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Speaker 1: It starts now, by the way, you watched the new

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Speaker 1: episode I did of Yellowstone, so now we can talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Carrie and I watched it. The first five

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Speaker 1: minutes just felt absolutely bizarre. There's no spoilers here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet, too well, I mean

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Speaker 1: there are spoilers, but I'm saying, like, too bad.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Costner really thought he had something better to do

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Speaker 1: than this show? Is that what it came down to?

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Speaker 1: That seems that seems so strange to me. I can't believe.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how many of you out there

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Speaker 2: watch Yellowstone, but it's the most popular television show in America.

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Speaker 2: I think I told you that you should watch it

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Speaker 2: years ago on this show Buck And so they've had

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Speaker 2: a multi year hiatus while they've been fighting over whether

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Speaker 2: ultimately he just refused to come back, so they had

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Speaker 2: to write him off. And I just look, he put

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Speaker 2: in the time and effort on that show, why not

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Speaker 2: close it out in a way where the people who've

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Speaker 2: work that he put in, Right Like, I what better

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Speaker 2: not a dollar figure they could have reached an agreement on.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Like at some point it would

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Speaker 2: be like if you watch the Avengers movies, if Robert

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Speaker 2: iron Man anymore. Well, there's got to be a dollar

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Speaker 2: figure where you can come to an agreement because people

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Speaker 2: who've invested in that show and it's been very successful

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Speaker 2: want to find a way to finish it successfully. And

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Speaker 2: I think it just it undercuts everything massively the way

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Speaker 2: that that final episode's playing out right now. I watched

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Speaker 2: it last night. I was excited to watch it. I've

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Speaker 2: I think Taylor Sheridan's done a great job with that one.

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Speaker 2: There's a new one with Billy Bob Thornton about Texas

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Speaker 2: Oil that looks frankly incredible. It's got Billy Bob Thornton,

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Speaker 2: John Hamm and another famous, super incredible actress in it.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was. But I need a

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Speaker 2: new show to watch. With the election now being done,

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Speaker 2: and with football season moving towards the close for the spring,

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Speaker 1: I could definitely use a new show these days. I'm

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Speaker 1: hopeful that something really good comes up. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the Yellowstone, it might have jumped the shark a little

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Speaker 1: I think Kevin Coster bailed out to make some movies

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Speaker 2: I think that's correct. And look, I mean, Kevin Costner

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Speaker 1: I just realized I've started with Penguin now carry and

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Speaker 1: the Penguin is a character. Does that make sense? There

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Speaker 2: I've heard. I think I read about that. I haven't

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Speaker 2: I posted a poll and I'm curious. This is a

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Speaker 1: I have only seen those movies. I think there were

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Speaker 1: I was never a Freddy Krueger guy personally. I didn't

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Speaker 2: voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers

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Speaker 1: What is the scariest movie you've ever seen?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: It is a great question. I would team you get

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Speaker 1: also weigh in in New York while Clay's figuring it out,

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Speaker 1: the best one is? What do you got for me? Clay?

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Speaker 2: I would probably go with the Oh Man, I watched

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Speaker 2: all of it, and I'm gonna forget what they're called now,

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Speaker 2: what Clay's talking about with this series? What is the

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Speaker 2: series he's talking about? The Conjuring, The Conjuring. The Conjuring

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Speaker 1: Our our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long Form

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Speaker 1: yes all that and talked about his everyday Carrie, which

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Speaker 1: I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie

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Speaker 1: I actually I actually won't sit through a horror movie now.

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Speaker 2: What my wife won't do horror movies. I love, like

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Speaker 2: the Scream movies. Those are really fun. I've watched them

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Speaker 1: The airplane I did used to watch in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I think they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre.

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Speaker 1: Where are you on Vampires and Dracula stuff? I still

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Speaker 1: up pulled that timelessness and entertainment value bram Stokers. Dracula

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Speaker 2: incredibly well done. That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it

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Speaker 2: But I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Leech

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Speaker 2: rest in Piece used to say, not the MOPI vampires,

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Speaker 2: Underrated Sundays with Clay and Buss.

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Speaker 1: Clay. I didn't realize that my prize picks Picks would

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Speaker 3: You know, guys, we've been talking about the culture for

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about this more in the next hour.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: I think he's one hundred percent right for the culture

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Speaker 2: I don't know who it is having this conversation over

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Speaker 1: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: The vibe shift is real. The winning is stacking up.

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Speaker 2: and Buck. I just want to run through some things

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Speaker 2: You can't be saying positive things about Donald Trump and

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Speaker 2: expect to ever work in sports media. Again, That's what

434
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Speaker 2: I was told when I endorsed Trump, and I said, look,

435
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Speaker 2: I mean I think Trump's actually done a good job.

436
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Speaker 2: I was told I couldn't even say that. And now

437
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Speaker 2: all over America it's suddenly become cool to be a

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Speaker 2: Trump supporter. I was reading in the New York Times

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, Buck, they had a story about people

440
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Speaker 2: in suburban neighborhoods who put Trump signs out after he

441
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Speaker 2: won the election. They didn't do it before the election,

442
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Speaker 2: but as soon as he won. As soon as he won,

443
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Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, you know what left wing neighbors wear it.

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Speaker 2: I voted Trump. Here's my sign that's up. I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: Buck video now of dudes rolling into and this for

446
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Speaker 2: those of you who are not from New York City, Buck,

447
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Speaker 2: this probably is stunning to you. Twenty three, twenty four

448
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Speaker 2: year old dudes rolling into popular bars in New York

449
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Speaker 2: City in maga hats, girls coming and talking to them.

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Speaker 2: They're not isolated, They're the cool guy in the bar.

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Speaker 2: My wife talked about this over the weekend. I was

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Speaker 2: talking about this with her, as young men now are

453
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Speaker 2: endorsing Trump. She's like, you know what's gonna happen. All

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Speaker 2: these young girls that want to be liked by these

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Speaker 2: young boys. They're going to start to break on the

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Speaker 2: anti Trump train, and you're gonna see more and more

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Speaker 2: young people. But I just wanted to ask you this

458
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Speaker 2: because you lived through it. Did you ever think you'd

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Speaker 2: see trendy let's say Greenwich village bars where dudes would

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Speaker 2: be rolling in in maga caps when you were living

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Speaker 2: in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Nobody, even the most ardent Trump supporter in Manhattan circa

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, nobody was going in with a maga

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Speaker 1: hat on. It doesn't matter how much you loved Trump,

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Speaker 1: because you were gonna get jeered, booed, and probably have

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Speaker 1: drinks thrown at you. That's how aggressive it would be.

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Speaker 1: So the change is real. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: This is a very very clear disruption of the old

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Speaker 1: of the old narrative and the cultural resonance of the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party. I think on a number of fronts, Clay,

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Speaker 1: they they really came up short. Kamala Harris was a

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Speaker 1: terrible candidate, but there's also the party apparatus that put

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Speaker 1: her in place and really made Biden pick her for

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Speaker 1: DEI reasons pretty clear, and then decided Biden needed to

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Speaker 1: step aside. You know, there's a little bit of I

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Speaker 1: think the shattering of the Democrat elites image here as well.

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Speaker 1: George Clooney with his op ed it needs to be Kamala, really,

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Speaker 1: you jackass, it needs to be Kamala. You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like you see these people, Clay's choking, you

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Speaker 1: see spit.

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Speaker 2: I was taking a sip of crock at coffee when

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Speaker 2: you said that, I must.

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Speaker 1: But it's true though, I mean, that's what these guys people.

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Speaker 1: Look at them now, You're like, you're such a shmo.

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Speaker 1: You you know, you were all in on Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: and she got destroyed by Trump. You wrote these op eds,

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Speaker 1: you whined and kicked and screamed about how it couldn't

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Speaker 1: be Biden. You destroyed Kamala's political future. So whatever you

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Speaker 1: think she's never running again. It's oh, yes, right, she's done,

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Speaker 1: so you you gave her a ninety day campaign. Effectively,

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Speaker 1: she got crushed. And the New York Times, I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of these places, it's not just play that

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Speaker 1: they're shocked at their side lost. It's that they kicked

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Speaker 1: and screamed to get their way and looked like imbeciles.

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Speaker 1: And that's it's beyond they lost. There's a lot of mockery. Now,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know what I mean, there's

497
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Speaker 1: a lot of who's really calling the shots here? And

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Speaker 1: what a bunch of clowns they are on the Democrat side.

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Speaker 1: That's hard to shake.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things that I want to play that

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Speaker 2: further illustrate this seismic vibe shift that we are seeing.

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Speaker 2: We made fun of Joe Scarborough and Mika Berzinski an

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Speaker 2: Hour one for going and bending the knee to Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump at Mara a Lago on Friday. If you missed it,

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Speaker 2: they started off their program talking about that. But I

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Speaker 2: had Greg on our team pull two more clips that

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Speaker 2: I thought were emblematic of just how much of a

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Speaker 2: flip flop. This was in October of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Buck Joe Scarborough said, if Trump wins, he's going to

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Speaker 2: take news networks off the air and will be Hitler.

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Speaker 2: This is just what he said last month. Listen to

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Speaker 2: Cut twenty eight. The point applies.

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Speaker 5: Even if this is not Germany nineteen thirty three. The

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Speaker 5: point applies if this is something not as savage as

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Speaker 5: Germany nineteen thirty three, but simply an autocrat who decides

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Speaker 5: to be a dictator on day one, who decides to

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Speaker 5: arrest all those who he doesn't like, to take news

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Speaker 5: networks off of the TV, as he said he would

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Speaker 5: do if they're not supportive of him, who's talked about

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Speaker 5: assassinating generals that aren't sufficiently loyal to him, has complained

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Speaker 5: to his chief of staff that his general should be

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Speaker 5: more like Hitler's generals. Of course, Hitler's generals tried to

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Speaker 5: kill at a Hitler. But Donald Trump didn't know history,

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Speaker 5: so he didn't know that whose own law you're said

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Speaker 5: in court he could use Seal Team six to assassinate,

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Speaker 5: to assassinate political rivals, and if you were president of

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Speaker 5: the United States, he could not be arrested.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: That's last month. Listen to what Joe Scarborough said this again.

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Speaker 2: Last month. That's what he was telling his audience. Listen

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Speaker 2: to what he said. This is a new clip we

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Speaker 2: got this morning about Trump.

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Speaker 5: Think about this. Of the one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 5: votes cast, Donald Trump got fifty percent, Kamala Harris got

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Speaker 5: about forty nine percent. So I don't know. Seems to

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Speaker 5: make sense for leaders of both parties to seek common ground,

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Speaker 5: if it's possible at all. And I will tell you

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Speaker 5: a lot of Democratic leaders we've talked to this past

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Speaker 5: week since the election. I've told me and me it's

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Speaker 5: time for a new approach. And when I say top Democrats,

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Speaker 5: I mean top Democrats. They said we're open.

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Speaker 2: And this is before we.

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Speaker 5: Talked to Donald Trump. They said, listen, we're open to

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Speaker 5: working with the incoming president if the incoming president is

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Speaker 5: open to working with us.

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Speaker 1: Buck, I mean, what this is amazing? Can I throw

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Speaker 1: out something? Do you think he would come on this

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Speaker 1: show and explain to great his mindset shift if he's serious,

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Speaker 1: If Joe Scarborough is serious about maybe Trump isn't Hitler

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Speaker 1: and we need to see common ground. He should be

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Speaker 1: willing to reach out to the other side himself as

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Speaker 1: a thought leader of the left or whatever. I think

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Speaker 1: he considered something independent and come on and can try

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Speaker 1: to I mean, I would have questions for him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it would just would he become overtly

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Speaker 1: hostile by being asked the obvious questions like why'd you

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Speaker 1: say somebody's Hitler?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Why would you seek compromise with Hitler? I would seek

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Speaker 1: no compromise with Hitler. I certainly wouldn't go to Hitler's layer.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to like the eagle's nest or whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, the fallback location'd be like, hey, can I

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Speaker 1: rub your feet and tell you how.

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Speaker 2: Great you are?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: No, no, I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: So hey, what's up, h Man? Give me a fist?

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Speaker 2: Pound always thought you were under respected under Radia. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's well, we should invite him. He will probably not

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Speaker 2: come on, but Ali, you can try to reach out

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Speaker 2: to his apparatus corporate wise and invite him on the show.

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Speaker 2: We don't run from people, even if they have moronic opinions,

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Speaker 2: if they want to discuss them on this show. But

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Speaker 2: I also want to play you this buck. I had

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Speaker 2: the team grab it, you know, who suddenly has decided

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Speaker 2: that immigration is out of control? How about Justin Trudeau,

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Speaker 2: who has announced that he is going to now limit

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Speaker 2: immigration in Canada. We got a lot of listeners north

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Speaker 2: of the border a and they are overwhelmingly disgusted with

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Speaker 2: the decisions that Justin Trudeau has made. You talk about

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Speaker 2: a major vibe shift. It's not even just in the

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Speaker 2: United States. America's top hat. Yeah, maybe we blew it

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Speaker 2: on immigration. Justin Trudeau is saying, listen, immigration, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 4: In the last two years, our population has grown really fast,

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Speaker 4: like baby boom fast, and increasingly bad actors like fake

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Speaker 4: colleges and big chain corporations have been exploiting our immigration

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Speaker 4: system for their own interests. So we're doing something major.

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Speaker 4: We're reducing the numbers of immigrants that will come to

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Speaker 4: Canada for the next three years. Today, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 4: you in on what happened, where we made some mistakes

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Speaker 4: and why we're taking this big turn.

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Speaker 2: Buck Canada now is saying, hey, this whole immigration thing, Hey,

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Speaker 2: maybe we got a little bit ahead of ourselves. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to basically allow immigration for the next three years.

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Speaker 2: So you got Joe and Mika, you got basically the

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Speaker 2: entire NFL, and now you've got justin Trudeau. Trump's ability

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Speaker 2: and you're right on this to get things done has

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Speaker 2: never been more readily apparent in his entire political career.

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Speaker 2: I mean this honestly, than what he's going to be

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Speaker 2: able to do in the next year. We've got to

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Speaker 2: efficiently get things done. But he's never had a larger mandate,

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Speaker 2: more public support, greater cultural power than he does right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a remarkable thing to see. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: be focusing on the consolidation of the cabinet and those positions.

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Speaker 1: Also the battle over Senate confirmation that may not just

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Speaker 1: be with Democrats. Some Republicans make it a little weak

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Speaker 1: in the knees over the possibility of some recess appointments.

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Speaker 1: Here and here what I see, Clay, and I believe

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Speaker 1: Trump has already spoken to this. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: a warp speed administration. Remember Operation Warp Speed back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It'll be a warp speed administration in so

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Speaker 1: far as they're gonna have to do the big things

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Speaker 1: right away, right out of the gate. It's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be, you know, going for it in year one.

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Speaker 1: I think we are heading into whatever one thinks of

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Speaker 1: the different choices and policies, just in terms of the

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Speaker 1: amount of political capital that is going to be spent

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Speaker 1: by an administration. I think year one, twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: of Trump two point zero might be one of the

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Speaker 1: most consequential years we've seen in American politics in twenty years,

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Speaker 1: maybe more. I mean, I don't even know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you could quantify it. I think it might

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Speaker 1: be the most most consequential we've seen in our lifetime,

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Speaker 1: short of nine to eleven, maybe when we decided to

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Speaker 1: invade a bunch of countries. But that's another conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think Buckey out a prediction for you. We can

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Speaker 2: mention it we come back. You know, you watch Stranger Things,

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Speaker 2: right the televiency.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so you know when they.

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Speaker 2: Had the Mondel and Ferraro like yard signs and you

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Speaker 2: looked at it because it's a nostalgic show for people

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Speaker 2: who don't know. I think in the years ahead, even

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Speaker 2: people who didn't vote Trump are going to start claiming

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Speaker 2: that they voted Trump. That's when you know the vibe

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Speaker 2: shift is real. Is that four years from now, I

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Speaker 2: think Trump's going to come in and be so much

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Speaker 2: more powerful that I think people are going to be

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Speaker 2: embarrassed to say that they were Kamala Walls supporters, just

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Speaker 2: like a lot of people who voted for Ferraro and Mondel.

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Speaker 2: I've never even heard anybody talk about voting for them.

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Speaker 2: Because the Reagan Revolution was so powerful in eighty four,

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to see that with the Trump

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Speaker 2: win two