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Speaker 1: Great recipe.

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Speaker 1: We'll be making again.

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Speaker 2: this recipe. No leftovers you know what that means. I'll

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Speaker 3: Can't wait to see some nuggets in that mug.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna fill it.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I've never eaten a nugget out of a mug.

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Speaker 4: That muggy got over there in the sweet world. You

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Speaker 1: Maybe have a second mug with all the dip in it.

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Speaker 1: I figured a drink, all right. Lots to talk about

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Speaker 1: here on today's show. And yeah, congratulations to the Denver

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Speaker 1: Nuggets and all their fans. They go to their first

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals, Yo Kich leading them past the Lakers one thirteen,

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Speaker 1: one eleven. Another close game, but in the end Denver

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Speaker 3: Man, Well, a pretty fitting ending with Nicole Jokich hitting

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Speaker 4: just an awesome, awesome performance all the way around.

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Speaker 1: This was a really fun sweep.

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Speaker 4: Like this was a four to zero series, not always entertaining,

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Speaker 4: Quite clearly, those were four great performances from the stars

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Speaker 1: I had just watched an Instagram clip about twelve ways

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Speaker 1: It honestly, like mentally would have been really easy. I

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of a win. I mean, like, it's

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Speaker 3: You're right, the Nuggets don't die. It was surprising. Even

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally right.

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Speaker 1: So first half, grisham, it's over. For the other half.

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Speaker 3: It is shocking that the Nuggets and Lakers did have

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Speaker 3: There's there's there's no weak link right there.

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Speaker 1: There's so hot Aaron Gordon. Yeah, his best game of

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Speaker 1: And he was doing his great job which he always

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Speaker 4: Basically the same for the Lakers as well. Everybody knew

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Speaker 4: incredible this series. Fifteen points per game, forty eight from

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Speaker 4: the field, forty four from three. There were multiple quarters

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was vengeance.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched a single one of those Batman movies.

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Speaker 4: Keaton's the only Batman for me as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: In the next one, isn't he at No, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go see The Flash because I liked the

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Speaker 4: KCP was great. Michael Porter Junior was awesome. Ten rebounds

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Speaker 4: because that was some play off basketball, great great stuff

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Speaker 4: for the Nuggets to pull it out, especially after it

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Speaker 4: like you're saying, after those two charges on Jokic, he's

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Speaker 1: The turning point in the game, and it was not.

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Speaker 3: he just played jazz hands like he literally was just

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Speaker 3: we know the plan. We're just gonna go. Yeah, defense

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Speaker 3: You know he's a funny guy. He shakes his ass

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Speaker 3: know we talked about KCP twenty plus point game. Uh,

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Speaker 3: He got Michael Porter Junior going in that game. All

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Speaker 3: these guys don't stop talking. That's a championship team. They're

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Speaker 3: just ready. You hear Michael Malone screaming at everybody. He's

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Speaker 3: And he's an old school guy. And you could you

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Speaker 3: acronym there to the to the referee for that tech foul,

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Speaker 3: But I got the fight.

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Speaker 1: We did see Tristan Thompson in this game.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, my first note about the game, Tristan Thompson did good.

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Speaker 4: What I woke went to bed last night, woke up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was looking like Wilt Chamberlain out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That was a nice dunk fell. Yeah, great feed from

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Speaker 1: Thompson said, our backs are against the wall. This is

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Speaker 1: He's the head of the snake. This is why it

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Speaker 3: All the questions.

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Speaker 3: I heard ra Sean McCant say, where's he going? Where

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Speaker 3: he's going to locker room. He's probably going to get

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Speaker 3: his new legs, his second set of legs. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought he got up, I know more

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Speaker 3: I guess one super jump and you know he's going

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Speaker 3: to talk trash when he gets a Donkey did some trash.

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Speaker 1: Talk, and Ham did what we thought he might do.

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Speaker 1: That one in the corner, like I said, which was

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Speaker 4: Were it not Lebron James's twentieth season and he's thirty

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Speaker 4: be looking sideways at Lebron for his fourth quarter performance

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Speaker 4: in this series. Had a couple of shots that could

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter, sometimes by Murray and sometimes by Jokic, and

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Speaker 4: that's part of why this series ended up a sweep

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Speaker 4: But he also carried the team for forty seven minutes

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to Lebron and his postgame press

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Speaker 1: conference there and whether or not he's considering retirement. In

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Speaker 1: a second, I did miss speak on something. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: said the Oscar Robertson MVP Trophy, Yeah, the Nuggets.

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Speaker 4: The Nuggets get the Oscar Robertson Trophy for winning the

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson Trophy. Yeah, there you go, there you go correct.

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Speaker 3: And that's why Lisa Salter said the aptly m v

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Speaker 3: P trop the aptly named MVP Trophy the Magic Johnson Trophy.

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Speaker 3: Because Jokich is a triple double master. That's right, makes sense.

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Speaker 3: What was that his eighth.

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Speaker 1: Eighth triple double of the playoffs? I think Stattitude said

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Speaker 1: conference final series. So he did that rightfully. Wins it.

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Speaker 1: Uh And like you said, the Nuggets winning the West

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Speaker 1: The first one, I think we have a photo. What

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Speaker 4: Patch, big old patch, big old patch, big old hat,

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Speaker 4: I like the shirts, yea, And I like the hats,

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Speaker 4: it's like cool hat, but it doesn't look like your

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Speaker 1: And then again, we don't have a photo of this

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Speaker 4: He had an I think it was the game where

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Speaker 1: You never forget a pair of all brown shoes. I

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Speaker 4: New balance, they're reintroducing themselves to the basketball world. They

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Speaker 4: by ruy Hacha Mura just hitting them right on the nose.

433
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Speaker 1: Boop right there. Yeah, unfortunately that is.

434
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 4: A three shot foul for really and that was actually

435
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 4: kind of a big play of the old boobster.

436
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

437
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 1: Any Davis also fell Jamal Murray on a three point

438
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 1: It's not a good one either, So some mental lapses

439
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: there from from the Lakers. So the Nuggets have yet

440
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: to trail in any series. They're eight no at home

441
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they're twelve and three overall this postseason run.

442
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: Did they not lose an overtime in the in the

443
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 1: first round.

444
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Timberwolves. Jokic went to the line down one with

445
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 4: two free throws.

446
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 1: He went one for two and that's how they got

447
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: to over So they lose that game, which is basically

448
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: we're getting at like a toss up there that they

449
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: should have maybe won. And then the two losses to

450
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: the Suns where it took you know, incredible performances mainly

451
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: from Devin Booker, but also Kevin Durant at home. That's

452
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: it right now, twelve and three.

453
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: What you're saying is they're winning this thing.

454
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm not betting against them. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited

455
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: to see what probably Jimmy and the Heat could do,

456
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: of course, but you know what's gonna be fascinating though.

457
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: The Nuggets all playoffs at least have this no one

458
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: respects us attitude. You know, Malone has leaned into this

459
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,479
Speaker 1: big part of it. Playing the Lakers in the conference finals.

460
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: You're playing Lebron James, you know, him going to a

461
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: million conference finals, him playing in a lot of finals.

462
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: But now it's really no longer true. Okay, that's done.

463
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: People respect you. Everybody knows you're awesome. You're not underrated,

464
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: You're you're not really underappreciated. I don't think anymore. You're

465
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 1: not gonna be the underdogs.

466
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: People have all learned it just be.

467
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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see whether Malone tries to still

468
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: run with that narrative and the team does or do

469
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: you do you try and do you have to pivot

470
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: now with your your coaching bulletin board material because if

471
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Speaker 1: it's the Heat, I'm sorry, You're just not gonna be

472
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be overlooked for the Dogs or anything.

473
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: And it's worked for them.

474
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Speaker 3: Don't even wrong, especially because the Heat have been over Yeah,

475
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 3: but I.

476
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: Don't know the Heat.

477
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 4: You know, so far they've beaten the two teams while

478
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: almost almost beating the two teams in the NBA with

479
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 4: the best records so far. Phillery was the third best record.

480
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: They are already out, but Denver next up. But it's

481
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: different to go from nobody believed in US to everybody

482
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: believed in US. I don't remember ESPDN doing a whole

483
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: bunch of segments about if the Heat could beat the Nuggets.

484
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 4: They did it all the time for the Lakers after

485
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 4: the trade deadline, and the answer from Kendrick Perkins was

486
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 4: always yes, Zach Low was sticking up for the Nuggets.

487
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 4: But maybe they're deep in the archives somewhere. But I

488
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: doubt it. I doubt people were looking at the seventh

489
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 4: and eighth seeded Heat saying, oh, I bet they'll be

490
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 4: making a run to the finals. Yere, how do they

491
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: match up against the team that's never made it?

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably unlikely. All right, let's talk Lebron here. He

494
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: ended his postgame news conference last night by telling reporters quote,

495
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: going forward with the game of basketball, I've got a

496
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: lot to think about. Everybody's like, well, what, hey? What?

497
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Following the news conference, Dave mcmanniman of ESPN he asked Lebron, hey,

498
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: can you elaborate on that somewhat cryptic statement at the end.

499
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: This was the exchange from Dave. Dave when you say

500
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: you got to think about stuff? What thread should we

501
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: be pulling on that? And Lebron says, if I want

502
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: to continue to play as in next year, Lebron, yeah, Dave,

503
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 1: you would walk away? Lebron, I got to think about it.

504
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: So this obviously has everyone going, Oh, is Lebron retiring

505
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: or what is Lebron doing here? What's the move? What

506
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: do you think tk after hearing Lebron's comments here last night,

507
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: I think he's frustrated with being swept out of the

508
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: playoffs for the second time in his career. He's air

509
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: in his thoughts.

510
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: But I also think he could use task and Melis

511
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: or Jamichael Green here to put a big old cap

512
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 4: on his head, because there ain't no way Lebron James

513
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: is retiring without a retire hirement Tour for an entire season,

514
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 4: right right. Also, his son is coming into the NBA

515
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: and basically a year maybe Lebron takes a year off.

516
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: I've heard people suggesting that. That being said, this is

517
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 4: no doubt the most mortal Lebron has looked in his

518
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: NBA career. He's missed significant time in four of his

519
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 4: five Lakers season. Only the Bubble season he didn't really

520
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: miss a huge chunk of time. There was four months

521
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 4: off during that season. There's that clip of JJ Reddick

522
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: going around talking about why he decided to call it

523
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 4: quits in the NBA, basically because he thought his off

524
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 4: seasons were a lot harder than the NBA season getting

525
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 4: ready for the stress of it. That probably is even

526
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: more so the case with Lebron. We know he spends

527
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Speaker 4: what a million dollars a year on his body. He's

528
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Speaker 4: the oldest player who's doing stuff in the league right now.

529
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Speaker 4: So it's gotta be quite the strain to be looking

530
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: at a summer saying, I got a rehab from this

531
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: foot injury, and I gotta get ready to go and

532
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: be the best guy on the court again in just

533
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 4: a couple of months. But he's going to be back

534
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Speaker 4: on the court again in a couple of months, trying

535
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: to be the best guy. I do not believe Lebron

536
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: is retiring just out of nowhere, Tess.

537
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: He is not retiring. I don't think there's any chance.

538
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: It's a great point about his off season though. That's

539
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: what old players always say. Dirk always said, just having

540
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: to do everything pre game, everything in the in the

541
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: training room, all that stuff is just a pain in

542
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: the ass. He went in to his entire press conference

543
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: yesterday not talking about it at all, basically telling people

544
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna mention it, and then right at the

545
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: end gave us a little tea. It's an ltzo just

546
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: to basically get us talking. I think to say, basketball wise,

547
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: I have to think about it. I just think it's

548
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: very figure und Michael. He's obviously accomplished everything he's not.

549
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: He's the number one score he could. But he's so

550
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: close to Bronni coming. That's probably his biggest his biggest

551
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: motivation and another slight motivation, keep Ruey around, keep Austin

552
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: Reeves around, and get somebody else, get one more guard.

553
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: They were pretty close to being I mean, then I

554
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: gets we're the best team obviously, but they got to

555
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: a Western Conference final. They need somebody who can score

556
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: from the perimeter. That's what they want.

557
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, there are a couple ways to look at

558
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: this in these comments. One, it's just classic Lebron, you know,

559
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: controlling the narrative, having all the headlines less talking about

560
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: being swept in the conference finals and now suddenly like,

561
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: oh is that it for Lebron? And we're all just

562
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: wondering that for a week. There's that. There's also you

563
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 1: said it tasks. He's notorious just for applying pressure on

564
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: his front offices through the media, sometimes through social media,

565
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: to upgrade rosters, to stay aggressive, to like, hey, look

566
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: at what I just did in the first half and

567
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: still did at times, and you go get these guys,

568
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: you go resign these guys. Who knows whether or not

569
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: it includes, hey, go get my buddy Kyrie and all that.

570
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: So there's that. But then the other working theory is,

571
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: and it's a fun one. I have to admit, could

572
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Lebron retire? And I throw that in air quotes because hey,

573
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: coming up in what a couple of days, he said

574
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna find out whether he's got to get surgery

575
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: on this foot. He's gonna have the MRI, he said,

576
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: see how the tendon either healed or didn't heal, and

577
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna go from there. So could he retire in

578
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: the sense like I'm done to get surgery on my foot,

579
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: to take care of that, to rest, whatever you want

580
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: to call it, take the year off, and if he

581
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: actually retired, he could forego his money with the Lakers.

582
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: He could just go watch Bronnie play college hoops for

583
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: a year, and then Bronnie, after one and done, gets

584
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: drafted by some team who knows where San Antonio spurs,

585
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: and then Lebron goes, oh yeah, well I'm back. I'm

586
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: back to play with him, and could hypothetically then go

587
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: anywhere and have his farewell tour with his son. Yeah, Vic, Brownie,

588
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Lebron and Pop I love it. Okay, So you think

589
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: this is honestly that that is that working theory.

590
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: Potentially he could be like the greatest players of all time.

591
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: They never retire and come back. Never happens, right, I

592
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: mean I can't think of one. Yeah, yeah, you can't

593
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: think of anything like that happening. Of course, it's possibility.

594
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: I think Lebron will be.

595
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: On the court next season. Yeah, I think if I

596
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: had to pick of all the options, I think we

597
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: find out something is, of course wrong with this foot,

598
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: and he does address it with whatever surgery or whatever

599
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: he has to do, so he misses a massive chunk

600
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: of time next year, a huge amount of time, so

601
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: he sort of almost takes the year off to rest up.

602
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: He still gets paid by the Lakers whatever it is,

603
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: forty seven million dollars I think it is. So there

604
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: is that, and then he has a player option for

605
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: the year after that, which he could then say, you know,

606
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: it all depends on the Brownie Junior situation of where

607
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: he's going and is there any potential for him to

608
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: be on the Lakers Brownie Junior or is it another

609
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: team he could basically pick and choose then at that point,

610
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: because then it will be this weird thing where a

611
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: team will be drafting Brownie Junior but also in a

612
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: weird way, draft Lebron to come play for them. That's fascinating.

613
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: They would be the most famous team instantly. They would

614
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: be the biggest team in the league.

615
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Let's hear what people think.

616
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: I like this.

617
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: At the very end of the ESPN story, asked by

618
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: ESPN if Lebron believed a full summer of rehab could

619
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: get him back to being the player he was before

620
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: his foot injury. James nodded, why, because I'm still better

621
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 4: than ninety percent of the NBA, he said, maybe ninety five.

622
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Lebron doesn't even put himself number one anymore.

623
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: That's kind of surprising to me, actually, But I mean,

624
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: being better than ninety five percent of the NBA is

625
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: pretty good.

626
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: True, still pretty good on one foot.

627
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about a game where he almost played

628
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: forty eight minutes and scored forty points. It's pretty damn good.

629
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: And he was legitimately hurt at the end of this

630
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: game too, when he got picked up something on his shin.

631
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: He was hobbling around. This wasn't a oh my foot

632
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: injury from a month ago. This was him getting hurt

633
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: and hobbling around as well. So he was hobbling to

634
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: the finish line, getting there in the end. And and

635
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: I guess he knows, I mean, when he can't take

636
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: it every single possession to the hoop, he knows that

637
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: he is slightly mortal, but he's gonna go out on

638
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: his own terms. I wonder if there's a part of

639
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: him that also thinks I want Bronnie to be his

640
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: own man, and maybe not even play with him on

641
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: the same team, maybe to see him do his own thing,

642
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: maybe not take all the headlines, maybe to be like

643
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: Mello and Kai were Mello's saying you are my legacy,

644
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: and to get out of his way a little bit.

645
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: The difference is there. Though Mellow is not in the

646
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: league and I'm scoring forty in an elimination game.

647
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Speaker 3: Still I'm aware. Yeah, but yeah, he would be taking

648
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: it taking I would be nice. It'd be nice, give

649
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: him a lot of advice in the locker room and

650
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: all that. That'd be pretty cool.

651
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: The other way to look at this, I heard Team

652
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: Holds say it could be some truth to it is.

653
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, after I have done running a marathon, if

654
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: you were to put a microphone in my face and say, hey,

655
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: you ready for your next marathon, I'd say I'm never

656
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: running again. Fuck that.

657
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's horrible. But he answered every question and said,

658
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about next year. I'm not talk about

659
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: next year. I'm not talking about I'm not talking about it.

660
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Right at the end, he knew what he was doing

661
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: with of course, he is the last words, oh yeah,

662
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: this is my last question. Let me get this in

663
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: before I move on here, just to give you a taste,

664
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: and then he moved on.

665
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: You think Michael Malone's upset?

666
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: This is this is the big story coming out of

667
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: the Nuggets sweeping the Lakers out of the playoffs, feeding

668
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: the Lakers for the first time ever in their history,

669
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: going to the finals for the first time ever in

670
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: their history.

671
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: And the story is, is this guy gonna come back and

672
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: everybody thinks he is.

673
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: Good bulletin board material, No doubt, it is, no doubt is.

674
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: The finals.

675
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Michael Malone turned his hat to the side a little

676
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: bit when he gave that little speech at the end

677
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: and said, Bron coming for you. F that.

678
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he's not upset, because we have

679
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: like one hundred days until the NBA Finals. It's like,

680
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, Adam Silver's love of this, Like God, thanks, Bron,

681
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: appreciate that that little carrot you dangled out there for everyone.

682
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: We can talk about this for you know, probably good

683
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: four or five days and then we'll start getting back

684
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: into the swing of the NBA Finals and probably the

685
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Nuggets versus the Heat. All right, well, let's hear everybody's

686
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: theory on what Lebron was doing there at the end

687
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: of that postgame press conference, and what's he going to do?

688
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: Obviously next season, is he gonna play? Is he gonna

689
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: not the whole Brownie junior situation? You tell us, you

690
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: tell us, we'll take our first break when we come back.

691
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about Carmelo Anthony. Don't

692
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: go anywhere, all right, still here in the Classic Factory.

693
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Speaker 1: If you're joining us live on YouTube, we'd love to

694
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Speaker 1: see it. Make sure you hit that like button and

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Speaker 1: make sure you subscribed. This news broke yesterday right before

696
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: the show, and we promised that we'd talk about it

697
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: in greater detail on today's pots. So here we are

698
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Speaker 1: Camelo Anthony. Carmelo Anthony officially retired from the NBA on Monday.

699
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: The number three pick in the two thousand and three

700
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: NBA draft, spent nineteen seasons in the league, last played

701
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: in an NBA game last season as a member of

702
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Retires as the number nine scorer in league history.

703
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: Only Lebron, Kareem, Karl Malone, Kobe Jordan, Dirk, Welton Shack

704
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: scored more than the mellow Man who finished with twenty

705
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: two and eighty nine points. His legacy long secure. You know,

706
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: he was named to the seventy five Greatest Players in

707
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: NBA History list, ten time All Star scoring champ, six

708
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: time All NBA selection, won a championship title back with

709
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Syracuse and three Olympic gold medals too in eight, twenty twelve,

710
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. So what a career, finally hanging it up.

711
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: How will Mello be remembered to you guys? What will

712
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: be one of the first things like pops in your

713
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: mind when you're thinking Mello? Besides the hats.

714
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: The hats will be high on the list. But uh

715
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: I everybe once in a while you see a tweet

716
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: go around during the summertime. Usually people forget this guy

717
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: was a bucket, right right right. No one will ever

718
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 4: forget that Carmelo was a bucket. You'll talk about having

719
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: a deep bag, one of the deepest Mello had. So

720
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: that's how I remember as a walking bucket, kind of

721
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: operating out of the mid post on either side, left

722
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: or right, just a whole bunch of jab steps, pump fakes, fadeaways,

723
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: bully ball. There have been numerous clips going around of

724
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: players from Mello's generation talking about the hardest Gullys to

725
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: guard when they were playing, and Mellow always comes up

726
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: because of how physical he was and just like how

727
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: much of a brute he was using his force to

728
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: get to the hoop. And for a guy who had

729
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: really quick footwork and a nice jumper man.

730
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: He was a strong, strong player.

731
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: So that's what I'll remember about Mellow, like able to

732
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: score on anybody. When you're looking at the greatest players

733
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 4: of his generation, there's probably an S tier that he's

734
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: not quite making, but he's in an S tier for

735
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: cool players, and he's in the A tier for performance

736
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 4: on the court. He wanted to go to the Knicks

737
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: when nobody wanted to go to the Knicks. He went there.

738
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 4: They were better than they had been in a couple

739
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: of decades. So yeah, he's a Knicks legend to me,

740
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: So shout out to Mello.

741
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: The bucket obviously the first and foremost and retired a

742
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: top ten score is something else I'll remember because that

743
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: sort of sneaked up as he was doing it in

744
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: his latter years. And yeah, won't make the accolades, but

745
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: should be recognized is that he reinvented himself at the

746
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: end of his career when we all thought, Nah, that

747
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: ain't gonna happen. It sure didn't seem that way when

748
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: he was with OKC in twenty seventeen and he said

749
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: me come off the bench, ha ha. And then he

750
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: went to Houston and they released him, and it sure

751
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: felt like it was over. And then he got three

752
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: more years after that. So I will definitely remember that

753
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: this guy who was a number one guy threw out

754
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: his Nuggets and nixt ten years decided I want to

755
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: extend my career and that must have been difficult for him,

756
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: and it is difficult for a lot of players, as

757
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: we've seen, but it's become more of a trend him

758
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: and his former OKC teammate Westbrook doing that. So I'll

759
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: remember a bunch of those things. I mean a lot

760
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: of stuff from the Nuggets years and in the Knicks years,

761
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: which the Jersey retirement question is a great one, I

762
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: think with the Knicks. With the Knicks, yeah.

763
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: More likely than Denver the way likely no coat wearing

764
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: number fifteen, I guess that too.

765
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: I think the knixt situation is the fact that they

766
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: stuck for so long and the way that. It's all

767
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: about the way a fan base sees a player. And

768
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: I think from two thousand to twenty ten, before he

769
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: got there, they stunk. He got there, they're relevant even

770
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: if they didn't win a lot, and then he laughed

771
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: and they were bad, and so they embraced him. He

772
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: really really embraced them. And I do see that even

773
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: if it's a pretty exclusive club, especially because they haven't

774
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: won a lot in their history. I think he could.

775
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: I think he'll get there. I think he'll probably get both.

776
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: Even though it was just six plus years with the

777
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: Knicks and seven plus with the Nuggets, I could see

778
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: both well.

779
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: Like ver, similar to the Knicks, before Mellow showed up,

780
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: they were bad. Yeah, they were never in the postseason.

781
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: He shows up there suddenly in the playoffs. Every year

782
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: they go to the conference finals to one year now,

783
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: it ended poorly in the sense that like, yeah, he left,

784
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: he did, you know, he didn't want to be there.

785
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: He wanted to be in New York. Some of that

786
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: was family related reasons, the payday obviously, just to play

787
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden. There's that. I think I'll remember Mellow.

788
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: This is going to sound weird, but like as the

789
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: ultimate winner that never won an NBA ring. Of course,

790
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: he came up short in that regard, you know, didn't

791
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: even go to the finals, but an ultimate winner because

792
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: he won everywhere else, obviously his loan year at Syracuse,

793
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: which is one of the most iconic like college seasons

794
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: for a freshman ever. So he does that, and then

795
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: he wins all these Olympic gold medals too, and you

796
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: can be like, oh, who cares, Like, you know, you're

797
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: on these dream team like teams you should win. But

798
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: he was like generally like one of the best players

799
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: on those teams. You also got like a different melow

800
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: on those Olympic squads where like he was like more

801
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: focused on playing defense that game, that style suited him

802
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: in terms of course just scoring and getting his shots.

803
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: And I saw Sam Quinn say this, I didn't know this.

804
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: I'll make it a trivia question for you guys from

805
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: CBS Sports. The NBA started sending players to the Olympics

806
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: in ninety two. Since then, only three players have won

807
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: a gold medal and an NCAA championship without having won

808
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: an NBA title, So it's mellow. And two other guys

809
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: won a championship title and a gold medal can you

810
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: name him? And didn't win obviously in the NBA, and

811
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: there are they're iconic.

812
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: Players banking nice plant, look at you, guys, Bang one two.

813
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing created the club in nineteen ninety two, Grant

814
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Hill joined it in ninety six, and Mellow completed the

815
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: trio in winning a bunch of gold medals. As I

816
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: said in eight twelve and sixteen, Yeah, just wild so

817
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: one on every level, and unfortunately not the NBA one

818
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: which matters. You know. He falls in with your Barclays

819
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: and your Stockton's and guys like that. Great cop.

820
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: Yeah for Mellow and Ewing got his jersey retired by

821
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 4: the name now. Obviously, Patrick Ewing played ninety percent of

822
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: his career with the Knicks.

823
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: They went really far with him, farther than Mello ever did.

824
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: But I think definitely she'd have his number retired by

825
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: the Nuggets.

826
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Just retire fifteen twice. Who cares?

827
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: It does not matter to me at all. It's just

828
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: hanging up there now. We know nobody's gonna wear for

829
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: fifteen and for the Knicks, I kind of think they will.

830
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: He put the Knicks back on the map and made

831
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: them matter at least a little bit. And the best

832
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: that the Knicks have been in the past two decades

833
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 4: has been with Mellow as their star.

834
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. If they were really really good

835
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: between two thousand and twenty ten before he got there,

836
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: then maybe it's different. But they've been so bad for

837
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: so long that had that's that's got that's something he

838
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: has going for him in terms of retiring it. We're

839
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: Raptors fans. It's similar to Chris Bosh for an era.

840
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: He did a lot when he was with the Raptors.

841
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: He left and you know, you look back at his accolades.

842
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: He was the best player for a long time on

843
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: that team. Do you want to retire that? Nicks especially

844
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: because even what's different than Bosh is that Melo went

845
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: back and embraced embraced the organization. He was just there

846
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. So so with that, there's a

847
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: love fest there.

848
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. One more trivia question. Why not Mellow spent the

849
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: first thirteen years of his career playing for the Nuggets

850
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: and the Knicks. In all that time, he had three

851
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: All Star teammates. Okay, first thirteen years again on Denver

852
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: and New York. Can you name the three All Star

853
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: teammates that Melo played.

854
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: With made the All Star Game win.

855
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: He was Iverson correct, Tyson Chandler correct. With the Knicks,

856
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: he averaged ten point four points per game when he

857
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: made it.

858
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: Phillips make it.

859
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Look at you guys, Look at this, we guys one

860
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: two game. You guys are running right now. This is great.

861
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's our generation. I know, head band generations. True,

862
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: you should know it. Billips, Iverson and Tyson Chandler the

863
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: only teammates he had in that very long span there

864
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: with a lot of successful seasons, not going far as

865
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: they would have liked, but always in the playoffs, sometimes

866
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: winning series here and there, the one run in nine.

867
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you.

868
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: Go back and watch Mellow highlights the way we've been doing. Uh,

869
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: And you see he was a little under manned a

870
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: lot of the time. Compared it to like a Lebron team,

871
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: you know, with the Heat they had three All Stars,

872
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: multiple Hall of Famers, and then Mellow's running out there

873
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: with like young Porzingis Jose Calderon at the end of

874
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: his career. Now, a lot of that was because Mellow

875
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 4: wanted to sign a gigantic dial true with the Knicks.

876
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: Mellow also forced the trade to the Knicks from the

877
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: Nuggets when he could have just signed there in the postseason.

878
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: They could have kept all those young guys Wilson, Chandler

879
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: and Gallinari. They could have built a really nice squad,

880
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 4: but Mellow wanted to be.

881
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: The top dog. It hurt their cap sheet.

882
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why they didn't have quite as deep a

883
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: team as a as a Heat squad would. But definitely

884
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: Mellow was going into those not as the favorite and

885
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: not winning.

886
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: And one of those future pick swaps. I believe it

887
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: was in that Mellow Denver trade back in the day

888
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: ended up being Jamal Murray. Yep. How perfectly timed is

889
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: all of that with him go off in the Conference finals,

890
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: him being that pick in that deal that moved Mellow

891
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to New York. That's wild. Also this point from Jeff Stotts,

892
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: who does a great job at in street clothes. He

893
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: noted that Mello's durability remains one of his most overlooked

894
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: traits too. He finished his career on the record here

895
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: with over one hundred injuries or illnesses, including multiple surgeries

896
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: on his left knee, his elbow surgery. Because you know,

897
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: how they track all this stuff or he does. But

898
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: despite all this, like I said, all of these injuries.

899
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: He had a broken hand, he had a shoulder issue,

900
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: heast had a million ankle sprains, as you probably do

901
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: if you're an NBA player, But he only missed one

902
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one games due to injury over a

903
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: very long career. He ranks top twenty five all time

904
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: in career minutes played. So I thought that was an

905
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: interesting thought. I don't think of Mellow that way. Sort

906
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: of not an iron man, but quite durable, very durable,

907
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: and that part of that is his size. This guy

908
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: was a big ass dude, and I always remember him

909
00:42:53,880 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: screaming for his rebounds too. Yeah, that's really good, complete nonsense.

910
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: He's just yelling at his teammates only because he's close

911
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: to the rim.

912
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, just doing it for the bit.

913
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: Even in his Blazers days, he was doing it. Yes, whoa,

914
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: that's pretty late. It's the one of those numbers, I guess.

915
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: But you said injuries and illnesses, yeah, and that he missed.

916
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 3: I consider myself an NBA sickle, but I can't remember

917
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: a sickness that he missed the game from. I'm going deep.

918
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure it's on the list. You

919
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: don't think he ever had a migraine or a stomach ache?

920
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it.

921
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: South Beach flew, Yeah, that probably.

922
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was such an iron man.

923
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Little too much wine. Do you have a favorite Mellow

924
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: moment or game, or shot or anything? As we wrap

925
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: this up?

926
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: A few stick out to me. The two thousand and

927
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: nine Western Conference Finals. That was like Mellow took it

928
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: upon himself to be guarding Kobe. Him and Kobe going

929
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: head to head against each other. That's one of an

930
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: early Mellow moment. I definitely think about sixty two in

931
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: the garden. That's pretty pretty awesome. Olympic Mellow was big

932
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: for me. Yeah as well. I'm pretty sure when he

933
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: stopped playing for Team USA, he was the eating score

934
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: in the program gets Kevin Durant now after the twenty

935
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: twenty Olympics. But Olympic Mellow was definitely a thing. And

936
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: then there's like random off court stuff. The hats of

937
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 4: course for some reason, like his Chocolate Milk commercial always

938
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 4: sticks in my mind. I guess he was a durable player.

939
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 4: Chocolate Milk works saying Carmelo Anthony, very fun, the mellow drop.

940
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: It was good to have him around. You got any

941
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: other moments.

942
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he went through good ones. Yeah, the Olympics,

943
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: part of the Redeemed team with Kobe, that team in

944
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: Brazil where he was going to the favelas when people

945
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: were saying, don't don't go to the favelas, it's dangerous

946
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: out there. He was just going on his own. I

947
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: saw Aldridge write about that, very very cool stuff in

948
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen in Rio. Four times that he went, and

949
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: so he's leading the US program in games played still,

950
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: so he's the Olympic mellow is always was always fun

951
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 3: every four years to look at a guy who was

952
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: willing to give the ball up to somebody else and

953
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: be a different type of player than he was in

954
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: the NBA because of who he was playing with.

955
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: I'll definitely remember the random January game where he goes

956
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: for sixty two, setting the Knicks record there against the

957
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: Charlotte Bobcats. I believe it was in twenty fourteen. I

958
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: think they were the Cats. I remember watching it here

959
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: in Atlanta in my old apartment and as that that

960
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: point total ticked up up up, you know, the tech

961
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: start going. Everybody starts going. You gotta check this out.

962
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: These guys on fire right now, so you know that

963
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: one will we'll live in my memory. But Mellow was

964
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: a bucket, and let's hear yours. I'm sure we're missing

965
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of games, shots moments. Oh you didn't bring

966
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: up to the time he hit a couple of big

967
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: shots against the Bulls, right, he must have slipped my mind.

968
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Did he hit the game tying three and then he

969
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: hit the also the game like almost from the same spot.

970
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: Think it was?

971
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

972
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: A lot of people saying the three to the head

973
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: of Mellow coming off or coming out of the stands

974
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 4: catching a ball and doing the fake shot. Very funny

975
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: that it seemed like Mellow's career was over at that point.

976
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: Then he went on to play a few more seasons

977
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: after that.

978
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: All right, some coaching updates, if you want to call

979
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: it that, let me throw them at you, guys. Reports

980
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: that the Raptors met with Steve Nash Tasks to discuss

981
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: the coaching job. The Raptors are meeting with every person

982
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: in the world you ever coached. We want to talk

983
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: to you if we want to hear what you gotta say.

984
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: Have you ever been on TV? Come on over?

985
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Obviously let go of

986
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets this season. That happened ye seven games

987
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: and I want to say it was very very early.

988
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: But uh, he had had a tough hand to deal

989
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: with there in Brooklyn, no doubt, a little more complicated

990
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: I think than other coaches in their in their first

991
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: in But do you think there's anything to this the

992
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: idea of Steve Nash?

993
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: I think of what is he doing? And don't you

994
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: want to chill out? It's a good job. I'm sure

995
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: it's a great organization top to bottom. He just let

996
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: God let go take some are in R time I

997
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: would say a year. Perhaps you think it's.

998
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: Athletes, man, they're built.

999
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: They're built. Man.

1000
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: They can't turn it off. You can't stop playing song,

1001
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: play stretch, I can't can't stop. Does he's stretching the

1002
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: whole time? I swear to my Instagram feed is always

1003
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: popping up some Steve Nash like product about stretching.

1004
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay with limber, Okay, can he can do other stuff?

1005
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 3: Head coaching is stressful. You can't even stretch while you're coaching.

1006
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: That's what pickleball was invented for old guys to go

1007
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: do something else. Yeah, go do Yeah.

1008
00:47:52,840 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: Dominated it's got that great touch win it all going

1009
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: to be a realistic coaching candidate.

1010
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't I think it could be a realistic Yeah,

1011
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 3: if he wants it.

1012
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: So you think Steve Nash is a good head coach

1013
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: or you just don't. We just don't know at all

1014
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: because of again a very weird situation there with that's

1015
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the question. Is Steve Nash a good coach? No one knows.

1016
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: It's impossible to know because from the second he got

1017
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: to Brooklyn they were saying this guy ain't the coach

1018
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: pretty much, so he kind of You need to see

1019
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 4: him with a non star team to know if Steve

1020
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: Nash is a good coach. But are you willing to

1021
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: take that risk if it's your team, it's the non

1022
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: star team.

1023
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, I guess

1024
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: he was one game away from conference finals in his

1025
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: first season as a head coach, and over No, he

1026
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: is a good No, he's a very good record. I

1027
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: think in terms of regular season performance.

1028
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: This would be his second time was so he's I'm

1029
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: sure he's learned something was there something lacking in x'es

1030
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: and o's in Brooklyn when he was just basically allowed

1031
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: to say, Hey Kevin Rank, go do this. Hey Kyrie,

1032
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: go do this. Maybe, but we haven't had him had

1033
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: to see him do that, so he would be a

1034
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: different coach, I think yea in his second stint with

1035
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: a different type of team without the superstars.

1036
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: We'll see the Bucks. They have also narrowed their head

1037
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: coaching searched down to three names. According to Woje, We've

1038
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: got ex Toronto coach Nick Nurse, Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson,

1039
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: and Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin. Those three coaches will be

1040
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: part of the conversations with the franchise leadership in the

1041
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: coming days. Nurse, Atkinson, and Griffin. It sounds like it's

1042
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those three now. Nurse is also

1043
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: tied to the Sun's job and the Sixers job, so

1044
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: he is the bell of the ball? Is Nick Nurse

1045
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: with his guitar? Who wants to dance with me? Can

1046
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: you dance with someone while they play guitar? Yeah, you

1047
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: got to dance. You can grind behind like Steven Tyler

1048
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Joe Perry.

1049
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 3: Okay, they figured it out Er Smith is coming to town.

1050
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: Let's go see Giannis is gonna win MVP. If Nick

1051
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: Nurse is the coach, it's every single minute.

1052
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: He's going to play a lot more minutes and the

1053
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: stats will be crazy and the team will be good

1054
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: because they will be geared towards winning in the regular season.

1055
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: I think that the next Bucks coach should probably be

1056
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 4: an offense forward coach. Somebody's got a little bit of

1057
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 4: creativity on that end and that fits the bill. Whether

1058
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 4: it's the Nurse or Kenny Atkinson. I'm guessing they would

1059
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: choose Nurse ahead of Atkinson just because he's coming off

1060
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: of a head coaching job, but.

1061
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: Who knows, well, Kenny deserves another chance. He was fantastic

1062
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: with the Brooklyn Nets, and in a team situation where

1063
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 3: he was getting the most out of role players. I

1064
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: think he would do a good job of getting more

1065
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 3: out of like the four, five, six, seven guys on

1066
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: that team. And yeah, he wants this position, I assume

1067
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 3: because he turned down the Charlotte position.

1068
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: He's trying to do the Steve Kerr move where Steve

1069
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Kerr was going to coach the new and was like, man,

1070
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: maybe coach the Warriors. That works out well for Steve Kerr,

1071
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: and that's what Kenny's trying to do here with like

1072
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: he was going to be the Hornets coach. Yeah, and

1073
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I'm gonna go back and stick

1074
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: with the Warriors. Maybe a better job. All open up.

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Speaker 3: He's right, it's possible right here, this is a good time.

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Speaker 3: So I think he would be a great hire Ken

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Speaker 3: or Nick. What about Adrian ken Nick and Adrian I

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Speaker 3: don't think they would go to a rookie head coach

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Speaker 3: and Adrian Griffin, but maybe considering how far he's come

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Speaker 3: along in the process.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been a steady climber here and talking about

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Speaker 1: head coaching candidates. Four years on Nurse's staff. He has

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Speaker 1: been with the Raps. He had stops in OKC, Orlando, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and he started his NBA coaching career as an assistant

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Speaker 1: for oh come on the Milwaukee Bucks. Oh okay back

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Speaker 1: in eight I remember ten. Yeah, so Amy, he's got

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Speaker 1: some ties to the franchise, but he's been a long

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Speaker 1: time assistant coach and one of these days he's going

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Speaker 1: to get a crack at it. I'm with you, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure it's going to be this Milwaukee team. And

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Speaker 1: really it's like where does nurse want to coach? If

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Speaker 1: if he has these offers from Phoenix, from Philly and Milwaukee, Like,

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Speaker 1: where is he going to go Detroit? We think they're

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Speaker 1: going young And then obviously it leaves the Tronto Raptors,

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Speaker 1: as we talked about with them talking to everybody, I

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Speaker 1: can't wait? Are you what are you flying up? Do

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00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: you want to fly up together? When we do our

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Speaker 1: interviews with mession, Oh you're not.

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Speaker 3: I'm going separate?

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Speaker 1: Are you before me or after?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Put in a good word for me and I'll put.

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Speaker 3: In a good word for you.

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Speaker 1: You guys should do it like.

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00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 4: If I get the job, you'll be on my staff.

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00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 4: And if you get the job, I hopeful you gotta

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Speaker 4: do it stepbrother's style. When if he sits in front,

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00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: when if he sits.

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Speaker 1: In back and pops your head out to the side

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00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: like that idea. Of course, we got to take our

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00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: final break and when we come back, a couple tweets

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Speaker 1: of the night, don't go anywhere. Hey, we're back. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to tweet of the night.

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Speaker 5: Tweet up and now wow, a couple of tweets of

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Speaker 5: the night for you both Carmelo Anthony related because he

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00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 5: was popping on Twitter last night and all of yesterday.

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 4: Our first one comes from Dragonfly Jones, who tweets, I

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00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 4: can't overstate how big of a moment this was. This

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00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: was twenty thirteen. Celebs weren't getting into trenches on Twitter

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Speaker 4: like that. Back then, Mellow and Rihanna were the lone

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Speaker 4: spartans on Twitter taking on the masses. Back then, Mellow

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00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 4: ran so KD could fly. Dragonfly Jones is referencing Carmelo's

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Speaker 4: legendary tweet from December twenty thirteen. Somebody tweets about how

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Speaker 4: Mellow didn't win a ring. You kill me, man, I've

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Speaker 4: been rooting for you all the time. You always disappoint me,

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: to which Carmelo responds, I didn't ask for your glaze

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Speaker 4: donut face ass.

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Speaker 1: To root for me wedding. So a month later he

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Speaker 1: scored sixty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that.

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00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: That guy was cheering. Yeah, I bet he was.

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Speaker 4: That glaze donut face ass one of the best NBA insults.

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Speaker 3: That was the best time on Twitter.

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00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that definitely definitely when people had to like name

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00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 4: themselves the real something. The real shack isn't there, like

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00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: is it Scott Van Pelt the opposite, not the real Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Vince Carter was a real Vince You

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00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: Grant Hill maybe it was Grant.

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: Hill, Yeah, maybe Malvernie. I know he was the real moverb.

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Speaker 4: But you do see a few of those remnants. But

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00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: you had to be on Twitter early to get the

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: real name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the celebrities. Honestly, we're doing it differently back then, totally,

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00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 3: absolutely true. It was a little bit more raw. They

1145
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: took it personally, and Mellow had some some great one

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00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 3: the donut glazed face. I didn't ask your donut glaze face.

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00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: And he also, I didn't realize this and look and

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00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: seeing all those moments when he h commented on Kevin

1149
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: Durant's profile pick on Facebook a long time ago, he said,

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00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: he said, your milk dud head ass. L m f A. Oh,

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00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: it was a very round face of a profile pick,

1152
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: your milk dead head ass. It did kind of look

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: like a milk killing it. Mello killed it.

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Speaker 4: Bello Mello likes an emerging technology. He considered himself a

1155
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: bit of a businessman. Yeah, away from the court, so

1156
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Speaker 4: you know he's hopping on Twitter in the early days

1157
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 4: to talk trash with People'll you know he's gonna joke

1158
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: with Kevin Durant on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: He like he started a.

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Speaker 4: Snapchat when he was on TMUSA in twenty sixty. He's like,

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00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: I'll make you out with all these young kids, I

1162
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 4: gotta start a snapchat, which I think is very funny.

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00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: And as it turns out, Mellow has always been able

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Speaker 4: to dish it out just the way he took criticism.

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Speaker 4: Because here's our second tweet. The night comes from Fred Katz,

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Speaker 4: our buddy over here at the Athletics Subscribe at the

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Speaker 4: Athletic dot com Slash no Dunks. Fred tweeted when I

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Speaker 4: covered Mellow in OKC, I had to write from locker

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Speaker 4: room postgame to get stories in for a ten to

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Speaker 4: thirty deadline, So at like ten twenty seven, Mellow would

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00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 4: come over and heckle me for fun. One time he

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00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: pointed at the screen and said that sentence is trash.

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Speaker 1: Also, you gotta type faster than that. I love this.

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00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: That's good. We hear all the time. How would you

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00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: like it if I came to your job and heckled you? Yeah,

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00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't that sounds awesome. That s sucks cats. That

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00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: sounds trash. That's good. There was also a tweet from

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Speaker 1: Fred Katz about the time he shared a story about

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: Mellow trying to convince him Joe DiMaggio is Jewish. Yes,

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00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: they got into the libraries. It was cool to see,

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00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: like a lot of the OKC beat writers or people

1182
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: that cover the team, along with definitely Blazers people like that,

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00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: just like enjoyed having Mellow around those squads at the

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00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: end of his career for that one year in OKAC

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Speaker 1: and then a couple of years there in Portland, and

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00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: everyone like just always pointing out how cool he is too.

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00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: He does feel like one of the coolest players in history.

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Speaker 1: So those are some some great tweets there.

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Speaker 3: That sense is.

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Speaker 4: Trash, that's one of seventy five greatest NBA players. Is

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Speaker 4: just watching you type. You gotta type faster than that, Fred,

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00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: The pressure to get it in, it's awesome. You know,

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Speaker 4: cats hit that deadline though.

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: Of course, of course he would never keep people waiting. No, no,

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Speaker 1: for sure, All right, great tweets of the night. Let's

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Speaker 1: call it there, tell us whether or not it was

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: a classic by leaving us a five star rating and review.

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Speaker 1: If you're a podcast listener hitting that like button and

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Speaker 1: subscribing if you're watching on YouTube, either live or later.

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00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it, and we should have said

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Speaker 1: thanks to the Denver Nuggets, I guess also the Lakers

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00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: in a weird way. No basketball on Tomorrow night, which

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00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: is important because we have three hours of Survivor to watch.

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00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: It's the season finale of Survivor forty four. Maybe Yo Kich,

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: maybe Murray, maybe Malone. Maybe there's Survivor fans, and they

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00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: were like, we got to wrap this up. We got

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Speaker 1: to open up the schedule on Wednesday night. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: very much. I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I very much appreciate them taking care of business time.

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Speaker 1: So does too. There's probe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff is very very happy he didn't want to

1213
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: go head to head with the Western Conference finals. But

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Speaker 4: if I'm ranking Denver Nuggets personnel who are likely Survivor fans,

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00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: Mike Malon's got to come in pretty high.

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Speaker 1: Oh really you think so? He's he's been around. He's

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Speaker 1: been around for the entirety of the runup Survivor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why number two to me would be Jeff Green.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yah. Also, old uncles love Survivor and then

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Speaker 1: Bruce Brown I would throw in the mix. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why I'd like Survivor.

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Speaker 3: Be a great player, great social player.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, we have a week off before the Nuggets

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00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: that leaves playing in the finals. Somebody in Denver start

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00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: asking all these guys, Hey, do you like Survivor? Would

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00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: you put them?

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Speaker 3: It's on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get at it here, all right, do the research.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks so much for joining us. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have

1231
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Speaker 1: a great time, turn up. Love you guys.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, thanks for joining us. And remember, with a week

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: off before the finals, probably the NBA is going to

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: have a skills challenge this weekend Pro Bowl. Probably, why not?

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 3: What are we waiting for?

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00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: Horse Horse, Let's go back to Mike Conley's gym, dodgeball, pickleball,

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00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: just get in playing pick a week of just doing,

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00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: just do some stuff. That's what we'll be doing here

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00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: on no dunk, don't you worry, don't go anywhere. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: embrace the day.

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Speaker 4: H