mean, I don't want to 785 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: take any backlash, but I gotta keep it real. There 786 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: are some of the most fickle fans on Earth in 787 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: any sport. So if being Simmons was in Minnesota or 788 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: maybe even Utah right now going through these same struggles, 789 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: I feel like certain fans and that fan base would 790 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: be more patient. But when you're in Philadelphia, we saw 791 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: how they did Carson Wentz, We've seen how they've done 792 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: like pretty much every start in feeling herself for Alanson, 793 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson could do no wrong. But man, being since 794 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: bro like, I just like it's time for a new 795 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: I changed the scenery, Jacson. Just to answer your question completely, 796 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: I think it's time it's time for a change of scenery, 797 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: and we might see being in Minnesota. Man, Yeah, somebody 798 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: mentioned to me that he doesn't feel safe right now 799 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: in Philly and he's getting some threats, So yeah, I 800 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna end well there for him. I 801 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: just want to point out, though, this guy who at 802 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: a triple double in the closeout game against Washington, and 803 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: you're right, the confidence is not there against Atlanta. It 804 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: was an awful series. Is it a stretch? And again, 805 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons has never won an m v P or 806 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: been to the finals. But Lebron's series against the MAVs 807 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: in the finals, when he was with the heat all 808 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: of us, something happened. He just wasn't Lebron wasn't being aggressive. Um, 809 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: I felt like there was a little a hint of 810 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: that from Ben Simmons against the Hawks. I don't know, 811 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: you want to laugh at that, agree a little bit, 812 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, we're just gunshot. Like in the basketball world, 813 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: like people like hands on with players, we call that 814 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: being gunshot like Ben Simmons did. It's not that he 815 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: didn't trust his jump shocker. We all know he don't 816 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: really trust his three ball more than anything. But if 817 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: you go back and watch those I know it's summer league, 818 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: I know it's pick up ball, but we've seen those 819 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: videos floating around the last couple of weeks with Ben 820 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: Simmons and the like last couple of summers playing pick 821 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: up ball and shooting from everywhere. So that shows you 822 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: that he can actually shoot a basketball, So that's not 823 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: in question. The partner. The same question is upstairs, like 824 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: the mental aspect of shooting the basketball and saying, okay, 825 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: I've missed three shots in the row, because there everybody 826 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: can shoot when they hit a couple, like they make 827 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: every other shot. But when you started missing two or 828 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: three in a row, then you find out who's really 829 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: a who's really a mentally tough player, Who's who has 830 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: that you know, who has that mindset that j R. 831 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: Smith's mindsets I call it where it's like I'm like, 832 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm feel like I'm gonna make every shot. And that's 833 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: the That's the only thing that separating Ben Simmons from 834 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: other guys right now is that has his same same 835 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: body style, his same characteristics physically, he just does not 836 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: trust hisself and the Philly fans that pressure. Imagine not 837 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: trusting yourself and second and second guessing and doubt on 838 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: yourself and then living in that fan base around that 839 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: fan base is tough man, not healthy? All right, Well, 840 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: we can wrap up on two guys. I'm enamored with 841 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: the Zion Williamson idea that maybe he does not sign 842 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: the rookie extension because he's so unhappy. We're starting to 843 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: cure rumblings right that his family doesn't like the situation there, 844 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: staying than Gundy's gone. We don't know what happens with 845 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: a lonzo with heart. Um what do you and any 846 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: read on Zion? I think it would be awesome for 847 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: him to play the villain and just say I'm out, 848 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: thanks guys, I'm done here, I'm gonna I'm gonna go elsewhere. 849 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever done it, No like high drafted rookie's ever 850 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: done it. Do you think there's any chance he does that? Yeah, 851 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a good chance that 852 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: we will see Zion Williamson. This is me, This is 853 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: my random going out on a limb. You probably can 854 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: play this back in a couple of years, but I 855 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: think Zion Williamson will be a New York niked some 856 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: m hm, we are j Barrett like they have a 857 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: great friendship, uh from that time at Duke and I 858 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: just think that New York Knicks are building something far 859 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: as like for young players if you noticed, like most 860 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: of their good players this year with younger guys other 861 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: than Darry Rose and TODs Gibson and a couple other Vets. 862 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: But the Knicks are building something, but they have a 863 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: certain energy about them, and I think guys like Zion 864 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: Williams are not taking notice. I even think Damon Little 865 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: has taken notice to what it needs are doing because 866 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: we saw high electric masson Square Garden was in that 867 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: first round series with the Hawks. Man, like a lot 868 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: of players around the league is starting to look at 869 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: New York like that's real, that's a premium free agent 870 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: destination and it wasn't that like even a year or 871 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: two ago. Because I still feel like, I still feel 872 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: like in my heart Kevin Durant and Kyle Reacher who 873 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: went to the Knicks instead of Brooklyn as far as 874 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: like the way they will the way they would be 875 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: loved in the city. Because if you look at the 876 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: ticket sales for the playoffs, for example, you can see 877 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: at lower level at the Brooklyn Nets in the first round, 878 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 1: second round series for a couple of hundreds, those same 879 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: exact seats, those same exact seats for the first round 880 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: match up with the Hawks were the lowest ticket was 881 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: like lower, like like hundred for the lowest nos Lees. 882 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: So the New York Knicks always will always run the city. 883 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: So I think even if the Brooklyn Nets win a 884 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: title or two, it would never be looked at the 885 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: same way as bringing a title to the Knicks. Get 886 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, no, no, definitely. I'm wondering, though, 887 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: how much of this has to do with the Leon 888 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: Rose move. What do you know about him? Man? Leon 889 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: Rose is a basketball mine And that's why I think 890 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: that Nick has had this resurgence because they got basketball 891 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: people in the building. Leon Rose worldwide, west Uh coach Tibbs. 892 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be hard notes. So that's why 893 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: I said a guy like Zion Wimson in New Orleans, 894 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: those guys are looking at other teams man like, hold on, man, 895 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: I like the energy there because players want to be 896 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: around that vibe. They want to be around a certain vibe, 897 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: a certain locker room, a certain the fan base, the 898 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: energy of the fan base. And when you watch the 899 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: Pelicans games, man like, I don't even I just cannot 900 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: get with the Pelicans for some reason. It's I don't 901 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: know if it's the mascot. I don't know, if it's 902 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: the uniforms, Like, I can't get it the Pelican Yeah, 903 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Anthony Davis left there and Zion is 904 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna live. I mean, you just wonder if they turned 905 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: into the Seattle Sonics in a couple of years. I 906 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: read some crazy stat that they've never paid the luxury 907 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: tax and now they've got Josh Harden Alonso this summer, 908 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, if you lose those two guys, 909 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: I know you're going super young, but you're not making 910 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs next year. No, And I don't see I 911 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: just don't see them building. I just don't see them 912 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: building a franchise that is like able to depete for 913 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: a championship. And I could tell Zion wants to win, 914 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: like he's a young kid, but you can tell he 915 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 1: wants to win, just like LaMelo Ball in Charlotte LaMelo Ball. 916 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: You could tell he plays winning basketball, but he's not 917 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: just there for the highlights. And like some guys in 918 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: the league who wanted to, you know, get a nice 919 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: highlight packets so they can get paid, like Zion Wimpson 920 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: really wants to win. Man um, let's wrap up on 921 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: Luca Donte too. You know, for my mind, if I'm 922 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: starting a team tomorrow in the NBA and I get 923 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: first overall pick age, matters, I'm taking Luca Donte. I mean, 924 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: I know you might go k D Harden and I 925 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: get that, that's fine. I think Luca elevates the play 926 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: of everyone. I know. He hasn't gotten out of the 927 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: first round. Although I'm sure listen cuffs to supporting cast 928 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: is rivals what Lebron had in OH seven when he 929 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: went to the finals. You know, with the cast I 930 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: find maybe not that bad. But on that level, who's 931 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: going to Dallas? Can Luca get anybody? There? Can? This 932 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: Nike guy, I don't. I don't know much about him. 933 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: What maybe you know some stuff? Can Jason Kidd, Like, 934 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in Dallas this offseason? I agree with 935 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: you on Luca. Man. If I had to pick a 936 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: player to be my franchise player, it would definitely be 937 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: him because that was my pick, uh, my preseason picked 938 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: for m v P. I thought Luca was gonna have 939 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: to when I have an MVP year, and I think 940 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna win multiple, multiple m vps before it. Saull 941 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: said it done, man. But to answer your question, man, uh, 942 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: for that's tough. I don't think Dallas will have a 943 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: hard time attracting free agents because Mark Cuban, I mean, 944 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: you've seen what he's done with the organization, all the 945 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: way down to the locker rooms to the team playing 946 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: like he makes the accommodations very sweet and the amenities 947 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: very sweet for players. Um. I just think, honestly, I 948 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: think the perfect running mate for Luca would have been 949 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: honest if he wouldn't have signed that extension with that 950 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: would have been a really good because Luca has to 951 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: play with a guy who doesn't really need the ball 952 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: in his hands. Because we all know that Luca Donnas 953 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: has one of the highest UTIs rates in the n Yeah, 954 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: he has the ball in his hands the majority of 955 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: the time. And that's why I feel like, uh, port Zingis, 956 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: we we we've seen the stories in the last couple days. 957 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, we've been hearing the romans for a while. 958 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: But they said, those two guys do not like each 959 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: other at all. They do not like each other, and 960 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: you can kind of see it on the court man like, 961 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: there's no there's no real rapport with those two guys. 962 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: So I feel like, for one, Dallas has to find 963 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: a nice trade package for port Zingis. Because I tweeted 964 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: this and probably when I want to say, the first 965 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: year put Zingis came to Dallas and I started to 966 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: see it, and I was like, they gotta find a 967 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: way to move Portzingis before the jig is up, like 968 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: before before his value diminishes, because we're started to see 969 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 1: port Zingis value diminished her to what it was when 970 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: he was in New York. So that's why I said, 971 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 1: a lot of these front office guys, some of them 972 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: make the move a little too late, like a year 973 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: or two too late. So they got they got a 974 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 1: hammer down a nice trade package for Porzingis this summer 975 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: because it's obvious those to those two guys are not 976 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to mesh well together and win 977 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: a championship together. So I don't know, you might, you 978 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: might might. We might see dame. I mean, because damn 979 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,959 Speaker 1: can play off the ball. Damn yep, yep. Bradley Bill 980 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 1: could be there, Yeah, Bradley Bill. Anybody that can, Yeah, 981 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: anybody that can play off the ball will really flourish 982 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: with with Luca Darin's because he's gonna happen. Nobody wants. 983 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna want Porzingis, man, I know, man, it's try 984 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: It's like trying to give away. It's like trying to 985 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: give away a couch on the yard still, bro, like 986 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: like the neighborhood yard. Still I got free, just take 987 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: it away. I'll load it under your truck. Bro, my 988 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: next door neighbor. Nice lady, you got a beautiful couch 989 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: set right now her driveway. And it's like nobody wants in. 990 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of teams gonna do 991 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: the porzingis because it's bad. You drop man like big time. 992 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you my final Ben Simmons um wacky trade. 993 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: I can see Ben Simmons landing in Toronto. I don't 994 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: know if they're gonna keep MESSI. I don't know if 995 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: you've heard anything on him. But if I'm a team, 996 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: I just I trade for Ben Simmons. I jam him 997 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: at the five and I try something radical. I know 998 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: he's not don't want to play the five. But how 999 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: many good centers are in the league? Seriously, Uh, there's 1000 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: like maybe five. We just saw Rudy Gobert in Utah. 1001 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 1: They won the regular season, big whooping, big big deal. 1002 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 1: What do they do in the playoffs? And Rudy Gobert like, yeah, 1003 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound crazy at all. But you saying you 1004 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: would put you I mean, I'm not honest. You're saying 1005 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: you would put Ben Simmons at the five in Toronto. 1006 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 1: That's not crazy at all because that's the problem these 1007 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: players coming to the NBA, and whether it's the scouts, 1008 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: the college scouts, the NBA scouts, different scouts, they are 1009 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: giving these kids positions when they're in AU, when they're 1010 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: in middle school, they're in high school. Like I said 1011 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: early about being Simmons having the ball in his hands 1012 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: at AU, just because he played point guard in high 1013 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: school does not mean he's the point guard even that 1014 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: one year at l s U. You can do that 1015 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: in the SEC and college basketball because you're a physical freak. 1016 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: But when you get to the NBA, bro like you're 1017 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna get exposed when you're playing out of position. That's 1018 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: all that's happening with Ben. If you, like you said, 1019 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: if you're sticking at the four, and he maybe can 1020 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: play some point forward like a Anthony Mason type guy 1021 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: with Anthony Mason played before, but he had the ball 1022 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: in his hand specilitating. Sometimes you have to put him 1023 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: in that role, but you can't make him your primary ball. 1024 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: Haidling he can't be your Luka Donne's your Lebron. And 1025 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: I think when Being Simmons first came in, everybody saw 1026 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: his physical dimensions. He's six nine, he's kids though, he's muscular, 1027 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: he's athletic. So a lot of a lot of cornball 1028 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: scouts immediately did what, he's the next Lebron James. He's 1029 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: the next Lebron James. Like, we gotta stop that. Like 1030 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: you saw the remarks the last couple of weeks they've made. 1031 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: I forgot who said I think with stephen A. Stephen 1032 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: A came out National TV and said Devin Booker is 1033 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: the next Kobe Bryant. Oh gosh, We've gotta We've got 1034 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: to stop doing that because you're putting pressure on who 1035 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not Kobe Bryant. And just like Being 1036 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: Simmons is not Lebron James, we gotta respect his skill 1037 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: set for what it is and try to find Like 1038 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: you said, a situation go to State Warriors might be 1039 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: a possibility. You never I still think that's in play. Yeah, 1040 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you make Ben I don't want 1041 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: to say you turn him into Clint Capella, right, but 1042 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: if you've got Ben Simmons as your five, and all 1043 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: he's doing is setting screens. And I know you want 1044 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: to sag off him because he can't shoot. Well, guess 1045 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: what if you If he's setting screens for a great shooter, 1046 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: then that guy's gonna get tons of open looks because 1047 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: you're not hugging up Ben Simmons. I mean, someone's gotta 1048 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: get creative because I mean cuffs. You know this. If 1049 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: you don't have a major star in this league, you're 1050 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 1: not winning um And yeah, I would try something outside 1051 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: the box, something radical. And guess what. The Warriors did 1052 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: that with the small ball and it brought them greatness. Uh, 1053 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: everybody else copied it, and now you gotta try something new, right. 1054 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: I could see Simmons on the Raptors, I could see 1055 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: him on I definitely can see him on Go to 1056 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: State because they would be the one team that's on 1057 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: orthodox and think outside the box that will put him 1058 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: at the four and the five and like a Draymond 1059 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: Green roll. Yeah, and we can see him flourish in 1060 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: that situation. But at the end of the day, man, 1061 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: I am rooting for being Simmons man because he is 1062 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: so young and he got a lot more time and 1063 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: I hate when we write guys off because guess what 1064 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: we did. We saw that. We saw everybody do that 1065 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: at Ready Jackson, Jason, we saw it. Yeah, they wrote 1066 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: Ready Jackson off man and Ready Jackson looking like he's 1067 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 1: gonna get a hundred million this summer. Man. Yeah, people forget, 1068 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: we're not paying for what the guy was. We're paying 1069 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: for what we think they can be. And I mean, 1070 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: I think you gotta pay Reggie Jackson given what he 1071 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: can be now as as a better player. But anyways, Cuffs, 1072 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: we've gone a long started you up so much of 1073 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: your time. Great stuff as always on the NBA. Uh, 1074 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: enjoy your conversations with k D, Dame and Lebron and 1075 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: congrats on your rise in media. Man, I appreciate it. Man, 1076 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Man, it's always a good time.