1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: s Aaron, what's up Elizabeth? You know it's ridiculous? Oh 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: my god? Do I the fact that I can't rent 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: more shoes? You know what I mean? Like you can 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: go to a bowling alley and rent shoes. I think 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I want to be able to go to 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: other places and rent shoes. Be like, can I get 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: those for the Do you want to put on a 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: pair of shoes that are already warm? I hadn't thought 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: of it that way. I don't really care about the 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: temperature inside of the shoe, although I'm more thinking it's 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: just like, you know, I just want to cut a 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: low cost investment that allows me to wear those shoes 14 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: around and nobody cares what I do with them, Like bowling. 15 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: No one it's like, hey, we are you taking those 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: bowling shoes? You can do whatever the hell you want 17 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the bowling shoes. You just bring it back here there 18 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: you go, Look a dollar fifty. I want that for 19 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: all kinds of shoes are a couple of bucks. The 20 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: nightmare scenario of putting your feet and bowling shoes and 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: they're still warm. Oh yeah, And I actually okay, full disclosure. 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I would steal bowling shoes from the bowling alley in 23 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: my hometown and then wear them back to that same 24 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: bowling alley and insist that they weren't from that bowling 25 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: alley because all bowling alley shoes look the same, and 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: they were like, are you kidding me? I had to 27 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: join a bowling league for work once, and I'm like, 28 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: the world's worth worst bowler. And I kind of then 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: play that up and do it on purpose and hoping 30 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: they would kick me out and I wouldn't have to 31 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: go anymore. But I insisted I bought my own shoes. 32 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: I don't wear other people's shoes, so you want to 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: wear other people's shoes. I don't look at it that way, 34 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Like it's not about the other people in their feet, 35 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: my feet getting together in a shoe space. It's more like, 36 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I just want to wear those shoes. How much I 37 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: got a dollar fifty? Can I wear those for like 38 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: two hours? She's all about me in my shoe experience. 39 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: That's all I'm looking at it. I don't care. There's 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: a lot of things I'm sharing, these ones that you 41 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: don't want to invest in, So like the shoes like 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: those Mexican cowboy dancing boots. Totally. I got five on those. 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: You'd rent those, I'd be like, yeah, can I get 44 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: those for like six hours? I got five bucks? Well, okay, 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: that's fine. Let you have that one. Something else. That's 46 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: pretty ridiculous as pants seeing someone down their pants, but 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: it's even more so if you're robbing them. Yes me, 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm Elizabeth Dutton. Not right over there is Daron Burnett. 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: And This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and 50 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: outrageous capers, heists and cons. It is always murder free 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: and ridiculous. I don't like wearing pants. Oh speak the truth, sister. 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: I long for a pants free lifestyle, but that and 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: that's one of the nice things about working from home. 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: You know you could be pants free. But I'm gonna 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: be honest. I do wear pants all day, but I 56 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: wear soft pants. I've heard that soft pants are really 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: really I make a distinction between soft pants and hard pants. 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: And there are levels of soft pants, sweatpants, pajama pants. 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't I'm a little bit further up the formal ladder, 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not wearing anything with like a zipper. I 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: was just about asked, what are the structural requirements for 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: soft pants? Like, I don't even quite know. Hard pants 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: have more hardware in them, and I'm like rivets and zippers. Yeah, okay, 64 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: so like jeans and slacks and chinas, and then they 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: also the fabrics harder. Okay, But what if I have 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: like a pair of like, you know, tuxedo pants. They're 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: pretty soft pants. There's a there's a button, some sort 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: of class. Okay, I'm with you. I agree with your 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: first statement that pantslessness is next to god listens. I well, 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: I wish I could lounge around with no pants on 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: all day, but I am so anxious. I feel like 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: something terrible would happen, Like the house would catch fire. 73 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: There'd be like a big earthquake, and I'd have to 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: run outside with just in my honey pants. That's bad. Yeah, 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: well that's I am terrified of being in public with 76 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: no pants on because people will see my, my, my. 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm not quite catching up here on this one. Are 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: you embarrassed by your knees? Like you're like, I can't 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: let anyone see. I like to be as fully covered 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: as possible. I don't want to be caught pants less 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: in public I don't want to be caught porky pig 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: in it. I don't want to shirts and no pants. 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: It's just my little rumpango. I don't want to be 84 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the idea of being nude in public? 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: What's wrong with forget it? I mean, like I understand, 86 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: like we need to public. Do you mean like at 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: like an A's game, or do you mean like across 88 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: the park outside of my home? So this doesn't This 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: doesn't scare you, like I can make myself sick thinking 90 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: about this. It doesn't scare you to be outside to streak. No, 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: I was known for streaking, like you asked people when 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I graduated, someone asked they believed because somebody streaked my graduating. 93 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm graduating from high school and in the ceremony you 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: can see me and still some brother streak. That was like, 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: oh is Aaron streaks is on graduation? That's amazing. I'm like, 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: oh man, that was Sully. Come on now. Anyway, I 97 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: streaked enough to be known. You just natural in the natural. 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: It was just kind of like a thing like me 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: and this dude Simon and a couple others. There's a 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: very small circle of us. We started like streaking when 101 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: I was in high school and everybody was like, oh, 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: you guys are wow, that's so nutreaking. We had a 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: party and we're like, yeah, let's do it. We just 104 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: drop trou and run out of the party and then 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: run around for a while and come back. Like how 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: it feels. It was like, you know, it was I 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: don't know, rebellious it was. And also it's free. I mean, like, yes, 108 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: if you're running around and you got like your you know, 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: bait and tackle between your legs, it does slap around 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, and that can be little painful if 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, uh, endowed in a way. But 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, you can want to just run 113 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: and it feels really natural with the air kidding all 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: of your body. Like it's a feeling I cannot recommend enough. 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: The only comparable thing is swimming, right, You're like, oh, 116 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I can feel all the water touching all of me. 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: It's like swimming through air, but you're running. Yeah, well, 118 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I swim in a jumpsuit. OK. Let's just let's just 119 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: say that you're a normal citizen and it's the nineteen 120 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: thirties and in New York you wouldn't want to be 121 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: caught without your pants on your place of business. I'm 122 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: not sure if I want to be caught nineties New York. 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Well there's that. So let's I'm gonna ask you just 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to picture it. I'm not going to put you in 125 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: this scene. I'm gonna just picture it as if you're this. 126 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: You're seeing it. Yeah, like an all knowing naked man. 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: You're perched on a window sill. Oh, yes, a couple 128 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: of floors, like a naked gargoyle. You are a naked gargoy. 129 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: You've been frozen by a wizard. Yes, yeah, so it's okay. 130 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: And the scene the Ludwig and Bowman Company furniture store 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. There's a few customers kind of lingering 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: around inside, and then three people enter the store, two women, 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: one man. Everyone's milling around. Um, the group kind of 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: sticks together. People are looking at chiffer robes, chesterfields, I 135 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: don't know what else, sort of chest or almar like 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: a wardrobe her I don't know what. They're looking at, mattresses. 137 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: The group sticks together, and then the other customers, you know, 138 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: they kind of finished and leave. And then one of 139 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: the women from the group, she's a real looker, long wavy, 140 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: dark hair, red lipsticks. She's wearing this signature leather trench 141 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: coat of hers. She goes up to the shopkeeper, Irving Cohen. 142 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah Cohen, asked, hey, can I help you? Pulls out 143 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: a gun, says empty your till right. He does as 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: he's told. He's quaking, and then the others are there, 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: will plan lookout. And the lady then says, give me 146 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: your watch, give me your valuables, and so he complies, 147 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: and then she's not done. She says, go to the 148 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: back room, and so the three people they march Irving 149 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: to the rear of the store, and she says, take 150 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: off your pants. Let's took a turn here. Irving complies, 151 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and so she takes his pants, tosses the pants to 152 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: the side. Just like that, they make a run for 153 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: it out the front door, and they disappear into a 154 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: busy street, gather up by the crowds. It was just 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: thinking that he couldn't chase them. Yeah, poor Irving. He 156 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: wants to give chase, but he's in his underpants. He fumbles, 157 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: and he gets dressed as quickly as possible. Too late late. 158 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: So their technique for stopping their victim from giving chase works. Yeah, 159 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: they're looking for people's modesty and fear of exposure to 160 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: keep them from getting pursued them. Gang's already gone. Gangs gone. 161 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: So a couple of some days later, Sydney Gallen, he's 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: manning his store at the Heat and Spring Company on 163 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: the other side of the Bronx. I have no idea 164 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: what the Heat and Spring Company was. I have tried 165 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: desperately to research this. I can't find it. I sell 166 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: fine coiled metal, sure mattress store. Yeah, oh, there you go, 167 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: mattress springs, springs. I don't know, box springs. He makes 168 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: the best. There's a big there's a big county of spring. 169 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: So Sydney is all alone in the shop or the 170 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: shore showroom or whatever it is. The three people walk 171 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: into women and a man. The gorgeous dame in the 172 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: leather trench coat, which goes up to Sydney, points a 173 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: gun at him. Give me all your money. Sydney gives 174 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: her a spring. I don't know. I don't know he 175 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: gave her the money. The group marches Sydney to the 176 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: back of the store. That pistol tote. Mama demands that 177 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: he takes off his pants, don't do it. He's modest. 178 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: He says, no, no, I gave you the money enough, 179 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: get out of here. And she yells, look, pal, I'm 180 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: shocked proof. Yeah, she seen it all. I wouldn't know 181 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: if someone said that to me. Okay, okay, And that 182 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: means let's just circle back around here. So you want 183 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: me to take my bank? You also water resistant, because 184 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm confused. So he's got the gun in his face, 185 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: He's like, fine, sheds his trousers once he's bare legged. 186 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: They scamper away, they run off. Sydney's left trying to 187 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: get his bridges back on or Sydney. A couple of 188 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: days after that is the door Cohen. He's working the 189 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: counter at is Delhi on St. Peter's Avenue in the Bronx. 190 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: In the Bronx, three people walk in, woman, woman, man? 191 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: So is it door? He like probably said like, hey, 192 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: would you like a taste of this cured meat? You 193 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of work the customers? Hey you want to slice 194 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: head cheese? No thanks, I'm trying to quit. And the 195 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: lady the trench coach, he whips out her gun, aims 196 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: at it. Poor is the door? And what does she do? 197 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: Demands the money from the register and maybe a couple 198 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: of spicy sausages. Throw that in there too. Can I 199 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: get a container of the macaroni salad while you're at it? 200 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: There is so as before they get all the loot, 201 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: go to the back of this door. Take off your pants? 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Is it? Door? Is like, no, straight up, no, take 203 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: them off? Nope, I have too much pride. I will 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: not take off my pants. So this really made the 205 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: leather trench coat lady mad supermatt. She goes over to 206 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: is a door and roughly removed his pants for him, 207 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: and then I will do it, young, I will denude you, 208 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: and so like I'm going to guess in one of 209 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: my invented details. And then she takes the pants and 210 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: marches to the front to the meat slicer and runs 211 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: them through and just but no, she probably just like 212 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: death stare. She probably just threw them to the side 213 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: and they run off. So the men each go to 214 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: the cops and tell their story day to day to 215 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: day together probably on their own. Happens there, Oh my god, 216 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: they got robbed. They make up police report. I didn't 217 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: know if they went together, yeah, well know. So they 218 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: each go individually after each episode how they make a 219 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: police report. These have to be stopped. These robberies getting crazy. 220 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: People are losing their pants, they're losing their money, they're 221 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: losing their sausages. It's terrible. So they said, you know, okay, 222 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: so what did the dame with the gun look like? 223 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: They ask, Well, you know what, she's pretty, they say, 224 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: that's how they're describing her. And she made you take 225 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: off your pants. Well, yes, most seems to be the 226 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: problem here. Cops like, you know what, we need to 227 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: catch this woman. Let's call her the pretty pants bandit. Wait, 228 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: they used the modifier of pretty for the pants, right, Okay, 229 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: so when you first read it, you think maybe her 230 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: pants are pretty. This is bandit who wears such pretty pants? 231 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: Look at those pants, kids, She is wearing like those 232 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: eighties wrestler pants, and they're like, she's ahead of her time. 233 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Look at Lady Mula and those pretty pants splattered. I 234 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: thought she wore pretty pants. And then I also hear 235 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: pretty pants, and I want to hear it like a 236 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: parrot pretty pants, And I kind of like out if 237 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: I were going to reimagine this, which is all I 238 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: ever do with these things, that she runs into the 239 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: store and yells pretty pants and then takes her pants off, 240 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: and she was stealing pants, not money, pretty pants. Yeah, 241 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: so those are some pretty pants. I'm gonna need those. 242 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Can I DIBs on your pretty box them? So why 243 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: was she making them drop trout? Well, as I said, 244 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: to keep him from chasing her. That's brilliant. I love that. 245 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: And they knew they weren't going to pull his erin 246 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: go trotting around with no pants. I am offended she'd 247 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: be called pulling ls erin my my apologies, I'm going 248 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: to guess that these guys were still wearing their underwear, 249 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know it was. Yeah, 250 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: the historical record isn't particularly clear, but I think that 251 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: from what I gathered, they still had their underclothes on. 252 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: But I the only way you can embarrass me by 253 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: taking my pants off is if my underwear was dirty. 254 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Have you got me down to nudity? I'm like cool, 255 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: but you like, in the meantime my underwear is dirty, 256 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: I'd be like, my mother is never going to live 257 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: down this shame. Why are you wearing dirty underwear? What? 258 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it for whatever reason, Like, say, they 259 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: scared me and like my pants exactly, like that would 260 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: be more embarrassed there at the meat slicer. And then 261 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: you feel your you feel your drawers and take off 262 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: your pants. No, no, trust me, no, no, no, just 263 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: we just burn them off. I had a little too too. 264 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, maybe they're unmentionables. Were unmentionable, who knows, 265 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: who knows? But I let's take a short break. We 266 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: come back. I'm going to tell you more about pretty 267 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: pants and panting ways. So the pretty pants bandit, the 268 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: pretty pants bandit. Yeah that's better. Yeah, she's a terror. 269 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: She hates pants. I can't stand him. She's going to 270 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: strike again. I want to see this movie. Yeah, well, 271 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: we'll make it Monday April. I was there. Thomas McMahon. 272 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: He's working in his butcher's shop on Willis Avenue in 273 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: the Bronx Great Shop in the district. He and his 274 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: brother own it together. His brother's name is Henry, So 275 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Thomas and Henry just a couple of blocks from the 276 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Harlem River to kind of orient you as to where 277 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: they are in the appreciate and Henry's in the back 278 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: doing back room stuff and Thomas is upfront working at 279 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: the counter. A beautiful woman in a leather trench coat 280 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: enters the books butcher shop, not the bookshop, the butcher's shop. Yeah, 281 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Thomas has no clue. Apparently, it's not like in the 282 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: grape Vine of all these merchants too. Yeah, they're not talking. 283 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: But she gets in by herself for this one. She 284 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: walks in alone, comes up to the counter and she says, 285 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: wrop me up a couple of pounds of beefsteak, right, 286 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: and she smiles at him and bats her eyelashes. Wrap 287 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: me up a couple of pounds of baef steak. So 288 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Thomas thinks that's Thomas weighs out the meat starts to 289 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: wrap it up all nice with heavy white paper twine. 290 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: Just then another man and a woman enter and they 291 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: stand on either side of the trench coat lady kind 292 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: of block the view from Like if you're outside on 293 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: the street and you look in, you're only going to 294 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: see three backs. You're not going to be able to 295 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: see Thomas at the counter block him out. Maybe they 296 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: all had giant shoulder pads on getting ready for their 297 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: comedy set in the eighties. I don't know. I go 298 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: on after e Lane Booze Lef. So they're crowded in there, 299 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: which is weird. You know. Thomas is like hello, personal 300 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: space people, He's not thinking about it. And then brother 301 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: Hank won't like Henry, get out here. This is weird. 302 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: So pretty pants bandit, Pretty pants bandit. She pulls out 303 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: two pistols, one in each hand and aims them at Thomas. Now, 304 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: I want to stop for a second and say that 305 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: in the old photos of her that I've found in 306 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: the paper, uh, it looks like her trench coat is 307 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: black and shiny. Okay. And she now pulls out sure, 308 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: but it's like not a like a dull leather, it's 309 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: not patent leather, but shiny leather in the pictures pulls 310 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: she's greasy. She pulls out two guns, stares down some dude. 311 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to say here is that I 312 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: think she was actually Trinity from the Matrix. Have you 313 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: seen those movies? No? Okay, that explains why you think that. 314 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Go on. I also am trying to say that I 315 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: think the Bronx is a glitch in the Matrix. I 316 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: think that you're onto something there. I'm gonna put together 317 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: as I'm gonna put together a power point on this, 318 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: and we'll go over it later so that you can 319 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: finally understand the matrix actually gave up on Queens because 320 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: it could not predict it with the algorithms, or like, 321 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: just let queens go, too badass, just a real Queens 322 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: in the matrix. Same with the Bronx. Don't touch it, 323 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: leave it alone. So anyway, Trinity, she draws double guns 324 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: on this guy, and here's what she says, put them 325 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: up and no, funny business. Are all sprinkling with these things. 326 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. I'm not making that 327 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: quota of it's just too cool. I couldn't come over 328 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: with funny business. Are all sprinkly with these things that 329 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: that needs to be in a rap song yesterday. Sprinkle me, 330 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: sprinkle me, sprinkle you with these things. Frinkly with these things. 331 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: That's her usual emo. She says, give me all the 332 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: cash in the store. She probably was like, don't forget 333 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: the beef steak I asked for, never forget the beef steady. 334 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: And apparently she get like super piste when she was 335 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: ordering these guys around and demanding the money. What did 336 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: this guy do something she's never been She was no, 337 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: but she in historically and all of her stick ups. 338 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: She's super mad. She tells the butcher, I'm gonna blow 339 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: your brains out. I was like, coming in nut wow, 340 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: went from beef steak to blow your brains. I mean, 341 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: you don't like my brains. One of her victims are 342 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: earlier victims, was interviewed and she said he said, she 343 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: snarled and spat like an angry jungle cat, and she 344 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: went about her work with a jungle fury, which fairly 345 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: terrorized People's really jungle focused happy on the jungle. Right. 346 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: He's been reading a lot of Tarzan comics at the time, 347 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: and he was reading a Tarzan comic when he got robbed, 348 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: and it's like an association in his memory, just like 349 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: it's so animalistic. And so you know, as I said, 350 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: I've seen pictures of her. I'm gonna put them on 351 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: the insta. But I like to take the quote about 352 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: her like jungle cat sense, and imagine that she looks 353 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: like Jocelyn Wildenstein, the lady who got all the plastic 354 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: surgery to make herself look like a cat. Oh yeah, 355 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: let's pretend that's what That's not what this lady looks like. 356 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's pretend, or we can pretend that her cat like 357 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: features are because she looks like Ron Perlman and Beauty 358 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: and the Piece. Okay, now you speaking my language, or 359 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: she looks like Ron Perlman and Sons of Anarchy. Also, 360 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm a kiddy cat run okay. So 361 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: for the club, always for the club. Don't worry. I 362 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: have a plan. So these are my invented details for you. 363 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: She demands the cash and the register, and she tells 364 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: Thomas to get into the rear of the story. You know, 365 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: the drill, you know where this is going. So as 366 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: she's walking to the back of the store, she puts 367 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: one of the guns back in her pocketbook and pulls 368 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: out a little folding compact mirror with the like powder 369 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: puff inside, and she opens it up and checks her lipstick. 370 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, she's probably feeling a little smug about like 371 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: how doper whole vibe was. She's like, I got this 372 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: shiny trench coat on my makeup. I really nailed it 373 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: this morning, like my cat. I Uh, what's it called eyeliner? 374 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: Maybe that's where the cat stuff comes from. She's all, oh, 375 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: severe eye makeup the whole like Cleopatra. Maybe she had whiskers, 376 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: she just had long, unfortunate facial hair really like really 377 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: thick and bristly, like cat's whiskers. That's how they identified it. Now, 378 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: So she pulls out her mirror and she's looking. She's like, 379 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm feeling cute, might rob later, so cute, and she's 380 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: focusing on her makeup and she doesn't notice all Henry, 381 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: the other McMahon brother, far corner of the back room, trembling, trembling. 382 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: But so he's trembling. She's like, you know, take off 383 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: your pants, big boy. Well I do up my face. Well, 384 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what she said. I don't have a 385 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: quote for that one, but she's vain. She's like, she's 386 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: got one hand with the gun out, the other hand 387 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: with the mirror. She's looking at herself, and then she 388 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: looks over at Thomas. Well, the problem is this big 389 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: miss step. And this is what the papers at the 390 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: time focused on, is that they said that when she 391 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: had the mirror, it was her feminine desire to look 392 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: her best in the eyes of the men confronting her guns. Right, 393 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: So the male, the male gaze was her downfall. She's like, 394 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: I gotta look good for these dudes if I'm going 395 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: to be sticking them up. I mean, I want them 396 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: to respect me but also be attracted to me. So 397 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: the gun is for respect, the makeup is for I 398 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: need validation. Wow, how hot am I like on a 399 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: one to tend? So Henry sees this bizarre scene with 400 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: the mirror and the gun, and she still got the gun. 401 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: So he just nopes out of there. And how does 402 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: he do it? Tiptoes over to an open window and 403 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: jumps out. Yeah, He's like jumps out and I like 404 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: to imagine there's a Wilhelm scream when he jumps out 405 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: the window. So, while Thomas is in the middle of 406 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: dropping trout, Henry Hall's asked down an alley and out 407 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: into the street. Just well he yeah, he has his 408 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: pants on, so he's like, I can go out in 409 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: the street. My brother, Thomas, no pants, look at me? 410 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Pants on, living good, living right, feeling fully fitted out. 411 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: He gets out into that like bustling thoroughfare. Right, so's 412 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: yelling for the cops. The lady bandit and her associates 413 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: here the commotion like, oh dag nabbit, there's someone else 414 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: was in here. And then I guess they maybe maybe 415 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: they heard him tumble out. He like jumps out the window, 416 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: you know, like splats in the road. I don't know 417 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: how I mean, I guess it wasn't a high window 418 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: because it's a butcher story. Just like walk right imaging 419 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: first floor window standing outside. Yeah, there's a splash. Okay, 420 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: I like that. You're doing good on that one. So 421 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: he they the bandits. They hear like, oh man, we 422 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: gotta make a break for it. At the same time, 423 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: neighbors heard Henry calling for help. They called the fuzz 424 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: and two police officers, Lester Levy and George Smith, they're 425 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: driving by car fifty four at that exact moment and 426 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: they hear the ap B and they're like, oh, this 427 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: is right here. So they go towards the butcher store 428 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: about two blocks away. Right, so they see this woman 429 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: in a trench coat just straight up sprinting down the street. 430 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: First rule, didn't you watch Godfather? You walk away? Walk away? 431 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: Be cool? Act like you know, everyone looks at the 432 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: person run. So the papers at the time they have 433 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: all these really reckless descriptions of the lady. So they 434 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: like stuff about her brown curls streaming in the wind 435 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: behind her as she ran. They call her a brown 436 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: eyed spitfire. Oh yeah, I call myself that. Well, yeah, 437 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: isn't that like your middle name when your driver's license. 438 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: The press loved her great content. She's Trinity from the 439 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: Clickable And so as she's running away, she's tailed by 440 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: a passer by yelling stop thief, which I just love that. 441 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Oh really, I'm over here shaking my head, pain in 442 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: the neck, innocent bystand mind your own no. But I'm thinking, like, 443 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: we don't do that and stop thief, because if you 444 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: did that, then the thief would turn around really probably 445 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: laugh too hard. Yeah, but like or nothing would happen. 446 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, so stop thief. And they'd also be talking 447 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: about someone who took their n f T s like 448 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: he's screenshot at man. Sorry he doesn't have anything. No, 449 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: you don't understand, he's got my digital image. Stop. So 450 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: I love that. Simpler times, Officer Levy jumps out of 451 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: the car ahead of the bandit and goes to stop her. 452 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: So they kind of cut her off in the car. 453 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: He jumps out running yeah, freeze. She stops and like curses, swears, 454 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: and then ducks into a doorway. And she also pulls 455 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: out one of her guns and aims it at the cop. Yeah, Levy, Levy. 456 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: If this happened today, Levy would be dressed like g 457 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: I Joe and he would to lit her up there 458 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: right on the spot. But no, No, Instead, Levy like 459 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: she's she's in the doorway, she pulls the gun out. 460 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: He jumps to the side to get out of range, 461 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: and she puts her arm forward out of the doorway 462 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: to like move and see where he went, and the 463 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: cop jumps on her and takes the gun from her hand. 464 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: Gun hand around the corner. I guess she was going 465 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: to see if maybe she could suddenly have the ability 466 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: to see through the barrel of the gun she had 467 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: like pistol the totally or she pulled out her compact 468 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: and held it up. Yeah, that would be cratty kind 469 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: of smart. Smart. So she gets arrested surprise, um. And 470 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: then also her accomplices. Who her accomplices? They were Miss 471 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: Betty Coker, Oh Betty, what's up? Bets? And Mr James Googliarmo. 472 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a gugliermo Okay, I think it's okay, 473 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: Google the g l together in Italian, you don't say 474 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: that gugliemo, Jimmy Googs, But I put your enough names. 475 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not judging her saying that. I would just say it. 476 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Apologies to the Gugliarmo families around the world. 477 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: I kind of feel sorry for Betty and James because 478 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: no one talks about how hot they were. Everyone's going 479 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: on about the lady of the trench code. Oh she's 480 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: a spitfire, she's a looker. Oh she had to check 481 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: her makeup. I bet you feel bad for Rob Kardashian too, No, 482 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: but like, what's poor Betty Man? She's like over here, 483 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: James is like, do you know how long it took 484 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: me to get my hair slicked back? Like I got 485 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: new grease today. I mean, this is this is a 486 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: new oil and nobody noticed this is scented oil too. 487 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm getting you on two levels here, people. 488 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 1: So they're just like another two other human beings with her. 489 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was a probably a woman, 490 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: but the one in the alright, was she really big? 491 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: You said, you've seen these pictures, Like, I'm just gonna 492 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: put it out there. There were different physical standards when 493 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: you get past like I don't know, nineteen yesterday and 494 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: it's just boom boom, boom. It gets weirder and weirder 495 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: every decade. Finally, by the time you're in the thirties, 496 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, so this is this is hot? Yeah? 497 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Is she like one of those where it's like she 498 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: could model like piano mover companies, Like, I don't know, 499 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: this is amazing. She's a rawny girl, big rad shoulders, 500 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like she does not she would 501 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: not be considered conventionally like shockingly beautiful. So she's not 502 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: like one of those aquiline types that the thirties people 503 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: might have like fetishized. She was much more of like 504 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: a street corner. She's pretty, and you're like, okay, yeah, 505 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: and she's I mean, I I think she's a good 506 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: looking woman, but she's not. If by today's standards she 507 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: can only she would be sort of frumpy. Let's be honest, 508 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: we have such a twisted version. I ignore it entirely. 509 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: I think some people are absolutely beautiful that people are 510 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: like really, I'm like, oh, completely, so I don't care 511 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: what the standards of beauty are these days. And think 512 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: about it, like if a lot of times people's attractiveness 513 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: is so tied to how they see themselves and carry themselves. 514 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: So she's got this confidence. She comes in She's like, 515 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: give me a beefsteak and drop pants and they're like, wow, whatever. 516 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: So I think that that's probably contributing to and she did. 517 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: She did, she had good style. I mean, growing up 518 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: in the South, this is how I learned about this 519 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: is growing by the South. There were a lot of 520 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: women who these days people call them big women, right, 521 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: But like those women, they carried themselves, they thought of 522 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: themselves as sexy. So I grew up seeing men just 523 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh man, she's amazing. So it was a 524 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: total disconnect between the TV and what I saw in reality. 525 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: So I've always recognized that it's it's like, you know, 526 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: this sexiness is an energy more than a physicality, right 527 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: when you see especially in the United States, because when 528 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about TV versus reality, we have TV shows 529 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: about oh, an ordinary like I'm just a paramedic or whatever, 530 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: and they no one looks like an ordinary person, Like 531 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: they're all just like tooled up and they're all just models. Yeah, 532 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: And then you watch commercial television shows from other parts 533 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: of the of the world, and people look like real 534 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: people and they're attractive and they're interesting in dynamic and 535 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: we kind of lose out because we want to play 536 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: with paper dolls in our visits. Whatever, let's take a break. 537 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. I'm going to reveal the identity 538 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: of this daring bandit when we come back, all right. So, 539 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: when we left off, pretty pants bandit was caught red 540 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: handed after sticking up a butcher's shop and trying to 541 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: leave its proprietor in a pantsless stupor, surrounded by sides 542 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: of beef and charts explaining the cuts of meat. She 543 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: was arrested taking a jail. Who was this mysterious spitfire? 544 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: I need to know more? She told the cops. Her 545 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: name was Marie Baker. I don't believe that years old. 546 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: As it turns out, the pistol pack and mama was 547 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: actually a oh mama. She had two kids, she'd been 548 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: married twice. She claimed that her kids lived with their father, 549 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: but she refused to identify the father at all. I 550 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't say who he was, where he was now old 551 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Betty or other gal. She's thirty years old. She's Marie's roommate. 552 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: She said she had no idea the robbery was being planned, 553 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: and apparently it was just along for the beefsteak ride. 554 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: I came here for the deli meats. She exactly. However, 555 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: all of the victims, not just Thomas and Henry, identified 556 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: her as being one of the other assailants. Yeah, I'm 557 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: saying that girl, come on now, she's trying to play 558 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: it out. Like you know, it's so frustrating when you 559 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: want to go furnish your shopping with your housemate, she 560 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: winds up robbing the place. Then you go with her 561 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: to get some springs, and then is this what you 562 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: just do? I just wanted to hit up the deli 563 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: with her first sandwich. All of a sudden we're in 564 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: another armed robbery. I'm telling you, girl, you need because 565 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: people would understand your paying. Betty's like, just want to 566 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: get meat. She suddenly stuck up the place. What am 567 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I supposed to do? Walk out with my beefsteak? Betty's 568 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: not Betty's not committed to her bit, and so I 569 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: think that's why she's not seen as an attractive one. 570 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Oh interesting. You know she's not saying, yeah I did 571 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: it and I'll do it again. Yeah, she's not coming 572 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: in hut, Yeah right, like it literally coming in hut. 573 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: What like coming in, I've never mind, okay. Um, basically, 574 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: Betty's got bad luck and bad life choices. Bad Betty. 575 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: The other guy, James says he's innocent. Marie said, I 576 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: don't even know who that guy is. He wasn't I 577 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: didn't bring coming to the store with him. But he's 578 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: got a really long record and he's identified not just 579 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: by the Butchers, but all the other victims. So he's 580 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: arrested too, and all of the victims who had reported 581 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: their pantsings to the police. They're brought down to make 582 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: statements and identify all of the purpose in the lineup, 583 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: and for a switch to make the purpose stick off 584 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: their ever, that would be amazing. So the press right 585 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: there loving this. They're trying to dig into her past 586 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: and they're able to find records from three years prior 587 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: when she was arrested for killing her sister in law, right, 588 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: but she was acquitted acquitted, So that's not our one 589 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: percent murder up in here. Yeah, I don't know what 590 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: happened to the sister in law. May she rest, but 591 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't on Betty according to the law. Well it's 592 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: it was We're murder adjacent right now, But I would 593 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: argue that maybe maybe they didn't find the right records. 594 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Either way, she was acquitted, basically not guilty. He who 595 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: does not feel me is not real to me, therefore 596 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't exist. So poof Vemus, etcetera, etcetera. As I 597 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: was saying, though, I'm not even sure the press had 598 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: the right lady. More on that in a second. You know, 599 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: like my bars, I feel like your bars. I was impressed. 600 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: I didn't expect them so. At her arraignment in front 601 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: of magistrate Michael A. Ford, just like Michael A. Fox. 602 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Did you know that's Michael J. Fox's real name. What 603 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox changed his middle name. Yeah, Michael A. Fox. 604 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: He changed his middle initial, not even his name. Well, 605 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: because Michael A. Fox was already like in the actress, 606 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: so he became Michael J. Fox. But he was like 607 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: Michael A. Fox, kind like Kermit the Stallion. So Michael A. Ford, 608 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: he was magistrate at the Morrisania Courts. It's a great name. 609 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: It's more. Sania Baker stands up to appear, but she 610 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: holds her hat in front of her face, kind of 611 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson about to just bust it out. Got 612 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: her hat in front of her face, and the judge says, 613 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: put down your hat. I want to see what you 614 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: look like. He's got the voice too. Well, here's my thing, right, 615 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: So I'm reading these and then every time I read 616 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: it over, I'm imagining it in a different line delivery. 617 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: So put down your hat. I want to see what 618 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: you look like. Let's do it the third delivery. This 619 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: time you haven't eaten lunch. Put down your hat. I 620 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: want to see what you look like. Good. That was good. 621 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: One more time, just like well no, so then she 622 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: baker right, she says, but I don't want my picture taken, 623 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: and she gestures over to the newspaper photographers in the courtroom. 624 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: She could also be like another line reading like she 625 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: could be mousey like I don't want me picture taking 626 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: or what I'm my favorite but just like from the 627 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: depths of Hell, and they're like whoa, Like here's this 628 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: like sultry gal walking up your They're like, okay, now 629 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: I see why you got them all to take their 630 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: pants off. You're terrifying. So she says she doesn't want 631 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: her picture take again, and it's like just pointing over 632 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: at all the photographers, and the judge says, you don't 633 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 1: deserve any consideration. Oh that's cold. Yeah, because he's like, look, 634 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: you're out here, you're robbing, taking men's pants from their muddies. 635 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: You've got your hat over your face like a clown. 636 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: Come on, pull it together, Betty. But she's not but 637 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve any consideration. That's just cold, judge. The whole 638 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: point is to be considered by them and to be right. 639 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: You're not guilty, yeah, until you're consider you not guilty. Okay, Yeah, 640 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: I'm just not in that court, not with Michael J. 641 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Fox up in there. So she gets she didn't establish 642 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: a collegial attitude in the courtroom. Then she did not. 643 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: She gets sentenced to three years in the clink. Yeah, 644 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: she didn't even carry a gun in these robberies. She did. No, 645 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: this isn't Betty. This is the central girl slipped up 646 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: and confused. No, it's Marie. So she the pretty pants bandit. 647 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: She's the one with the hat over the face. She's 648 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: the one who's like, no, don't take my picture. Oh 649 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: I was picturing that for Betty. Dude, you're telling me 650 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: Marie was the one cover in her face. That Marie 651 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: is the one pretty pants herself is the one saying 652 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: you get none of this pretty. Yeah, she's like, you 653 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: gotta pay for this, but she doesn't want yet and 654 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: don't don't put my picture. But the other thing too, 655 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: is that it's like, if she's not revealing a lot 656 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: about her past, what if the pictures get in the papers? 657 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: Don't look And part of that comes before it turns 658 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: out that her real name was likely Rose Duranti. Yes, 659 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: and Marie Baker was just an alias. I mean that 660 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: makes sense. But she's hanging out with like a couple 661 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: other Italians, like she's likely an immigrant or from you know, 662 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: but she uses the most like basic Marie Baker. So anyway, 663 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be identified too bad. Her pictures 664 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: in the paper all over the place, Um, but she 665 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: has this alias. I'm not or if the criminal records 666 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 1: for that acquittal that the press found were for Baker 667 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: or Durante. Mhmm. Yeah. And here's the other thing. I 668 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: don't know. If you you read a lot of old 669 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: paper archives stuff like I do newspapers, I'm a huge 670 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: newspapers dot com person. It's great for research and it's 671 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 1: also great for falling down rabbit holes while you're looking 672 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: something up and then one story over in the paper 673 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: exactly wild stuff. So, uh, what I've noted is that 674 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: they're not particularly kind and careful about last names, particularly 675 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: if they are not Anglo last names. So her, she 676 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: could have had all sorts of different spellings. It could 677 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: have been something close to Durranty, it could have been like, 678 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, other other spellings whatever. And you know, I've 679 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: been trying to figure out, like how these journalists traced it. 680 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: They're not answering my calls. No excuse, guys, but I 681 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: don't know how they're if you just go down to 682 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: the precinct and they're like, pull up this or the courthouse, 683 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: pull up these records, and here's how I think they 684 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: spell the name. Whatever. So she's in jail. She tells 685 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: the prison matrons that she robbed these places in order 686 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: to support her younger siblings, not her kids. Her stories 687 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: all over the place, siblings, kids, Baker, Duranti, Potato, Potato. 688 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: She does not have a healthy relationship with the truth. 689 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: She does not. She used to see a therapist. She 690 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: was not the most original gal either. Well, like about 691 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: five years before all of this hullabaloo, there was a 692 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: group of guys that were in Brooklyn holding up drug 693 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: stores and making pharmacists take off their pants. So I'm 694 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: thinking maybe she got a clue from that. They but 695 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: their thing is they'd go into these drug stores and 696 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: they'd make the pharmacists take their pants off, and then 697 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: they'd tie them in a really tight knotted the pharmacists 698 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: both the pants and they throw the hands on the 699 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: top shelf and then run away. So it wasn't like, oh, 700 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: I just got a fumble to get my pants off. 701 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: I gotta pull a step ladder over, I gotta climb 702 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: up now my pants are in a knot and dusty, 703 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: because it's way you know, come on, do you know 704 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: that you can if you're ever like drowning, you can. 705 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: You're wearing Levi's jeans or blue jeans tight with a 706 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: tight weave, and you can turn that into a flotation 707 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: device by tying the legs together, gather gathering some air 708 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: in the open waist, and then shoving that underwater and 709 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: the air will be held by the jeans. That's good 710 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: to know. Yeah, just in case, you know, you do 711 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: reminded me of tying the pants. It's like, you know, 712 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: that's actually helpful. Sometimes that's really good. Not just for 713 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: robbing farmers. Okay, but this brings us back around to 714 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: me wearing soft pants. I'm screwed. Yeah, exactly. This is 715 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. Soft pants aren't gonna 716 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: save you, girl. No, on all of my trips out 717 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: to the open ocean where I get capsized on my own. Yes, 718 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: I'm in a little you know. This is why I 719 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: wear miner's pants. Yeah, you wear those ones that are 720 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: made of like fire hose material. Yes, exactly. Always ready underwear, 721 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: always ready with the Kevlar andy pants. Have I told 722 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: you about my underpant's dream? No? You had an underpants stream? Yeah, 723 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: and I think it I might be for telling the future. 724 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: And that's why I like to tell people about it, 725 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: because if it comes true, then I am on record 726 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: as having foretold it. I had a dream. I was 727 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: in a store and I looked over and there was 728 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: a big display, you know, like those Haynes underwear where 729 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: it's like women's briefs, and they're like it's six in 730 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: a pack and it's wrapped in class. Let's pretend I 731 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: do right. You wear them all the time. So I'm 732 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: in the store and I look over and it's Dennis 733 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: Miller branded Tennis Miller branded women's Underheard, and it had 734 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: like a little picture and had a little picture of 735 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: him in the corner of the package and his signature 736 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: on Dennis Miller's signature brand. Yeah, but they were like 737 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: really ladies, but they were really like modest, like Granny panty. Yes, 738 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: the yeah cotton like blue, but a little bit shorter 739 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: Dennis Miller brand. And is it like also written as 740 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: Dennis Miller in cursive on like the butt, like you know, 741 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: like the old I don't know. I didn't in my 742 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: in my dream, I didn't open the package and inspect them. 743 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: I just noted it and was like, oh, that's interesting. 744 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: I need to get some of those. So I feel like, 745 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: if it happens, then Brandon is amazing, right, So if 746 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: it happens, come back, yeah, my business manager, I'm just 747 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: going to manifest it into the universe, because who doesn't 748 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: want the with like obscure references on the back of 749 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: the package or there's like instead of a tag, it's 750 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: like a fortune cookie thing with a weird Dennis Miller 751 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: obscure reference. Come on, come at me an idea machine, 752 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: especially in my sleep. Yeah, if you want underwear that 753 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: tells you about like I don't know, Roman chow chessqu 754 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: or so uh anyway, the chow Chess cue pants. So 755 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 1: these guys in the pharmacy though, aside from my Dennis 756 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: Miller pants come back around what I was talking about. 757 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: They try and keep up here, buddy, They pharmacy guys. 758 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: They realize they're passing up good pants by throwing them 759 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: up on the shelves, so they started stealing the pants 760 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 1: and the money and the drugs. Her waisting right here. Boys, 761 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. One of the guys, one of the 762 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: guys in that gang, his street name was Chick Baltimore. 763 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: That's a dope name, right, It's kind of amazing. I 764 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: really I legit like that Chick Baltimore. I'm not going 765 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: to tell you anything more about them because they were 766 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: really terrible people, Okay, but I would like unless maybe 767 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm terribly wrong about this, maybe Chick Baltimore is not 768 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: what I want. But could you imagine like a pool 769 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: cube with like a Chick Baltimore signature on it, like 770 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: a Chick Baltimore branded, kind of like your signature, Dennis Miller. 771 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: Dennis Miller and your pants and a chick Baltimore pool que. 772 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: I like this, Like where you're going with that? Um, 773 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: those up with the business ideas we're gonna you know, 774 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: we're an idea factory first and foremost here, I think 775 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: that's what we excel at. This is what I just 776 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: hope everyone understands that. This is what people are talking 777 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: about when they refer to the grind. This is what 778 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: this is it, this is whis is. We're making magic. 779 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: These guys are just a side note though, in the 780 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: tail of this beautiful wildcat who went guns blazon, handsless, lawless, free. 781 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: It was glorious while it landed, while it landed, well 782 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: it lasted. It was also glorious when it landed. The 783 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,439 Speaker 1: pants were glorious when they landed on the top shelf. 784 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: Just amazing, beautiful. Thank you so much for that. What's 785 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: your ridiculous takeaway here? My ridiculous takeaway is apparently my 786 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: love of nudity would protect me from larceny. Never saw 787 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: that coming. Yeah, if they came in and they're like, Saren, 788 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: give me all your money and then they take you, 789 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: make you take your pants and pants off, I'll take 790 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: my pants off, but I gotta keep my money. They're 791 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: like no. I'm like, okay, you can take my money, 792 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: but I got to take my pants off. Like sir, 793 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: you just confuse them, you baffle them, and then they 794 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: said they rob you and they leave and you stripped 795 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: down and chase them dudes, and I joined the gang 796 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: and all a sudden, I'm like, yeah, let's go take 797 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: more pants, Like, sir, please put some pants on. There's 798 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: so many pants out there for the taken. No. We 799 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: we would take other people's pants off. We don't. Just okay, 800 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: I'm waiting the gang guys. Here's what strikes me most 801 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: is that they were consistently citing the reason for not 802 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: chasing the bandits is that they weren't wearing pants, not 803 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: because she had a weapon. Yeah nothing, guns be damned. 804 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: I had no pants on. Someone might see. And she 805 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: gives off the vibe like she's not afraid to use 806 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: this blower on him, Like she's gonna just I'll ventilate 807 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: your son. What does she want sprinkle them? No, it's 808 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, I can't go down the street and a 809 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: superman under ruth. I don't know if they had those, 810 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so it's ridiculous. It's my kind of 811 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: ridiculous because like, I would not chase after someone if 812 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: I was just wearing ma Chonis unless it was life 813 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: or death. Like if someone took my nephew or my dog, Okay, 814 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: then I'll run after him pants okay, beneath. If they 815 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: take my money, whatever, I don't care. Okay, if I 816 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: don't have any any enjoy your two dollars someone else's 817 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: money that you were holding. I'll figure out a way 818 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: to pay them back. What if they took someone else's like, um, 819 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't know favorite Venus fly trap that they had 820 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: asked you to hold. It's irreplaceable. Sorry, you're like, sorry, 821 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: I ain't running. I'm just in my honeyes, I'm just 822 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: in my mind. I'm like, okay, are you trying to 823 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: think of all the ways that you can get me 824 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: to run down the street and just my underpants? No, 825 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: but now I've got a new game to play if 826 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: you like, lure me out new All right. That's it. 827 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: That's enough for us today. You the collective. 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