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Speaker 1: Indeed, we do big day for American domestic politics. Hard
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Speaker 1: We're also taking a look at the way that Trump
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Speaker 1: at that. Ron DeSantis is receiving a participation trophy in Iowa.
Speaker 1: Let's see if he can surpass expectations and get back
Speaker 1: in the game. At the same time, we're also marking
Speaker 1: one hundred days of Israel's assault on Gaza. Will breakdown
Speaker 1: the very latest from you. There some pretty stunning comments
Speaker 1: from Netanyahu about how this is our war toi and
Speaker 1: in line with that, we actually, it appears, have suffered
Speaker 1: our first casualties in that war in our.
Speaker 4: Backing up of Israel. So a lot to break down
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Speaker 1: Huge developments with regards to Israel and the Gaza Strip.
Speaker 1: We have now passed one hundred days since October seventh,
Speaker 1: one hundred days of Israel's assault on the Gaza Strip.
Speaker 1: Let's go out and put some of the overall statistics
Speaker 1: just so we have a sense. You know, Euromed monitor
Speaker 1: they've been tracking the number of deaths, the number of casualties,
Speaker 1: number of journalists killed, and they actually had a headline
Speaker 1: that in one hundred days of war there are one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Palestinians who have either been killed, injured, or
Speaker 1: who are missing. Now the top line members here in
Speaker 1: terms of killed, and they include in this number those
Speaker 1: who are presumed dead under the rubble, which is why
Speaker 1: their numbers a little higher than what you see like
Speaker 1: from the UN Thirty one thousand, four hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: seven killed, twelve thousand plus of those are children, six
Speaker 1: thousand plus of those are women, Some close to twenty
Speaker 1: nine thousand of those are considered to be civilians or
Speaker 1: estimated to be civilians. You have nearly two million Palace
Speaker 1: Didians who have been displaced. The amount of destruction to
Speaker 1: buildings and civilian infrastructure in the Gaza strip is really,
Speaker 1: you know, difficult to comprehend. It's on the level has
Speaker 1: surpassed even the level of something like the Allied bombings
Speaker 1: of Dresden. Nearly seventy thousand homes have been destroyed. Almost
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand homes have been partially destroyed, three hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty schools damaged, one thousand, six hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: one industrial facilities damage two hundred and thirty nine mosques damaged,
Speaker 1: three churches damaged, and you can see also the toll
Speaker 1: on healthcare, professional, civil defense workers and on the press,
Speaker 1: so horrific numbers.
Speaker 4: This is as of January fourteenth.
Speaker 1: So as of yesterday, any way that you put it.
Speaker 1: At the same time, you know something we have been
Speaker 1: tracking closely here, especially in the wake of that UN report,
Speaker 1: that half of all residents of the Gaza Strip, half
Speaker 1: of all Palestinians in the Gaza Strip are starving, and
Speaker 1: ninety percent have gone regularly gone days without having a
Speaker 1: single thing to eat. So that is the context for
Speaker 1: these videos. Let's put this up on the screen that
Speaker 1: we can see. This is in northern Gaza. These are
Speaker 1: people who have come out effectively of hiding, risking their lives,
Speaker 1: trying to find food with the expectation that there is
Speaker 1: a food truck delivery. And you can see them all
Speaker 1: clustered here, and what happens the Israeli forces, the IDF
Speaker 1: begins firing on these people. That is why they are fleeing,
Speaker 1: as they are out risking their lives in an attempt
Speaker 1: just to find food and avoid starvation. So it is
Speaker 1: truly a horrifying situation. Reminder, this is an official representative
Speaker 1: of the Israeli government of this agency called Kogat, which
Speaker 1: is responsible basically for coordinating humanitarian aid. This was a
Speaker 1: quote that this individual gave to Haretz, who said there
Speaker 1: is no hunger in Gaza. There were stockpiles of food
Speaker 1: in Gaza. Don't forget that this is an Arab Gazan
Speaker 1: population whose DNA is to hoard certainly.
Speaker 4: When it comes to food.
Speaker 1: So these are the sort of just like blatantly racist
Speaker 1: and denialist rhetoric that is coming out of official Israeli
Speaker 1: agencies with regards to the level of hunger sagur that
Speaker 1: is being experienced right now in the Gaza strip, which
Speaker 1: experts are saying the hunger and the disease may ultimately
Speaker 1: claim far more lives than the bullets.
Speaker 3: In the bottom. I mean that's usually the case.
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, think back to some of these conflicts,
Speaker 2: kind of tried and true strategy. I think the problem
Speaker 2: right now for the Israelis is that the more and
Speaker 2: more that this is happening is that they get claim
Speaker 2: it's in the.
Speaker 3: Midst of a lot of the war.
Speaker 2: So for example, you know, previously some of the numbers
Speaker 2: and all that you showed that was during actual like
Speaker 2: bombing campaigns. Now, as I understand that a lot of
Speaker 2: that has been reduced, I'm not saying it hasn't happened obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, these people were fired upon. But now we're
Speaker 2: getting into the big occupation questions. And while all of
Speaker 2: that happens and things shake out, there's all this reporting
Speaker 2: right now between the US and what they're exactly the
Speaker 2: plan that they're trying to push it involve. It's a
Speaker 2: Kocamane scheme involving Saudi Arabia recognition, Palestinian statehood, American dollars,
Speaker 2: and much more. Is that this acute hunger situation is
Speaker 2: going to remain the biggest center of gravity, and it
Speaker 2: also will determine a lot of the follow on events,
Speaker 2: especially because they can't stop the images that continue to
Speaker 2: come out. And I mean already we're seeing degradation kin
Speaker 2: to Mogadishu and Somalia, you know, back in the nineties,
Speaker 2: and the same problems are going to a rise that
Speaker 2: happened at that time. If everybody wants to remember, as
Speaker 2: we had a global crisis, you know, the Somalis that
Speaker 2: descended into complete civil war, and there are all these
Speaker 2: different warlords. The UN was trying to make inroads, and
Speaker 2: the entire US mission was to try and support the
Speaker 2: World Food Program tended into Blackhawk down. Eventually we withdrew
Speaker 2: Somalia never really has been the same since the question
Speaker 2: two is hear about what is going to constitute in Gazli?
Speaker 2: Eventually this will consolidate and always does to control for resources.
Speaker 2: So will hamas you know, rise, Well, we have an
Speaker 2: insurgency that battles it out with another group. What about
Speaker 2: these Palestinian authority officials? Who's going to take you know, responsibility?
Speaker 2: These Raelis themselves are going to remain like a security
Speaker 2: holding where they maintain obviously a blockade on some of
Speaker 2: the humanitarian aid and all that.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll cut a deal with a certain militia.
Speaker 2: I actually think this is where things get more messy
Speaker 2: and more out of control than before. And and I
Speaker 2: mean we've been saying that now for quite some time.
Speaker 2: But the hunger situation, the food situation, and generally the
Speaker 2: questions around the big meta questions around occupation and who
Speaker 2: has administration and control for this is more terrifying as
Speaker 2: we move into like low grade more and low grade operations.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, all things on the horizon
Speaker 2: say that a new Israeli military campaign may mount in
Speaker 2: the South. Yeah, and that could kick things off into
Speaker 2: actually a whole other direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. Actually, if we could go ahead
Speaker 1: and put up on the screen that Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: report about how the Israelis are planning to seize that
Speaker 1: last Gaza border that they don't control.
Speaker 4: This is the Egyptian border, the Rafa.
Speaker 1: Crossing that we have been discussing quite a lot, and
Speaker 1: this is okay. This is a problem for a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons. Number one, it is obviously a massive infringement
Speaker 1: on any sort of idea of Palestinian control of the
Speaker 1: Gaza strip. That's the number one, and that has long
Speaker 1: been mostly a fantasy anyway. It also is really infringing
Speaker 1: potentially on the sovereignty of Egypt, but also in terms
Speaker 1: of the humanitarian crisis. So after people were forced out
Speaker 1: of the north and the north was bombed to hell
Speaker 1: in Gaza, they moved to the south. Many people move
Speaker 1: to con Unis was one of the major cities in
Speaker 1: the South that people moved to. What con Unis has
Speaker 1: now been bombed to hell and many people have fled
Speaker 1: from there as well, where have they gone. Over a
Speaker 1: million Gozzens, and remember there's only roughly two point two
Speaker 1: million gozens in total, are now clustered in Rafa, in
Speaker 1: the very place where the Israeli government and the Israeli
Speaker 1: military are saying they are planning their next defensive. So
Speaker 1: we're hearing all this rhetoric about oh, we're shifting to
Speaker 1: another phase and it's going to be lower grade, et cetera, etc.
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen that, but this is a massive,
Speaker 1: massive risk. In this Wall Street Journal report, they say
Speaker 1: an offensive in the area will be complicated militarily due
Speaker 1: to the presence of more than a million Palestinians who
Speaker 1: have fled the rest of the Strip have concentrated in
Speaker 1: the area.
Speaker 4: Most of them are.
Speaker 1: Packed into the city of Rafa adjacent to the border,
Speaker 1: or camping in the areas along the border.
Speaker 4: Even a limited.
Speaker 1: Military operation occupies stretch of land a few hundred yards wide,
Speaker 1: would require Israeli forces to push through Rafa City, which
Speaker 1: straddles the border, and areas where the displaced people have
Speaker 1: gathered in tent camps. Security analysts are concerned such an
Speaker 1: operation would deepen the humanitarian crisis, so they are far
Speaker 1: from finished. All of these supposed US pressure, which has
Speaker 1: always been nothing but rhetorical, has obviously not shifted or
Speaker 1: changed their plans whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Ye also appears crystal that this would be a violation
Speaker 2: of the nineteen seventy nine piece treaty between Israel and Egypt.
Speaker 2: They actually specifically in the treaty it limits the number
Speaker 2: of troops between the both nations in the border areas.
Speaker 2: The other problem is is that in terms of tunnels
Speaker 2: and all of that, I mean, this is the main
Speaker 2: way that weapons and all these other goods get into Gaza.
Speaker 2: It's like the number one highway for Hamas and all
Speaker 2: of that. So theoretically, I mean, the fighting there could
Speaker 2: be worse and also is awful because you got and
Speaker 2: more of the civilians that are packed into the small area.
Speaker 2: And it is also you know, the main way that
Speaker 2: humanitarian aid has been getting into the Gaza strip the
Speaker 2: limited amount that's been let in, So it could be
Speaker 2: even further, you know, of a disaster. This one actually
Speaker 2: probably bears the most risk into a spillover conflict because
Speaker 2: it involves the Egyptians and the Egyptian military is already
Speaker 2: not happy about this. They think that, I think correctly,
Speaker 2: that the likely they think that if all things, you know,
Speaker 2: we're able, if these rails will do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: They think that the Gosins would just be pushed out
Speaker 2: into Egypt, that Egypt does not want it. They say,
Speaker 2: they would literally go to war if something like that
Speaker 2: were to happen. So then the question is about US
Speaker 2: diplomacy and the pressure that we may exert on Egypt
Speaker 2: and more. We don't know yet, you know, what this
Speaker 2: will look like and if this will even be allowed
Speaker 2: to proceed, you know, if there is some sort of
Speaker 2: risk of a broader war, or if they'll you know,
Speaker 2: openly continue the Middle Finger to America, continue anyway, and
Speaker 2: we could find ourselves in a serious situation, you know,
Speaker 2: even just as serious as the Red See which we have.
Speaker 3: To talk about.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're already in a broader war. It's just
Speaker 1: a question of how hot that is going to get.
Speaker 1: And just one note on the tunnels, because I know,
Speaker 1: like people understandably think about these as just like a
Speaker 1: nefarious way for Hamas to get weapons in et cetera.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind that for you know, years and
Speaker 1: years now, Israel has imposed a blockade on the Gaza
Speaker 1: Strip and they have very precisely limited what goods are
Speaker 1: allowed to come in.
Speaker 4: And it's not just like grenades.
Speaker 1: That they block, Oh yes, it's things like potato chips
Speaker 1: and candy, and it's just completely at their whim what
Speaker 1: is able to come into the Gaza Strip through official channels. Previously,
Speaker 1: you know, they talked about putting them on effectively a
Speaker 1: starvation plus diet and controlling the caloric intake so that
Speaker 1: people would remain hungry, but not so bad that they
Speaker 1: would starve to death. That's a lot also of what's
Speaker 1: coming in through the tunnel, just so people are aware of,
Speaker 1: like the purpose of totality.
Speaker 3: Defend the mass tunnels.
Speaker 2: Actually, part of the problem with the tunnels was that
Speaker 2: because it was the only way to get stuff in.
Speaker 2: The way that these Hamask guys became phenomenally rich is
Speaker 2: that they control the black That's actually how they made
Speaker 2: the vast majority of their money was made on kind
Speaker 2: of controlling the racket in Gosil. You could, I mean
Speaker 2: the images of their houses and all that are now public.
Speaker 2: You don't make that because you're smuggling in weapons. The
Speaker 2: weapons are what you're able to buy because you can
Speaker 2: smuggle in potato, chips and TV and in many cases
Speaker 2: like medicine and other things.
Speaker 1: Building materials build after the various mowing of the lawn.
Speaker 3: They're just like the Taliban. They're like a drug cartel
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 2: They're like a criminal cartel that also happens to have
Speaker 2: like a militant arm. That's how they were able to
Speaker 2: maintain control for such a long time. And a large
Speaker 2: some of that was downstream of the blockade, which is
Speaker 2: part of the problem. And I think I think though,
Speaker 2: you know, they're going to go through and they're going
Speaker 2: to try and clear at least some of these tunnels,
Speaker 2: but you know, if and they haven't really done this yet,
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of tunnel clearing operations that a
Speaker 2: lot of people expected. We will see if they're going
Speaker 2: to try and to take control, to seize control, because
Speaker 2: this continues to be probably the main way that you're
Speaker 2: able to have any sort of communication back and forth
Speaker 2: for the Hamas leaders to be able to get in
Speaker 2: and out and have any sort of mobility, at least
Speaker 2: it have been in the past, you know, including Iran
Speaker 2: and anything that they've been able to send to other
Speaker 2: countries they've been able to support Hamas. So I'm not
Speaker 2: quite sure, you know, what it's going to look like,
Speaker 2: but it could be a nightmare.
Speaker 3: It really could.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we haven't yet seen some of
Speaker 2: the worst nightmares military scenarios play out with the tunnels
Speaker 2: and all that, but we could see it here.
Speaker 3: It's possible.
Speaker 1: I think it's also important to point out at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred days into the war, israel stated
Speaker 1: supposed goal of eradicating Hamas. By anyone's estimates, including their
Speaker 1: own very rosy estimates of how many Hamas fighters they've killed,
Speaker 1: nowhere close to achieving what they claimed their goal would
Speaker 1: ultimately be. And now we've said from the beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: citing people who are military analysts who have studied these
Speaker 1: sorts of groups, that the idea of eradicating or eliminating
Speaker 1: Kamas was always sort of preposterous because in addition to
Speaker 1: the estimated thirty thousand fighters they have, which again Israel
Speaker 1: doesn't even claim that they've come close to or even
Speaker 1: eliminated half of those Hamas fighters. In addition to that,
Speaker 1: this is a political system, it's a political ideology, and
Speaker 1: in fact, the more brutal israel Is, the more they
Speaker 1: starve people, the more they deny them medical care, the
Speaker 1: more kids you have getting amputations with no anesthetic, the
Speaker 1: more Hamas members you are creating, the more you are
Speaker 1: bolstering the Hamas ideology. And we have seen that very
Speaker 1: clearly with poles coming out of the West Bank. We've
Speaker 1: seen it very clearly. You know, in terms of the
Speaker 1: limited information that we're able to get out of the
Speaker 1: Gaza strip that this has actually strengthened Hamas. So if
Speaker 1: you look one hundred days in Israel hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to rescue a single hostage. Actually, they murdered their forces,
Speaker 1: murdered three of their own hostages because they thought they
Speaker 1: were a Palestinians. The only hostage exchanges came during a ceasefire, and.
Speaker 4: They were nowhere close.
Speaker 1: In fact, they've gone backwards in terms of their stated
Speaker 1: end of eradicating Hamas. And at the same time, we
Speaker 1: we've always been directly complicit, We've always been supplying Israel,
Speaker 1: but we just keep getting pulled more and more and
Speaker 1: more directly into this war. And I do mean directly
Speaker 1: into this war. And I'll talk about some likely casualties
Speaker 1: that we have just suffered. But here is bb netan
Speaker 1: Yahoo telling it is really outlet. And this is going
Speaker 1: back to D three guys telling it is really outlet.
Speaker 1: That when Tony Blinken, our Secretary of State, was there
Speaker 1: in Israel, he told him flat out that this is
Speaker 1: our war two which listen, frankly, looking at it, you
Speaker 1: can't really deny. Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 5: A few days ago I met the Secretary of State Blinken.
Speaker 5: I thanked him for the American assistance, and I said
Speaker 5: to him, we waged this war after these monsters butchered us.
Speaker 6: We do not stop. We do not.
Speaker 5: Stop until we eliminate the Ramas and bring back the hostages.
Speaker 5: And I also said, it's not just our war, it's
Speaker 5: your war as well. This is the war of the
Speaker 5: sons of light against the sons of darkness. This is
Speaker 5: against the axis of evil led by Iran and the
Speaker 5: Huthis and the Husbala and Haramas. And I added that
Speaker 5: I don't forget for one moment that in addition to
Speaker 5: the war in Gaza, in addition to bringing back their
Speaker 5: hostages and the inhabitants to their homes, both in the
Speaker 5: north and the South.
Speaker 6: We have an.
Speaker 5: Existential mission to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapon.
Speaker 3: That's my mission, that's our mission.
Speaker 5: And I said to the Secretary, blinking, this must be
Speaker 5: your supreme mission as well.
Speaker 1: There is so much there to break down. I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, just him blatantly saying this is our
Speaker 1: War II, which again I can't even disagree with at
Speaker 1: this point. Secondly, he is one of a number of
Speaker 1: Israeli officials who are thumbing their nose at the supposed
Speaker 1: concern that the Biden administration has expressed about the length
Speaker 1: of this war, about the indiscriminate bombing of this war,
Speaker 1: about the humanitarian crisis.
Speaker 4: He says there.
Speaker 1: Very clearly, we are going to do what we want
Speaker 1: to do. And finally, and he also talks again about
Speaker 1: the sons of light versus the suns of darkness. We
Speaker 1: see what the supposed sons of light have been doing
Speaker 1: to thousands and thousands, millions actually of civilians in the
Speaker 1: Gaza strip. And then he goes on to tell us
Speaker 1: what our foreign policy priorities should be with regard to Iran. Iran,
Speaker 1: who again, yes they have supported Humus, they were not
Speaker 1: involved in October seventh and bib. Netanyahu is here telling
Speaker 1: us what our foreign policy priorities should ultimately be. So
Speaker 1: there is a lot there sager to take issue with,
Speaker 1: and also very know again, you know, in this day
Speaker 1: and age, they should probably realize that we hear them
Speaker 1: when they're speaking in Hebrew as well, and like there
Speaker 1: is an ability to translate here, but the fact that
Speaker 1: this is for a and israelly Hebrew language audience, he
Speaker 1: clearly thinks that he's able to sort of like keep
Speaker 1: this from the American public.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's right.
Speaker 2: If you look at the headlines across America today, it's
Speaker 2: going to be Iowa and it's going to be the blizzard,
Speaker 2: and that's what the vast majority of people are. How
Speaker 2: many people are going to listen to a translated version. Actually,
Speaker 2: when I was in Israel, one thing I did notice
Speaker 2: they watch a lot of news. There's a very news
Speaker 2: consuming public. So really yeah, it's it's I mean, it
Speaker 2: makes sense. They're a nation like always either on the
Speaker 2: brink or currently involved in a war, so they're they're
Speaker 2: very closely monitoring.
Speaker 3: It's much smaller, you know, more homogenous.
Speaker 2: So anyway, my point being that there, he's much more
Speaker 2: likely to get his message across to the people he
Speaker 2: needs to save his ass and not get kicked out
Speaker 2: of office, as opposed to people who are in the
Speaker 2: US who have all kinds of different concerns. So I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily think it's probably you know, it's not the
Speaker 2: wrong move on his part because he's been able to
Speaker 2: basically get away with everything that he wants. The real question,
Speaker 2: you know, Chris, do we have the element from Axios? Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's put it up there. Please fix on the screen
Speaker 2: that just demonstrates here, like kind of what what US
Speaker 2: policy towards us out It's as Biden is frustrated and
Speaker 2: running out of patients with Netanyahu, US officials tells me,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like the ninety ninth story, now,
Speaker 2: you know, leaking behind the scenes. At a certain point,
Speaker 2: either back in or don't. And this is where it's like,
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Are we you know, it's unequivocal support on the back end,
Speaker 2: but then always covering our ass in the press. Either
Speaker 2: call them out in public and pull the support and
Speaker 2: tell them to wrap it up, or back them one
Speaker 2: hundred percent, you know, honestly, but they're trying to have
Speaker 2: it both ways is just ridiculous.
Speaker 3: In my opinion. I mean, really, what I think we
Speaker 3: need to do.
Speaker 2: What I've seen in the past, now, what I've seen
Speaker 2: some even Obama people float is Biden needs to press
Speaker 2: for a change in government in Israel.
Speaker 3: And look, I know that this, you know, sounds a.
Speaker 2: Little bit like interfering, but at this point, you know,
Speaker 2: giving the intertwinement of the two governments, I think we
Speaker 2: should just make it clear, like, look, Bebet, we don't
Speaker 2: have any confidence in you. So it's like Israel, you
Speaker 2: guys can figure it out. But until we see long
Speaker 2: term change and you actually, you know, change your government,
Speaker 2: you have somebody who can speak properly on your behalf,
Speaker 2: then you know, us support it's just not going to
Speaker 2: happen for this interim peer because at this point, I
Speaker 2: mean's just putting us in such a precarious position. We're
Speaker 2: about to talk now about the likely unfortunate casualties you know,
Speaker 2: already in a war they're suffering right now, and this
Speaker 2: is costing America billions of dollars, you know, from the
Speaker 2: shipping from I mean, look, I can add up the
Speaker 2: bill for all the bombs that we just put on Yemen,
Speaker 2: and it's probably well over one hundred million if we
Speaker 2: don't even include all the resources that we've deployed, and
Speaker 2: just in general, like this was my same critique of Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Think about the amount of brain space that this takes
Speaker 2: up for the US military, for the American president, and
Speaker 2: for decision makers in Washington.
Speaker 3: That is the most precious thing in the world. It's like,
Speaker 3: the entire.
Speaker 2: World is currently revolving around this conflict, and it's like,
Speaker 2: if that's going to be the case, then like we
Speaker 2: should have less of impotent role I think in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so. I would say so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't with these endless pieces about
Speaker 1: how frustrated they are and how they're trying so hard
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, et cetera, et cetera. I want you
Speaker 1: to think about how completely bizarre this is that you
Speaker 1: have the president and his aides leaking to Axios that
Speaker 1: they are basically in disagreement with their own policy set
Speaker 1: by the President of the United States, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this president.
Speaker 1: It's the one who has set no red lines, unconditional
Speaker 1: support rushing weapons bypassing Congress to rush these weapons, and
Speaker 1: the two thousand pounds bunk or buster bombs that are
Speaker 1: being dropped on civilians. So if you really are frustrated
Speaker 1: with the war effort, you sure have a funny way
Speaker 1: of showing it. It dovetails with this always frequent feigned
Speaker 1: Democratic Party impotence, like pretending like, oh, things are just
Speaker 1: happening and we have absolutely no control of them. No,
Speaker 1: you set the policy, you set the strategy. You are
Speaker 1: the ones who have made it very clear that yes,
Speaker 1: you may do a little bit of hand ringing, but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're going to give Israel,
Speaker 1: and you're going to give Natanna who every single thing
Speaker 1: that they want.
Speaker 4: So of course they're not going to listen to you.
Speaker 1: Of course, babe, he's going to go on Heybrew, you know,
Speaker 1: in Hebrew language, on Israeli news and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we told them we're not stopping. We're doing whatever the
Speaker 1: hell they want, and this is our war. And by
Speaker 1: the way, we think you should attack Aroun next. Like,
Speaker 1: of course he's going to feel entitled to do that
Speaker 1: because that is the policy that you set. So to
Speaker 1: go to the press, and I have to say too,
Speaker 1: like these reporters just lay this out totally credulously based
Speaker 1: on you know, whatever it is that the officials are
Speaker 1: saying without providing any context that hey, if they actually
Speaker 1: had a problem with it, there are weapons. There are
Speaker 1: tools that we could use, including not shipping them the
Speaker 1: weapons that they want until they do the things that
Speaker 1: you supposedly claim that you care about. But just to
Speaker 1: give you, you know, a very clear sense of how
Speaker 1: this is not at all dissonant. Bibe's policy is not
Speaker 1: at all dissonant with the Biden administration policy. The White
Speaker 1: House just put out their statement about one hundred days
Speaker 1: of war. How many times do you think they mentioned Palestinians?
Speaker 1: How many times?
Speaker 4: Zero? Zero?
Speaker 1: They did not mention Palestinians, the massive death, the hunger,
Speaker 1: the starvation. They did not mention it a single time. So, yes,
Speaker 1: if you're a bb Netanyaho, you're looking at that, you're
Speaker 1: looking at Joe Biden. Okay, he hung up on the
Speaker 1: phone with you in a huff twenty days ago.
Speaker 4: Who cares? Who cares?
Speaker 3: Soccer?
Speaker 1: I thought there was an extraordinary quote in that Axios
Speaker 1: piece from Senator Chris van Holland, who is a totally like,
Speaker 1: you know, party supporting standard issue democrat, who says for
Speaker 1: now net now who appears more willing to listen to
Speaker 1: ben Gevier and Smotrich than to what the President of
Speaker 1: the United States says.
Speaker 4: And it is no surprise why that would be.
Speaker 1: First of all, he's ideologically aligned with that's number one.
Speaker 1: Number two is that they actually are willing to threaten
Speaker 1: to withhold their support, break up his coalition, and undermine
Speaker 1: his power base. So yeah, they have a lot more
Speaker 1: power and they have a lot more say. Even though
Speaker 1: the Biden administration would like to pretend there's some fringe
Speaker 1: voices irrelevant to the government, we have a democratic senator
Speaker 1: here who, by the way, was just in the region
Speaker 1: who was saying, not the case, not the case. These
Speaker 1: people actually have a lot of influence, way more influence
Speaker 1: than the President of the United States is willing to exert.
Speaker 2: Well, why wouldn't you have more influence like Biden is
Speaker 2: willing to back him, and that these people are actually
Speaker 2: control his political future. So I actually think it's quite
Speaker 2: of irrational move on his part. But listen, we're probably
Speaker 2: just not going to change anything about it.
Speaker 3: So it is what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: At the same time, there has been stunning revelations that
Speaker 1: two US Navy seals have been lost at sea in
Speaker 1: the near Yemen, off the coast of Somalia, in what
Speaker 1: has been described as a mission to essentially board ship
Speaker 1: at night and try to intercept weapons that they believed
Speaker 1: were going from Iran two Yemen. That piece has now
Speaker 1: been confirmed that that's the mission that they were on.
Speaker 1: Here is John Kirby getting asked about this.
Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7: We receive that report about two Navy seals missing off
Speaker 7: the coast of Somalia. They were attempting to board a
Speaker 7: small ship believed to be carrying weapons from Iran to Yemen.
Speaker 8: What is the status as far as we know that
Speaker 8: that search is still ongoing for those two sailors that
Speaker 8: are in the water, and we hope to.
Speaker 6: Get some updated information today. But we're obviously watching this
Speaker 6: very closely.
Speaker 7: This is directly related to what is going on.
Speaker 8: This was not related to the strikes in Yemen, and
Speaker 8: this was normal interdiction operations that we've been conducting for
Speaker 8: some time to try to disrupt that flow of weapons
Speaker 8: supplies to Yemen.
Speaker 6: So not related to the strikes that we took against
Speaker 6: the Hooties.
Speaker 7: But still in this region, the Hootis, as you just
Speaker 7: mentioned there, say the motivation here is they're trying to
Speaker 7: get back at Israel's allies. That's a justification they're using
Speaker 7: for attacking some of these ships. Does the US assess
Speaker 7: that these coalition strikes will deter the Houthies or are
Speaker 7: you bracing for retaliation and an open ended conflict.
Speaker 8: I think it'd be polyannish for us to think that
Speaker 8: there could or may not be some sort of retaliatory
Speaker 8: strike by the Hooties.
Speaker 6: We're watching this very very closely.
Speaker 8: We've taken the requisite necessary precautions in the region to
Speaker 8: make sure we're ready for that if.
Speaker 6: That should occur.
Speaker 8: These strikes were meant to disrupt and degrade their ability
Speaker 8: to conduct these strikes, and so we think that we
Speaker 8: had good effect on that. We're still assessing the battle
Speaker 8: damage assessment of those strikes, but we think we had
Speaker 8: good effect.
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens. The Houthis have a choice to
Speaker 6: make here now, Margaret, and the right choice is to
Speaker 6: stop these reckless attacks.
Speaker 8: And no matter what they say, this is not about
Speaker 8: punishing Israel. I mean, one of the ships they took
Speaker 8: a shot at yesterday was Panamanium flag that was taking
Speaker 8: Russian oil had nothing to do with Israel.
Speaker 7: So it may be an open ended conflict. We don't
Speaker 7: know if deterrence has been established.
Speaker 8: Nobody wants a conflict with the Hoothies. We're not looking
Speaker 8: for a conflict with the Yemen here. We're trying to
Speaker 8: get these attacks to stop.
Speaker 1: So you can see there he tries to distance the
Speaker 1: mission that these Navy seals were on from our strikes
Speaker 1: on Yemen and on the Hoothys.
Speaker 4: But these are very clearly.
Speaker 3: Linkedinsc total bs.
Speaker 2: I'm actually really upset about it because it's obvious. Look,
Speaker 2: you cannot tell me that these are normal operations. We
Speaker 2: don't normally have US Navy seals who are bound like
Speaker 2: boarding ships openly in the middle of Somalia with weapons
Speaker 2: bound for Yemen. This is obviously a new policy that
Speaker 2: was put into place as part of this so called
Speaker 2: coalition where we're trying to shop stop the weapon shipments
Speaker 2: from Iran to the Hoothies to prevent attacks in the
Speaker 2: Red Sea. For some reason, this responsibility has wholly come
Speaker 2: upon the United States, even though this is supposedly a
Speaker 2: conflict that involves Israel. Okay, so now we're involved in
Speaker 2: it and now I mean, look, I hate to say it.
Speaker 2: These two Navy seals are lost its seede now for
Speaker 2: days in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 3: That is horrible.
Speaker 2: I mean, I look, I hope, I hope to God
Speaker 2: that they are found alive. Imagine me the family members
Speaker 2: are to these guys, you know, and listen, they certainly
Speaker 2: like in terms of the mission and all of that.
Speaker 2: It's one of those where we have to think about
Speaker 2: what was the strategy, what were we actually doing here?
Speaker 2: This was involved to try and prevent weapons flows from
Speaker 2: Iran to the who these which are attacking ships. But
Speaker 2: the thing is is that all of that for the
Speaker 2: center of gravity is Israel and is Gaza, and you
Speaker 2: know that's why you put it correctly. It appears that
Speaker 2: these are going to be the first direct look, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say casualty yet, the first at least
Speaker 2: like directly affected American soldiers, other American service members other
Speaker 2: than the ones who've already been attacked in Iraq and
Speaker 2: in Syria, ye who were directly involved in a combat
Speaker 2: operation or some sort of operation that was directly involved
Speaker 2: in the conflict here, which I look at this is
Speaker 2: really tragic.
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys.
Speaker 2: It's like, what a horrible, horrible situation for their command,
Speaker 2: for the people were involved, for their teammates, and for
Speaker 2: their families and everyone else involved, and we just have
Speaker 2: to think about, like what is actually going on here
Speaker 2: and what were these guys doing. And the truth is
Speaker 2: is that this was all because the Hoothies are attacking ships,
Speaker 2: which they say is because of the situation in Israel
Speaker 2: and in GODSLMA. I got no love for the Hoothies,
Speaker 2: and I got no love for anybody you know who's
Speaker 2: attacking ships or anything other than that. If I thought
Speaker 2: that we could solve this problem by bombing, I'd be like, listen,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. The issue is is that, as I
Speaker 2: said from day one, you know, the Saudi's bomb these
Speaker 2: people Kingdom come for nine straight years and lo and behold.
Speaker 2: In the so called battle damage assessment, which I know
Speaker 2: we're about to get into Crystal, they said they only
Speaker 2: destroyed ten to twenty percent of their offensive capability, and
Speaker 2: that over eighty percent remains not only capable, but way
Speaker 2: harder to destroy because it's all mobilely launched, which means that.
Speaker 3: We could be in a way worse situation.
Speaker 2: I mean just today the news broke that the that
Speaker 2: there was a Yeah, the US has its shot down
Speaker 2: a hooty missile named a U aimed at a US
Speaker 2: Navy ship.
Speaker 3: It only today this happened, and not in this case.
Speaker 2: Listen, shooting in a Panamanian tanker carrying Russian oil whatever,
Speaker 2: all right, Like that's way less of our responsibility. This
Speaker 2: is at the USS Laboon, which is a US destroyer
Speaker 2: four forty PM yemen time anti ship cruise missile. These
Speaker 2: things are no joke. Luckily we have good defense. But
Speaker 2: what if it doesn't. You know, it only takes one
Speaker 2: and then we're in a whole other different situation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I worry about. That's what I worry about
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 1: Well, and let's just put some more details up on
Speaker 1: the screen that we know is from the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: Everything we know about what happened with these Navy seals.
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, this is the official story right
Speaker 1: of what happened here. Who really knows? Okay, navy seals losses. See,
Speaker 1: we're searching for Yemen bound weapons shipment, so we have
Speaker 1: confirmation of what was being said there. It went around
Speaker 1: near Somalia last week. They were dispatched to look for
Speaker 1: suspected Iranian weapons bound for militants in Yemen, which has
Speaker 1: become a staging ground for repeated attacks on commercial vessels
Speaker 1: in the Red See. The two service members who went
Speaker 1: missing were preparing to board the ship in rough seas
Speaker 1: when one of them slipped from roladder. The second sailor,
Speaker 1: seeing their comrade fall into the water, dove into help.
Speaker 1: The official set on the condition of anonymity to describe
Speaker 1: early assessments. This occurred Thursday in the Gulf of Aden.
Speaker 1: They've been missing since Thursday. Guys not immediately clear whether
Speaker 1: other military personnel successfully boarded the ship, or if so,
Speaker 1: whether any Iranian made weapons were located. Again, I say
Speaker 1: this is the official stories that they fell into the water.
Speaker 1: It is very possible that that is not actually what happened,
Speaker 1: but both the attempt to distance this action from the strikes,
Speaker 1: the bombings of the hu thies in Yemen, and also
Speaker 1: potentially you know, I don't know what actually happened here,
Speaker 1: but if they are lying and they were actually killed
Speaker 1: by Iranians and they're saying they fell into the water
Speaker 1: to avoid escalation, I support that lie. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to go ahead and say it straight up.
Speaker 2: But well, I would support it for their family members.
Speaker 2: It's just one of the look, it's just it's awful
Speaker 2: because in I view, they are both trying to directly
Speaker 2: involve US soldiers you a service member, yes, in this,
Speaker 2: and then distance themselves from it when well, things go out.
Speaker 2: That's why you don't put our troops at risk unless
Speaker 2: it's actually one hundred percent worth that. You don't send
Speaker 2: people to go and board a ship unless you're like,
Speaker 2: unless you know it's for something that directly involves us,
Speaker 2: which is really important to our overall security.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously the reason I say that is just because
Speaker 1: I want to avoid war with a rob I want
Speaker 1: to avoid that escalatory spiral that you're talking about that
Speaker 1: we are dramatically at risk of because because of what
Speaker 1: Israel is doing in Gaza. I mean, all of these
Speaker 1: reports act like this is just happening out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and again like we're powerless to stop it or do
Speaker 1: anything about it. When there was a ceasefire, this all
Speaker 1: stopped the attacks on our service members in a rock
Speaker 1: that almost killed them by the way, we came this close.
Speaker 1: It hit a military barracks where they were sleeping and
Speaker 1: by the luck of God, the universe, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say, thankfully they were not killed. Okay, these attacks
Speaker 1: in the Red Sea dramatically decreased, because this all stems
Speaker 1: from conflict that we are directly involved in, regardless of
Speaker 1: what Joe Biden wants you to believe in the handwringing
Speaker 1: reports that they released to the press.
Speaker 4: So what the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 1: I ask again, let's go ahead to E four, guys,
Speaker 1: so we can see this strategy. Even if you want
Speaker 1: to say, like, okay, you know it's we're not going
Speaker 1: to call for a cease fire, so I guess we
Speaker 1: have to bomb the houthis what are we even doing
Speaker 1: here when it didn't even work? The New York Times
Speaker 1: is reporting their offensive ability remains intact after the US
Speaker 1: led air strikes, so it's not like we even were
Speaker 1: effective at degrading the Hoothy capabilities to continue to strike.
Speaker 1: So there's that you also have. We can skip ahead
Speaker 1: to E seven. You have even the Rand Corporation before
Speaker 1: this happened, saying that this is an absolutely foolish strategy.
Speaker 1: One of their analysts wrote this for a magazine here, saying,
Speaker 1: don't bomb the hoofies because.
Speaker 4: It's not going to work. It's not that they're opposed.
Speaker 1: The Marine Corporation famously like hawkish, but they say this
Speaker 1: is decades of experience have shown military efforts to just
Speaker 1: lodge the hoovies are unlikely to be effective. Like if
Speaker 1: bombing the houthies would work, as Sager has said it
Speaker 1: said in the past, they would already be gone like
Speaker 1: that would be done and finished. The Saudis have been
Speaker 1: bombing them for quite a while now to little impact.
Speaker 1: If anything, this bolsters their hand domestically because it is
Speaker 1: a uniting issue. The support for Palestinians is a uniting
Speaker 1: issue within Yemen. There were huge, huge demonstrations in the
Speaker 1: Yemeni capital of Sanna after the US struck these sites
Speaker 1: in Yemen. By the way, let's put this next one
Speaker 1: up on the screen from Ryan Peterson after the US
Speaker 1: and UK navies launched missile attacks on land based Hoothy
Speaker 1: targets and Yemen. Instead of setting a signal the Red
Speaker 1: Sea is now safe for ships. This morning, sixteen more
Speaker 1: vessels that had been en route to transit the Red
Speaker 1: Sea had instead diverted around Africa. So congratulations, you made
Speaker 1: the shipping situation worse. You made it worse because guess what, guys,
Speaker 1: do you really want your containership to go through what
Speaker 1: is now an active war zone thanks to the US
Speaker 1: in the UK. So you didn't degrade their capabilities, You've
Speaker 1: made the shipping situation worse and put E nine up
Speaker 1: on the screen.
Speaker 4: By the way, oh, oil.
Speaker 1: Prices went up after our strikes on the hoo Thies,
Speaker 1: So way to go, guys, brilliant, brilliant strategy. You've done
Speaker 1: nothing but put US service members at risk. You've done
Speaker 1: nothing but expand the danger of this war and the
Speaker 1: possibility of greater conflagration. You have made the shipping situation worse,
Speaker 1: and you caused oil prices to go up. Brilliant fricking strategy, guys.
Speaker 4: Way to go.
Speaker 2: Yes, teams are the only ships left in the red
Speaker 2: or US Navy ships, US or UK ships. I should laugh,
Speaker 2: but it's not funny because there now they're getting fired
Speaker 2: on as of literally this morning, and just that anytime
Speaker 2: look low grade situation. This is the thing about asymmetric
Speaker 2: warfare is we quote unquote destroy whatever ten to twenty percent,
Speaker 2: and if anything, whatever you hit first is usually the
Speaker 2: easiest stuff to hit, which is whatever comes tax is
Speaker 2: way harder to hit. It's just like the North Koreans
Speaker 2: anybody else with who wants to display asymmetric power.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 2: You make it difficult, and so you other camouflage. You
Speaker 2: put it on the back of a truck and you
Speaker 2: move it around. And with modern you know, technology involving
Speaker 2: attack drones as we've seen from the hooties and with
Speaker 2: the missiles, you can have a pretty significant impact for
Speaker 2: not that much money. So, if I've said it too,
Speaker 2: you can solve this one way. Militarily you have to
Speaker 2: occupy yemit. I don't want to do that. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's worth it at all. There's another way, which
Speaker 2: is we could have diplomacy as this we're actually recommend
Speaker 2: you read that, you know, the Rand article because it's
Speaker 2: in Foreign Afairs magazines. Well it is, and she points out,
Speaker 2: you know everything that I've talked about before about the
Speaker 2: bombing campaign and about previously about how if there's militarily
Speaker 2: capable we talked about this already too with Gaza now
Speaker 2: for like one hundred days. Literally at this point, I'm like, listen,
Speaker 2: if it was easy to if we were gonna win
Speaker 2: a war for the populace destroyed insurgency with bombing alone,
Speaker 2: then we would have come out Vietnam as the greatest
Speaker 2: victors of all mankind. It turns out it's a lot
Speaker 2: more difficult than that. Yeah, the issue, you know is
Speaker 2: the same thing you know here. But look, I think, look,
Speaker 2: we really could be, you know, near breaking point, as
Speaker 2: you say, because what we are waiting and looking for
Speaker 2: is a conflagration type event. The Red Sea, like the
Speaker 2: initial bombing may be that not going to set it off,
Speaker 2: and if anything, it may not even happen Crystal, It
Speaker 2: may not even happen in Yemen. Yemen is just the
Speaker 2: latest indicator of the fortieth order consequence of destabilization. It
Speaker 2: could happen with the Rafa military operation we just talked about.
Speaker 2: Do you remember early on in the war when Israeli
Speaker 2: tank actually fired on Egypt and everyone just kind of
Speaker 2: looked the.
Speaker 3: Other way, They apologize, They're like, oh, we're really starry.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was serious, that was serious business. It's
Speaker 2: you know, this is what I keep saying. It only
Speaker 2: takes one thing. Two navy seals here likely you know,
Speaker 2: they're missing. You know, hopefully we are able to find them,
Speaker 2: but who knows. The US is clearly going to try and.
Speaker 3: Cover that up.
Speaker 2: But what if there's one more what if we you know,
Speaker 2: like you said, barracks. God, hey, can you imagine a
Speaker 2: scenario where five US service guys are killed in the
Speaker 2: barracks in Iraq?
Speaker 3: That's I mean, what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: There's also people, forget this, there is a peace process
Speaker 2: going on inside Yemen.
Speaker 3: They're also I don't know if people know this.
Speaker 2: The Iraqi Prime Minister and the US right now are
Speaker 2: in major negotiations or we're keeping our troops actually in
Speaker 2: the region. The Biden administration wants to stay. The Iraqis
Speaker 2: want us out.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, I want us out too, but obviously they
Speaker 2: you know, they're trying to keep us in.
Speaker 3: Who knows what that situation will look like like. There's
Speaker 3: big diplomatic problems.
Speaker 1: I think all over Saudis are very unhappy with these
Speaker 1: strikes on Yemen because, yeah, they were in the middle
Speaker 1: of a peace process and trying to resolve this conflict
Speaker 1: and not have endless war.
Speaker 4: And this is before we even mentioned the.
Speaker 1: Fact they didn't seek congressional authorization. The strikes are illegal,
Speaker 1: Biden's being criticized, but we're actually on Rocana on tomorrow
Speaker 1: to talk about this aspect as well. But even if
Speaker 1: you don't care about that, if you don't care about
Speaker 1: the Constitution, you don't care about striking them a sovereign nation,
Speaker 1: if you even put all of that aside, like it
Speaker 1: is a stupid strategy that has already failed and backfired.
Speaker 4: So, you know, brilliant work, guys. Way to go.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, we actually are running into a bit of
Speaker 3: a scheduling thing.
Speaker 2: We've got an interview that we have to do and
Speaker 2: we don't want the show to be too late, So
Speaker 2: my monologue will post later today sometime on YouTube, and
Speaker 2: we'll tack it onto our podcast maybe tomorrow. So just
Speaker 2: excuse the scheduling thing. We've got a lot going on
Speaker 2: here with all of that. But otherwise, we will have
Speaker 2: a breaking news tonight about Iowa, and then we will
Speaker 2: also have a show early for you tomorrow morning with
Speaker 2: Ryan and Emily here at the desk, will break everything
Speaker 2: down about what happened with the results of the Iowa caucuses,
Speaker 2: and we'll see you all then