1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: It's good to see you. What's going on. How you 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: guys holding up? It's gonna be here, man, I appreciate it. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: Everything's going well. The weather is, uh, definitely hitting a 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: low kind of my type of weather, being up from 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: an up north guy. And uh, shorts have been on 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: all week and I've been joining it. How things with you. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: We're hanging in there. Three weeks ago, we're not shoveling snow, 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: which is good news. Um, let's let's get into the 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: challenge this week for this Jaguars defense. We know the 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: running games the last few weeks that this Jaguars defense 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: has seen Cleveland ran the ball well, Derrick Henry ran 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: the ball well. This is a different field. This is 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: a read option type of thing. And when you have 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Lamar Jackson that can go the distance 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: from anywhere on the field, that adds just a different 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: element to everything. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean you 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: taught you start. Um. You know with with Lamar everything 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: goes through him. Um. You know, from a run game standpoint, 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, just a dynamic player. Um. Obviously from a 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: running standpoint, you know, change the direction to speed on 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: the elimeter, you know, and then obviously he has a 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: quarterback that has dropped back capabilities, you know, where now 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: you have that element of quarterback movement, whether it's bootlegs, 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: sprint outs, you know, and everything that this guy possesses. 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: You know, the guys are reigning, uh you know NFL 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: m v P. So, I mean there's a reason why 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: this guy is so dynamic, you know. And then you 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: go into the run game with the three stable backs 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: that they have, you know, you know, very big, physical, 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: bruising running backs. They got a big hold old line. Um. So, yeah, 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: it's very demanding on us up front. You know, we 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: know that every single week. But we have a big challenge, 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, being a signment football. Um, you know, we 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: all have an opportunity to go out there and you know, 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: stick our hands and run our feet through somebody up 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: front squeezing some gaps off and have an opportunity to uh, 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, tackle one of the best quarterbacks, if not 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the National Football League. If you're 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: a defensive end and you're running free and all of 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: a sudden he pulls it out, I mean, what do 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: you look for in a read option? Yeah, you know 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: you got you got different assignments like you're talking about 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: right there. You know, our our defensive ents could be 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, responsible for different things and some of the 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: option football that we are seeing, you know, and you've 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: got to pursue that, you know, inside out. You know. 47 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: One of the biggest things that you know, we've been 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: telling our d line is that, you know, if you 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: can pursue Lamar inside out, meaning that you're making him 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: run lateral, you know, to the sideline. You know, that's 51 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: the surest tackle in the National Football leagues, the sideline. 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean that that sidelines never missed a tackle, not 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: in every game I've been and seen too. So you know, 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: you're forcing that guy that way and and trying to 55 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: pursue it and run it down, you know, so he 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: can't get his shoulder square getting running down onto your 57 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: second level or your safeties. You know what. That guy, 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: you know obviously flashes and his dynamic ability definitely shows 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: up in those situations. Jason with US Jaguars defensive line coach, 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Let's get into a few of your guys up front 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and calebon Chaison seems to be starting to get stronger 62 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and stronger as the last few weeks have gone what's 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: clicking now for him? Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: and one thing, Jps, you know, I think you and 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: I have had conversations, you know, earlier this year, you know, 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: in our in our you know, minimal camp that we 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: had and O. T. A. S. You know, And and 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: the thing is is, you know you need reps. You know, 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: you've got to understand that there's footwork involved in pass rush. 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: There's you know, a comfort level with the guy next 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: to you, and pass rush you got to analyze the 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: tackle that you're going against. Is he a high puncher? 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Is or lower puncher? Where's this set point? There's a 74 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: lot of analyzation of what your pass rush moves are 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna be. And now he's getting a feel of how 76 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: to break that down, how to see it, how to 77 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: critique it. Where's my plant foot gotta be, where's my 78 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: hands gotta be, where's my aiming point? And you're starting 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: to see JP, You're exactly right. You know things are 80 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: turning around. Um, he's getting more confident and everything you know, 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: and more confident you are, and something the better and better. 82 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna look to go pick on it more and 83 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: get better at it and get better at it and 84 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: it's it's click, it's working, you know, and uh and 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: it's great to see you know. Calevon is one of 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: those guys that wants to get better, loves to get better, 87 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: always asking questions, constantly on my phone, constantly on email, 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: sending me things, you know, and that's what you love 89 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: about the young man, you know, the the guy wants 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: to be one of the best players and premier players 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Get love that when the 92 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: when the phone never stops digging and it's your premier 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: pass rushure. That's guy's right. You don't get those guys 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: all the time. Jason Refuss with US Jaguars defensive line 95 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: coach Dwan Smoot in a contract year and getting some 96 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: playing time and taking advantage of that playing time. It's 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: a big year obviously for Dwan Smoot. What have you 98 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: seen out of him in the last month or so? Yeah, 99 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: no question, I mean Smoots one of our leaders. Um. 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: You know, he comes out here on a daily basis, 101 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: whether it's UH meeting time or obviously in the practice elements, 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: and and he's obviously producing. You know, he's going out 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: there not only in the UH pass game. You know, 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the few statistical socks that he's had in the last 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, a few weeks, but obviously in the run game, 106 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, it does a really good job of straining 107 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: and setting the edges. You know, he's getting better at 108 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: you know, his his movements and stunts, you know, getting 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: vertical and getting t TFLs and you know, and stopping 110 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the run and owning his gap and all that good stuff. 111 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: So he is definitely a guy that's improved, you know, 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: through the duration of the season and the duration of 113 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: his career that he's been here in Jacksonville. And it's 114 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: a pleasant you know, and I know that he's going 115 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: through you know contract, nobody's shying away from it. We 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: all know those situations too, and he's definitely showing out 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: there and producing, which is great to see for him 118 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: and great to see for us. One of the strange 119 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: things about the National Football League is that you can 120 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: have a year like twenty seventeen, or you have one 121 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: of the great defenses of all time and franchise history, 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: and only a few years later, a lot of those 123 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: guys go different places. Well, Calais Campbell and Unique and 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: Cockway have both been traded away. They both end up 125 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: in Baltimore on the Ravens, the team the Jags are 126 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: playing this week. How strange is it? I know you've 127 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: been around this league for a while now and you've 128 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: probably seen some of this kind of thing before, But 129 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: how strange will it be to see Calais and John 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: on the other side, you know, jp the world that 131 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: you're using strange? You know that that that's not the 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: first world that comes to me. You know, I feel 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: it as a privilege and an honor, you know, to 134 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: have that opportunity in the time that I was you know, 135 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: I've been here in Jacksonville to be able to coach 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: those two young men who are not only good football 137 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: players e League football players in National Football League, but 138 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: they're great men. And I had the honor to be 139 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: around them men. And uh um, it's gonna be a 140 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: great time, you know. I mean, obviously that opportunity to 141 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: go against these guys. You know. The one thing is 142 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: is our players we always talk about is being competitive. 143 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Well some of us coaches are too, you know, and 144 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be competitive against John and Calais, And 145 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: believe me, my competitive spirits gonna be out against them 146 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: guys too. So that don't get me wrong, there'd be 147 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: a few flashes of my eyes every once in a 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: while looking out there, obviably seeing them playing a little 149 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: bit of defense. But uh, you know, we're gonna treat 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: this just like any other game. You know, we're going 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: out there. You know, they're purple and black and we're 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: tealing gold, and we're gonna go out there and do 153 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: the things that we need to do necessary to go 154 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: win a ballgame. Great stuff. I always get to visit 155 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: with you. Let's get a w. I appreciate you, t P. 156 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much.