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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds, and Ray Dalyio says, the AI bubble

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<v Speaker 1>is reaching great depression territory. We have such a great

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<v Speaker 1>show for you today, the Jim Agosta Shows. Jim Agosta

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<v Speaker 1>stops by to talk about Republican Congressman Max Miller as

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<v Speaker 1>the albatross hanging over the GOP's head. Then we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to former Justice Department employee and the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Connection, Stacy Young, about how dangerous it is to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm Todd Blanche as Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 2>But first the news, Smiley, we are having the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>move ahead on a bill that would avert a government

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<v Speaker 2>shut down. And I think it's a very interesting thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>The base seems to say shut it the fuck down,

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<v Speaker 2>and as always, leadership is not doing with the base wants.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you seeing here? I'm kind of perplexed, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being.

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<v Speaker 1>Honest, Scatin emboldened Jesse Cannon because his party. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Kidding my party. What's my party? Well, you know by

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<v Speaker 2>wig of the party.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I'm teasing you. I'm teasing you you're a wing

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<v Speaker 1>of the party. Okay, the wide bobs, that's right. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal. This is another reconciliation to keep the government open,

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<v Speaker 1>another stop gap spending bill. That's because Republicans cannot get

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<v Speaker 1>their shit together to legislate, and so we're just stop

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<v Speaker 1>gap to stop gap to stop gap. You'll remember that

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency and

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<v Speaker 1>they shut down the government they could not agree on

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<v Speaker 1>DHS and they had the longest government shut down ever

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<v Speaker 1>for DHS. And they did that because they are ideologically

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<v Speaker 1>completely at sea. They have one thing that they all

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<v Speaker 1>believe in, and that's Fieldy to dealer leader. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got a quote here from the leader of the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate Minority leader, that is very much like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing we see from him. For months, Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>have been clear, we want to fund the government. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why advert a shutdown again? Why and pass

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<v Speaker 1>strong bipartisan appropriations bills that improve people's lives. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that this administration wants to improve people's lives?

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<v Speaker 3>I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Democrats want the base wants them to obstruct, and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. So Senator Patty Murray of Washington, the

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<v Speaker 1>top Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, said, enabling this rule,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically the rule is that would allow the administration

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel grants based on the recipients if they do

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<v Speaker 1>not conform to President Trump's political views. I swear to god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something are trying to do. Okay, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel grants. These are grants like you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>grant to study the Osprey is Donald Trump doesn't like ospres,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's canceled a grant to study. These are like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your tax dollars going to science, except science

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<v Speaker 1>Trump doesn't like, then he can cancel it. So enabling

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<v Speaker 1>this rule, according to Patty Murray, would give Trump the

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<v Speaker 1>green light to take even more federal funding hostage. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>she's right. So it is just a complete fucking disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>This crew cannot fucking shoot straight. And here we are

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<v Speaker 1>in just nightmare fuel scenario, and there we go. The

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<v Speaker 1>legislation they do is insane and bad. Legislation they don't

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<v Speaker 1>do is insane and bad. It is a just a

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<v Speaker 1>complete fuckery over there. And they're all trying to just

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<v Speaker 1>pass the stop gap so they can go home for August.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're in that news cycle where we keep finding

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<v Speaker 2>out more and more that the DNC is a shit

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<v Speaker 2>show for lack of a better word, And there's this

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<v Speaker 2>unreleased chapter from the autopsy report that took them forever

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<v Speaker 2>to come out, and it has people.

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<v Speaker 1>Going, what So if you or I wrote the autopsy

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty twenty four cycle, it might say a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the things that we're in this missing chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically I want to pause for a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>just explain how we got here. Ken Martin, through Paul

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<v Speaker 1>rivera under the bus. Paul rivera longtime Democratic consultant, is

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<v Speaker 1>hired by the DNC to write this autopsy. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not released by the DNC. By Ken Martin, he decides

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<v Speaker 1>not to release it. He gives a number of reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why never a good sign to give a number of

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why. Now the guy who wrote the autopsy is

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<v Speaker 1>pissed because he looks terrible and he basically, remember Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Martin said the autopsy wasn't well written, it was I

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<v Speaker 1>am maturish. So the guy who has been being maligned

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<v Speaker 1>now is ready. He's coming back and he's defending himself,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I just want to pause and say all

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<v Speaker 1>of this could have been avoided, right. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>released the autopsy. You could have released some of the autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have Bill barred it and just done a

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<v Speaker 1>top line on the autopsy because nobody would have read

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that verb.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, right. You could Bill bar it like

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<v Speaker 1>he did with the Muller report, where he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't read any of this, it's all boring, and then

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't because why would they totally exonerated? Nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>see here? But here's what they did. Ken Martin said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he hit it. And then according to Rivera,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote this, he said that there was a missing chapter,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this missing chapter was never released. Now Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Martin says, no, there is no missing chapter. Paul Rivera

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<v Speaker 1>said that he printed out the chapter twice basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>the second time Ken Martin said he hadn't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we printed it out and brought it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a real he said, he said here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, this is like the worst case scenario for this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because now we're in like news cycle four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five about this, We are in more bad news

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<v Speaker 1>cycles about the DNC, right, Like, here's what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are the news cycles about the DNC you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have. Wow they raised a lot of money. Wow

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<v Speaker 1>they're good on television. Wow, that guy's really handsome. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are the news cycles we have on the DNC. What

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<v Speaker 1>huh are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>You got? I think most of my reactions are you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be fucking kidding me. This fucking guy is

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<v Speaker 2>so incompetent it is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all just so bad. Anyway. The point is,

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<v Speaker 1>Rivera comes up and says, basically the missing chapter which

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<v Speaker 1>now has its own news cycle, right, not just we

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<v Speaker 1>don't just have like one news cycle on the autopsy.

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<v Speaker 1>We have now a news cycle on the missing chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>The Missing Chapter basically says the stuff that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been saying this whole time, which is, there

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<v Speaker 1>are consultants making millions of dollars on Democratic candidates and

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<v Speaker 1>they are all absolutely just you know, taking advantage, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not open to new ideas. And so the everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who is you know, taking a check from people like

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Martin is not giving these people good ideas and

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<v Speaker 1>is not telling candidates to do the smart stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Silver, who is annoying but also very smart, said

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually read the omitted chapter, good on the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times for including it. It consists largely of

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<v Speaker 1>boilerplate and cliches and mentions Biden's decision to run only

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<v Speaker 1>in passing. I just want to say two other things

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<v Speaker 1>about this. If the autopsy is bad, it's an indictment

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<v Speaker 1>of Ken Martin. If the autopsy is not bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Martin didn't release it, it is an indictment of

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Martin. This is one of these things where every

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<v Speaker 1>road runs to Ken Martin should resign, right And even

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you and I are having this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>is a sign that Ken Martin should resign, because the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is, if Ben Wickler were the DNC chair, we

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<v Speaker 1>would not be sitting here having a conversation about an

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy that was paid for with DNC dollars and that

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<v Speaker 1>never saw the light of day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, in an interesting new thing. One of the most

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<v Speaker 2>disgusting things, among many disgusting things of this era, is

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration try to revoke Haitian refugee status. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they're putting ankle monitors on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday in Delaney Hall in Newark, New Jersey, another immigrant died.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they die or they murdered, they were put in

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<v Speaker 1>a place where they were not given the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>medical care that they needed to stay alive. In my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>you could certainly say that this administration has been responsible

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<v Speaker 1>now for the deaths of many immigrants. This is something

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<v Speaker 1>else that they're doing to immigrants that is meant to dehumanize,

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<v Speaker 1>to make people scared, to make people feel as if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be I mean, this is just so basically,

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<v Speaker 1>this is targeting Haitian immigrants who have protected status. So

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<v Speaker 1>you'll remember the Supreme Court recently said that immigrants who

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<v Speaker 1>have protected status no longer have it. That's it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like the dread scot of immigrants. Basically that the

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<v Speaker 1>protections they had they no longer have and that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>With the snap of a finger. They this great experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>this great country that you and I both had grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>or actually great grandparents or maybe great great grandparents who

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<v Speaker 1>came to this country because this was a place where

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<v Speaker 1>you could get a better life. Well you can't anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a Haitian asylum immigrant, you are fucked

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<v Speaker 1>because your protected status is gone. And so what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing before they defort these people, which obviously they are

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<v Speaker 1>planning to is to give them angle monitors and instructions

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<v Speaker 1>not to travel more than seventy five miles from their home.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen thousand immigrants protected Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. They

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<v Speaker 1>pay taxes, they take care of all people, They do

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that a lot of American citizens do not want

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and now they are being bullied and treated

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<v Speaker 1>like criminals. Why are they being treated like criminals? His

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<v Speaker 1>administration is filled with racists. That's it. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>could say other stuff, but the truth is the races.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the root of the tree. So it's also

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<v Speaker 2>filled with people who think war adventuring is real fun. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>according to a lot of reports, we are planning to

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<v Speaker 2>invade fucking Cuba. But then there's this other report from

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<v Speaker 2>Reuters that says US used virtually all long range precision

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<v Speaker 2>missiles during the Iran War. Great stuff, people, great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst part about this whole story the Ukrainians have

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<v Speaker 1>these really cheap drones that they said they would help

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<v Speaker 1>us use, and we were like, no, now we're using

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<v Speaker 1>our million dollar missiles. No, no, no, million dollar, five million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>ten million dollar missiles and so we did, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're gone. And we've seen a lot of reporting about

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<v Speaker 1>the munitions problem everywhere. So I do think this is

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<v Speaker 1>like an under reported story of the mission of the

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<v Speaker 1>missiles and how this administration has just completely burned all

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<v Speaker 1>of these missiles that we desperately need. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't need them and we shouldn't go into Cuba,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing is completely insane. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to point out President of Venezuela and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife still in a New York jail, right, Yvonne,

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<v Speaker 1>were still going, right, we were. Donald Trump said again

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<v Speaker 1>that we have a deal and at lowered gas prices,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all know that the Iranian said we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a deal. So I don't know who you trust

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. And then I mean, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>it's such an insane, insane, insane way to go. I

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<v Speaker 1>am absolutely, just completely I mean, I don't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to say shocked is not the right word. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you think it's going to be here. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration still making noise about Greenland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, real, real, great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Acosta is the author of the Substack the Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Acosta Show and the author of the New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>bestseller The Enemy of the People. A Dangerous time to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the Truth in America, Jim Acosta, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Molly, good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you. We have to start by talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Texas Republican Senator John Cornyan and his assessment of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. Basically, my man says, there's nothing we could

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<v Speaker 1>do to reign in the president.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean John Bardy, Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, you

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<v Speaker 4>could have voted against Todd Blanche you could have done that,

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<v Speaker 4>but you didn't do that, and we never really thought

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<v Speaker 4>you were going to do that. I don't for all

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<v Speaker 4>the people out there who held out hope for John

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<v Speaker 4>Cornyn in a profile encourage you know, Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 4>the tiniest violin playing for you, whatever that expression is. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, you know, it doesn't get more pathetic

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<v Speaker 4>these days than Republican senators twisting themselves into pretzels, trying

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<v Speaker 4>to simultaneously look like their own human being with their

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<v Speaker 4>own souls still in their bodies, while also bowing down

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<v Speaker 4>to Donald Trump every chance that they get.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is one of life's great mysteries, and they're all

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<v Speaker 4>going to go in the Hall of Shame. Years from now,

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<v Speaker 4>we're all going to look back at these clips and say, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>you could have done something. There were things you could

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<v Speaker 4>have done to reign and Donald Trump, and you just

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<v Speaker 4>never did any of them because you're a coward. You're

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<v Speaker 4>an absolute fucking coward. And you know how many of

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<v Speaker 4>those Republican senators are are there in the Senate, pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much all of them at this point. There are no

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<v Speaker 4>Mitt Romney's, There are no John mccains. Where have you gone,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe DiMaggio, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>Etc.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no Mitt romney's, there are no John McCain's.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are Max Millers. And there are Max Miller's

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<v Speaker 1>and Bernie Moreno's and Bertie Moreno, Republican senator from Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>He is he won the shared Brown seat, which shared

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<v Speaker 1>may actually win back the cycle share Brown, champion of workers' rights,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Moreno, champion of car dealerships. But he also is

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps on the right side of what has become one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most I think upsetting. I mean what I

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<v Speaker 1>read about the daughter today, divorce is going. Max Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>an Ohio congressman. He was married to Bertie Moreno's daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has devolved into a lot of public fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically the allegations are that morena, are that Max

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<v Speaker 1>Miller was violent with the wife, was violent with the child,

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<v Speaker 1>what harassed her, just every bad thing you could think.

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<v Speaker 4>Of, exactly, And oh, by the way, I mean yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and we should say all allegations, but oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>Max Miller has faced these allegations before. The former White

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<v Speaker 4>House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham under Trump one point zero,

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<v Speaker 4>has made similar allegations.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we're at the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Where people like Eric Swawell and Graham Plattner would have

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<v Speaker 4>already been booted out of politics and they would already

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<v Speaker 4>be gone, and we would already had several new cycles

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<v Speaker 4>since those departures. But we're still waiting for Max Miller

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<v Speaker 4>to leave the scene. And he's hanging on by his fingernails.

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<v Speaker 4>And apparently Donald Trump is even himself has told him

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<v Speaker 4>it's not looking good for you, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>he went in front of the cameras and said, I still.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Donald Trump always stands with the accused, not the accuser.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why, But why but why?

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<v Speaker 3>Why? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh GOLLI It's also a case of like, these are

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<v Speaker 1>people who have abandoned the moral high ground. Right, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has multiple allegations of sexual misconduct and abuse, multiple allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been adjudicated by e. G. And Carol and had

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<v Speaker 1>to pay her five million dollars. So this is not

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<v Speaker 1>like a controvert, you know, these are truths that Republican

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<v Speaker 1>voters have decided do not matter to them. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when Donald Trump goes to Max Miller, he says, what

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that he can say being that he

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<v Speaker 1>is got he is so abandoned the moral high ground.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, your polling is bad and you may not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to win.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and that's all they care about.

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<v Speaker 4>And really, at this point, I mean, you know, do

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<v Speaker 4>they really expect to hang on to the House of Representatives?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess if you're you know, inside Donald Trump's brain,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a scary place, and he's thinking, Wow, if

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<v Speaker 4>I cheat just just enough to hang on to the

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<v Speaker 4>House of Represents, it is that maybe this one seat

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<v Speaker 4>does matter. This is a very disturbing picture that we're

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<v Speaker 4>painting here. But I mean, Max Miller, he should no

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<v Speaker 4>longer be in the House of Representatives. And but the

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<v Speaker 4>only reason why he's in this position right now where

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<v Speaker 4>he's about to be shoved out is because he's becoming

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<v Speaker 4>a political liability because he because because it may damage

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the party and they don't want that

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of a that kind of a guy on

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<v Speaker 4>the ballot when I guess, you know, especially in a

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<v Speaker 4>place like Ohio where Shared Brown is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the ballot, the governor's race and Amy actin you know,

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<v Speaker 4>vivik Ramswami is not looking that hot in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>and so to see state, you know, Democrats winning statewide

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<v Speaker 4>office in Ohio, when is the last time we saw that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's been a very long time. It's been many moons

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<v Speaker 4>since that occurred, and so I can't I can certainly

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<v Speaker 4>see why they're trying to push Max Miller to the side,

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<v Speaker 4>but my goodness, think about how long it's taking them

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<v Speaker 4>to do that and contrast that with where Democrats have

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<v Speaker 4>been for what the last year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to add, because I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason we're hearing about these allegations, the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason they're being taken so seriously, is because there's an

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<v Speaker 1>affluent woman who is the daughter of a powerful man. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Stephanie Grifchin Grisham worked in the Trump White

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<v Speaker 1>House and she barely could get these allegations out. They

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<v Speaker 1>ended up both signing NDAs and there was some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of something happened there that we don't really know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really important point. It is very hard for

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<v Speaker 1>women to come forward. It is very hard for these

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<v Speaker 1>things to be taken seriously. And what Max Miller is

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<v Speaker 1>doing is a lot. He's engaging in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we see when women come forward. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, I cooked her dinner. She let me

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<v Speaker 1>cook her dinner. She wouldn't have let me do that

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<v Speaker 1>had I abused her. Like these are textbook exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>And where is Bernie Marino on this?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's now finally starting to say something about

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<v Speaker 4>this congressman who's been abusive towards allegedly abusive towards his daughter, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, are you kidding me? Like it's taken you

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<v Speaker 4>this long to say this? Did you have to get

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<v Speaker 4>permission to say this? It's rather pathetic? And you know

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<v Speaker 4>he had salty your language for doctor Fauci at a

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<v Speaker 4>fucking congressional hearing than he is for his for his

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<v Speaker 4>own son in law who has been allegedly extremely abusive

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<v Speaker 4>towards not only your daughter but your granddaughter. Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, where is your soul? How does this make

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<v Speaker 4>you a man? I mean, honestly, dude, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>please go stand in front of the mirror and do

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<v Speaker 4>some deep thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>My goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>And Moreno, did not come forward until after Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>said it was okay, because yeah, Donald Trump. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come forward until Donald Trump calls Max Miller, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a really good example of why this is still very

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<v Speaker 1>much the party of Donald Trump. The other Ohio Senator

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<v Speaker 1>John Hustad has not, yeah a.

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<v Speaker 3>Pen sounding very pathetic about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they're all waiting for the deer leader to

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<v Speaker 4>give them the nod. When the deer leader gives them

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<v Speaker 4>the nod, then they can act like human beings again.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really it's kind of astonishing. And I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you would think that there we never reached the bottom,

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<v Speaker 4>and there is no worst with Donald Trump, as Barry

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<v Speaker 4>Trump likes to say, But my god, I mean, when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to allegations of domestic violence of this nature

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<v Speaker 4>and people still can't find their souls and be actual

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<v Speaker 4>human beings. We must be in Washington. We're not in

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<v Speaker 4>Kansas anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read you just a little reporting of

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<v Speaker 1>what Bernie Marino said to reporters. This girl is crying

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<v Speaker 1>at night because she can't sleep without her little blue bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>And his answer is, I'm just not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. So finally, yesterday he lets the blue

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<v Speaker 1>bunny go to the girl. This is completely depraved, but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't come out and tell this story until the

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<v Speaker 1>day after Donald Trump calls Max.

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<v Speaker 4>Miller exactly yeah, And I uh, there's there's like a

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<v Speaker 4>fatal attraction quality to this, you know, with Max Miller,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he he this guy, you know, just seems

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<v Speaker 4>to me to be, you know, one of the not

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<v Speaker 4>exhibit A, but exhibit I don't know, the of men

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<v Speaker 4>from MAGA operating with two sets of rules in American society.

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<v Speaker 4>And if this had been a Democrat, this, this person what,

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<v Speaker 4>he would.

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<v Speaker 3>Already be gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But because they all work for Donald Trump, they

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<v Speaker 4>they have to wait for Don Corleone to give them

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<v Speaker 4>the nod. And it's it's absolutely disgraceful. And I again,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how I'm a father. I have a daughter,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is with Bernie Marino right now. Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>if this were my son in law, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Senate is not that far away from the House.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have to get that.

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<v Speaker 4>They would have to get Max Miller around the clock protection,

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<v Speaker 4>if you remindrant in law.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is, but it does show very much that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump still controls the party, which speaks to this idea

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at John Cornan saying he can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it is that these Republicans in Congress have

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<v Speaker 1>given up their power. Part of it is that these

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans in Congress don't really want to have the power

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<v Speaker 1>to stop him.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's almost as though they've they've forgotten how to

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<v Speaker 4>act like human beings. They've they have forgotten you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what it's like to operate with a functioning spine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know the party is you know, the party

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<v Speaker 4>is Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is the party. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that, you know, and you know, you could talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the Michigan Senate race. You know where these numbers

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<v Speaker 4>break down. You know, Larry Sabadeau was pointing out just

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<v Speaker 4>the other day that you know, not only is the

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<v Speaker 4>House really gone for the Republicans. The Senate is in

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<v Speaker 4>play too, and the Senate is in play whether or

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<v Speaker 4>not whatever happens in Michigan, the Senate is still in

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.640
<v Speaker 4>play for the Democrats. And you know, when we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about Shared Brown returning to the Senate, I mean, this

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 4>is the we're just seeing like the little tip of

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 4>the top of the of the title wave that is coming.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know why, for the life of me, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not having more serious conversations inside the Republican Party about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw another story that said that Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 4>been admitting to Republicans that things aren't looking good right now.

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<v Speaker 4>No kidding, really is that you think that's the case

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<v Speaker 4>when you're when you're you know, painting gilded horses or

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 4>whatever it is Washington, you're the Lincoln Memorial and you're

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 4>failed reflecting full project while everybody else is getting the shaft. Yeah,

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 4>things might be a little bleak right now. Politically speaking, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is also pretty incredible to look at this moment and

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to see like Trump still is true thing that his

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>polls are good. So right, he said, I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>real polls and they're good. So I guess he's seeing

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<v Speaker 1>maga Republicans in Alabama still support him. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's worth like Trump continues to have this

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 1>unreality problem, which is pretty striking. So yesterday Judge box

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<v Speaker 1>of wine, Janine Piro is called in Donald Trump is

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>mad about the reflecting pool. You know, Judge Janine doesn't.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>She can only do what she can do with reality.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true, no, and listen, I mean, this takes us

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<v Speaker 4>back to sort of the post January six days, when

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 4>there was this distinction between what the Trump people could

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<v Speaker 4>say in front of the cameras on TV and on

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 4>cable networks and lie about the election, but when they

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.959
<v Speaker 4>go into court, they can't lie as much because there

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<v Speaker 4>would be consequences legally for themselves, essentially losing their law

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<v Speaker 4>licenses and so on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Judge Denin.

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<v Speaker 4>Piro said, you know, I'd rather have my box of

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<v Speaker 4>wine and my law license as opposed to just my

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 4>box of wine. I think maybe that's what happened there.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing too, Mally, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just started to think about this, you know how

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 4>you and I and many others have had this you know,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 4>conversation about there's Earth one and then there's Earth two

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 4>and Earth one is the normal Earth, and Earth two

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 4>is the Donald Trump Earth, where lies are truth and

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 4>truth are lies. I wonder now if there's an Earth

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<v Speaker 4>three and Earth three is. We don't know what the

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<v Speaker 4>fuck to do as a country with the president who

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<v Speaker 4>is in such cognitive decline that he can't really formulate

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<v Speaker 4>a sentence, an intelligent sentence anymore. It's that capacity is

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<v Speaker 4>gone now. And just yesterday in the Oval Office, he

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<v Speaker 4>was going from one thing to the next on a rant,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was he couldn't say eighty six forty seven,

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<v Speaker 4>so he was saying things like eighty seventy and so

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<v Speaker 4>he just like, so, I don't know, I almost feel

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<v Speaker 4>like we've been moved.

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<v Speaker 3>From Earth two to Earth three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we and as a country, we don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what to do about that, or I mean, I think

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 4>many of us know what to do about it. We

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 4>have a Republican party that simply won't do it. We

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<v Speaker 4>have the John Cornyn Republican Party, right, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Also think, look, you know, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>reporting on the state of Joe Biden, eighty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old Joe Biden, that he was not sharp, that he was,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was that unbelievably bad debate performance. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. You know, he decided not to run

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<v Speaker 1>again the poll showed he wasn't going to win. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Donald Trump, eighty years old making decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, even on his worst day, would never be

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<v Speaker 1>of making, right like numerous form wars. Imagine. I mean,

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, still talking about Greenland and how he's going

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to go for Greenland. I mean, this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that any other president, even if it were

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was sharp as attack, would be in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of trouble for Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can't just write one book about this.

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 4>It would have to be many books. It would have

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 4>to be like a trilogy. At this point of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, going off the deep end, and you know,

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 4>to me, I just think that Joe Biden was one thing.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump is having one of these episodes where you know,

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 4>where he's basically saying, we killed Medicare. He's doing that

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 4>just about every day now, and he's almost doing it

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 4>multiple times a day, and in the way and this

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<v Speaker 4>is what I mean about Earth three and the way

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 4>that he's worn us down over the years with truth

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 4>being lies and lies being truth and so on, and

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 4>people feel like that's a fire that's one fire hose,

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 4>the fire hose of lies. Now we're getting the fire

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 4>hose of dementia, and we don't know what to do

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 4>with the fire hose of dementia. And that's a totally

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 4>different that's a horse of a different feather. And I

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 4>don't know, you know until I mean, you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>thinks that he can win the Iran war in the

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 4>way that he wins his golf tournaments at Bedminster where

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 4>the caddy dumps he the ball out of his post.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wanted, gimmy, just win his thirty fourth or some.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy number he did, I know. And it reminds me

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<v Speaker 4>of Bill Murray, Candy Shack, you know Cinderella story, you know,

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 4>coming out of nowhere, the groundskeeper, you know.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Hits the golf It's a miracle, he was.

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not doing the line right, but no, but I

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 4>think that, you know, he's wishing that the caddy that

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 4>Pete Hegseth would dump a golf ball out of his

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 4>pocket so some way he could win the war in Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>And there have been stories like they're they're looking for ideas,

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 4>they're looking for new thinking outside the box ideas on

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<v Speaker 4>how to win the war to Iran, and apparently Reuters

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 4>was reporting that we've depleted our missile capacity, much of

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<v Speaker 4>our long range missile capacity or something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, it's this is a fuck up.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a big, old, you know, industrial sized, Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump sized fuck ups.

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<v Speaker 1>Who could have seen that the man who bankrupted all

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the casinos would be just so terrible at being president,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>even though the last time he was president he killed

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>lots of his supporters by telling them not to wear masks.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's why he's been focused on, like

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<v Speaker 4>building a helipad and putting new grass in at the

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<v Speaker 4>White House and changing the columns and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's dawn on him. He's also bad.

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<v Speaker 4>At the big things, like maybe running a pandemic is

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 4>just not his thing. Well, mag winning awards just not

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 4>his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Maggie Haberman said that when she was in the

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>White House, all he was interested in was the real

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<v Speaker 1>estate and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>And but he's not even good at that. He's not.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 3>He's basically and Molly.

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<v Speaker 4>You know this being a New Yorker, he's good at

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 4>slapping his name on shit.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 3>He's good at marketing.

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<v Speaker 4>Things to people that have disposable amounts of money, and

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 4>not so disposable amounts of money, as it turns out

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>in many cases like crypto, and but that his specialty

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 4>has always been being sister and being a guy who

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>pulls a fast one, and that just ain't good enough.

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 4>And why were we learning this lesson all over again

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 4>a second time round. I have no idea, but we're

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 4>getting that. In addition to somebody who is really in

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 4>the sunset in the twilight of his twilight zone days,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 4>it seems to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes in the twilight of his twilight zone days, Jim Acosta.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Tacy Young is the founder of the Justice Connection. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Fast Politics. Stacy, Hi, who are you? I'm good?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain to us what you do, what your

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<v Speaker 1>organization is, and how you got there? Sure?

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<v Speaker 5>So, I was at the Justice Department as a lawyer

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<v Speaker 5>for almost twenty years. I resigned shortly after the inauguration

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<v Speaker 5>to launch and organizations to support the OJ employees. That

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<v Speaker 5>was the second Trump inauguration, Right, Brat, you had seen

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 5>the writing on the wall and you knew things were

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 5>going to get rough. Yes, I am not a cheery,

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 5>optimistic person in the best of days. And I took

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 5>what Trump was saying on the campaign trail and during

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 5>the transition very seriously and his stated intentions to attack

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.719
<v Speaker 5>the federal workforce. And I knew DOJ employees would be

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 5>particularly vulnerable because there was only one agency that investigated

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 5>and convicted him, So I knew it was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a real bloodbath. And I looked around and tried

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<v Speaker 5>to find kind of organizations that were gearing up to

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 5>support federal employees, especially a DJ, and I just didn't

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 5>see any. So I ran an organization inside DOJ for

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 5>years to support employees. And I thought. I felt like

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 5>I was going to be a target in particular, and

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 5>I knew that many others would be targets. So I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to leave and try to start an organization myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Did those people need your protection?

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<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately I was very prescient. My worst predictions have come

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<v Speaker 5>to fruition, and they have absolutely needed protection, and everybody

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 5>can protect them. Like one of the things I did

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<v Speaker 5>about a week before I left the department was they

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<v Speaker 5>wrote not Been in the New York Times calling on

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<v Speaker 5>all Americans to support DOJ employees and that was kind

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 5>of a call to action, and launching the Justice Connection

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 5>was an answer to that call. So, you know, we

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 5>have provided the support that we heard from them that

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 5>they needed. We launched a probone illegal network. We have

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<v Speaker 5>over two hundred and fifty lawyers who are now representing

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 5>them when they need legal representation, if they're under investigation

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 5>or getting fired, or need ethics advice. We have a

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 5>mental health support network because as Russell voche said he

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>was going to put federal employees in trauma. We've an

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 5>employment support network for employees who get fired or just

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 5>need to leave. We provide media trainings so people who

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 5>do leave can start speaking out, and we speak at ourselves.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 5>You know, we've launched a number of huge advocacy campaigns.

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 5>We've been in national media outlets over three hundred times.

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 5>At this point, we've become kind of the voice of

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 5>the career DOJ workforce.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we are here and Todd Blanche he wants a promotion.

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Tell us why you don't think Todd blanch should have

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<v Speaker 1>that promotion and just specifically why.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, from day one he has made it

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<v Speaker 5>clear that his client is the President and not the

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 5>United States. I mean, as DOJ lawyers all know, you know,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 5>we would walk into court and say, my name is

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 5>Stacy Young. I represent the United States. Todd Blanche represents

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 5>the President, and that attitude infuses everything he does. It

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 5>infuses the IRS agreement he entered into, It infuses the

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 5>slush fund, It infuses his erasure of accountability for January

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 5>sixth defendants. It infuses his vindictive prosecutions, It infuses the

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 5>fact that he has pushed out almost twenty thousand DOJ

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 5>career employees, and it infuses every court order he violates,

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 5>every judge he attacks, and every way he has assaulted

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 5>the rule of law. This is unprecedented at the Department.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen anything like this, and the rule of

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 5>law frankly can't survive if the primary institution enforcing it

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 5>has been corrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give us an example of something that a

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>normal AG would do versus something that Tom Blanche has done. So,

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a normal Attorney General would ensure that prosecutions are brought

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>against individuals because they break the law, and because the

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>laws that they break in the way that they break

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>them is a priority for the Department to pursue. A

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>normal AG would not pick up the phone, when the

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>president calls and say, Okay, I am going to.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 5>Investigate and then prosecute this enemy.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>You have so give us an example of who he's

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.959
<v Speaker 1>done that with. He's done that with Jim Comey now

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>at least twice. He's done that with Letitia James. He's

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>done that with John Brennan and the Southern Poverty Law

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Center and Jack Smith, and the list goes on and on.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>When the president is able to, especially frankly unhinged president

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like this one, when a president is able to use

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the Department as a sword and a shield for that matter,

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that means that none of us are safe.

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 5>That means that you can be a good citizen and

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 5>follow the law, and if you speak out against this

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 5>president you can still be prosecuted. That is not a

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 5>system in which the rule of law is working, and

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 5>that's a system in which we should all be very scared.

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<v Speaker 1>Republican senators like John Cornyan have said there's nothing they

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 1>can do to reign in the president. They're voting a

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>two committee. There's nothing they could do. But since you

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>know the law, what could they do if they wanted

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to do it? What could these United States senators do? Well?

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 5>As a starting point. They could vote against Todd Blanche.

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, some of the statements we've heard coming from

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 5>John Cornan in the last day or two are nonsensical,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 5>where he's a, well, you know, I got this slush

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 5>fund in IRS agreement adjusted a little bit. That's all

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 5>I can do. No, what you can do is not

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 5>vote for the guy who has been responsible for so

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 5>much corruption and so many affronts to the rule of law.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 5>You don't need to vote for him. But in addition

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 5>to that, they can start issuing subpoenas to Justice Department officials.

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 5>They can still start highlighting these abuses. They can have hearings,

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 5>they can put their foot down and exercise the oversight

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 5>responsibilities that they have.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying they could subpoena the assistant of Todd

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Blanche and find out when he called when he put

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>through a call to Donald Trump. The assistant to Todd

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Blanche could say, you know, we put through a call

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>from the White House, and then right afterwards Todd Blanch

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>asked me to do I mean, right, isn't there documentation

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>for all this stuff?

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? There sure is, And they could absolutely issue subpoenas

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 5>to get that information and they are refusing to do that. Now,

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 5>of course Donald Trump could pardon anyone who might be

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 5>at risk of perjury, but you know, let.

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Him do it.

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Do it anyway, Do everything you possibly can. It is

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 5>supposed to be a coequal branch of government. Use the

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 5>power you have to reign in a renegade justice department.

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:26.479
<v Speaker 1>You could do hearings, you could do subpoenas, you could

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>make a case to show the American people what to

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>what we all know Todd Blanche is doing what's been

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>reported to have Todd Blanche doing. But in a hearing,

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>we will have people like actually up there being like, no, no,

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>this is what he did. Why do you think Republicans

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>aren't doing this?

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 5>Because they're showing the same fields due to the president

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 5>that Todd blanches. And it's pathetic and it's dangerous, and

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 5>they refuse to acknowledge what they all know, which is

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 5>what happened. Is happening, is appalling. It's making us less safe,

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 5>it is making our rights more vulnerable. It's going to

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 5>make our elections less secure, it's going to make our

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 5>economy less strong. The damage that's being done and the

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 5>risks they're creating really can't be overstated, and like you said,

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 5>they should be having hearings every single day. We recently

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 5>worked with Senator Booker's office to put on a shadow

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 5>hearing where we had people talk about the Epstein files,

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 5>about illegal terminations of career employees, of the slush fund,

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 5>of the IRS agreement. It was a really powerful hearing.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 5>Our communications director Peter Carr, who Todd Blanche fired directly

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 5>because he was the spokesperson for the Jack Smith team.

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 5>He testified about his termination and what it means that

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 5>DOJ lost his decades of institutional knowledge. This stuff is

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 5>just being ignored by Congress. It's not just that they're

0:39:53.760 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 5>destroying institutional norms and implementing completely horrific priority. They're breaking laws,

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 5>and if Congress doesn't care about the laws that it passed,

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 5>they're going to continue doing it.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>There are options here for hearings, but they are also

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>there's stuff here that's happening like the DOJ just because

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the DOJ they just control the federal courts, they don't

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>control the state courts. So if people are breaking the law.

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>For example, here's a good example, New Mexico is trying

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to get these unredacted Epstein files so that they can

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>do an investigation in Tasarro Ranch. So far the DOJ

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>has not released them. What could New Mexico do to

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>get those files?

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, New Mexico can go to court

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 5>and the court can issue orders and those orders are enforceable.

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 5>In addition, the New Mexico state bar con sanction attorneys

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 5>who violate state bar.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Rules even if they work for the DOJ.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 5>Sure, oh, absolutely so. DOJ lawyers are absolutely bound by

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 5>state bar rules, and I should mention on that point.

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 5>This Department of Justice proposed a regulation that would mean

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.879
<v Speaker 5>that state bars cannot sanction DOJ lawyers. I mean, think

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 5>about what that means. That is creating a special exception

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 5>for DOJ lawyers to violate ethics rules. Why why would

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 5>you do that? If? I mean, DOJ lawyers should be

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 5>held to higher ethical standards than anybody else because they

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 5>wield enormous power. But this DOJ is so hooked on

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 5>this unitary executive theory that they think state bars can't

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 5>touch us. You know, we rule so, I mean, you

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 5>see so many examples of this. But there are things

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 5>states can do. I mean, there are supremacy clause issues.

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 5>It gets a little kind of complicated about what exactly

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 5>states can do with respect to federal the you know,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 5>the exercise of federal power. But certainly state bars until

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 5>this rules finalize at least can absolutely sanction or does

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 5>bar DOJ lawyers.

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Is this rule going to go through for sure?

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 5>No, So the rule and comment period ended already. So

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 5>now the rule is under consideration by the things that

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 5>by the administration, by the executive branch. So we'll have

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 5>an answer in a few months, maybe a year. You know,

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 5>we had a big campaign a Justice Connection to get

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 5>people to submit comments during the notice and common period.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 5>I think over a million one point two million people

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 5>file comments during the notice and comment period, which both

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 5>like expresses how outraged people are by this, but it'll

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 5>also probably have the effect of slowing it down at

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 5>the very least. But it's just one of the many

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 5>things they're doing a DOJ and across the federal government

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 5>to you know, insulate political officials from you know, consequences.

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 5>They also recently promo an issue to proposed rule to

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 5>require federal employees to sign NDAs, which is an obvious

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 5>to attempt to you know stififule whistle blowing, which is

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 5>has never been as important as it is. Right now,

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, some of the information we know about DJ,

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 5>some of the corruption we know about, the abuses we

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 5>know about came from DOJ whistleblowers, and you know they

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 5>have whistleblower rights and we need them. It's part of

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 5>how our democracy works. And this, you know, administration wants

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 5>to shut that down. They want to intimidate people and

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.320
<v Speaker 5>to stink by it, think silent. And there are people

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 5>inside who are the only people privy to information that

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 5>we all deserve to know. So one of the things

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 5>we do as an organization is support whistleblowers. We help

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 5>them blow the whistle, We help them go to reporters

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 5>because traditional whistleblower avenues have really been choked off by

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 5>this administration. So you know, there are safe ways to

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 5>still do it. And I'll just put in a plug.

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.760
<v Speaker 5>If any DOJ employees are out there and have information

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 5>they want to share, you should come to us and

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 5>we can help.

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's worths realizing that this stuff is totally unprecedented,

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's also a lot of it's not lead.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 5>Goal right, A lot of it is not legal, but

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 5>unfortunately a lot of it is DJ After Watergate implemented

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 5>pretty strict guidelines internally to make sure that the kind

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 5>of corruption we witnessed in the seventies under Nixon wasn't

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 5>going to happen again. But those guidelines are not codified

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 5>in law. There are no enforcement mechanisms. A lot of

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 5>them are contained in what's called the Justice Manual, which

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 5>is kind of like the Bible and DOJ that all

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 5>lawyers and agents and others follow. But if you violate

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 5>the Justice Manual, if you kind of you know, break

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 5>down the institutional guardrails, there's nothing that anyone can really do.

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean, DOJ works when people running it act in

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 5>good faith and uphold ethical standards, and this administration has

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 5>shown that it's unwilling to do that.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's more norms and less laws, which is a

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>problem you've seen again and again with this administration. That's

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a far more concise way of putting it exactly. It's

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>interesting to make Todd blanche actually did work in justice, right,

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and can you talk about sort of his history and

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>why what he's become is so shocking.

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 5>This administration and people within it, I generally find to

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 5>be pretty transparent and easy to figure out. Todds has

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 5>a real mystery to me. I mean, he was a

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 5>prosecutor in the Southern District of New York for almost

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 5>ten years, and you know, we work with a lot

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 5>of his former co workers, and people respected him and

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 5>liked him, and he seemed to have a moral compass,

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 5>and he understood what the DOJ norms were and he

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 5>followed them. So, you know, his weird path to DOJ again,

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 5>where he left his firm and decided to represent Donald

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 5>Trump exclusively during the Biden administration and now his complete

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 5>like you know, weird sicko fancy and elevation to the

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 5>top is hard to explain. He knows what the rules are,

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 5>he knows what the norms are. He knows how to

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.439
<v Speaker 5>do that job. I mean, you could argue, well, Pam

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 5>Bondi was brand new to the department. She didn't know

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 5>how worked. He knows how it works. He knows that

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 5>everything he's doing is contrary and offensive to the norms

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 5>that keep DOJ upstanding. And you know, he's been willing

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 5>to trample on everything the department is always stood for.

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 5>So it's it's really puzzling what is motivating him other

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 5>than just like a desire for power. I mean, I

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 5>don't want to psycho analysts him, but I don't know what.

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Else because he really does know better, and I think

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the point of him knowing better is really important here.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, is there anything people can do?

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 5>I mean, right now, you know Todd Blanche got out

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 5>of committee this morning, There's still going to be a

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 5>floor vote. It's you know, it could happen in a

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 5>few days. Call your senator. Even if you think that

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 5>you know exactly how your senator is going to vote,

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 5>Call your senator to let them know that you care

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 5>about the rule of law. This is offensive to it

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 5>and you want to see your senator, regardless of where

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 5>they fall on the political spectrum. You want to see

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 5>your senators do more to check this out of control

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Justice Department. So I really encourage you to call or email,

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 5>just let your position be known. There's still time and

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 5>there are still a few senators who's position on this

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 5>we don't know, So this is not a done deal yet.

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 5>It could really help for everybody to reach out.

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Stacy, Thank you, thank you, thank you.

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And also I should mention you should visit us

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 5>at the Justice Connection dot org and follow our stubs back,

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 5>which is just justice connection.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>No moment Jesse Cannon, Miley, John Fast So it's time

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>for our moment of buckery.

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 2>But backbencher report style. Have you ever heard of Representative

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Chuck Headwards? Because I'm going to be real, that's one

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of the ones I just went who Anyway, the Ethics

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Committee does not like that he was messing around with staffers.

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I wish we had the statistics for how often the

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Ethics Committee has found.

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs basically stopped stop fucking.

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Your staffers, right, I mean I think it's only happened

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like twice, like most of the time, maybe three times,

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like most of the time. The Ethics Committee is like,

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you good, You're good. You know, it's a victims crime.

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that they found there was substantial reason

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to believe Representative Edwards violated House rules related to sexual

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:31.879
<v Speaker 1>harassment and hostile workplaces is amazing. Okay, it's amazing. There's

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>a crazy number of these cases have been you know

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that the Ethics Committee is just fine with because remember

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the Ethics Committee is made up of other members of Congress, right,

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 1>so this is like, this is like internal affairs, right.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to just point out something about this story.

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>It is. I read the whole story yesterday and and

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it is so gross, and the parts of it that

0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Edwards turned over to the committee. He's just so creepy.

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's like that yellow dress was burned

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.320
<v Speaker 1>into my brain. He did puzzle, you know, a puzzle.

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Come with me to this, like creepy, weird. He's sixty five.

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 1>These staffers are in their twenties and thirties. He's been

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>married since nineteen eighty. He says none of it's romantic.

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.760
<v Speaker 1>He sent one staff for thirty pints of ice cream.

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just like super gross and even like

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>he he made a plan to go with a staffer

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and then sent her flowers and she wrote back,

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I hope you know this is not romantic. I mean,

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.479
<v Speaker 1>like he you know he Both women received gifts from him,

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>including jewelry designer, pursus guns because he's a Republican, shoes, flowers,

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a laptop and his cell phone, a KitchenAid mixer, a

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>robotic vacuum, vacations, tickets to performances, and one on one dinners.

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>One of the staffers felt she was obligated to wear

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:04.399
<v Speaker 1>a necklace that Edwards gave her. The congressman told her

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he was disappointed when she did not wear it. It

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>is so uncomfortable. He paid for spot treatments to discussed

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>going to strip clubs in DC. Directed one of the

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.720
<v Speaker 1>staffers not only to notify Edward's schedulers about a dinner

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the pair had planned. He bought one of the staffers

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to a holiday event at the White House and told

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>her he wanted the night to be perfect. He pressured

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>staffers to continue the evening with him and asked her

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>to travel too and from the event with him in

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:38.879
<v Speaker 1>his car. It is so incredibly gross, and I want

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to point out this the first time.

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 5>Okay, here we go.

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time the Ethics Committee has recommended

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 1>censer since it took action against former Representative Charlie Wrangell.

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:57.240
<v Speaker 1>You'll remember Charlie Wrangell. He's dead, unfortunately in twenty ten. Okay,

0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it is now sixteen years later. Okay, they never find

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong, So the fact that this is happening is insane.

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Edwards is, of course, just like Max Miller running for

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>reelection in North Carolina's eleventh congressional district against Democratic challenger

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Ager, who will be on this podcast. I promise

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you we will have him on this podcast anytime he wants,

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>unless he's a lady, in which case we.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 5>Will have her.

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>The committee report complicates Edward's past to victory, as I

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>hope we all do agree, this fucking person should not

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 1>be a member of Congress anymore. Tom tillis who is

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>on his trying to come back campaign, and said if

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the bipartist An Ethics Committee has acknowledged that there was

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>some wrongdoing, I think it's going to be problematic for

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>his campaign. So brave Tom tillis, so brave. That's it

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