1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: New rumors in the Mets world. We got new information. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: We got We're trying to figure out the Mets offseason 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: plan just like you guys. We don't really have a clue, 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: but we're gonna try our best to parse all the 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: information we see all around the Internet and figure out 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: what the Mets could possibly do to save what's been 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: a nightmare of an offseason. Let's just put it. Put 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: it simply, it's been absolutely terrible. So before we do, 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: make sure you guys are subscribed. Not happy Christmas, that's 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: not what you say. You say Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: because we're dropping this on Christmas Eve for you guys, 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: and subscribe to Mets Up if you listening to us, 13 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, Spotify, Google drops the rating, drops the review, 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: download and subscribe. James got a lot going on this 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Mets world, not a lot of great, but maybe there 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: could be some good coming. Help me out, tell the 17 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: people what we could be excited about. Possibly, hopefully this 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: is the last departure. It feels like that maybe. 19 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Besides, like before some of the young pictures started to 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: get moved, you just sent you're saying. It just feels 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: like when the other guys went and we talked about 22 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: with you guys, the jeffmcneil trade reaction. It just felt 23 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: like when these started to go, he was the last 24 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: to go. We'll kind of expected it and happened. And 25 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: now there's just space on this roster. There's lots and 26 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: lots of space, lots of players that are necessary to 27 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: be added, and I don't know which way they're going 28 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: to turn. And we got a pretty explosive section of 29 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: a Will Sam and Ken Rosenthal article right after the 30 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil trade us the same picture of Jeff that 31 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: we used on the audio thumbnaw, which I they really need. 32 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, so it was just about kind of trying 33 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: those guys. And again, Will's had a banner offseason. He's 34 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: one of the fastest rises right now in the baseball 35 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: journalist community. But some crazy quotes in here. Just read 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: a couple for you guys. This one from a rival 37 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: executive who was granted ananimity for his candor what they've 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: done tells you how big of a shit show their 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: clubhouse was. The guessing is over. It was a disaster. 40 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: So first of all, I can't believe Alexan Thopolus would 41 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: say this. Yeah, also I couldn't care less about what 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: a rival executive thinks could have possibly happened in the 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: clubhouse because the Mets trade a bunch of guys that 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: were in this team. 45 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: What can I one up you on something from inside 46 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: the Mets building. Yeah, hit me, Will said. This is 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: how the quotes let into As one Mets person put it, 48 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: we definitely tithing tidy things up in our house. Now 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: it's time to do more rebuilding. 50 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Okay. I think that's fair. Lit'll clean up, and I 51 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: think we knew that was also partially the case too. Again, 52 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't believe that there was a problem still inside 53 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: this Mets clubhouse. I think it would have been very 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: much more obvious, and you would have known in season 55 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: way more than we knew that there was an actual problem. 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't think the guys necessarily were tight. I think 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Francisco and door Jeff McNeal definitely didn't like each other. 58 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: I think that one's well known. But I do think 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: at times the clubhouse atmosphere gets overblown by the reporters, 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: especially right now, because it's an easy pylon. 61 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: I also think there's a big difference between a clubhouse 62 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: being a shit show in a clubhouse just not being 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: good and then the clubhouse being average. In the clubhouse 64 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: being good, I think the clubhouse was just regular bad, like, 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: which is fine. 66 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: I think people win World Series a bad clubhouse. It's 67 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: also it's hard to have a good clubhouse when your 68 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: team is suck, consistently underperforming, having a major, major, complete 69 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: lapse of good play in the second half of the season. 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to hard to be like, you know what, 71 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: guys love being here every day. Also, how many big 72 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: losing streaks did the Mets have? 73 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: Like it's also the fun that's kind of a chicken 74 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: or the egg thing, Like do you keep having these 75 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: big losing streaks because of how bad this clubhouse is? 76 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: Or is how bad this clubhouses make you happy? I mean, like, 77 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's bad. I think losing makes the clubhouse bad. 78 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: I think it puts a lot of everybody. Yeah, that's 79 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: why I'm like, oh cool, Like, go ask about how 80 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: was the Tiger's clubhouse down the stretch? They collapsed too? Yeah. 81 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: The other big points, uh big at least big points 82 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: from the SAMIN article with Ken Rosenthal was the Mets 83 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: hold interest in adding a right handed batter to balance 84 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: out their lineup. People familiar with their conversation said that 85 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: could end up being someone who can also play first base. 86 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: The club needs to make a decision on whether such 87 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: a player is better than Mark Fiento's more likely they 88 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: would find that player in a trade than free agency. 89 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I just don't know who that trade, who that player 90 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: is on trades, I'm gonna I'm gonna quickly look through 91 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: some names of guys who could be a first baseman, 92 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: right handed bat. It's like, if you didn't say the 93 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: trade thing, this would be au Haaneo Suarez. It feels like, 94 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: and it feels like it probably still could be, and 95 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: he would make a ton of sense, Like in a 96 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: world where you're trying to patchwork together getting like Pete 97 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Alonzo back on this team, right, it seems like Hori 98 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: Polanco and au Haaneo Suarez if they were to kind 99 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: of be that mix, you're getting like forty home runs 100 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: from those two. 101 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that my mind went to Aano 102 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: Suaz immediately with that. 103 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I also think that. 104 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: The the Mets Paul Golshman thing, that's that's that's a 105 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: much better chance that we want to admit. 106 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: That he would rather have Mark Fientos. 107 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's exactly what the second part of 108 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: that quote means, like are let's decide if he's better, 109 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: So I think can we trade Mark Fiando's and actually 110 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: open up another roster spot to do that. I also 111 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: think if there was a trade option, it probably is 112 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Andy Diaz, but he's also not He hasn't really been 113 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: trusted defensively. 114 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: In a very long time. He's more of a d's 115 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: he's a DS. 116 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: And then like Ryan Mountcastle, like go like, if you 117 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: use the guy, that's it. 118 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: That's probably it. 119 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: If you wind up with Ryan Mountcastle and they wind 120 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: up with pe Alonzo, that definitely won't feel good in 121 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: your chest. But that's someone who would probably just a 122 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 2: cheap get as a right handed first basement. Right handed 123 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: first basement are usually rare because most are lefties, because 124 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: it's advantageous defensively to be a lefty, and also right 125 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: handed first basement can be rare because first basement is 126 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: a position that sometimes can be platoons, but I think 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: it is probably in the lesser platoon positions, so not 128 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: being as much for a platoon position if you just 129 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: more likely have the left handed hitters day they have 130 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: platwo advantages. It's a it's a strange fit trying to 131 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: find the right handed first basement when theoretically you you 132 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: might have one on your roster already. 133 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't I don't want to hear anybody 134 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: thrown out like Spencer Torkelsen or mcav or any of 135 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: those guys like there, we're not gonna be going after them. 136 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: They're not available. It is gonna be, unfortunately, more of 137 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: the bargain bin guys. But Ah Suarez feels like the 138 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: best of all those options to me. 139 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a world where you do a 140 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: swap with the Astros and wind up with Christian Walker. 141 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe like what would be the swap there, Like, 142 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you're taking money off there, like nothing that 143 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: probably not much if you can get something else with him, 144 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Like I feel like the code I saying, like Viantos 145 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: would be too much for him. I think Fianzo wis 146 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: definitely be too much. And he's a negative value contract. 147 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: He's making twenty mil to be like a you hope 148 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: to be a two win player, like if he if 149 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Christian Walker just had that last season, he's a free 150 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: agent right now, He's not matching the two for four 151 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: that he's owed at the moment, or maybe maybe he 152 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: about gets that, like maybe he's not viewed that differently 153 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: than au Henriosjuarez on the market. 154 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, can I tickle your your fancy with Ryan Mountcastle 155 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: for one second? Just be be a sick oh, because 156 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a really good chance he is in 157 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: New York Met in twenty twenty six saying that out loud, 158 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: hearing the trade right handed back completely forgetting that the 159 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: Earls have our first baseman. Where the hell is Ryan 160 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Mountcastle gonna play? Well, I saw I let that in. Yeah, 161 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: he'd be sick and discussing do they have Pilanzo opening 162 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: day and we have Ryan Moucastle. Yeah, that would be 163 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: oh god, oh, people are hating our guts right now. 164 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: All right. 165 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: They also have to deal with Kobe Meyo too, like 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: they had they signed Pelanza with having other options there. 167 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: It's just they wanted the bat and a ball one 168 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen last year, one sixteen point seven. It's hard. 169 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: It is disgusting that they hear this line and be 170 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: like the Mets hold interest in adding a right handed 171 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: batter to balance their lineup that could also play first base. 172 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: I have a really good idea who that could be. 173 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: There was someone that did that, but hear me out, Peterzo. 174 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: They can't rehash that there. 175 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: And I do think that the one big rumor that 176 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: continues to circulate that I think we did want to 177 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: focus on big part of this video one is the 178 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: katel Marte murmurs. 179 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: I really, in my gut, in my heart, don't think so. 180 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: But there's just a report from Ken Rosenthal on foul 181 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Territory on Tuesday that said the Diamondbacks likely won't trade 182 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: katel Marte unless they receive young pitching in return. With 183 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: that said, they seem motivated to move him because of 184 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: his looming ten five rights and ten five rights, guys, 185 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: is when a player spends ten years in the league 186 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: and then five five of those ten years with one team, 187 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: you get a no trade clause, which is kind of crazy. 188 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: It's great for the players, Yeah, great for the players. 189 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: So Ken, I don't open data, ye can tell Marte 190 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: gets those ten five rights, and there's so much buzz 191 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: about him being traded this offseason. 192 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: It feels like it's going to happen. Those ten and 193 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: five rights things are interesting. I never even considered that 194 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: once when talking about Cantel Marte is being a trade 195 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: candidate this offseason. I never think about ten and five 196 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: rights ever. Oh, I for sure mention that on the 197 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: wind up, no doubt about it. I just I completely 198 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: blacked it out that I didn't hear it for a 199 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: second when in one year out the other, I would 200 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: of course still love Kateel Marte on this team. The 201 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 1: problem is, and something that me and you talked about 202 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: in text and DMS was when that clip of Ken 203 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Rosendaal and foul territory came out. If like, the Mets 204 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: clearly have some of the young pitching that would be available, 205 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: and this deal would be done already if you could 206 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: have given up Sprote or Will Watson or Santucci or Wenninger, 207 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: it seems like this has to be Jonahtan And then 208 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: there's the conversation of do you want to trade Jonahtanng 209 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: for Kateel Marte. No. I think that even opens up 210 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: a bigger discussion about and I think there's something Guy's 211 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: been very different opinions than every side of baseball. How 212 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: valuable is that could tell Marte on this contract? So 213 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I could hear an argument that could tell mart that 214 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: this contract could tell Marte is on is one of 215 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: the most favorable in the league. Like Untel, Marte is 216 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: account less than twenty million dollars against your luxury tax 217 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: threshold every single year. He's only making a maximum. 218 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: He's doing sixteen million in your payroll this year, twelve 219 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: million next year, and then twenty million dollars for three years, 220 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: jumps up to twenty two, and then he's a player 221 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: option for eleven million when he's thirty seven years old. 222 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: But then that's the other side of. 223 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: This, because you'd be buying years thirty two through thirty seven. 224 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: Four kud tell Marte who's had heaps and heaps of 225 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: muscle strains and weird injuries and weird reports about his 226 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: commitment that I don't believe, but they still made it 227 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: out there, and then you're still getting a guy that 228 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: probably isn't It just doesn't matter for the mess I'm 229 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: just talking about, like the contract discussion in general, Like 230 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: he's not he's not good. He's not a great defensive 231 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: second basement anymore. You could probably play him there, but 232 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: you also might convince yourself as a team that you're 233 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: mostly buying the bat because for the last two years 234 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: he's been literally I'm not even exaggerally like a top 235 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: six hitter in baseball. 236 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: He's he's a top ten player in baseball. It's it's 237 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: the injury thing that's that's quite literally the only thing 238 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: that worries me ever about Kutel Marte is that, like 239 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned, and we've done on the podcast before, going 240 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: through all the injuries that he's accumulated over like the 241 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: last three years, and they're doing it. I mean, you 242 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: could if you'd like, if you want to pull that 243 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: up and just let the people know. But it's like 244 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: always muscle soft tissue like stuff where it's like maybe 245 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: stretch a little bit, maybe drink a little water. Feels 246 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: like the conversations we had about Jeff McNeil. But can 247 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: tell Martes is a much better player. 248 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So here's every single reason could tell Martes missed 249 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: the game lately, foot foot growing, hamstring, ankle, lower body, hands, back, back, illness, knee, quad, back, 250 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: undisclosed hamstring, hamstring, hand, hip, hamstring, hamstring, wrist. 251 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: That was since the twenty twenty season. And if you 252 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: break down, like let's just say, you don't take the 253 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: team option right when he's thirty seven years old. Let's 254 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: just take it as player options not on you isn't 255 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: a player option? Yep? Oh okay, then Baseball Reference has 256 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: oh player option. Nice. Okay. Well, let's say so I'll 257 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: have the eleven million to two. It's actually gonna take 258 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: the money down a little bit, but from ninety one 259 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: plus eleven is gonna put us at one O two. 260 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: So one O two over six years, right, yep. That 261 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: comes out to about seventeen million dollars average over over 262 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: the time of that contract when you do compare zero 263 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: point four against the luxury attax, which is the real, 264 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: the real. Sure, okay, So you compare that to like 265 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: the guys getting paid around nineteen million dollars a year 266 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: right now, it's like almost impossible to find good players 267 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: at that price point over a long term contract. Like 268 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: the guys were getting paid similar ish money. Jung lu 269 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Li to tell Martees there, Jose Airmers is the unicorn 270 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: where you're like, what the fuck, Like that's one of 271 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: the best contracts ever. Brandon Nimo would be making more 272 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: money over that time. Josh Naylor just got eighteen and 273 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: a half million dollars over the next five years in 274 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: terms of other hitters like Massa, Takayo, Sheeta got similar 275 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: value over the next five years and not that dissimilar 276 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: of an age. No, so it's like early thirties. While 277 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: there there is some risk again with the age, and 278 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not particularly gonna age well just because 279 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: of the body being bad at thirty I can't imagine 280 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna get better at thirty six or at thirty 281 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: two already. Yeah, So it's like that's where the concern is. 282 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: But man, having him on this roster instantly makes them 283 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: way better, so much better. He's so good. 284 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: Well, this is the part of it, Like the alleviated 285 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: concern could come from the fact that he will not 286 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: be playing second base for the Mets. Can tell Marte 287 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: if he were to come to the Mets in our 288 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: fantasy world that we're living in at this exact moment, 289 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: seems like he would be splitting time between first base, 290 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: left field and DH. Yeah, and can tell Marte was 291 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: playing like not a good center field, but he was 292 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: playing center field standing there with his two feet as 293 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: recently as three I think three or four years ago. Now, 294 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: he could probably fake it over there for a little bit. 295 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: It's not the best arm in the world, but he 296 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: still is a good athlete. But as a first base 297 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: DH and for the right handed hither thing, he has 298 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: so much more bat speed. He's so much palazy from 299 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: the right side compared to the left side. Seems like 300 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: he just hits from the left side because he kind 301 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: of can, and he goes to the right side to 302 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: really do his hitting. So he can be someone that 303 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: can fill this void, can be a big stopper in 304 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: this met's lineup gainst left handed pitching. 305 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: Like there's as a fit. 306 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: And also then let's we even just talk about the 307 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: fact that's probably just us first, the Red Sox versus 308 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Mariners to get him. 309 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: Feels like it like that of all the teams that, like, 310 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: is there another team that we're missing because they're not 311 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: gonna train him to the Dodgers, that would be insane, right. 312 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess the Dodgers are in play and 313 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays are technically in play. 314 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: Blue Jays are definitely in play. 315 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it seems like they're probably more focused 316 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: on the free agent market, and I mean. 317 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: They don't I don't think they have like a in 318 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: a bidding war scenario. The Blue Jays are never gonna 319 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: have the best young pitcher because they're not trading trey 320 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: Y Savage. No, they're definitely not. And then their next 321 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: year of pitchers, it's that was the guy. Keep for it. 322 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: I always forget their next young tier of pitchers' names, but. 323 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: They're far away. 324 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: They have a couple of guys that are like Hi 325 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: a double A who were like looking decent by the 326 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 2: end of last year. What's the guy's name, I can't 327 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: remember right now, but they've Johnny King from last year, 328 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: the draft standard Ford, that's the one who got to 329 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: double A, who looks pretty nice. 330 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: But this is still not our. 331 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: Mid tier even without Joan and Tongue beats them, I think, basimply, 332 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: I think the two teams that are the ones that 333 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: can't come over the top on us, but again be 334 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: the Red Sox and the Mariners. But the Red Sox 335 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: just kind of really flushed out the middle tier of 336 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: their pitching farm system, and I don't think that they 337 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,239 Speaker 2: would ever consider trading a Payton totally, a Kaiser, Witherspoon 338 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: or kindly Early. 339 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Truthfully, it feels risky. I mean, for the same reasons 340 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: that the Mets are not considering possibly trading Jonah Tong. 341 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I think both these teams are trying to find any 342 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: possible way to not trade their premium, premium pitching prospect. 343 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: And I know some of you at home are probably 344 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: screaming at us, going I trade Jonah Tong for katl Marte. 345 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: What do we think of? What are we talking about? 346 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Prospects or suspects whatever the you know, people like to 347 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: say Buck Show Walter, no such thing as prospects. But 348 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Jonah Tong, if he didn't come up last year, if 349 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: you didn't see him pitch a single inning, he would 350 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: be one of the most untouchable prospects right now in 351 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: all of baseball. So I don't is from the Mets perspective. 352 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: I think I think people around baseball there's a reason 353 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: people want Jonah Tong. Like people were like, oh, you 354 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: want one of the best players baseball, well you have 355 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: to give us Jonah town prospects. I think both of 356 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: these teams are trying to find a way to get 357 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: katl Marte without having to give up the Crown Jewels. 358 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: And that's why again I wanted to start that with 359 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: that contract discussion, because it is. It's a very difficult 360 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: contract I think to track because of how strange his 361 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: archetype is. Like he's peaking at thirty one, thirty two 362 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: years old as a hitter, yeah, while he's been off 363 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: injured his entire career, while he's losing all of his 364 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: defensive values. So I could definitely see a team where 365 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, like, like, what do you 366 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: think of tell Marte is worth for the next five years? 367 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Twenty war probably, I think that's pretty conservative. That's like 368 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: four year, Yeah, but if he's not playing second base 369 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: defense anymore, I think four year would be a lot 370 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: for first base DH. Yeah, I don't know. His WRC 371 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: plus was still like, like you said, like one of 372 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: the five six best on the planet. It's one fifty 373 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: over two years. It's just we just saw Wan Soto 374 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: put up like eight WRC plus and like, be awful, awful, 375 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: I right, feel terrible. 376 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm assuming he's missing a half year for injury somewhere 377 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: in there. I'm baking. I'm making that into my model, 378 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: my mental projection right now. 379 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like, and then just Peyton Robinson cano twenty 380 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year to be forty those idiots 381 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of this guy's so good, Who's what I'm saying. 382 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: But that's why there seems to be a disconnect between 383 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: these top teams trading their top pitching prospects. And that's 384 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: with Joanahtong, it's the Red Sox either earlier totally, and 385 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: it'd probably be the Mariners with Kate Anderson. 386 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna move Kated Anderson for him. 387 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: So I think now once that entire tier clears, I 388 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: think all three of those teams like, we're not doing that. 389 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: Then you move on to the next year. And then 390 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: with the Red Sox again, I think that tier starts 391 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: with Kyson Witherspoon, who was there first round draft pick 392 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: last year. 393 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Just an absolute specimen. He's gonna throw his gas gas 394 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: he's freak, freaking nature. But then it was the last year, 395 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: the first pick a couple years ago, it was last year. 396 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: It was last year. 397 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: And then then you go to the Mets and it 398 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: becomes this grouping of sprote Wenninger, Watson, Christian Scott even 399 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: throw him in there. 400 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Christian Scott was that crazy. 401 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: To say, not at all, I think, So, I mean 402 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: I think I got I guess I hate online for 403 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: my Mike Wilson Contrera's trade comp. Like got a lot 404 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: of other people being like that was a good trade comp. 405 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: Who what I believe? More so, I was like, okay, 406 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: like that trade comp. And I think think that Christian's 407 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: God is a great piece for both the Mets and 408 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: a team right now because you still have legitimate upside 409 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: yes on him. While getting you'd be buying into risk. 410 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: But it's like it's like it's a floor of our 411 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: ceiling debate there, which is fun. We're sprote is much 412 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: more of a tighter, you know, range of outcomes. 413 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Not the same ish, but it's kind of similar issue 414 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: when like the Mets trade for Zaquiler, who he knew 415 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: was like had some injury issues when he was with 416 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: the Giants. That was the reason why they moved off 417 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: of him for Carlos Peltron. They were like, we can 418 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: we can take that risk of him being a healthy 419 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: guy ended up becoming healthy is one of the best 420 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball now, but even still it took for 421 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: him then still going to the Phillies to even get 422 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: to that next level. Like sometimes these guys while we 423 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: know there could be that high ceiling, it might take 424 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: a while and the Mets might not really be worried 425 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: about that. It was the same thing last year with 426 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the Garret Crochet Red Sox trade. Like in retrospect right now, 427 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: again every team is like every fan base like every 428 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: single team should have done that trade. But at the 429 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: time Garic Crochet had under two hundred major league innings 430 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: and I think what was it, like ninety of them 431 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: were as a starter. The rest of them were like 432 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: as lever. 433 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: He had just spent three months going in like to 434 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: the four inning increments, like it was a very like 435 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: And the Red Sox traded two Bona Fie top hundred 436 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: prospects to get and the major league ready middle infielder 437 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: and another like kind of far away pitching speck like 438 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: it was a monster package. 439 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: Forman, Yeah, I think he's gonna be at the major 440 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: league level this year now, Like even then, that's it's huge. 441 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: Mydrawth in Braydon Montgomery looks like a dude who's gonna 442 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: be an outfield There's gonna be like probably twenty percent 443 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: better in the league. Gaverage Heather with Twitch and Kyle 444 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: Teal likes he's like he looks a player. 445 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the ballplayer right there. The Red Sox like 446 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: him so much, they're trying They're interested in bringing them back. 447 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: They're like, how can we get Kyle Teal back? Yeah, 448 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: that was the report. It was. 449 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: It was just over two hundred major league inings for 450 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: Gary Crochet at the time of the trade. But still 451 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: the point stands, like, sometimes there's some risket for the biscuit. 452 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: I think the Mets in that middle tier of pitching 453 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: because the Mariners, well there is a lot of pitching, 454 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: they don't really have the middle tier of pitching prospects. 455 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: I think a team like the Diambacks would love like 456 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: I have dude, like they have got I don't like 457 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: like Bryce Miller. It's like Ryan Sloan, Logan Evans. Those 458 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: guys are like floating around the top one hundreds. But 459 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't see the hype with them. I'm sure that. 460 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: The people running teams like see those guys stuffs and 461 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: they're like, all right, these aren't, like, you know, freaks. 462 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: I think Ryan Sloan has a little bit more stuff, 463 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: But the rest of that crew, like Gerangelos, how you say, 464 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: like that's that's just a weird though. 465 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: That's just so confusing to me. 466 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I want to get into that, 467 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: but it's like like they the managers have really interesting 468 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: low like miners hitters. Yes, if the Dinamacks want controllable 469 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: pitching again, I keep coming back to the Mets and 470 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: the Reds and the Red Sox, like those are the 471 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: teams that have it, and the Red Sox just dumped 472 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: a lot of there, so can the Mets just can 473 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: you just wait this out and do a Scott A 474 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: Scott and Sweninger. Well, this is gonna be I think 475 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Nowton Watson like the kind of bigger overall theme that 476 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 2: we're gonna have for this this episode is that it 477 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: feels like for the Mets to have the best offseason 478 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: and this is gonna be. 479 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: This is gonna be disgusting. Get ready to throw up 480 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: and crash your car into a tree on the side 481 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: of the road. Is waiting, it's just wait, wait, wait, 482 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Like we even got like a little rumor today about 483 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: Austin Hayes. Wait wait, no one is no one is 484 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: rushing to sign aust Hayes. If we signed Austin Hayes 485 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: before February, before your birthday, James before Valentine's Day? Why 486 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: no one's rushing to sign him. I'm sure he can 487 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: be an okay player. I know, I said, gonna be 488 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: violently depressed if they do sign him. If they signed him, 489 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: he can throw in the self harmed I did. I did, 490 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: if you if we if they sign him before Valentine's Day, 491 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I might have lost all faith. David Stearns, I might 492 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: have to say that. 493 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we also know that signing a guy like 494 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: Austin Hayes is just so Carson Bench could get eased in. 495 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, I know, but the 496 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: reason for that. The Austin Hayes Hayes archetype. It exists 497 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: the day on opening day, you could find ten of them. 498 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: That's ten of them, maybe three of them, but yeah, 499 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: that's more than zero. I just I just put a video. 500 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: On my personal channel about how the Met's best thing 501 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: they can do is officine again is continue to wait. 502 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Like you could get patients. You can get a short 503 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: term Holy balancer. 504 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: If you wait through you could probably get short terms 505 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez and fran Bravaldez's Again, I don't know if 506 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna pay the qualifying offers for those last two guys. 507 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: But if we know the Diamondbacks have a need desire 508 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: to get tree Cantel Marte in opening days, their deadline 509 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: to do it, and the Red Sox have traded a 510 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: bunch of their prospects, and we have the most abundant 511 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: thing that they need, which is close to the major league. 512 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: Controllable starting pitchers. Wait, just stairb, look them in the eye. 513 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: Let me know when. Let's wait, I think not getting 514 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: Jonah Tong, let me know when. Like the few times 515 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: this Mets organization recently has been very aggressive in signing 516 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: guys that seemed like nobody else was going after it 517 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: had it worked that well, so I would love I'd 518 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: love to just continue to be patient. I don't think 519 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: can tell Marte's coming off the board anytime soon. I 520 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: really don't. And as the days the days go on, 521 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: it feels like it's more and more in the Mets 522 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: favor to just wait on all these guys who want 523 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: to get paid money. Mets will give them money, especially 524 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: with how slow this offseason has actress to this point 525 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: like it's kind of ridiculously before when the offseason started, 526 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: Mark Fine sandmb dot Com ranked the top thirty free 527 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: agents available. Fourteen of the thirty are still available, including 528 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: five of the top seven. 529 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's the whole thing is right in front 530 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: of us, still ready to go. 531 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: And also I love to see where Bobaschet goes too, 532 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: because that's gonna take one more team off. That can 533 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: tell Marte your list as well. 534 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah again, orbit Or also could put one team on 535 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: very harshly, possibly like if the Dodgers can still. 536 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Jump in and kind of ruin all of these trade packages. 537 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: Like sadly, I just I can't see the Diamondbacks trading 538 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: in division like that a skuy Who's just who's going 539 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: to beat your face in for the next six years? 540 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Last time these teams played 541 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, who won Diamondbacks They had to tell 542 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Marte that's true. But so there the Dodger's pitching depth 543 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: is more of like it is probably a little bit 544 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: still beauty in the eye of the beholder, like you're 545 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: not I don't think you're getting Emmachi in. And then 546 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: it's like how much do you want River Ryan coming 547 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: off injury? I mean, I still love Gavin Stone, but 548 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: these are guys. 549 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: But again, like I don't know, I think those guys 550 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: are a little bit better than Christian Scott, but I 551 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: think there's a similar level of risk and Scott. You 552 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: could convince me that Scott has more upside some of 553 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: those guys. Just on I was gonna say, fastball shape, 554 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: the extension, like all the specs that Chris Scott has 555 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: having like a good east west pitch with a with 556 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: a fastball, it has like decent vertical move, like that's 557 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: there's stuff, there's got. All these Mets pitches are so 558 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: close to just click latching it in together. Is it's 559 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: gonna be Its gonna be funier to watching these guys. 560 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: I think that's part of this too. Yes, I think 561 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: the Mets love their farm system. 562 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I actually do. 563 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: I think the Mets are confident that these they got 564 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: some dudes, and I think I think they should if 565 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: they want to try. 566 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: We talked about it in the mc neil video right 567 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: where it's like we have nine borderline top one hundred 568 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: prospects right now. There's like not many farm systems that 569 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: can really have that conversation of having almost double digit 570 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: guys in the top one hundred. We almost make up 571 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: ten percent of the top one hundred and a league 572 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: that has thirty teams. 573 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: And again, we're gonna graduate a few of these guys 574 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: early in the season. I think we're gonna get more 575 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: guys that jump into the back when that's done, Like 576 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: guys like Eli Serrano just had a great year in 577 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: the minor le league. Again, we've we're flowing it. 578 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: We're going to give you guys our top ten Mets 579 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: prospects soon. We're going to do it. Today we were like, 580 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: it's just too much offseason to talk about stuff. I 581 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, like listen on the comment section, 582 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: like are you guys ready to hear about prospects yet? 583 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Because like last year we could do it because we 584 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: signed Juan Soto, like it was like happy happy days. 585 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: Right now, it's a little dark and dude, gloomy. I 586 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys want to hear about like 587 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in three years for some guys. 588 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: How much you guys wanna hear about the Jaywings swing decisions. 589 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: But they're they're good, so I kind of want to 590 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: talk about them. 591 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: It's just this I don't know, but like the still 592 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: the still seems like the avalanche probably a year away, though, 593 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: So you want to you want to be able to 594 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: float this year? Like we How are we still not 595 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: talking about guys that we can get for the rotation? 596 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: It's crazy how little we've talked about that. I don't 597 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: know how we do it. Besides, like again, all the 598 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: ones out there, the only ones that I'm interested in, 599 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna wait, You're not rushing to give them their 600 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: long term contracts. I again, I don't want Nick Martinez. 601 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't want Chris Bassett. I don't want those arms. 602 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: If we're gonna go out and get somebody, let's go 603 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: get somebody that's actually good, that makes his team a 604 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: higher ceiling. 605 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So then I'm gonna go to that that finds 606 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: article right now, get his top ten free agents. 607 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I want you to tell me who who you want 608 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: to get? Okay, who I'd be interested in the Mets having, 609 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: Like if they signed him, I'd be like, okay, or 610 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: I have a how about this? 611 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: Actually, I'm gonna start reading down this list. You give 612 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: me a percentage likelihood you think these guys could be 613 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: a met Okay, I'll do that. 614 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker twenty five percent, it's fair number. Bragman ten percent, Yeah, 615 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: one percent, Bo zero percent. Maybe he can play first base. 616 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: I don't think I want him playing first be the 617 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: solution zero percent. Shit Bellinger forty percent. Who are the 618 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: next one? Here? Oh? Rangers? Suarez twenty five percent? Who 619 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: finds in ranked higher than Framberani? Mine? That's that's brain dead. Also, 620 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: i'n't heard anything about Ama either, that's what I'm saying, 621 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: is the next one? 622 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: Or Okamoto or we've heard nothing about Como. There was 623 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: a report about who was actually interested in him, and 624 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: the Mets. We're not on the list, so interesting. It 625 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: might just be something that we're not We don't see it. 626 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: We're not in. 627 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: I think he's also a left handed bat, so maybe 628 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: the Mets don't want that. I think he's alrighty to 629 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: talk to m he's a lefty, Yeah, Marcama is lefty, 630 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: was alreighty. 631 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: Maybe they're just not confident, Okay, I don't know. You 632 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: can definitely play first I know I think so, but 633 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: he just he seems rock solid. I don't know. 634 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: I think I also like Ocamalo more than the field 635 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: at this point, just from five, A couple of those 636 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: better batted balls than we're being reported. But it's just 637 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: he's think he's good. So then last one, Framber. U 638 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: think Framer is the highest of all these guys. 639 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: That's that's just my gut is every day that goes by, 640 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: I think more and more Framer's gonna end up being 641 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: a met on that contract that you talk about where 642 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: it's a three year opt out after two, give him 643 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: like three for one hundred, call it a day. Everybody's happy. Yeah, 644 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: mine is mine might sell you Henyo for similar I would, 645 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: I would love it. I'd love him on this roster. 646 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Give me forty home runs into this lineup right now. 647 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: He's just a way, way, way better version of Mark 648 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: Viento's talk about an upgrade. I love I honestly, big brain, 649 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: get a swarz. Let Mark Vianto is just hang around 650 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: au Haneo. He would love for his career to be 651 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: au Haaneo. Suarez is a former shortstop as well. Mark 652 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: Viento's people forget that one. 653 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: Hen You also seems like kind of fits the bill 654 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: of these guys the Mets are trying to brigan again. 655 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: We started this whole podcast talking about the the Alexandopolos's 656 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: anonymous QUARTERBA show in the CLUBHOUSEWI. 657 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those guys. 658 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's just he's just everyone loves 659 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: Ayo Henyo spar Is good guy. 660 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: I know people love him. 661 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: I remember when we went to a Mets managers game 662 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: two years ago and it was like him and Luis 663 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: Castille were just yesday or everywhere, these guys were gregarious, 664 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: Like everyone's wanted to hang out and chill with these fellas. 665 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: Good vibes, good vibes and good at basing, yeah, good 666 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: at very good at base lot. 667 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: You know what, He's got a lot of testosterone. It 668 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: does the tea guy. 669 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: But there's this there's so staying at roster resource right now, 670 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: like where are the baseball players? 671 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Well, we did it yesterday, right we were like, yeah, 672 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: there's what fifteen guys that I feel pretty confident should 673 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: be on the major league roster, and then the other 674 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: eleven spots. I'm like, I got no idea, what's going on. 675 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna be here or not. 676 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: No clues. Just there's just such a big check less 677 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: and there's just there's so many trades that Mets have 678 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: to make too, just to clean up even the guys 679 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: that are currently on the roster at the major league 680 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: level that I don't think will be Like I just 681 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: I don't see how Luis don Helocun is on this 682 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: team next year. I still do just because speeding defense. 683 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: Like I think some of this clearing depending on which 684 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: you can get in trades for these guys in the offseason. 685 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: It is to give. 686 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: One more good old chance to Mauricio Acunya and Viento's 687 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: collectively not saying they're going to have starting spots and 688 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: opening Day because I doubt really any of those guys do. 689 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: Might be the dhan Oping day. I wouldn't be surprised 690 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: at that if Planco's just playing first. If we don't 691 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: get you Henyo, maybe that's just all Gulshman tune. It's 692 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: just him and Ronnie. Let Ronnie swing lefty and Viant 693 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: to hit lefties. 694 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like Ronnie can play defense, he just can't 695 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: how should I phrase this, can't hit righty. Sometimes the 696 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: game just leaves him while it's going on. Like Io, 697 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: I found a highlight from twenty twenty three I forgot 698 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: the other day when I was doing that video on 699 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: my channel about remember it was a bunch from Xavier Edwards, Yes, 700 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: and Ronnie charged it with Lukezi, and Lukezi threw the 701 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: third base because Ronnie Charge wasn't bearing the ball into 702 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: the like it's just like, I don't know, and then 703 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: like some of those mental mistakes he made down the 704 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: stretch where it's like, I know, physically you can handle 705 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: this game well and you could play pus defense two 706 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: positions and you have disgusting power from the left side 707 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: of the plate like that alone should get to a 708 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: roster spot. It's just just yeah, you're so close, Like, 709 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: just click it in. I'm interested to see what's gonna 710 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: go on again. I think patience is the name of 711 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: the game, which is so fun as a fan. Nothing 712 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: like sitting around waiting seeing other teams doing things fun 713 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: for us, fun for us because we get to just 714 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: talk about everything going on, and especially now that we're 715 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: just pumping out content on Mets up the wind up 716 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: my channel, your channel. There's a lot of baseball talk 717 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: going around and Mets are at the forefront of a 718 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: good chunk of it, so much of it. 719 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: It's just I think it's the most fun thing to 720 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: talk about with the Mets, with any baseball team this 721 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: time of year, is options. What Yes, those people can 722 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: do the Mets can do. 723 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Anything, can can Can you find me an option that's 724 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: not Austin Hayes? Just make me feel better to end 725 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: this anything and option that's not Austin Hayes. Yeah, that's 726 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: not Austin Haes. Rob rev Snyder just got signed. I 727 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: would have loved Rob Refsnyder over Austin Hayes. 728 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: You want a right handed hitting guy that could play 729 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: the affield, that's not Austin Hayes. 730 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: That's not Austin Hayes. Yes, I mean, I mean there's 731 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: two right handed hitters I'm sure that Mets will wind 732 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: up speaking to at some point, and he's Hoskins and 733 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: Paul Goldschmidt. I can't play the outfield though, I can't 734 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: play the outfield, but those would be fun. So that'd 735 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: be that would be like what a Dylan arc Dylan Moore? 736 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I can't beat him. 737 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Would you ask for? Right? Is the right handed to 738 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: think guy that could play the outfield? All right, I'm 739 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna look at this list. Now, there's gotta be someone 740 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: that you're missing on purpose, Hernandez, I'm just doing a scroll. 741 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: He's I think Miguel on Duhar. I hate it, but 742 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: I do like it more than Austin Hayes. Bring back Up, 743 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Bring back Tommy fam. 744 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: This is just for Shannon the Marcanda reunion. It's not 745 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: gonna happen there. He's gonna say it out loud. 746 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: What about it? Is there any world Harrison Bader comes back? Yeah? Probably? 747 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Why not? Would you take grand Lecritchick or Austin Hayes. 748 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: That's like, that's that talk about how many people just 749 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: turned off the side. So it's like I can't even 750 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: say what the cop, what the thing is? I'll tek you. 751 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: Austin Hayes at least has like a better arm. Austin 752 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: Hayes feels like he's more apt of He's like, I 753 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: actually right, Grischer has a great arm too. 754 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: I think I probably lean Hayes, but I could why 755 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: not actually give me Gimrichard Ritchick still has better batspeed? 756 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, way better under lying day Okay, Ritchick still 757 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: that maybe that's the guy Randall Gritchuck that still makes 758 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: me feel depressed. But like again, like we know we 759 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: talked about friend. We need a right handed caddy for 760 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Carson Bench we have, Yeah, you need to have that 761 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: on this roster. You need someone who can be a 762 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: right hander on this team when when we're facing tough lefties, 763 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: time for Miguel Miguel Margo. No, that's not his name, 764 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: Manuel Margo. Yeah. 765 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: I mean again, I think Baither, I think Ritchuk, I 766 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: think I do hard then do Hart proof he could 767 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: play the outfield. 768 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: No, he can't play the outfield. He might be a 769 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: first base option. He practically probably is the first base 770 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: tache option. Heyjsley Glacier's played left field last year, right 771 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Starling Marte. It probably end up being Starling Marte's Starling 772 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Starling Marte. And so though we're at the Jack Paul 773 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: Fight starring Marte, is gonna be a New York met 774 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, isn't he? He's just gonna come 775 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: back and be just He just can't play the outfield. 776 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: I think we know how much he can't play the outfield. 777 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: He just can't be on this team. 778 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: You think you think that David Sterns would be blood 779 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: thirsty to kick get rid of this entire core, and 780 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: he would still resign Charlie Marta. 781 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: It's fair, it's a good point. It's really just I 782 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: just can't. I just can't see that. I just can't 783 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: no way, Oh how this is what a what a 784 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: awful off season. This is Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody. 785 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed Christmas Eve, hope you enjoyed Christmas. Dead 786 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: when you see this, Uh, we brought you just fat 787 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: lumps of col he said, you're excited to guess what? 788 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: Wait even longer you wait, keep waiting. Would Michael Scott say, 789 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: Happy Birthday? Jesus? Are your party so lame? Yeah? Pretty 790 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: much that kind of thing. All right, all right, I've 791 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: had enough. I think you guys have to subscribe to 792 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: mess up. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, guys, thank you 793 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: so much for watching. We'll catch you on the next one. 794 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: Peace out. Hey you guys for a great year. Merry Christmas. 795 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: Let's go met see you next time.