1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Gearing up for week two of OTA's what improvements can 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: we see from week one of practice to week two? 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: How will the offensive line depth chart shakeout? And what 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: are the offensive coordinator hops say about QB one and 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: his off schedule runs. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode eight 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: eighty nine, and it starts right now. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 3: Boa Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast visit Azycardinals 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 4: He's at the ten half of five hes it again, 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: so more hurry magic. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Whoa. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Here's Danny Sirek. 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Continuing to fill in for Craig Grieler, who is just 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: enjoying his vacation time. Zach Gershman, I'm Danny Surrek. We're 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: good teammates, Zach, we are. 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: We are. 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: Craig's already sent a handful of photos from the trip, 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: so at least we know he's enjoying it. But then again, 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: knowing Craig, he's probably also walking around and having a 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: headphone in and listening to us on the podcast. 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: So Hi, Craig. 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I told him to shut it out to try and 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: join his vacation. But that is easier said than done 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: for someone like Craig, who is very dialed in at 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: all times. 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure he's keeping notes. Now I'm surprised normally we get. 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: You know, Craig during every single press conference is dying 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: down notes of every particular point. So we miss him 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: because we haven't had those in the previous few press conferences. 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 3: But soon enough he'll be back. 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Ota started last week for the Cardinals. Three practices, three 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: more this week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, we will hear from 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: head coach Jonathan Gannon. Tuesday, we've talked about the practice 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: from last Wednesday a little bit, just though, what were 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: your overarching thoughts on what you saw? First time we 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: saw a lot of these players out on the field. 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: Was nice to see, you know, the coaching staff how 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: they're interacting with the players. Again, there's a lot of 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 4: new coaches. We've talked before on Wednesday's episode about coach 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: Devo and his energy. You also have Justin Fry with 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: the offensive lineman, Matt Feeney with the outside linebackers, so 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: that was interesting to see a new face over there, 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: Christian Garcia as well with the inside linebackers. So it's 47 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: really just a matter of seeing the new coaches out there. 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: Then again, though, it was just it was nice to 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: see guys wearing helmets, being back on the field and 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: you know, feeling like football is back in the air. 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Phase three, offense and defense out on the field at 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: the same time, not going up against each other and 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: not seeing one on ones. This is also the time 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: when you get to have a little fun. You take 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: everything with a small grain of salt because it is voluntary, 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: so you don't have every player out there. It's not 57 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: always something that you need to stress over or question 58 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: worry about. But this is the time when you can 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: have fun seeing things like Evan Brown, who was your 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: left guard all last season, taking steps at center because 61 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: yeld To for a hole wasn't out on the field 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: We saw Evan Brown taking snaps at center when he 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: was with the Seattle Seahawks and through his handful of 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: other stops in the league, and when he came to 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals, you just put yelled defro Hold on 67 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: a contract extension. You knew Evan Brown was going to 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: be your left guard with a Yell defro Hold not there, 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: and we're not sure. Once again, it's speculation season. It's 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: funny because we talk about free agency and draft being 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: speculation season. 72 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: Then once the. 73 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: Draft's over, you're like, all right, speculation's over until Ota 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 4: is begin and you're wondering where everybody's out. There's a 75 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: chance Yelled defro Hold is back out there on the 76 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: practice field this week. There's a chance he's not. Once again, 77 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: it is voluntary. But in the meantime, we do get 78 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: to see Evan Brown at center, and he's obviously going 79 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: to be rotating between center and his primary position of 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: left guard, but to know that you at least have 81 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: some depth behind Yell defro Hold, and it's a quality 82 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: starter in Evan Brown. 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: It's a it's a reassuring factor. 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: There's depth along that offensive line, and it's so early. 85 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: It really won't be closer until training camp in July, 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: when we can start seeing more and a consistent basis 87 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: in practices where this coaching staff feels the depth is 88 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: for all five positions across the line of where someone 89 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: like John Gaines fits in on the depth chart with 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Christian Jones going into year two at right tackle, but 91 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: keeping swing tackle Calvin Beacham. Those are things that is 92 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: just going to take some time. You can't really gather 93 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: all that information after one practice, and. 94 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: It's also going to be nice only actual report on 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: it too. 96 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I do know, and you mentioned John Gaines, 97 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: and I know that there's an affinity between Danny Surak 98 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: and John Gaines the football player. 99 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: But I think that he's a. 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: Player that is flying heavily under the radar this year 101 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: because a new offensive line coach, Justin fry recruited John 102 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: Gaines to UCLA when they were together over there in Calli, 103 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: so there's familiarity there. And obviously, because Justin Fry came 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: from Ohio State, we right away connect Paris Johnson Junior 105 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: with coach Frye. However, during his introductory press conference, he 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: did mention Johnny Gaines, which was so interesting hearing Johnny Gains. 107 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: But he did mention. 108 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: The the former twenty twenty three fifth round talent because 109 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: he has that familiarity with him. So he yes, he 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: is relying on Paris Johnson Junior, but he also has 111 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: another familiar face in that room. 112 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Another relationship connection that was already started before their time 113 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: here in Arizona together. So week two of OTA's Tuesday, Wednesday, 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: Thursday will be out at practice Tuesday. What do you 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: want to see that you either saw us week and 116 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: want to see a continuation of or what are you 117 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: hoping to see differently from week two of. 118 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: OTAs of course, we want to see if any of 119 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 4: the guys that were working off to the sides, the 120 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: Walter Nolan's of the world, that they are going to 121 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: be returning to the main practice field with the defensive 122 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: line unit. Blond Nichols was another player that was working 123 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: off to the sides. I think a guy like Blond Nichols, 124 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: you would hope that whatever he is rehabbing, that that 125 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: process has accelerated as best as it can while also 126 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: maintaining just the health factor of it, because he is 127 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: a player that's going to be competing for a roster 128 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: spot in that heavily competitive defensive line room. So you 129 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: want to see if any of those guys are going 130 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: to be returning into the mix. And also, on top 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: of that, what's standing out about that inside linebacker room. 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 4: Obviously it's very early. They just put the helmets on 133 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: they're still getting used to having Nick Rolis's voice in 134 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: their ear with that green dot position. But still that's 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: going to be another competition. Where does Cody Simon and 136 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: a Keen Davis Gaither and MIKEL. Walker, where do they 137 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: fall into the mix? What about you, Danny, what do 138 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: you think? 139 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: You want to continue to see high energy and while 140 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: you're not seeing one on ones, you can still gather 141 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: a lot of how these players are absorbing information, especially 142 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the position rooms that have new coaches and the new 143 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: energy that's been brought in with the defensive line, with 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: the offensive line, with the linebackers, outside linebackers. So those 145 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: are things that I want to continue to keep an 146 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: eye on and also see if we're going to see 147 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: players early on in the off season maybe working with 148 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: multiple position rooms. There's a handful of players that we 149 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: saw last year where maybe they're working with both inside 150 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: linebackers and outside right cornerbacks and safeties. I want to 151 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: start keeping an eye on now that we saw what 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: we saw in Week one, are we going to see 153 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: any sort of different positions for Week two for certain players? 154 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: That's what's going to be interesting, especially in the cornerback 155 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: room with Sean Murphy Bunding being put on NFI for 156 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: the entire season, he's going to be out. You have 157 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: to wonder what that means for guys like that are 158 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: a little bit behind in the depth chart. And Denzel Burke, 159 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: the fifth round cornerback from Ohio State, how is he 160 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: gonna fight into the mix? So if there's a guy 161 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: like Keeth treu Klark, is he able to slide up 162 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: now the depth chart because of Sean Murphy Bunding's injury 163 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: in him being out for the entire season, what is 164 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: Garrett Williams? Is he going to remain in that slot 165 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: because there have been talks about moving him to outside. 166 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: I think you have one of the best nickel cornerbacks 167 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 168 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: There's zero reason to move them. 169 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: But we do know how much Jonathan Gannon and Nick 170 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: rollis to value that that spot. That is a starting 171 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: role in their eyes. And when you have one of 172 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: the NFL's best, and soon enough we'll you know, be 173 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: eligible for contract extension. And I'm sure hearing how highly 174 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: this coaching staff speaks of Garrett Williams. If he replicates 175 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: his first year and his second year's performance and even 176 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: improves beyond that, he will be a player that has 177 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: talked in the likes of Trey McBride at being the 178 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: up rachelon of their highest paid at their position. 179 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: Well, Williams has said and the coaching staff has as well, 180 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: that he can play inside and outside, has that experience. 181 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: We have mostly seen Williams play inside during his tenure 182 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: here in Arizona. He had a great year last year. 183 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus ranked him the third best cornerback in 184 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: the league. It is something that you would imagine is 185 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: going to be discussed. Not having Murphy bunting outside is 186 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: what is the best way to move forward. But when 187 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: you have someone who has been so good at their position, 188 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: are you really getting better just because he's capable of 189 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: playing outside, or are you still a better team if 190 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: you leave Williams as your nickel cornerback and you use 191 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: one of these pieces. Because they have put a lot 192 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: of capital, whether that's the draft or through money, whatever 193 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: they're doing into that secondary for this defense. 194 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: And I know a guy like Denzel Burke kind of 195 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: finds himself in that similar spot as Garret Williams, player 196 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: that mostly played on the outside in college and has 197 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 4: that ability to play on the outside, but could potentially 198 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: fit best as a nickel slot corner on the inside. 199 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: So I wonder when that first step chart is released, 200 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: and once again it's released by the Media Relations a department, 201 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: not necessarily through the Arizona Cardinals football club, but I'm 202 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: interested to see where they're more going to align a 203 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: guy like Denzel Burke. Is he going to be playing 204 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 4: most of his snaps on the inside during training camp 205 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: and during Phase three of OTA's and mandatory mini camp, 206 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: which will be coming up in a handful of days. 207 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: Those are the players that when we talk about the 208 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: intersectionality between the two positions, that's where I'm interested to 209 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: see a guy like Denzel Burke, keetro Clark, where are 210 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: they going to line up. 211 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Every position on defense has high competition, which is a 212 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: good thing, and that's what you want. That's what you 213 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: always want is iron sharpens iron. There's so much consistency 214 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: on this Cardinals offense, especially on the offensive coaching staff 215 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: like that side of the building as well. So when 216 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: you're looking at the defense, it is fun to go 217 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: position by position and talk about the competition, and cornerbacks 218 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: is certainly one of them. When you've got eleven players 219 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: in the room right now, and then you start to 220 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: talk about how that could all change numbers wise, because 221 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the depth and the talent in 222 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: the defensive line room, are the Cardinals going to carry 223 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: an extra D lineman this year? And if that's the case, 224 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: then you got to remove a number from somewhere else 225 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: on the roster. So if you feel really good about 226 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: who your secondary options are, are you able to carry 227 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: one less number there? So it's going to be a 228 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: numbers game where everything is going to be tied together. 229 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, the offense, you could start to kind of picture 230 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: who's going to be out there. I wrote an article 231 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: on asycardinals dot com about the continuity and how and 232 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: I tried to paint a picture of that first day 233 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 4: of practice at OTAs when all the media had their 234 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: paper rosters in their hand. Nobody was looking towards the 235 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: offensive side because everybody was familiar out there. You look 236 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 4: at the defensive side of the field, which is nearest 237 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: to us under the media tree, and you have everybody 238 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: checking their rosters. Who's number twenty seven? Okay, that is 239 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 4: a Keen Davis Gator who you brought in through free agency. 240 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: You're starting to picture, put numbers to faces to helmets 241 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: of the rookie class and who's ultimately out there, because 242 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: we know how heavily they invested in that side of 243 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 4: the ball through the draft. Look, at the end of 244 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: the day, there's gonna be so many things on the 245 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: offensive side of the ball where you kind of already 246 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: know where it's going to be going. On the defensive 247 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: side of the ball, it's a toss up because if 248 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: you do have an extra defensive alignment, well, what does 249 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: that mean for the outside linebacker room. You now have 250 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: guys like your fifth round talent from twenty twenty four, 251 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: Xavior Thomas. He's going to be competing, you know, for 252 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: a roster spot with a guy you brought in the 253 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 4: third round, which was his high school teammate in Jordan Birch, 254 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: And you start to you start to think about it. 255 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: In the secondary, Cardinals had four safeties because they had Rabbit, 256 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: they had Buddha, they had Jalen Thompson. You also had 257 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: Joey Blunt, who's a special team's ace. How is that 258 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: number going to fluctuate because typically you're only using JT 259 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: and Buddha out there. Do you need a fourth one? 260 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: But you know what Joey Blunt brings to the table. 261 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: There's so many different things that we should be very 262 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: thankful that we're not moniossup for it making these decisions 263 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: with head coach Johnathan Gannon. But at least for now, 264 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: it's fun to talk about. 265 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Just because things looked a certain way last year doesn't 266 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: mean they're going to necessarily look the same. I think 267 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: about that when you mentioned Josh Sweat coming in in 268 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: the outside linebackers room, that's a position that's relied heavily 269 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: on rotation. When you've got a player of Sweat's caliber 270 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: making the type of money he is, is he rotating 271 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: as much as the other players, or suddenly is the 272 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: opportunity for competition and reps dwindled to where you're mostly 273 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: competing for a spot opposite of Sweat. Things could look 274 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: very different this year for the Cardinals defense. 275 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: You know that Josh Sweat's going to be the number 276 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: one guy out on the field with your Cardinals defense 277 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: because you don't invest that kind of money into a 278 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: rotational piece. However, you also have to think about your 279 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: second round talent that's going to be coming out of 280 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 4: rehabbing from his ACL injury and Bijo Julari where does 281 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: he fall into the mix? First of all, when is 282 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: he going to be healthy enough to be returned to 283 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 4: the practice field. We did not see him during the 284 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: voluntary portion of OTAs. But where does he fall into 285 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: the thicket things with guys like Xavin Collins and Baron 286 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: Browning and once again a third round pick, and Jordan 287 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: Birch and Xavier Thomas who flashed quite a bit in 288 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, Nick Rolis has to feel like a 289 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: kid in the candy store, but also the one that's 290 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: really struggling to decide what that last piece of candy 291 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: He's ultimately going to end up picking, because you do 292 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: know Josh Wet's gonna be your number one guy. Outside 293 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: of that, with that rotation, what is that going to 294 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: end up looking like? 295 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: Sweat and o Jali two players that were not in 296 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: attendance at voluntary OTA's last week. Ojelari is rehabbing that 297 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: knee injury he suffered in training camp last year. We 298 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to talk to the head coach 299 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: since that one practice media was able to be at 300 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: last week. We will hear from JG Tuesday, so that's 301 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: going to be the opportunity to ask about the rehab process, 302 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: for somebody like o Jelari, to ask about the players 303 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: we saw working out on the side last week. Walter Nolan, 304 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: the third Ballall Nichols, right tackle, Jonah Williams. There's a 305 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: handful of players that are coming back from injury. Justin 306 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Jones is coming back from a triceps injury. He was 307 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: out on the field working out with the D line 308 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: last week. Who is a player that you have your 309 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: eye on that is coming back from injury that needs 310 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: to have assuming they are healthy right where we're not 311 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: here advocating the player is not ready to rush them back, 312 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: but a player that this team needs to have in 313 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: order to be successful in their position room they need 314 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: this player needs to have a good year. 315 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, what the first player that comes to mind is 316 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: b Joe Jlari. And maybe that's because I'm thinking of 317 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: this outside linebacker room because we haven't seen Josh Wett yet. 318 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: So you're thinking back to what it looked like in 319 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, and you knew that b Joe Jlari 320 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: was going to be competing for a starting role, and 321 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: if not a starting role, was going to play a 322 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: ton of snaps coming off the edge for the Arizona 323 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: Cardinals defense, and you didn't get that and you missed 324 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: that pass rush a little bit. That's what forced you 325 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: to bring in guys like Josh Wewett and invest heavily 326 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: in that position. So he's a player that comes to 327 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: mind in terms of one that will elevate the position 328 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: group as a whole. But I just keep coming back 329 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: to Justin Jones, and it's it's funny because ever since 330 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: they're opening press conference, I kind of pair Justin Jones 331 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: with Bolal Nichols because of the fact that they came 332 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: in together, two guys that were buddies. I believe it 333 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: was at the Senior Bowl and they built the connection 334 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: there and then developed a friendship and now they're both 335 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: teammates and unfortunately both ended up with injuries. But to 336 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: separate the two, Justin Jones was that defensive edge that 337 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: you needed, and you saw a little bit until he 338 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: had that triceps injury. He looked good when he was 339 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: out there. But now with how much you've invested in 340 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: the position, I don't think he's just a player that 341 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: could come back and elevate the room. But he's a 342 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: player that while that is the case, if he does 343 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: make the roster, that's who I think it'll be. 344 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: It's a player you still have questions around, is what 345 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: do you have in Jones and where does he fit 346 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: with the other pieces that have been brought in, not 347 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: only drafting Nolan, but Darius Robinson going into year two 348 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: and being healthy and he's put on a lot of muscle, 349 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: and just the mental side and the growth in that aspect. 350 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: You bring in Kalays Campbell, Dalvin Tomlinson. So where does 351 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Jones fit into this brand new defensive line? You bring 352 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: back LJ. Cawy, or you still have Dante Stills. There's 353 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot of question marks. So it is on Jones 354 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: absolutely to come and have a very good season. 355 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: And I'm not just putting this out there to cause 356 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: any controversy or rumors, but we know Nick Rolis's style 357 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: is a little bit more that three four base and 358 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: he does all these different formations and disguises and schemes 359 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: and everything like that. When you look at the depth 360 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: of that defensive line room, you have to wonder if 361 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: potentially they a little rely, a little bit more on 362 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: a four to three front so that they could get 363 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more pressure from their interior defensive lineman. 364 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if a scheme change like that were 365 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 4: to happen that benefits guys like Justin Jones and Baall 366 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: and Nichols if they do crack that fifty three, because 367 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: then you know that they're going to be out there. 368 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: But I don't know, Danny. It's funny because we're thinking 369 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: about players coming back from injury. Those are kind of 370 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: the two main guys. But I also wonder we spoke 371 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 4: a little bit about it on Fridays Covered Too with 372 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: Darren Irman about Trey Benson coming back from injury. He 373 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: had that injury towards the back end of the season, 374 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: just when he was starting to ramp up. What does 375 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: the second year running back look like behind James Connor. 376 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: That is a great question that leads me to the 377 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: player that comes to the forefront of my mind, right 378 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: tackle Jonah Williams. He got hurt Week one in Buffalo, 379 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: missed a significant amount of the season last year, came 380 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: back and then suffered another injury and wasn't able to 381 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: finish the season. First OTA's last week, he was working 382 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: out on the side with trainers. Where is he at 383 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: in his rehab process. It was it was like injury. 384 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: It was me right that he was suffering from near 385 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the end of the season. So where's Williams in his 386 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: rehab Jersey rehab process? That is someone you brought in 387 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: in the offseason last year to come and be your 388 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: right tackle. You moved Paris Johnson Junior from right to 389 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: left and then you don't have Williams, so you're relying 390 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: mostly on Calvin Beacham. And then when you had other 391 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: injuries right, you were having to rely on Jackson Barton. 392 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: Christian Jones got a few snaps as a rookie, where's 393 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Williams at and what can you expect from him health 394 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: wise and performance wise at the start of the season, 395 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Because that's going to have a trickle down effect of 396 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: who's going to be your backup right tackle. Is Jones 397 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: ready for that or are you going to keep beat them? 398 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then what about the other tackles? 399 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: And so it really is a trickle down effect of 400 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: where is Williams at and what can you expect from him? 401 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: It's funny, I don't think that there's a quarter of 402 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: football we as an on air staff talk about more 403 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: than that first quarter in the first game against the 404 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, because that was the first and only time 405 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 4: that every single player in the offensive line was fully healthy, 406 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: and Jonah Williams went down with that knee injury in 407 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: the last player of the first quarter, and then he 408 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 4: didn't come back into I believe it was after the 409 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: bye week when they played the Seattle Seahawks, and he 410 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 4: didn't really look like the Jonah Williams we saw from 411 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: the beginning. 412 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: He was struggling a little bit. 413 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: You know, you could attribute that to Russ, You could 414 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 4: attribute that to a handful of different things. But then 415 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: when that game against the Carolina Panthers came back around 416 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: and he injured himself again, you started to realize that 417 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 4: what was happening on the offensive line was more than, 418 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: you know, just that was more than just one injury. 419 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: You wanted to see what he was able to bring 420 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 4: out there, and you know, Kelvin Beacham did a great job, 421 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: which is why the Cardinals decided to bring him back. 422 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: Now he's entering year fourteen, if I'm not mistaken, so 423 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: beach has been around the block, you know, quite for 424 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: quite a long time. I do think that wherever Jonah 425 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: Williams is in his recovery process. You would obviously hope 426 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 4: that the number one player you brought in in that 427 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: free agency class of twenty twenty four was Jonah Williams. 428 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: You hope to see him out there playing and you know, 429 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: making the most of the money that the Cardinals ended 430 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: up spending on the right tackle. However, if he's not 431 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: healthy enough, you do know that you have Kelvin Beachum, 432 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: who is more than a quality backup tackle because on 433 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: a lot of other teams in the NFL he would 434 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: be a Day one starter. 435 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Something to give in mind to you when Williams came back. 436 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: By that point, right guard Hernandez was done for the 437 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: year and you were having rotation in that spot on 438 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: the right side between Tristan Cologne and Isaiah Adams as 439 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: a rookie. So that was also something to keep in 440 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: mind there. So when we're talking about the offense and 441 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: the offensive line and the run game, offensive coordinator drewspect 442 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: Drew Petson spoke with the media last week and one 443 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: of the few things he was talking about with the 444 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: quarterback with Kyler Murray was the run game. Not the 445 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: typical way we talk about the run game though it 446 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: was about rolling out. It was about how Murray uses 447 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: his legs in plays that are not designed for him 448 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: to run the ball right when he's just making the 449 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: call and he's going and he's out there and he's 450 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: playing football. So what did the offensive coordinator have to 451 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: say about those plays? 452 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: From the quarterback? He gave a really good breakdown of 453 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray's usage from inside the pocket versus outside the pocket, 454 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: on plays where is designed for him to be outside 455 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 4: the pocket, versus off schedule plays, And he said, to look, 456 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is as good as any when it comes 457 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: to being a player that rolls out of the pocket 458 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: and you know, has plays where it's off schedule. You 459 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: think back to that eighteen yard touchdown to Elijah Higgins 460 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 4: in the back of the end zone in Week two 461 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: against the Los Angeles Rams. Also that sixty yard touchdown 462 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: to Marvin Harrison Junior where Kyler scrambled out of the pocket, 463 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: was looking downfield and Marvin was starting to feel the 464 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 4: defense a little bit. Now was the first sign of 465 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: Marvin's potential as a wide receiver in the NFL where 466 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: he broke free off his route a little bit, Kyler 467 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: Murray found him, you know, down the field on that 468 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: crossing route that ultimately turned into that sixty yard touchdown. 469 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: But to break down the numbers, Tayo Mackie from az 470 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 4: Republic put down a breakdown of Kyler Murray's percentages and 471 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: his usage on straight dropbacks versus rollouts versus scrambles. On 472 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 4: straight dropbacks six point nine to seven yards per average. 473 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: So let's say seven yards per average, fifteen touchdowns, seven interceptions. 474 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: That's right around the standard of what you expect from 475 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: a quarterback on the draft backs on rollout plays. Now, 476 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: this is designed rollout plays ten point nine yards per average, 477 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: three touchdowns, one interceptions. Okay, when Kyler Murray's out of 478 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: the pocket, defenses have to move around a little bit 479 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 4: because he has that threat to break free and run 480 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: down the field if he so chooses. Now, what it 481 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: gets interesting is the scramble routes where it is off schedule. 482 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: This is Kyler Murray looking down the field. Five point 483 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 4: one to three yards per average, three touchdowns, three interceptions. 484 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: That's the high risk, high reward. When you have a 485 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: player that's moving outside the pocket as much as Kyler 486 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: Murray does, he has the ability to have that high risk, 487 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: high reward, the high risk and high reward component of it. 488 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: The reward is you see it touchdowns to Marvin Harrison 489 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: junior Elijah Higgins, but the interceptions is definitely what's a concern. 490 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: And Drew Petsy was talking about how they've been working 491 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: throughout the offseason on making those designed rollouts where Kyler's 492 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: numbers are significantly higher, making that more of a priority 493 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: to work on throughout the offseason versus just the off 494 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 4: scheduled off plays. 495 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: I love hearing that you don't ever want to find 496 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: a player, specifically your quarterback, in a position where they 497 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable, they don't feel prepared out there on 498 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: the field. So I like the fact that they are 499 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: practicing these off scheduled runs that way when those moments 500 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: arise during a game, because you know they will during 501 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: the season. Not only your quarterback, everyone around him feels prepared, 502 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: especially when you've got a QB who is as talented 503 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: with his legs as Murray is. From a timing standpoint, 504 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: from the blocking from the offensive line, from the route running, 505 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: and the timing from his receivers, everybody can be on 506 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: the same page. I like the fact that they are 507 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: practicing those specific plays. Last season, Murray had seventy eight 508 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: carries that was second only behind James Connor two thirty six. 509 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: Now Trey Benson only played thirteen games, he had sixty 510 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: three carries. Do you want to find a situation where 511 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: your QB, even as talented as he is, is still 512 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: running the ball second most on the team, or is 513 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: this a situation where the Cardinals run game was so 514 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: successful last year and you know you're gonna have your 515 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: one two punch in Connor and Benson. Is that something 516 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: that just a. 517 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 4: Little bit, I think that that's part of the balance 518 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: of a good offense because when the past game isn't working, 519 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: you go to the run game, and when the run 520 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: game isn't working, you try to utilize Kyler Murray's legs 521 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: to the best of his ability. And we know that 522 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 4: he is one of the most special players in the 523 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: league when it comes to those off scheduled plays and 524 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: having those Murray Magic kind of moments throughout the field. However, 525 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 4: when we talk about it, you can only work on 526 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: it so much during practices because those designed off schedule 527 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 4: plays are just Kyler Murray's instincts and natural ability taking over. 528 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: And I remember talking with Marvin Harrison Junior about it 529 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: during the regular season. I think it was after that 530 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: sixty yard touchdown, and I asked him, is this something 531 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: you're even able to practice? And he said, you could 532 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: practice it as much as you can. But when you 533 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 4: know when the defense, the Cardinals defense is going up 534 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 4: against the Cardinals offense, they know Kyler Murray's skill set 535 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: quite a bit. So those off scheduled plays, you can't 536 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: go after the quarterback because you have to keep a 537 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: distance from QB one, make sure he's not touched with 538 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: the reason why he wears a different color jersey than 539 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: every other player that's out on the field. So you 540 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: can only work on it as much. To go back 541 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: to your question, though, Danny, you don't. I think in 542 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: some cases you don't want your quarterback want to be 543 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: running back too. 544 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 3: In a lot of ways. Out on the. 545 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: Field, however, Kyler Murray's skill set puts him in a 546 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: different category than you know. I would say maybe twenty 547 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 4: seven twenty eight other quarterbacks in the NFL, so I 548 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: think seventy eight carries. It depends on what those seventy 549 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: eight carries look like. Is are those just read options 550 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: and he's running how much of those are from those 551 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: off scheduled plays. I think if you break it down 552 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: a little bit more, if Trey Benson was out on 553 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: the field, he would have probably exceeded Kyler Murray. But 554 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: still those seventy eight eighty snaps, and we know Kyler 555 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 4: Murray said he wants to run more this coming year. 556 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: At least that's something of focus for him. If that 557 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: is the case, that number is likely to go up. Yeah. 558 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's a good point. Is just with his skills 559 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: that it depends on the type of runs that we're 560 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: talking about here, and now going into your two you 561 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: can expect to see more of a balance between Connor 562 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: and Benson to keep them both healthy and keep a 563 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: defense on their toes a little more as well. 564 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 4: I think with Trey Benson too, And I touched on 565 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: this a little bit with Darren Erban. He was just 566 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 4: starting to get his footing in the league and he 567 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 4: was on Burns and Gambo last week and said it 568 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 4: wasn't until Week ten against the New York Jets when 569 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: he bounced off a couple of tackles that he kind 570 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 4: of had that realization that he does belong in the league. 571 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: And then you go into the bye week, and then 572 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: he played a few more games before he was dealing 573 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: with that that lower leg injury. If I'm not mistaken, 574 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: if that's what it was. So you have some hope 575 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: for what Trey Benson could actually end up looking like 576 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: as at RB two, that one two three punch, because 577 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: you have to you have to put Kyler Murray in 578 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 4: that rushing game category. It's dangerous. It's dangerous for opposing teams. 579 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: And if Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray can continue 580 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: to develop that connection and Trey McBride continues his emergence 581 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: this offense, I know Kyler said that they're just scratching 582 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: the surface of what they could end up becoming. This 583 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: is the offseason, and when we get to training camp 584 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: and we could see a little bit more and report 585 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: on a little bit more and start to put, you know, 586 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: paint the picture a little bit better, then we're going 587 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: to really be able to see how much Kaiwa's being 588 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: used in the run game and also how the passing 589 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: game has evolved and developed. 590 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: This is the time for the offense to take the 591 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: lid off. When you're breaking down these starters, the key 592 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: players on this offense individually where they are in their 593 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: professional careers. They are all hitting the peak. Right. You've 594 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: got McBride coming off a fantastic here. You've got MHJ 595 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: who's going into year or two, had a very good 596 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: first rookie season, has put on a lot of muscle, 597 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: has been working on the chemistry connection the timing of 598 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: his routes with his quarterback. You've got Murray going into 599 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: year seven. You still have some consistency on the offensive line, 600 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: and then this one two punch in the backfield we've 601 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: been talking about. When you put all these players together, 602 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: Now there is also that consistency, that consistency, and the 603 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: time where it's now because you've got the consistency from 604 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: the group, the consistency from your play caller, from the 605 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: coaching staff. So now you're able to add some new 606 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: detail to what this offense can do and make life 607 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: a little more difficult for a defense going into year 608 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: three with this coaching staff. 609 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: And that's where it goes into the continuity piece that 610 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: Drew Petsing was talking about, and in the article I 611 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: wrote about on Azycardinals dot Com was talking about Drew's 612 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: philosophy with if he could actually sense the benefits of 613 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: that continuity this early on in training camp and during OTAs, 614 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: because as we discussed Danny, you can't really see much, 615 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 4: can't really do much. The one on ones don't necessarily 616 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: happen like they're going to happen during training camp, and 617 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: Drew Patson said he could absolutely sense it because as 618 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: much as it's on the field, it's in the meeting 619 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 4: room where you could start to dive into details a 620 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: little bit more and you know, find wrinkles and nuances 621 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: that you otherwise might not have been able to during 622 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: the training camp when Marvin Harrison Junior are still getting 623 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: used to what it takes to be a pro in 624 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: the NFL. So you're gonna be able to see those 625 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: those wrinkles, I'm sure come Week one when they head 626 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: over to New Orleans to go play against the Saints. However, 627 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 4: I think you hit on the point the time is now, 628 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: and James Connor made the emphasize that he's not playing 629 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: forever and he's towards the tail end of his career. 630 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: He has a lot fewer. 631 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: Snaps than he started with during his time in Pittsburgh, 632 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: so you know, that James Connor, you have him, you know, 633 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 4: under contract for a handful more years. What does that 634 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: look like beyond twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, We 635 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: don't fully know. Which is exactly why. With Trey McBride 636 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: in his prime, Marvin Harrison Junior just starting to get 637 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: to that point of learning what it takes to be 638 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: an NFL wide receiver for and noticing how the game 639 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: has slowed down for him, there's no other option for this. 640 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: Team to compete in the playoffs. 641 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: And I know a lot of national experts are still 642 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: keeping the Cardinals in the basement. I have no idea why, 643 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: because I don't think that there is a team that 644 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: has improved in this much. Any team in the NFC 645 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: West has improved more than the Arizona Cardinals have. 646 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: I agree, And when you're looking at the changes, it's 647 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: been very positive players that have been brought in either 648 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: through the draft or through free agency. When you've got 649 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: other teams around the league that are losing big name 650 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: players that they are having to try to replace, or 651 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: having to change things, or having major coaching changes that 652 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals just aren't having to deal with this offseason, 653 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: and call us Homer's. 654 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: Call us whatever you will, call us employees. We are 655 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: employees of this organization. However, it's not just us. What's 656 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: mind boggling to me is you have Pro Football Focus 657 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: and a lot of these other media outlets giving A 658 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: plus grades to the Cardinals after free agency with the 659 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: additions of Josh Swed and then you're bringing guys like 660 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: Walter Nolan the third and Will Johnson, and the Cardinals 661 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: get eight plus grades again, but then they're still only 662 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: given you know, seven eight wins in the Vegas totals. 663 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't I don't get Vegas. I 664 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: don't know Vegas. 665 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: However, what I do know is that I believe this 666 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: Cardinals team is one that is on the rise. 667 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: And what we do know is OTAs start tomorrow Tuesday. 668 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: We will hear from head coach Jonathan Gannon at ten am, 669 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: so you can tune into that press conference as well. 670 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: We will have coverage, well podcast videos, articles covering this 671 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: week of OTA's practice, and Zach will be out there. Man, 672 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: you're welcome, Craig. We've just been crushing it. 673 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: When he comes back, I wonder if we get like 674 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: a gift. 675 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 1: Oh you think he got us a souvenir from not 676 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: but I would hope well, I mean it'd be tough. Now, 677 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: maybe he has to go back and get us something 678 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: for all of our hard work to cover for. 679 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: Him that that is the right thing to do. 680 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, It's like, it's what happened the veterans. You know 681 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: that you're going to be expecting, you know, the rookies 682 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: to pay a price. I know we discussed that last week. 683 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: We're not going to go further into that, but maybe 684 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: in this case, the veteran you know, gives the rookies 685 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: a gift. 686 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Just as excited as I am for Cardinals OTA's practice Tuesday, 687 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I am even more excited to see Craig on Wednesday. 688 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: But if he asked me if that's true, I will 689 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: say otherwise to his face. 690 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: So, but then we'll know how much he actually listened 691 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: to them. 692 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: This was all a trick. 693 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: Greg. 694 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you Cardinals fans. Thanks so much 695 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: for tuning into this edition of Cardinals cover two. For 696 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: Cody Fincher, Zach Gershman, I'm Danny Surreck. We'll catch you 697 00:31:52,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: next time right here on Cardinals Cover two