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Speaker 1: Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: You know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I do. And actually I'm gonna need producer Dave's help

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Speaker 1: on this one. Okay, okay, So producer, have you ever

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Speaker 1: heard of the Shrie Chin Moy self Transcendence thirty one

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Speaker 1: hundred mile race. Sure? Well, I've heard of Sree Chinmoy,

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Speaker 1: but I have not heard of the right. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: this thing, I mean, I shouldn't say it's ridiculous, but

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous to me. Because the only way you're getting

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Speaker 1: me to run a thirty one hundred mile race is

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Speaker 1: a race. It starts at six am to midnight, that's

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Speaker 1: how long it runs. And it's a competition that lasts

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Speaker 1: for fifty two days.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's the longest road race in the planet.

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Speaker 1: And it takes place in New York City, of all places,

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Speaker 1: in Jamaica, Queens. You're supposed to run this mile like

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Speaker 1: until you reach self transcendence. Apparently for thirty one hundred miles.

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Speaker 1: You're running around New York City for fifty.

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Speaker 2: Two days, just on a track.

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Speaker 1: Every day for fifty two days, you get up and

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Speaker 1: it's insane. And apparently this is like enough of a

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Speaker 1: practice that you can get to self transcendence. And for me,

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Speaker 1: once again, you would need the gun. But you know, apparently,

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Speaker 1: so is this something you do as a runner? Is this?

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Speaker 1: such a deep state of transcendence. Now I can't forget

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Speaker 1: any of it. Yeah, you've moved on to a whole

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Speaker 2: If someone was behind me with a gun, I just

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Speaker 2: be like, all right, do it. Shoot, I'm not running

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Speaker 2: thirty one hundred miles. I'll just you know, give me

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Speaker 2: the sweet release of death. That's ridiculous, right. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to know what else is ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Girl?

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Speaker 2: Do I ever stealing a heart? A saint's heart? This

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous crime? A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers.

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Speaker 2: Heisen cons it's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent ridiculous. You don't get to hog all

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Speaker 2: the stolen body part stories, zaren what I'm one in

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Speaker 1: All right, have some fun? What do you guys?

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Speaker 2: I have stolen body part stories of my own. You

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Speaker 2: know what. I'm my own woman. This one isn't grave robbing.

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Speaker 2: There's no brain in a jar, which I can say

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Speaker 2: that thanks to you. If I see anything about Einstein now,

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Speaker 1: So thanks for that, Jars, You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: The story I'm going to tell you. My brother in

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Speaker 2: Christ is about a relic. Relics are important in a

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Speaker 2: lot of religions, like the physical remains of a holy person. Sure,

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Speaker 2: Catholicism is the biggest purveyor of this, but other flavors

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Speaker 1: Buddhism is big on it. I thought it was just

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Speaker 2: People hear about relics. You know, they're being recognized more

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Speaker 2: I say to those people. Now you're fast today, I

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Speaker 2: I can confirm that intel. Even so, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, So a church altar cannot be consecrated without a relic?

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Speaker 1: Like like I once had a three D relic? No,

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Speaker 2: then the the pope's shoes, the holy loafers. Third degree

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Speaker 2: That's organic matter. That's sweet, that nasty, that gushy stuff

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Speaker 2: that was so gross and inappropriate of me. Maya culpa?

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Speaker 2: to be struck down for everything I do today. That's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. The second degree is like when someone tells

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Speaker 2: famous Daniel. You're like, I don't know, damn Daniel. Extending

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Speaker 2: this metaphor, third degree is like if you tell someone

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the time Tire Banks was across the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, well, you tell people I had lunch

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Speaker 1: Tyre and I were like, here.

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Speaker 2: We were at lunch.

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Speaker 2: So to sum up first degree is if you had

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Speaker 2: you kept it in your karate bag. The second degree

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Speaker 1: Okay, so so like Paul's red sweat on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, things went bad and he lost by yeah. Third

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Speaker 2: about that and a bunch of other stuff. Third degree, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he like steals your dad's snacks from the work fridge

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Speaker 1: What a guy.

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Speaker 2: Where there was I relics?

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Speaker 1: Our degree relics.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a relic to have a church, basically,

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Speaker 2: and the relic doesn't need to be associated with the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, most Catholics have no idea what relic was used

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the notion was that the pilgrim could

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Speaker 2: Broaden it out, cast a wider net because if you

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's so much saren, there's so much miles to think. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also your understand things like how to make fiery.

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Speaker 2: And I'd be like a foot taller exactly, bones and

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Speaker 2: And they'd be like, you said it, lady, I do

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Speaker 2: the Lord, but I'm also doing it for the cloud. Passeup.

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Speaker 2: So we'd catch a boat in Brighton, we'd make our

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Speaker 1: Hey, like roadside attraction churches.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. They'd be like nine flavors of beef jerky.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, let's go Vegas host in France totally,

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Speaker 2: whole pokemon catch them all things, you know, Like I

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Speaker 2: want to peep all the relics. So if a church

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Speaker 1: There's really our roadside attractions. Oh yeah, but you're trying

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Speaker 2: If I like one of those caps with a feather

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Speaker 2: that cotton candy. So foot traffic equaled cash. So it

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Speaker 2: paid not just spiritually but also financially to have a

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Speaker 2: good top shelf, qute relic on display. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: have three tales of stolen relics for you. Today's erin.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah it is. Oh yeah. All of them took

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Speaker 2: place within a year of each other, and all of

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Speaker 2: them took place in Ireland. Ah, we'll start in Tipperary.

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Speaker 2: It's a long way to Tipperary, you know, I do not.

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Speaker 2: It's also a long way to the top. If you

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Speaker 1: I took the low road, you can take the high road.

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Speaker 1: I'll meet you.

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Speaker 2: And we're in Tipperary, near Cashell, to be exact. So

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Speaker 2: there's a monastery there called Holy Cross Abbey. It gets

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Speaker 2: you can say Holy Rude, that is kept there. The

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Speaker 2: say the true Cross. So I guess that would be

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Speaker 2: like one of the pieces.

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Speaker 1: From the back, well, you know, maybe it was like,

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Speaker 2: I think we would have him tap in. I got

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Speaker 2: to say that there are a lot of supposed pieces

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't the church I grew up.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like if we gathered them all up

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Speaker 1: I think it would reach the moon. I think that

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Speaker 2: So big it would be a hundreds.

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Speaker 1: Oral Roberts you to talk about like large crosses, I think,

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Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say here is I question the

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it.

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Speaker 2: That's between me and the man upstairs.

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Speaker 1: This is why it requires faith.

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Speaker 2: Well, and when I say the man upstairs, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: And they just like put one of those floppy dancing

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Speaker 1: Out in front, and they like a donkey walking in

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. People came from all over to lay eyes

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Speaker 1: Oh, someone stole it, so it got burned down.

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Speaker 2: No, Oliver Cromwell happened.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is something bad.

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Speaker 2: He invaded. He and his goons occupied Ireland for nine

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Speaker 2: months in sixteen fifty, but the Parliamentarian conquest of Ireland

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Speaker 2: went on for like another three years. Meanwhile, the abbey

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Speaker 2: fell into complete disrepair. The relic was saved, though monks

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Speaker 2: The building, they're like, you know what, it's a total loss.

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Speaker 2: Let's just.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 2: It does, okay, sure, yes it does.

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Speaker 1: Was it a dirt were they pulling the stones up

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Speaker 2: They it all just crumbled and they all stuff out

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Speaker 2: of the way. The walls crumbled, and.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, just put spooking Bob died. We can

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Speaker 1: put him here exactly.

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Speaker 2: So in eighteen eighty the Irish government declared it a

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Speaker 2: national monument, and that was just for preservation. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: sixty nine, so they invented the moonwalk. They sent like

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Speaker 2: a gift basket basically to celebrate this arrangement. No, they

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Speaker 2: sent two authentic relics the Holy Cross as part of

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Speaker 2: the restoration. Wow, They're like, I see you're one and

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Speaker 2: I raise you too.

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Speaker 1: Wow, double down on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they give them three.

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Speaker 1: Now they got the Trinity of Holy Cross. You know,

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Speaker 2: The three exactly. So all these fragments of the Holy Rude,

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Speaker 2: they're kept in a steel cabinet in the church. You

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Speaker 2: gotta be safe. Then, in late September twenty eleven, the

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Speaker 2: keys to the cabinet were stolen bump bump. The church

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Speaker 2: was security minded, of course, and so they had the

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Speaker 2: locks changed. Are you relieved, Not entirely, No, so don't be.

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Speaker 2: On the evening of October eleventh, twenty eleven, three men

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Speaker 2: arrived at the church in an suv. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: as you do.

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Speaker 1: Two of the men some hard core praying to do well.

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Speaker 2: Two of the men they walk in, they've got their

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Speaker 2: faces covered balaclavas. You're like, m that's not really.

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Speaker 1: It was a cold night and they had some hardcore

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Speaker 1: praying to do it exactly.

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Speaker 2: They were only in there for a few minutes, but

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Speaker 2: they made those minutes count.

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Speaker 1: They prayed quickly.

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Speaker 2: They used an angle grinder, a weed grinder, they used

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Speaker 2: to hammer, perhaps a thermal lance everywhere.

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Speaker 1: The pole jack is also a good call.

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Speaker 2: And at the very least they used a screwdriver to

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Speaker 2: do it. And what they managed to get into the case.

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Speaker 1: It's like Nike.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they exactly, they just did it. So these thieves

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Speaker 2: in the night, they made off with the three fragments

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Speaker 2: of the One True Cross, the piece originally presented to

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Speaker 2: the Church in the eleven hundreds. The two fragments supplied

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Speaker 2: by the Vatican.

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Speaker 1: Just had a curiosity. If you're going to steal parts

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Speaker 1: of like the True Cross, it doesn't matter if you're

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Speaker 1: a believer or not. Who are you planning on selling that.

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Speaker 2: To such a good question.

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Speaker 1: The person's like, hey, I want to buy stolen Cross.

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Speaker 1: You're like, you're not a Christian. I'm imagining. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't you know. Then I imagine non Christians

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Speaker 2: But these these pieces, they weren't just like sitting in

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Speaker 2: a dish. They inside the case. Yeah, you know, the

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Speaker 2: original fragment was in a very elaborate at silver cross

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Speaker 2: that's called a monstrance, and that was that was in

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Speaker 2: the fourteenth century that that was created. And then the

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Speaker 2: other two fragments they were in a cross shaped container

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Speaker 2: called cruciform, and that was made of golden bronze.

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Speaker 1: We're talking like a tiny iron maiden. Yes, a cross,

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Speaker 1: that's okay.

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Speaker 2: So the men left with their loot and they drove

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Speaker 2: to a neighboring town. They did what I always do

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Speaker 2: when I'm visiting a neighboring towne. No, they pulled off

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Speaker 2: the road and they set the car on fire.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, right, that is what you always do every

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Speaker 1: time so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Travel, I go through cars like you would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I am not doing any more

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Speaker 1: business traveling. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: So witnesses said that they saw a sedan speeding away

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Speaker 2: from that scene was pretty obvious to the cops or

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Speaker 2: as they called them, the guardy. At the end, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't take anything else.

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Speaker 1: They're burning cars.

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Speaker 2: Well, the relics are priceless and there's not a way

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Speaker 2: to move them, so there's no spy. I can't put

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Speaker 2: them up at the flea market. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: what are you going to.

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Speaker 1: Do with what Russian billionaire? You're selling your stolen monet too.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, by the way, I got some true

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Speaker 2: So the parish, they're devastated, they decided, we're just going

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Speaker 2: to pray on it. You know what, what else can

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Speaker 2: they do?

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Speaker 1: They put their trust you know what are you going

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Speaker 2: Jesus take the wheel. They put their trust in the

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Speaker 2: Guardian hope for the best. Three months later, the GUARDI

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Speaker 2: are these your relics? And they were there. They were

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Speaker 2: the two large crosses containing the missing fragments of the

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Speaker 2: True Cross. The GUARDI had been investigating this theft NonStop.

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Speaker 2: They did stakeouts, they searched Hill and Dale, and somehow

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Speaker 2: they recovered the missing relics and how it was something

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Speaker 2: that they didn't want to share. They didn't want to

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Speaker 2: tell how they did. We searched and searched and we

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Speaker 2: found them. Everyone's like, where how like, don't worry about it?

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't cops just don't ask any more.

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Speaker 2: Christ Like, guess what the relics they're undamaged. They required

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Speaker 2: some more cleaning. So now I really want to know

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Speaker 2: did you find these things? As to these thieves? The

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Speaker 2: last report state no arrest had been made, So somehow

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Speaker 2: they find them the church.

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Speaker 1: This raises so many The.

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Speaker 2: Church gets them back they create a more secure display.

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Speaker 2: No one was arrested, so I'm not sure if the

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Speaker 2: perpetrators were like quietly arrested because there's no public announcement

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Speaker 2: of it, or if they got away with it. But

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Speaker 2: I do know that they're in a world of trouble,

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Speaker 2: both in this one and the next.

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Speaker 1: Dude, seriously, but also, like I guess, it's just like

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Speaker 1: the all things with the church, you had to take

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Speaker 1: it on faith, like this happened, Like okay, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to suspend disbelief. Certainly, I'm with.

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Speaker 2: You, So why don't you suspend your disbelief and we'll

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Speaker 2: take a break and then we come back. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you about another relic theft that raises the

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Speaker 2: stakes a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Heck yeah, Zaren Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about the relics that are fragments of the

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Speaker 2: True Cross, the Holy Rood, and we know that body

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Speaker 2: parts sometimes fall off and then they fall into the

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Speaker 2: category of first degree relics.

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Speaker 1: We do know this.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk body parts now. You always I

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Speaker 2: want to talk shop.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, let's talk politics. You're like, can we talk

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Speaker 1: body part?

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Speaker 2: We talk about body parts, but first let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the owner of the body. Meet Saint Brigid Hi Brigid

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Speaker 2: Hi Bridgide. Saint Bridget of Kildare is the mother saint

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Speaker 2: of Ireland. All right, there are three national Irish saints, Brigid,

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Speaker 2: Patrick and Columba and Columba. Bridgid was born in four

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Speaker 2: fifty one.

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Speaker 1: I was just a girl then, Yeah, you were like seven,

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Speaker 2: Anyway, her mother was apparently a picked slave and her

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Speaker 2: father was a chieftain. Now it should be said that

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Speaker 2: there is scholarly dispute as to whether she was even

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, because.

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Speaker 2: Like Bridget is also the name of a Celtic goddess,

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Speaker 2: and so Bridget the goddess is associated with poetry, animals, protection,

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Speaker 2: but so is Saint Brigid. Basically, Saint Bridget had all

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Speaker 2: which is in Bulk that's also the Gaelic festival that

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Speaker 2: marks the beginning of spring.

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Speaker 1: So they just crafted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know that the Catholic Church often incorporated indigenous

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Speaker 2: she was like a voltron saint of just all these pieces.

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Speaker 2: And so, according to historical accounts, Saint Bridge's mom was

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Speaker 2: chieftain's wife made her husband sell Brigid's mom to a druid.

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Speaker 2: That sounds super funny, but it's not, but it also

441
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: still sounds funny.

442
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: Druid.

443
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: So she was born into slavery to this druid. He

444
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 2: tried his best to take care of her, this is

445
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: a bridgid. When he would try and feed her, though,

446
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: she would just barf on him because he was so impure.

447
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: She's like, I can't eat that, you're dirty.

448
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't want these roots and tubers.

449
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,239
Speaker 2: He's like, he'd give her pop tarts and she just

450
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: like spew them back out, no worries.

451
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: You know what.

452
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: She didn't starve to death though, because there was this

453
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 2: white cow with red ears nearby who came over and fetter.

454
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 2: That happened to me once.

455
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: It's like okay, like Ronny this and remiss with the

456
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: wolf them, and they're just like, oh yeah, he get

457
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 1: fed by an animal.

458
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 2: When it was me. I was so hungry and the

459
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: cow just like I just wanted to give up. The

460
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: cow comes up, hands me a Luna bar, just like,

461
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: hang on, girl.

462
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: You can make it. Come do this here, climb on

463
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: back and enjoyed it.

464
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: So as she grew up, Bridget started performing miracles. The

465
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: great thing about her miracles is that they pretty much

466
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: just involved her giving away other people's stuff, like.

467
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: The Robin Hoood of miracles.

468
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not even that, Like so she gave

469
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: away all her mom's butter.

470
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh it's not even like rich people, just like someone

471
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: close to me.

472
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then like so she's like, you know what

473
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: have the butter?

474
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: The mom's like, wait, what miracle? Miracle one.

475
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: I've worked so hard on turn my arms are exhausted,

476
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: and Britt it's like hold up, watch this and like

477
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: praise and praise more butter appears.

478
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 1: Oh so the real miracle was the replacement, but it's

479
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe it is actually better.

480
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: So after the butter incident, she was sold back to

481
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: the chieftain. Her father.

482
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: Wait, do we know about more of her miracles?

483
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, you're gonna find out.

484
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.

485
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're like get rid of this butter thief. Like,

486
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: here you take her. And she's like ten years old

487
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: at this point. So the dad welcomes her back in

488
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, you know what, my long lost daughter.

489
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: Now you're my servant, you know as you do.

490
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: So wait, the dad, not the druid, the chieftain.

491
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: So they're like the druid and the mom or like,

492
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: she's just destroying our butter and wanton. Yeah, she's get

493
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: her out of here. She still performed miracles though, so

494
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 2: she would go around donating all of the chieftain's stuff

495
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: all the time, like, oh you're you're cold. Here have

496
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 2: this amazing fur jacket.

497
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: It took him like three seasons to colloct all this.

498
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: You'll love it well.

499
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: And the chieftain he's getting irritated because all of his

500
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: belongings miraculously wind up in the hands of others. So

501
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: he takes Bridgid to the to this king. He's like, hey, buddy,

502
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: you want to buy my daughter. She's miraculous. The King's like,

503
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: got like a good deal. So they're like negotiating a price.

504
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: But while they're haggling, Bridget gave away the chieftain's sword

505
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: to a beggar so that the guy could go buy food.

506
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: And then the king and the chieftain they stopped and

507
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: stared at Bridgid, like, is this the end for this

508
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: charitable last? No, the king was so impressed with her

509
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: holiness that he convinced the chieftain to just let her go.

510
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: So I love that. The King's like, she gave away

511
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 2: your sword, that is so holy, you should give just

512
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: give her away.

513
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: This is such a low bar for holy, but giveaway butter. More,

514
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: butter appears, give away someone else sword. This is like

515
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: the father Guido sard with the like I heard those

516
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: of his miracles were card tricks.

517
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: Yes, So she becomes a nun. She founds a monastery,

518
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: which just so happens to be located right on top

519
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: of the pagan trying to Bridget the Celtic goddess what Dan.

520
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: She helps craft this religious life for women in Ireland.

521
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: She created a center for learning and killed are that

522
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: later became a cathedral. She was pals with Saint Patrick.

523
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: They kick around chasing snakes, drinking green beer.

524
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I like him because he has an anti snake policy

525
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: and I'm about that.

526
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: Wow, did you know that Bridget and Patrick they invented

527
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: green plastic shamrock necklaces. A lot of people don't know that.

528
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little known fact. Well, thank you for sharing.

529
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: You're so welcome. When she died, a priest administered her

530
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: last rites. The interesting thing is that his name Saint

531
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: Nina of the Pure Hand. How did he get such

532
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: a cool names? Serin?

533
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: He was fast with that hand.

534
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 2: Well, he had his right hand encased in metal so

535
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: that it would be always clean and pure.

536
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: Wait what huh? He had his hand encased in metal,

537
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: so he had molten metal.

538
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Okay, so it's like early germaphob stuff.

539
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: I wonder how hygienic this was, because like, either he

540
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: dipped his hand in molten metal and the flesh underneath

541
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: was just one big infection, or he had a hand

542
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: built out of metal.

543
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: He had to have the handled out of metal.

544
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: Your hand.

545
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: We used it at the risk and fall.

546
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: All right, But let's say they like he makes it,

547
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: and they like they fuse it onto him, like they

548
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: lock it on. But those of us who have worn

549
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: plaster casts for broken bones. Know just how ripe those

550
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: get after a while itchy. So maybe the hand was

551
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: clean and pure on the outside, but it was just

552
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: like humming inside, and no one wanted to stand down

553
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: wind of him.

554
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, no, that's holy, bro, just go over there

555
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: with your holy hand. It is holy.

556
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 2: So he did last rites Back to bridget Here are

557
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: some of her miraculous greatest hits. Right, she turned water

558
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: into beer.

559
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm giving her.

560
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Probably while she was hanging out with Saint Patrick. Is

561
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: that right. She fell off a horse and hit her

562
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: head a mirror.

563
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: That's not the mirror I've done that miracle.

564
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: She started bleeding and a young mute girl walked over

565
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: and touched the blood, which creepy. Get away from there, No, no,

566
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: don't touch that. But then the girl suddenly starts talking.

567
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: She like touches it. Oh, what's up? And then like

568
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: she had so much to say, She's like chatterbox.

569
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: Got like nine, here's a pent up words.

570
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: But the blood healed her. Bridges blood was magic juice.

571
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read that, you know, why not?

572
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: No? So there was some story about a silver brooch

573
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: that was tossed into the sea and then a fisherman

574
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: caught a fish and they found the brooch inside the fish,

575
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: and then someone was freed from something. I couldn't figure

576
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: it out. I gave up. Anyway, she poked her own

577
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: eye out.

578
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: That was such a fast one.

579
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: She did it despite someone.

580
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: Wait, that's not how that works. It is.

581
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: There wasn't any water around, and her brothers were like

582
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: freaking out because they wanted to rinse out her eye

583
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: and try and save it.

584
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, all right, okay, go on.

585
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: So she tells him like, here, take my walking stick

586
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: and just shove it in the ground and a stream's

587
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: gonna appear.

588
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: And then they're like, put your eye on here.

589
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they do it, and then it did, like

590
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: a stream comes out.

591
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And then she told.

592
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: The dude that she like to spite the guy that

593
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: was messing with her. Guess what, dude, your eyes are

594
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: going to burst in your head. And they did. Saren wait,

595
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: I thought her, Oh yeah, I know her eye was

596
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: messed up.

597
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm so just all sorts of eye damaging.

598
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: The guy's castling her. She shoves it the stick in

599
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: her eye and was.

600
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: So wait, she just get this in the correct order

601
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: from my understanding. She takes the stick, shoves in her

602
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: own eye, hands it to someone, says, put that in

603
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: the ground, is going to come out. It does, and

604
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: then she's like, that's not enough. I'm going to make

605
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: this guy not be able to see anything.

606
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, she splashes in her eye like she's in like

607
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: a high school chem lab, gently brushing it up into

608
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: her eye, and then she says to the guy, now,

609
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: guess what your Her.

610
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Eyes heeled, but yeah, okay, and then moment your eyes.

611
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: Are next, pal And what I love is she said

612
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: they're gonna burst.

613
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: In your head, and then they, like Steven Spielberg burst

614
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: in her head like Indiana.

615
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: Jones at the end of Guys, I'm gonna start telling

616
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: people that your eyes are going to burst in your head.

617
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: It might happen. So Bridget she's a certified saint.

618
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: And she's a saint. Hello, I guess the forgiveness was

619
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: a big part of this two.

620
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: She was doing it for forgive me. Well, okay, so

621
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: she dies, she's a saint. Her body parts are spiritually valuable.

622
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

623
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: She gets buried in Kildare Cathedral in five twenty five.

624
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: In eight seventy eight, Scandinavians were raiding Ireland.

625
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: Damn right, we were so rude.

626
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: So her remains were moved quick's they take.

627
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: Them to they did Linda's far and move it, move it.

628
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: They take her to down Patrick Cathedral and they reburied

629
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 2: her with Saint Patrick ansying columbu. Oh they're just like yeah,

630
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: gangs a pile of holy bones eleven eighty six. The

631
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 2: remains of all three were transferred to down Cathedral in

632
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty eight. The relics were desecrated during the horrific

633
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Tutor conquest of Ireland, except for Bridget's head. That is okay,

634
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: So some monks took her head and fled to Austria.

635
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, yeah.

636
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: And then about fifty years later, in fifteen eighty seven,

637
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: her head was taken to Portugal. Like she just went

638
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: on the Grand Tour.

639
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Her head is really getting some some land.

640
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Under the front of her skull is still kept there

641
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: in Portugal.

642
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: They separated the front from the back of someone else's.

643
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: Got we got the back of her skull either.

644
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: Just chip No. Eighteen eighty four, the Cardinal Archbishop of Sydney.

645
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: He got one of her teeth from a church in

646
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: France and gave it to some nuns in Melbourne.

647
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, so some dude in Australia. He's in France.

648
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: He's like, let me break off a two.

649
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, break me off some I got. I

650
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: got some gals back home.

651
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they love this.

652
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: And then he's like, I got you guys something from

653
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: my trip.

654
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look it's it too, yeah, and then.

655
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: Like a friendships. In nineteen twenty eight, the Bishop of

656
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: Lisbon he granted a fragment of Bridget's skull to Saint

657
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Bridgid's Church in Kilester, which is just outside of Dublin. Sure, okay,

658
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: so he's like, you guys love her here, let me

659
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: just cracks a piece off.

660
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Well, namesake for y'all.

661
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: No, it's kind of like those Eastern hollow eggs, big

662
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: chocolate hollow eggs, and you just crack pieces off.

663
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with that.

664
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this brings us to our second Irish RELICI.

665
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: Are you, guys, say, using like a tiny holy hammer

666
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: to break these off? Like how are you doing that?

667
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: Are you just like putting it on the offer and

668
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: giving a good waytll toffee hammers? You know?

669
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: Like here's you ever try to break something doesn't evenly

670
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: go break you get out like, hey, hand me that

671
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: meat tenderizer.

672
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: What is I am going to hell after doing this?

673
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: But we're gonna get a good seating there.

674
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: So second Irish relic hest Okay, January thirtieth, twenty twelve,

675
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: so it's just a few days away from Saint Bridget's

676
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: Day of the Saint.

677
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: I love that they were able to keep all these

678
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: relics safe from like the Tudor rays, the Viking rage

679
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: and then twenty twelve comes around modern era.

680
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: So uh, they still observe Saint Bridges's Day in Ireland

681
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: and at Saint Bridge's Church where that piece of her

682
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: skull can be found. It's a big deal, obviously, I

683
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: bet so the skull relic. It's attached to a cruciform

684
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: and kept in a reliquary, a metal box with little

685
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: double doors on the front. It's decorated with this really

686
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: distinctive Celtic design on the front and the sides. On

687
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: January thirtieth, sometime between noon and three, it disappeared.

688
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Oh I thought they bring it out to let everyone

689
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: look at it.

690
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Just someone just came in and walked out with it.

691
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: Would this ruin Saint Bridge's Day.

692
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: No, no, couldn't.

693
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: The relic itself had been removed from the reliquary just

694
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: days before as part of general maintenance. So the thief

695
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: or thieves made off with the reliquary with no relic inside.

696
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: They stole the box.

697
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: They stole the box like they were in the back,

698
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: like polishing up the piece of skull. Meanwhile they're like,

699
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: what tiptoeing out with a big box.

700
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: You don't know, maybe they just want to steal the box. Well,

701
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: what I like, that's a sexy box. I need that, and.

702
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: It's like got Goldie melted down. What I love is

703
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: that Saint Bridges's Day went ahead as planned, and that

704
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: parish priests said they didn't intend to say any special

705
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: prayers for its return, because that's how Saint Brigid would

706
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: have wanted it. She gave stuff away. There's no way

707
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: she'd cary about a fancy box.

708
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: I caught that. I like it. I like it. It's

709
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: very in the spirit of Saint Bridge.

710
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the trail gets cold here for us, as

711
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: there's no indication that the reliquary was ever located. I

712
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: couldn't find anything about it. After the thought, oh.

713
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: It really did get Saint bridget it away.

714
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you go to the church website, they

715
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: have a story about how they got the relic, but

716
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: not the relic theft, And there's a picture of the reliquary.

717
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: So whether it was returned or maybe they had another

718
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: one made, who knows.

719
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: So what did they do with the bone fragment?

720
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: Got a new box for it?

721
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: I hope I got like a glass sided one.

722
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very brigid ending to that tale in

723
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: the material goods just don't matter to the believers of

724
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Bridgid's power anyway. I promised you three relic steps. Yeah,

725
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: you like the three leaves of the Shamrock Trinity, or

726
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: the three Stooges of Columbia Pictures, or the three parts

727
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: of the Health Triangle Physical, social, and mental ah, or

728
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: the three films of the Godfather trilogy.

729
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Very good, Yes, very nice.

730
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: When we come back from this break, I'll hit you

731
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: with the big one. It's a story with a lot

732
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: of heart.

733
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: Oh and Jack.

734
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: Zarin, Elizabeth, let's talk all right?

735
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Am I in trouble?

736
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: No, you're not in trouble. I'm talking in big trouble.

737
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: Saint Lawrence O'Toole he was born in County Kildare in

738
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: eleven twenty eight.

739
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: Ah.

740
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, there was another Catholic school in our diocese

741
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: growing up called Saint Lawrence O Tools Slot, and we

742
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: always referred to it as Slot.

743
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: I think they did too.

745
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: We heard about it. That made it, and I'm saying

746
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: it made it out of your dioceses to Duff, to us,

747
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, county Away. We were like, oh yeah, we

748
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: know about Slot.

749
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so Slot anyway, Slot, the dude. He was an aesthetic.

750
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: He wore a hairshirt.

751
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh I thought he meant like he was like, he

752
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: had a whole vibe. He was an athetic, don't tell

753
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: you he was. He was an energy.

754
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: He was. He wore a hairshirt, he never ate meat

755
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: and he fasted regularly, just your average laed aspiring actor.

756
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: Am I right?

757
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: That one didn't come out very.

758
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: No, it almost landed somewhere.

759
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a vibe. So he's just trying

760
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: to make it in Hollywood.

761
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: Slot, I understand. Don't fall for that, Zaren, Why would I?

762
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: He was a monk and he was appointed abbot at

763
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: the age of twenty five.

764
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: That's ambitious. Yeah, So while he was there, super into it.

765
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's he's like all about this.

766
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: I just let this guy do it. He's making everyone

767
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: look bad.

768
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: So when he was a monk, there was this local

769
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: highwoman from a royal family.

770
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: Oh you're thinking like a like a bandit, like a highway.

771
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: Woman, you know, Like, yeah, it is a bandit and

772
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: maybe not like you know Willie Nelson highwaymen.

773
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Christopher.

774
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Soon he was a bad guy from a royal family.

775
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: He's going around and killing men and defiling women and

776
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: robbing clergy, just keeping everyone in terror.

777
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought it was a highway woman.

778
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: No, anyway, slot heard about this. He didn't get angry. No,

779
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: he got sad, really really sad.

780
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: Made his hair shirt weep.

781
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So he went into the church and he

782
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: began to fast. I mean, who could who could eat

783
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: at a time like.

784
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to fast about it?

785
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: So he prayed over and over for God to save

786
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: his people, and pretty soon the highwayman was captured blinded

787
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: by a group of guys, and then he died, I mean,

788
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: just on his own I.

789
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Guess, so is that God's will?

790
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: So then another time the area was under attacked by

791
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: a gang of thieves. So one day this group ran

792
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: up on a procession carrying consecrated eucharistic hosts, and thieves

793
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: attacked the people and then took the hosts and smashed

794
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: them in their mouth, smashed them up like cookie monster.

795
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they basically stole.

796
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: Jesus pretty much.

797
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: They stole them ris So they stole They've been.

798
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Consecrated, and they were just like cracking up like me,

799
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: love Body of Christ, spraying it everywhere.

800
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: This is horrible.

801
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: It was disgusting. Slot jumped into action, and by that

802
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: I meant he went to go fast and pray again.

803
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: But he didn't go alone this time. This time he

804
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: brought the clerics into his church to pray with him, NonStop.

805
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven prayer party. People just going hard

806
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: at it.

807
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Oh, let's about it.

808
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: So soon enough the gang was captured by servants of

809
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: the king and hanged within sight of Lawrence's church. Okay,

810
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: once again, so he's he was familiar with the thieves,

811
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 2: and those thieves getting their comeuppance. It should be noted

812
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: that Slot never prayed for vengeance.

813
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I was wondering because I'm like, no, it's like Jesus

814
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: going ahead, man, get them. That's up.

815
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: He prayed for liberation, which is what we all should

816
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: pray for. So according to him, it was God's choice

817
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: to deal out the vengeance, and he in God took them.

818
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: He liberated them from the mortal corps.

819
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and his people were liberated from the terror.

820
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: As the Archbishop of Dublin, he was known for his discipline,

821
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: his generosity to the poor, and his skill and negotiations.

822
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: So he died in November of eleven eighty in Normandy, France,

823
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: and he was canonized in twelve twenty five because of

824
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: miracles that were said to have happened in his tomb.

825
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: Oh really funny business. In fourteen forty two his skull

826
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: was brought to England, but then it disappeared during the

827
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: Protestant Reformation, and then it popped back up where it

828
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: was originally in Normandy, and it's still there today. His skull.

829
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

830
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: At some point his heart was separated from the rest

831
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: of his body and brought to Christ Church Cathedral in Dublin.

832
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: That was it, in case, in anything, it's just.

833
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: Organic that I don't know when it in transit, what

834
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: it was like, if it was just like wet in

835
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: a sack, I don't know. It's kind of dry at

836
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: that point.

837
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: I suppose they pickled it, or they did so.

838
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Christ Church Cathedral is interesting because it's now an Anglican cathedral.

839
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: It's the seat of the Church of Ireland and Dublin. However,

840
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: the Vatican says that Christ Church is the rightful seat

841
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: of the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, but the Archbishop

842
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: of Dublin uses Saint Mary's Cathedral in Dublin as his

843
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: acting cathedral, so it's like leftover back and forth from

844
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: the Reformation. Either way, Slot's heart is kept at Christ's

845
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: Church Cathedral. The Anglicans, they aren't as relic heavy as

846
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: the Catholics, but they can you know, they can still

847
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: get down with a little bit. They like to boogie

848
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: through the old body boogie zaren I was wondering. I

849
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: want you to picture it. It's March twenty twelve, Dublin,

850
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: Christ Church Cathedral. You've got a good job cleaning the

851
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: cathedral and testing out its acoustics. It's evening time and

852
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: just two worshippers remain in the pews, mouthing their silent prayers.

853
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: You quietly whistle as you dust the stone sills under

854
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: the Great stained glass windows. You let out a little fart.

855
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 2: You can't help it. You had four bowls of granola

856
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: for lunch. You blush and head over to grab some

857
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: beeswax to polish some of this wood and maybe mask

858
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: the scent of your little tutor. You realize you actually

859
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: have to use the bathroom. That was just a warning shot.

860
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: You rush to the exit, the heavy doors of the

861
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: church thudding behind you. We'll give you some privacy as

862
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: you rush to the church offices in the bathroom therein,

863
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: but I can say that you were in there for.

864
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: A while, so I'm going to use some prayer time.

865
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you are. When you emerge, it's been two hours

866
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: and it's pretty late, you quickly lock up the doors.

867
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: In your head, no more granola for you. What you

868
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: didn't do is look inside the church, like really look around.

869
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: Those two worshippers you saw in there, those weren't actually worshippers.

870
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: They were thieves, zarin thieves. Once you locked everything up

871
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: and it was nice and silent, they made their move.

872
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: There's a little side chapel in the cathedral that's dedicated

873
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: to Saint Lawrence Otool, and the chapel is an iron

874
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: cage bolted to the wall. I need to note that

875
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: on the perpendicular wall is a very strange painting of

876
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: maybe Jesus. I'm going to put it on Instagram along

877
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: with some other pictures of the scene, just to make

878
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: it all clearer for you. But this is like a

879
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: sensual Jesus, your own sensual Jesus.

880
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Really, he looks like he looks like a.

881
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: Pretentious kind of wanna be poet hipster who's just emerged

882
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: from the shower with a towel around his waist, and

883
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: he's like waxing ineloquent about how people don't appreciate beauty anymore.

884
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: That's kind of what it looks like. So there's an

885
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: iron cage bolted to the stone wall. Inside that iron

886
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: cage is a wooden heart shaped box, which you've been

887
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: in for a week. That heart shaped box is chained

888
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: to the wall with a big old iron chain. Inside

889
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: that wooden heart shape box is the heart of Saint

890
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: Lawrence Otol. The thieves crept into the side chapel. They

891
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: cut open the bars, probably with a thermal lance, if

892
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: I had to guess, and they pried the bars apart,

893
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: probably with a ratchet, if I had to guess have

894
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: you mentioned on here how annoyed you get that? I

895
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: call most tools ratchets.

896
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: No, never once mentioned it.

897
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: Anything that goes that's a ratchet.

898
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: Get me a ratchet.

899
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: Anyway, The thieves cut the chain attached to the heart

900
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: shape box, and off they went with that heart shaped box.

901
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: They had a new complaint and were forever in debt

902
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: to your priceless advice.

903
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: There's some super Nirvana fans.

904
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Get this song in your head. They didn't steal anything else.

905
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: They didn't take the gold candlesticks and the chalices that

906
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 2: were like right there. They didn't touch anything but the heart.

907
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: They just cooled out until morning time. And then there

908
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: you are, Zaron, refreshed after a good night's sleep, opening

909
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: the doors of the cathedral to all visitors, and without

910
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: setting off any alarms, and having not needed a force

911
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: entry or exit, they strolled right on out into the

912
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: lovely Dublin morning. So they hit out all night. As

913
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: you walked through the cathedral, you noticed something strange. The

914
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: two piece candles on the altar are lit, and you

915
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: could have sworn they were out when you left last night.

916
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: So you shrug go about your business. Soon enough, though

917
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: it's discovered that the heart is gone. A church spokeswoman

918
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: released the statement they specifically targeted this. They wanted the

919
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: heart of Laurence so tool like you think anyway, So

920
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: this was a major crazy heist. What could you possibly

921
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: do with that heart? Like you'd have to be a

922
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: believer to take it.

923
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Um, I could put it on eBay and sell it

924
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: turned a huge Nirvana fiac.

925
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Like you couldn't sell it since it's such a specifically

926
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: Irish relic. I don't think there's interest from organized crime

927
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: outside the island.

928
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not. I'm thinking only fans taking it

929
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: out of the context of the church and then turning

930
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: it into like Kurt Cobain wrote about this, by the

931
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, like I think, then I could really get

932
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: some money.

933
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: Well, so the heart's gone, the iron cage is empty.

934
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: Years go by six to be exacted and then a break.

935
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: So the guardie DC Pickles on the case recovered the

936
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: heart in Phoenix Park in Dublin. The park is huge,

937
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: by the way, the President's residence is there. That's Michael D. Higgins.

938
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I have met him. I almost almost killed him at

939
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: the un by mistake. I ran into him, like literally

940
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: ran he's really short. I came faster, you know, I

941
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: walked fast. I came around a corner all a sudden,

942
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: I ran over the in the the The security couldn't

943
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: even get to me. That's how quick I got to him. Yeah.

944
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Any way, So yeah, he's a cool guy.

945
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: He's super alright. He's got that adorable dog that he

946
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: takes everywhere.

947
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is super cool, and he has

948
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: a poet's heart. He does.

949
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: There's also his zoo.

950
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: He also forgave me, he did.

951
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a zoo in the park. There are monuments, gardens,

952
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: there's a lot of deer. There are deer in the lawns.

953
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: Woody Glenn's, there's a fort I'm just telling you all

954
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: about Phoenix Park. The police wouldn't give specifics as to

955
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: where in the park they found it or how they

956
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: came to know to look there.

957
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: How They never want to say no, they never do.

958
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: They just said it was following a quote intelligence led investigation.

959
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: The investigations own a way was that we can't comment

960
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: on it. You have the item, Well, we still can't

961
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: comment on it.

962
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: Leave it to the tabloids to spill the dirt. Nice

963
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: they get to the heart of the matter. Excellent, Enter

964
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: the Irish Daily Mail. Yes, it's owned by the same

965
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: parent company as the British Daily Mail. I was wondering, So,

966
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: you know the Daily Mail. They'll pay for information and

967
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: use all sorts of crooked methods phone. Oh totally, well,

968
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: I think that's disgusting. I'm here to share with you

969
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: what they found.

970
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

971
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: So, come to find out a quote well known criminal

972
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: and a relative of his are suspected of being behind

973
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: the theft. The guard he heard from an anonymous member

974
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: of the traveler community that the culprits were willing and

975
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: able to return the relic. Here's a side note about travelers.

976
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: They're often called Gypsies, which is not correct. They have

977
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: no relation to the Roma people. In Gypsy is a slur.

978
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: They are genetically Irish going back, but they split off

979
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: so severely in the sixteen hundreds that they're becoming genetically

980
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: distinct from the rest of Ireland.

981
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: So they are a subpopulation of Irish that have always

982
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: been Irish and they don't have the Roma population, no connection.

983
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: They speak English or sometimes a language called Shelta, which

984
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: is a mixture of English and Irish, and they're generally Catholic,

985
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: they're widely discriminated against. They work a lot with dogs

986
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: and horses and deal in scrap metal. Think the Guy

987
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: Ritchie movie Snatch, or the Shelby family and Peaky Blinders.

988
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: So a member of the traveler community got in touch

989
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: with the cops, and the thieves wanted to return the heart. Wow,

990
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: that's they reached out. Why it seems the men who

991
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: stole it thought it brought bad luck.

992
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: I like it.

993
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: It's really bad luck to steal a saint's heart. Multiple

994
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: family members of theirs had died from heart issues since

995
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: they stole the heart.

996
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Whoa, the face.

997
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: I just know six years of myocardial infarctions could have

998
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: been avoided in their families, But no, they had to

999
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 2: steal a heart.

1000
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: That's the way that makes me go.

1001
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Whoa, I know seriously, this is like, now, this is

1002
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: why I'm afraid. What's going to happen to me? After

1003
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: tell all these jokes?

1004
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Did you steal these jokes?

1005
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Yes? It turned out that these two guys had been

1006
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: arrested shortly after the heart was first stolen, but they

1007
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: were released because they didn't have enough to.

1008
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Hold the Oh. Interesting.

1009
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: There's no word on whether they were re arrested upon

1010
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: the drop off of the Heart in the park. Maybe

1011
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: the fuzz thought they'd already paid the price.

1012
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: So I think they paid a pretty steep price.

1013
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. So those are my three relic thefts for you.

1014
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: What is your ridiculous takeaway?

1015
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get a a hand, you want to

1016
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: make sure it's something that other people go, oh, man,

1017
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: you got that stankhand because I hadn't thought about that.

1018
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I considered a metal hand. I had never considered that,

1019
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, like.

1020
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: You don't want to have ability?

1021
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: Dude, looks so cool. Everyone be like, oh, look at there,

1022
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: you got the bejeweled hand, And all of a sudden,

1023
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, when I walk away, they're like, did you

1024
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: smell that hand? I know, you gave me a lot

1025
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: to think about it, which is ridiculous.

1026
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: That's what I try.

1027
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1028
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: That's it for today. That's all I have one. Thank you.

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00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,359
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