1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Vis is Masters in Business with Barry Ridholts on Bloomberg Radio. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: This week on the podcast, I have an extra special 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: guest for our fourth of July holiday special. When I 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: interviewed Henry Cornell as the former woman SAX private equity 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: person now runs Cornell Capital and really fascinating guy with 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: a tremendous history. When we were talking about some of 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: his charitable foundations and various board works that he does, 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: he mentioned the Navy Seal Foundation, and I have to 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: tell you I was quite intrigued, not only because over 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: the course of my career, I've been lucky enough to 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: work with a number of military vets. I started on 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: a trading desk and the guy on my right was 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: a Marine Jungle combat instructor and the guy on my 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: left was an Army ranger. So I felt when we 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: went out after trading for the day, I felt I 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: could basically do anything. I was completely invulnerable to any 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: sort of trouble. And now today I have a number 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: of military veterans working in my firm, both as our 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: CFO is one person and our CTO is another person, 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: and I call those guys our secret weapon. So the 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to speak with Robin King, who is the CEO 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: of the Navy Seals Foundation, was just too good to 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: pass up. She's been a military spouse for many years. 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: She has spent time both within the community of military 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: families as well as a person who is helping to 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: take care of those families post service in a variety 27 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: of ways, both financial and organizational, helping them deal with 28 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: sometimes trying circumstances, on rare occasion, tragic circumstances. And I 29 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: think it's a wonderful organization that does great work. Could 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: imagine a better guest for July four. So, with no 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: further ado my conversation with Robin King, this is Masters 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: in Business with Barry Ridholts on Bloomberg Radio. My special 33 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: guest for the July four holiday weekend is Robin King. 34 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: She is the chief executive Officer for the Navy Seal Foundation, 35 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: which provides critical support and assistance to the Naval Special 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Warfare community and its families. They are based out of Coronado, California, 37 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: where Naval Special Warfare Command is located, as well as 38 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: where the Seal Qualification training takes place. She is the recipient, 39 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: amongst other honorifics, of the US Special Operation Commands Outstanding 40 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: Civilian Service Medal. Robin King, Welcome to Bloomberg. Thank you, 41 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: thanks for having it this morning. So I think the 42 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: role of military families is one of those things where 43 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: there is a lot of sacrifice given and very little 44 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: praise or fanfare recognized. Families have to endure long separations 45 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: from the military spouse. Families often get moved around from 46 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: place to place. Tell us about your experience as a 47 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: military spouse. Yeah, you know, it's a very different life, 48 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: but it's not one that I, uh, I didn't marry 49 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: a feal My wonderful husband determined after we were married 50 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, if this is something you 51 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: wanted to do, so um. You know, people jokingly in 52 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: this community always say, well, you knew what you were 53 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: marrying into, but I absolutely didn't. It's a unique life 54 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: in that you learn how important community is, whether that's 55 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: your neighbors, the Naval special worker community, your friends, your family. 56 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: You have to learn to become really independent, and that 57 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: is not really independent of your husban them, but it's 58 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: being able to be independent with and without your husband. So, 59 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, the incredible amount of time that they're gone 60 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: can really bring out some amazing things, and you know, 61 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: the spouse and the families, You learn what you can handle, 62 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: you learn where you need to lean on people. You 63 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: developed some incredible strengths, and uh, I don't know any 64 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: spouses who wish they didn't go through this amazingly enough, 65 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: as tough as it can be, I think we're all 66 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: really proud to be part of this community and part 67 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: of this life and to do this for our country. 68 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: You mentioned you didn't marry a seal. Your husband was 69 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: a photographer, right, Like, I couldn't imagine anything more polar 70 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: opposite than when I what I think of when I 71 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: think of a Navy seal. How did he come to 72 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the decision to change his career path and what was 73 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: your reaction to that? Yeah, you know seals probably have 74 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: one of them, those diverse sets of backgrounds and all 75 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: these guys, you know, we have everything from you know, 76 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: guys who have their pH ds, you know, guys who 77 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: are photography dooming. His degree was in fine art photography. 78 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: My husband's much older half brother was a Vietnam A seal, 79 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: and he had taken a trip down to San Diego 80 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to visit him one weekend when he was I had 81 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: traveled across the country to visit an old Vietnam era buddy, 82 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: and my husband said, I'm going to go down and 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: visit Mikey. I'm like, great, go have a bathulous weekend. 84 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, see when you get back. And at this time, 85 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: we were living in Pasadena, we had a house, we 86 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: had our little life. And he came back and looked 87 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: at me and said, I want to be a seal. 88 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be a seal. And I think 89 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: I probably cried for about a week. And I just 90 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: didn't you know, I didn't know anything about military life. 91 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that would be, but I knew 92 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: it was going to be a dramatic change. But it 93 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: was really apparent that this was something that he just 94 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: had to do. It was a calling and not you know, 95 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: I've never experienced anything like that. You know, I don't 96 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: have anything that just called spoke to me so strongly 97 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: that I just had to do it. And um, you know, 98 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: he actually went in on the older end. He was 99 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: twenty six when he started this journey, and god, you know, 100 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: he he loves his job. Every day. We were sitting 101 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: around the other evening with my daughters and everybody's talking 102 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: about work, and he just chuckled and said, I love 103 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: my job, you know. So you know, a lot of 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: people have a lot of complaints, but he does not. 105 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: He loves it with everything he has. So that's fun 106 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: to be around. Huh. I can imagine. So. So one 107 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: of the things about the military brats I know and 108 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: the stories I've heard, is how often their families had 109 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: to move from assignment to assignment, based to base, and 110 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: for the spouse, very often they're working in careers like 111 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: teachers and nurses and other things like that where there's 112 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: a state certification required and then suddenly you pick up 113 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: and moved to a new state and you have to 114 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: start all over. How do you deal with that? Do 115 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: states cross honor other licensing or is this still a 116 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: problem today? Yeah, that's a great question. There has been 117 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of movement in ensuring that military spouses have 118 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: much more portable careers. So there's a two thousand eighteen 119 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: National Defense Authorization Act which allows the spouses to get 120 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: reimbursed for licensure costs. There is a lot of states 121 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: that are implementing or in the process of implementing portability 122 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: measures for spouses of their organizations like the Navy Seal 123 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Foundation that provides scholarships to help with funding if you 124 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's above the reimbursement that's allowed by the 125 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: military branches. And you know, it's really heartening to see 126 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: that the government is taking this seriously and they understand 127 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: these challenges by the spouses, and the states are really 128 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: working hard at ensuring that these spouses aren't leaving behind 129 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: their their law career, their nursing career, their teaching career, 130 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I was at a meeting recently 131 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: in a spouse who's an attorney that she just got 132 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: her license renewed from Virginia to California, and she was 133 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: very excited that she was able to make that happen. 134 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: I was going to talk to another attorney in the 135 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: room on how she did that without retaking the bar, 136 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: which I can't even imagine doing. There's a lot of 137 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: good things going on in that space. That's great. So, So, 138 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: you've been with the Navy Seals Foundation since its inception 139 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand. How did the foundation come about and 140 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: what was your involvement from from the beginning. Sure, the 141 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Navy Seals Foundation grew out of a fraternal Order of 142 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: Navy Seals called the dt Seal Association, and that still exists. 143 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: It's been around since the sixties. And the DCCAL Association 144 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: had a small scholarship program where they awarded scholarships to 145 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: the dependent children of seals and that was about fourteen 146 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year that was being awarded at that time. 147 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: And this was in two thousand when I started working 148 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: with them. We had a donor come to us and say, hey, 149 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: I want to give to the scholarship program. I want 150 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: to get a hundred thousand dollars, but you have to 151 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: be a five and one C three, which the association 152 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: was not. It was a paternal order, so it fell 153 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: unto a different tax code. And a hundred thousand dollars 154 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: is a significant amount of money. And so we were like, absolutely, 155 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, we can do that. Let's form a five 156 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: and one C three and we you know, the original 157 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: thoughts were, we're going to expand our scholarship program. This 158 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: is fabulous, and so we did that, got the great donation, 159 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: and you know, fast forward just a little bit of 160 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: time and we're at nine eleven and you know, obviously 161 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the world changed, and you know, my husband actually left 162 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: in November of that same year, and we lost our 163 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: first seal in Afghanistan in March two thousand two, and 164 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: we lost our second seal also in March two thousand 165 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: two in Afghanistan, and we kind of looked at each other. 166 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: It was just a couple of us and we said, 167 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, things have changed. And the first deal we 168 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: lost in Afghana stand with Neil Roberts, and he wrote 169 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: an incredible letter for in his records. It was one 170 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: of those you know, if you're reading this letter about 171 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: how much he loved what he did and you know, 172 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: died doing what he was supposed to be doing. And 173 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: that got picked up by the press and we started 174 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: receiving donations from that. People were just looking for a 175 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: place to give and support his family, and we understood 176 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: that we had a responsibility with these donations to do 177 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: something for those families. And so over time, you know, 178 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: just like what happened with Neil and the families and 179 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: the community and the stresses and the operational tempo, the 180 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: foundation just began to evolve and by creating great programs, 181 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: you know, we've got more donations and we supported more 182 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: families in a in a bigger, better way, which spawned, 183 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, more great programs and more great donations. You know. 184 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: So it was really just this organic development um that 185 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: ended up being this, this great organization that provides incredible 186 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: support today. And uh, you know, the guys I was 187 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: there when it started, I wouldn't say I was much 188 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: more than that. The guys that started this were retired Seals. 189 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't think we have any of them still on 190 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: our board today, but they're still always happy to attend 191 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: things and active and talk very positively in support the 192 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: foundation in big, big ways. It was. It was a 193 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: great group of guys, and I was just lucky to 194 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: be at the right place at the right time. Let's 195 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about your backgrounds in finance. You 196 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: were both CFO and now you're CEO of the Seal Foundation. 197 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: How did your prior career help you get ready for 198 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: this role. Yeah, that's an interesting question that I don't 199 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: think I've really had to think about before. You know, 200 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: out of school, I went to work from McDonald Douglas, 201 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: which is now part of Boeing, and I worked as 202 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: a financial analyst on military special projects, and from there 203 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: I ended up with the Walt Disney company working as 204 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: an auditor for the Disney Channel back when the Disney 205 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Channel was a paid channel, before it became part of 206 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, Basic not Basic cable, but you know, more 207 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: of a standard package. And I guess Disney now has 208 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: its paid channel as well. You know. So there's a 209 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: lot of my previous career history that focused on you know, planning, budgeting, 210 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: paying attention to the details. And I remember when you know, 211 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: people first started asking me there's the difference between for 212 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: profit and nonprofit, and I remember thinking, I don't really 213 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: view them all that differently, other than there are a 214 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: few rules you have to follow for nonprofits. So I 215 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,359 Speaker 1: think I kind of came at the Navy Field Foundation 216 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: with more of a for profit mindset, and I understood 217 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: the importance, like you know, anybody would, the importance of 218 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: really ensuring that the donors know how well we take 219 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: care of their dollars and how much we try to 220 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: squeeze out of every dollar, and that that needs to 221 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: be transparent. They always need to be very comfortable that 222 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: they are making the right decision. I mean, they're getting 223 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: us a gift, right and we have to know what 224 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: we're doing with it, why we're doing that, that our 225 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: programs make sense, that they have a philosophy that aligns 226 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: with our customer base, which is you know, naval special 227 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: warfare and feel community. And I think we've we've done 228 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: a really good job at that. You know, we we 229 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: know exactly why we do everything we do, and that's 230 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: really important. And you know, we sit around we have 231 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: some pretty interesting conversations when we're making decisions about new 232 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: programs or program growth or if you we scale something back. 233 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: You know, we don't take any of that lightly. So 234 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: so let's talk about both of those things that you mentioned, 235 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: because it's really very very interesting. I want to get 236 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: into some of the programs that you guys run a 237 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: little later, but let's talk about the donor base. I 238 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: understand you have a broad group of donors. Tell us 239 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: what the range of people who give to the Navy 240 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: Seal Foundation looks like. Who's the typical donor that you 241 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: count on and obviously not by name, but what sort 242 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: of person chooses the Navy Seal Foundation as their favorite charity. 243 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, we have such a broad base of donors, 244 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: everybody from you know, members of the Seal community themselves, 245 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: their friends, their families. We've developed great relationships with people 246 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: and businesses and business leaders across the country, you know, 247 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: and then we just have our you know, great American 248 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: patriots who may not even know that much about the military, 249 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: but are just you know, honored to support our military 250 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: in some way. And you know, we're lucky enough that 251 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: they've chosen the Navy Seal Foundation. You know, we've done 252 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of work connecting with donors through you know, 253 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: major events, um but we've continue to expand with partnerships 254 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: with companies like you know, reebok is A is a 255 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: great partner of and we try to incorporate you know, 256 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: our donors and our partners into really connecting with this 257 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: community and understanding, you know, what makes feels different and 258 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: what makes feel special and why the needs exists. I mean, 259 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: this is a very proud community who you know, you 260 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: certainly aren't going to hear or say, you know, we 261 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: need your help. And that's where the Foundation comes in, 262 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: looking at you know what it is these families have 263 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: to deal with and and discussing it with the donors 264 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: who have always been just been so incredibly thoughtful and 265 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: respectful of the privacy of this community, and you know 266 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: what it is that they deal with on a daily basis. 267 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know if I could say, 268 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, one type of donor because it really is 269 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: incredibly varied. But I can tell you across the country 270 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: where we've had, you know, major events, and we have 271 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: just some really incredible major donors that have been so 272 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: pleased with the Navy Steal Foundation and what we do 273 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: that they leverage their networks. You know, they're connecting us 274 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: with their friends, um, which says a lot, you know, 275 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: to us, it says a lot because that's hard to do, right, 276 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, to go ask your friends to participate in 277 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: something because you think it matters. You know, you're going 278 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: to really believe in it if you're doing that. And 279 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: we've been extremely lucky on the relationships we've built and 280 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: how these people feel about the Navy Steal Foundation, and 281 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: we just we hope we can continue to make them 282 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: feel a part of this team, because we do view 283 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: it as a team. Every donor, every supporter, everybody who 284 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: puts on a small race or you know, sells their 285 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: own T shirts for us, or we've had kids who 286 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: do lemonade stamps. Those are all part of this team. 287 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: And every one of those dollars matters to us being 288 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: able to provide incredible support to this community. So how 289 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: do you balance the needs of the community that you're 290 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: serving when there are obviously some very current short term needs, 291 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: but on the same time, you have to think long 292 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: term about the financial health of the organization and your 293 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: mission is perpetual. How do you balance between what you 294 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: want to do right now and what you want the 295 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: organization to be able to do one, five, ten years out. Yeah, 296 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: it is a balance, and we worked hard to support 297 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: that immediate need, was always keeping an eye on that 298 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: long term objective. You know, we have camps for these kids. 299 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: We want the kids to go to camp this year, 300 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: and we want ten years from now kids still go 301 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: to camp. Right We can't look up and say, oh, sorry, 302 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: we didn't plan well enough. So you know, your younger 303 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: children don't get to go to camp. We really understand 304 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: when we roll out new programs. Every time we do that, 305 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: we make sure that it's going to be sustainable long term. 306 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: So you know, every year we are budgeting and forecasting 307 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: processes is really intensive. We work with the staff, we 308 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: work with committees of the board. Uh, we leverage our 309 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: board members and their expertise, and we bring forward what 310 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: we think we want to spend the following year and 311 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: what those programs entail. And you know, with that there's 312 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: always a buffer. We like a buffered budget because we 313 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: want to take that buffered money, assuming the day, you know, 314 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: the year goes right, and put that towards our long 315 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: term needs. You know. So over time, we've built up 316 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: a reserve, you know, an emergency contingency reserve. We're working 317 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: towards building an endowment, and all of those things help 318 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: ensure that we're able to continue on and provide every 319 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: program that we've promised well into the future. And with 320 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: this virus right now, and you know, we're really stepping 321 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: into the first layer of what catastrophe can be like 322 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: and its catastrophes. You know, the wrong word here, but 323 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, how do you deal when your whole funders 324 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: and dynamics had to change and you know what the 325 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: impact is that going to be? Energy's still going to 326 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: stain your programs and the Foundation hasn't misked the beat. 327 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: And on top of that, we've helped support a couple 328 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: of other foundations that have struggled in other ways, and 329 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: they provide programs that we feel are important enough that 330 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: we want to reach across and say, hey, we're gonna 331 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: help you through this this rough period. So I'm really 332 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: proud of how we have planned so that we are 333 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: able to continue to Pride programs. I don't want to 334 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: miss giving a mom of flowers on Memorial Day. I 335 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: don't want to not recognize, you know, the birthday of 336 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: a fallen you know, a warrior to his spouse. And 337 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, those things may seem little, but to be 338 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: able to do everything that we've we've established that we're 339 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: going to do and continue to do that, it's just 340 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: hugely important to us. And I really am so proud 341 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: of how we have planned long term. And you know, 342 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: I think sometimes nonprofits get get dingmed for you know, 343 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: you have money in the bank. We have money in 344 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: the bank for a reason, and that is to sustain 345 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: these programs forever, you know, and nobody is more important 346 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: to us. And gold Star and Surviving Families are veterans, 347 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, these children who serve, you know, and they 348 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: didn't choose to serve, and we need these programs for them. 349 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: And you know, I think we're really really good at it. 350 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit Robin about some of the 351 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: programs that the foundation runs. What do you do for 352 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: the families of Navy seals in general, and what do 353 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: you do, as you mentioned, for the families of fallen warriors. 354 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: So the foundation operates under five main areas of support 355 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: Warrior and family support, educational opportunities, tragedy assistance and survivor support, 356 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: Warrior transition and veteran support. And then you know, we 357 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: also have a legacy preservation area. You know, our goal 358 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: Star families are surviving families are you know, have have 359 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: been through the unimaginable and they are one of our 360 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: first areas of expansion. And we've really learned over time 361 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: by working with these incredible family members. You know, what 362 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: their needs are. We support them with everything from all 363 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: of that immediate tragedy assistance. You know, we really like 364 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: to remove as much stress as we can in those 365 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: early days, and that is you know, could be handling 366 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: memorial reception items, it could be you know, ensuring that 367 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: they are not worried about their mortgage. You know, we've 368 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: seen people in the past make decisions too early on 369 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of our programs are designed to say, hey, 370 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: right now, you can just breathe. You know, we've got you. 371 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to make a decision about if you're 372 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: staying in that house, if you're moving back somewhere, so 373 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna pay your mortgage for a while, and you 374 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: cannot think about that because so many times we hear 375 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: from these families that you know, they were in a 376 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: fog for so long and it's really not the best 377 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: time to make decisions. You know, we have Discovery grants 378 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: for their gold Star and Surviving children, and these grants 379 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: are designed so that the kids can pursue something maybe 380 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: that was unique to them and their dad. You know, 381 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: maybe their dad was into music and he was sharing 382 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: that with his son or daughter and that's not an 383 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: area that mom maybe is proficient in. So if they 384 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: want to go pursue that, we want them to be 385 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: able to do those things. Grief counseling, financial counseling, tax preparation, 386 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: resiliency gatherings. You know, what we've learned over these last 387 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: twenty years is that what these families do for each 388 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: other is more than anybody can do for them. You know, 389 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: when you bring them together and they lean on each 390 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: other and they share what they've been through and you 391 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: can see how the spouses who have been um survivors 392 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: for a good number of years, you know, how they 393 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: help these newer spouses and it's really incredible to watch 394 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: and to to just be a part of it. A 395 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: lot of times we just kind of back up and 396 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: let them do their do their thing. You know, go ahead. 397 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt now, just you know, it goes 398 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: on and on. I mean, we really just try to 399 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: listen to them, and we've learned over the years. We 400 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: have about twelve unique programs for just our goal storre 401 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: and sprouting spouses and families. So so you kind of 402 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: put an idea in my head that I was trying 403 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: to reconcile, and you just touched on it. The concept 404 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: that having a spouse that is a warrior forces you 405 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: to be independent, but at the same time becomes part 406 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: of a larger community. And it it's a little bit 407 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: of Yin and yang tell us about how those two 408 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: work together, how you're both part of a larger community 409 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: but at the same time forced to become resilient and independent. Yeah, 410 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Stale Foundation creates programs that bring people 411 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: together as part of a community, and we work with 412 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: Naval Special Warfare and they've got some incredible staff members 413 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: who who focus on the same thing. We always want 414 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: people to know that they are part of a community. 415 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: There are people that you can call. Um. You know, 416 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: back years and years ago, everybody leaned on their neighbors, 417 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: right everybody the neighborhoods were tight, or you were close 418 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: to your family. Well, you know, you've been removed from 419 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: your family. You may have been placed into a neighborhood 420 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: where you don't know anybody, and that takes time. So 421 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: there are a lot of great programs within the Foundation 422 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: and within Naval Special For itself to bring these spouses 423 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: together and bring kids together and help them create this community. 424 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: But you do have to learn as well, um you know, 425 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: how to how to do some of these things on 426 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: your own. I mean it's inevitable, uh, the moment your 427 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: husband walks out the door, the car breaks down, or 428 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: the washing machine you know, floods the whole kitchen, or 429 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: you have a hurricane because they always take them out 430 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: during hurricanes and it's like, hey, honey, I'm I'm leaving 431 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: you and your home with you know, toddlers and a 432 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: hurricane bearing down on you in Virginia Beach and um, 433 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really fascinating what you have to 434 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: to learn to deal with. And I think through that 435 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: community connection and the sharing of stories and and everybody's 436 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: sitting around laughing about the time that this broke and 437 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: this flooded and how you dealt with it, and you know, 438 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: traumas and tragedies, you really understand what what you're capable of, 439 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: and what you know everybody in this community is capable of, 440 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: and who you can lean on. But you know, you 441 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: really have to get used to, you know, your own 442 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: I don't know triggers. I guess you know, when my 443 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: kids were little and my husband was deployed, there were 444 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: times when I would look around the house and like, 445 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do that today. I'm just 446 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: not going to clean that stuff today because I feel 447 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: like I'm kind of at my at my tipping point 448 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: on this day. It'll still be there tomorrow, It'll still 449 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: be fine tomorrow. The car that broke down in the 450 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: driveway will still be there tomorrow. I can handle it 451 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: when I can mentally hand And sometimes you let that 452 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: car set there for two weeks until you felt, you know, 453 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: strong enough again. To handle it because you no longer 454 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: have the sick child and you know the the toilet 455 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: that's backing up in your first floor. I swear we 456 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: should write a book of spouses stories when your when 457 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: your husband leaves, because it is like clockwork that the 458 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: worst things that ever happened happened. They're never home for 459 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: potty training, they're never home for you know, that hurricane. 460 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty funny, but it's like a badge of honor, 461 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, when you talk to these spouses and what 462 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: they've done, Um, it's pretty incredible. And I think we 463 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: do a really good job of of leaning on each 464 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: other and still standing on our own. So let me 465 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: ask you this, because you're you're alluding to something but 466 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: not coming right out and saying it. And I've been 467 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: thinking about it while I hear you speak. The spouse deploys, 468 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: they're obviously going in harm's way dangerous situations. Hey, if 469 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: they could just send in a regular group of either 470 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: police or military to deal with it, it would have 471 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: been done that way. So these are not only special missions, 472 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: but unusually dangerous missions. How do you manage the stress 473 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: of knowing the risk that your spouses is going through 474 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: and knowing that there's a possibility that there could be 475 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: a bad outcome. Well, for me, it was always you know, 476 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: there with the best of the best. You know, they 477 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: love the guys they work with, They have you know, 478 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: incredible trust for everybody that just pours out of them, 479 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and that gives me a lot of comfort. Always gave 480 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: me a lot of comfort knowing that everybody that my 481 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: husband was working with is doing everything they can in 482 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: the situation to ensure that they're all are going to 483 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: come home and they're going to accomplish our mission. You 484 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: just can't sit around and focus on it. You know, 485 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: there are no better trained guys in the world, and 486 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: you assume it's all gonna come out just fine. Most 487 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: time it does. We've had we've suffered some some big losses, 488 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: some you know, mass casualties that were incredibly hard on 489 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: this community, and you know, unfortunately those are going to happen. 490 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: Those one off, lucky or unlucky shots, I guess you know, 491 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: are going to happen. You just can't live in that space. 492 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: You have to assume that they've got their back. And 493 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: when my husband talked about it and any of these 494 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: guys that I talked to about it. You know, they 495 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: just look so confident, they feel so confident that they 496 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: just it creeps into everything else and you feel it too. 497 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that issue. Many public institutions have been 498 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: falling in approval ratings, whether you're talking about Congress or 499 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: the police or all these different institutions have seen their 500 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: reputations dinged, and yet the military is the one exception 501 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: to that still ranked amongst the most trustworthy and highest 502 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: approval ratings from the public. Why do you think that 503 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: might be? You know, that's a tough thing to answer. Um. 504 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, I certainly don't have an unbiased view on this, 505 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: being someone who works for a nonprofit that supports them 506 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: and being a spouse the military. I just think that 507 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: connection between the military and the American people is so 508 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: incredibly strong, and it goes back to the beginning of 509 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: our roots. They feel that the military is, you know, 510 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: doing this for them. I mean they ask we all 511 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: ask these guys to go out and do this hard job, 512 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: and we ask them over and over and over again, 513 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: and they keep going, and they keep going out there, 514 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: and they keep fighting for us every time without hesitation. 515 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: You don't really hear that from many other people, right, 516 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: and they're proud to do it. I mean, I remember 517 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: sitting with my daughters watching the Olympics and the year 518 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: that the first Afghanistan woman was running, and we sat 519 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: there and talked about how she was running in the 520 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Olympics because of what these guys did. You know, we 521 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: didn't go over there for that purpose. You know, we 522 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: went there after nine eleven, but the results for that country, 523 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: at least for a time being, we're pretty incredible. And 524 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, women getting to go to school and being 525 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: in the Olympics and that kind of thing. I mean, 526 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: those stories and the pride that you know, America has 527 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: in the difference we've made in the world, I think 528 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: is um incredible. And I think just Americans are proud 529 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: of what these guys do, and they do it for 530 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: the right reasons. Now they do it for all of 531 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: us that we're safe here at home. Quite quite interesting. So, 532 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: so it wasn't always the case that there was strong 533 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: support for either military action, and that very much translated 534 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: into allow to support for the military in the sixties 535 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: and Vietnam era. Things have obviously changed and now people 536 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: are much more comfortable saying thank you for your service. 537 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: What else should the public be thinking about as a 538 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: way to support the military, and and what should the 539 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: military as a service be doing to continue earning their support. Yeah, 540 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think the American public is doing a 541 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: great job from what I see in terms of thinking 542 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: our our service members. You know, corporations, businesses all over 543 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: the country and just individuals make it a point to recognize, 544 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, the sacrifices of these men and these families, 545 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: and that goes a long way. You know, our team 546 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: guys tend to get embarrassed by it, and I hear 547 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: a lot of them like, oh gosh, don't thank me. 548 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: They love what they do, so you know, it's always 549 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: a little awkward for them. And as far as what 550 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: the military can continue to do, I think that's just 551 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: keep doing your job and doing it well, and doing 552 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: it for the right reasons. You know, honor your ethos, 553 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, respect your command, and do do the right 554 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: thing for the right reasons. I mean, they get put 555 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of situations that are tough, and you know, 556 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: respect your training and and follow what you're supposed to do, 557 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: and take good care of everybody with you, and pay 558 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of attention to you know the countries that 559 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: you're in and be respectful of those, and I think 560 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: they'll continue to do an amazing job for all of 561 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: us and will continue to be very proud to be 562 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: associated with the American military. So one of the things 563 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: I've heard vets complain about is um and this is 564 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: not a recent thing. This goes back decades and decades 565 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: veterans administration and the sort of medical care that's available. 566 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: On the one hand, a lot of it is cutting 567 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: edge and as good as it gets anywhere in the world. 568 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: On the other hand, the bureaucracy can be very problematic 569 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: for run of the mill ordinary medical needs that people 570 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: have as as a result of their their service, especially 571 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: if they've been in overseas engagements and wars and what 572 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: have you. What can we as a country due to 573 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: to make sure we're providing all of the adequate care 574 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: and support for our veterans when they return from from 575 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: military service. Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. There's some 576 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: incredible work coming out of the v A and they have, 577 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, some of the best doctors and surgeons and 578 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: mental health professionals that exist anywhere. And you know, we 579 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: are lucky to be associated with some some great people 580 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: at the v A and our community, you know, hopefully 581 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: through groups like the Navy Steal Foundation and others, has 582 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: the ability to get to care they need. I think 583 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: we need to not work around the v A. You know, 584 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: I think they, like you said, they have incredible programs. 585 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: We need to work through them. We've got to demand 586 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: that they get staffed the way they should be. And 587 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I think every time we let them um, every time 588 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: we just go around them through a different solution set, 589 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: we're not forcing the government and the v A to 590 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: do what it needs to be doing and to fulfill 591 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: its promises. So you know, I'm a I'm a fan 592 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: of putting pressure on and work in the system as 593 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: hard as we absolutely can to help it correct itself 594 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: and to you know, leverage Congressman or whoever. We need 595 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: to shake some of this stuff out of the system. 596 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, some great things have come about in terms 597 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: of if you're not close enough, you're allowed to go 598 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: outside the system. You know, those things didn't used to exist. 599 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: But it's really disheartening when you hear a VA hospital 600 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: in one particular location in the country is you know, 601 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: so inferior to you know, some of the others. You know, 602 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: that's heartbreaking to think about someone not getting the proper 603 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: care they need and in a timely way. I think 604 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: it's something we should continue to pay attention to and 605 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: really put the pressure on and use three resource we 606 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: can to shake out those problems and push people through 607 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: a faster rate. So so I'm veering close with that 608 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: question too. The world of politics and the political process. 609 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: You're a five oh one three C I believe, so 610 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: you're that's kind of off limits. So I'm trying to 611 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: find a way to ask a broader question, which is 612 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: really so we're in a very divisive age. Politics is 613 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: off limits for you. But obviously everything that's been going 614 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: on both with the military and a number of generals, 615 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: how does your organization deal with that? How do you 616 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: sidestep questions that often are on everybody's lips. Well, you know, honestly, 617 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: we don't get to ask a lot of those questions, 618 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: and because people know who we support and why we 619 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: support them, and you know, we support of Naval Special 620 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: Warfare community, which is our seals are Swick, which your 621 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: special workfare, combating craft crewmen, all of the supporting people 622 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: that go with Naples Special Warfare you know, and our 623 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: stealing switch veterans, So we're not having to make any 624 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: decisions based on anything that's going on in the news 625 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: right now because we know who we support and if 626 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: your part of Naples Special Warfare, you're part of the 627 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: Navy Seal Foundation. If you're stealer swie, you're part of 628 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: the Navy Seal Foundation. So our lines are very clean. 629 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: It makes it very easy, but it's it's tough right now, 630 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of groupure are struggling, and 631 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: I just hope that you know, we see the light soon. 632 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things that are are 633 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: a lot of goods happening as well, and we just 634 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: need to focus on that and we're gonna keep doing 635 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: what we're doing it as the Navy steal Foundation and 636 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: supporting these families to the best of our ability. So 637 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: so let's stick with that topic then, because it's easier 638 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: to come head on with that given all the programs 639 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: that you folks run. What is the bigger restraint? Is 640 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: it your capital limitations or is it the number of uh, 641 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: let's just call it worthy targets that you can potentially assist. 642 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: What what are the constraints you're dealing with. So by 643 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: worthy targets you mean like, uh, constituents, people we helped. Yes, 644 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't feel constrained by either. 645 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: If our program growth, it's happening because we're reaching more people, 646 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: that's fabulous. We've built up reserves, contingency reserves to be 647 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: able to handle that growth. If if something were to 648 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: sneak up on us, if we you know, tapped into 649 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: a pocket of veterans that we hadn't reached previously, that's 650 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: a great thing for us, right And we do over 651 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: in a constant effort to expand our veteran outreach. Our 652 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: planning and budgeting and such, our program development is such 653 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: that we just haven't been a position to where we 654 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: we've felt constraint by money. We're not avoiding a program, 655 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: We're not not launching a program because of reach worst issues. 656 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: You know. We really feel like we've developed a robust 657 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: set of programs and identifying a gap is really hard, um, 658 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: which is a great thing, right um. And there are 659 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: also a lot of other organizations that do things and 660 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: and the found Navy Still Foundation has been focused on 661 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 1: not duplicating effort. If you know, some of our great 662 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: partner organizations, you know, have narrower missions and they're very 663 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: good at what they do. We're gonna let them do 664 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: what they do. We don't need to come take that over. 665 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: We want to support that, we want to respect that. 666 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: And so that's developed, you know, clean lines for us 667 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: to continue our program growth and development in the areas 668 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: that we've chosen. So luckily we don't feel constrained at all. 669 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: And who are some of these other organizations that you 670 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: work with? Is there an organization for Army Rangers or 671 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: marines or anything like that that performs a similar function. 672 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: Who else do you work with? Yeah? Absolutely, you know 673 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: there's there are foundations for you know, all usoff and 674 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: that's fabulous that they get that unique support. I mean, 675 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Green Berets, Army Rangers, Marine Raiders. You know. One of 676 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: the organizations organizations that we have worked closely with since 677 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of our development is the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, 678 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: which supports all SAW, all Special Operations Forces, Goal Star 679 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: and surviving families. And you know, they were kind of 680 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: a big brother to us when we were getting started 681 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: and helped us navigate in the nonprofit world. And you know, 682 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: we work closely with them still today and they're they're 683 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: a great group and they provide scholarships and educational benefits 684 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: to our Goal Star children and spouses. So that's the 685 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: area that we don't do. We are there in case 686 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: there's a gap, you know, if a child has exhausted 687 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, all of their the resources, or if they're 688 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: doing a specialized program that may not fall under a 689 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: different organization's umbrella, then we're there to pick that up 690 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: for Navals Special Warfare families. But you know, a lot 691 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: of these organizations work well together. We've worked with a 692 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: Third Option Foundation which supports our State Department people and 693 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: some of those guys left the seal community, you know, 694 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: retired from the seal community and go work for the 695 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: State Department. So we always work close down the crossover 696 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: if we lose you know, one of those guys in 697 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: a diplomatic mission. A lot of great organizations out there, 698 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: and um, I think Natal Special Warfare is really lucky 699 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: and all of thoft is really lucky to have these 700 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: organizations that work well together and learn from each other. 701 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: And we're always happy to work with any other organization 702 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 1: to ensure that they have you know, all the great 703 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: knowledge base that we've do all over these twenty years. 704 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: And if people want to reach out to the Navy 705 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: Seal Foundation, either for more information or to make a donation, 706 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: where's the best place to do that. Yeah. Absolutely. Our 707 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: website is Navy Seal Foundation dot org, all spelled out. 708 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: People can always email me. My email is r K 709 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: I n G for Robin King at Navy feel Foundation 710 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: dot org. And you know their phone numbers on the 711 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: website as well, So we welcome at all fantastic Robin. 712 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: What are you streaming these days? Tell us what you're 713 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: watching on Netflix or if you're listening to any podcast. 714 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: What what are you doing to stay entertained during lockdown? Well? 715 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: I just been used watching a great Netflix documentary, How 716 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: to Fix a Drug Scandal? Really interesting. I am kind 717 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: of obsessed right now with the criminal justice system. So 718 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: there's a podcast third season serial on the Ohio criminal 719 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: justice system that I found just unbelievable. Um, learned a 720 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: lot of great stuff there. And then my guilty pleasure 721 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: is Billions. I've been watching Billions and enjoy the heck 722 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: out of that show. Yeah, that is a fun one. 723 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about who your mentors were 724 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: who helped shape your career, both in the world of 725 00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: finance and on the foundation side. Yeah. Well, I I 726 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: grew up in a house where my dad ran his 727 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: own business, and my mom and dad worked together together 728 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: for years, so I learned a lot about running an 729 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: organization by talking to him. He was incredible. I've had 730 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: some great board members who really helped me understand how 731 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: to do this job. Well. I wouldn't be where I 732 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: was without their advice. I don't know if you want 733 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: names or not, but yeah, my first vice chairman was d. J. Haley. 734 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: He works in New York, is an incredible guy and 735 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: always easy to talk to. And then M. Jack Daley 736 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: another board member who um is incredibly successful himself and 737 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: always willing to share, you know, his wisdom. And you know, 738 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: both these guys would have the hard talk with you 739 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: and the great talk with you, and I think that's 740 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: really important. Quite interesting. What are you reading these days? 741 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: Tell us some of your favorite books and what is 742 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: keeping you, uh, your mind occupied? Yeah, right now I'm 743 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: reading The Right of a Lifetime by Bob I. Disney. 744 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: You know I worked for for a while, so I 745 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: find that really interesting. He also was an honorary or 746 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 1: l a Gal a couple of years back, so it's 747 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of fun. An interesting book called A Woman of 748 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: No Importance by Sonya Purnell. It's it's a biography of 749 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: a woman named Virginia Hall, who was an American spy 750 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: and War War two story. I didn't know, and I'm 751 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: really enjoying that. I'd setose that to anybody who's into history. 752 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: I enjoy history. I wouldn't say I'm history buff, but 753 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: I really like historical biographies quite interesting. What what sort 754 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: of advice might you give a recent college graduate who 755 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: was thinking about a career, either on the charity public 756 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: service side or in the military. I think, you know, 757 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: you gotta understand why you want to do it. You know, 758 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: if you think you want to join the military to 759 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, go shoot back guys, that's not the right reason. 760 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: You know, You've got to understand that there's so much 761 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: more to it. You know, it's it's a calling. It 762 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: has to be something that comes from your heart. A 763 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: lot of people can do the physical part and really 764 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: thinking about seals, but it's what's between your ears and 765 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: what's in your heart that are going to make you 766 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: successful in the military when it comes to nonprofits kind 767 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: of the same thing. You know, why do you want 768 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: to do this? There are sacrifices that go with being 769 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: in a nonprofit and they worked for me. You know, 770 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: I have an incredible staff. Every one of them could 771 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: be working somewhere else, probably making a good amount more money, 772 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: but they love what they do and they want to 773 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: be part of this organization. But you've you've got to 774 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: find that right fit. And I think college students today 775 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: are really looking for that, to really exploring cultures so 776 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: much more than I know I did when I was 777 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: twenty So I think that's great for them. And our 778 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: final question, what do you know about the world of foundations, endowments, 779 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: UH and raising money for a specific cause today that 780 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: perhaps you wish your new twenty years ago when the 781 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: Navy Seals Foundation was first launched. I think, you know 782 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: the relationships. I think it's really important to connect, you know, 783 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: these fabulous people with with the foundation in a way 784 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: that they can really get to know and understand this 785 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: community and making them part of the team. That we've 786 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 1: done so well in the last few years. I don't 787 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: think we did that necessarily. Early on, we didn't understand 788 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: our responsibility to the donors in those in those first 789 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: years and today we we know that they're what allows 790 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: us to live and breathe, and they are hugely important, 791 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that they understand what 792 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: they give us the ability to do. And we hope 793 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: they feel the pride of being connected to such an 794 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: incredible community and what I hope they think is an 795 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 1: incredible organization in the Navy Seal Foundation. Wow, perfect answers. 796 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Robin for being so generous with 797 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: your time. We have been speaking with Robin King. She 798 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: is the CEO of the Navy Seals Foundation. If you 799 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: enjoy this conversation, well check out all of our previous 800 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: three and something podcasts over the past six years. You 801 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: can find that at iTunes, Spotify, Google podcast, Overcast, Stitcher, 802 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: wherever finer podcasts are sold. We love your comments, feedback 803 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: and suggestions. You can write to us at m IB 804 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: podcast at Bloomberg dot net. Be sure to give us 805 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: a review on Apple iTunes. 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