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You know, a standard room, 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: a lower dream, a nerf net, a garbage can, a 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: laundry basket, no, whatever you want to do, go nuts, 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: get creative. Here's how you officially enter. You must submit 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: your dunk from a public Twitter or Instagram account, include 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: your cash App cash tag. You have to tag both 64 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: at cash app at no dunks ink and use the 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: hashtag no dunks contests. You got to be following us 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram to be qualified at no Dunksinc. 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: And you have to be a resident of the USA 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: and at least eighteen years old. But shout out to 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the people still despite not being in America or not 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: eighteen sending in their videos about dunkink, We've still had 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: a laugh watching them. You unfortunately can't win the money, 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: but respect. 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 4: People who's dunk want other people to see them dunk right, 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: that's right, you know, just share it. 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: We uh, we gotta look back at last night's games, 76 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the big storylines. I know there's a juicy Drew holiday 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: rumor that we'll get into on todays show. But first 78 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of somber news. The NBA released a 79 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: brief update about former Commissioner David Stern. Quote. Stern remains 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: in serious condition following emergency surgery to address a sudden 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: brain hemorrhage on Thursday. He is receiving great care and 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: surrounded by his loved ones. The Stern family and everyone 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: at the NBA appreciate the incredible outpouring of support. Our 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers remain with David and his family. I 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to add thoughts and prayers are great. I'm 86 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: also gonna throw in some ironic booze for David Stern 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: because I believe that Stern's spinach. You know, like when 88 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: he was at the NBA Draft, that's when he was 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: really at his strongest, flourishing the booze. Writing down he 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: was like a Randler. Yeah, cup in his hand to 91 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: his ear, trying to egg on the crowd. So some 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: ironic booths were thrown in there, of course, with thoughts 93 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: and prayers. Get well Commissioner Stern. All right, Last night, 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: the Pacers snapped the Lakers road winning streak, pulled it 95 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: out in the end, one o five, one oh two. 96 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: I loved this game. It was great, back and forth 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: down the Strets had some controversial calls. He had brocked 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: in stepping up, but yeah, the Pacers got it done. 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: We thought it might be a trap game after the 100 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Bucks had their little trap game where they lost the 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: night prior, and then the Lakers lose this one, because 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: those two teams are gonna go head to head, the 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: Bucks and Lakers on Thursday night. But Pacers, I mean 104 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: all the credit in the world know, Anthony Davis for 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers, but still an impressive win. 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: But no Victor Oladipo for the Pacers. And can we 107 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: stop just saying trap game for the pace? Can we 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: just give the Pacers some respect? Why don't we just 109 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: say they're a good team? Why don't we say. 110 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: It nineteen to nine? 111 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: Now they're a very good team. And I know they 112 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: don't have a superstar, and we don't really annoint anyone 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: a superstar until they get to that level, until they 114 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 4: seem that way, until they've been putting up the numbers, 115 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: until it's NBA gospel. But about Sibonis is a star 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: in this league and he's leading a bunch of yeah, 117 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 4: very good players around him. And so we don't anoint 118 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: the Pacers because it got guys like TJ. Warren and 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: Miles Turner and Jeremy Lamb and Malcolm Brogden doing their thing. 120 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: But I think Sebotis you said it last year, you 121 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: put it up yesterday Trey on Twitter, that he should 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: be an All Star. Well, they have to have an 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 4: All Star, and it's probably got to beat Dematus Spodos. 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: I do think it's him. 125 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 5: He's incredibly watchable, for a guy who almost has a 126 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: men's league game right, Like, he's always in the right place, 127 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 5: he's always making the right decision. And I think a 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 5: lot of the reason that Malcolm Brognen has succeeded the 129 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: way he has is because he already has incredible chemistry 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 5: with Sabonis, Like on a pick and roll, on a 131 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: dribble handoff, they just both already know what they're doing, 132 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: which is pretty impressive. Less than thirty games into the season. 133 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: He was unstoppable last night inside and that's where you see, 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 5: uh the limitations that Dwight Howard has at this point 135 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: in his career. No Anthony Davis, but the Pacers went 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: out and took advantage of the hole in the middle 137 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: for the Lakers, and Sibonis was a huge reason for them. 138 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 6: It's so tough. He just feels like he never gets 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 6: pushed out of the way, and offensively, he just goes 140 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 6: up against whoever's in the pint there. 141 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's not as big or maybe as strong 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: as his dad or Vetus was. I mean that man 143 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: was a giant. Yeah, but he I guess he's not 144 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: as big. I should say he might be as strong, though, 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Guys bounce off him. Yeah, they really do. Uh, And 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: he had the twenty six to ten, had four assists. 147 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, I thought Miles Turner had had a pretty 148 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: good game at the center position as well. I thought 149 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: he looked a little bit better offensively. He had sixteen 150 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: seven and of the two blocks and the two steals, 151 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: and you're right, like so, Bonus was great throughout the game. 152 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: I thought Brogden won them the game though. I mean 153 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Brogden took over the game when they he was the 154 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: old depot. He turned into old depot. Yeah, you know, 155 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: seven points in the final three twenty let's call it. 156 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: He had that huge, gotta have it type of three 157 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: because the Lakers, I believe, are up five at that point. Yeah, 158 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: he hit that huge three when they were reeling a 159 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Then he hit that tough, little tear drop 160 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: floater from just outside the paint. Not an easy shot. 161 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Takes some fun. 162 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: Did you do themselves any favors? Dwight and Lebron missing 163 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 6: four three free throw I think Lebron infacted miss three 164 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 6: in a row down the street. 165 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: They were they were garbage at the line, but the 166 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: final one brogged and blowing by Dwight Howard got the io, 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: got the switch. Iowed him up, drives by him on 168 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the left. Okay, Dwight can still hang. He's going to 169 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: make a play on the ball at the rim, but 170 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Brogden sneak. He goes up and under using the rim 171 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: as sort of a protection against White and finished. I 172 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: mean those were to me. He just took over the game. 173 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: That's where they missed. That's where they missed Anthony Davis 174 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, on the defense, and he would be 175 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: the guy trailing Malcolm brock Day in scaring the poop 176 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: out of him a little bit as a defensive Player 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 4: of the Year candidate. But the Pacers are good and 178 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: de mats Bonis he came over in that trade from 179 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City. It's kind of easy to forget that he 180 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 4: was traded with Victor Oladipo for Paul George and now 181 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: he's in year four and he's blossoming I think into 182 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: the you know, a player that could be an All Star. 183 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: It's similar to what Victor Oladipo did. You know It 184 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: was a year five for Victor Oladipo, but became a superstar. 185 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: And remember the PACs were maybe going to trade him 186 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 6: until they agreed the contract just before the start of season. 187 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 6: There was certainly speculation that they were considering moving on 188 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 6: from him rather than extending, but they got him for 189 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 6: a bargain too. Yeah, I think I think that four 190 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 6: years in about eighty million, I think it was that 191 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 6: is going to I think that's a very very lucrative 192 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: contract for the paces that they're not paying him that 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 6: much because I know with him and Turner, there's there's 194 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: going to be some issues going forward whether or not 195 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 6: they'll keep both of those guys. Right now, I would 196 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 6: say Sabonus is clearly the front runner to state. I 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 6: don't think that's even any. 198 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Question no more. If they even do decide to try 199 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: and move one of them, it's going to be Turner. Yeah, 200 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: you're right with the contract, with how he looks, how 201 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: he continues to get better and better, is not going anywhere. 202 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: He's a gem for them, looks fun to play with, 203 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 5: Like if you're open, he's going to get you at 204 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 5: the ball. He's not just taking every single shot down there. 205 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: He's awesome. He's great to watch. 206 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: What did What did everybody think about a few couple 207 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: specific plays or calls or lack of calls or whatever 208 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: you want to say, the Rondo one where he very 209 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: very wisely saves it off of the off of a pacer, 210 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: but they won't go and look at it and say 211 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Rondo was actually on the ground while he was still 212 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: like tapping. He did like sort of a cool like 213 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: double sort of volleyball like tap off of the off 214 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: of the pacer. They overturned it, which I was, I 215 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: gotta be honest, pretty shocked by. 216 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have atoned if this clear conclusive evidence. I 217 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 6: didn't think it was clear inconclusive. 218 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: It was so bang bang, Yeah, you're right. I mean 219 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: if they had called it originally that it was, well, Rondo, 220 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: you were out, you're on the floor, okay, then they'd 221 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: probably just keep that one and no one would have 222 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: been on that upset. But you're right, I'm with you. 223 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: It's like they called it going the other way. They 224 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: were saying that was still going to be the Lakers ball, 225 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: and they did overturn it. 226 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: Rondo has very long fingers, and I think his fingers 227 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: were still on the ball from the one angle. The 228 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: one angle looked like, oh, there's no way they can 229 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: overturn this. Yeah. The other angle, I thought his fingers 230 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: are deafin on the ball. 231 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 6: It was. 232 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: It was bang back and it was It was a cool, 233 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: very high IQ play by Jon Rondo to be able 234 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: to do that because he didn't have the ball. I 235 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: was watching some of the replays and the ball was 236 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: like hanging mid air as they're doing the super slow 237 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: mot nobody's touching the ball, Like did he what did 238 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: he have the ball in his hands? It was just 239 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: like the ball was floating and then he tapped it. 240 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 6: It was. 241 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: It was a cool, really cool Rondo like move. 242 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: And then Rondo involved in the final really play for 243 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Uh down three, I have a chance to 244 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: tie it here, and the ball does not find its 245 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: way to Lebron, who struggled from three anyway in the game. 246 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: Didn't have a great game. And kudos to Brogg him 247 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: for some of the defense he plays on Lebron as well. 248 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: But Rondo, Jack's the three and he's been feeling it 249 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: from three this year. It was probably a little out 250 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: of his range. Wasn't that far off? Yeah, I was 251 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna say tough, though tough. Look, if you're like, I mean, 252 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: the ball's got a it's gotta go. 253 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 5: To I imagine that would have been Rondo's longest three 254 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 5: pointer of his career, at least in a half court setting. 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: But I don't know when the clock is ticking down 256 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: that I'm never really upset when a guy takes a 257 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: weird shot because he was open. 258 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean he was open. 259 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 5: It is Rondo shooting at thirty foot or no wonder, 260 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 5: he's open, But you got to get a shot up. 261 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: And maybe he doesn't know exactly as their five seconds 262 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: left is, they're three seconds left, He's thinking, I got 263 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 5: to get a three up somehow. It would have been 264 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 5: great to get into Lebron, but he had guys all 265 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 5: over him. There was guys standing in front of him. 266 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: He would have had even less time to get the 267 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: shot up. And he was broke from three last night. 268 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: So you miss, You'll learn. 269 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: Isn't that the time? Jon Rondo will make a shot though, 270 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: like time taking down. Just has that inateability just to 271 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: hit big plays, like he hit that game winner against 272 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: the Celtics. It was earlier this year last season. Yeah, 273 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: it was like he's just got that ability, you know. 274 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: It rattled man. That was close, and yeah, Lebron was 275 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: over last night from three. 276 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he bricked one, just prior to that, right, that 277 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: was the gross miss that he missed from the wing there, 278 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Trey Wingo I saw tweet the Lakers are shooting sixty 279 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: four point seven percently from the free throw line in 280 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter this season, the worst by any team 281 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: in any quarter, sixty four, and they shot four to 282 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: ten last night in that fourth quarter. It was Dwight 283 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: and Lebron miss and a lot. 284 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 6: I mean that could have cost in the game. Yeah, 285 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 6: you know, I think you know Dwight fair enough, he's 286 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 6: not a great free throw shoot it. But Lebron, you know, 287 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 6: i'd like to I think he missed three in a row. 288 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 6: That's that's pretty crucial down the stretch in a game 289 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 6: that was eventually decided by three points. 290 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: And sometimes his free throw routine changes, like it's changed 291 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 4: recently Lebron's. 292 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it changes all the time. 293 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but he was good earlier this year 294 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: and then it changed. 295 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, weird on there's place in the world that's right. 296 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually happy with this result, not just because 297 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: I was leaning with the Pacers in our who Boy, 298 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: which we'll get too later, but I like that it's 299 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: another another quality win from this Pacers team. You're right, tasked, 300 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: They're good. They are just a really good team. I 301 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: like that there. You got to include them in the 302 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: mix with all of these other Eastern Conference, you know, 303 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: teams for the most part of that upper tier. And 304 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: I like that we got Bucks and Lakers with identical 305 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: records come Thursday. I'm a fan of it is. I 306 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: like the symmetry. Twenty four and four also just a 307 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: fun record, perfect looking, so it was great. 308 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: I just love it. 309 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 6: Just fun to say one losing streak now, yeh, yeah, 310 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 6: that's right. That's right. 311 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: One of these teams is gonna be a losing streaky. 312 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: That's very very true. So yeah, good good win there 313 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: from Indy at Home. Dearon Fox Guys, made his return 314 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: for the Sacramento Kings last night. He looked alright. He 315 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: missed seventeen games. I actually come you by surprise. I 316 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: was like, damn, he did miss a good chunk of 317 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: time there with the left ankle sprain. I thought he 318 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: was saw a nineteen points eight assists. I played thirty 319 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: minutes despite supposedly being on a minutes restriction. But the 320 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Kings couldn't get over the Hornets. A bad loss. The 321 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Hornets maleigue Monk catching fire in the fourth quarter, because 322 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have a great game either, especially Graham and 323 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: rose Eer. But what did you do? What did you 324 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: think of what you saw from dearon Fox? And I 325 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: guess here the Kings now with Bagley back in the 326 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: mix as well, despite the loss, What do you think. 327 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: I'm a little surprise he didn't go straight into the 328 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 6: starting line up there for Luke Wall because players, you know, 329 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 6: younger players tend to go straight back into it. And 330 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: when he came out he shut the ball. Okay, but 331 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 6: he certainly wasn't looking as quick as we've known him 332 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 6: to be, so you know, he's taken a long time off. 333 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 6: But I guess he's just got to work himself into 334 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 6: game shape again. 335 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: But I thought he looked pretty good when he leaped 336 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: over a guy. 337 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I just didn't. 338 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: I jumped over golden ground there on the baseline. 339 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 6: You see a guy like him again, he's so young, 340 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 6: you expect that pace would just come immediately back to him. 341 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd looked he looked. 342 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 6: I didn't think he I just didn't. I didn't think 343 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 6: he looked as quick as as we've seen him. 344 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Myself but well, the Kings never looked quick because yeah, 345 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: play slow. 346 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: That's a big question. Honestly, they struggled out of the 347 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: gates last year. They were the fifth highest paced team 348 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: in the league. Darren Fox gets hurt. I thought their 349 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: season was over. I thought, you know, he ended up 350 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: missing seventeen games. They could have easily went like two 351 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: and fifteen in that time, but they didn't because they 352 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: started playing slow. They are now the slowest pace in 353 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: the league, thirtieth amongst all teams. And it's like last 354 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: year it felt like the entire reason the Kings were 355 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: winning was because they were playing so fast, kind of 356 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 5: catching teams off guard. And Fox was the main engine 357 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 5: for that since he's one of the fastest guys in 358 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 5: the league. But now they have been starting Corey Joseph 359 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: and playing so much slower taking. 360 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Care of the ball. What's going to happen here? 361 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 5: Are they going to start playing faster because that wasn't 362 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 5: working earlier in the season, but it worked last season, 363 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: and what's working now for them is playing slow. So 364 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 5: I guess it could be a weird fit, but I 365 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, you would think play fast. Fox 366 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: is fast. 367 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: You got to get some stops to play fast. Yes, yep, 368 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, no, it'll be interesting to see what they 369 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: do here. 370 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: They survive though, without Darren Fox for weeks, and I 371 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: know I didn't think that they were good. They're eighth 372 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. They're eighth in the Western Conference. They're 373 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: in the playoffs at twelve and fifteen. I know it's 374 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: not pretty, but I thought they'd be dead in the 375 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: water tray you mentioned. You said the same thing. I 376 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: thought they'd be done without Dearon Fox. But that's where 377 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: their depth really helped. And Corey Joseph has played in 378 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: playoff games before. He's just solid. And I guess that's 379 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: what you know, Luke Walton was thinking by bringing Darreon 380 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: Fox off the bench. Hey, things are working, you know, 381 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: fairly well with what we got here, and maybe they'll 382 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: be ready for a postseason if they do play a 383 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: little bit slower, you know, in that sort of setting, 384 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: if they do it a lot more often, you know, 385 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 4: they to me, I wouldn't have expected them to be 386 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: where they are. So I think they're they're fine. Can 387 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: I ask hold on before we because I don't want 388 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: to forget you said? He jumped over. 389 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: What did you call him Golden Graham. 390 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: Are you just calling him golden No? 391 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen people call him. I don't know man. 392 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: Instagram. 393 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: Instagram called him Golden Gram. 394 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, Instagram should be his nickname. Instantly hot. 395 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: I like it. He wasn't last night, Yeah, sure he was. 396 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: What was he last night? What's the worst vine? 397 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: I guess telegram? They're dead? I know what he used 398 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: to that telegram anymore. 399 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. 400 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: I'll be shocked that that doesn't make a comeback though, 401 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: the Telegram? Why not going to old school? 402 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's a good point. Cool. 403 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: The Kings were not going to win this game if 404 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: Buddy Heel is going four to twelve and then Barnes 405 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: is going six to seventeen. They shot brutal and Monk, 406 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: like I said, scored fourteen of season high twenty three 407 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. He was perfect in that last quarter. 408 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. I agree with you that the 409 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: Kings survived without Fox. But I'd like to also say 410 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: they had a pretty disappointing last week because they had 411 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: a really, really legit solid chance to get back to 412 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: five hundred when you looked at who they were playing 413 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: this was the easiest part of their schedule. They played Okay, see, 414 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: they played the Knicks, Golden State and then Charlotte, and 415 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: they had zero back to backs in that last week 416 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: with those four teams, and they went to and two. Okay, fine, 417 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you're right, not brutal, but also not great. I mean, 418 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: that's that's the easiest part. That they should not have 419 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: lost to the Knicks is basically what I'm getting at. 420 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: And nor should they have really lost to the Hornets, 421 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: even with Fox coming back. That's not that's it's fair 422 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: a lot of it. I'm not inspired by that week. 423 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, look they got all these guys back. Now, 424 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: Bagley is back there and Fox and your right trade like, 425 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: will they figure out playing a little different, Will they 426 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: lean into what was working there? We will see And 427 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: Luke Walton's got to figure that out. 428 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: That was the ugliest game I've ever watched. That one 429 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: was I've ever watched his extreme. 430 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: The happy Fox was back. He had a couple of highlights, 431 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: You're right, but it was it was no one could 432 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: hit a shot. It was pretty gross. Someone else came 433 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: back last night. DeAndre Eaton back from suspension. 434 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 435 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: He returned to the court after a twenty five game 436 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: suspension for violating the league's anti drug policy. He talked 437 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: about it too, he apologized again didn't really matter him 438 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: coming back. Clippers destroyed the Suns. I guess you can 439 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: talk about what you thought you saw from Eton still 440 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: hitting those mid range jumpers, knocking them down, and maybe 441 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the Clippers. And the fun thing from this game really 442 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: was the Kelly Junior versus Paul George. I guess dunk off, 443 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: stare off, what do you want. 444 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: To call it? 445 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: That was fun? 446 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure was. That wasn't much else to get too 447 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 6: excited about yes game, But I actually thought I was 448 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 6: looking quite good. He was moving pretty well out there, 449 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 6: he got straight back into the starting lap. And you 450 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 6: mentioned it's almost a Tim duncaness type of game, that 451 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 6: short mid rain. Again, obviously, I'm not comparing him to 452 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 6: Tim Duncan's overall guy. 453 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 5: Take another guy, then, Horace Grant. Okay, maybe like Horace Grant. 454 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 5: He looked like watching the nineties to be mid range jumpers, 455 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 5: offensive rebounds and tippins, and he had his plattop. So 456 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 5: it's like it all adds up to the nineties to me. 457 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, he was good. 458 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean there would be no reason for him to 459 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: not look good. He wasn't missing games because of an injury. 460 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: He was allowed to play and practice. 461 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 6: Still, I mean, he just should look good. 462 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: He's taking steroids. 463 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: How the body looked awesome. 464 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 4: It would be nice if he was a little bit 465 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: closer to the basket. That's what the Suns need. They 466 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: need buckets at the rim and don't do Horace Tim 467 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: do a little shacky. You get to get a little 468 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 4: tighter in. But yeah, he look fine. They need Devin 469 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: Booker obviously. Yeah, that's he's missed two games zero and two, 470 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: or he missed more than that. I think he's just 471 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: missed too. 472 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 6: He missed this was his third game. I think I 473 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 6: believe he played. He played in Mexico. 474 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh, here we go with the Mexican. 475 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 6: Well his that's Mexican. I think miss it's his mom dead. 476 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: Well, we saw him. He's missed three games. 477 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 6: Yea, he missed three games. 478 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: When we had him on for Summer League, his mother 479 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: was there because this was it was his first summer 480 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: He was still a teenager at the time. His mom 481 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: was there holding his phone ringside, but it feels like 482 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: a ring We were up there on that set. She 483 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: was there, she had that gold phone memory we asked about, 484 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: didn't we twenty four carrots in the air. It was shy, 485 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: It was glimmering from where she was standing. 486 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Do you is it fair to call that Kelly Ubred 487 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Junior versus PG like a dunk off? 488 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: Yes? 489 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: It was, yes? Why not, Well, Kelly Ubre dunked on 490 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: Paul George. George didn't dunk on. 491 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 6: Well, well, the funny thing. The funny thing was, though 492 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 6: Kelly Ubray made Paul George kind of dunk on. He 493 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 6: didn't need to get back and contest that shot, but 494 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 6: he did all that dunk and then. 495 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Like that that sort of trailing like semi challenge. I 496 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: don't ever consider that a dunk on a guy. I don't, Well, 497 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: it's not a dunk on it. 498 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 6: Uber could easily just let him dunk, but he got 499 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: there to contest it. He wanted to try to block it. Yeah, yeah, 500 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 6: that's what he was trying to do. 501 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: So you're counting it. 502 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 6: I'm counted. I'm counting. And because they had a nice 503 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 6: little battle this. 504 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Hey, I love that they let the two guys stare 505 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: at each other and nobody got called for a dumb tech. Yeah, 506 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: it's fine, Like I can't stand when they do that. 507 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, staring down is good. Fierce pointing always good. You 508 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: should at least should be able to go forehead to forehead. 509 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: You know, your buddy Grish, that guy loves to go 510 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 5: forehead to forehead every time you see him, he's putting 511 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: his big old forehead on your forehead. 512 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: If he can't go forehead to forehead with that guy, but. 513 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: It always looks good that kind of beef. H Kelly, 514 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: you Brado the clear winner. I mean he dropped dunked 515 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 5: on Paul George on a drop stuff that looked awesome. 516 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 5: Paul George had two dunks in this game, both of them. 517 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: I feel like he barely got the ball over the rim. 518 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's just not jumping one hundred percent, 519 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: but the hops don't look quite what. 520 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: They did earlier in his career. I mean he's older now. 521 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Of course you can still get up, but let's see it. 522 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: And cow I just took over this game too. He 523 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: is just I'm going to score now, and I'm gonna 524 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: get to my point, get to my spot either at 525 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: the rim. I'm a little jumper. He just went on 526 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: a stretch and Lou Williams caught fired there for a 527 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: second in this one too. Oh god, that was fun too. 528 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: He didn't have a great game overall, but well, he 529 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: had a minute or two there where of sweet Lou 530 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: NBA jam style. He was on fire. Issues were red 531 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: all right. Final one here from last night, the Jazz 532 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: rallied to beat the Magic. I thought they were gonna 533 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: lose this game. I really did. 534 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 2: This is why. 535 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to slip it in there. But Donovan 536 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: Mitchell had a huge dunk which sort of ignited the team. 537 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Him and Bogdanovich were money down the stretch, sort of 538 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: unstoppable down the stretch of the two of them, and 539 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: they both scored over thirty points. It became the first 540 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: Jazz duo to score thirty points. 541 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: Each in a game since Boozer and Darren. 542 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Correct Lee Ellis two thousand and eight, the last time 543 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: two Jazz players had done that in the game. But 544 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: they pulled it out against the Magic when it didn't 545 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: look good there they were down seven. I think it 546 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: was yeah. 547 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: We're up like eighteen at one point Jazz yeah yeah, 548 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: and then went a huge run. 549 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: I honestly did not think the Jazz were gonna win 550 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: this game. I thought we'd be maybe leading the show 551 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: with them with another brutal us, but they pulled it out. 552 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: Mitchell was great down the stretch too. 553 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 5: He We've talked a lot about how he can be 554 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 5: very up and down, but when he is up during 555 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, you can ride him to a victory. 556 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 5: So very good to see him coming out clutch. And 557 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 5: like you said, nice game for Bogdanovic. Thirty points, five rebounds, 558 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 5: five assists in the steel So that's a near five 559 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 5: by five four steel short, five blocks short, pretty close. 560 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: Very very close as they got that seven point win, 561 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: and Gobert was gobbling up the rebounds in that one 562 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: as well. Some fun games there on the Association last night. 563 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: But we've got a very juicy rumor to discuss. 564 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: There. 565 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: According to The New York Times Mark Stein, the Pelicans 566 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: are starting to think think about the trade market and 567 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: would be willing to move Drew Holiday. Furthermore, Stein reported 568 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: that the Pelicans are not interested in moving Jj Reddick, 569 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: nor Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram. You know, duh on 570 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: those last year hangon, yes, but Drew, but Drew, you know, 571 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: I guess the Holiday can be possibly had during the 572 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: holiday season here. If you make him an offer, they 573 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: can't refuse. But what do you think about this? I 574 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: know we've talked a little bit about Drew Holiday. I 575 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: think Trey you brought him up as one of maybe 576 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: your your dream sort of trade scenarios. That there's something 577 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: there with the Miami heat. I will say before we 578 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: get into it, though, Griff was on the broadcast last 579 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: night directly asked I like, the Griff gets out there, 580 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: He's like, here, come on, ask me the hard hitting questions. 581 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I believe it was Jen Hale asking him on the 582 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: sidelines there about this rumor which had just dropped earlier 583 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: in the day from Stein, I mean, obviously one of 584 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the best reporters in the game, and he said, come on, 585 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: this is what happens here around this time of the year, 586 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: December fifteenth, hits. All these guys can be traded. We've 587 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: been losing a ton of games. They lost another one 588 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: last night, thirteen straight losses for the Pelicans. This is 589 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: bound to happen, but there's no real truth to it. 590 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: What's Griffin doing there? You believe him? Or is this 591 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: something he's got to say? And I was working those 592 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: calls and taking the taking the calls from potential suitors. 593 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: I love griff on the mic. I think he is 594 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: great and he is a good spokesman for his team. 595 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: But I don't think you want to keep coming out 596 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: with things that are false that don't end up being true. 597 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 4: Like he came out for Anthony Davis and he said 598 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 4: we're going to keep him. As soon as he was 599 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: he was given the job there in New Orleans, we're 600 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: gonna keep him. It didn't happen. So I don't think 601 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: if this is the case where they aren't taking calls, 602 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: I think that would be a bad look if it 603 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 4: continuously happens that if they did end up trading him. 604 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: So I do believe him. I do think they're going 605 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: to keep Due around. Real young guys need leaders, and. 606 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Well they got JJ Redick. 607 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: I guess yeah. I mean you are like a good 608 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 4: or like you know this, Like, why would you if 609 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 4: you think you're gonna be good like they thought. I 610 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: just think they thought they were gonna be good this year, 611 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: yet it obviously didn't happen. It's not gonna happen because 612 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 4: you're probably gonna keep Zion out for I think the 613 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: entire year now that now that it's looking like that, 614 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: but especially with this bad record, So why not next 615 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: year have Drew Holliday as a leader on your team. 616 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: I don't. I just if you want to be good, 617 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: you keep them. If you want to rebuild for years 618 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: down the road, you don't. But Zion's gonna make you 619 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: good as soon as he comes back, So I would 620 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: I think they will keep him. 621 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess it makes sense that you would 622 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: move him because all those guys you said, Zion, brandon Ingram, 623 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Lonzo Jackson Hayes, Nikhil Alexander Walker, they're all young. They're 624 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: all any of those guys over twenty three. I mean, 625 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: they're all super young. Holiday is not. He's a great player, 626 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: but he doesn't fit the time. 627 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: One twenty nine. He's not a geebody. I mean, you 628 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: want veterans on your team, right, You're not gonna You're 629 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: not gonna line up those Jackson, Hayes and brandon Ingram 630 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: without a vet out there. I guess you'll have JJ Reddick. 631 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. 632 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: I don't see a problem with this position. 633 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Lean into getting another younger player, more draft assets, Okay, 634 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: I I think it makes sense, and I get why 635 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: Griff is gonna say this just like you did with Ad. 636 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: It's not gonna help you. It's not gonna help your 637 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: trade package that you're gonna get from other teams by 638 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: saying yep, we're moving them. I mean, this is obvious. 639 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: He's just gonna say no, we're not, and then you're 640 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: gonna ste keep taking those calls and hopefully the price 641 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: or whatever the value goes up and up and up. 642 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: But I maybe I think they should. I guess what 643 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting is I think they should consider it. Yeah, 644 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: he's got the right deal. 645 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 5: He should accept calls and probably not make calls. The 646 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 5: Pelicans already have four extra first round picks coming in 647 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: from all their trading with the Lakers, so they're in 648 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 5: a position where they could say, hey, wowas we would 649 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: like to keep Drew Holliday around. He's gonna be a 650 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: great veteran leader. He'll pair nicely with Zion when he 651 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: finally gets the chance. But if somebody wows them and says, hey, 652 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 5: we'll give you another two first round picks, how do 653 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 5: you say no to that? I mean, if it's the heat, 654 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 5: don't have a ton of picks to trade, but they've 655 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: got like a twenty twenty five pick. If they get 656 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 5: gar and Drags back, that's a veteran who could be around, 657 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 5: who would be a nice fit next to There are 658 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 5: packages out there, no doubt that could bring you back 659 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 5: a veteran, a young guy, and a pick for Drew Holliday, 660 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 5: who is a solid player with a couple more years 661 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 5: left on his deal. 662 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday to me, is like the point guard version 663 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: of Mark Gasol at last year's trade deadline. Okay, like 664 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: he is an underrated star player. Really he has some 665 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: playoff experience. There are both guys Gasol and Drew Holiday 666 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: like obviously move the ball, playing incredible team defense, like 667 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: they're low maintenance type of guys. And you know, Gasol 668 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: at the time when the Raptors traded for him, he 669 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: had the next year a player option for twenty five 670 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: million dollars, which he obviously exercise and still with Toronto 671 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: Drew one year more. I mean, he makes twenty six 672 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: million dollars next season and then he's got the PO 673 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: after that and it's twenty seven million. But similar, I think, 674 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: and what I mean is the right team that sees 675 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: like the opening and going Wow, we could maybe do 676 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: this we had another piece like that, like the Raps 677 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: with Gasol or maybe another team here with Drew Holiday. 678 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: You could go deep. You could go very deep. And 679 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean he's obviously just gonna bolster your team's chances 680 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: in a playoff series. 681 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if he's on the heat, Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, 682 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: that would be amazing for them. 683 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: What about what about some other packages here? Let me 684 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: throw them at you. You can, you can tell me. Yeah, okay, 685 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: let me give you and again yeah, you tell me 686 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: you hate it from both sides, love it for one team? Whatever? Okay, 687 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday going to the Wolves. Okay, so the Minnesota 688 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: Timberwolves need a point guard, want to get into the 689 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: damn playoffs, need somebody to pair with Karl, Anthony Towns 690 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: and Wiggins. Let's say for Drew Holiday, Jeff Tigue's expiring deal, 691 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: and then probably either one or two of like a 692 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Jarrett Culver, a Robert Covington, or like a Jake Layman. Again, 693 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe just one of those guys, pending on who 694 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: it is, maybe two of them, and then a first 695 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: round pick expiring deal with Jeff Teague and then a 696 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: wing obviously a young wing or a defensive wing and 697 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: coming like, what do you think? No way, Maybe may 698 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Drew doesn't do much for the Wolves. I'll throw it 699 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: out there, throw it right back in my face if 700 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: you want. 701 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 6: Well, definitely the Wolves I think want to move on 702 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 6: from Tigue, but because he's expiring, they're probably just going 703 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 6: to run the clock out on him. Anyway. 704 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: Would you rather, if you're the Wolves, have Drew Holiday. 705 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 6: Or D'Angelo Russell, Jude Drew, Drew, Drew j Ru Okay, yeah, 706 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 6: I think I'd rather have Drew. I think D'Angelo is good, 707 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 6: but I think Drew would be I know that uh uh, 708 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 6: what's his name? D'Angelo and Kyle Anthony Towns are friends, 709 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 6: but I think Drew would be a better fit there 710 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 6: beside him myself. 711 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 5: Certain ages though that would be the big thing is 712 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 5: that Russell definitely fits closer in the age gap with 713 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 5: Karl Anthony Towns and of course their best buds, So 714 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if that counts for anything. I mean, 715 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 5: Drew Holliday is no doubt a better player than D'Angelo Russell. 716 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: But that's the other thing. 717 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: Are you setting yourself back if you're the Timberwolves going 718 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 5: for another young guy, I don't know. 719 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: I also don't think that. I think Robert Covington. 720 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 5: Would be a waste on the Pelicans, Like that guy 721 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 5: should go to a team that's contending right now. They 722 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 5: don't need a guy who's a solid three and D 723 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: player who could help a real contender. 724 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess the problem with trading Drew is that 725 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: you're going to get back players, but you already got 726 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: a lot of players on the Pelicans that sort of 727 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: need time, right, like that need to need they need 728 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: to play. Ingram needs to play, Zion Williamson needs to play. 729 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 4: And then beyond that, I guess it's a question do 730 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: you believe in Lonzo Ball, you believe in Jackson Hayes, 731 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: Like there's there's just a lot of bodies that have 732 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 4: to play. So Robert Covington, I agree, doesn't really fit 733 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 4: the bill. Maybe Jered Culver, if you believe it he's 734 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: a breakout player. 735 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, Because you want if you're the Pelicans 736 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: in your griff and you are doing that, I hear 737 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: what you're exactly saying, task you're gonna just want I 738 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: think one guy that you're like is young enough that 739 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: could be sort of star potential and then a pick 740 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: or two, you know, a really good pick if you 741 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: can get it. And maybe we're talking to here, So 742 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: what about the Zach Low special. Nuggets acquired Drew Holiday 743 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: and let's say Julia locofor and the Pelicans get Gary Harri, 744 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: Malik Beasley and Wancho in a future first round pick. 745 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: So Gary Harris, yeah, as the uh sort of star 746 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: coming back. 747 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 4: I think you have to when you trade Drew, you 748 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: have to believe in Lonzo Ball being your point guard 749 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: of your future, right, Like do you well, why why 750 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: are you trading him? Then? Then then you're you're running 751 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: out Zion with Lonzo Ball and Gary Harris in your 752 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: back court, which is fine if you if Lonzo Ball 753 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: is gonna be good. I think that's that's an issue. 754 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: But I mean, Gary Harris kind of fits. He definitely 755 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: fits the timeline. He's good, He's how. 756 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 6: I think the Nuggets would do that. 757 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: You don't think the Nuggets would do. 758 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 6: I don't give up Gary Harris for Drew Holiday. 759 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: I think they would. 760 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 7: I think they would not with Jamal. Not with Jamal there, 761 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 7: they could play Togetherrew. Drew has shown that he can 762 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 7: play off the ball when the wrong Drew is great 763 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 7: off the ball when they played in that when they 764 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 7: won that playoff series against the Blazers, he was off 765 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 7: the ball with Rondo. They can play together. 766 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 6: I think I don't know. I don't know. I think 767 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 6: the night gets higher on on Gary Harrison that I've. 768 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: Got one more team that I actually haven't seen out 769 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: there much for the potential Drew Holiday sweepstakes, because it's 770 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: a lot of heat. It's a lot of Wolves, you know, 771 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: the Nuggets, Zach Low thrown out there, a couple other 772 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: teams that you see every once in a while, but 773 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the Pistons. The Pistons to me, if 774 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: they are keeping Blake and Drummond, if this is what 775 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: they're doing, then they need the third guy. They need 776 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: a third star, and you're not gonna be signing one, 777 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: I don't think. So you're gonna have to do it 778 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: through a trade. Is this enough to get Drew Holiday 779 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: to the Pistons? The Pelicans get Reggie Jackson and Langston Galloways, 780 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: both on expiring deals, so those guys are coming back, 781 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: so a lot of money there. And then Bruce Brown 782 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: and then a first round pick because the Pistons have 783 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: all their first round picks, I believe, so a good 784 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: first round pick or two. I guess look at it 785 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: from the Pistons getting Drew Holiday if possible. 786 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I'd love to have Drew Holliday on the Pistons. 787 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 5: And then I guess you would maybe find a taker 788 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 5: for Derrick Rose, try and get some more assets back 789 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 5: that way. I don't know, I mean, how much better 790 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 5: does that really make the Pistons though? It makes him 791 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: a playoff team. 792 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we've heard, we've heard their Pistons owner talk 793 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: about exactly now when. 794 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 5: That's almost their goal is just to be in the 795 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 5: playoffs and they have to really bust it to even 796 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 5: get there. 797 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, sure do it. 798 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 5: And then then you're not relying on Blake Griffin as much 799 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 5: to be an all NBA player. He's got a little 800 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: bit more help on the creative. 801 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 2: Side of things. 802 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 5: But I don't know, I don't know, it's just a 803 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 5: it's a very Pistons move to me. Hey, we're in 804 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 5: the playoffs again, we're out of the playoffs again. 805 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, just doesn't really excite me too much. I'm sorry, No, 806 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I think I think is a great player 807 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 6: I'd like to see him on a team where it's 808 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 6: like he could really see his impact come playoff time. Yeah, 809 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 6: I think the Pistons areheaded for first round. 810 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: The Pelicans have lost thirteen. 811 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 6: Games, that's the longest team. 812 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Is not that bad to lose thirteen games? 813 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: That is a weird part, not that bad, I guess 814 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 5: that's a good question to ask. Then, Drew Holliday has 815 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 5: been with the Pelicans since twenty thirteen. They've had an 816 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 5: over five hundred record twice, and that's playing alongside Anthony Davis, 817 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 5: who was in and out of the line up a 818 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 5: lot of the time while Drew has been there, and 819 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 5: Drew himself has been in and. 820 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: Out of the lineup. 821 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 5: But if he is this big of an impact player, 822 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 5: why has he not had more of an impact on 823 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 5: the Pelicans. 824 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't at his speak for several of those years. 825 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: He wasn't. He peaked in the playoffs two years ago. 826 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: And he needs to be a complimentary guy for sure, 827 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 4: like a three at the lowest, maybe a two. But yeah, 828 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: he needs to drop down a little bit. 829 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: Who just needs to play with Rondo again? 830 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: That what it is that work. 831 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 5: Maybe he does need to be off the ball even more. Yeah, 832 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 5: but I mean they have Lonzo. You could play him 833 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 5: off the ball quite a bit if you really wanted to. 834 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: The other whole thing with that David Griffin talking about 835 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: denying the report was and task you were alluding to it, 836 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: he says, Griff does that Zion's improving but still a 837 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: ways away. So you are you are beginning to sound 838 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: like you convinced that we may not see him, and 839 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: why would we, I guess is what your point is? 840 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 4: Well, when they're terrible, yeah, it's they don't look like 841 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 4: they're making the postseason. And they also it sure seems 842 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 4: like don't know what's going on with Zion Williamson, Like 843 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: you would gain more knowledge, get more info by setting 844 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 4: him out just having him there, like they don't know 845 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: what's going on with this body, And that's okay. I 846 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 4: think I think you slow play this baby. You can't 847 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: mess this up right, right, And so why the heck 848 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 4: would you throw him out there? 849 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: Pelicans also maybe got jobbed out of a potential win 850 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: last night to snap that streak. I don't know if 851 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: you saw the ending versus the Nets and regulation, they 852 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: forced a twenty four second you know, shock clock. The 853 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: ball got chucked up. It didn't even come close to 854 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: hitting the rim, but it wasn't called. I mean they 855 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: weren't given out. They weren't given time. The play continued 856 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: and they should have had Like a gentry was really pissed, 857 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: like after the game was like, yeah, it should have 858 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: had like basically three seconds, two and a half seconds. 859 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 4: It's when the coach shines. He could have drew up 860 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 4: a play. 861 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then then they went to overtime and and 862 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: lost to the Nets pretty handily in overtime. 863 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: But Gas thanks, Zion will be there this year. We'll 864 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 4: suit up. 865 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: I am I'm becoming more in more market fits. 866 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 6: We're not gonna say it didn't Griff say he wants 867 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 6: to get him at this so griffslied before we just talked. 868 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's at the eight week mark of injury. 869 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 4: It was supposed to be six to eight weeks. 870 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: I think it was. Maybe it was Zach Harper On 871 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: on the Dings say, I thought he summed it up. Well. 872 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: The idea of Zion coming back, you bring him back, 873 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: there's like it's not really a win win at all 874 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: for the for the Pelicans because you bring him back 875 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: and he gets hurt again. Let's say, oh, then you're 876 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: going to get destroyed as an organization if you don't 877 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: bring him back. No one's gonna care. Really, you're already 878 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: way out of the playoffs. That's not happening. No one's like. Honestly, 879 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to be like, what, you're 880 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: not bringing him back in February? What are you doing? 881 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: I just don't think that would truly be happening. I 882 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: don't think there'd be any I don't think it'd be 883 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: a lot of backlash. I don't want to pretend that 884 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, saying this for Pelicans fans, maybe 885 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: they think differently, but I think smart Pelicans fans will 886 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, just just take the whole year off 887 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: in red shirt and come back. 888 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 5: That does make for a long two seasons for the 889 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 5: Pelicans and Pelicans fans. Last year was the Anthony Davis drama. 890 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: Everybody very excited, you're getting Zion, Maybe we'll keep Anthony 891 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: Davis around WATA twosome and Anthony Davis then was traded 892 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 5: and then Zion was hurt, and now you're basically looking 893 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 5: at two seasons of not having your best player play 894 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 5: for your team. That's tough. I mean, maybe you just 895 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 5: throw him out there to throw the fans a bone. Say, look, 896 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 5: Zion's great. You're gonna see him a lot for the 897 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 5: rest of his career. 898 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,959 Speaker 2: Here's a little taste. 899 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and sell those tickets for next year. 900 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if he's healthy. I mean, I'd like to 901 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 4: see him play. From a personal perspective, it was two 902 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: months ago where I was excited about preseason basketball because 903 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 4: he was hammering rams. 904 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh hopefully. I mean, look, so you think he will 905 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: play in twenty twenty I assume at this point. 906 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I think I would luck to get him 907 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 6: out on the floor. 908 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 4: You've spoken to Griffin a couple of times. 909 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, already No, no, uh, tried to tried to get 910 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 6: a scoop too, but yeah, anyway, Yeah. 911 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 4: I also listened to The Daily ding Zach Harper and 912 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: Need and Lou had a great conversation. But it really 913 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 4: rivals our show, Like, are you gonna listen to No 914 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: Dunks and The Daily ding It's too much of It's 915 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: just too much, So don't listen to The Daily Dingy. 916 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 4: They were great. 917 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 5: Don't listen to any podcasts that aren't on the Athletic 918 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 5: listen to the Daily Dings when you're taking a shower 919 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 5: in the morning, and then listen to us at lunchtime. 920 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 4: H Harper and low were were great today and they 921 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 4: did bring up that point. Yeah, I just what is 922 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 4: the win other than selling tickets? That is a good point. 923 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 4: That is a very good point, because they they set 924 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 4: some records for this year, right, I think so, Yeah, 925 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 4: they won the draft, didn't they. There's the video of 926 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 4: the ticket office there exploding, right because they sold so 927 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: many tickets. 928 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 5: I was back when I was excited about ticket offices. 929 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 5: But I guess Drew Holliday will be the barometer for this. 930 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 5: If he gets traded, you can pretty much guarantee Zion's 931 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 5: not coming back. I would think if Zion is coming back, 932 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 5: I can see wanting to keep Drew around just so 933 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 5: that you know, Yeah, how the two of them fit 934 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 5: next to each other? 935 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And then then looked like we talked 936 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: about too. They say they're not trading Reddick, but I know, 937 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: you know a lot of teams are interested in trying 938 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: to acquire JJ Reddick and keep his playoff streak alive 939 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: and add him to your roster. Yeah, he calls for 940 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: him there's no fevers. 941 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 6: There's no point in him staying on the Pelicans this 942 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 6: season if they're nowhere near there's an asset to be 943 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 6: gained from him. 944 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: Right right, So decisions, decisions for your man, Griff. Why 945 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: don't you get him on the horn right now? 946 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 6: Come on, I'll send him a message, break. 947 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: The school, all right, let's get to tweet of the. 948 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: Night, tweet over night. Wow, what do you got lea? 949 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I've got a little something here. We'll see 950 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 6: how it goes. H One of the best, uh, one 951 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 6: of the best team websites is the Phoenix Suns. They 952 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 6: do great job social media wise. And last night there 953 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 6: was a play Ricky Rubio goes up missus a shot 954 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 6: and DeAndre Ayton clearly tips it in and the Sons 955 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 6: tweeked out Ayton with the assist. Well, Zenath of Chaos 956 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 6: wasn't happy with that. He said, that's a rebound, a 957 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 6: field goal attempt, a field goal made a two points. 958 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 6: There were zero assists in this video. Well, the Phoenix 959 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 6: Suns must have been hacked by John Schumann because they 960 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 6: came back and said, According to dictionary dot Com, assist 961 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 6: verb help in parentheses, someone typically by doing a share 962 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 6: of the work, so yes, we can actually say that. 963 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 6: Dictionary dot com chimed in and said happy to Well, 964 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 6: you know. 965 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: You said you said Rubio threw the shot up and 966 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: then he missed and then. 967 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 6: Just shipped it in. 968 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: Yes, and then so they were giving some a credit 969 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 1: of an assist to what you were saying. 970 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 6: Well, no, no, I think I think it was just 971 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 6: Ayton was assisting. 972 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh I got yeah, cleaning up the mess. Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay, 973 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: I was confused when you said that. 974 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 6: I was. Okay, it's a little cryptic, but you know 975 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 6: that's fun too cryptic. 976 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 5: Basketball is the only realm I guess hockey as well, 977 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 5: that you can't use assist in any other form. Assist 978 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 5: means one thing in basketball, So I'm with the guy 979 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 5: who got a son dot com. 980 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 6: Yeah. I will say though, that NBA accounts over all 981 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 6: their socials are great. There's not there's not a bad one. 982 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad someone had the balls to finally say, oh 983 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: my god. 984 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 6: I think I think so many teams do a wonderful 985 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 6: job with their social media hiring. 986 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: So you're saying you're good with them calling rebounds assists. 987 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that they're getting into the spirit. 988 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 6: They're having a bit of fun. That's all sons are great. Look, 989 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 6: what is an assist in the NBA? No one really knows. 990 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: Anyway, everybody knows it's not a rebound. 991 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: Do you think you could give us a not right here, 992 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: but maybe in the future, maybe twenty two twenty your 993 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: top five NBA social. 994 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 6: Media accounts on limited to five? 995 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, do I got do your top thirty, but 996 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: not hard. It's going to be the Knicks. 997 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: He's turned his back on them. 998 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 6: Well that, yeah, the Nicks time put the schools. 999 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 4: In their highlight clips. Yeah, they cut out the score 1000 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 4: bug and then score on the bottom. 1001 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: But that's actually brilliant. I think, I think that's hilarious. 1002 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 6: Wow, oh I have I have a tweet photo of 1003 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 6: like one of the two of their players helping up 1004 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 6: another one and they'll just say onto the next we 1005 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 6: lost play sixty again. 1006 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: But well, Nick's had a big win last night. Talk 1007 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: about it. Punk and the Hawks there. 1008 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 4: Sort of cutting out the score bug. That's a conscious 1009 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 4: decision because they could just get highlights without the score 1010 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: bug on it, Like we see highlights. There's no score 1011 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 4: on their melt footage. Yeah, we all got the melts. 1012 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: It's easier probably to do what they're doing, isn't it? 1013 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: Cut it out when. 1014 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: You when you see uh, when you're at a game 1015 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 4: and you see the footage on the jumbo tron, there's 1016 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 4: no score on it. They have access to it. It's 1017 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 4: not that farn but they're showing yet. It's not a 1018 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 4: big deal, but they're showing us that they're cutting out 1019 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 4: the score because they're a great Twitter account. Don't lump 1020 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 4: them in with the ownership. 1021 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: Twenty seventh on my list, who would be? You'd have 1022 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: the Sons near the top. I think you'd have the 1023 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: Kings near the top. I think you'd have the Hawks 1024 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: near the top. 1025 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, the hooks right, the jazz Blazes doing excellent. Okay, 1026 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 6: it's not the music. 1027 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: We were done. We're done, but forget it all right, 1028 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: let's get to pick and results. 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No Anthony Davis, 1062 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: of course, and the Pacers got the job done. Not 1063 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: only did they cover, they won the damn game. So 1064 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: that is a win for Tass and I as we 1065 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: had Indie Train, Lee had the Lakers on the road 1066 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: to cover. Here's our records. It's getting a little interesting here, 1067 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: Lee eight and four for the month of December, Task 1068 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: Strong seven and five, and then we have Tran and 1069 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: I now tied at five and seven. Why don't we 1070 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: do this because whoever finishes in last place for the 1071 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: month has got to pay it off. Snowball fight, Yeah, 1072 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 1: snowball right to the eye. 1073 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 5: I was thinking about pulling a Doctor Manhattan down here 1074 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 5: at Decatur Square. 1075 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: We gotta get naked pay exactly right. We'll come up 1076 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: with something. Well, we'll have some fun on social media. 1077 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure whoever has to pay it off, But we 1078 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: got a race here test not out of the woodwork, 1079 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 1: even we really not out of the woodwork yet. Crazy 1080 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: things have happened before. But tonight's game, what do we got? 1081 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 4: Nine? Game night in the Association, Boston visiting Dallas. Dallas 1082 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 4: coming off that win against the Milwaukee Bucks on Monday, 1083 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 4: snapping their eighteen game streak, and Boston they had beaten 1084 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 4: Dallas before. I wanted to check that out when they 1085 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 4: were streaking earlier this season, they had won ten in 1086 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 4: a row. They beat Boston at home, So this one 1087 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 4: on the road. They're favored by two and a half 1088 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 4: on the road in Dallas, Essentially, I pick. What do 1089 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 4: you think? What do you think? What do you think? 1090 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: Celtics favored by two and a half on. 1091 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 2: The road right in a row. Yeah, they haven't played 1092 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: since last Thursday. Yeah, do they even remember what basketball is? 1093 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: That's a weird gap. 1094 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 5: You're right, Holy five days off, Holy legs should be good. 1095 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 5: But I think Dallas can win. I do think they 1096 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 5: could win. So I'll take the Mavericks. 1097 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Celtics. I like that rest. I'm 1098 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna snap that little losing street they got 1099 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: going and win by three or more. 1100 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 6: I guess. 1101 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 4: Give me. 1102 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 6: All right, you got this? 1103 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: I got the Sorry, okay, test us the Celtics who 1104 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't the least say I did. He's got the dolls. 1105 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 4: Right now, so you can't talk perfect. 1106 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 2: Timing, all right, keep them tight for the end of 1107 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: this podcast. 1108 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: What did you just say there? 1109 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 6: Let's say give me the d all right. 1110 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: See you on No dunks out of context a little 1111 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: bit later on Twitter. That's it for us here today, 1112 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: guys on our Wednesday. As Test said, lots of games 1113 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: on tonight, so we'll be breaking them down on Thursday's 1114 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: Daily Show. We also have another bonus podcast a little 1115 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: later today here on Wednesday, keep your Eyes and your 1116 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: Ears on our podcast feed. It's a one on one interview, well, 1117 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: five on one interview. I don't know why we call 1118 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: it one on one. It's five guys talking to one, 1119 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 1: but I love it. With comedian a Mere Blumenfeld from 1120 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: Jaking Emir Fame, we will be talking to a mirror 1121 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: about his Lakers fandom. 1122 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 6: Uh. 1123 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: Working with Rick Fox in the past at College Humor. 1124 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: We'll have some fun with a Mere Bloomingfelt again. That 1125 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: podcast later today on Wednesday. Beach Stepping Up Yesterday. Oh 1126 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: man back to back jacks on back to back days. 1127 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: Baby wow, has it ever been done before? 1128 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: Probably by us, Yeah, by us for sure. So check 1129 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: those out and we will see them. 1130 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up, 1131 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 2: love you guys awesome. 1132 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 4: Thanks for showings, folks. I remember, no dunks, no dinks, 1133 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 4: and with the amount of shows that we're doing, a 1134 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 4: lot of dearth, not a lot of dearth starts to. 1135 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: Embrace the. 1136 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 4: You could stay every day my dad be happy and remaining. 1137 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: It's been so long that your mana ways. 1138 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,399 Speaker 4: Already. It's gonna be great. 1139 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: Mea