1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirchen. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkchen, and 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: tonight game one of the World Series, the Dodgers and 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. I am so ready for it to 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: kick off. Dad, this is our this is our World 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Series celebration. 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Episode, if you will, right and Jeff, I've covered every 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: World Series since nineteen eighty one, and I don't care 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: how corny this sounds. I'm sixty eight years old now 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to go to the World Series again. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: It is that kind of an event. So I'm not 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: going to give you all my World Series highlights are 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: way too many. I forget how many of you been 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: to Jeff. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: I've been to five World Series games, if my memory 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: serves me, and all of them hold a very significant 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: spot in my heart. So the first one I was 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: only five, nineteen ninety eight Yankee Stadium, Tino Martinez hit 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: a grand Slam. I remember, And I want you to confirm, Dad, 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: were we kind of in like were we up a 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: little bit of the nosebleed area in right field? 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: Yes? I had to get I paid for tickette. 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I need it break. 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, what, as long as you're in 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: the ballpark, it really doesn't matter where you're sitting, especially 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: when you're five years old. I'll give you a thousand dollars, Jeff, 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: Who did Tino Martinez hit the home run? Off? I'll 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: give you one thousand dollars. You'll never get it. Do 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: you want me to tell. 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: You give me the Give me the guy's first name, Mark, 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: that's not helpful. 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't get it. Who. I want me to give 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: you his last name too, Yeah, give me his last 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: name that I'll nail it. His name is Mark Langston, 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Mark Langston. Right, Sorry about that, Jeff, Yeah, yeah, Okay, 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: it's okay. 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I was only five years old, Dad, I just got 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: out of diapers. Basically, next couple twenty sixteen, the greatest 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: World Series game I have ever been to? Game seven, 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs Cleveland then Indians in Cleveland, standing room only ticket. 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: I bought a sprite, a bottled water, and a hot 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: dog and found a standing room only spot on the 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: third baseline. Dad, and seeing Chicago fans sitting in terrible 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: seats or standing room only, keeping score, saying I needed 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: to be here, telling me how much money they spent 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: on their tickets to make sure they were in the 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: ballpark if the Cubs broke that curse the Cleveland fans. 48 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I was a radio host in Cleveland at that time, 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: and I mean, it was the curse against the curse. 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: It was everybody had a team to root for, because 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the whole country would have loved to see either organization 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: win Game seven, unbelievable rain delay, extra innings. It was the. 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Best and one of the greatest games ever played. Now. 54 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: I remember getting back to the hotel one point thirty 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: in the morning and there was a man of out 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: my age and older. Wow, he wasn't as old as me, 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: but he was a Cubs fan and he was in tears, 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: and I just kind of asked him, are you okay? 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: And he said, I just call my dad. He's never 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: been he's never seen the Cubs win the World Series 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: until tonight. I just called him and he was crying 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: on the other end, and he made a son cry 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: there in Cleveland. And I cried a little bit during 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: that game too, Jeff, I'll never forget. I've only been 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: really screamed at, like in a derisive manner a couple 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: times when I'm on TV. It's which I guess is good. 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: So I'm doing a live shot during that game, and 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: this guy walks by me and screams, Tim, get a tailor, man. 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: So I guess as soon I was wearing didn't fit 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: particularly well, so he told me to get a tailor. 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: All right? So what else? After twenty sixteen? 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen, another very memorable game eighteen innings at Dodger 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Stadium between the Red Sox and the Dodgers. Longest World 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Series game of all time? Am I correct in saying. 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: That that is correct? So? 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I was at that game at Dodger Stadium, not my 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: first game at Dodger Stadium, but it was a great one. 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: This is for mom and mom only, okay, you know 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: how much she loves Travis kelcey. Okay, gosh. So we 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: went down because this is RAVI and Wardo and I 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: and we have to run on the field as soon 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: as the game is over to do baseball tonight. So 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: we went down in the eighth inning and we're standing 84 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: for like four innings until some seats opened up, and 85 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: then we sat for the final like six innings in 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: the stands watching the game. And it never ended. But 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: we were sitting like two rows away from Travis Kelcey. 88 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: How about that? And he was well, obviously i'd never 89 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: seen him before. He's gigantic. It was so cool. So 90 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: I don't even think I told mom, who loves Travis kelcey, 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: and he thinks she thinks he's the greatest and all that. Yeah, 92 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: I actually met him. 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: A thousand dollars. Who is Travis kelsey fiance? Please tell me. 94 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: You know this? I know it's Taylor Swift. She's great. 95 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: I know much more about Billy Swift because he was 96 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: a really good reliever for the Mariners and for the Giants. 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: Had a great hard sinker. But that that's how my 98 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: life operates. Taylor Swift, Billy Swift. I know more about 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: Billy Swift, who went to Maine? All right? 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Next World Series game on my list was the following year, 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I flew back to Washington, DC to go 102 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: to see the Nationals Astros. Correct me if I'm wrong? 103 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: Is that the only World Series where no home team 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: won a game? I? 105 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that is true. There's no doubt it happened. 106 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: I should say no team won at a home game 107 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: and it went seven games, seven games, yeah, and the 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: The visiting team won every game. So the Nats came 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 2: home for their first World Series since nineteen twenty five, 111 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: and granted they won it, but they played three games, 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: lost them all at home, and then went to Houston 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: and one two. It was. It was phenomenal. 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: Naturally, my buddies, a lot of my buddies, you know, 115 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: we grew up outside DC. Like, we had a guy 116 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: at each game, game three, four, and five, and I 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: was at I believe it was four, and we were 118 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: all texting like, man, we stink, like go up two oh, 119 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: and then you're down three to two going back to Houston, 120 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: and then you win the World Series, which is crazy. 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: And then last but certainly not least, I saw a 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: no hitter in twenty twenty two, a combined no hitter, 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the Astros beating the Philadelphia Phillies, and I brought my 124 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: wife Emily, God bless her heart. We were just infatuated 125 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: with the Phillies. We had just moved to Philadelphia six 126 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: months prior. They make it to the World Series in 127 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: this just kind of crazy fashion turn around in the 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: middle of the summer, and she looks at me after 129 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: he goes, this is the most boring game I've ever 130 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: been to. Now, granted we did, Dad take her to 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, game four of the NLCS where the Padres 132 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: scored four runs at the top of the first and 133 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: the Phillies scored like six in the bottom of the first, 134 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: So it's like ten runs or something ridiculous like that. 135 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: And what happens the next World Series game that we 136 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: weren't at. Kyle Schwarber leads the game off with a homer, 137 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: So here we are. We just needed one more at 138 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: bat to see anything happen. 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, I think Emily called it the worst game 140 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: she's ever seen in her life, and then we had 141 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: to explain the significance and it's only the second no 142 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: hitter slash perfect game in the history of the World Series. 143 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: I think she understood a little better after that that 144 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: she saw history. But when you're a Phillies fan and 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: you get no hits, I certainly understood how she viewed 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: that game. 147 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: So, Dad, those were my five World Series games, And 148 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, there was a little bit of me when 149 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I went twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, I said, I got 150 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: to start making this a tradition. If it's reasonable to 151 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: get there. I got to figure it out. And then 152 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: of course twenty twenty happens and nobody's going to games, 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: and so I kind of abandoned it at. 154 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: That right and having children and everything makes it a 155 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: little bit harder to get up. 156 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Those darn kids totally ruining it. 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: Right now, Jeff, My World Series experience kind of start 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: to nineteen sixty six. That was the first World Series 159 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: that I actually understood kind of what I was watching. 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: I was ninety years old, okay, so I knew what 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: baseball was. I love baseball, I worship baseball. I played 162 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: it every day. But to actually understand and remember the 163 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: playing of the game Orioles against the Dodgers, that's where 164 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: it all started kind of for me. I mean, I 165 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: remember the sixty five World Series, but I just remember 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: much more vividly in sixty six, and I'll never forget. 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: I was so bored because I was so anxious to 168 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: get the World Series started that I just tried to 169 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: go kill some time. As a nine year old. So 170 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: I went into the garage of our house on Stoneam Road, 171 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: and I just just started to jump on the lawnmower. 172 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: You know. It was a push and I was just 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: like riding it like it was a scooter or something, 174 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: and of course I fell and I cut my knee 175 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: wide open. It required stitches later that night, but I 176 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: sat around with a giant gash in my right knee 177 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: because I was so bored waiting for the Orioles and 178 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: the Dodgers to start. So that's kind of how my 179 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: World Series experiences began. But it was much more important 180 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: than sixty seven. Jep, this is the Red Sox and 181 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. And I'm in the sixth grade and missus 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: Marx was our teacher, and she said, all right, we're 183 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: going next door because they had two sixth grade classes. 184 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: So we went to Miss Thibert's classroom and Miss Stebert 185 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: at one thirty in the afternoon told everyone in the 186 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: class two classes. Now, put your pencils and pens down 187 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: and papers down. We're going to watch the World Series. 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: And on this grainy, little tiny little portable television up 189 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: in the right hand corner of her classroom, we watched 190 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: the Cardinals play the Red Sox in the World Series. 191 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: And that was an epiphany for me. Jeff, here was 192 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: that dad sixty seven. So this is something that we 193 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: would have done at my house my dad, of course 194 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: PhD in mathematics MIT undergrad. He made it sure we 195 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: did our work, but when it came to watching a 196 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: World Series game, he would have said, all right, put 197 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: your paper, dad, you're going to watch this. 198 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: But we did it. 199 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: A teacher did that, Jeff, and it always always stuck 200 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: with me. You would appreciate that, right. 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: No doubt, because when a World Series comes to your 202 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,479 Speaker 1: town or involves your team, it captures everybody. It's that special. 203 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: And I'm so excited if you haven't had that opportunity 204 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: in the city that you care about to have that 205 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: happen for you. Now, I have to say Emily, who 206 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: grew up a little bit of a Padres fan and 207 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: because of her family is all from San Diego, but 208 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: we moved to Philadelphia. Dad in the first year they 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: make it to the World Series, and I had to 210 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: quietly tell her, Hey, by the way, this doesn't happen 211 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: all the time. We can't think that this is, you know, 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: gonna be a regular occurrence. And I wasn't wrong. I mean, 213 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: early exits for the Phillies ever since then. But yeah, 214 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: it's so special. You telling that memory reminded me of 215 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time, Apollo thirteen. 216 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: Remember the scene where Tom Hanks's son was in boarding 217 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: school and they turned the moon landing on in or 218 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: not the moon landing. Obviously they didn't land on the moon, 219 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: but you know the coverage of them coming back into 220 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: orbit on TV. It's kind of crazy to think about that, right. 221 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great movie and a great scene. 222 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: And I know every line from that movie. We're not 223 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: going to go through it now, but I know every 224 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: line from that movie. If they put a washing machine 225 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: in space, my Jimmy could land it. Best line of 226 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: all the lines in that tremendous movie. Every time I 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: watch it, you know, I know what happens at the end, 228 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: and I still can't sit still because it's just so dramatic. 229 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: All right. Last one Jeff nineteen sixty eight. I'll never 230 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 2: forget this. Bob Gibson struck out seventeen batters in Game 231 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: one of the World Series against the Tigers, and I'm 232 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: mesmerized because Bob Gibson is the greatest pitcher. He and 233 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Sandy Kofax at that time. Kofax had just retired. So 234 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: we're at the dinner table it's our family, Andy, Matt, Tim, 235 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: Nana Pop, and baseball comes up and we're just we're 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: just we can't stop talking about what we had seen 237 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: earlier in the day that Bob Gibson struck out seventeen 238 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: batters in the World Series. And then Nanna, who of 239 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: course grew up in England. And this is the only 240 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: time I've ever saw my dad raise his voice to 241 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: my mother. My mother said, your grandmother said, you know, 242 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: you talk all the time about these pitchers in baseball, 243 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: and she wasn't a big baseball pan because she's from England. 244 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: She said, I think the bowlers in bait in cricket 245 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: can throw harder than the baseball players can, to which 246 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: my dad ayah, first time, only time I ever saw 247 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: raise's voice to my mother looked at her and said, joy, 248 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: nobody throws harder than Bob Gibson. Understand. So those are 249 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: just a few World Series highlights for me, memories for 250 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: me age nine through eleven. And that's when the game, 251 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: that's when the game grabs you. He grabbed me before then, 252 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: but that's when I knew I was officially hooked, that 253 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: this was the greatest thing ever. And here it is 254 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: you know, fifty seven years later and I still feel 255 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: the same way. 256 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Love that all right, Dad, Well, now that we've got 257 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: our World Series memories behind us, before we jump into 258 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: the takeaways, we have to recognize and thank Harold Reynolds, 259 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: our guests on the podcast this week. I we laughed 260 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: so hard. And the sign of a great interview, Dad, 261 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: is you came in with some great questions. You and 262 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: I talked it over before what stories do we want 263 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: to get out of him? And he told his best 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: stories were ones even you storied baseball writer Tim Kirkchhin, 265 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: who worked with him for years, never heard before. 266 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Harold was absolutely hilarious. Even I was a little 267 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: surprised at his recall specific things when it came to 268 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Bo Jackson, Dick Williams, cal Ripkin. I've heard a million 269 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: Harold stories, and I heard probably ten that I'd never 270 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: heard before. That's how great Harold was. So thank you 271 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: Harold for joining us. We brought you on because we 272 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: thought maybe the Maritters were going to the World Series, 273 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: but Harold covered everything during that interview. If you didn't 274 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: listen to it, do yourself a favorite. That's how funny 275 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: and insightful Harold Reynolds was. 276 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: Not to mention, Dad, I did end up posting a 277 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: blooper from that interview, not on your Twitter, but I 278 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: did post it on our social media for some laughs. 279 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: So if you don't follow us at Great Game or 280 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: what on Instagram or on Facebook or on TikTok, you 281 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: can see a blooper of all bloopers in two years 282 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: of this show. I have never laughed harder at a 283 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: blooper from something you and I have done. I mean, 284 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: think about it, Dad, just this regular season alone, we 285 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: will do ninety nine episodes of this show and more 286 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: last year if you throw those in as well. We 287 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: to say this is the best blooper of the entire show. 288 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: It's really speaking volumes. So I'm so excited. One hundred 289 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: and thirty seven total episodes, Dad, is what I just 290 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: looked up best blooper of one hundred and thirty seven 291 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: follow us at Great Game or what? Thank you for 292 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: being a good sport, Dad? Okay, takeaways? What do we got? 293 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: All? Right? Well, we've got to get to the World 294 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: Series and this comes down to two things. The Dodgers 295 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: starting pitching, which has been beyond spectacular. It has been historic. 296 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: One forty ERA, which is the lowest through ten games 297 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: since the nineteen eighty one Dodgers. The opponents are hitting 298 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: one thirty two, one thirty two off the Dodgers starters. 299 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: And this is most important, Jeff. In this era where's 300 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, relievers pitch more than starters, especially in the postseason. 301 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: Dodger starters have pitched seventy percent of the innings. So 302 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: if their rotation is as good as it was against 303 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: the Reds and I covered that two game series, is 304 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: if it's as good as it was against the Phillies 305 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: and then against the Brewers, then the Dodgers are going 306 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: to sweep the Blue Jays because nobody can hit Blake 307 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Snell when he's really right. Jeff, He's made three starts. 308 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: He's got a three to zero record with a zero 309 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: eight six ERA and twenty eight strikeouts. If he strikes 310 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: out nine or more in Game one, then he will 311 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: tie Bob Gibson, the aforementioned Bob Gibson, for the only 312 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: two pitchers ever to have four consecutive postseason starts. Gibson 313 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: did it over several years with at least nine strikeouts. 314 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: That's how dominant he has been. And then you follow 315 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: with Yamamoto Glass now Otani. Seriously, Jeff, this is a 316 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: murderer's row of starting pitching. That the stuff we're going 317 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: to see from those four is just ungodly good. I 318 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: don't know how anyone gets a hit anymore. I don't 319 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: know how they do it either, right, But the good 320 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: thing is the Blue Jays are a really good offensive team. 321 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: I just covered their last eleven games, called the game 322 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: on all those games on the radio with Carl Ravig 323 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: and Eduardo Prez. Greatest assignment ever. And you know, the 324 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Blue Jays scored six and a half runs per game. Okay, 325 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: that's a lot of runs. And they also scored seventy 326 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: so they had seventy one runs only sixty five strikeouts, Jeff. 327 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: In this day and age, to score more runs than 328 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: you have strikeouts is unheard of. The last time any 329 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: team did that was the two thousand and seven Red Sox. 330 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: And of course they just won the World Series with 331 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: out slowing down. They were amazing. The Blue Jays, who 332 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: put the ball in play obviously better than anyone. They've 333 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: hit two ninety six in this postseason, Jeff. The rest 334 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 2: of the teams combined hit too eighteen this postseason ninety 335 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: six to two eighteen. It just shows you how hard 336 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 2: it is to get a hit unless you're the Blue Jays. 337 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: And they found a way against the Yankees and against Seattle, Yeah, 338 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: to get a whole bunch of hits, especially at at 339 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: big times. Plus now they've got Bob Bashett back, and 340 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: I don't see any way that he can play shortstop 341 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: because he's he's missed, you know, the last and played 342 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: for over a month with a bad knee. But he 343 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: could be the DH if they choose to use him 344 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: that way. And it looks like he's going to be activated. 345 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: But you know, let's not forget he led their team 346 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: and RBIs this year. He's a really good major league hitter, 347 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: and now they're going to assert him into a lineup 348 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: that was pretty darn productive. Jeff, you remember in twenty 349 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: sixteen when Kyle Schwarber like missed the entire season, like 350 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: wrecked his knee on the first series of the season 351 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: chasing a fly ball in the outfield, And then he 352 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: came back and played in that twenty sixteen World Series. 353 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: It was a miracle. I never thought he could find 354 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: his way back and then be sharp. He went seven 355 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: for seventeen in that series, having missed the entire season. 356 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: I'll be close on this number. He used to. He 357 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: would he was working out, trying to get ready to 358 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: play in the World Series, and he couldn't even swing 359 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: a bat because his legs weren't working. But he would 360 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: just stand in against a pitching machine and watched like 361 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: a thousand sliders. I'm not exaggerating, just so he can 362 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: make sure he sees what a slider looks like. That's 363 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: how he prepped to play in the twenty sixteen World Series, 364 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: and miraculously he did. 365 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: And I think that story is the difference between you know, 366 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: when we look, especially when you're a kid, when you 367 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: look at like the biggest NBA stars, the biggest MLB stars, 368 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: you think to yourself, oh my gosh, yeah, how many 369 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: pitches have they seen? 370 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 2: Right? 371 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: Of course they're that good. It's like, no, It's the 372 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: reason why these shooters are so good is because Steph 373 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: Curry shoots today more shots than anybody on earth, because 374 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: he knows the only way I'm going to be able 375 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: to do this is if I continue to take shots. 376 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: Right. 377 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: So, Kyle Schwarber just looking at sliders off a pitching 378 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: machine he's seen more sliders than ninety nine point nine 379 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: nine nine nine nine percent of the population, but he's 380 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: still saying that's not enough. I think when it comes 381 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: to a lesson for our kids that are playing, it'll 382 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: never be enough practice, It'll never be enough. So get 383 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: out there and keep working, because that's a prime example 384 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: of it. 385 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, Jeff, onto the quirk Chins. That was hard 386 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: with the quirk chins this week because I didn't have 387 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: any games to talk about, and I have a quirk gin. 388 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: Yes please, and I want to jump to it because 389 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I need help. 390 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 391 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Do you know why the Blue Jays actually have history 392 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: on their side to win this World Series? 393 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: I actually do that today on this date in baseball history, 394 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: they won the World Series in nineteen ninety two. Oh 395 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: so they're going to start the World Series on the 396 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: date that they won the World Series for the first 397 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: time in nineteen ninety two. 398 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: That is not what I had, but that is a 399 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: great I'm going. 400 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: To give you one more though. Okay. If the Blue 401 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: Jays win this World Series, they will tie the Boston 402 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: Red Sox as the only team that has won appeared 403 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: in only three World Series and won all three of them. 404 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: So the Red Sox did this, and Babe Ruth was 405 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: a pitcher for the Red Sox during this run that 406 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: they had in the early nineteen hundreds. That obviously isn't 407 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: the answer either. 408 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: No, the answer is that there have been four instances, 409 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: Oh keep going, Sarah Lannings shout out four instances in 410 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: which the World Series contenders, the teams in the World 411 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: Series one swept their championship series and one went to 412 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: game seven and won their championship series. And all four 413 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: instances of that, the team that went seven games was 414 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: not to win the World Series, which which bucks all 415 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: sorts of ideas of sweet your series, line up your pitchers, 416 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: get your guys rest, get to be home more. This 417 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: it's an energy thing. 418 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: In October. 419 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: It's win or go home. It's do or die time. 420 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: And that's why these teams that go seven games probably 421 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: are more prepared because they don't have the downtime, and 422 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: maybe downtime is not good in October. We won't go 423 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: into the whole bye week thing that people have been 424 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: talking about now ever since we added that extra wildcard spot, 425 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: but that is a Sarah lang special, big shout out 426 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: to her. We absolutely love Sarah Langs. But I'm glad 427 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: I could kick off. Was that one of your cork 428 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: gins or is that just something you have? 429 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: No, No, we use that on the air the other night, 430 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: quoting quoting Sarah Langs. But yes, Jeff, bring it back. 431 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: It's really relevant. It's really interesting. Now. The Blue Jays 432 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: do have some real rest here. I mean, they didn't 433 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: just like sweep and finish on a Wednesday, and they're 434 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: opening the World Series on Friday. They had some time 435 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: to set up their pitching, so I think they're in 436 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: pretty good shape. Yeah, all right, these are barely fortunes. 437 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: But I just got to share this the first one 438 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: with you. Louis Ireland is a pitcher, of course for 439 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. They played eleven postseason games. He's pitched 440 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: to ten of them, ten out of eleven. So I 441 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: was talking to him the other day because he was 442 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: a wrestler in high school. And I've done all the 443 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: research on this, Jeff. I tell you all the time 444 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: about great basketball player in high school, great football player 445 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: in high school. You don't find too many guys who 446 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: wrestled in high school and went on to play in 447 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: the major leagues. Mike Hampton did that. Jef Brantley did that, 448 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: and Louis Ireland did that. So I asked him, I 449 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: said what weight? At what weight did you wrestle? And 450 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: he looks at me and he goes, well, what year 451 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: like that? So I said I freshman year? He said, 452 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: I weighed one hundred and six. He weighed one hundred 453 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: and six and wrestled as a freshman. As a senior, 454 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: he wrestled at one sixty. But then he told me 455 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: he played baseball at one eighty five, So he he 456 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: lost twenty five pounds in the same as a high 457 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: school kid in order to wrestle at one sixty. Jeff, 458 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: he told me he lost twenty pounds he could, he 459 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: could lose, meaning he did it more than once twenty 460 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: pounds in a week. How do you do that? How 461 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: do you lose three and a half pounds a day? 462 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: That's what he did, and he said, I did it 463 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: the unhealthy way, and we're going to leave it at that. 464 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: So he got down to one sixty for wrestling and 465 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: then put twenty five pounds back on so he could 466 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: pitch his senior year in high school. Am I overdoing 467 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: this or do you find that interesting? 468 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: And Ozembic wasn't even a thing back, So I don't know, 469 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how he did it. 470 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: Oh god, that was so good. So Ernie Clement of 471 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, you know, he's a real free swinger 472 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: and had a great Great League championship series, a great postseason, 473 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: got you know, seventeen hits. Whatever it is. So I 474 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: asked him where I think we can all appreciate this. 475 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: Jeff I said, well, Buster and I were with him. 476 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: We said where did you get this, you know, aggressive 477 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: swing mentality? And he said, you know, Coach Pitch. Back 478 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: when we played at Coach Pitch, you know, age six, 479 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: he said, the rule was you get three pitches. That's it. 480 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: You know, ball strikes doesn't matter. Three pitches and you're 481 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: out of there. And he said, so my dad used 482 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: to tell me, hey, you get three pitches, you better 483 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: be swinging. And that's that's where he developed the swing 484 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: first attitude. Does that make sense to you? 485 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: I love that, and I mean you even I was 486 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: taking pitches in T ball and you kept telling me that, yeah, 487 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: it's right there, you don't need to take that pitch. 488 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like it's on a t Yeah. Yeah, Yes, 489 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: I got a big kick out of Addison Barger, who 490 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: plays third base but mostly right field now for the 491 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. He swings about as hard as anyone in 492 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: the game today, never gets cheated. Nickname is Bam Bam, 493 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: and not because of how far he hits it and 494 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: how much he loves to take. Battie practiced this. His 495 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: mother's dog's name is Bam Bam, so that's his nickname. 496 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: But John Schneider, the manager of the Blue Jays, just 497 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: dropped on us the other day that Barger threw ninety 498 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: eight ninety nine miles an hour in high school as 499 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: a pitcher. So he's got a tremendous throwing arm, which 500 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: we saw, including in some key spots in the league 501 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: championship series against Seattle. So I just playfully went up 502 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: to him and said, do you think you could throw 503 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: ninety eight ninety nine today if they put you in 504 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: the clothes in the ninth inning? And he looked at 505 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: me and he smiled, and he goes, I throw a hundred, 506 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: and I believe it. I believe it. Speaking of throwing 507 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: one hundred, Jeff Harold mentioned it the other day about Otani. 508 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: It's not just he hit three home runs in a game, 509 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: pitched six scoreless with ten strikeouts. He threw a pitch 510 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour, and he had a home 511 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: run off a pitch that was thrown one hundred miles 512 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: an hour. I mean, that's the separator. That's what makes 513 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: him so amazing. As much as I defend Babe Ruth, 514 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: I think he would have hit fifty homers and won 515 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: twenty games if there was a DH in baseball in 516 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty, But he wasn't throwing one hundred, and he 517 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: wasn't hitting anybody throwing one hundred. That separates Otani and 518 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: what he's gonna likely do in this postseason. Has become 519 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: the first player ever to pitch in a World Series 520 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: game and play another position in a World Series game 521 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: in the same World Series. Okay, like Babe Ruth pitched 522 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: in the World Series and then became a position player, 523 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: but he didn't do it in the same year. Smokey 524 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: Joe Wood did the same thing early nineteen hundreds. He 525 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: pitched in the World Series, then he played the outfield 526 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: in the World Series. But Otani's gonna do it in 527 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: the same World Series, and nobody has ever done that. 528 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, Are you ready for my final quirk? 529 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: Gin? I have yes. 530 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: For the last five years, a will Smith has won 531 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: the World Series. Catcher will Smith won it with the 532 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Dodgers in twenty twenty twenty twenty one, the Pitcher Will 533 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: Smith won it with the Braves. Then he became a 534 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: member of the Astros and he won it in twenty 535 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: twenty two. Then he became a member of the Rangers 536 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: and he won it in twenty twenty three, and then 537 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Ketcher will Smith won again with the Dodgers in twenty 538 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: twenty four, and Ketcher will Smith is back in the 539 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: World Series for twenty twenty five. If the Dodgers win, 540 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: it will be the sixth straight year that a will 541 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: Smith wins the World Series. 542 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: Jeff, your court gym was better than any of mine. 543 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: That was great, Thank you. 544 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: Did you do that yourself or did you steal it 545 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: from someone? 546 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Now? Well, I was always tracking the will Smith because 547 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: for a while there was whatever team gets Pitcher will 548 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: Smith will win the World Series. Because he was on 549 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: three different teams and won three years in a row, Braves, Astros, Rangers. 550 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: He went to the Royals in twenty twenty four. Everyone 551 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: was saying, oh, my gosh, Now the Royals are gonna 552 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: win because they got Will Smith. 553 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: Right, that's very good of you. Way to go. And 554 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: of course last week's Team Tim was you know, players 555 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: with the same name who played major leagues together. They 556 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: just didn't play the same position. So we got a 557 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: lot of feedback on that one. We left out some people, 558 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: the Bob Millers, the Dave Johnson's, who were the same name, 559 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: played the same position. I didn't pretend to get them, 560 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: all right, I just put a Team Tim together, which 561 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna have another one today. 562 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: Okay, coming up next here on is this a great 563 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: game or what on this date in baseball history? We 564 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: wrap up from Ozzie to Oral, three cards in the 565 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: bathroom and a brand new Team Tim. Next, and we're 566 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: back on is this a great game or what on 567 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: this date in baseball history? 568 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: Dad? 569 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: I know you already gave me one of yours. Nineteen 570 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: ninety two, on this date, the Blue Jays won their 571 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: first World Series. This is their third World Series appearance, 572 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: and they could go three for three, as you mentioned before, 573 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: So just one to remind people of that on this date. 574 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: But what else do you have? 575 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 2: All right? On this date in nineteen fifty two, Omar 576 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: Moreno was born. He was a really good defensive center 577 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: fielder for the world champion Pirates in nineteen seventy nine, 578 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: and he was such a good defensive outfielder that his 579 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: nickname was Omar the Outmaker. So instead of Omar the Rugmaker, 580 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: he was Omar the Outmaker. But the kicker to that is, 581 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, he played every game and he rarely walked, 582 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: and he made a lot of outs. So he made 583 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: more outs in that season than any player in the 584 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: history of baseball, more outs in one season than anyone 585 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: in the history of baseball, hit lead off, played every game, 586 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: rarely walked, and swung at everything. So he was Omar 587 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: the Outmaker really for two different reasons. And then the 588 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: next season, teammate Frank Taveres, who also swung at everything 589 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 2: and hit way up in the order, made the second 590 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: most outs in baseball history, and they did it in 591 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: back to back seas. I don't know if anyone has 592 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: passed them since, but that had never been done that 593 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: many outs in a season. And sadly, on this date 594 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two, Jackie Robinson died at age fifty three. 595 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: Jeff fifty three. Now, we're not going to be labor 596 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: this cause we talk a lot of jacket. Let's just 597 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: make sure we all understand he's the most important player 598 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: in the history of baseball. There is not a close second, 599 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: And with the Dodgers being in the World Series, we 600 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: can't mention enough just how great a player Jackie Robinson 601 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: was and how courageous a person he was. He died 602 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: on this date in nineteen seventy two. 603 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, we've done it. From Ozzie to Oral. 604 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: We have given you the best player to wear each number, 605 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: according to Tim kirkschon one through fifty five, Ozzy Smith. 606 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: We started it off. It feels like a hundred years 607 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: ago because our crazy producer said, you guys should do 608 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: three episodes a week instead of one episode a week. 609 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: We will finish this regular season with ninety nine episodes. 610 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: Dad. 611 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: We did like thirty five last season, by the way, 612 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: which is great. I've loved doing more episodes with you. 613 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: I just you know, all you and I talk is 614 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: baseball now. I don't even know what's going on in 615 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: your personal life. But we've made it. 616 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: Dad. 617 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: This year one to fifty five, we're on number fifty 618 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: five and no surprise, it's Oral herscheizer. May I say 619 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: it from Ozzie to Oral? 620 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: And how appropriate that we're you know, we're doing the 621 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: Dodgers and the Blue Jays in the World Series and 622 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: Orl's one of the greatest Dodger pitchers ever won two 623 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: hundred and four games nineteen eighty eight, had one of 624 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: the greatest seasons any pitcher has ever had in any era, 625 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: broke the record for most consecutive scoreless innings with fifty eight. 626 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: He went twenty three and eight that year with a 627 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: two to twenty sixy RA, and he threw eight shutouts 628 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: Jet eight shutouts. It wasn't that long ago that people 629 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: were allowed to pitch a complete game, eight shutouts in 630 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: one season. And in the postseason, of course, he won 631 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: the World Series MVP. He was equally brilliant against the 632 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: Mets in the LCS. And I covered every one of 633 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: his starts in the postseason that year, three and zero, 634 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: forty two and two thirds innings, twenty five hits, five 635 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: earned runs, thirty two strikeouts. That's how dominant he was. 636 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: And I think I told you this story, Jeff. But 637 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: after the season, Dodgers win the World Series. He gets 638 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: invited and he's like Sportsman of the Year with Sports Illustrated. 639 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: He gets invited to the White House. So he and 640 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: his wife go to the White House and some like 641 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: all set up for him, some limousine and he gets 642 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: out at the White House and like a marine, like 643 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: a real marine opens up the door and outsteps Oral 644 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: Hersheizer and her Scheizer, being a very funny sort of 645 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: mischievous kind of guy, sees this guy dressed in his 646 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: marine blues or whatever it is, and orl says, I 647 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 2: like to tip you can you can you break a five? 648 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: You know? And the marine looks at him. The marine 649 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 2: looks at him and goes, that'll be enough, mister cy 650 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: Young And just so he was in on it at Oral, 651 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: being the very funny guy that he is. I love 652 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: that Oral did some Oral told me later that like 653 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: during that postseason when the Dodgers are on their way 654 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: to winning the World Series, he said, I never told 655 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 2: anybody where I was going to eat, just in case 656 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: the chef would read in the paper that I'm going 657 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: to eat somewhere and he might might try to poison me. 658 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: And I said what, and he goes, yeah, look you 659 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: can't take any chances when you're pitching games of this magnitude. 660 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: Is that? Do you find that funny? Jeff? 661 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean there are some fan groups out there I'm 662 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: looking kind of similar to New York and Boston and 663 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia who might be like, well, maybe we just give 664 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: him a chicken that's not quite one sixty five internal 665 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right. 666 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: So he also told me a great thing, Jeff. Unfortunate 667 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 2: for people who are just listening. I'm wearing my eight 668 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: two thousand gloves. 669 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: And what people don't know is you actually wear that 670 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: the entire show. Every show. You just have it on 671 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: underneath your desk, right that. 672 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: I love having this glove on. I'm not apologizing for 673 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: anyone for this. I used to I used to play 674 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: and it was a boy all right. So my left 675 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: index finger I'm right handed, is out of the glove, 676 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: as you can see. So Oral told me the story. 677 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: I don't have it, but there are gloves out there, 678 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: Jeff that have a little piece of leather on the 679 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 2: outside of the glove. And the reason they did that, 680 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: Oral said is because he said, of me, I invented that. 681 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: He said, I said, what are you talking about? He 682 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: goes well. In the mid eighties, I was pitching, and 683 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: when I threw my curveball, my index finger would go 684 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 2: like this. It would like wiggle, and the hitters could 685 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: see that when my index finger outside of my glove 686 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: would wiggle. I was throwing a breaking ball, and I 687 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: recognized that they saw that I was wiggling my finger 688 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: and a curveball was coming. So I had whatever the 689 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: glove company was build a piece of leather over top 690 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: so I could keep my finger out of my glove. 691 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 2: But it was still the hitter couldn't see it because 692 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: it was covered with another piece of leather. Jeff, I 693 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: can't even stress to you how inside baseball that is 694 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: and how much I love something like that. You have 695 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: to love that, right that. I just did a quick 696 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: Google search. 697 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: The piece of leather that hides a finger outside the 698 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: baseball glove is called a finger hood or a finger sleeve. 699 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: It was originally invented by pitcher Oral Hersheiser to prevent 700 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: his finger from wiggling, which was a tell for his curveball. 701 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: There you go. 702 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: You and AI are just lined up with each other. 703 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 2: Right. Look. I told that story twenty five years ago, 704 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 2: but it needs to be repeated because we're at Ozzie 705 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: to Oral and the Dodgers are in the World Series. 706 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: So that's that's my Oral Hersheiser greatest number fifty five 707 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 2: of all time. 708 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: So if you learned anything this year on the podcast, 709 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: Oral Herschheiser invented the finger hood. Last year on the podcast, 710 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: Bobby Valentine invented the rap. So now we just know 711 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: we've got a whole bunch of inventors here that we're 712 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: learning about who also happened to play or manage baseball games. 713 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: So all right, dad, that is a little bit. Let's 714 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: can we take a moment of silence from Ozzie to 715 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: Orl everybody. 716 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: We've done it, yes, and we need suggestions from our 717 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: listeners and our viewers. We can't do this again next year, 718 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: and we can't do Ozzy to Orl. We need to 719 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: come up with something else. But we need to do 720 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 2: this because I love doing things like this. We did 721 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 2: the best player of each franchise, best of all tim 722 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: we did Ozzy to Oral. We need to come up 723 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: with a couple of staples that we can use every week. 724 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: If anyone's got a good idea greatest player ever for 725 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: each letter, of the alphabet something like that. That's what 726 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: we're looking for. 727 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: Okay, so let us know. You can go to great 728 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: Game or what dot com and find where it says 729 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: reach out to us, send us a message there, Dad, 730 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: you've been doing a great job responding to the members 731 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: of the family that are messaging us. So and to 732 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: keep in mind, I mean it goes without saying. We 733 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: will be continuing this podcast throughout the off season, not 734 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: in the same amount of quirk gens and takeaways with 735 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: no games being played, but we we've got some fun 736 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: plans for the offseason. So make sure to hit that 737 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: subscribe button follow all that good stuff so you don't 738 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: lose it. Three cards in the bathroom, Dad. 739 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: What do you got? All right? Well, I went down 740 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: to the bathroom today, and I will be honest here 741 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: as I always am. I picked six cards instead of three, etc. 742 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to take the best three out of the 743 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: cities because there were three guys on there. I didn't 744 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: have a good story or anything on but I do 745 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 2: have a story about Mike Iago here, who was a 746 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 2: really good defensive second baseman for the Oakland A's played 747 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: on their championship team in well more than one but 748 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: championship team in nineteen eighty nine, and he played in 749 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: the Earthquake World Series. So the story he told me 750 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: is that, So the game were about five minutes, ten 751 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: minutes from starting the game, and the earthquake hits. I 752 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: was there, Jeff. It was terrifying. So all the lights 753 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: go out inside the A's clubhouse, not to mention all 754 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: through Candlestick Park, okay, and all the players are told 755 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 2: get out of the clubhouse. Who knows it might collapse. 756 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 2: So they all ran out to the field, and that's 757 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 2: when Mike Diego realized he'd left his glove in the clubhouse. 758 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 2: So he goes through security and the security guy said, 759 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 2: you can't go in there. It might be dangerous in there, 760 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: and it was pitch black, and Mike Diego said, I 761 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: don't care. I'm going in there. He found his way 762 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 2: to his locker, grabbed his glove and brought it out 763 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: to the field and looked at me and he said, 764 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: holding up his glove, he said, this is my baby. 765 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 2: This is the reason I'm in the Major League. I 766 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere without this. So he went in during 767 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: the danger of an earthquake to rescue his glove. Mike Diego, 768 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 2: I love that. 769 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: What's your next card? 770 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: All right? This is oh I love this guy. Julio Franco, 771 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: former batting champ, one of the best hitters I've ever seen, 772 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 2: played into his late forties. He was an amazing hitter. 773 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: So there are a million Julio Franco stories. But I 774 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 2: was at a I saw this more than once. But 775 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: I was doing a story on him, and it was 776 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: in Texas, and he's in the cage. Julio had unbelievably 777 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: strong hands, wrists and forearms held that bat way up here, 778 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: and he was taking batting practice with a batting donut 779 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,479 Speaker 2: on the bat. So now he's got about this much 780 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: barrel left because he's got a batting donut on the bat, 781 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 2: and he's hitting line drives all over the field, taking 782 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 2: batting practice with a batting donut on the bat. And 783 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: you know, Bobby Valentine, he has an answer for everything 784 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: that is a compliment. He's seen everything. Nothing surprises him. 785 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 2: And Bobby's at the batting cage and I said, Bobby, 786 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: how is it possible that this guy can hit line 787 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: drives all over the field with a batting doughnut on 788 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 2: his bat and Bobby says, I have no idea how 789 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 2: he can do that. That's how good Julio Franco is. 790 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: That's how good he was. 791 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: Twenty three years in the big leagues. He batted over 792 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: three hundred and nine of them, including three forty one 793 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one. We just don't see that a 794 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: lot anymore. 795 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: Right, And I covered him in the Carolina League when 796 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: he was one hundred and sixty pounds shortstop, and he 797 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: hit rifle shots at one hundred and sixty pounds. Then 798 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: he gained about seventy pounds and was hit. He's so 799 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 2: strong it was unbelievable. Last one is Norm Charlton, one 800 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: of my favorite players that I ever covered. He played 801 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 2: on the world champion Cincinnati Reds in nineteen ninety He 802 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: was one of the nasty boys. Randy Meyers, Rob Dibble, 803 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 2: Norm Charlton. They were three great believers. The biggest reason 804 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 2: that the Reds won the World Series that years. They 805 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 2: had these three great believers. But I'll never forget that. 806 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: I went to game one night and Steve Finley hit 807 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: a line drive that hit Norm Charlton right in the 808 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: forehead on the mound. I thought he was dead. Instead, 809 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: he gets up and wants to continue pitching because he's 810 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 2: the toughest guy in the world, and it's the compliment 811 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: he's a lunatic. So they took him out of the game, 812 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 2: and the next day he comes to the ballpark and 813 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: says he wants to keep playing. He's got a lump 814 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 2: in the middle of his forehead. Jeff. He looked like 815 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 2: a unicorn, and he had two gigantic black eyes. I mean, 816 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: just to matter, any bruise you ever get, ankle, whatever 817 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 2: swells up, he has two gigantic black eyes. He looks 818 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 2: like an owl with a unicorn thing sticking out of 819 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 2: his forehead. And they said, they said, norm you can't 820 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 2: pitch all right. You're going on the disabled list until 821 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 2: we can get your face straightened out and get this Jeff. 822 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: He told me the day after getting hit in the 823 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: head with a line drive, he went to buy he 824 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 2: didn't have a television, so he went to buy a 825 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: new television at like one of these, you know, electronics stores, 826 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 2: and he said, my face was so grotesque. The lady 827 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 2: behind the counter could not wait on me. She had 828 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: to leave the room and had somebody else come over 829 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: and wait on me. That's how bad he looked. Just 830 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: another reminder how dangerous the game is and how courageous 831 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: the norm Charlton's of the world are for playing this game, 832 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: all right, Dad? 833 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: Wrapping up today's episode with a Team Tim or is 834 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: it not a team Tim? 835 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: It's not a Team Tim. I tried my hardest to 836 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: come up with a team Tim, and I was unsatisfied. 837 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 2: The best I could do was the all unsung hero 838 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 2: team in the World series, and I'm going to bring 839 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 2: it back at some point, so I'm not even to 840 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: tell you I had, but I wasn't real happy with 841 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: my team. So John Woodward, who's one of our really 842 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 2: loyal listeners and followers, who's incredibly clever. I'm not speaking 843 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 2: to John Woodward anymore, Jeff, because he's better at this 844 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: stuff than I am, and I'm a little bit insulted. 845 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 2: So he came up with the idea of you should 846 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 2: do because he did it for me. So this is 847 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 2: the John Woodward Team Tim. Players at each position who 848 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 2: played for both the Blue Jays and the Dogs loved 849 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 2: this great idea. Pretty clever, right, So I'm just going 850 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: to give you his list and that's it. So I 851 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with this because his list was 852 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: better than my list. The catcher is Russell Martin. First 853 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: baseman is Ron Fairley. He had the most career homers 854 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: two fifteen without ever hitting twenty in the season. Oh yes, 855 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 2: you remember. 856 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: You always walk it down most Sohmer's never to hit fifty, forty. 857 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: Thirty, twenty thirty. 858 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: Ron Fairly is always the one I forget because, right, 859 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: it's so insignificant, but it's great, right. 860 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 2: He's the first baseman. Jeff Kent is the second baseman. 861 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: Shay Hillenbrand is the third baseman. Bob Baylor love that 862 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 2: b ail r is the shortstop. Outfielders Ricky Henderson, Devon 863 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: White and ti Oscar Hernandez, who of course plays for 864 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and his pitcher is Max Scherzer, who of 865 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: course plays for the Blue Gens. And I believe John 866 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: when he said it he did this team off the 867 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,280 Speaker 2: top of his head any but he couldn't find a catcher, 868 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: so he had to go search for using the Internet 869 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: or using something a catcher, and that's how he came 870 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: up with Russell Martin. Doing that off the top of 871 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: your head, Jeff, pretty darn hard to do. 872 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: Greed, Yeah, big, big, shout out love when members of 873 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: the family get involved in Team Tim's or whatever. 874 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: It might be. Right, So John Woodward is going to 875 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: co host the show next week with you because his 876 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: team Tim was better than mine. 877 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: Dad, don't beat yourself up. 878 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm not. 879 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: I am proud of good at Jeff. This, feeding the dogs. 880 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: Baseball, basketball and feeding the dog. That's all of good. 881 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, It's so funny when people started doing Tim 882 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: Kirkshon impressions, they would ask me to do Tim Kirkshon impressions, 883 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: and then I just quickly realized they don't really have 884 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: to do an impression. I can just say whatever I 885 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: want and it ends up sounding like you are Gilbert 886 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 1: Godfrey depending on how excited I guess, or Charlie Day 887 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 1: like all of those are combined. All right, Dad, Well 888 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: tonight we are blessed with baseball again, the Dodgers and 889 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays in Toronto. You're gonna be there. We're 890 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: gonna catch up with everybody come Tuesday, and so we'll 891 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of World Series action underneath our belt. 892 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: And safe travels to you, Dad, Good luck the game tonight, 893 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: and have so much fun. 894 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff Ben, thanks for everyone, for listening and 895 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: For watching, for being a part of our family,