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Speaker 3: We got one. It's just a short and sweet five

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Speaker 3: star review says rip Pac twelve. Long Live the Apostles.

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Speaker 3: And since you just announced what our new name will be,

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Speaker 3: I gotta go secure that Twitter handle so nobody else takes.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn boom. Got to secure that for the podcast

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Speaker 2: actually comes out. Good thing is not lied because somebody

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Speaker 2: Not so fast, my friend. All right, So we still

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Speaker 2: got a lot going on. The conference had I would

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Speaker 2: say the conference had a good week. I mean, granted,

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Speaker 2: that was the optimal result for the conference, not the

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Speaker 2: optimal result for USC, and that led to a big firing.

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Speaker 2: What could have like, so Washington beat USC fifty two

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Speaker 3: On Sunday, Uh that last Washington score would have been

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Speaker 3: had given up forty five, as long as USC won

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Speaker 3: on that, Lincoln Riley was going to continue to it it.

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Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley was going to ride to Alex Grinch train

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Speaker 3: to head and it ends with your star quarterback sobbing

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Speaker 3: at the end of the game, you don't You don't

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Speaker 3: have a choice anymore. You broke your quarterback with your

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Speaker 2: So you believe that, well, I would tend to agree

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think at least another week. I

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Speaker 3: well just put that on Alex Grinch's plate too, since

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Speaker 3: you decided to waste your returning Heisman winner quarterbacks entire

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Speaker 3: It's always a tough pill to swallow for a major

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Speaker 2: Okay, so can you okay, so can we actually like

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Speaker 2: this is my second year at USC, I can bring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, except that he already in his this year admitted

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Speaker 2: So see, I mean, okay, well, I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 2: message boards, guess what two names they're throwing out just constantly.

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Speaker 2: One of them is the most unrealistic thing that I

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Speaker 2: Will Muschamp is at Georgia. Do we believe and I

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Speaker 2: Do you know what Oregon was doing yesterday in practice?

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Speaker 3: So football, Yes, When do you do.

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Speaker 2: You think that Lincoln Riley is having a live tackling

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Speaker 3: No, because of probably anything that provides any downside for

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Speaker 2: So, if you're a top tier defensive coordinator and you

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Speaker 3: How does that work? That's a great question. And I

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Speaker 3: so probably Morgan Scalley. Morgan Scalley ever leaving Salt Lake.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the original plan for him before he got

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Speaker 2: And now they're trying to get him further and further

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Speaker 2: So and the other name they bring up is Jim Leonard,

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Speaker 3: Granted, huge, huge Gym Leonard fan.

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Speaker 2: So if if I were them, I'd be like I

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Speaker 3: Two ralph something like that.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you two point four. Come over here, give

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Speaker 2: he has question marks for next year at the quarterback position. Bro,

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Speaker 2: this kid, there is a world where and granted, Lincoln

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Speaker 2: you know how many playoff games he's won with those dudes?

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Speaker 2: Zero. That's a that scary stuff, bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because eventually it comes time to buckle down, get

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Speaker 3: know you can't just no offensive football. You can't just

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Speaker 3: You know, the the Alex Grinch thing is very it's

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Speaker 3: very very simple. You have told your players that accountability

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Speaker 3: Riley threw way more credibility hanging on to Alex Grinch

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Speaker 3: And that's you know, I tell you what man. If

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Speaker 3: not trying a negative recruit against this program. It's just

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Speaker 3: in a way that like a sense. Washington ran for

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Speaker 2: Pre contentent pre contact.

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Speaker 3: Pre contact, he ran for one ninety nine pre contact,

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Speaker 2: That means you're mean you. I means you aren't even

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Speaker 3: One ninety nine pre contact thirty seven percent of his

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Speaker 3: Week ten. That's why, and the best per foreman by

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Speaker 3: a running back at University of Washington in seventy three years.

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Speaker 3: The fact that Alex Grinch came out in the second

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Speaker 3: else he's ever gone through or done in his entire

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Speaker 2: You're saying he should have tarmacked them at have time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, he should not. That game mattered. That game mattered,

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Speaker 3: You have handicapped your ability for your own fan base

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Speaker 2: That's not good, brother, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: But Connor Stallions is available.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, he'll he'll get he'll get you right, he

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Speaker 3: I believe it all right.

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Speaker 2: The next thing, Hey, that man's a go go get her.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 3: No no, I I agree. I agree with you, and

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Speaker 3: That doesn't. That doesn't exist for any other team with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's different. It's different though, Ralph, because because

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Speaker 3: Not according to the College Football Plaoff.

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Speaker 2: Rankin correct Bingo. And then the other part of it

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Speaker 2: Texas has the best win, it's against Alabama. Dude, Alabama

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Speaker 2: That does not look like a team that can beat

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Speaker 2: then why don't you have that same energy for Michigan.

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Speaker 2: totally different. Well, then Washington should be if by your logic,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I don't the pushback against Michigan. I

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Speaker 2: Okay, how much of that is because their defense has

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Speaker 3: It's true, it's true, But then you throw out the

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Speaker 3: What you can't do is argue that Michigan's schedule is good.

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Speaker 2: So now now peep this what's upcoming this week Michigan,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it sucks because the reputation and brand matters,

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that is one hundred percent, right, So and

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Speaker 3: There's almost nothing Oregon can do to say our schedule

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's starting to feel like is if Washington

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is depending yep. Everybody is dependent upon upon each

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Speaker 2: that you stumble, they will act like you ain't, like,

439
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: like you are a turd on the toilet, buddy, right?

440
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: And and and when does Oregon usually stumble? November? Right?

441
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: And when do these SEC teams typically hold for and

442
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: rise November?

443
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: Yep?

444
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: What is what is happening on Saturday, November eighteenth? This

445
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: is happening Chattanooga. You teach Chattanooga at Alabama University of

446
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: Louisiana and Row at Ole, miss Southern Miss at Mississippi State, Abilene,

447
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: Christian at Texas A and M New Mexico State at Auburn,

448
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: Florida International at Arkansas, Georgia State at LSU. That's what's

449
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: happening on November eighteenth in the SEC. Dude week November

450
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: eighteenth in the PAC twelve is business as usual? Ed?

451
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: So is it in the Big ten? So is it

452
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. We need to make a video

453
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: about that, Ralph, about how these November cupcakes. How they

454
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: actually impact the college football playoff because this is where

455
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: losses matter, and when you have good conference and then

456
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: the eight team conference game schedule versus nine, that is

457
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: four losses in the SEC that they have to spread

458
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: around between every team four four and a half in

459
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: team in conferences that play nine games, typically the PAC

460
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: twelve with twelve teams four and a half losses that

461
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: have to be spread out, So that means you're gonna

462
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: have six extra losses through the whole conference that have

463
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: to be spread out and throughout November when the rankings

464
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: matter and all of that. So, now of a sudden,

465
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: an Oregon State Arizona game, Now the SEC teams that

466
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: are playing cupcakes, now those team losses lost. Now all

467
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got a three loss team versus

468
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: two loss team when they played Chattanooga, and all of

469
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: a sudden, it is that's why they won't move to

470
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: nine conference games, and everybody knows it.

471
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: It's horrendous and nice to feel like I finally have

472
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: something in common with the SEC because we're both out

473
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: here getting fat eating cupcakes in November.

474
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of a team that's not getting fat eating anything.

475
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: Here's what Jake Dickard had to say about what's going

476
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: on at WAZU.

477
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a great question question, you know,

478
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: because I think in today's world you can no longer

479
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: just say like passion and spirit it's going to get

480
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: you buy anymore. I mean, it's just completely real that

481
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: the NIL matters, and the facts are Washington State were

482
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: way behind, not even competitive in some aspects of the NIL, right,

483
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: and you know, recruiting you get, I mean, these kids

484
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: tell you what they're getting, you know, so you know,

485
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: Oregon State probably has US by ten x. You know,

486
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 4: Arizona has US by twenty x. I mean, USC, Washington, Oregon,

487
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: who even knows, Right, it's a.

488
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: Whole nother planet.

489
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: That's part of what we need, and it's very very important.

490
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: In three weeks that is going to be open target

491
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: season on our players. That's what it's gonna be.

492
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 5: And it's already started, right, So no, that's what's coming.

493
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: We need to provide them with as much resources as

494
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: we possibly have here to keep this team together, to

495
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: keep recruiting, to keep going.

496
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: It's the it's the future of college football, and to ignore.

497
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: It or what everything is going to go away that's

498
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: a long time in the horizon, right, So I think

499
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: it's only gonna grow in some capacity. And I'm very

500
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: supportive of the players getting a piece of the puzzle

501
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 4: and profiting off their name and his likeness.

502
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: I've said that many times up here.

503
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: But what did that sound? What did that sound like?

504
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: To you?

505
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: The truth sounded like the truth. It did come after

506
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: losing ten to seven to Stanford at home. But to me,

507
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: it sounds like the truth. And it also sounds like

508
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: a shot at the NCAA because when he says it's

509
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: already started, what he means is that his players are

510
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: being actively recruited to join other teams while still in season.

511
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: We know that happened.

512
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know specifically for Washington State players, but

513
00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: I know that there are a couple of teams who

514
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: are looking for quarterbacks for next year already, that they

515
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: are looking for kids to hop out of the to

516
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: hop into portal, and there are feelers being put out already.

517
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: It's four weeks until the transfer portal officially opens. How

518
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: many teams do you think have already made contact in

519
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: some form or another with that Boise State wide receiver

520
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: that jumped into the portal mid season.

521
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, technically's not in the portal, but that's what I'm saying.

522
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: No, that's the point that I'm making. Eric McCallister left

523
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: Boise State. He's their leading receiver. He's almost got as

524
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: many catches and yards as all the other receivers at

525
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Boise State combined. He left with three games to go

526
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: in the season to get a jump start on portal recruiting.

527
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: That doesn't happen until the first week of December. That's

528
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: four weeks away. I'm asking you how many teams you

529
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: think have been in contact with him?

530
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: At least at least a dozen.

531
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Isaiah Glass just left Arizona State mid season. He's

532
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: already being followed by ten college football coaches on social

533
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: media that weren't following him last week.

534
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: You say contact, No, it's a coincidence. Well there, they

535
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: just wanted to make sure to follow him at this point.

536
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: That way, when the portal opens, then they can have

537
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: a conversation with him. You see what I'm saying. Everything's okay,

538
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: everything's right and upstanding. Ralph, So I looked at this

539
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: as a guy who is doesn't know It's almost like

540
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: you don't know where your next meal is coming from yeah,

541
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: because you literally Washington State in Oregon State literally do

542
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: not have a football schedule for next year. They have

543
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: three non conference games and that's it.

544
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: Didn't you have Oregon State Washington's State fans calling you

545
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: idiots and them saying that they're actually in a better

546
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: position than they ever could hope for because they got

547
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: all this money in the bank and they're gonna be

548
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: sitting here by themselves. Didn't that happen this week?

549
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: Yes, that did happen this week? And I was like, wait,

550
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: hold up, what are you talking about, bro? So you

551
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: think because you file the lawsuit, you think that the

552
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: judge is going to give what even if they even

553
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: if you get decision making power, You think that one

554
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: hundred million, two hundred well, however many well hundreds of

555
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: millions that have to get distributed to the other teams.

556
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: You think that a judge while they're still in the

557
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: conference and they earned it, forget about the stuff when

558
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: they leave. You think that the money that they are

559
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: this year, that a judge is gonna be like, yep,

560
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: give it to Oregon State. In Washington State when they're

561
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: still under contract, they're still honoring the television rights and

562
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: all the stuff that they're doing. Right now, you think

563
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: that the money for this year is not going in

564
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: those schools pockets, you have another thing coming, buddy, another

565
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: thing coming.

566
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: I just want to point out that, uh, Jayatha Murphy,

567
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: the president of Oregon State University, has came out and

568
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: said that the total athletic revenue will likely fall by

569
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: about forty four percent in twenty twenty five. Your own

570
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: staff note, like the president of your college knows you're

571
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: in trouble. Don't think that even if you do get

572
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: to control two hundred million dollars between two schools, that

573
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: that's not going to become a problem later on down

574
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: the line. How many professional athletes and lottery winners go broke.

575
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good percent of them. Yeah, you're gonna

576
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: get a big financial windfall at the gate. You think

577
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to budget your way to like

578
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: your spending is going to have to be cut drastically

579
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: for sustainability. If you don't have a home in a

580
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: in another conference. Just because you hit that JG. Wentworth

581
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: it's your money and you need it now, doesn't mean

582
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: you're not gonna eny money later on.

583
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: Wentworth eight seven seven cash now.

584
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: Right, you're not gonna stop needing cash in the future.

585
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: That money also had like it's got to be spent.

586
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: Yes, it's you're gonna spend almost what what sixty they're

587
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: they're probably spending sixty eighty million dollars on their on

588
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: their athletic stuff.

589
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: Their twenty twenty three twenty twenty four athletic budget at

590
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: Oregon State is ninety five million.

591
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so if you have hundreds of millions, so

592
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: like even if you got four hundred million dollars that'll

593
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: pay for this year next year, And now all of

594
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: a sudden, you lie, what what are we gonna do?

595
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? Because you literally don't have

596
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: money coming in for next year. You have four games

597
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: on your schedule, You have your three non conference games,

598
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: and your game against Washington State or Oregon State, depending

599
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: on what team you're talking about.

600
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: You don't have much.

601
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: So and this is the part that sucks because I had,

602
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: I tweeted out, I said, the Oregon Washington game, I'm

603
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: the Oregon Oregon State game not being played is just tough,

604
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna take some getting used to it. And

605
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: they were like, Oregon could have done it if they

606
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: wanted to. How Bro, Oregon has thirteen game schedule for

607
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: next year, thirteen because they couldn't get out of the

608
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: Hawaii game for whatever reason. And they're like, well, they

609
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: could have found a way. I said, Oregon State has

610
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: three conference games schedule during the exact same three non

611
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: conference games scheduled during the exact same time as Oregon

612
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: has three conference games. I'm sorry, three non conference games.

613
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: So when do you do it well during the conference?

614
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: You can't. It couldn't be done that quickly, So I'm

615
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 2: sorry it stinks. I hope the game gets played again.

616
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: All right, Morgan State's whole schedule is gonna look like

617
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: SEC in November next year.

618
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: Yes, but see what the actually no, because the problem

619
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: is how are they those are by games? How they're

620
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna buy him?

621
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: They got two hundred million dollars.

622
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see. Hey, speaking of two hundred million dollars,

623
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: your boy Dilly Kenny Dillingham has a new grand spanking

624
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: new contract, well contract extension. He got a one year deal, bro,

625
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: one year deal. And you can explain to people how

626
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: how this came about? For what a two win team, two.

627
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: Win team that just got me by fifty two. Uh,

628
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: that wasn't the biggest surprise that came in. Well, that

629
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: wasn't a surprise at all. Brian Ward, the defensive coordinator,

630
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: he signed a three year extension. I didn't even know

631
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: three year extensions were available to Arizona State assistant coaches,

632
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: So that was that was pretty.

633
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: Cool to see because they've only done two Yeah.

634
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe I'm not as informed as I need

635
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: to be, but I was under the understanding that a

636
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: two year deal was kind of the It was one

637
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 3: of the stumbling blocks with the Board of Regents that

638
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: it was made it harder to retain coaches. But Brian

639
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: Ward is from Arizona. This gives him long term security

640
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: in the place where he's from, working alongside a coach

641
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: who now is his five year deal. It continues to

642
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: be a five year deal after this year because he

643
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: was told when he signed his initial five year contract

644
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: coach airson A State, if ASU faced a bullban that

645
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: they would extend his contract commensurate with what the penalty was.

646
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: So if the NCAA comes back and says one year

647
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: bulban's not enough, we're gonna we're gonna hit you with

648
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: another one. Then technically that would also justify another year

649
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: on top of that for Kenny Dillingham. So Kenny Dillingham's

650
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: five year deal goes to a six year deal. I

651
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: think it's a good thing. He's somebody who intends on

652
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: being around for a really long time. It's just a

653
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: matter of whether or not the punishments that exist for

654
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: this school handicap airs on a state long term and

655
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: how much people are trying to hold Kenny Dillingham accountable

656
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: for the sins of herm Edwards and Antonio Pierce and

657
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: Ray Anderson. So shout out to Antonio Piers, by the way,

658
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: head coach Las Vegas Raiders. How about that?

659
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: Hey, we got a video coming out on that on

660
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: the YouTube channel too, So you guys keep it, keep

661
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: it in tune and make sure that you guys are

662
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: going over there check out all of that stuff. Now

663
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: it is now Onto the games, Ralph, Onto the Games?

664
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: Or did I miss anything?

665
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: No? I think that's all the news. But make sure

666
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 3: you hit us up at past twelve apostles on Twitter.

667
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm mad at on Afraid show dot com. Anything that

668
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: you sent us, we will we'll talk about.

669
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: Yep, it's fact. Jack I was thinking about the comment

670
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: that we got on Twitter from from from last week

671
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: that we're not going to acknowledge right now. All right,

672
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: So the games happened, and we'll start with the USC

673
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: Washington game. Actually no, no, we won't, because we talked

674
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: about that a little bit. I think the UCLA Arizona

675
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: game did deserve some consideration. Arizona twenty seven, u c

676
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: l A number nineteen u c l A ten. This

677
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: was painful to watch, Ralph. I'm sitting here with my

678
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: with my wife, and this was and this was painful

679
00:40:53,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: to watch because Noah Fafiita was absolutely excellent. He was excellent. Yeah,

680
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: he like the dude is playing at a very high level.

681
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: I think it is very clear who their quarterback is now.

682
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think that if he can't pull

683
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: him out now, correct?

684
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, correct, you are correct. Yeah, not me, you

685
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: That's what you wanted to hear.

686
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: And but the reason why it was painful is because

687
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: you're watching the opposite problem that you that USC has.

688
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: If you put u CLA's defense with us he's offense,

689
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: what would happen, Ralph.

690
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: Championship?

691
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you'd be the best team in college football?

692
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: Dead ass.

693
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: But you had Ethan Garber's come out, and Arizona's defense

694
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: is underrated. They're playing pretty dog on well. And but

695
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: the U c l A offense has been on the

696
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: struggle bus. They were on the struggle bus versus Colorado,

697
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: so I knew that they were gonna have trouble against Arizona.

698
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: Hence why I picked Arizona. And then you had Ethan

699
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: Garber's get hurt. Dante Moore came in and Dante Moore

700
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: did not look confident. He didn't look confident when when

701
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: when he came in and then what what what happened

702
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: to him? He got hurt? He ends up back in

703
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: the locker room. So then they got to bring out

704
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 2: Colin Slee, who is a runner. He went zero for five.

705
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: If Chip Kelly is gonna be running essentially wildcat this

706
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: weekend with because it doesn't look like because because Ethan

707
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: Garbers couldn't even walk, so I would highly doubt that

708
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: we see him play this.

709
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: Week is gonna be Colin Schlee versus Cam Scataboo quarterback.

710
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: We might see ten total passes.

711
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: Or he gonna have to do something with or he's

712
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: gonna have to do something with I don't know Justin

713
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: Justin Martin or I don't know who is going to

714
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: bring out of the out of the fold. Yeah, because

715
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: that's it.

716
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: I can't have to two teams with with with three

717
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: quarterbacks each, two teams with three quarterbacks each, and and

718
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna face each other in week eleven with probably

719
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: no quarterbacks.

720
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Yep. And Arizona did a good job of stopping to

721
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: run UCLA with did they?

722
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: Did?

723
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: They? Did?

724
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: They?

725
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: Twenty five carries for one hundred and thirty four yards

726
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: isn't terrible? That's five point four yards of carry? Did you? U?

727
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: CLA did a pretty good job of stopping themself.

728
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: So true? True? True. I was including that that Ethan Garber's,

729
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: but UCLA typically wants to run the ball significantly more

730
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: like they want to get up near near fifty. So

731
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying that they did a good enough job to

732
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: where yeah, they kept UCLA in longer distances.

733
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: You're right, because I took out the Ethan Garber's numbers,

734
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: but I didn't take out call Callen shleep, yeah, sleep right.

735
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: So I mean that between Carson Steele and TJ. Harden,

736
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: seventeen carries for sixty eight yards that's actually pretty damn good.

737
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: So yeahbe you're more right than man.

738
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm on a roll today. All right, the next game up, Uh,

739
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: let's go to Oregon Cow Oregon sixty three cal nineteen.

740
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks was sensational in this game, sin sensational. There's

741
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: a video coming out about him and the Heisman Trophy.

742
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: So bo Nicks was incredible. Dude, I gave and and

743
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: if I hear his brother tans Walker again, it's like

744
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: the thing that I was like, Yogi please hmmm.

745
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: You know what you know what kills me about about

746
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: it is they just throw adopted in there, like we

747
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: can't figure out that these are two different colors. Just

748
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: say his brother. Yeah, I'm fine, would be fine if

749
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: it actually went down the way that you were saying.

750
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: I would be fine if they said his brother tes Walker.

751
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 3: But they they say adopted with a capital.

752
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: A, like like, well, I think they're trying to emphasize

753
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: that they're actually real family and then that and not

754
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: just his brother.

755
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: Man, oh, I don't mean this the way that it's

756
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: gonna sound, But Yogi Roth is not one to not

757
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: hit the hard R stupid his adopted brother tes Walker.

758
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: You're not Tess Walker. Like, did I hear a brother once? No,

759
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: Yogi's the best. Like, you don't got to throw out

760
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: there that he's adopted. Adopted means chosen, right. Adopted means chosen,

761
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: It means elected, It means brought into the fold. Right.

762
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: You could just say brother. If an adoption is really

763
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: that's your brother.

764
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: Very very true.

765
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: So saying adopted makes it sound like adoption is not

766
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: really adoption, then it doesn't count.

767
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: Well, very true, very true. So bon Nicks threw for

768
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 2: four touchdowns one pick, and the pick wasn't even his fault.

769
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: His brother, his adopted brother, tes Walker, on the first

770
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: play of the game, dropped an interception. If you understand

771
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: what I mean, he dropped the past for an intersection.

772
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: I said, Tess Walker. Now you said Tess Walker.

773
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: Oh, Tesz Johnson, Lord of Mercy. So, yeah, he was sensational.

774
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: You had Bucky Irving was good, Jordan James. Bucky got

775
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: a little banged up, but he'll be back this week.

776
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: Dante Dodwell took carries bro this game got out of hand.

777
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tess Johnson was responsible for two turnovers?

778
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 5: Yes?

779
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: Or was it? Or was the center? Was that the

780
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 3: center's fault.

781
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I mean they credited him with

782
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: a fumble though.

783
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: Tess Johnson. Yep, they credited his knee with a fumble,

784
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: got the ball, and they kicked the ball back toward

785
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: the cow En zone and they scored off that.

786
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

787
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 3: Hey, Oregon scored twenty one points in the final five

788
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: minutes of the first half in this one. Yeah, sometimes

789
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: it takes a while for the seal to break, but

790
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: when it broke, oh my lord.

791
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when he called time out on second down

792
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: in the first half, with like a minute and thirty

793
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: seconds to go in the second half, he was like like,

794
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: that was like an f you. We know we're going

795
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: to stop you, So we're not even wait until third

796
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: down to call time out. We're gonna make you play

797
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: football right here. You're not running the clock down. We're

798
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: gonna take this.

799
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: I got two things for you. Number one, credit to

800
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: you who said if all these other teams scored fifty

801
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 3: on Cow, you know Oregon's gonna get more than fifty

802
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 3: on Cow. And you also said, if Col's getting twenty

803
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: five on these teams, there's no way Cal's getting twenty

804
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: five on Oregon. The score played out exactly.

805
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: The way you said, and they got a free touchdown

806
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: and they got it.

807
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: They got yep, exactly. And the second thing I wanted

808
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 3: to throw out there is Justin will Cox is currently

809
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: the head coach of a college football team with the

810
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirtieth ranked scoring defense out of one

811
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: thirty three. One thirty. Oh.

812
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: I remember you talked about this because because the number

813
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: was like, they're giving up an average of like forty

814
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: nine points a game to ranked team. Yeah, and then

815
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: you said, if you throw out Utah, whose offense isn't

816
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: that great, it's like fifty five. Yeah, and now it's

817
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: like a million.

818
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 3: So if you include all their games this year, including

819
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: playing against Idaho, they are one thirty out of one

820
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: thirty three in scoring defense, and oh my god, Like,

821
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: I just think about the fact that they brought back

822
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator that they had under sunny Dyke's and

823
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: now his offenses were really good, but it never mattered

824
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: because sunny Dyke's defenses gave up fifty a game. And

825
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: he's right back in the same situation. Jake Spavital has

826
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: to hate the Bay right now.

827
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So, so I had this conversation with Deshaun Foster.

828
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: I said, so, can you have an offense.

829
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: That is so.

830
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: Incredibly explosive, like you said at USC, like you're seeing

831
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 2: over at Cow, which is doing a good job going

832
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: fast all of this. Can you have that and put

833
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: together a top tier defense too?

834
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: I don't.

835
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's possible because of what we

836
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: mentioned with Lincoln Riley and your philosophy is not matching.

837
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well, okay. Yardage and scoring I feel like

838
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: are two different things because I feel like, you know,

839
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: both can be deceptive, right but scoring Oregon is one

840
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: and eleven right now. They're first in the country in

841
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 3: points per game, and they're eleventh in opponent points per game.

842
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: Shout out Greg McElroy.

843
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, so I guess it can be. It's

844
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: just tough, bro, It's just very, very tough to do.

845
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: If you're in the top you're the If you are

846
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: the top thirteen, you're in the top ten percent of

847
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: college football. To me, the top ten percent is the

848
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: elite of the elite. Right now, Oregon hasn't the best

849
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: offense and an elite defense, in my opinion, not a

850
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: perfect defense. They can get god, especially in the secondary

851
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: but it's an elite defense at this point in time,

852
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: it's possible. So for all those people, the USC people

853
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 3: that were making excuses for Grench, they've disappeared, by the way.

854
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: But for the one saying it's the way we run

855
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: our offense that actually causes our defense to have trouble. No,

856
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: it isn't one hundred and ninety nine yards before contact.

857
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: That doesn't have anything to do with your offense.

858
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 2: Nope. Okay, So question here, what do you think about

859
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza.

860
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: It's fun, He's fun as hell.

861
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm I And that's the quarterback is for cow who's

862
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: starting right right now in case you didn't.

863
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, I don't think he's won a game, and

864
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: I think he was probably the first one to point

865
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: that out.

866
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: But like he's been better than anything that they got

867
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: sitting there right now.

868
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: I make the same argument for for Mendoza that I

869
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 3: make for Trenton Boorgay. Do you want your offense to

870
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: move or not? With what you have going going on

871
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 3: right now? Do you want your offense to move or

872
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: do you not want your offense to move? That's it,

873
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: because anything else is we want a quarterback who's not

874
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: in the building. And that's not an argument that I

875
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: can entertain with you because that quarterback's.

876
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: Not because I think that Mendoza, who's young, can can

877
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: develop into a good quarterback.

878
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's fun. He might develop some some bad habits

879
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: playing from behind all the time, but he could play.

880
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: And the problem for Cal is last year that he

881
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: had two quarterbacks that looked like they could play a

882
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: little bit. And the moment they looked like they could

883
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: play a little bit, they ended up a target for

884
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: other teams. Uh.

885
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: But were they a target for other teams or they

886
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: just wanted to get away from Cal?

887
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: Great question, great question.

888
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: Oregon State twenty six Colorado nineteen.

889
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: This game nineteen asterisk. Put an asterisk on that nineteen

890
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: because fourteen of that game in garbage time.

891
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nothing, This game was nowhere near as Kloe says

892
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: this score said. And I don't know whether, like, I

893
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: don't know what to think about that really, because Oregon

894
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: State only putting up twenty six points on Colorado is alarming.

895
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: That's alarming. DJ only completed fifty of his passes.

896
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: I thought like Colorado's defense played inspired football.

897
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: I do.

898
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 3: I thought they played really well.

899
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: They're not good, though, like that.

900
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: No, they're not good. You can have a good game

901
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: every once in a while. And I think they stepped up. Yeah,

902
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: they only this is why I say that the longest

903
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: run of the game for Oregon State came from aid and.

904
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: Child yep, twenty three yards for attack.

905
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: It's a huge improvement to me. If you take that

906
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: twenty three yard runout. If you take that twenty three

907
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: yard runout, you're talking about forty five carries for Oregon State.

908
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: So Oregon State did did what they needed. Do they

909
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 3: stay dedicated to that run game against a bad defense?

910
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 3: But we're talking about forty five carries for one hundred

911
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: and seventy two yards. Oh, so that's what you should

912
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: that's what you.

913
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: Should share under four yards to carry at that point.

914
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the Colorado deserves a lot of credit for

915
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: the way they showed up defensively in this game. But

916
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: what happened on offense? Did they do something this week

917
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: to change the offense? George?

918
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: Yes, they they They demoted Sean Lewis as their coordinator

919
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: and put Pat Shermer in place as their coordinator. And

920
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: because apparently, and there's a video on this on the

921
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: YouTube channel about Pat Nardoozi and Dion criticizing their players,

922
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: Dion specifically the offensive line. I hope you guys enjoy it.

923
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, we'll put a link to it in the

924
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: description too. So I don't know if this well, actually

925
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: I guess it may. It may have helped Ralph because

926
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: he only got sacked four times this game.

927
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he only got sacked four times. Still still

928
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: on pace to break to break some records. He's he's

929
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: a tough son of a bitch. Dude. I'm not how

930
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: is he walking? I'm not calling Pilar Sanders. If you

931
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: watch Pactove Apostles, I do not think that you're a bitch, dude.

932
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: It's an expression, dude.

933
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how this dude is how Shador Sanders

934
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: is still walking right now. I can't even imagine what

935
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: he feels like the day after the game. Two days

936
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: after the game. I don't even know how he can practice. Dude,

937
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: He's getting his ass kicked. This is gross. I mean,

938
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: it's it's to the point now that it's painful to watch.

939
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: This was the first time this game against Oregon State

940
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: was the first time where I was like, oh, a

941
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: couple of these are definitely him they're definitely him, yes

942
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: and like, and the broadcast was even calling him out.

943
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: But at the same time like part of the reason

944
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: he's not getting rid of the ball, And this is

945
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: just outsider's perspective. He's tired, he's tired, and sometimes the

946
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: only thing it feels like he has energy to do

947
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: is to go down. He looks dog tired. He's got it.

948
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's got to get the ball out of

949
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: his hands. Part of it is coordinatorship, but the other

950
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 2: part is they can't run the damn football. They cannot

951
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 2: run the football. They no they're running backs. Gave them

952
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: eleven carries for's twenty thirty one yards they were including

953
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 2: the seven should the seven for minus thirty seven from

954
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: shaudor you had, they were negative seven yards as a

955
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: team rushing.

956
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: Pretty incredible for Oregon State's defensive rushing stats to go up.

957
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: For them to take seven yards away from the total

958
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: yards that Oregon State has allowed on the season in

959
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: a mid season game is pretty incredible. They are a

960
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: long of eight. A long of eight. You can't And

961
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: we've talked about this, Colorado is up until this game

962
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: when I actually thought they played well on defense, a

963
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: fully fully one dimensional team.

964
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Yep, and you know how many. So Oregon State is

965
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: third in the conference. They've only allowed eight rushing touchdowns

966
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: on the entire season and an average of three point

967
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: three seven yards per rush, which is fifth behind Arizona, Oregon, Utah,

968
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: and UCLA. Ucla has only allowed one rushing touchdown on

969
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: the season and two point three yards two point three

970
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: yards a carry.

971
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: That's what and I hate to keep bringing everything back

972
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: to Alex Grinch, but that's what's so fascinating to me

973
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: is that there are twenty three teams in the country

974
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: right now that do not have ten rushing touchdowns on

975
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: the season. Colorado is one of them. They don't have

976
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: ten total rushing touchdowns right. USC gave up ten rushing

977
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: touchdowns in the last two games combined.

978
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: That's wow, So Oregon State, are you concerned at all

979
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: about them? Or was this game just a win? Is

980
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: a win?

981
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: We talked about the fact that they don't look good

982
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: in the road, and they don't look good against functional quarterbacks.

983
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: They have played three good quarterbacks and all three quarterbacks

984
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: were able to gash that defense a little bit. Right.

985
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: They had the advantage in this game of Colorado not

986
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: running a multi dimensional offense. If you have a good

987
00:58:53,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: quarterback and a marginally decent running game, going to kick

988
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: Oregon State's ass. Okay, So if you have any holes

989
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 3: in your offensive game whatsoever, they're going to exploit it.

990
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: At this point, it's a skill issue, not a will issue,

991
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: and I can't fault Oregon State for skill issues. They're

992
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: the recruits that they're getting. They're doing the best they

993
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: can with them.

994
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: They got Stanford this week. They cannot slip up against

995
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: Stanford because they got mofos the last two weeks of

996
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: the season in Washington and Oregon.

997
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: And they're in They're in Corvallis. I think that I

998
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: think the line on that game is is like cartoon

999
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: birds stupid. But like I think that, I think that

1000
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: Oregon State will be fine against Stanford. I hope.

1001
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: So all right, speaking of Stanford Stanford Washington State Stanford ten,

1002
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: Washington State seven. What happened to Washington State's offense?

1003
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: Bro they're both both these teams can go to hell

1004
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: for how they looked and goes straight to hell. Stanford

1005
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: had the ball. Stanford had the ball at like the

1006
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: ten going into the second half and tried to run

1007
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: with justin Lampson on fourth and one. They were only

1008
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: down seven nothing. They could have just taken the three

1009
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: points and they didn't. And they went into halftime down

1010
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 3: seven to nothing, and I was like, that might be

1011
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: Stanford's best chance to score.

1012
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: That might be it.

1013
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: But what I did not count on. What I did

1014
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: not count on was the fact that Washington State's defense

1015
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: would just get tired from all the short yardage stuff

1016
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: that Stanford was pulling, and that they would break down

1017
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: in the second half.

1018
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: They and also what I Stanford averaged two yards to

1019
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: carry and still ran it thirty eight times. They're like, Effett,

1020
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: we just go run it over and over and over

1021
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: and over and over for a long of thirteen.

1022
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: This game should have ended when this game should have

1023
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: been over when uh Stanford committed their first turnover in

1024
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: six games. By the way, shout out to Stanford for

1025
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: only having one turnover in the last six games. But

1026
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: Stanford turned the ball over deep in Stanford territory, like

1027
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: Washington State, had a chance to put this game away,

1028
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: and instead of running the ball or doing anything to

1029
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: like get good field position, kick the field goal and

1030
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: just take the lead. Because Stanford's offense couldn't do anything. Uh,

1031
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 3: cam Ward took multiple back to back losses. He took

1032
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: back to back sacks, and then Janikowski missed his second

1033
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: field goal the season.

1034
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: He's only people were I've heard people say, oh my god,

1035
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: Oregon should go after cam Ward next year. I'm like, no,

1036
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: they should not.

1037
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: No, No, they hold the ball. He holds the ball.

1038
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 3: He looks very different in bad weather. He will get

1039
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: impatient with you only giving him the short stuff, and

1040
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: he'll try to make some plays down the field, which

1041
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 3: will get him sacked because he'll hold the ball for

1042
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: too long. But the only reason that Washington State even

1043
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: had seven in this game is because cam Ward made

1044
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 3: a crazy play for a thirty nine year completion. This

1045
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: game sucked so bad. It sucked so bad. Stanford deserves credit.

1046
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: Stanford deserves credit. But since being ranked thirteenth in the country,

1047
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: Washington State has not won.

1048
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: Nope, Hey, bad luck thirteen. All right, last game?

1049
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: And what's crazy to me?

1050
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: Ugh?

1051
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

1052
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: All right, Utah gotta get right game. Sorry, I guess

1053
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: against Arizona State fifty five to three, How did you

1054
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: give Utah fifty five points? And I will admit I'm

1055
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: going to admit I did not watch this game, Ralph,

1056
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: because I saw because I was gonna go back and

1057
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: watch it, because I wasn't able to watch it at

1058
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: the at the time. So I was like, all right,

1059
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and watch it.

1060
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: And it was.

1061
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 2: And then I looked at the score twenty four to three,

1062
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: and then it just kept getting worse. I was like,

1063
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm not watching it. I'm not watching that game. And

1064
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: then you were giving me updates. You were like Cam

1065
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: scataboo'z our quarterback, and then you're like Jacob Jacob conover

1066
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: five for twenty two, Ralph, How did your quarterback go

1067
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: five for twenty two with a pick? Make it make

1068
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: sense to me?

1069
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I honestly, like, I will say

1070
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 3: that it says something about you as a person that

1071
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: you saw the score fifty five to three and you

1072
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 3: didn't go back and watch it. And I'm not saying

1073
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: that you're lazy. I'm saying that you're the type of

1074
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: person that if a video came across your timeline that

1075
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: was like man kicks Toddler off of bridge, that you

1076
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't click on it, because that's what this was. Kis

1077
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: man kicks Toddler off of bridge. It was painful. It

1078
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: was very painful to watch. I'll give Utah credit. First

1079
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: of all, Trent board Game got knocked out on like

1080
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: I think his first drop back.

1081
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, and he was doing better because he was

1082
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: three for six.

1083
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you. I called you before the game

1084
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 3: and I said, ASU starting a freshman that left tackle,

1085
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: this could be bad. And it was. It's not the

1086
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 3: first time they brought a freshman left tackle into Utah

1087
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 3: and left taking the worst loss of the season. So

1088
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: it's nice to see that this Arizona State team paying

1089
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: tribute to uh Jadan Daniels freshman year. But I will

1090
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: say this, Utah figured out that ASU didn't really have

1091
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: an answer for like bunch formation stuff, and that's how

1092
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 3: they scored the first touchdown. They kept going back to it,

1093
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: and ASU was just kind of confused on defense. A

1094
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: su kept losing players during the game, and there was

1095
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: this camera shot of Kenny Dillingham talking to to Kyle

1096
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: Whittingham on the sideline and you knew that they were

1097
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: talking about all the injuries both teams had faced, and

1098
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: you just knew that they were both like this year

1099
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: is insane. Like and so I don't know. I don't

1100
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 3: really have much to say about this game other than

1101
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 3: Utah did exactly what they were supposed to.

1102
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: They ran for three and fifty two yards on forty

1103
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: nine kids.

1104
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jacob Conover should be better than he was

1105
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 3: he hopefully with a full week to practice. Hopefully, with

1106
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: a full week to practice, it looks a little bit different.

1107
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: Maybe Trent Morgay will be ready. I don't know. But bad, bad,

1108
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 3: bad game, bad game, bad sit stay don't want to

1109
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: remember that one. And I'm I'm really unhappy that they're

1110
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: coming to the Big twelve with us.

1111
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: Hey, Kenny, Kenny got an extension though, So.

1112
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I did say that fifty five to three

1113
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: is going to be ASU's villain origin story. So this

1114
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: is rock bottom for us.

1115
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: All right, Well, this week we have games, and you

1116
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: got Arizona State at UCLA. Arizona State is in the

1117
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: as in the Rose Bowl, the granddaddy of them all,

1118
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: and UCLA is favored by seventeen points over under forty

1119
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: four and a half. So basically, you're probably gonna need

1120
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: Ucla to score all the points. I am going to

1121
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: go with Ucla. Oh god, minus seventeen. I don't even

1122
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: know who's going to quarterback for them. Get who's going

1123
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: to quarterback for UCLA. I actually I'm gonna go Ucla

1124
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: minus seventeen because they might win seventeen to zero. Okay,

1125
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely taking this under. I am under under, Okay,

1126
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't.

1127
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 3: I don't even have as like and I'm not an insider,

1128
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: but I'm maybe as close to an insider as you

1129
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: could get on you know, somebody who knows about what

1130
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: both of these teams have going on. I don't forty

1131
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: four and a half. I'm definitely taking the under. But

1132
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't Ucla winning by seventeen. I don't even know

1133
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: if they get to seventeen. This might be This might

1134
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: be Stanford Washington State. Part two might be a ten

1135
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 3: to seven game. So give me Arizona State in the under.

1136
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: Ooh ooh, you're feeling frisky, you.

1137
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: Know, Arizona State. Arizona State's the only team in the

1138
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: Pac twelve right now that can't make a bowl. So

1139
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: just shout out to the Pac twelve going into the

1140
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: tenth game that.

1141
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: Would say Colorado can't can't make a bowl. Eitherer brother.

1142
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: But that's a whole difference.

1143
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 3: But technic, technically they can They're not gonna win. They're

1144
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: not gonna win their twelfth game in the season, we

1145
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: know that. But if they win the next two weeks,

1146
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: they're still alive. So but that just goes to show

1147
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: when people talk about the strength of the Pac twelve,

1148
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 3: there is only one team eliminated heading into the tenth

1149
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 3: game of the season. For most teams, yep, who.

1150
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: And you have USC Oregon in Oregon. This line keeps falling.

1151
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: Oregon start opened up like minus actually started out like

1152
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: minus thirteen and a half, then it ballooned up to

1153
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half, and now it's it's uh, it's

1154
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: settling in around fifteen. Yeah, I am going to go

1155
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: with and it's over under seventy three and a half.

1156
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 2: Oregon might score all seventy three points.

1157
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 3: All right, I guess over feels like easy money.

1158
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, this feels like fifty six twenty four, uh fifty yeah,

1159
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: fifty six twenty four, fifty six twenty seven somewhere around there.

1160
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Oregon and the over because Oregon covers.

1161
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I I feel like USC could do the

1162
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 3: same thing they did to Washington last week and keep it,

1163
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 3: keep it close, but have it not really feel close. Yeah.

1164
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: So I'm actually gonna take USC in this game, and

1165
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 3: I and I love the over, but a two touchdown

1166
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 3: loss maybe makes more sense to me. USC can do

1167
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 3: the one thing that that Oregon has trouble defending. But

1168
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: it for Oregon to dominate in primetime. There's so much

1169
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: motivation to dominate because this game is gonna be on

1170
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: Fox seven thirty Pacific. A lot of people are gonna

1171
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: be watching.

1172
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, oh it's actually on Fox. It's not even

1173
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: on FS one ooh. See. Actually thought that they were

1174
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: gonna get the early game. But but thanks to like

1175
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: whoever had the ranked game, was gonna end up with

1176
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: the twelve thirty game. And now USC gotta play at

1177
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: night in Autsen. Lord have mercy.

1178
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, being afraid to tackle, Being afraid to tackle in

1179
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 3: sunny SoCal is one thing. Being afraid to tackle when

1180
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: it's forty eight degrees out.

1181
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: H Yes, and Bro, it's gonna be like the Boogeyman

1182
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: stepped in there. Bro, it's gonna be like that candy man,

1183
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 2: candy Man, candy Man. All right, you got Arizona Colorado

1184
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: Arizona minus ten and a half over under fifty four

1185
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: and a half. I don't believe in Colorado at all.

1186
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: Right right now?

1187
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: They do play better in Folsome. They're not gonna get

1188
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: embarrassed and Folsome. So I am going to go, but

1189
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't like this officer coordinator situation. I'm gonna take

1190
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: Arizona minus. Actually, I think it's gonna be a ten

1191
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: point victory, So give me Colorado. I don't feel good

1192
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: about this. Colorado plus ten and a half over under

1193
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: fifty four and a half. I'm going to take the

1194
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: what's that twenty seven each, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1195
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: take the under.

1196
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it it's okay. So if I'm Jed Fish going

1197
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 3: into Folesome in this game where you can get your

1198
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: seventh win of the season, you should probably be eight

1199
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 3: and one right now. You know you be lost a

1200
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: couple of games you should have won. I have one

1201
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: rule for my players, and I don't care if it

1202
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 3: makes you look like poor sports, and I don't care

1203
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: if I end up getting fine. No shaking hands, walk

1204
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 3: right off the field after the game. Because the only

1205
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: way that Arizona's losing in this game is if they

1206
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: lose players. Because if I'm Jonah Coleman, I'm not letting

1207
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 3: him shake Deon Sanders hands after the game. If I'm Palitom,

1208
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: my coaches aren't letting me get anywhere near Colorado's offensive line.

1209
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 3: Coach like the the only way Arizona could lose in

1210
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 3: this game is if is if if some of their

1211
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: players get recruited after it's over. Arizona is playing so

1212
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: physical right now, and they're comfortable with giving you yards

1213
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: as long as they don't give up the big play.

1214
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: It's just an awesome, awesome mix of football and well,

1215
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 3: ten and a half is kind of a wild line

1216
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 3: to me. I'm twelve to fourteen is where I'm comfortable.

1217
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Arizona and I'm probably gonna take

1218
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: the over as well. But I think that this is

1219
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 3: a guaranteed w for Arizona, and I think that, yeah,

1220
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 3: you just got to watch out for maybe some backdoor

1221
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 3: recruiting is all.

1222
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 2: Hey, cause you know everybody's using them opportunities, all right.

1223
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: Utah at Washington, Washington's favor by nine and a half

1224
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: over under fifty two and a half. Oregon ran the

1225
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: ball well on Utah, which is what helped them secure

1226
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 2: the wind. But Utah is going to I think that

1227
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: this game could be close. I pray Utah does not

1228
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: mess things up, praying what actually this would not be

1229
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: as bad for Oregon because because of what they did

1230
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: to Utah. You see what I'm saying.

1231
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: In your mind, But those people that vote don't have

1232
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 3: your mind, and that's why I think it actually would

1233
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 3: be bad. You need a signature end of season victory.

1234
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: So I think Washington wins, but nine and a half, No,

1235
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 3: I think Utah keeps it close. And yeah, transitive property

1236
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: stuff is galaxy brain thinking. But the way that I

1237
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 3: look at it is Arizona State did not allow Washington

1238
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 3: to score a touchdown at home. Utah beat Arizona State

1239
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 3: by fifty two. Utah will keep this game close.

1240
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: I believe, So as well, give me Utah and give

1241
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: me we've seen that I'm taking the under in this

1242
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 2: game too. Wow, Okay, but actually no, no, I'm gonna

1243
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: take the over because I think Utah is gonna be

1244
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 2: able to score, So give me the over. All, right,

1245
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: Washington State cal Cal is favored by a point in

1246
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: this game. This is the difference between Washington State getting

1247
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: a chance to go to a bowl game and not

1248
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 2: because they're not gonna beat Washington and Cal still technically

1249
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: has bowl hopes alive. So yeah, I get over under

1250
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: fifty eight and a half. I'm going to take the

1251
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: over because Cal's gonna be able to score, and then

1252
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: Washington State's gonna be able to score because Cal's defensive

1253
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: Swiss cheese, and if Washington State can't score against them,

1254
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: they have bigger problems on their hands. So give me

1255
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: the over, and I'm going to take I'm gonna take

1256
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 2: Cal in this game. Washington State's really.

1257
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 3: I like Cal. Yeah, I'm with you on that. As

1258
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: far as the total fifty eight and a half, I

1259
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: think a lot of that's gonna have to come from Cal.

1260
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: I think Washington State's the one that's having trouble scoring

1261
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 3: right now after their offense looks so good. Maybe it

1262
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 3: was really good, but it's easy to figure out over time.

1263
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: But just to be safe, I'll take the over. But

1264
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 3: I like Cal straight up, all right.

1265
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: Stanford Oregon State Oregon State minus twenty one. This line

1266
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: feels outrageous. This line feels super outrageous to me, give

1267
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: me Stanford every single time in this Orgon State's gonna

1268
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 2: win the football game, but they couldn't do very much

1269
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 2: versus Colorado and Stanford. They're gonna run the ball, run

1270
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: the ball, run the ball. But Oregon States used to

1271
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 2: seeing that in practice, so they might be able to

1272
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: stop it. So this twenty one kind of feels doable.

1273
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: But I'm going with an over under fifty four and

1274
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: a half. I'm going to take said Stanford Cardinal and

1275
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: it's it's a two thirty game. It's not gonna be

1276
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: one of them night fall games. It's gonna help them out.

1277
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 2: And I'm going to take the as twenty seven. I'm

1278
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: gonna take the under in this game.

1279
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Me too. I think it's maybe a

1280
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: twenty eight to seventeen Oregon State win. I do think

1281
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: that Stanford didn't Ashton Daniels didn't display this against Washington State,

1282
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 3: but I do think Ashon Daniels has the ability to

1283
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: move the ball through the air. Oregon State struggles with that,

1284
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: but ultimately they're gonna they're gonna win this game.

1285
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

1286
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: All right. Uh.

1287
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: The last thing that we have up before we get

1288
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: out of here is is what's up oh with our

1289
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: player picks?

1290
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 3: Okay, So you picked Michael Pennix, the easy w there.

1291
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: Ye he probably had the play of the College Football weekend.

1292
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, fantastic. Uh. I had Travis Hunter. He

1293
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: looked really good on offense. Yeah, he looks so good

1294
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 3: on offense that makes me wonder. But I know he's

1295
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 3: a corner, but I man, he could play. So you're

1296
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: up nine to six, I believe.

1297
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

1298
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 3: And that brings us to this week's picks.

1299
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: All right, I'll let you pick first, since you since

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: you lost.

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01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going with Jonah Coleman, University of Arizona running back.

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: Oh against Colorado. Damn, that's it, damn.

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 3: And he's just he's one of the most aggressive runners

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: in all of college football right now. I just really

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01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 3: really think he's having a special season.

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: All Right, I am going to I almost said Noah

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: witting To, but no, I'm going with Jordan James from

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01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 2: Oregon running back from Oregon RB two. Huh yep, I'm

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01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: going with RB two, Buddy. And no, that doesn't mean

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: I know anything. Bucky Irving from everything that I've heard,

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 2: is playing in the game. But I can't pick Bucky

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: Irving because I picked Bucky Irving earlier this year.

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01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: So if Dylan Johnson got the one ninety nine pre contact,

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01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, Bucky Irving is going to be. It wouldn't

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01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 3: matter if Bucky Irving was in a wheelchair. He's gonna

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01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: get me some of those holes.

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01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying Jordan James is gonna get some carries.

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01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: So I'm excited about it. All right.

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: I know it doesn't bother you that USC sucks, but

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm genuinely disappointed that doesn't.

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01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: It doesn't do anything for me. I'm jappy watching in one,

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: which I was so confused about. I didn't even know

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01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 2: who to cheer for during the game. All right, all right,

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01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: this is the PAC twelve apostles. You guys. Make sure

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01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 2: that you guys subscribe, share, tell a friend about it.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, Catch you guys later.