1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and this is Stuff 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: you should Know the podcast. Oh yeah, Jerry's over there. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: She's all laughy today for some reason. The salty dog. 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Why did salty calling someone salty? I wonder where that 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: came from. I meant to look that up. It's someone 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: I didn't look up because you know, you're in a 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: salty nod. Yeah, I've said that plenty uh and once 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: that comes from like a salty dog. Here's here, this 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: is this is my idea. Okay, so salty described somebody 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: who is a little coarse, a little rough around the edges, 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: a little upset. Hear me out because their faces usually 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: puckered into like a a sour puss face. And what 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: makes your face pucker eating salt. So there's a salty person, okay, 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: I would call them lemony. Well, so take something with 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: a grain of salt. Actually ancient that's from the romans Um. 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: They would take poison with a grain of salt, or's 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: something that was hard to swallow with a grain of 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: salt to make it go down more easily. Okay, somebody 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: not being worth their salt. In this article it says 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: that um slaves were traded with salt, and if you 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: got your hands on like a slave, that wasn't worth 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: much Like that, he wasn't worth his salt. Is that 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: not the origin I found? The first reference in print 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: came from an eighteen oh five description or book about 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: an expedition to Guinea Bissau, and it mentions a guy 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: who wasn't worth his salt. He's a good man, Peter 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Hale h a y eli um, but he wasn't worth 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: his salt, the guy said. And I looked it up 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and I couldn't find that whether Hale was hired or 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: was a slave. But I got the impression that, Um, 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: what the guy was talking about wasn't that he had 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: traded salt for hail, but not worth the salt like 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: in his body. No, he was not worth the salt, 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: meaning a salary, which supposedly salary is rooted in the 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: idea of paying someone in salt, same with soldiers salt 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: dre and to give salt salad to The word salad 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: comes from the word salt, so salt is a it's 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: a it's an important thing. Historically speaking, there's been economies 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: largely based on salt. There have been um cultures rated 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: by other cultures because of salt. Um. If you were 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: an ancient salt producing area, probably the rulers control with 44 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: the tight grip um that salt production and salt distribution um. 45 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: And that actually carried on into the modern age when 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: the when Great Britain was occupying India, they had a 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: tight control on salt production there um. And actually Gandhi 48 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: started a revolution or helped along the revolution to overthrow 49 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: British imperial power through a salt protest. He walked two 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: hundred and forty miles to the coast where the salt 51 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: production facilities were and grabbed a bit of salty clay 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: and boiled it, boiled the salt out of it, which 53 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: was an illegal act, and that protests spurred other similar protests, 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: and the British were like, oh, hey, you can't do that, mate, 55 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: you can't mind your own salt. But he did because 56 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: he was Gandhi. It was called the Salt March to 57 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: Dandhi by gand by Gandhi. Uh yeah. Salt dates back 58 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: to sixty b C. And they actually found evidence of 59 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: salt trading in prehistoric times. So obviously it's used to 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: spice food is great, but it's used to preserve food. 61 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: Was super able, yeah back in the day and still today, 62 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: because salt is one of these things. You remember, Nature 63 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: loves homeostasis, it loves balance. If you introduce salt to 64 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the mix, it kind of throws off that balance. So 65 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: to gain homeostasis, salt is introduced into say meat. It 66 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: likes to go into the meat, but it also draws 67 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: out the moisture, whether it's blood, water, whatever, so it 68 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: dries out the meat. It introduces the salt and it 69 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: draws out the moisture. That's right. That's called curing, which 70 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: preserves things because anytime bacteria comes in contact with that 71 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: salty meat, from that point on, the bacteria boom gets 72 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: dried out and dies. Yeah, that's why packaged foods are 73 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: still loaded with sodium. Unfortunately, I got some stuff on 74 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: that later. But it was used as a currency in 75 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: Ethiopia up until the twentieth century, and was used as 76 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: a form of suicide in China for nobility. They would 77 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: o d on salt and kill themselves. Oh yeah, because 78 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: it was expensive and very valuable. So nobility, that's like, 79 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: it was like a noble way to go out. And 80 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: we'll talk in a minute, like what happens when you 81 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: have too much salt? It's not very pleasant. It's not 82 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: very pleasant. But you know in medieval Europe, remember we 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: did the ten medieval torture devices this episode, well we 84 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: skipped one called the goats tongue, and it was apparently 85 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: a real thing, a tickle torture. They would dip your feet, 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: bringing a goat, and the goat would lick the bottom 87 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: of your feet and then they would dip it again. 88 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: And from that in the description, no, I'm saying like 89 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't in there. Um from the description, apparently being 90 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: tortured tickle tortured was not pleasant. I would love to 91 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: have my feet looked by a goat. They would do 92 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: it until you did not love it. That was the 93 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: point of the goats tongue to it. Sounds like fun 94 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: to me. Uh. And the Middle Ages, salt was transported 95 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: along the notorious Old Salt Route and northern Germany. I 96 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna get you for Christmas, now, a 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: go in some salt water. I've had both at the 98 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: same time. I don't know, I didn't think about it. Uh, 99 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: it was played this big role in early America as well. Yeah, 100 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: Massachusetts Bay Colony had the first pattern to produce salt 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: here in the colonies, saltwater, and uh they did so 102 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: for two hundred years. Uh. The Erie Canal opened primarily 103 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: to transport salt. Yeah, they called it the ditch that 104 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: salt built. It sounds like something you just made up. No, 105 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I swear I've been on the Erie Canal. Oh. Yeah, yeah, 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: they have this nice system of locks, and um, they 107 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: used to there's still like donkey trails from where the 108 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: donkeys used to pull these little flat bottom boats that 109 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: would carry salt and whatnot. And now yuppies walk along 110 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: those trails. Dog yuppies. A they're still yuppies. Oh yeah, thanks, Yeah, 111 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: I heard one the other day. Uh, dual income large 112 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: dog owner. All right. And the early salt was apparently 113 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: four times expensive as beef because salt was valuable obviously, 114 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and we were allows you with beef. And in Civil 115 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: War salt played a big part in the Union strategy. Um, 116 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: there were quite a few battles fault over capturing salt 117 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: works and salt mines. Yeah, in Saltville, Virginia. Yeah, I 118 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: wonder what they do there. And it actually had a 119 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: big effect on the salt shortage on the Confederate troops. Yeah, 120 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: not just the troops, but the people behind the lines 121 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: back in the Confederate States were like, we want our salt, 122 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: and they had a huge impact on morale apparently, I 123 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: would say so. And the reason why salt is so important. 124 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: If you haven't gotten the impression that it is important 125 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: by now, you should rewind the podcast and just listen 126 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: to the last several minutes over again. Yeah, salt is 127 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: extraordinarily important because the human body requires it. It's something 128 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: that we need to survive and to live, so much 129 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: so that we actually have a taste sense for it. 130 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: It's the only you don't need better to live, or 131 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: sour or umami. As a matter of fact, things like 132 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: bitter and sour are there. I think to detect things 133 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: that we shouldn't be eating. Salt is to detect something 134 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: we need that's right and we can. Actually, this is 135 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: so mind blowing to me. I love the human body. 136 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: I think it's amazingly wonderful in ways that we don't 137 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: even fully understand yet. But consider this. When you need salt, 138 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: your body produces a craving in you for salt that 139 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: is awesome. Like I'm one of those believers. I I 140 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: don't follow it necessarily myself, but in a diet, well, 141 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: no thing, But in a diet where you just eat 142 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: what you crave, I think you can go off the 143 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: rails because I think that we uh have the wrong 144 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: things now. Yes, now, but if you could go back 145 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty years, maybe I would bet you could 146 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: survive pretty easily and thrive on a diet where you 147 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: were just kind of led by your cravings, like oh 148 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: it need some megs and eat a couple of eggs, steak. 149 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: You don't know. You should pay attention to yourself, listen 150 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: to what your body is telling you, and I'll bet 151 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: you find that you do have specific cravings for specific moods, 152 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: foods that are like very simple meat like chuck go 153 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: eat a steak, Chuck go eat some eggs, like things 154 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: that are basic staples. I'll bet you'll notice you have 155 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: cravings salt. Uh. Let's let's break it down chemically. Um 156 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: it's sodium and chlorine are the two basic elements, and salt. 157 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: I think we all know this, which are electrolytes. That's right, 158 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: and we'll get into that in a minute. Um, sodium 159 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: is silvery white metal, and it is neither one of 160 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: these are like super friendly independently of one another. No, 161 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, like especially chlorine. Yeah, sodium reacts violently if 162 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: you mix it with water and oxidizes in air. Chlorine 163 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: exists in gas at a room temperature. They're both really volatile. 164 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: But when you put them together and you have sodium chloride, 165 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: they make beautiful music, makes beautiful halite, uh, and beautiful music. 166 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,119 Speaker 1: And sodium chloride is is about a sixty sodium to chloride, 167 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: by the way, is that right? Yeah? It makes little cubes, right, Yeah? 168 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: Is it? The molecules are cubicle, right. The sodium packs 169 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: in pretty tight, and then the chlorine fills in the 170 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: rest and they make tiny little cubes. It's actually reversed, 171 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, the chloride is packed and 172 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: then the sodium fills in. But you know, I would 173 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: have thought the sodium was bigger. Oh well, Um, will 174 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: you have is an A C L. That's right? And 175 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned electrolytes. Those are minerals that conduct electricity in 176 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: our body and our fluids and tissues, which is very 177 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: important important as muscle movement, we run on electricity. Heart 178 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: involuntary muscle UM moves through electrical impulse. I guess all 179 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: muscles do. Yeah, you want your eyes to blank, buddy? Yeah, 180 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: eat some salt, right, And so there's two conditions that 181 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: you can have conceivably well three, three would be just 182 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: all the systems are normal. But um, the other two 183 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: is too little salt and too much salt. And too 184 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: little salt is called hypoon atrema. Yeah, that's what that 185 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: lady died of the hold your WI for a week contest? 186 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yeah? You can o d on water, 187 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: and I guess that's what you would ultimately die from. 188 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Is hypone tremea their water toxicity. Um, if you have 189 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: too much water, you probably have too little salt, because 190 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: water flush is salt from your system is the method 191 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: that your kidneys use to maintain the balance of salt 192 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: and other electrolytes in your body. And that's why you 193 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: might drink gatorade if you're working out, because it has 194 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: electrolytes in it, right, exactly. You don't want to water 195 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: your crop land with it, though, as we found from 196 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: the movie Idiocracy. Yeah, and actually found too that in 197 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties there was a lot of controversy over 198 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: salting roads killing roadside vegetation. Well, yeah, for sure. I 199 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: mean like that, if you were into conquests and that 200 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and you wanted to make sure that 201 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: the land you just occupied couldn't be used to grow 202 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: crops to feed an imposing armor army, you would plow 203 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: the land with salt. Salt the earth, yeah, which is 204 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: not the salt of the earth, because that means you're 205 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: a good fellah, but not a good fella because those 206 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: guys are salty. Wow, look at you. That was that 207 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: was a team effort. Clever wordplay, my friend. Uh. If 208 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you take diuretics um or you have like massive diarrhea 209 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: for a period of days, or vomiting or some sort 210 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: of stomach bug, you might be at risk for hyponatremia. Yeah, 211 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: because you're flushing out all of this, all of your 212 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: electual lights. This is salt that your body needs. So 213 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: if it's out of balance, you're going to suffer things like, um, well, 214 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: an inability for your heart to beat, which is often fatal. Yea, 215 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: kidney problems, yeah, um on the other hand, you can 216 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: have hypernit tremia, which is too much salt, and like 217 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: you said, if you're a Chinese aristocrat, um, you may 218 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: die from hyper netremia. Yeah. They even had a m 219 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: man sometimes a blanket on word how to manual. Well, 220 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: it's sort of like how many grams of salt you 221 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: needed per pound in your body? That like a chart. 222 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: I guess if you want to kill yourself in China, 223 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: yours I you do it. Yeah, there's so much salt 224 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: you need? That was ro is he like that? Yeah? 225 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm off today. No, you know, I'm a little off. 226 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: You were on my my microphone just swerved to the left, 227 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: but were happening. There's a ghost in here. Um, so 228 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: too much sodium, I think you said already is hypern 229 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: tremia instead of hypo hyper hyper hypo exactly. It's like glacemia, 230 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: but with no tremia exactly, and with hypernutremia. Basically, remember 231 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: how salt if you um, if you introduce it to say, 232 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: a jerky of some sort, it will dry it out. Yes, 233 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: it's just a shameful thing to do. Um. If you 234 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: introduce it to a meat or something like that, it's 235 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: going to dry it out because through osmosis in search 236 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: of homeostasis, um, it does the same thing to your 237 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: blood and your extracellular fluids. That salt will draw out 238 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: the fluids in your cells, but will maintain it in 239 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: your blood. It's water retention basically. Yeah, your kidneys, when 240 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: it has too much salt to deal with, kicks it 241 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: around the blood supply. Just like remember in the hangover 242 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: episode when you why drugs are so fatal when you 243 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: drink a lot of alcohol because your kidneys are trying 244 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: to process your the alcohol, so it keeps the drugs 245 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: just going around and around in your blood supply. Same 246 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: thing with too much salt. If your kidneys have too 247 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: much to deal with, they just keep the excess going 248 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: around in your blood. And since that salt is drawing 249 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: out all the excess moisture and increase is the volume 250 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: of your blood, which makes your blood pressure rise, which 251 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: makes your heart beat, yes, which supposedly logically would put 252 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: you at risk for a stroker heart attack, and that's 253 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: how you would die from hypernatremia. Yeah, I have high 254 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: blood pressure. Well, supposedly sodium. Cutting your sodium down isn't 255 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: going to help. Yeah, there's a lot of conflicting data 256 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: on that for sure. Um, well we'll get to nutrition soon. 257 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: We'll cover that. Well, how about before we move on, 258 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: do you want to do a message break? So chuck. Um. 259 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: They're like you said, there's a lot of controversy over 260 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: how much salt or how little salt you should have 261 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: on a daily basis in your diet. Yeah. Um, the 262 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Heart National Heart, Blood and Long Institute say no more 263 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: than two point four grams of sodium. It's about a 264 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: teaspoon per day. Americans they found consume an average of 265 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: a about three point four per day, So that's one 266 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: gram too much on average. And um, you actually don't 267 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: need more than about a half a gram a day 268 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: if you want to maintain that stasis. So yeah, just 269 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: for your electro light intake. The thing is, though, um, 270 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: there was for many years because it makes sense that 271 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: if you're if too much salt increases your blood pressure, 272 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: then too much salt should be um, should put you 273 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: at risk for strokes and heart attacks. Right. Well, the 274 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: CDC panel surveyed material and all did and all all 275 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: sorts of studies that found no, cutting your sodium intake 276 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: doesn't really doesn't decrease your risk of heart attack or stroke. 277 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, there is was it 278 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: just more hereditary. They don't know what it is. They 279 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: just know that basically below three thousand grams or three 280 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: thousand milligrams of salt and above seven thousand mill grams 281 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: of salt a day were two groups that were at 282 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: higher risk of heart attack. So if you have too 283 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: little salt, you're at higher risk of heart attack. To okay, 284 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: so try to keep it between three thousand and four 285 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: thousand milligrams three thousand and seven th The thing is 286 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: is they they don't They weren't comfortable making any recommendation. 287 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: They were just sayone scared, this is what we found. 288 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: Everyone scared, like, go on the record, yeah, because we 289 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: just don't know. Like, it doesn't make any sense that 290 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: you would have a heart attack if you ate less 291 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: than three grams of sault today. That that flies in 292 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: the face of of um conventional wisdom, and nobody's figured 293 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: out why yet. Interesting, Well, it's something you should monitor 294 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: at the very least, because I think a lot of 295 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: people look at fat grams and calories and all that 296 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: stuff is great to look at nutritionally, but um, when 297 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: you start poking around on the soup can and you see, Wow, 298 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: this chicken noodle soup has milligrams of sodium, but it's 299 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: so good. And this one little can which is almost 300 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: a gram of sodium, yeah close to it. A quarter 301 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: pounder with bacon and cheese. You didn't do Big Max, 302 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Now I should have been communist. I think Big Max. 303 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: Actually I did see this is milligrams. The big Mac 304 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: I think was around leven pounds more. With the bacon. 305 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: I think they have like a whole bacon onion ranch 306 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: or something topping that you can put on quarter pounders. 307 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: Now I've not yet tried this, but like I think 308 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: about it from time to time, like right now, yeah, 309 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: right now, especially uh so at anyway, just give it 310 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: a look. Like soups are notoriously high in sodium. Package 311 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: foods are notoriously high in sodium. Um, don't just think 312 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: about the table salt that you use, Like, oh, I 313 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: didn't salt my food that much today. You need a 314 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: lot of package food or eating a lot of sodium. Yeah, 315 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: and nobody can tell you how much you should be 316 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: eating or shouldn't be eating. But like you said, it's 317 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: good to just pay attention to that kind of thing, 318 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: because you probably are eating a lot more than you realize, 319 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: and you should be eating a lot of package food anyway, 320 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead and say that, so um chuck, Yes, 321 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: what kinds of salt are there? Well, first of all, 322 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I should say I love salt to Salt and pepper 323 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: are my favorite two spices. I'm from the South, have 324 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: a taste for salt um and pork fat. Yeah that's 325 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: pretty southern too, Yeah for sure. Uh So I love salt. 326 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I like good Mediterranean sea salt. That's what I used 327 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: at my house. Uh and I'm gonna plug this local saltier. 328 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: I just made that word up oh later in the show. Okay, 329 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: But um, I'm a big salt fan. I like salt too. 330 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: I like sweet, I like ummi, I like um sour. 331 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm training myself to like bitter through the use of kampari. Yeah. 332 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Like I I've found out that I'm a bitter super taster. So, 333 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: like things that seem like normal to other people are 334 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: like really bitter to me. Like one example, fruit, Yeah, 335 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: but it's like like it just gustingly bitter to me. 336 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: Like I can't understand how the rest of humanity eats 337 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: grape fruit. I don't like grapefruit. Well, maybe you're a 338 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: bitter super taster too, But I have to tell you this, 339 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: I've trained myself to like um, grapefruit and coompari just 340 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: by exposure, like I've come to appreciate them. With campari, 341 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: it's a bar like a bitter DIGESTI for Appritif you 342 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: do like a campari and soda, it's in a negrowning right. Oh, 343 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: I think I've seen people like if their stomachs upset 344 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: or is that bitters and soda? Well, campari is a 345 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: type of bitters. It's not that super compact bitters like angustura, 346 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: but it is a type of bitter. I think it's 347 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: a DIGESTI Okay, it's good stuff anyway. I like salt. 348 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: What I'm really saying there is I like well seasoned food. 349 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: And if you're a chef or a home chef, you 350 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: know that salt is important to cooking, super important and 351 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: baking obviously, but bland food can't do it. No, what's 352 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: the point. What is the point? Agreed? Types of salt, 353 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: well start with table salt and and like man, if 354 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: your if your doctor put you on like a bland 355 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: food diet, I feel for you. But there's stuff out 356 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: there you can eat. There's spike, there's Mrs Dash, there's 357 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: you should be seasoning your food to some extent, like 358 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: bland food is is like it's bland life. Yeah. They 359 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: even have the imitation salt of the New and New salt. 360 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: I didn't do any research on that, but I've bought 361 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: it before. You do you like it? I didn't use 362 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: it that much, but it's it exists in my home 363 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: thanks to the empty thing of Mediterranean sea salt. Yeah, 364 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: all right, it's the table salt is the first one 365 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: we should cover. That's the traditional um either iodized or 366 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: non iodized, fine grained salt that you see in many 367 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: many homes and restaurants, and it's IDEs. They did a 368 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: little research into this. Did you look up iodie salt? Yeah, well, 369 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean I know that they they added it because 370 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: at one point it was like fluoride. They thought, well, 371 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: we need this in a good place to put it 372 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: in salt. Yeah, because most people use salt, and we'll 373 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: just put it into table salt because it's an easy additive. 374 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: But um, there was a real problem with hyper thyroidism, 375 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: things like Goiter's mental retardation. UM just poor fetal development 376 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: linked to um iodine deficiency. So they put it in salt, 377 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: and apparently there it's considered to be responsible for this 378 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: thing called the Flynn effect, which there was like a 379 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: three i Q point rise in the middle of the 380 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: twentieth century in western nations and nobody could figure out 381 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: what it is. And they think now that it was 382 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: because they added iodine to salt, and so it had 383 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: the aggregate effect of raising our i Q by um 384 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: preventing poor fetal development. Yeah. Well, it's still a problem 385 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: in other parts of the world, just not here in 386 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: North America, right, other parts of the world that don't 387 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: have IDI salt. You know, dumb they are. Oh man, 388 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: that was terrible. I'm just kidding. You need to apologize 389 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. I'm sorry everybody. Uh So, 390 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: like I said, table saw, this is the most common salt. Uh. 391 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: They remove all the impurities. Um. They have things in 392 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: there to make it not clump and stick together, and 393 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: so it pours freely, so even when it rains, it pours. Well, 394 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: should we get to that. Yeah, don't you have something 395 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: on that? Yeah? The UM I just for some reason 396 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: thought of the Morton salt girl, and like every great 397 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: advertising story, they were like, how do we It was 398 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: sort of a new thing at the time, in nineteen 399 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: eleven two package salt this way in a container with 400 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: a spout. How they package it before? I don't know, 401 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: the blocks, probably like a deer like or something. I'm 402 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: not sure actually, but I know that this was a 403 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: fairly revolutionary product to package it like this and process 404 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: it like this. Um So the agency was um In 405 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: w Air and Company, and Don Draper walks in and says, 406 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: they've got twelve proposals for you, which one do you like? 407 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: And Sterling Morton of the Morton Company, of course, it's 408 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: always someone else, like his son or his wife or something. 409 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: It was his son in secretary. Um pointed toward one 410 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: of the ads with a little girl holding the umbrella 411 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: and said this is the one, And he said, you 412 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: know what, I think you guys are right. The whole 413 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: story is right there in the picture. Because the whole 414 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: point was this salt doesn't clump when it rains at poors, 415 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: and the little girls can't be trusted to be sent 416 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: to the store by themselves because they ruin all the salt. 417 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Keeping the nozzle open on the way home. Uh. Some 418 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: of the different um slogans they had was flows freely, 419 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: runs freely, pours, it never rains, but it pours. And 420 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: then they finally settled on when it rains at poors. Yeah, 421 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: that's the best because it never rains but it pors. 422 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense. They probably fired that person. And 423 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: she's been updated one to three, four five times. Oh 424 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: really yeah, the last time in nineteen sixty eight and 425 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: she's been the same since then. And there was never 426 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 1: a real model for that girl. That's a question they 427 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: often get. She totally made up. Yeah, because he was like, 428 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: it's Morton's granddaughters. What you know, you want to thank 429 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: Selma Selma Morton. So that is the story of the Sken. 430 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: That's an old timing name. If ever there was one 431 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: that's a college right, No, it's like a person's name. Well, 432 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: it's a college too. Had a friend that played soccer 433 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: there e r s k I ny there's a college 434 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: named Colgate too. It's like crazy to me, Uh, Sea 435 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: Salt Sir is next. Uh. It's gonna cost you some 436 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: more money because of several reasons, one of which if 437 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: they go old school and In some parts of France, 438 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: they still harvest the stuff by hand, which is pretty cool. 439 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: You might see it called flair to sell, which is 440 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: French for flower of salt, and uh, it's not processed 441 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: like table salt is. So you're gonna have a lot 442 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: of those trace minerals. It's gonna be coarse and flaky, 443 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and it colors it too. It can for sure, like 444 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: you can have white sea salt, pink, black, gray, or 445 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: a combination of them. Pink salts are traditionally associated with 446 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: him alay and salt um, and there the pink is 447 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: often for the result of things like copper or iron 448 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: or apparently um. There's a type that contains an algae, 449 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: a salt tolerant algae, which would make it an extreme 450 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: aphile um. That gives it has the beta caroteen pigment 451 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: in it, and that gives it a pinkish hue. That salt. 452 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: You're eating algae, pink algae in your salt, which is 453 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: pretty neat. That is pretty neat, and that that's Hawaiian, right. 454 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: A lot of times Hawaii has a different one and alaya, 455 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Oh I read that as algae, Yeah, I did too. 456 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: A couple of times and I was like, why would 457 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: they separate these two out there's no g No, it's 458 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: a Hawaiian Alaya salt has iron oxide in it from 459 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: the volcanoes. Oh, that makes sense. And WHOI also produces 460 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: black salt too from the lava. Yeah, in a little 461 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: bit of charcoal. I'll have to try some of those actually, 462 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: and yeah, and then there's gray salts to um, which 463 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: is uh, there's cell gree which is from France. And 464 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: then smoked salt is also gray, where they just take 465 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: some salt and smoke it. Yeah, they put it over 466 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: a smoky fire, and you have smoked salt. Do you 467 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: like smoky foods sometimes? Yeah, it could be a little 468 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: overbearing for me at times. Yeah, in the hands of 469 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, I guess somebody who knows what they're doing 470 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: with the smoked It's like, I like a good smoked meat, 471 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: little day type of thing, but not necessarily like you know, 472 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: when they add like artificial smoke in the kitchen to 473 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: it to a meal. You know what I'm saying. Although 474 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: smoked cheese is good, oh yeah, man, good smokey. And 475 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: thanks to fan Hillary Lozar from for sending us some 476 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: great cheese. Yeah, that was very good to you. I 477 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: had some of that smoked goody yesterday. Actually when I 478 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: got home, I haven't had it yet. Is it good? 479 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: And as soon as I walked in the door, I 480 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: got a knife out. It's like, I gotta try this stuff. 481 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah's delicious anyway, Thanks Hilary. Um So, chefs and Gormond's 482 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: will say sea salt is what you want to be 483 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: using because you're gonna get a unique flavor from those 484 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: minerals that are not in table salt. I agree with them. 485 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: It's tough to bake with though, Yeah, it's tough to measure. 486 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: You get a lot more precise measuring, for sure from 487 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: table salt. And they don't recommend you bake with sea salt, no, 488 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: because baking is a specific chemical reaction. Cooking is different. Yeah, 489 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: they say that they most chefs don't cook with sea salt, 490 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: but they will just add it as a topper. But 491 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: I've cooked with sea salt and I have no plenty 492 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: of chefs that cooked with sea salt, So I disagree 493 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: with that. Um Well, they with the topper, they mean 494 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: like it's a finishing salt. It brings out like all 495 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: the flavors if you sprinkle it on them. Yeah, I 496 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: mean it's definitely used, but I've also seen it used 497 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: in the food right so well, that leads us to 498 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: kash your salt. Apparently some people like to cook with 499 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: kosher salt. And if you are using following a recipe 500 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: and you're switching out the whatever amount of salt is 501 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: called for, you want to double it because kasher salt 502 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: is larger, coarse grained salt. And here to me is 503 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: a fact of the podcast, want to several Kosher salt 504 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: is not necessarily kosher itself. It's used to make things kosher. 505 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: That I didn't. I thought kasher salt was like salt 506 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: that had been blessed by a rabbi or something. Really 507 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: I never understood it, but now I do. It's it's 508 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: salt they used to make things kosher. If you use 509 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: table salt UH to make something kosher, it's not gonna work. 510 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: Kasher salt because it's large and coarse grained. UH makes 511 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: meat kosher by drawing the blood out because eating blood 512 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: ain't kosher. So if you salt it with kosher salt, 513 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna draw the blood out of the meat. Then bam, 514 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: you have a kosher cut of steak baby boom. And 515 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: it's not iodized either, right by the way. Um. And 516 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: then we have the redheaded step child of the salt family, 517 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: rock salt, which is used. Um. It's got a lot 518 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: of impurities, it's unrefined, it's very large grained, and it's 519 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: used to melt ice on roads and sidewalks and to 520 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: make homemade ice cream. Yeah, and probably some other stuff. 521 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: But do you know of any other uses? I think 522 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: rock salts used in um, some chemical productions. That makes sense. Um, 523 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: if you want to make a good industrial brine, rock 524 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: salts your your man. Yeah, alright, salt mining, that's how 525 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: you get salt, because it is a natural thing that 526 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: exists in the earth. UM. The largest producer of salt 527 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: these days, no surprise, is China. UM. In two thousand 528 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: twelve they produced about sixty five million tons. The US 529 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: is not too far behind a forty four million. Then 530 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: you've got Germany, India and Australia as the other leading 531 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: top five salt producers these days. In India gets the 532 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: profit from in salt production thanks to Gandhi. I guess so, 533 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: huh that's pretty neat. And think about that. The number 534 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: four on the list. Yeah, and they weren't even allowed 535 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: to produce it not so long ago. No, they were 536 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: allowed to produce it, but all the money went to Yeah, 537 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: okay jerks. So there's three types of mining main three 538 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: main types. There's deep shaft mining, solar evaporation, and solution mining. 539 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: And deep shaft mining is basically like any other type 540 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: of mining, where you just um, drill a shaft down 541 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: into a mine, which an underground sea bed is what 542 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: where the salt is, right, that's where you get your salt. Um. Yeah, 543 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: that's I think that's one of the facts of the podcast. Yeah, 544 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: they're ancient underground seabed, ancients beds that dried up and 545 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: the salt remained and they formed, um these basically salt 546 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: deposits that can be dozens or hundreds of feet thick 547 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: and massively wide, and you drill down into these things. 548 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: You create a couple of shafts, and then they usually 549 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: use what's called a room and pillar system, which really helps. 550 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to explain, but if you see a 551 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: picture of it it makes perfect sense. But um, you're 552 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: basically creating a checkerboard pattern going down in mining. The 553 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: salt deposits so you leave it right, Yeah, you blast 554 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: a room, but you leave a couple of adjacent rooms 555 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: for support and then um, eventually you've you've mined out 556 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: all the salt and then you fill it with industrial waste. 557 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: That is one thing they do. So that's deep shaft mining. Yeah. 558 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: And they'll remove the salt there and crush it and 559 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: uh pull it to the service and further process it 560 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: from there, depending on what kind of salts you want 561 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: in the end. Right. And there's this awesome mine um 562 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: called the Wheelishka Salt Mine in Cracow, Poland, and it 563 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: has a full on cathedral made out of salt. Amazing. 564 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: They have several like chapels, but then a full cathedral 565 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: um and it's all made us salts in this old 566 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: salt mine that's not a UNESCO site um. And they 567 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: went to the trouble of boiling salt. It was a 568 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: table salt mine. They would boil this raw salt and 569 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: purify it and then use that purified salt to make 570 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: crystal chandeliers out of salt. Like, the whole cathedral is 571 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: just salt. It's amazing looking man. Yeah, check it out. 572 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: No goats allowed. They would recap it or no chucks allowed, 573 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: just walk around like licking stuff. They would ask you nothing. Uh. 574 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: A deep shaft mining, by the way, I think is 575 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: usually rock salt is what they're producing there. And then 576 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: there's solution mining. Yeah, that's UM. Basically they take a 577 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: well over a salt bed and then inject water in 578 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: there and make a brine and then pump it up 579 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: from the underground as as a wet solution and into 580 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: a vacuum pan, which is gonna seal it up, and 581 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna boil it and then evaporate it, which is 582 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: you know how they made salt back in the old 583 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: days too, They would you know, boil it and evaporate 584 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: it and then scrape the pan, right, So it's kind 585 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: of a modern version of that. Then they dry it 586 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: out and refine it, and then from there they're gonna 587 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: either add anti clumping agents or iodine, depending on what 588 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: you want. And then um, with solution mining, you've got 589 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: like a salt bed or a salt dome that's exposed 590 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: because it's somehow through tectonic action. Uh, an ancient seabed 591 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: or salt bed has been exposed to the above ground 592 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: like the surface of the Earth. Right, and then what's 593 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: what's the last one. Well, the old school solar method 594 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: um solar evaporation. This is when you have a salt 595 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: lake or seawater and wind in the sun cooperate with 596 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: the shallow pools and they leave salt behind and you 597 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: can only harvested about once a year, once it reaches 598 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: a certain level of harvestability, um of thickness and uh 599 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: something like we said, sometimes it's still done by hand, 600 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: even although it is industrialized in other places for sure. 601 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: But you know, they wash it, they clean it, they 602 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: drain it, but they leave the um a lot of 603 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: impurities in there. And this stuff is almost a percent 604 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: pure sodium chloride. It's good stuff. And like I said, 605 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: I used the Mediterranean version generally, but Australia is a 606 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: big on it too, on this method. And um, we 607 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: should probably mention also that salt has a lot of 608 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: religious significance. It's just a it's an ancient important thing 609 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: to mankind. Yeah, they would like use it to seal 610 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: important things. Yeah, in the Old Testament, which is pretty old. Uh, 611 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: Lot's wife, I believe her name is Sarah, was it 612 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: Sarah Ruth? Who was married a Lot turned into a 613 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: pillar of salt when she looked behind her. Even though, 614 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: guys that don't turn around, I'll turn you into a 615 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: pillar of salt. Yeah, and she did. And apparently there's 616 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: a there's a salt pillar at Mount ararat Um that's 617 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: called Lot's wife. People are like, that's her right there, 618 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: and who who uh is it? Buddhists that board off 619 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: evil with salt. Yes, um Umi has a little shaker 620 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: of salt that her mom put in her glove compartment 621 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: of her car. If they like flickr off on the 622 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: just a protector. Yeah that's nice. See I would have 623 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: eaten it. Yeah. Well that's why I don't let you ride. 624 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: That's right, one of several reasons they out of the bots, 625 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: you got anything else? I do? I have this good thing. 626 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: And there's a Roman senator named Cassio Doris and he said, quote, 627 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: mankind can live without gold, but not without salt. Who's 628 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: that cassio key boartists? Yet? Well you got Jerry again. Yeah, 629 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: she's giggly today. And I have a plug because here 630 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: in Atlanta there's a a lady who makes salts. But 631 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: if you go to Facebook and type in beauty, a 632 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: full briny sea salt go to her Facebook page and 633 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: click on the about thing. You will see her lovely homemade, 634 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: handcrafted salts. And my favorite is the magic unicorn. See 635 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: if this sounds good. Sea salt is of course the 636 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: main ingredient smoked paprika, lemon, garlic, rosemary, and celery seed. 637 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: Well it does sound good. It's delicious. You get some 638 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: broccoli and some cauliflower, some like beets and big chunks 639 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: of garlic, throw it out the window and buy a 640 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: steak and put this magical unicorn on it some olive oil, 641 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: sprinkle it with this stuff, bake it in the oven. 642 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: Delicious to go with that steak. You know. Yeah, magic 643 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: unicorn is my favorite. Uh. And the black Truffle salt 644 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: is delicious. And then she has one called camp Fire, 645 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: which is smoked salt with cumin and anto chili powder. 646 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: And uh, if you email info at Beautiful Briny Sea 647 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: Salt dot com you can order some of this stuff. 648 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: And I told Emily she's frind or as I said, 649 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: tell her, I'm gonna plugger, so she better get her 650 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: little fingers working, you know, nic start making some salt. Yeah, 651 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: because the stuff you should army is a salty crowd 652 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: So if you want to learn more about salt, I 653 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: don't know how you possibly could, but if you want 654 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: to look into it, you can type the word as 655 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: a LT into the search bar how stuff works dot 656 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: com and it will bring up this article how salt works. 657 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: And since I said search part, that means it's time 658 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this. We should 659 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: apologize to cops. What do we do now? Well, this 660 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: cop wrote in and it well, I'll just read it. 661 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: Is it the police chase this one? Yeah? Yeah, they 662 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: didn't like that one. Hey guys, my name is Glenn. 663 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm a police officer in southern California. I've been enjoying 664 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: the podcast for years. I suspect our political leanings made 665 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: different times, but I always enjoy learning and listening to 666 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: different points of view. Listen to the December sev Hunt podcast. 667 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: That's not the police chase one. You're right, but I 668 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: think it involves something like that. I felt it was 669 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: very accurate with the accept of some information you provided 670 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: about the l a p D. Um We batched the 671 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: l a p D before for their history of corruption. 672 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: They have a pretty thick history of corruption, but they're 673 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: not all bad. Ladies and men. Well, no, of course not. Um. 674 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned that officers were super jumpy during the man 675 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: hunt for Christopher Dorner, which was a fair assessment. But 676 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: here's where you got something kind of wrong. Um. You 677 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: stated that the l a p D fired on two 678 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: uninvolved vehicles. It was the l a p D who 679 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: shot at one in the Torrent's Police Department shot at 680 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: the other. I could see how someone not from the 681 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: area might think they were l A p D. So 682 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: it's not the big of a deal. However, the bigger 683 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: mistake is that you stated that these shootings killed two people. 684 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: Nobody was killed, So I need to go back. I 685 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: saw in several places that at least two people were killed, Yeah, 686 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: accidentally from those shootings. I'll go back and look again. Okay, 687 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: but Glenn Josh takes issue. Sir, Well, he's not the 688 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: only one who's written in I just haven't gotten around 689 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: going back and looking and double checking. But I mean, 690 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: while we were re searching, I came across that and 691 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't like on a forum or message board or something. 692 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: I think they were in articles. Okay, well, we'll get 693 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. Uh he was, Glenn says 694 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm very surprised you would make such a statement without 695 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: doing your own work. I did my homework. You typically 696 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: appear to go to great links to fact check. Sometimes 697 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: you get the feeling you guys are not the biggest 698 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: fans of law enforcement. UM not. And I even recognize 699 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: my profession shortcomings for sure, just like you, though. I 700 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: want facts um influencing the show, not personal opinions. And 701 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: this email was not intended to justify the actions of 702 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: those two police departments. Just to set the record straight, understood, 703 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: And despite the goof and the cop bashing ha ha, 704 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: I still love the show. That's from Glenn Um and Glenn, 705 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: I don't hate cops. I love cops. Um. We've done 706 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: a lot of like super supportive shows on law enforcement, 707 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: name talks like The Law Enforcement Dude. But I don't 708 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: like jerks, And I think a lot of times people's 709 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: experience with cops or when they're pulled over and not 710 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: being helped by a cop, which is unfortunate because they 711 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: do much great work. But you know, when you get 712 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: pulled over and you're hassled by a jerk cop, you think, man, 713 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: what a jerk cop. It's like eating at a bad restaurant. 714 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like restaurant, you tell one 715 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: or two people you have a bad experience at a restaurant, 716 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: you tell like twenty people. It's like fifty fold with cops. 717 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: So we have a lot of respect for law enforcement 718 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: for sure, for all they do. So I hope that 719 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: doesn't across come across is any differently nice, very excitful 720 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: to Yeah, thanks Glenn, Yeah, thank you Glenn. I'll go 721 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: back in double check. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. 722 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: I just haven't had a chance to look again. We'll 723 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: give them twenty licks off of a black as vault 724 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 1: from a goat, and I might die of hyper natremia. Man, 725 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: that wrapped it all up right there. If you want 726 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: to get in touch with me and chuck to correct us, 727 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: take issue with something we said, whatever, um, you can 728 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: tweet to us at s Y s K Podcast. You 729 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: can join us on Facebook dot com, slash Stuff you 730 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: Should Know. 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