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Speaker 1: Wow, Good morning, swimmer World, and welcome to the Nodunk's

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Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, October twelfth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, and you've just fired up part three of

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Speaker 1: our five part NBA season preview series.

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Speaker 2: I'm j E.

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Speaker 1: Skis here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, he

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Speaker 1: just got out of the battery. It's tasks.

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Speaker 2: It took four ever, it cost me one thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: but I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Next to him. We got the bearded one, Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 1: he O Yo and over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is, and here we are.

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Speaker 1: Fun time down at the baseball stadium.

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Speaker 2: It goes with my man sab Yet in the Terrapin

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Speaker 2: tap room. It was fun. I pulled a maneuver though

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Speaker 2: leaving early, and uh I missed a three run jack

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Speaker 2: to bring it to within one. It reminded me of

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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen Falcons Panthers when we were visiting at Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: US hardcore sports guys. We left, leaving j D and

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Speaker 2: Matt to watch a great comeback.

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Speaker 3: Field goal.

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Speaker 1: It disgusting.

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Speaker 2: It didn't seem like it was gonna happen. So it

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Speaker 2: felt like I may have left early Game one of

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Speaker 2: the NLDS, but everybody else was leaving, and I was

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Speaker 2: one of them because you know why, it's hard to

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Speaker 2: get out of the battle.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it, So you leave when they're down

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Speaker 1: seven to three. They scored three at seven to six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Maddio Madio as I was calling him Matt Olson.

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Speaker 2: It's hard not to call him Mattio. Matt Olsen hit

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Speaker 2: a three run jack And there's so many what ifs,

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Speaker 2: so many what ifs in that game. But they can

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Speaker 2: bounce back. They lost game one last year of the NLDS.

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Speaker 2: They'll be back, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Tie it up today, okay. Good shout out to the

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Speaker 1: got more questions here to tackle our burning questions about

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Speaker 1: the upcoming season. But we have some NBA news. Let's

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Speaker 1: sprinkle it in. First piece of news, Hornets all star

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball diagnosed with a Grade two left ankle sprain

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Speaker 1: and is expected to miss time to start the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Shams reporting this yesterday. Anything to add to this. We

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Speaker 1: slipped it in when we were talking about potential worst

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Speaker 1: records in the league and said, oh, sneaky pick might

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Speaker 1: be the Hornets. You know, LaMelo had just tweaked his ankle.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know the extent of it at that time.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna probably miss a couple weeks, maybe longer if

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Speaker 1: they really want to slow play it and go for

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Speaker 1: a high draft pick. Any thoughts, I know.

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Speaker 2: You guys are in the camp that the longer it goes,

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Speaker 2: the more the tank job begins. Leave that if he's

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Speaker 2: out like win wins the line. Like if he's out

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Speaker 2: a month, that's a good chunk of the season.

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Speaker 4: Totally Yeah, And I can certainly see the Hornets saying

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Speaker 4: take your time, little buddy, Just make sure you're one

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Speaker 4: hundred and ten percent healthy before you come back. That

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Speaker 4: being said, the schedule for the Hornets to start the season,

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Speaker 4: it's not Terrible, Spurs, Pelicans, Hawks, Nicks Magic. Then you

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Speaker 4: it'll get him off to a head start in the

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Speaker 4: tank race. But I don't know, it's just an ankle sprain.

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Speaker 4: He ain't gonna be out for all that long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just such an odd turn from LaMelo's rookie

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Speaker 2: And I'm a little a little upset because we were

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically like going to the battery here

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Speaker 2: So I would I would have loved to see a

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Speaker 1: I don't want to drive to Charlotte to watch Dennis

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Speaker 1: Smith junior man the point because that could be happening.

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Speaker 1: in theory, they're still going to be very, very bad.

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Speaker 1: But this's just they're worse without him, of course on

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Speaker 1: the floor. I mean they are a rough team, so tough,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just a brutal, brutal summer for Hornets fans.

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Speaker 1: It just got worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's very strange because, like Tassa saying, you

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Speaker 4: and you think it's been all bad for Mello since

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Speaker 4: his freshman year, freshman year, rookie year, since his rookie

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Speaker 4: year in the NBA. But the Hornets won ten more

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Speaker 4: games last season then they won the previous season, Lamello's

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Speaker 4: percentages were better. He was better last year, but the

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Speaker 4: minutes and then dipping out not really replacing anybody as well,

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Speaker 4: it's just it's gonna be a down season for the Hornets,

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Speaker 4: which is honestly probably for the best because right now

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Speaker 4: they're like a tenth or eleventh seed at the absolute peak.

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Speaker 4: That being said, if I'm looking at the Hornets and

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Speaker 4: I'm another team in the league, gimme Terry Rose here,

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Speaker 4: I would be trying to trade for him if I

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Speaker 4: were any of the other twenty nine teams. It's a solid,

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Speaker 4: game winners. He's got the confidence. We've seen him have

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Speaker 4: some solid games in the playoffs as well. So maybe

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Speaker 4: it'll be open season for the players on the Hornet steam.

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Speaker 2: That's a good call. That's good. You could pluck him

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Speaker 1: Get used to seeing a ton of potential trades involving

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Speaker 1: Terry Rosier, Gordon, Hayward, Kelly, you, Bray Junior. I would

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Speaker 1: a lot of that other news. Late last night, Steve

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Speaker 1: State's preseason finale on Friday. So he's returning to the

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Speaker 1: and you know we'll be there for opening night and

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Speaker 1: ring night for the Warriors. I know you guys aren't

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Speaker 2: Should they should have imating.

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Speaker 1: A suspension, but you didn't think it really would happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, Trey called it a secret suspension. I guess that's

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Speaker 2: what it is. I wanted a formal suspension. I think

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Speaker 2: I think it needed to be done something, something formal.

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Speaker 2: That being said, they're going to rally around the guy

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna do well. I bet I don't want

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make too much of preseason basketball,

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Speaker 2: but James Wiseman looks good. I think the young guys

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be totally fine because they want Draymond a

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Speaker 2: part of the run. Steph wants Draymond a part of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Steph Curry, this to me just kind of shows

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Speaker 4: how good of a leader he is, that he's able

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Speaker 4: Steph wants Draymond alongside him. Draymond wants to continue to

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Speaker 4: be a Warrior. And it also kind of speaks to

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Speaker 4: Jordan Poole's maturity. We haven't heard from him, but you

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Speaker 4: saw this the way he's been playing in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: He's not letting this affect him. He says he's gonna

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Speaker 4: be okay playing alongside Draymond once they get back on

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Speaker 4: had to happen. But uh, the only punishment for Draymond

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Speaker 4: was missing the end of training camp.

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Speaker 1: And fine, like yeah, and maybe hey, don't podcast yeah

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Speaker 1: please don't do that because you'll make it worse. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. Final piece of news. Some leaked

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Speaker 1: NBA jerseys. I mean, look, ninety nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: time these end up being real, right, Like, every once

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Speaker 1: in a while we see a leaked jersey from Dick's

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Speaker 1: Sporting Goods that turns out to be fake, But most

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Speaker 1: of the time they're real. And we're showing you here

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Speaker 1: on YouTube these Minnesota Timberwolves jerseys, very colorful, and then

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Speaker 1: on the right we got these you know, old school

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Speaker 1: font sort of porno style Dallas Mavericks jerseys. Trey thoughts

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Speaker 1: on either of these leaked NBA jerseys from the Wolves

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Speaker 1: and the Maps.

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Speaker 4: Apparently the Timberwolves jersey is inspired by a Bob Dylan mural.

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Speaker 4: Do people even know that Bob Dylan is from Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: I doubt it?

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Speaker 4: News to me, do people who are buying NBA jerseys

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Speaker 4: listen to Bob Dylan?

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Speaker 2: I doubt it.

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Speaker 4: This to me looks like a skiing vest from the

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Speaker 4: Olympics that you put over your team uniform. Sean White,

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Speaker 4: I could see him rock. Yeah, pretty bad. The maps

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Speaker 4: I think looks solid. I just cannot stand the neckline

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Speaker 4: they have on all of their jerseys, the wishbone from

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Speaker 4: the early two thousands.

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Speaker 3: Give me a V or a U.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't like the hy okay, but you don't

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Speaker 1: mind the look and the color.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I it ain't always class.

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Speaker 1: I sort of like that as well. Uh tasks thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Dallas solid. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 2: they all had the wishbone. Now I can't unsee. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is strange. I guess Minnesota's trying to throw everything

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Speaker 2: at the wallet. It feels like every single jersey of

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Speaker 2: theirs is very different and they don't have a uniform

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Speaker 2: color scheme or plan, and as Trey said, it's probably

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Speaker 2: it's probably time to blow it up. Although I do

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Speaker 2: like the statement jerseys from this year, the very blue

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Speaker 2: and neon green one with timber wolves written on the front.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: These ones, Yeah, maybe they'll be at music festivals. I

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Speaker 2: could see them, you know, being worn in that way.

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Speaker 2: But I know it's really strange.

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Speaker 1: Very strange, very strange. This is the mural. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's the mural. Yeah, yeah, okay, I also mural though,

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Speaker 1: yeah it is. I thought I saw someone on Twitter

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Speaker 1: Did you find this difficult to pick a team? Because

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Speaker 1: So you say disrespect because they win fifty three games

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Speaker 1: And that's prettyep pretty good good.

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Speaker 2: Along with PJ. Tucker. They've got a tude. I'm buying it.

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Speaker 4: Think about how much we talked about George Niang last year.

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Speaker 3: Here that that's the case.

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Speaker 4: Good news for the Sixers because they've just really added

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Speaker 3: I headed James Harden. James Harden. Here's here's a bold

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Speaker 4: James Harden will lead the league in assists because he'll

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Speaker 1: They know when you have Giannis that you can beat

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Speaker 2: And as Trey said about Miami, we forget that Miami

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Speaker 1: Did anyone seriously consider the Boston Celtics. Yeah, who went

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Speaker 2: Stream Team says sixty two to thirty eight that James

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Speaker 1: our next question here. We got to get our calendars out.

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Speaker 1: You got a date planner? Are you all digital?

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Speaker 1: The reason I told you to get ready, got days?

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Speaker 1: What game will Lebron become the NBA's all time leading scorer, Trey,

433
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Speaker 1: You're gonna start it because I think you're already on record.

434
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Speaker 1: You know exactly the day and the opponent is. I've

435
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Speaker 1: got the precise date. Give me the.

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Speaker 4: Quarter January thirty, first, twenty twenty three at Madison Square Garden,

437
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, eight minutes and thirty seven seconds remaining, so

438
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Speaker 4: you know if they're starting seven thirty on the East Coast,

439
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 4: give me a nine to forty seven pm Eastern time.

440
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Speaker 4: Lebron James becomes the all time leading scorer in the NBA.

441
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Speaker 4: There was some consideration given to a Bucks game that's

442
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Speaker 4: around the same time in Milwaukee, but during the preseason,

443
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Speaker 4: Lebron said he has no thoughts and no relationship with

444
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Speaker 4: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, which.

445
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Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised to you.

446
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Speaker 4: Lebron's a guy who knows his history, and obviously we've

447
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Speaker 4: heard Kareem talk about Lebron's work off the court as well.

448
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 4: Lebron is a Laker. Now, you would think there would

449
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 4: be some sort of relationship there, and if they had

450
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Speaker 4: or a relationship, I could see Lebron going out of

451
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Speaker 4: his way to make it happen in Milwaukee. But if

452
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Speaker 4: there's not, oh, there's no reason for him to do

453
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Speaker 4: it anywhere else besides the biggest stage in basketball being

454
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Speaker 4: the all time leading scorer in Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 3: That's a moment.

456
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Speaker 1: Are we gonna get like a Maris mom situation here

457
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Speaker 1: where Kareem abdul Jabbar is gonna have to travel around

458
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Speaker 1: with the Lakers for a couple of weeks as Lebron

459
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Speaker 1: gets closer. I'm serious, Seria, like Kaream adubar be in

460
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Speaker 1: attendance the night Lebron in theory passes them this season.

461
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Speaker 1: I think so the NBA would want to be there.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, MBA would absolutely want that.

463
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so when's it happening? He says, January thirty.

464
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Speaker 2: First, it is odd that Kareem, according to Lebron, they

465
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Speaker 2: don't have a relationship. But Kareem has been vocal about

466
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Speaker 2: supporting Lebron, respecting Lebron, So he'll be there their front row, Okay,

467
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: and he'll write about it. I guess maybe about it.

468
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Speaker 2: I got a little later. I got February fifteenth. I

469
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Speaker 2: guess right before the ul ser the there's a reason

470
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Speaker 2: for that. Gotta get it done so we can celebrate

471
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Speaker 2: me at All Star weekend. This is my weekend, baby,

472
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Speaker 2: I'm a leading scorer. I think it makes sense. You know,

473
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Speaker 2: I did a little number crunch. He's got a average

474
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Speaker 2: about twenty five and which which he can do in

475
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Speaker 2: his sleep, and he can miss six games to that

476
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Speaker 2: point in the season. So he's got he's got to

477
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Speaker 2: work to get to the MSG one, which he could.

478
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Speaker 2: He's looking good, he's looking ripped, he's looking he's feeling right.

479
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: So I do think. Yeah, the part of it is

480
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Speaker 2: All Star weekend. It's the weekend of brawn and.

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Speaker 1: That would be I'm not looking maybe having front of

482
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Speaker 1: the Lakers I assume are getting one of the marquee

483
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Speaker 1: games right before the All Star break type thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

485
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Speaker 1: It's the late game on TNT on the Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that well, the one, yeah, the unfortunately

487
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Speaker 2: the one I mentioned that's a Wednesday, and I think

488
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Speaker 2: that's not It could be an esp it could be

489
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Speaker 2: an ESPN. Yeah, that's a good call. That's a good call.

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Speaker 3: Pelicans.

491
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Speaker 2: It's the Pelicans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so eyes, these are great. These are these

493
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Speaker 1: are very very realistic calls here. I love the Knicks

494
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Speaker 1: one one, So I guess I didn't realize he does

495
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Speaker 1: have to he'll have to be going for basically, we're

496
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Speaker 1: talking thirty points per game to sort of get there

497
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: pretty early.

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know he can do it.

499
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Speaker 2: He did last year. Yeah, which is.

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Speaker 1: Does he do? You know what, I'll swerve. I'll just

501
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: swerve and say it'll happen after the All Star break.

502
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Speaker 1: Maybe there's some mistime in there, you know, some some

503
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Speaker 1: maybe the odd done of a game or whatever. So, uh,

504
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, I should have done my homework a little

505
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Speaker 1: better and actually given you a real date. But I'll

506
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Speaker 1: just say after a yeah later for me, and then

507
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Speaker 1: I can't be wrong. Basically, So let's have ever everybody

508
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Speaker 1: out there. That's a fun one. Lebron, When will he

509
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Speaker 1: do it? The ultimate swerve would be he won't even

510
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Speaker 1: do it, he doesn't pass.

511
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Speaker 2: Them, geez, it's gonna wait wait together.

512
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Speaker 1: Oh he wants it to be an Assists from the Sun.

513
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that game is on ESPN. Right there you go.

514
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Speaker 1: These are good, great calls here, either in Maxion Square

515
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Speaker 1: garden at the end of January, or right for the

516
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Speaker 1: All Star break against the Pelicans. We're gonna take our

517
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Speaker 1: first break when we come back. We got another awards prediction.

518
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Talk a little defense, don't go anywhere. All right, back

519
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: in the classic factory, continuing with the burning questions. Our

520
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: next one here, Defensive Player of the Year. Call your shop.

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Speaker 1: Who's winning a ten?

522
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: So bad at this, I'm so bad at predicting this one.

523
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: So you got me buying into the Draymond Green wants

524
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Speaker 2: to send a message.

525
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now more than that.

526
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Speaker 2: Now, more than ever, he's still buying it. I'm I'm following.

527
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Speaker 2: I'm following on that one here.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this. I think when it comes

529
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Speaker 1: to this award, there's like four or five realistic winners.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Smartt was a bit of a wildcard last year.

531
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Speaker 1: I've said time and time again. I think it was

532
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Speaker 1: a bit of a team award. He is really good

533
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Speaker 1: on that end. I think Robert Williams the third though,

534
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Speaker 1: just as important. Who would be on my list if

535
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Speaker 1: you were to play, But I don't like him missing.

536
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, eight to ten weeks to start season, you'd

537
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Speaker 1: have him, you'd have yoh honest, you have to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: beam out of Bio. I think has to be on

539
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Speaker 1: the list. Jowell and Bee is probably still on the

540
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Speaker 1: fringes there, and then Draymond Green and Rudy Gobert. I

541
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Speaker 1: think that's it. Yeah. I mean Kawhi, sure, but he

542
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Speaker 1: never plays enough, so no, and I am very doubtful

543
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: of guard goes back to back in winning this, so

544
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be a big guy. So yeah,

545
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: those are the guys. To me, it's Draymond and Rudy.

546
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Speaker 1: Where are you going?

547
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: I go dra M, I'm going Rudy.

548
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Speaker 1: I'm going Rudy.

549
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: Why not? I'm with you, skeets.

550
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Speaker 4: It was kind of funny to me to see the

551
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Speaker 4: GM survey come out and Marcus Smart gets zero votes

552
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: for best defender in the league.

553
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Speaker 3: Very strange they got just one defensive player.

554
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Speaker 2: Of the year.

555
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Speaker 4: Somebody should have at least thrown a bone to Marcus Smart.

556
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Speaker 4: But guess what, He's not the best defensive player in

557
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Speaker 4: the league, So no surprise there, not even the best

558
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Speaker 4: on his team.

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Speaker 3: I think it usually goes to a big guy. It

560
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Speaker 3: probably will this year.

561
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Speaker 4: Gobert is always in the mix, and he's gonna have

562
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Speaker 4: narrative on his behalf this year, because the Timberwolves will

563
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Speaker 4: surely be a better defensive team this year. They were

564
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Speaker 4: not bad last year, but it was kind of smoking

565
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Speaker 4: mirrors getting a whole bunch of steals.

566
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Speaker 3: Now they will look like will.

567
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Speaker 4: Look like a good defensive team, and he will get

568
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Speaker 4: the majority of the credit for it. So I guess

569
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Speaker 4: this will be what is fourth year? Yea, yeah, I

570
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 4: didn't win it last year, but four and five years

571
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Speaker 4: pretty again?

572
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Speaker 1: Holy crap? Yeah, I think I don't want to overthink it.

573
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Speaker 1: That's why I want to go Rudy Gobert too. It's

574
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Speaker 1: Draymond and Rudy, and I think Rudy if they were

575
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Speaker 1: what average defensive team last year and there if he

576
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Speaker 1: gets them to a top five or something like that,

577
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to ignore that, and probably his

578
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Speaker 1: importance on that.

579
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Speaker 2: The narrative. This is more. This award is more of

580
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Speaker 2: a narrative award than any other in the in the

581
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Speaker 2: award's cabinet, even more so than MVP.

582
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Speaker 1: You think so.

583
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Speaker 2: I think so because you can't measure it as well

584
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Speaker 2: as the other one. So Trey brings up the GM survey.

585
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Speaker 2: It is about who's got the rep And it is

586
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Speaker 2: somewhat about defensive metrics. It's basically which team is really good.

587
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: It's you know, a top five usually, so yeah, it's Draymond,

588
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert, Bam, Drew Holliday, Kawhi Leonard. Ben Simmons received

589
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Speaker 2: a vote, and Andrew, you's got to.

590
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Speaker 1: Vote, you're in the stream. Team. People were throwing out

591
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: an Anthony Davis if you believe in him being committed

592
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: to that end. It's another big the Lakers a couple

593
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Speaker 1: of years ago with the number one.

594
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, not long ago.

595
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Speaker 1: And then you know, then there's some fun votes. Jose Alvarado,

596
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: Herb Jones. Who else are the people saying, yeah, Marcus

597
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Smart's names being thrown around?

598
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, it does come out of nowhere, but but

599
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: but but but obviously he is amazing on that end

600
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Speaker 2: to win it all. That's very online. He's there's got

601
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: to be a real narrative that he's playing five the five.

602
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's true.

603
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Guy is the best at guarding all five positions in

604
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Speaker 2: the NBA, which he could be. He very well could be,

605
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: and he could be playing some five with the nets.

606
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Speaker 2: But I don't see it all coming together for that team.

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Speaker 1: Dp o y who you got listening to the podcast?

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00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: Later tweet out of Sat No Dunk saying, cure answers, Okay,

609
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Speaker 1: next one here burning questions, we have to include this

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Speaker 1: which coaches the hot seat is hot? Who's on the

611
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Speaker 1: hottest seat? I think some solid candidates here, Trey, When

612
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Speaker 1: do you get started? Interesting?

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Speaker 4: Interesting? I got two fellas who are sitting on a

614
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: pretty hot seat. I think Tom Thibodeau is on the

615
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: hottest seat in the regular season, but I think Doc

616
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: Rivers is on the hottest of all seats, but his

617
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 4: won't come to fruition until postseason failure for the Philadelphia

618
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Speaker 4: seventy six ers, if they come up short, if they

619
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Speaker 4: don't make the NBA Finals this year, it's kind.

620
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Speaker 3: Of hard to go forward with Doc.

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Speaker 4: I think after this season, but that takes a long

622
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Speaker 4: time to play out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tims, I think I don't know.

624
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: He's got the backing of the front office, which is

625
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: certainly important, but it feels like he's going to play

626
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: vets a little bit more than the younger guys. If

627
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: the Knicks get off to a slow start, maybe that's

628
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: a problem with the way they fought to keep Quentin

629
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Speaker 4: Grimes and r J. Barrett over the summer, so I

630
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Speaker 4: could see him kind of going kind of just you know,

631
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Speaker 4: not being completely on the same page as the rest

632
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Speaker 4: of the Knicks organization. If that's the case, he would

633
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: probably be the fall guy.

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Speaker 1: He's got like one playoff win to his name, like

635
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Speaker 1: one game he won against the Hawks there and basically

636
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Speaker 1: a five hundred record as the head coach of the

637
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Speaker 1: New York Knicks. That's his tenure. But you're right, a

638
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: slow start, like I mean really like Nash, Doc Rivers, Tibbs.

639
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: I'll throw a Nate McMillan in there. I think if

640
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: those teams start brutal, like it's like a five and

641
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: nine start or something five and ten start, and you're like, uh,

642
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: we expect to be a lot better than this, then

643
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Speaker 1: I think any four of those guys can be gone.

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00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not Doc Docy. It's an interesting one. I

645
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Speaker 1: feel like he does have the runway of the entire

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Speaker 1: season in the postseason. Those other three, though, bad, bad starts,

647
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Speaker 1: brutal starts, they're going to be gone, I think.

648
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Doc doesn't get the credit for being an

649
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: inspirational type guy like we ridicule his rotations and the

650
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: playoffs schemes and all that. But if they know who

651
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: they are, I think Doc's gonna win a lot of

652
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: games and he's not gonna be fired because they're gonna

653
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: win games.

654
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to we win the Coence, so he's

655
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna be.

656
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: He's fine, but the playoffs, it's totally fair to evaluate

657
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: what he's gonna do. TIBs definitely at the top of

658
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 2: my list right here, right now, because they were good

659
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: two years ago. Then they drop off and they make

660
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: a big signing and he's talking a good game about

661
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: Quentin Grimes being part of the rotation. No one works

662
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: harder than Quenton Grimes. So he's gonna play at least

663
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: one game this season. I can feel it. Who knows

664
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: what happens with Tibbs, but yeah, I think he's on

665
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: the hostile seats. But I think Nate McMillan is very

666
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: very much on the hot seat because the Hawks gave

667
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: up for de Jonte Murray. They gave up three picks.

668
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: What else are they going to do to better their team?

669
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: If things don't go well, it's it's firing Nate McMillan.

670
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: I do think and last year was uninspiring after the

671
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: great run to the conference finals, beating those Knicks four

672
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: to one somehow, coming back against the Sixers and then

673
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: losing to the Bucks eventually, and then last year was

674
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 2: just a bad year. So yeah, if they get off

675
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: to a bad start, I could see Nate gone.

676
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: Well, if they get off to a bad start, I mean,

677
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: then it's going really poorly. Four of their first five

678
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: games are against the Pistons, the Magic, the Rockets. There's

679
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: three of the worst teams in the league at least

680
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: last season, and the others against the Hornets. We will

681
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: not have LaMelo Ball and should be one of the

682
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: worst teams. Four of the first five games. They better

683
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: come out and have a pretty good record. After the

684
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: first five, I mean, they got to be three and

685
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: two at the very least, probably four and one. And

686
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: if they're one and four and it's on bad, bad start,

687
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Nate will be gone. They'll have to because I think

688
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: the the ownership of the Hawks have proven like we

689
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: want to win. We think in making this move for Murray,

690
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: having our team here, like who knows what we're doing

691
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: with Collins and of course the Capella and the Congo

692
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: and all that, but like you figure it out, you

693
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: got the pieces. We should play some defense here too

694
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: and try and win some games.

695
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: And they should. They should win games because they've got

696
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: the Magic Hornets and Wizards in their division.

697
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: They are in the worst division, I think.

698
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: So.

699
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the in the NBA, let's hear from everybody

700
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: out there, any good names coming through. People are joking

701
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: that Lloyd Pierce is available for the Hawks if they

702
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: were to move off Nateman, Well, that'd be amazing. Just

703
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: keep swapping back and for firing the team up. Just

704
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: those a fresh voice back in there. People are saying,

705
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: not really a bunch of other ones. Billy Donovan a

706
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: dark horse for people with the With the Bulls.

707
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: I a medium seat. He's he's on a medium seed.

708
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: I think the Bulls showed great improvement last year and

709
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: then their season fell apart due to injuries. They're starting

710
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: this season off with an injury to a starter. So

711
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: I can't see it happening during this year unless things

712
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: go completely haywire and they're like oh and twenty to

713
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: start the season. But next summer, I think it's certainly

714
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: up for discussion.

715
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: And you're mentioning the stream teamers coming through. We should

716
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: have mentioned this guy's name as a Defensive Player of

717
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: the Year candidate, Jared Allen I think should should be there,

718
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: rap Stallion throwing that in there. Yes, it is good

719
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: because the Cavs are going to be great on that end,

720
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: and who's going to get the credit for it. It should

721
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: be Jared Allen. You know, Mobile is going to be great.

722
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: I think Isaac Korra will be out. They're being great.

723
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: People question can they have this small backcourt? Can can

724
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: they pull it off? I think they'll find a way.

725
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: But you talk about narrative with Defensive Player of the Year,

726
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: it's always a year behind. So this is smart. Start

727
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: start that Jared Allen for DPOI now and it might

728
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: pay off even if he's elite and is in theory

729
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: one of the best big men defensive centers in the

730
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: league this year. Man, it's usually a year behind. I

731
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: don't know why with this award until you really, you know,

732
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: get that that stamp of approval from the voters generally.

733
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: So I like Jared Allen, though I love jarrenalone. Let's

734
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: take one more break when we come back. We got

735
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: some silly questions to end this one. It's gonna be

736
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: fun questions, so anywhere Okay, I promised some silly questions

737
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: here to end, and these two are bangers favorite moment

738
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: slash meme of the off season slash preseason. All right,

739
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I left it very open for you to go wherever

740
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: you want with this one.

741
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes, I liked so many off season moments

742
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: and when I say like, when I when I say liked,

743
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: know when I say liked, I clicked them on Twitter

744
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: with a heart hearted them. I hearded him so many

745
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: throughout July, August, September, and then in October, King of

746
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: off sed off season Memes comes through again again. Clay Thompson,

747
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh just stole it, just stole all my likes. He

748
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: rendered them all moot because he was in Japan uh

749
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: for for preseason and he was asked about winning a

750
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: three point contest by the host and I think we

751
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: have the clip JD. Clay.

752
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: You didn't play in the game last night, but you're

753
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: able to come out here and win this contest.

754
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: How does it feel right now? It feels great.

755
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: I might not be able to jump like these young bucks,

756
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: but I'll never lose a strap. Ronnie two K changed

757
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 5: my three point rating right now, right now, hater.

758
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: It's the frigging hater. I love it, yeah, because yeah,

759
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: he's he's calling out Ronnie two K, the changes rating.

760
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: He calls his shot the strap, which if you're watching

761
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Steph Curry loves it big. Yeah. Never, I never lose

762
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: the strap. That's what he called it. So you know

763
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: it's it's Clay this, this kind of this question always

764
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: GHEs to him. I had so many good ones stored up.

765
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: I had Royce O'Neill drop in his mom at a camp.

766
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: His mom was he posted, he posted up. This was July. Yeah,

767
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: Russe O'Neil was posting up his mom had dropp her,

768
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: like physically dropperr.

769
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: But I literally thought you meant he drove his mom

770
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: to summer camp and dropped her off.

771
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: That's what I was like, dropped her at camp. I

772
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: know camp. I didn't say basketball camp. I didn't say

773
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: drop her. I thought you I thought you thought that

774
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: he was holding her and dropped backing up. Yeah, ross

775
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: O'Neil's mom, she wants that work in the post and

776
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: then she's going a little too hard, she's a little

777
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: too hot, top heavy, and he spins off for see

778
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: you later. Yeah, bump, bump, spin, Royce O'Neill's mom face

779
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: first on the wood and so it's a great clip. Sorry,

780
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: actually we'll share it. We'll share it somewhere. But those

781
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: are my one two.

782
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, those are great little video clips. Thanks for coming

783
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: through tree. What do you got for a favorite mom

784
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: meme of the off season? Slash preseason?

785
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm like tasks. I like so many moments this offseason.

786
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: The best moment of the off season was Lebron playing

787
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: at the Drew League. By far. That was awesome. Man.

788
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: They put it on the NBA. Yeah, it was so cool,

789
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: like a tiny, tiny gym. They were going all out.

790
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: Lebron was playing to the crowd too, you know, letting

791
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: the other team take a huge lead before coming back

792
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Alongside de Rosen. There we had

793
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: the great pictures of Dion right ding them up, eyes

794
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 4: wide open, Bobby Portis style. He said, I'm not scared,

795
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: That's just how my eyes look. I thought that was awesome.

796
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: So I think that was the coolest moment by far

797
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: of the off season. I felt like a throwback to

798
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: like the lockout season when everybody was playing at Rucker

799
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: Park or the Drew League as well. But to me,

800
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: the funniest meme of the off season where these tweets

801
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 4: about Kevin Durant. Michael Patron tweeted, Carr wouldn't start this morning,

802
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: get to work late, and our internet is down.

803
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: Lol. I love this shit.

804
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: Unlike Kevin Durant, I actually enjoy taking the hardest road.

805
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: It's basically just problem solving practice. Pretty good response. Seven

806
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: and eight quote tweets, three hundred and sixty three retweets.

807
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: But one of those quote tweets was from Kevin Durant,

808
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 4: who responded, you enjoy having a shitty car and getting

809
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: to work and not being able.

810
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 3: To connect to the internet.

811
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: It's got like five times with quote tweets and retweets.

812
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: That was just bars from Kevin Durant. The It's kind

813
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: of like the happy Gilmore you eat shit for breakfast.

814
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: I'm back. So I love that from Kevin Durant.

815
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: He's good on Twitter, wisely pointing out in the stream too.

816
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: I didn't think about this. The meme of the off

817
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: season maybe was Bryant Windhorse with what does it? What

818
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: does it mean?

819
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: Right?

820
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: Or what's going on?

821
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: What's going on in Utah? That's actually the correct term. Yeah,

822
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: that that's a hell of a meme. That's so good

823
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: call by everyone out there.

824
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: A little love.

825
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: This isn't a meme or a moment, but I saw

826
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: ghost Face Zilla writing about it in his newsletter today.

827
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: It was the summer of mo. How could you be

828
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: more heartless? How could you trade Mo heartless? How could

829
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: you wave more heartless? More heartless? Zilla broke it down.

830
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy went through it all this summer.

831
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Traded in July to the Hawks in the Herder deal,

832
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: September traded to the Thunder in the Mo Heartless deal

833
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I guess, three days later, traded to the Rockets in

834
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: the Ty Jerome deal. I don't know. And then he

835
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: was just recently on October eleventh, waved by the Rockets.

836
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: He was on four different NBA rosters since July, and

837
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: he's now on zero NBA. How could you be more heartless?

838
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: There is that, But but I'm a prisoner of the

839
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: moment recency bias. I mean, I can't you know what

840
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: good on you guys to like things on Twitter from July.

841
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: That's the way to do it, to remember this stuff.

842
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: But not me. This happened days ago, and it's my

843
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: favorite moment Trey the Bulls are back in my life.

844
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: It's this clip of Alex Caruso on the fast Break

845
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: versus the Nuggets and this guy front row had on

846
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: bag for the beer in his hand, turning around in celebration.

847
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: This is the Steph Curry celebration as a fan, Like

848
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: you're so pumped about the play that's gonna happen. You

849
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be great. You don't even watch it.

850
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: I love it. The photo that's epic, It's very funny.

851
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: And then I know the Bulls were tweeting about helpless

852
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: find this fan. I didn't eno if they ever found

853
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: to me, they find this dude, Come on, it can't

854
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: be that difficult.

855
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know guarantee. That guy's name is Murphy.

856
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them round, so shout up to

857
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: Bulls fan mur there. That's just great and I would

858
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: like to see more fans start doing this, especially on

859
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: the fast break. Be pretty cool to see an entire arena,

860
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: especially if you're watching on television, Like you got your

861
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: star player on the fast Break and instead of watching it,

862
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: you all turn around to look at the camera where

863
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: you know it's being filmed.

864
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: I like that amazing. Yeah, very very funny.

865
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's hear from everybody your other favorite moments

866
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: there from the off season and preseason final one. We

867
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: do it every year in burning Questions, we asked what

868
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: will be the biggest fashion trend in the NBA season.

869
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: We've had some wild predictions sort of come true. If

870
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: for'm being honest. We called turtlenecks. Remember that, that's years

871
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: ago we said, we said, turtlenecks are gonna be big,

872
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: and sure enough, everybody was wearing them and I don't

873
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: know there any other ones we sort of nailed and.

874
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: We had we had the face mask, right yeah, con Tres.

875
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Harral, Yeah, yeah, like digital face. So what do you have.

876
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Let's try and call our shot again, Trey, you're you're

877
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: a fashion expert. What's gonna be what's gonna be in

878
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: for the NBA season at least this year?

879
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 4: Gigantic pants? Okay, like massive, massive pants. We're talking Jinko

880
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 4: style leg openings here, twenty inches, So you know, you're

881
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: just seeing a little bit of a new flick. When

882
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: a guy's walking flares, we'll be back. So yeah, I'm

883
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: anticipating a big pants season from the NBA. It's gonna

884
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 4: take a while, but we're gonna be trending towards humuongus

885
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: shorts as well. It always happens with pants first pants change.

886
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: It takes a little bit for the shorts game to

887
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: catch up. We're still on a short, tight short in

888
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: the NBA right now, but we're gonna be heading towards

889
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 4: TJ Ford territory and not too long.

890
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: So basically kusma sweater like pants is where we're going. Yeah, yeah,

891
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: this this tracks because I asked Nora like, well, I mean,

892
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: I was like, how do I answer this this year, Adam,

893
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: I've run out of ideas. I nailed a couple of these,

894
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: now run out of ideas. She's like, well, in women's fashion,

895
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: every thing is huge. Everything's gigantically oversized. And she's like,

896
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: you know that usually translates to the opposite sex. And

897
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so this makes sense to right,

898
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: big old pants.

899
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: Big old pants, bpe, big pants energy, no doubt. So,

900
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: but we're talking, we're talking off court pants, we're talking

901
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: on court. I know you're getting there.

902
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

903
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't think we're ready for the big shorts again yet.

904
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna go medium shorts. I think

905
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to a little closer. I think Kawhi

906
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: is coming back. Kawi looks like maybe it's just his

907
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: tree trunks, but his shorts are kind of big.

908
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: He likes an old short.

909
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I'll push back. You see a

910
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: lot of these guys. They're always rolling up their shorts

911
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: to make them tighter, show off the quad more and practice.

912
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: This is Yeah, this absolutely isn't a good pick. But

913
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: it's the annual question for me, for you ask the partner.

914
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: I just and and I have noticed. I'm not much

915
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: into the fashion. But yeah, ladies rocking large large pants.

916
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: So it's coming. It's coming with the windy pants.

917
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: What's going on in those those giant pants, baby big

918
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: pants energy? So yeah, you're doubling down. He's got one

919
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: pant leg, you got the other, big old pant legs.

920
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: All right, you know what's going on? Big shorts energy,

921
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: YouTube shorts, you got there, you got there. You know

922
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: we got YouTube shorts energy in here.

923
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I have a different answer. I love love

924
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: the love, love love love the big pants. But people

925
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: will be rocking when they show up. I saw a

926
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: clip though from the other day. I think I saw

927
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: it by way of Kelsey Russo, who's at the athletic

928
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: covering the cavaliers, and ja do you have the clip?

929
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: There was a dog at the practice facility. I have

930
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: no idea whose dog. This is, cute Golden retriever running around.

931
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell say hey, come here, dog dogs said bye.

932
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: So great defense from don in there and this dog

933
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: just pumped to be there, tough to run on the hardwoods,

934
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: slipping sliding around. But I was like, you know, we

935
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: know NBA players have dogs. We always see them in

936
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: their Instagram accounts. And you know, uh, Anthony Edwards with

937
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: his quote unquote famous sweat pit bull that he's got. Yeah,

938
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: I think could we see them really leaning in towards

939
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: bringing their pets with them to the arena like a

940
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: lot more like the catwalk will be the dog walk

941
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: now more pet walk. Danny Green can bring a snakes

942
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: if he wants when he's back. But I just like,

943
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: just get more. Just let's see the pets at the

944
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: arena more.

945
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: What do you do with them though?

946
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: When you get there? I mean, they've got handlers, they've

947
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: got people that can watch it. Get them a seat

948
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: that's a flex.

949
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Dog.

950
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: Front row dog can turn around, put his paws up

951
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: when a fast break done.

952
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: People love their pets. Yeah, and you can.

953
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: Definitely see like we had Klay Thompson riding bikes in

954
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: or like people have been in on scooters. Wouldn't be

955
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: super weird for somebody to bring in a tiny animal.

956
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it's not. There's nothing in the rule

957
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 4: book that says you can't bring a dog. You can't

958
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: bring a dog to a basketball game. The problem is

959
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: just where do they go because you see, you see

960
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: that dog running around on the court.

961
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: That dog's struggling.

962
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: Man, get that dog some slippers.

963
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they gotta have pet room, pet room, people

964
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: drop them off. It can expand to fans coming in.

965
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: They don't want to leave their pets at home for

966
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: four hours, Drop it off in our pet room.

967
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: Bring bring your pet to the game. I know they

968
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: do it in baseball a lot. Yeah, but Blazers did

969
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: it once. You can bring your pet to the arena.

970
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: So I just want these guys to start coming in

971
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: more with their pets because dogs make everybody happier. Or

972
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: big cats too. You love your cat.

973
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: Doing she's not coming, She's not going to an arena.

974
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: Though, No, capt'n freaking you said you wanted your cat

975
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: to go outdoors.

976
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: Though obviously this is the cat and the it's in

977
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: her blood.

978
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: I say, no, you're ready to clean up a dead road?

979
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, problem, she killed a cockroach. I think good for her.

980
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if people are saying this

981
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: in the streame team, but the counter to the dog

982
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: showing up in the catwalk is, uh, remember when who

983
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: was it? Was it a Christian? Yeah, Scooby took a

984
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: dump on the court. That was a big controversy.

985
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: What what was the controversy dumped on the court?

986
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: That's a tiny dog.

987
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Most people are anti dump on.

988
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: I guess that was You do have that issue, So

989
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: clean it up, you know what. Nice segue. That will

990
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: be one of the topics sort of on is this good?

991
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: Coming up today one pm? It's uh I put in

992
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: the title and sort of in the photo. I'm cheating

993
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, but uh, I put dog poop etiquette.

994
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 1: It's really the question is is this good? Throwing your

995
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: dog poop in someone else's trash can, in your neighbor's

996
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: trash can. That's an interesting debate.

997
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: I hope so yeah, because we'll be talking about it

998
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: for fifteen minutes at least.

999
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta say, I gotta say my tikes.

1000
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're actually I.

1001
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: Actually think I'm going to be on the minority on

1002
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: that one.

1003
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting. I was sitting at my front window recently

1004
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: typing on my computer, and I see a car pull

1005
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: up on the curb. A man jump out and bag

1006
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: some poop. I guess his dog had pooped. He maybe

1007
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: didn't have a bag on him.

1008
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: They done that.

1009
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Loved it. I appreciate it. I opened, I ran out

1010
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: the door, and I said, thank you, thank you for

1011
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: picking up your dog poop. I would have gladly put

1012
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: it into my fertilizer, but thank you anyway. Very nice, Yeah,

1013
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: very nice for everybody involved. That's why when you brought

1014
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: up the Christian and Scooby incident, the dog pooped, dog's poop.

1015
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: It's disgusting though, it's really disgusting.

1016
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: Anyways, this is this poop that is later today at

1017
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: one pm Eastern here in the No Dunks YouTube feed. Matdio,

1018
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: of course, the host of that show, t K you're

1019
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: on that one, Jad chiming in on writing yell previews. Yeah,

1020
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: the dog poop one and showering at the gym hopefully

1021
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: bumper stickers, though Matt always wants to cut that one

1022
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: at the last second. He can't stop producing.

1023
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: Undown.

1024
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, last week.

1025
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: I know it's the Matt Damon. I would categories.

1026
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: This just depends on how long we go on poop really, Yeah,

1027
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna yeah, call it.

1028
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: I guess right, So is this good? One PM, guys,

1029
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: let's call it there. That's part three. We're over halfway there.

1030
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: Two more Burning Questions episodes coming Thursday and Friday, ten

1031
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,920
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Speaker 1: you download and listen New Burning Questions tomorrow, You guys

1041
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: want to tease? Yes, must watch a league pass team. Okay,

1042
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: all right, show Zach low most improved player that one.

1043
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys. You can make a

1044
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: case where I feel like I know you guys are

1045
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: high one and which team is most likely to disappoint? Okay, okay,

1046
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: those are.

1047
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: A lot of them.

1048
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: A couple of questions.

1049
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: Thirty thinks they're going to eighty two?

1050
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: And oh now you guys are high on the Kings.

1051
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, everybody is in on the Kinks. It's bad. Yeah,

1052
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: the Kings are now gonna not only let down their

1053
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: own fan base, but they're gonna let down all of

1054
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: the media now too. It's crazy rooting for you. Everybody's okay,

1055
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: So that's.

1056
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Sat the Mariners. They're not making the playoffs. Everybody, really,

1057
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: we don't.

1058
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: We want thirty five wins, test thirty six wins?

1059
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: Over over over.

1060
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Okay, is this good? Coming up at one pm? Beach

1061
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: and stick around guys until then. Clipper bros.

1062
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1063
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 5: love you guys awesome.

1064
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember trim your toenails. Actually

1065
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: really happy with the Cat's dog clip reminded me I

1066
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: gotta trim.

1067
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: My you're hoofing around of your slipping all over.

1068
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna trimmer right now. I brought my trimmer, my clipper.

1069
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a YouTube. Short clipper bro, YouTube, short

1070
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Speaker 2: nails people,