WEBVTT - How Salt Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and this is Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should Know the podcast. Oh yeah, Jerry's over there.

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<v Speaker 1>She's all laughy today for some reason. The salty dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did salty calling someone salty? I wonder where that

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<v Speaker 1>came from. I meant to look that up. It's someone

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look up because you know, you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>salty nod. Yeah, I've said that plenty uh and once

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from like a salty dog. Here's here, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is my idea. Okay, so salty described somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is a little coarse, a little rough around the edges,

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<v Speaker 1>a little upset. Hear me out because their faces usually

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<v Speaker 1>puckered into like a a sour puss face. And what

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<v Speaker 1>makes your face pucker eating salt. So there's a salty person, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I would call them lemony. Well, so take something with

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<v Speaker 1>a grain of salt. Actually ancient that's from the romans Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They would take poison with a grain of salt, or's

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<v Speaker 1>something that was hard to swallow with a grain of

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<v Speaker 1>salt to make it go down more easily. Okay, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>not being worth their salt. In this article it says

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<v Speaker 1>that um slaves were traded with salt, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>got your hands on like a slave, that wasn't worth

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<v Speaker 1>much Like that, he wasn't worth his salt. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>not the origin I found? The first reference in print

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<v Speaker 1>came from an eighteen oh five description or book about

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<v Speaker 1>an expedition to Guinea Bissau, and it mentions a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who wasn't worth his salt. He's a good man, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Hale h a y eli um, but he wasn't worth

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<v Speaker 1>his salt, the guy said. And I looked it up

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't find that whether Hale was hired or

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<v Speaker 1>was a slave. But I got the impression that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what the guy was talking about wasn't that he had

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<v Speaker 1>traded salt for hail, but not worth the salt like

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<v Speaker 1>in his body. No, he was not worth the salt,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning a salary, which supposedly salary is rooted in the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of paying someone in salt, same with soldiers salt

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<v Speaker 1>dre and to give salt salad to The word salad

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the word salt, so salt is a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's an important thing. Historically speaking, there's been economies

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<v Speaker 1>largely based on salt. There have been um cultures rated

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<v Speaker 1>by other cultures because of salt. Um. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>an ancient salt producing area, probably the rulers control with

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<v Speaker 1>the tight grip um that salt production and salt distribution um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that actually carried on into the modern age when

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<v Speaker 1>the when Great Britain was occupying India, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>tight control on salt production there um. And actually Gandhi

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<v Speaker 1>started a revolution or helped along the revolution to overthrow

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<v Speaker 1>British imperial power through a salt protest. He walked two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty miles to the coast where the salt

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<v Speaker 1>production facilities were and grabbed a bit of salty clay

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<v Speaker 1>and boiled it, boiled the salt out of it, which

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<v Speaker 1>was an illegal act, and that protests spurred other similar protests,

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<v Speaker 1>and the British were like, oh, hey, you can't do that, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't mind your own salt. But he did because

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<v Speaker 1>he was Gandhi. It was called the Salt March to

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<v Speaker 1>Dandhi by gand by Gandhi. Uh yeah. Salt dates back

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty b C. And they actually found evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>salt trading in prehistoric times. So obviously it's used to

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<v Speaker 1>spice food is great, but it's used to preserve food.

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<v Speaker 1>Was super able, yeah back in the day and still today,

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<v Speaker 1>because salt is one of these things. You remember, Nature

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<v Speaker 1>loves homeostasis, it loves balance. If you introduce salt to

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<v Speaker 1>the mix, it kind of throws off that balance. So

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<v Speaker 1>to gain homeostasis, salt is introduced into say meat. It

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<v Speaker 1>likes to go into the meat, but it also draws

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<v Speaker 1>out the moisture, whether it's blood, water, whatever, so it

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<v Speaker 1>dries out the meat. It introduces the salt and it

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<v Speaker 1>draws out the moisture. That's right. That's called curing, which

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<v Speaker 1>preserves things because anytime bacteria comes in contact with that

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<v Speaker 1>salty meat, from that point on, the bacteria boom gets

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<v Speaker 1>dried out and dies. Yeah, that's why packaged foods are

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<v Speaker 1>still loaded with sodium. Unfortunately, I got some stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>that later. But it was used as a currency in

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<v Speaker 1>Ethiopia up until the twentieth century, and was used as

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<v Speaker 1>a form of suicide in China for nobility. They would

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<v Speaker 1>o d on salt and kill themselves. Oh yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was expensive and very valuable. So nobility, that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a noble way to go out. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk in a minute, like what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>have too much salt? It's not very pleasant. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>very pleasant. But you know in medieval Europe, remember we

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<v Speaker 1>did the ten medieval torture devices this episode, well we

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<v Speaker 1>skipped one called the goats tongue, and it was apparently

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing, a tickle torture. They would dip your feet,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing a goat, and the goat would lick the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of your feet and then they would dip it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And from that in the description, no, I'm saying like

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't in there. Um from the description, apparently being

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<v Speaker 1>tortured tickle tortured was not pleasant. I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>have my feet looked by a goat. They would do

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<v Speaker 1>it until you did not love it. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>point of the goats tongue to it. Sounds like fun

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Uh. And the Middle Ages, salt was transported

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<v Speaker 1>along the notorious Old Salt Route and northern Germany. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm gonna get you for Christmas, now, a

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<v Speaker 1>go in some salt water. I've had both at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. I don't know, I didn't think about it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was played this big role in early America as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts Bay Colony had the first pattern to produce salt

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<v Speaker 1>here in the colonies, saltwater, and uh they did so

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<v Speaker 1>for two hundred years. Uh. The Erie Canal opened primarily

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<v Speaker 1>to transport salt. Yeah, they called it the ditch that

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<v Speaker 1>salt built. It sounds like something you just made up. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I swear I've been on the Erie Canal. Oh. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have this nice system of locks, and um, they

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<v Speaker 1>used to there's still like donkey trails from where the

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<v Speaker 1>donkeys used to pull these little flat bottom boats that

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<v Speaker 1>would carry salt and whatnot. And now yuppies walk along

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<v Speaker 1>those trails. Dog yuppies. A they're still yuppies. Oh yeah, thanks, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard one the other day. Uh, dual income large

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<v Speaker 1>dog owner. All right. And the early salt was apparently

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<v Speaker 1>four times expensive as beef because salt was valuable obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were allows you with beef. And in Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War salt played a big part in the Union strategy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there were quite a few battles fault over capturing salt

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<v Speaker 1>works and salt mines. Yeah, in Saltville, Virginia. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what they do there. And it actually had a

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<v Speaker 1>big effect on the salt shortage on the Confederate troops. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the troops, but the people behind the lines

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<v Speaker 1>back in the Confederate States were like, we want our salt,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a huge impact on morale apparently, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say so. And the reason why salt is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't gotten the impression that it is important

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<v Speaker 1>by now, you should rewind the podcast and just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the last several minutes over again. Yeah, salt is

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily important because the human body requires it. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to survive and to live, so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that we actually have a taste sense for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only you don't need better to live, or

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<v Speaker 1>sour or umami. As a matter of fact, things like

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<v Speaker 1>bitter and sour are there. I think to detect things

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<v Speaker 1>that we shouldn't be eating. Salt is to detect something

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<v Speaker 1>we need that's right and we can. Actually, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so mind blowing to me. I love the human body.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's amazingly wonderful in ways that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>even fully understand yet. But consider this. When you need salt,

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<v Speaker 1>your body produces a craving in you for salt that

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome. Like I'm one of those believers. I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't follow it necessarily myself, but in a diet, well,

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<v Speaker 1>no thing, But in a diet where you just eat

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<v Speaker 1>what you crave, I think you can go off the

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<v Speaker 1>rails because I think that we uh have the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>things now. Yes, now, but if you could go back

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred fifty years, maybe I would bet you could

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<v Speaker 1>survive pretty easily and thrive on a diet where you

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<v Speaker 1>were just kind of led by your cravings, like oh

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<v Speaker 1>it need some megs and eat a couple of eggs, steak.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know. You should pay attention to yourself, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what your body is telling you, and I'll bet

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<v Speaker 1>you find that you do have specific cravings for specific moods,

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<v Speaker 1>foods that are like very simple meat like chuck go

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<v Speaker 1>eat a steak, Chuck go eat some eggs, like things

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<v Speaker 1>that are basic staples. I'll bet you'll notice you have

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<v Speaker 1>cravings salt. Uh. Let's let's break it down chemically. Um

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<v Speaker 1>it's sodium and chlorine are the two basic elements, and salt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all know this, which are electrolytes. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into that in a minute. Um, sodium

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<v Speaker 1>is silvery white metal, and it is neither one of

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<v Speaker 1>these are like super friendly independently of one another. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like especially chlorine. Yeah, sodium reacts violently if

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<v Speaker 1>you mix it with water and oxidizes in air. Chlorine

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<v Speaker 1>exists in gas at a room temperature. They're both really volatile.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you put them together and you have sodium chloride,

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<v Speaker 1>they make beautiful music, makes beautiful halite, uh, and beautiful music.

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<v Speaker 1>And sodium chloride is is about a sixty sodium to chloride,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is that right? Yeah? It makes little cubes, right, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? The molecules are cubicle, right. The sodium packs

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<v Speaker 1>in pretty tight, and then the chlorine fills in the

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<v Speaker 1>rest and they make tiny little cubes. It's actually reversed,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I said. Yeah, the chloride is packed and

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<v Speaker 1>then the sodium fills in. But you know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have thought the sodium was bigger. Oh well, Um, will

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<v Speaker 1>you have is an A C L. That's right? And

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned electrolytes. Those are minerals that conduct electricity in

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<v Speaker 1>our body and our fluids and tissues, which is very

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<v Speaker 1>important important as muscle movement, we run on electricity. Heart

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<v Speaker 1>involuntary muscle UM moves through electrical impulse. I guess all

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<v Speaker 1>muscles do. Yeah, you want your eyes to blank, buddy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>eat some salt, right, And so there's two conditions that

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<v Speaker 1>you can have conceivably well three, three would be just

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<v Speaker 1>all the systems are normal. But um, the other two

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<v Speaker 1>is too little salt and too much salt. And too

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<v Speaker 1>little salt is called hypoon atrema. Yeah, that's what that

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<v Speaker 1>lady died of the hold your WI for a week contest?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that right? Yeah? You can o d on water,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess that's what you would ultimately die from.

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<v Speaker 1>Is hypone tremea their water toxicity. Um, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>too much water, you probably have too little salt, because

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<v Speaker 1>water flush is salt from your system is the method

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<v Speaker 1>that your kidneys use to maintain the balance of salt

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<v Speaker 1>and other electrolytes in your body. And that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>might drink gatorade if you're working out, because it has

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<v Speaker 1>electrolytes in it, right, exactly. You don't want to water

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<v Speaker 1>your crop land with it, though, as we found from

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Idiocracy. Yeah, and actually found too that in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties there was a lot of controversy over

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<v Speaker 1>salting roads killing roadside vegetation. Well, yeah, for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like that, if you were into conquests and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, and you wanted to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the land you just occupied couldn't be used to grow

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<v Speaker 1>crops to feed an imposing armor army, you would plow

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<v Speaker 1>the land with salt. Salt the earth, yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not the salt of the earth, because that means you're

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<v Speaker 1>a good fellah, but not a good fella because those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are salty. Wow, look at you. That was that

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<v Speaker 1>was a team effort. Clever wordplay, my friend. Uh. If

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<v Speaker 1>you take diuretics um or you have like massive diarrhea

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<v Speaker 1>for a period of days, or vomiting or some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stomach bug, you might be at risk for hyponatremia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're flushing out all of this, all of your

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<v Speaker 1>electual lights. This is salt that your body needs. So

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<v Speaker 1>if it's out of balance, you're going to suffer things like, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>an inability for your heart to beat, which is often fatal. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>kidney problems, yeah, um on the other hand, you can

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<v Speaker 1>have hypernit tremia, which is too much salt, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, if you're a Chinese aristocrat, um, you may

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<v Speaker 1>die from hyper netremia. Yeah. They even had a m

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<v Speaker 1>man sometimes a blanket on word how to manual. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like how many grams of salt you

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<v Speaker 1>needed per pound in your body? That like a chart.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if you want to kill yourself in China,

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<v Speaker 1>yours I you do it. Yeah, there's so much salt

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<v Speaker 1>you need? That was ro is he like that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm off today. No, you know, I'm a little off.

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<v Speaker 1>You were on my my microphone just swerved to the left,

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<v Speaker 1>but were happening. There's a ghost in here. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>too much sodium, I think you said already is hypern

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<v Speaker 1>tremia instead of hypo hyper hyper hypo exactly. It's like glacemia,

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<v Speaker 1>but with no tremia exactly, and with hypernutremia. Basically, remember

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<v Speaker 1>how salt if you um, if you introduce it to say,

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<v Speaker 1>a jerky of some sort, it will dry it out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a shameful thing to do. Um. If you

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<v Speaker 1>introduce it to a meat or something like that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to dry it out because through osmosis in search

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<v Speaker 1>of homeostasis, um, it does the same thing to your

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<v Speaker 1>blood and your extracellular fluids. That salt will draw out

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<v Speaker 1>the fluids in your cells, but will maintain it in

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<v Speaker 1>your blood. It's water retention basically. Yeah, your kidneys, when

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<v Speaker 1>it has too much salt to deal with, kicks it

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<v Speaker 1>around the blood supply. Just like remember in the hangover

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<v Speaker 1>episode when you why drugs are so fatal when you

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<v Speaker 1>drink a lot of alcohol because your kidneys are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to process your the alcohol, so it keeps the drugs

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<v Speaker 1>just going around and around in your blood supply. Same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with too much salt. If your kidneys have too

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<v Speaker 1>much to deal with, they just keep the excess going

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<v Speaker 1>around in your blood. And since that salt is drawing

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<v Speaker 1>out all the excess moisture and increase is the volume

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<v Speaker 1>of your blood, which makes your blood pressure rise, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes your heart beat, yes, which supposedly logically would put

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<v Speaker 1>you at risk for a stroker heart attack, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you would die from hypernatremia. Yeah, I have high

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<v Speaker 1>blood pressure. Well, supposedly sodium. Cutting your sodium down isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to help. Yeah, there's a lot of conflicting data

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<v Speaker 1>on that for sure. Um, well we'll get to nutrition soon.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll cover that. Well, how about before we move on,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to do a message break? So chuck. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like you said, there's a lot of controversy over

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<v Speaker 1>how much salt or how little salt you should have

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis in your diet. Yeah. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>Heart National Heart, Blood and Long Institute say no more

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<v Speaker 1>than two point four grams of sodium. It's about a

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<v Speaker 1>teaspoon per day. Americans they found consume an average of

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<v Speaker 1>a about three point four per day, So that's one

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<v Speaker 1>gram too much on average. And um, you actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>need more than about a half a gram a day

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to maintain that stasis. So yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>for your electro light intake. The thing is, though, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was for many years because it makes sense that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if too much salt increases your blood pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>then too much salt should be um, should put you

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<v Speaker 1>at risk for strokes and heart attacks. Right. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>CDC panel surveyed material and all did and all all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of studies that found no, cutting your sodium intake

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really doesn't decrease your risk of heart attack or stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a matter of fact, there is was it

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<v Speaker 1>just more hereditary. They don't know what it is. They

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<v Speaker 1>just know that basically below three thousand grams or three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand milligrams of salt and above seven thousand mill grams

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<v Speaker 1>of salt a day were two groups that were at

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<v Speaker 1>higher risk of heart attack. So if you have too

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<v Speaker 1>little salt, you're at higher risk of heart attack. To okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so try to keep it between three thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand milligrams three thousand and seven th The thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is they they don't They weren't comfortable making any recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just sayone scared, this is what we found.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone scared, like, go on the record, yeah, because we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know. Like, it doesn't make any sense that

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<v Speaker 1>you would have a heart attack if you ate less

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<v Speaker 1>than three grams of sault today. That that flies in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of of um conventional wisdom, and nobody's figured

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<v Speaker 1>out why yet. Interesting, Well, it's something you should monitor

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people look at fat grams and calories and all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is great to look at nutritionally, but um, when

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<v Speaker 1>you start poking around on the soup can and you see, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this chicken noodle soup has milligrams of sodium, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good. And this one little can which is almost

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<v Speaker 1>a gram of sodium, yeah close to it. A quarter

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<v Speaker 1>pounder with bacon and cheese. You didn't do Big Max,

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<v Speaker 1>Now I should have been communist. I think Big Max.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I did see this is milligrams. The big Mac

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<v Speaker 1>I think was around leven pounds more. With the bacon.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have like a whole bacon onion ranch

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<v Speaker 1>or something topping that you can put on quarter pounders.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've not yet tried this, but like I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it from time to time, like right now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, especially uh so at anyway, just give it

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<v Speaker 1>a look. Like soups are notoriously high in sodium. Package

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<v Speaker 1>foods are notoriously high in sodium. Um, don't just think

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<v Speaker 1>about the table salt that you use, Like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't salt my food that much today. You need a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of package food or eating a lot of sodium. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody can tell you how much you should be

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<v Speaker 1>eating or shouldn't be eating. But like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to just pay attention to that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because you probably are eating a lot more than you realize,

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<v Speaker 1>and you should be eating a lot of package food anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go ahead and say that, so um chuck, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what kinds of salt are there? Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say I love salt to Salt and pepper

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<v Speaker 1>are my favorite two spices. I'm from the South, have

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<v Speaker 1>a taste for salt um and pork fat. Yeah that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty southern too, Yeah for sure. Uh So I love salt.

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<v Speaker 1>I like good Mediterranean sea salt. That's what I used

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<v Speaker 1>at my house. Uh and I'm gonna plug this local saltier.

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<v Speaker 1>I just made that word up oh later in the show. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I'm a big salt fan. I like salt too.

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 1>I like sweet, I like ummi, I like um sour.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm training myself to like bitter through the use of kampari. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I I've found out that I'm a bitter super taster. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like things that seem like normal to other people are

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<v Speaker 1>like really bitter to me. Like one example, fruit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like like it just gustingly bitter to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can't understand how the rest of humanity eats

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<v Speaker 1>grape fruit. I don't like grapefruit. Well, maybe you're a

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<v Speaker 1>bitter super taster too, But I have to tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>I've trained myself to like um, grapefruit and coompari just

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<v Speaker 1>by exposure, like I've come to appreciate them. With campari,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bar like a bitter DIGESTI for Appritif you

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<v Speaker 1>do like a campari and soda, it's in a negrowning right. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen people like if their stomachs upset

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<v Speaker 1>or is that bitters and soda? Well, campari is a

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<v Speaker 1>type of bitters. It's not that super compact bitters like angustura,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a type of bitter. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a DIGESTI Okay, it's good stuff anyway. I like salt.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm really saying there is I like well seasoned food.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a chef or a home chef, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that salt is important to cooking, super important and

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<v Speaker 1>baking obviously, but bland food can't do it. No, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. What is the point? Agreed? Types of salt,

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<v Speaker 1>well start with table salt and and like man, if

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<v Speaker 1>your if your doctor put you on like a bland

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<v Speaker 1>food diet, I feel for you. But there's stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>there you can eat. There's spike, there's Mrs Dash, there's

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<v Speaker 1>you should be seasoning your food to some extent, like

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<v Speaker 1>bland food is is like it's bland life. Yeah. They

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<v Speaker 1>even have the imitation salt of the New and New salt.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do any research on that, but I've bought

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<v Speaker 1>it before. You do you like it? I didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>it that much, but it's it exists in my home

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the empty thing of Mediterranean sea salt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it's the table salt is the first one

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<v Speaker 1>we should cover. That's the traditional um either iodized or

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<v Speaker 1>non iodized, fine grained salt that you see in many

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<v Speaker 1>many homes and restaurants, and it's IDEs. They did a

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<v Speaker 1>little research into this. Did you look up iodie salt? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I know that they they added it because

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<v Speaker 1>at one point it was like fluoride. They thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we need this in a good place to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in salt. Yeah, because most people use salt, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just put it into table salt because it's an easy additive.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, there was a real problem with hyper thyroidism,

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<v Speaker 1>things like Goiter's mental retardation. UM just poor fetal development

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<v Speaker 1>linked to um iodine deficiency. So they put it in salt,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently there it's considered to be responsible for this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called the Flynn effect, which there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>three i Q point rise in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century in western nations and nobody could figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And they think now that it was

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<v Speaker 1>because they added iodine to salt, and so it had

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<v Speaker 1>the aggregate effect of raising our i Q by um

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<v Speaker 1>preventing poor fetal development. Yeah. Well, it's still a problem

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<v Speaker 1>in other parts of the world, just not here in

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<v Speaker 1>North America, right, other parts of the world that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have IDI salt. You know, dumb they are. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was terrible. I'm just kidding. You need to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the world. I'm sorry everybody. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, table saw, this is the most common salt. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They remove all the impurities. Um. They have things in

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<v Speaker 1>there to make it not clump and stick together, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it pours freely, so even when it rains, it pours. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>should we get to that. Yeah, don't you have something

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>on that? Yeah? The UM I just for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>thought of the Morton salt girl, and like every great

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>advertising story, they were like, how do we It was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a new thing at the time, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eleven two package salt this way in a container with

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<v Speaker 1>a spout. How they package it before? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the blocks, probably like a deer like or something. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure actually, but I know that this was a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly revolutionary product to package it like this and process

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<v Speaker 1>it like this. Um So the agency was um In

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<v Speaker 1>w Air and Company, and Don Draper walks in and says,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got twelve proposals for you, which one do you like?

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<v Speaker 1>And Sterling Morton of the Morton Company, of course, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always someone else, like his son or his wife or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was his son in secretary. Um pointed toward one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ads with a little girl holding the umbrella

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<v Speaker 1>and said this is the one, And he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I think you guys are right. The whole

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>story is right there in the picture. Because the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point was this salt doesn't clump when it rains at poors,

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<v Speaker 1>and the little girls can't be trusted to be sent

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<v Speaker 1>to the store by themselves because they ruin all the salt.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping the nozzle open on the way home. Uh. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the different um slogans they had was flows freely,

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<v Speaker 1>runs freely, pours, it never rains, but it pours. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they finally settled on when it rains at poors. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best because it never rains but it pors.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make any sense. They probably fired that person. And

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<v Speaker 1>she's been updated one to three, four five times. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah, the last time in nineteen sixty eight and

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>she's been the same since then. And there was never

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.479
<v Speaker 1>a real model for that girl. That's a question they

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>often get. She totally made up. Yeah, because he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Morton's granddaughters. What you know, you want to thank

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Selma Selma Morton. So that is the story of the Sken.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an old timing name. If ever there was one

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<v Speaker 1>that's a college right, No, it's like a person's name. Well,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a college too. Had a friend that played soccer

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>there e r s k I ny there's a college

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>named Colgate too. It's like crazy to me, Uh, Sea

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<v Speaker 1>Salt Sir is next. Uh. It's gonna cost you some

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<v Speaker 1>more money because of several reasons, one of which if

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>they go old school and In some parts of France,

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they still harvest the stuff by hand, which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You might see it called flair to sell, which is

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<v Speaker 1>French for flower of salt, and uh, it's not processed

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<v Speaker 1>like table salt is. So you're gonna have a lot

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of those trace minerals. It's gonna be coarse and flaky,

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>and it colors it too. It can for sure, like

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you can have white sea salt, pink, black, gray, or

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>a combination of them. Pink salts are traditionally associated with

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>him alay and salt um, and there the pink is

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>often for the result of things like copper or iron

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>or apparently um. There's a type that contains an algae,

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a salt tolerant algae, which would make it an extreme

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>aphile um. That gives it has the beta caroteen pigment

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>in it, and that gives it a pinkish hue. That salt.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>You're eating algae, pink algae in your salt, which is

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty neat. That is pretty neat, and that that's Hawaiian, right.

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times Hawaii has a different one and alaya,

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh I read that as algae, Yeah, I did too.

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>A couple of times and I was like, why would

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>they separate these two out there's no g No, it's

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a Hawaiian Alaya salt has iron oxide in it from

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the volcanoes. Oh, that makes sense. And WHOI also produces

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>black salt too from the lava. Yeah, in a little

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.719
<v Speaker 1>bit of charcoal. I'll have to try some of those actually,

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and then there's gray salts to um, which

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>is uh, there's cell gree which is from France. And

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>then smoked salt is also gray, where they just take

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>some salt and smoke it. Yeah, they put it over

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>a smoky fire, and you have smoked salt. Do you

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>like smoky foods sometimes? Yeah, it could be a little

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>overbearing for me at times. Yeah, in the hands of

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess somebody who knows what they're doing

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>with the smoked It's like, I like a good smoked meat,

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>little day type of thing, but not necessarily like you know,

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>when they add like artificial smoke in the kitchen to

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 1>it to a meal. You know what I'm saying. Although

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>smoked cheese is good, oh yeah, man, good smokey. And

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>thanks to fan Hillary Lozar from for sending us some

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>great cheese. Yeah, that was very good to you. I

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>had some of that smoked goody yesterday. Actually when I

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>got home, I haven't had it yet. Is it good?

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And as soon as I walked in the door, I

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>got a knife out. It's like, I gotta try this stuff.

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah's delicious anyway, Thanks Hilary. Um So, chefs and Gormond's

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>will say sea salt is what you want to be

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>using because you're gonna get a unique flavor from those

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>minerals that are not in table salt. I agree with them.

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It's tough to bake with though, Yeah, it's tough to measure.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>You get a lot more precise measuring, for sure from

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>table salt. And they don't recommend you bake with sea salt, no,

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>because baking is a specific chemical reaction. Cooking is different. Yeah,

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they say that they most chefs don't cook with sea salt,

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>but they will just add it as a topper. But

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I've cooked with sea salt and I have no plenty

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of chefs that cooked with sea salt, So I disagree

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with that. Um Well, they with the topper, they mean

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's a finishing salt. It brings out like all

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the flavors if you sprinkle it on them. Yeah, I

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>mean it's definitely used, but I've also seen it used

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>in the food right so well, that leads us to

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>kash your salt. Apparently some people like to cook with

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>kosher salt. And if you are using following a recipe

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're switching out the whatever amount of salt is

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>called for, you want to double it because kasher salt

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>is larger, coarse grained salt. And here to me is

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a fact of the podcast, want to several Kosher salt

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily kosher itself. It's used to make things kosher.

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>That I didn't. I thought kasher salt was like salt

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that had been blessed by a rabbi or something. Really

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I never understood it, but now I do. It's it's

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>salt they used to make things kosher. If you use

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>table salt UH to make something kosher, it's not gonna work.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Kasher salt because it's large and coarse grained. UH makes

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.719
<v Speaker 1>meat kosher by drawing the blood out because eating blood

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>ain't kosher. So if you salt it with kosher salt,

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna draw the blood out of the meat. Then bam,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a kosher cut of steak baby boom. And

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not iodized either, right by the way. Um. And

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>then we have the redheaded step child of the salt family,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>rock salt, which is used. Um. It's got a lot

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of impurities, it's unrefined, it's very large grained, and it's

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>used to melt ice on roads and sidewalks and to

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>make homemade ice cream. Yeah, and probably some other stuff.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But do you know of any other uses? I think

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>rock salts used in um, some chemical productions. That makes sense. Um,

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>if you want to make a good industrial brine, rock

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>salts your your man. Yeah, alright, salt mining, that's how

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you get salt, because it is a natural thing that

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>exists in the earth. UM. The largest producer of salt

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>these days, no surprise, is China. UM. In two thousand

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>twelve they produced about sixty five million tons. The US

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>is not too far behind a forty four million. Then

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you've got Germany, India and Australia as the other leading

0:30:55.800 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>top five salt producers these days. In India gets the

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>profit from in salt production thanks to Gandhi. I guess so,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>huh that's pretty neat. And think about that. The number

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>four on the list. Yeah, and they weren't even allowed

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to produce it not so long ago. No, they were

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>allowed to produce it, but all the money went to Yeah,

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>okay jerks. So there's three types of mining main three

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>main types. There's deep shaft mining, solar evaporation, and solution mining.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And deep shaft mining is basically like any other type

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of mining, where you just um, drill a shaft down

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>into a mine, which an underground sea bed is what

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>where the salt is, right, that's where you get your salt. Um. Yeah,

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that's I think that's one of the facts of the podcast. Yeah,

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:48.239
<v Speaker 1>they're ancient underground seabed, ancients beds that dried up and

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the salt remained and they formed, um these basically salt

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>deposits that can be dozens or hundreds of feet thick

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and massively wide, and you drill down into these things.

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>You create a couple of shafts, and then they usually

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>use what's called a room and pillar system, which really helps.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's very difficult to explain, but if you see a

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>picture of it it makes perfect sense. But um, you're

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>basically creating a checkerboard pattern going down in mining. The

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>salt deposits so you leave it right, Yeah, you blast

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>a room, but you leave a couple of adjacent rooms

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>for support and then um, eventually you've you've mined out

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>all the salt and then you fill it with industrial waste.

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>That is one thing they do. So that's deep shaft mining. Yeah.

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And they'll remove the salt there and crush it and

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>uh pull it to the service and further process it

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>from there, depending on what kind of salts you want

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in the end. Right. And there's this awesome mine um

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>called the Wheelishka Salt Mine in Cracow, Poland, and it

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>has a full on cathedral made out of salt. Amazing.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>They have several like chapels, but then a full cathedral

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>um and it's all made us salts in this old

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>salt mine that's not a UNESCO site um. And they

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>went to the trouble of boiling salt. It was a

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>table salt mine. They would boil this raw salt and

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>purify it and then use that purified salt to make

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>crystal chandeliers out of salt. Like, the whole cathedral is

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just salt. It's amazing looking man. Yeah, check it out.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 1>No goats allowed. They would recap it or no chucks allowed,

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>just walk around like licking stuff. They would ask you nothing. Uh.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>A deep shaft mining, by the way, I think is

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>usually rock salt is what they're producing there. And then

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>there's solution mining. Yeah, that's UM. Basically they take a

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>well over a salt bed and then inject water in

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>there and make a brine and then pump it up

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>from the underground as as a wet solution and into

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a vacuum pan, which is gonna seal it up, and

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna boil it and then evaporate it, which is

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you know how they made salt back in the old

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>days too, They would you know, boil it and evaporate

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it and then scrape the pan, right, So it's kind

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of a modern version of that. Then they dry it

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>out and refine it, and then from there they're gonna

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>either add anti clumping agents or iodine, depending on what

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>you want. And then um, with solution mining, you've got

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like a salt bed or a salt dome that's exposed

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's somehow through tectonic action. Uh, an ancient seabed

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>or salt bed has been exposed to the above ground

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like the surface of the Earth. Right, and then what's

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>what's the last one. Well, the old school solar method

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>um solar evaporation. This is when you have a salt

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>lake or seawater and wind in the sun cooperate with

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the shallow pools and they leave salt behind and you

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>can only harvested about once a year, once it reaches

0:34:55.880 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a certain level of harvestability, um of thickness and uh

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>something like we said, sometimes it's still done by hand,

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>even although it is industrialized in other places for sure.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know, they wash it, they clean it, they

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>drain it, but they leave the um a lot of

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.439
<v Speaker 1>impurities in there. And this stuff is almost a percent

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 1>pure sodium chloride. It's good stuff. And like I said,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I used the Mediterranean version generally, but Australia is a

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>big on it too, on this method. And um, we

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>should probably mention also that salt has a lot of

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 1>religious significance. It's just a it's an ancient important thing

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to mankind. Yeah, they would like use it to seal

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>important things. Yeah, in the Old Testament, which is pretty old. Uh,

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Lot's wife, I believe her name is Sarah, was it

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Ruth? Who was married a Lot turned into a

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>pillar of salt when she looked behind her. Even though,

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>guys that don't turn around, I'll turn you into a

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.479
<v Speaker 1>pillar of salt. Yeah, and she did. And apparently there's

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a there's a salt pillar at Mount ararat Um that's

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>called Lot's wife. People are like, that's her right there,

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and who who uh is it? Buddhists that board off

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>evil with salt. Yes, um Umi has a little shaker

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>of salt that her mom put in her glove compartment

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of her car. If they like flickr off on the

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>just a protector. Yeah that's nice. See I would have

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>eaten it. Yeah. Well that's why I don't let you ride.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right, one of several reasons they out of the bots,

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? I do? I have this good thing.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 1>And there's a Roman senator named Cassio Doris and he said, quote,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>mankind can live without gold, but not without salt. Who's

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that cassio key boartists? Yet? Well you got Jerry again. Yeah,

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>she's giggly today. And I have a plug because here

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta there's a a lady who makes salts. But

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 1>if you go to Facebook and type in beauty, a

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>full briny sea salt go to her Facebook page and

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>click on the about thing. You will see her lovely homemade,

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>handcrafted salts. And my favorite is the magic unicorn. See

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>if this sounds good. Sea salt is of course the

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>main ingredient smoked paprika, lemon, garlic, rosemary, and celery seed.

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Well it does sound good. It's delicious. You get some

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>broccoli and some cauliflower, some like beets and big chunks

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of garlic, throw it out the window and buy a

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>steak and put this magical unicorn on it some olive oil,

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>sprinkle it with this stuff, bake it in the oven.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Delicious to go with that steak. You know. Yeah, magic

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>unicorn is my favorite. Uh. And the black Truffle salt

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>is delicious. And then she has one called camp Fire,

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>which is smoked salt with cumin and anto chili powder.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you email info at Beautiful Briny Sea

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Salt dot com you can order some of this stuff.

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I told Emily she's frind or as I said,

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>tell her, I'm gonna plugger, so she better get her

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>little fingers working, you know, nic start making some salt. Yeah,

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>because the stuff you should army is a salty crowd

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to learn more about salt, I

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you possibly could, but if you want

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to look into it, you can type the word as

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a LT into the search bar how stuff works dot

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>com and it will bring up this article how salt works.

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>And since I said search part, that means it's time

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this. We should

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>apologize to cops. What do we do now? Well, this

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>cop wrote in and it well, I'll just read it.

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it the police chase this one? Yeah? Yeah, they

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't like that one. Hey guys, my name is Glenn.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a police officer in southern California. I've been enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast for years. I suspect our political leanings made

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<v Speaker 1>different times, but I always enjoy learning and listening to

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<v Speaker 1>different points of view. Listen to the December sev Hunt podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the police chase one. You're right, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it involves something like that. I felt it was

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<v Speaker 1>very accurate with the accept of some information you provided

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<v Speaker 1>about the l a p D. Um We batched the

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<v Speaker 1>l a p D before for their history of corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a pretty thick history of corruption, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not all bad. Ladies and men. Well, no, of course not. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that officers were super jumpy during the man

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<v Speaker 1>hunt for Christopher Dorner, which was a fair assessment. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's where you got something kind of wrong. Um. You

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<v Speaker 1>stated that the l a p D fired on two

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<v Speaker 1>uninvolved vehicles. It was the l a p D who

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<v Speaker 1>shot at one in the Torrent's Police Department shot at

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<v Speaker 1>the other. I could see how someone not from the

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<v Speaker 1>area might think they were l A p D. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the big of a deal. However, the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>mistake is that you stated that these shootings killed two people.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody was killed, So I need to go back. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw in several places that at least two people were killed, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally from those shootings. I'll go back and look again. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but Glenn Josh takes issue. Sir, Well, he's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only one who's written in I just haven't gotten around

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<v Speaker 1>going back and looking and double checking. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>while we were re searching, I came across that and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like on a forum or message board or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were in articles. Okay, well, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of it. Uh he was, Glenn says

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very surprised you would make such a statement without

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<v Speaker 1>doing your own work. I did my homework. You typically

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<v Speaker 1>appear to go to great links to fact check. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you get the feeling you guys are not the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>fans of law enforcement. UM not. And I even recognize

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<v Speaker 1>my profession shortcomings for sure, just like you, though. I

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<v Speaker 1>want facts um influencing the show, not personal opinions. And

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<v Speaker 1>this email was not intended to justify the actions of

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<v Speaker 1>those two police departments. Just to set the record straight, understood,

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<v Speaker 1>And despite the goof and the cop bashing ha ha,

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<v Speaker 1>I still love the show. That's from Glenn Um and Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate cops. I love cops. Um. We've done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like super supportive shows on law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>name talks like The Law Enforcement Dude. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like jerks, And I think a lot of times people's

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<v Speaker 1>experience with cops or when they're pulled over and not

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<v Speaker 1>being helped by a cop, which is unfortunate because they

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<v Speaker 1>do much great work. But you know, when you get

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<v Speaker 1>pulled over and you're hassled by a jerk cop, you think, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what a jerk cop. It's like eating at a bad restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Like restaurant, you tell one

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<v Speaker 1>or two people you have a bad experience at a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell like twenty people. It's like fifty fold with cops.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a lot of respect for law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, for all they do. So I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't across come across is any differently nice, very excitful

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, thanks Glenn, Yeah, thank you Glenn. I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>back in double check. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just haven't had a chance to look again. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>give them twenty licks off of a black as vault

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<v Speaker 1>from a goat, and I might die of hyper natremia. Man,

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