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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and Ray Dalyio says, the AI bubble

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Speaker 1: is reaching great depression territory. We have such a great

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Speaker 1: show for you today, the Jim Agosta Shows. Jim Agosta

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Speaker 1: stops by to talk about Republican Congressman Max Miller as

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Speaker 1: the albatross hanging over the GOP's head. Then we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to former Justice Department employee and the head of the

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Speaker 1: Justice Connection, Stacy Young, about how dangerous it is to

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Speaker 1: confirm Todd Blanche as Attorney General.

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Speaker 2: But first the news, Smiley, we are having the Senate

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Speaker 2: move ahead on a bill that would avert a government

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Speaker 2: shut down. And I think it's a very interesting thing here.

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Speaker 2: The base seems to say shut it the fuck down,

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Speaker 2: and as always, leadership is not doing with the base wants.

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing here? I'm kind of perplexed, if

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Speaker 2: I'm being.

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Speaker 1: Honest, Scatin emboldened Jesse Cannon because his party. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Kidding my party. What's my party? Well, you know by

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Speaker 2: wig of the party.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm teasing you. I'm teasing you you're a wing

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Speaker 1: of the party. Okay, the wide bobs, that's right. Here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. This is another reconciliation to keep the government open,

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Speaker 1: another stop gap spending bill. That's because Republicans cannot get

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Speaker 1: their shit together to legislate, and so we're just stop

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Speaker 1: gap to stop gap to stop gap. You'll remember that

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Speaker 1: Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency and

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Speaker 1: they shut down the government they could not agree on

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Speaker 1: DHS and they had the longest government shut down ever

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Speaker 1: for DHS. And they did that because they are ideologically

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Speaker 1: completely at sea. They have one thing that they all

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Speaker 1: believe in, and that's Fieldy to dealer leader. So we

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Speaker 1: got a quote here from the leader of the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: the Senate Minority leader, that is very much like the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing we see from him. For months, Democrats

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Speaker 1: have been clear, we want to fund the government. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why advert a shutdown again? Why and pass

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Speaker 1: strong bipartisan appropriations bills that improve people's lives. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that this administration wants to improve people's lives?

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Speaker 3: I do not.

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Speaker 1: Right, Democrats want the base wants them to obstruct, and

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Speaker 1: here we are. So Senator Patty Murray of Washington, the

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Speaker 1: top Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, said, enabling this rule,

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Speaker 1: and basically the rule is that would allow the administration

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Speaker 1: to cancel grants based on the recipients if they do

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Speaker 1: not conform to President Trump's political views. I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: this is something are trying to do. Okay, they want

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Speaker 1: to cancel grants. These are grants like you know, the

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Speaker 1: grant to study the Osprey is Donald Trump doesn't like ospres,

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Speaker 1: so it's canceled a grant to study. These are like,

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Speaker 1: this is your tax dollars going to science, except science

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Speaker 1: Trump doesn't like, then he can cancel it. So enabling

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Speaker 1: this rule, according to Patty Murray, would give Trump the

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Speaker 1: green light to take even more federal funding hostage. Of course,

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Speaker 1: she's right. So it is just a complete fucking disaster.

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Speaker 1: This crew cannot fucking shoot straight. And here we are

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Speaker 1: in just nightmare fuel scenario, and there we go. The

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Speaker 1: legislation they do is insane and bad. Legislation they don't

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Speaker 1: do is insane and bad. It is a just a

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Speaker 1: complete fuckery over there. And they're all trying to just

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Speaker 2: So we're in that news cycle where we keep finding

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Speaker 2: out more and more that the DNC is a shit

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Speaker 2: show for lack of a better word, And there's this

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Speaker 1: Going, what So if you or I wrote the autopsy

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Speaker 1: So basically I want to pause for a minute and

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Speaker 1: just explain how we got here. Ken Martin, through Paul

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Speaker 1: hired by the DNC to write this autopsy. It is

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Speaker 1: And like, I just want to pause and say all

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Speaker 2: I like that verb.

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Speaker 1: I like that, right. You could Bill bar it like

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Speaker 1: he did with the Muller report, where he was like,

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Speaker 1: people didn't because why would they totally exonerated? Nothing to

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Speaker 1: see here? But here's what they did. Ken Martin said,

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Speaker 1: and again, this is like the worst case scenario for this, right,

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Speaker 1: because now we're in like news cycle four hundred and

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Speaker 1: cycles about the DNC, right, Like, here's what you want.

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Speaker 2: You got? I think most of my reactions are you

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Speaker 1: This is all just so bad. Anyway. The point is,

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Speaker 1: We have now a news cycle on the missing chapter.

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Speaker 1: The Missing Chapter basically says the stuff that you and

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Speaker 1: I have been saying this whole time, which is, there

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Speaker 1: Nate Silver, who is annoying but also very smart, said

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Speaker 2: So, in an interesting new thing. One of the most

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Speaker 2: disgusting things, among many disgusting things of this era, is

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration try to revoke Haitian refugee status. Now

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Speaker 1: Yesterday in Delaney Hall in Newark, New Jersey, another immigrant died.

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Speaker 1: you could certainly say that this administration has been responsible

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Speaker 1: With the snap of a finger. They this great experiment,

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Speaker 1: Fifteen thousand immigrants protected Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. They

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Speaker 1: administration is filled with racists. That's it. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: filled with people who think war adventuring is real fun. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: missiles during the Iran War. Great stuff, people, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: The worst part about this whole story the Ukrainians have

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Speaker 1: the munitions problem everywhere. So I do think this is

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Speaker 1: and the whole thing is completely insane. By the way,

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Speaker 1: were still going, right, we were. Donald Trump said again

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Speaker 1: that we have a deal and at lowered gas prices,

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Speaker 1: it's such an insane, insane, insane way to go. I

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Speaker 1: am absolutely, just completely I mean, I don't even want

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Speaker 1: to say shocked is not the right word. It's just

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Speaker 1: exactly what you think it's going to be here. Also,

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, real, real, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Jim Acosta is the author of the Substack the Jim

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Speaker 1: Acosta Show and the author of the New York Times

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Speaker 1: bestseller The Enemy of the People. A Dangerous time to

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Speaker 1: tell the Truth in America, Jim Acosta, I.

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Speaker 3: Molly, good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. We have to start by talking

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Speaker 4: It is one of life's great mysteries, and they're all

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Speaker 1: There are no Mitt romney's, there are no John McCain's.

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Speaker 1: But there are Max Millers. And there are Max Miller's

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Speaker 1: And Moreno, did not come forward until after Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're all waiting for the deer leader to

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Speaker 3: They would have to get that.

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Speaker 4: They would have to get Max Miller around the clock protection,

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Speaker 1: She can only do what she can do with reality.

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Speaker 4: It's true, no, and listen, I mean, this takes us

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Speaker 4: back to sort of the post January six days, when

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Speaker 4: there was this distinction between what the Trump people could

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Speaker 4: say in front of the cameras on TV and on

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Speaker 4: cable networks and lie about the election, but when they

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Speaker 4: go into court, they can't lie as much because there

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Speaker 4: would be consequences legally for themselves, essentially losing their law

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Speaker 4: licenses and so on.

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Speaker 3: And I think Judge Denin.

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Speaker 4: Piro said, you know, I'd rather have my box of

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Speaker 4: wine and my law license as opposed to just my

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Speaker 4: box of wine. I think maybe that's what happened there.

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Speaker 4: But the other thing too, Mally, And I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I've just started to think about this, you know how

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Speaker 4: you and I and many others have had this you know,

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Speaker 4: conversation about there's Earth one and then there's Earth two

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Speaker 4: and Earth one is the normal Earth, and Earth two

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Speaker 4: is the Donald Trump Earth, where lies are truth and

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Speaker 4: truth are lies. I wonder now if there's an Earth

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Speaker 4: three and Earth three is. We don't know what the

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Speaker 4: fuck to do as a country with the president who

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Speaker 4: is in such cognitive decline that he can't really formulate

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Speaker 4: a sentence, an intelligent sentence anymore. It's that capacity is

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Speaker 4: gone now. And just yesterday in the Oval Office, he

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Speaker 4: was going from one thing to the next on a rant,

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Speaker 4: and he was he couldn't say eighty six forty seven,

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Speaker 4: so he was saying things like eighty seventy and so

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Speaker 4: he just like, so, I don't know, I almost feel

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Speaker 4: like we've been moved.

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Speaker 3: From Earth two to Earth three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we and as a country, we don't know

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Speaker 4: what to do about that, or I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: many of us know what to do about it. We

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Speaker 4: have a Republican party that simply won't do it. We

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Speaker 4: have the John Cornyn Republican Party, right, And I.

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Speaker 1: Also think, look, you know, there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: reporting on the state of Joe Biden, eighty one year

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Speaker 1: old Joe Biden, that he was not sharp, that he was,

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Speaker 1: and then there was that unbelievably bad debate performance. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got it. You know, he decided not to run

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Speaker 1: again the poll showed he wasn't going to win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Donald Trump, eighty years old making decisions that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, even on his worst day, would never be

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Speaker 1: of making, right like numerous form wars. Imagine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, still talking about Greenland and how he's going

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Speaker 1: to go for Greenland. I mean, this is the kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff that any other president, even if it were

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Speaker 1: someone who was sharp as attack, would be in a

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Speaker 1: lot of trouble for Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can't just write one book about this.

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Speaker 4: It would have to be many books. It would have

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Speaker 4: to be like a trilogy. At this point of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: you know, going off the deep end, and you know,

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Speaker 4: to me, I just think that Joe Biden was one thing.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is having one of these episodes where you know,

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Speaker 4: where he's basically saying, we killed Medicare. He's doing that

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Speaker 4: just about every day now, and he's almost doing it

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Speaker 4: multiple times a day, and in the way and this

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Speaker 4: is what I mean about Earth three and the way

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Speaker 4: that he's worn us down over the years with truth

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Speaker 4: being lies and lies being truth and so on, and

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Speaker 4: people feel like that's a fire that's one fire hose,

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Speaker 4: the fire hose of lies. Now we're getting the fire

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Speaker 4: hose of dementia, and we don't know what to do

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Speaker 4: with the fire hose of dementia. And that's a totally

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Speaker 4: different that's a horse of a different feather. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know, you know until I mean, you know, he

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Speaker 4: thinks that he can win the Iran war in the

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Speaker 4: way that he wins his golf tournaments at Bedminster where

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Speaker 4: the caddy dumps he the ball out of his post.

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Speaker 1: He just wanted, gimmy, just win his thirty fourth or some.

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Speaker 4: Crazy number he did, I know. And it reminds me

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Speaker 4: of Bill Murray, Candy Shack, you know Cinderella story, you know,

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Speaker 4: coming out of nowhere, the groundskeeper, you know.

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Speaker 3: Hits the golf It's a miracle, he was.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing the line right, but no, but I

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Speaker 4: think that, you know, he's wishing that the caddy that

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Speaker 4: Pete Hegseth would dump a golf ball out of his

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Speaker 4: pocket so some way he could win the war in Iran.

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Speaker 4: And there have been stories like they're they're looking for ideas,

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Speaker 4: they're looking for new thinking outside the box ideas on

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Speaker 4: how to win the war to Iran, and apparently Reuters

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Speaker 4: was reporting that we've depleted our missile capacity, much of

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Speaker 4: our long range missile capacity or something along those lines.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, it's this is a fuck up.

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Speaker 4: This is a big, old, you know, industrial sized, Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump sized fuck ups.

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Speaker 1: Who could have seen that the man who bankrupted all

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Speaker 1: the casinos would be just so terrible at being president,

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Speaker 1: even though the last time he was president he killed

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Speaker 1: lots of his supporters by telling them not to wear masks.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why he's been focused on, like

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Speaker 4: building a helipad and putting new grass in at the

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Speaker 4: White House and changing the columns and things like that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's dawn on him. He's also bad.

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Speaker 4: At the big things, like maybe running a pandemic is

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Speaker 4: just not his thing. Well, mag winning awards just not

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Speaker 4: his thing.

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Speaker 1: And Maggie Haberman said that when she was in the

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Speaker 1: White House, all he was interested in was the real

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Speaker 1: estate and that's it.

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Speaker 3: And but he's not even good at that. He's not.

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Speaker 3: He's basically and Molly.

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Speaker 4: You know this being a New Yorker, he's good at

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Speaker 4: slapping his name on shit.

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Speaker 3: He's good at marketing.

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Speaker 4: Things to people that have disposable amounts of money, and

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Speaker 4: not so disposable amounts of money, as it turns out

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Speaker 4: in many cases like crypto, and but that his specialty

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Speaker 4: has always been being sister and being a guy who

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Speaker 4: pulls a fast one, and that just ain't good enough.

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Speaker 4: And why were we learning this lesson all over again

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Speaker 4: a second time round. I have no idea, but we're

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Speaker 4: getting that. In addition to somebody who is really in

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Speaker 4: the sunset in the twilight of his twilight zone days,

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Speaker 4: it seems to be.

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Speaker 1: Yes in the twilight of his twilight zone days, Jim Acosta.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Tacy Young is the founder of the Justice Connection. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Fast Politics. Stacy, Hi, who are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Can you explain to us what you do, what your

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Speaker 1: organization is, and how you got there? Sure?

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Speaker 5: So, I was at the Justice Department as a lawyer

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Speaker 5: for almost twenty years. I resigned shortly after the inauguration

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Speaker 5: to launch and organizations to support the OJ employees. That

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Speaker 5: was the second Trump inauguration, Right, Brat, you had seen

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Speaker 5: the writing on the wall and you knew things were

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Speaker 5: going to get rough. Yes, I am not a cheery,

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Speaker 5: optimistic person in the best of days. And I took

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Speaker 5: what Trump was saying on the campaign trail and during

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Speaker 5: the transition very seriously and his stated intentions to attack

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Speaker 5: the federal workforce. And I knew DOJ employees would be

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Speaker 5: particularly vulnerable because there was only one agency that investigated

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Speaker 5: and convicted him, So I knew it was going to

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Speaker 5: be a real bloodbath. And I looked around and tried

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Speaker 5: to find kind of organizations that were gearing up to

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Speaker 5: support federal employees, especially a DJ, and I just didn't

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Speaker 5: see any. So I ran an organization inside DOJ for

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Speaker 5: years to support employees. And I thought. I felt like

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Speaker 5: I was going to be a target in particular, and

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Speaker 5: I knew that many others would be targets. So I thought,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to leave and try to start an organization myself.

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Speaker 1: Did those people need your protection?

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately I was very prescient. My worst predictions have come

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Speaker 5: to fruition, and they have absolutely needed protection, and everybody

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Speaker 5: can protect them. Like one of the things I did

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Speaker 5: about a week before I left the department was they

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Speaker 5: wrote not Been in the New York Times calling on

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Speaker 5: all Americans to support DOJ employees and that was kind

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Speaker 5: of a call to action, and launching the Justice Connection

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Speaker 5: was an answer to that call. So, you know, we

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Speaker 5: have provided the support that we heard from them that

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Speaker 5: they needed. We launched a probone illegal network. We have

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Speaker 5: over two hundred and fifty lawyers who are now representing

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Speaker 5: them when they need legal representation, if they're under investigation

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Speaker 5: or getting fired, or need ethics advice. We have a

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Speaker 5: mental health support network because as Russell voche said he

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Speaker 5: was going to put federal employees in trauma. We've an

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Speaker 5: employment support network for employees who get fired or just

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Speaker 5: need to leave. We provide media trainings so people who

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Speaker 5: do leave can start speaking out, and we speak at ourselves.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've launched a number of huge advocacy campaigns.

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Speaker 5: We've been in national media outlets over three hundred times.

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Speaker 5: At this point, we've become kind of the voice of

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Speaker 5: the career DOJ workforce.

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Speaker 1: Now we are here and Todd Blanche he wants a promotion.

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Speaker 1: Tell us why you don't think Todd blanch should have

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Speaker 1: that promotion and just specifically why.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, from day one he has made it

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Speaker 5: clear that his client is the President and not the

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Speaker 5: United States. I mean, as DOJ lawyers all know, you know,

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Speaker 5: we would walk into court and say, my name is

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Speaker 5: Stacy Young. I represent the United States. Todd Blanche represents

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Speaker 5: the President, and that attitude infuses everything he does. It

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Speaker 5: infuses the IRS agreement he entered into, It infuses the

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Speaker 5: slush fund, It infuses his erasure of accountability for January

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Speaker 5: sixth defendants. It infuses his vindictive prosecutions, It infuses the

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Speaker 5: fact that he has pushed out almost twenty thousand DOJ

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Speaker 5: career employees, and it infuses every court order he violates,

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Speaker 5: every judge he attacks, and every way he has assaulted

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Speaker 5: the rule of law. This is unprecedented at the Department.

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Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like this, and the rule of

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Speaker 5: law frankly can't survive if the primary institution enforcing it

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Speaker 5: has been corrupted.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us an example of something that a

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Speaker 1: normal AG would do versus something that Tom Blanche has done. So,

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Speaker 1: a normal Attorney General would ensure that prosecutions are brought

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Speaker 1: against individuals because they break the law, and because the

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Speaker 1: laws that they break in the way that they break

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Speaker 1: them is a priority for the Department to pursue. A

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Speaker 1: normal AG would not pick up the phone, when the

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Speaker 1: president calls and say, Okay, I am going to.

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Speaker 5: Investigate and then prosecute this enemy.

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Speaker 1: You have so give us an example of who he's

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Speaker 1: done that with. He's done that with Jim Comey now

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Speaker 1: at least twice. He's done that with Letitia James. He's

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Speaker 1: done that with John Brennan and the Southern Poverty Law

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Speaker 1: Center and Jack Smith, and the list goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: When the president is able to, especially frankly unhinged president

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Speaker 1: like this one, when a president is able to use

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Speaker 1: the Department as a sword and a shield for that matter,

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Speaker 1: that means that none of us are safe.

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Speaker 5: That means that you can be a good citizen and

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Speaker 5: follow the law, and if you speak out against this

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Speaker 5: president you can still be prosecuted. That is not a

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Speaker 5: system in which the rule of law is working, and

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Speaker 5: that's a system in which we should all be very scared.

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Speaker 1: Republican senators like John Cornyan have said there's nothing they

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Speaker 1: can do to reign in the president. They're voting a

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Speaker 1: two committee. There's nothing they could do. But since you

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Speaker 1: know the law, what could they do if they wanted

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Speaker 1: to do it? What could these United States senators do? Well?

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Speaker 5: As a starting point. They could vote against Todd Blanche.

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Speaker 5: You know, some of the statements we've heard coming from

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Speaker 5: John Cornan in the last day or two are nonsensical,

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Speaker 5: where he's a, well, you know, I got this slush

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Speaker 5: fund in IRS agreement adjusted a little bit. That's all

651
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Speaker 5: I can do. No, what you can do is not

652
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Speaker 5: vote for the guy who has been responsible for so

653
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 5: much corruption and so many affronts to the rule of law.

654
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Speaker 5: You don't need to vote for him. But in addition

655
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Speaker 5: to that, they can start issuing subpoenas to Justice Department officials.

656
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: They can still start highlighting these abuses. They can have hearings,

657
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Speaker 5: they can put their foot down and exercise the oversight

658
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Speaker 5: responsibilities that they have.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying they could subpoena the assistant of Todd

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Speaker 1: Blanche and find out when he called when he put

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Speaker 1: through a call to Donald Trump. The assistant to Todd

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Speaker 1: Blanche could say, you know, we put through a call

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Speaker 1: from the White House, and then right afterwards Todd Blanch

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Speaker 1: asked me to do I mean, right, isn't there documentation

665
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Speaker 1: for all this stuff?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? There sure is, And they could absolutely issue subpoenas

667
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: to get that information and they are refusing to do that. Now,

668
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: of course Donald Trump could pardon anyone who might be

669
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Speaker 5: at risk of perjury, but you know, let.

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Speaker 1: Him do it.

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Speaker 5: Do it anyway, Do everything you possibly can. It is

672
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Speaker 5: supposed to be a coequal branch of government. Use the

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Speaker 5: power you have to reign in a renegade justice department.

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Speaker 1: You could do hearings, you could do subpoenas, you could

675
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Speaker 1: make a case to show the American people what to

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Speaker 1: what we all know Todd Blanche is doing what's been

677
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Speaker 1: reported to have Todd Blanche doing. But in a hearing,

678
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Speaker 1: we will have people like actually up there being like, no, no,

679
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Speaker 1: this is what he did. Why do you think Republicans

680
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Speaker 1: aren't doing this?

681
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Speaker 5: Because they're showing the same fields due to the president

682
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Speaker 5: that Todd blanches. And it's pathetic and it's dangerous, and

683
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 5: they refuse to acknowledge what they all know, which is

684
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Speaker 5: what happened. Is happening, is appalling. It's making us less safe,

685
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: it is making our rights more vulnerable. It's going to

686
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 5: make our elections less secure, it's going to make our

687
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 5: economy less strong. The damage that's being done and the

688
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 5: risks they're creating really can't be overstated, and like you said,

689
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Speaker 5: they should be having hearings every single day. We recently

690
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Speaker 5: worked with Senator Booker's office to put on a shadow

691
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Speaker 5: hearing where we had people talk about the Epstein files,

692
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Speaker 5: about illegal terminations of career employees, of the slush fund,

693
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Speaker 5: of the IRS agreement. It was a really powerful hearing.

694
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Speaker 5: Our communications director Peter Carr, who Todd Blanche fired directly

695
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Speaker 5: because he was the spokesperson for the Jack Smith team.

696
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Speaker 5: He testified about his termination and what it means that

697
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: DOJ lost his decades of institutional knowledge. This stuff is

698
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 5: just being ignored by Congress. It's not just that they're

699
00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: destroying institutional norms and implementing completely horrific priority. They're breaking laws,

700
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Speaker 5: and if Congress doesn't care about the laws that it passed,

701
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Speaker 5: they're going to continue doing it.

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Speaker 1: There are options here for hearings, but they are also

703
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Speaker 1: there's stuff here that's happening like the DOJ just because

704
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Speaker 1: the DOJ they just control the federal courts, they don't

705
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Speaker 1: control the state courts. So if people are breaking the law.

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Speaker 1: For example, here's a good example, New Mexico is trying

707
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Speaker 1: to get these unredacted Epstein files so that they can

708
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Speaker 1: do an investigation in Tasarro Ranch. So far the DOJ

709
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Speaker 1: has not released them. What could New Mexico do to

710
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Speaker 1: get those files?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, New Mexico can go to court

712
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Speaker 5: and the court can issue orders and those orders are enforceable.

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Speaker 5: In addition, the New Mexico state bar con sanction attorneys

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Speaker 5: who violate state bar.

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Speaker 1: Rules even if they work for the DOJ.

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Speaker 5: Sure, oh, absolutely so. DOJ lawyers are absolutely bound by

717
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Speaker 5: state bar rules, and I should mention on that point.

718
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Speaker 5: This Department of Justice proposed a regulation that would mean

719
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Speaker 5: that state bars cannot sanction DOJ lawyers. I mean, think

720
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Speaker 5: about what that means. That is creating a special exception

721
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Speaker 5: for DOJ lawyers to violate ethics rules. Why why would

722
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Speaker 5: you do that? If? I mean, DOJ lawyers should be

723
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 5: held to higher ethical standards than anybody else because they

724
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 5: wield enormous power. But this DOJ is so hooked on

725
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Speaker 5: this unitary executive theory that they think state bars can't

726
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Speaker 5: touch us. You know, we rule so, I mean, you

727
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 5: see so many examples of this. But there are things

728
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Speaker 5: states can do. I mean, there are supremacy clause issues.

729
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Speaker 5: It gets a little kind of complicated about what exactly

730
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Speaker 5: states can do with respect to federal the you know,

731
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Speaker 5: the exercise of federal power. But certainly state bars until

732
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Speaker 5: this rules finalize at least can absolutely sanction or does

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Speaker 5: bar DOJ lawyers.

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Speaker 1: Is this rule going to go through for sure?

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Speaker 5: No, So the rule and comment period ended already. So

736
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Speaker 5: now the rule is under consideration by the things that

737
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Speaker 5: by the administration, by the executive branch. So we'll have

738
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Speaker 5: an answer in a few months, maybe a year. You know,

739
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Speaker 5: we had a big campaign a Justice Connection to get

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Speaker 5: people to submit comments during the notice and common period.

741
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Speaker 5: I think over a million one point two million people

742
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Speaker 5: file comments during the notice and comment period, which both

743
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 5: like expresses how outraged people are by this, but it'll

744
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Speaker 5: also probably have the effect of slowing it down at

745
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 5: the very least. But it's just one of the many

746
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 5: things they're doing a DOJ and across the federal government

747
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 5: to you know, insulate political officials from you know, consequences.

748
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Speaker 5: They also recently promo an issue to proposed rule to

749
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Speaker 5: require federal employees to sign NDAs, which is an obvious

750
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: to attempt to you know stififule whistle blowing, which is

751
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: has never been as important as it is. Right now,

752
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, some of the information we know about DJ,

753
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: some of the corruption we know about, the abuses we

754
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 5: know about came from DOJ whistleblowers, and you know they

755
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 5: have whistleblower rights and we need them. It's part of

756
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 5: how our democracy works. And this, you know, administration wants

757
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: to shut that down. They want to intimidate people and

758
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 5: to stink by it, think silent. And there are people

759
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: inside who are the only people privy to information that

760
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: we all deserve to know. So one of the things

761
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: we do as an organization is support whistleblowers. We help

762
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 5: them blow the whistle, We help them go to reporters

763
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 5: because traditional whistleblower avenues have really been choked off by

764
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: this administration. So you know, there are safe ways to

765
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Speaker 5: still do it. And I'll just put in a plug.

766
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Speaker 5: If any DOJ employees are out there and have information

767
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: they want to share, you should come to us and

768
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 5: we can help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worths realizing that this stuff is totally unprecedented,

770
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Speaker 1: but it's also a lot of it's not lead.

771
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Speaker 5: Goal right, A lot of it is not legal, but

772
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Speaker 5: unfortunately a lot of it is DJ After Watergate implemented

773
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: pretty strict guidelines internally to make sure that the kind

774
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Speaker 5: of corruption we witnessed in the seventies under Nixon wasn't

775
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 5: going to happen again. But those guidelines are not codified

776
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 5: in law. There are no enforcement mechanisms. A lot of

777
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: them are contained in what's called the Justice Manual, which

778
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 5: is kind of like the Bible and DOJ that all

779
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 5: lawyers and agents and others follow. But if you violate

780
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Speaker 5: the Justice Manual, if you kind of you know, break

781
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 5: down the institutional guardrails, there's nothing that anyone can really do.

782
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: I mean, DOJ works when people running it act in

783
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Speaker 5: good faith and uphold ethical standards, and this administration has

784
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: shown that it's unwilling to do that.

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Speaker 1: So it's more norms and less laws, which is a

786
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Speaker 1: problem you've seen again and again with this administration. That's

787
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Speaker 1: a far more concise way of putting it exactly. It's

788
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Speaker 1: interesting to make Todd blanche actually did work in justice, right,

789
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Speaker 1: and can you talk about sort of his history and

790
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: why what he's become is so shocking.

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Speaker 5: This administration and people within it, I generally find to

792
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 5: be pretty transparent and easy to figure out. Todds has

793
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: a real mystery to me. I mean, he was a

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Speaker 5: prosecutor in the Southern District of New York for almost

795
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Speaker 5: ten years, and you know, we work with a lot

796
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Speaker 5: of his former co workers, and people respected him and

797
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: liked him, and he seemed to have a moral compass,

798
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: and he understood what the DOJ norms were and he

799
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 5: followed them. So, you know, his weird path to DOJ again,

800
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 5: where he left his firm and decided to represent Donald

801
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 5: Trump exclusively during the Biden administration and now his complete

802
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 5: like you know, weird sicko fancy and elevation to the

803
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 5: top is hard to explain. He knows what the rules are,

804
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 5: he knows what the norms are. He knows how to

805
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 5: do that job. I mean, you could argue, well, Pam

806
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: Bondi was brand new to the department. She didn't know

807
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 5: how worked. He knows how it works. He knows that

808
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: everything he's doing is contrary and offensive to the norms

809
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 5: that keep DOJ upstanding. And you know, he's been willing

810
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Speaker 5: to trample on everything the department is always stood for.

811
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Speaker 5: So it's it's really puzzling what is motivating him other

812
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Speaker 5: than just like a desire for power. I mean, I

813
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: don't want to psycho analysts him, but I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Else because he really does know better, and I think

815
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Speaker 1: the point of him knowing better is really important here.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, is there anything people can do?

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Speaker 5: I mean, right now, you know Todd Blanche got out

818
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: of committee this morning, There's still going to be a

819
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: floor vote. It's you know, it could happen in a

820
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Speaker 5: few days. Call your senator. Even if you think that

821
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: you know exactly how your senator is going to vote,

822
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 5: Call your senator to let them know that you care

823
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 5: about the rule of law. This is offensive to it

824
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 5: and you want to see your senator, regardless of where

825
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: they fall on the political spectrum. You want to see

826
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 5: your senators do more to check this out of control

827
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 5: Justice Department. So I really encourage you to call or email,

828
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 5: just let your position be known. There's still time and

829
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 5: there are still a few senators who's position on this

830
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Speaker 5: we don't know, So this is not a done deal yet.

831
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Speaker 5: It could really help for everybody to reach out.

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Speaker 1: Stacy, Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And also I should mention you should visit us

834
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Speaker 5: at the Justice Connection dot org and follow our stubs back,

835
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Speaker 5: which is just justice connection.

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Speaker 1: No moment Jesse Cannon, Miley, John Fast So it's time

837
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Speaker 1: for our moment of buckery.

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Speaker 2: But backbencher report style. Have you ever heard of Representative

839
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: Chuck Headwards? Because I'm going to be real, that's one

840
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Speaker 2: of the ones I just went who Anyway, the Ethics

841
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Speaker 2: Committee does not like that he was messing around with staffers.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had the statistics for how often the

843
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Speaker 1: Ethics Committee has found.

844
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Speaker 2: Yeahs basically stopped stop fucking.

845
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Speaker 1: Your staffers, right, I mean I think it's only happened

846
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Speaker 1: like twice, like most of the time, maybe three times,

847
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Speaker 1: like most of the time. The Ethics Committee is like,

848
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Speaker 1: you good, You're good. You know, it's a victims crime.

849
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Speaker 1: So the fact that they found there was substantial reason

850
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Speaker 1: to believe Representative Edwards violated House rules related to sexual

851
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: harassment and hostile workplaces is amazing. Okay, it's amazing. There's

852
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: a crazy number of these cases have been you know

853
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Speaker 1: that the Ethics Committee is just fine with because remember

854
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: the Ethics Committee is made up of other members of Congress, right,

855
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: so this is like, this is like internal affairs, right.

856
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Speaker 1: I want to just point out something about this story.

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Speaker 1: It is. I read the whole story yesterday and and

858
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Speaker 1: it is so gross, and the parts of it that

859
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Edwards turned over to the committee. He's just so creepy.

860
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Speaker 1: And you know, it's like that yellow dress was burned

861
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: into my brain. He did puzzle, you know, a puzzle.

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Speaker 1: Come with me to this, like creepy, weird. He's sixty five.

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Speaker 1: These staffers are in their twenties and thirties. He's been

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Speaker 1: married since nineteen eighty. He says none of it's romantic.

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Speaker 1: He sent one staff for thirty pints of ice cream.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like super gross and even like

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Speaker 1: he he made a plan to go with a staffer

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Speaker 1: somewhere and then sent her flowers and she wrote back,

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Speaker 1: I hope you know this is not romantic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like he you know he Both women received gifts from him,

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Speaker 1: including jewelry designer, pursus guns because he's a Republican, shoes, flowers,

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Speaker 1: a laptop and his cell phone, a KitchenAid mixer, a

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Speaker 1: robotic vacuum, vacations, tickets to performances, and one on one dinners.

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Speaker 1: One of the staffers felt she was obligated to wear

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Speaker 1: a necklace that Edwards gave her. The congressman told her

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Speaker 1: he was disappointed when she did not wear it. It

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Speaker 1: is so uncomfortable. He paid for spot treatments to discussed

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Speaker 1: going to strip clubs in DC. Directed one of the

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Speaker 1: staffers not only to notify Edward's schedulers about a dinner

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Speaker 1: the pair had planned. He bought one of the staffers

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Speaker 1: to a holiday event at the White House and told

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Speaker 1: her he wanted the night to be perfect. He pressured

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Speaker 1: staffers to continue the evening with him and asked her

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Speaker 1: to travel too and from the event with him in

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Speaker 1: his car. It is so incredibly gross, and I want

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Speaker 1: to point out this the first time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time the Ethics Committee has recommended

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Speaker 1: censer since it took action against former Representative Charlie Wrangell.

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Speaker 1: You'll remember Charlie Wrangell. He's dead, unfortunately in twenty ten. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it is now sixteen years later. Okay, they never find

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Speaker 1: anything wrong, So the fact that this is happening is insane.

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Speaker 1: Edwards is, of course, just like Max Miller running for

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Speaker 1: reelection in North Carolina's eleventh congressional district against Democratic challenger

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Speaker 1: Jamie Ager, who will be on this podcast. I promise

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Speaker 1: you we will have him on this podcast anytime he wants,

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Speaker 1: unless he's a lady, in which case we.

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Speaker 5: Will have her.

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Speaker 1: The committee report complicates Edward's past to victory, as I

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Speaker 1: hope we all do agree, this fucking person should not

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Speaker 1: be a member of Congress anymore. Tom tillis who is

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Speaker 1: on his trying to come back campaign, and said if

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Speaker 1: the bipartist An Ethics Committee has acknowledged that there was

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Speaker 1: some wrongdoing, I think it's going to be problematic for

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Speaker 1: his campaign. So brave Tom tillis, so brave. That's it

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