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Speaker 1: This episode of the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast is brought

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Speaker 1: it's Tubsy. Thanks for having me over Sunday night. The

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Speaker 1: tennis is over. I just poured myself a ranch water

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Speaker 1: that a little La Loo tequila, little Topo Chico, little lamb.

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Speaker 2: Very nice, not bad.

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Speaker 3: What was mine?

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Speaker 2: I'm making it?

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Speaker 3: Oh, thanks, appreciate it because it's been a wild nineteen

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Speaker 3: days for me. This is so long, not even like

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Speaker 3: not even like two weeks, you know back in the

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Speaker 3: day when we're like wolf, that's a that's a that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a good two weeks of work. No, no,

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Speaker 3: nineteen days because of the first five days of qualies.

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Speaker 3: Which it's funny because a lot of people have texted

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Speaker 3: me and they're like, man, do you need a break?

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Speaker 3: Like you gotta have you gotta be sleeping for days.

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Speaker 1: Go.

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Speaker 3: Actually the second week was kind of easy for me.

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Speaker 3: It's the first week that did me in totally. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: on the Sunday of the first week, I was exhausted

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Speaker 3: to the point that I didn't even see a third

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Speaker 3: set of one of the best women's matches with Coco

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Speaker 3: at like nine thirty in the morning because I could

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Speaker 3: not keep my eyes open. And that was literally because

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Speaker 3: of the first week, with the qualities and with the

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Speaker 3: it was at the Open. It was just nuts that

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Speaker 3: first week, and maybe I wasn't in sort of work

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Speaker 3: mode yet. Second week was obviously pretty tough, but the

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Speaker 3: third week was just like piece of cake, no problem.

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Speaker 3: I actually feel fine.

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Speaker 1: This is it's weird. On one hand, I'm very over tennis.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, I've got enough tennis for my life.

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Speaker 3: It's me from you.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, I'm so happy because so many

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Speaker 1: people cared about this tournament, so many people watch this tournament.

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Speaker 1: So many people famously came to this tournament, you know,

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Speaker 1: from daehard fans, to a lot of new fans, to

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Speaker 1: a lot of influencers, which we can sort.

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Speaker 2: Of also talk about.

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Speaker 1: But I have to say, like, this is our super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: this is our biggest evend of the year. It's not

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Speaker 1: my favorite tournament of the year. It's probably not yours.

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Speaker 2: Either, but it goes as the French we know, I

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Speaker 2: mean yours is Wimbledon. I get it, But.

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Speaker 3: Australia, no, Listen. It's funny when I if I have

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Speaker 3: to really think about it, it's like, what's your favorite

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Speaker 3: Grand Slam? I do say Wimbledon most of the time,

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Speaker 3: only because I just it's just I don't know, there's

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Speaker 3: something serene and surreal and amazing about Wimbledon. Every time

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Speaker 3: I walk through the gates. It's like, I think, it's

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Speaker 3: a different feeling when it's what's your favorite place to

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Speaker 3: go to as opposed to what's your favorite thing to work?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, So there's, without a doubt my favorite tournament to work,

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Speaker 3: even though I'm exhausted, is the US Open. Like the

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Speaker 3: energy from the crowd, the energy from you know, the

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Speaker 3: work that we do at ESPN. We're covering at World

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Speaker 3: of Wall Wimbledon. We're finished at eleven o'clock, right, I

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Speaker 3: US Open until midnight, one two am, right, So it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like it's a little bit it's a different beast.

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Speaker 3: It's like a beast. The US Open and just the crowd.

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Speaker 3: We're always around the people, you know, Wimbledon was sort

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Speaker 3: we're not really with the people. Were sort of in

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Speaker 3: don't call it so the US Open. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: or I love.

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Speaker 2: The podcast, like we hate your name.

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Speaker 3: Or you suck or what. But it's like we're around

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Speaker 2: The accessibility is right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like, I don't know, it just feels

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like you were a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an adrenaline junkie knowing you now for a decade

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Speaker 1: and this is definitely the time and place if that's

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Speaker 1: your thing, which is just like I feel for me.

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Speaker 1: It's like we launched an issue. We have ten days

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Speaker 1: of parties at the Seaport. We had a bag with

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Speaker 1: missed the Seaport man the tournament from a perspective of

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Speaker 1: play on the Seaport, which was amazing, having amazing live

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Speaker 1: podcasts like you and Peco, doing like Daniel Collins did

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Speaker 1: with our friends at Tennis Insider. You know, just Babaad

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Speaker 1: had a party. Carlos came, you interviewed him. You can

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Speaker 1: watch that exclusive interview on Tennis Channel.

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Speaker 3: Yes you can, and if you missed it, it is

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Speaker 3: on Tennis.

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Speaker 2: Channel to walk and Talk pre haircut.

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Speaker 3: It's a walk and talk pre haircut and pre victory.

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Speaker 3: And I did see Carlos after the semi final win

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Speaker 3: and I said to him, I looked at him. You

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Speaker 3: know you can't see this, but I'm doing my I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at you thing. And I looked at him and

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Speaker 3: I go, I remember what you said. Yeah, we're going

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Speaker 3: to get a tattoo of the Brooklyn Bridge.

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Speaker 1: If he gets a tattoo of the Brooklyn Bridge because

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Speaker 1: of your walk and talk that we did together with

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Speaker 3: He said, I promise, I remember what you told me,

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Speaker 3: and I said, okay, well just think about that. And

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Speaker 3: so when he won yesterday, and listen, FYI, everybody knows

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Speaker 3: how I feel about Yannick, Like there is no loser

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy for them. I'm grateful for the runner

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Speaker 3: no different. It looked to me that Yannick was a

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Speaker 3: didn't have the he didn't have the thing he had

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Speaker 3: just have to say, Carlos Alcirez, I see you, and

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Speaker 3: if I don't see a Brooklyn Bridge on you, I'm

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Speaker 1: So one thing we should also talk about while we're

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Speaker 1: he had a haircut gone wrong. His brother, his brother

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Speaker 3: Now he is I don't think it was an emergency haircut.

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Speaker 3: I think he just said listen in Spanish, I don't

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Speaker 3: so now just shave this shit off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it seems like that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: And how do you say that in Spanish?

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Speaker 1: I own ah me murremra his wall of style.

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Speaker 2: That Hey, you go ahead, haven't that.

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Speaker 3: But those of you that speak Spanish, you're allowed to

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Speaker 1: Was or how great or how great it was. So

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Speaker 1: should we get into it? The match is let's go

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Speaker 1: uh starting with the men? Yeah, no loser. I thought

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Speaker 1: the Felix Oje ali Asim storyline for me personally, not

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Speaker 1: reclaimed his swag. We haven't seen in years from him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he it was perisally close to taking Jarnick

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Speaker 3: That was something pretty spectacular. Now one step back, you

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Speaker 3: Alex Dimnoir was going to make the semip and frankly

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Speaker 3: He was up a set in a break, Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: So we just put that out there. Alex, you let

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Speaker 3: And people say, well, what do you mean, But it's true.

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Speaker 3: the subconscious mind's like, can you, Felix, can you really

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Speaker 2: I do, and I'm his ass to reinforce it today.

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Speaker 3: And he's so nice that he's actually honest about being like, well,

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Speaker 3: if there was ever a time to bet the house,

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Speaker 3: it would have been on that one.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the things that I was

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Speaker 1: so pleased about in watching Felix beat Zverev, in beating

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a ferocious outpouring of emotion. It was yes,

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Speaker 1: I expect to be here, I expect to be performing

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Speaker 1: this way. I expect to be taking the initiative in

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us who've watched him for

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Speaker 1: like that outsized record of being really comfortable in that space.

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Speaker 1: To me, it was exciting because it's sort of indicated

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Speaker 1: that that confidence has now seeped into another surface, frankly

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Speaker 1: one that's a lot more you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, but every major in a court now

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Speaker 3: It was like, because that was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: woosy serve, that's right, and then gully he just steps

437
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Speaker 3: up on match point and goes, now, fuck, this just

438
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Speaker 3: goes for the serve that was working for him all night,

439
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Speaker 3: which was that big wide serve to Yannick's backhand, And yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was it was kind of like I do I

441
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Speaker 3: this part of me thinks that he was thinking about

442
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Speaker 3: the French and he probably thought, I don't want to

443
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Speaker 3: get like Yanick did and get tired. I got to

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Speaker 3: go for it, and he did.

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Speaker 1: I think the smile indicated to me, whether he was

446
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Speaker 1: thinking about it or not, that he was enjoying the

447
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Speaker 1: moment and he was playing his tennis, and that really,

448
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Speaker 1: to me, was the story of the match. Maybe there

449
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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a of a concern with

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Speaker 1: the abdomen. To me, it wasn't a classic match in

451
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Speaker 1: the sense that they both played incredible. It was a

452
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Speaker 1: little bit, uh, it was a little bit up and down.

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Speaker 1: I think in that second set Carlos.

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Speaker 3: Was it was all over the place.

455
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Speaker 2: It was all over the place.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that I thought was the best takeaway

457
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Speaker 1: from the match and the thing that I am actually

458
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Speaker 1: the most excited about, not being a massive fan of

459
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Speaker 1: Yennick Sinner's game style, that game style is a little

460
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 1: less ain't subtractive, you know, And I think that that

461
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Speaker 1: ai kind of a spot kind of commentary comes in

462
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Speaker 1: because it's a it's very efficient, it's very beautiful. I

463
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Speaker 1: have no nothing bad about to say about the guy.

464
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Speaker 1: But you know, Carlos's appeal is so obvious. It's so fun,

465
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Speaker 1: it's so creative, it's so inventive. That Spanish it's Spanish, right,

466
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Speaker 1: it's emotional.

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Speaker 3: And you could say, well, he's Italian. Well, he's he's

468
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Speaker 3: very different.

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Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's definitely a teutonic kind of flavor. But

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Speaker 1: I think what I was so excited about is hearing

471
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Speaker 1: him talk in the press conference after the match, Yannick

472
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Speaker 1: Sinner said, one of the things that I need to

473
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Speaker 1: work on is my predictability. I was very predictable. I

474
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Speaker 1: played patterns. Carlos didn't. He was like, I didn't do

475
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Speaker 1: the serv and valley, I didn't go to the drop shot.

476
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Speaker 1: I didn't give variety. And I think that's something that

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see from him because one of them.

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's won multiple Grand.

479
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Speaker 3: Slams, and he can serve and volley.

480
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Speaker 2: He can and he's won.

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Speaker 1: Multiple Grand Slams not throwing the entire toolbox at his

482
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Speaker 1: opponents because he hasn't had to, because he's so strong

483
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Speaker 1: and controlled and measured and thoughtful from you know, from

484
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Speaker 1: the ground and from his serve. So for me, one

485
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Speaker 1: thing that I think we get excited about these great

486
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Speaker 1: rallies and these great rivalries is not only that these

487
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Speaker 1: players push each other, but they add they force each

488
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Speaker 1: other to add dimensionality to their games. And I would

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Speaker 1: love to see you ONIX cent Or Serve and Volley Moore.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see him, you know, take chances.

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Speaker 1: And I think that is an exciting prediction of Yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: what might be in the next chapter here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, we've seen it through the years

494
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Speaker 3: with Roger, Raff and Novak, is that they all realized

495
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Speaker 3: that they needed to add things to their game to

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Speaker 3: beat each other. And you know, Mary, Joe Fernandez and

497
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Speaker 3: all of us at the ESPN have also talked about

498
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Speaker 3: the fact that these two are setting the bar for

499
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Speaker 3: each other, that's only each other, like, yeah, they are

500
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Speaker 3: so much better than everybody else. And so you know,

501
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Speaker 3: just like Rafa used to practice to beat Novak, just

502
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Speaker 3: like he used to practice to beat Roger, And just

503
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Speaker 3: like Roger had to improve his backhand because Rafa was

504
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Speaker 3: taking advantage of it with the lefty fourhand, YadA YadA.

505
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Speaker 3: It's like these two are, now, how do I beat him?

506
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Speaker 3: It's not how do I beat everybody else? How do

507
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Speaker 3: I beat him? Because if I beat him, I'm beating

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Speaker 3: everybody else easily.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean I think about Andy Murray all

510
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Speaker 1: the time, which is like imagine being the third best player,

511
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Speaker 1: or in some cases the fourth best player in the world,

512
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Speaker 1: beating everybody, going into every match with an advantage in

513
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Speaker 1: terms of your work ethic and your game, and knowing

514
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Speaker 1: that there's still three guys out there that have no

515
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Speaker 1: problem with your game and you have to treat to

516
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Speaker 1: give them.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's why we give Andy did a lot of

518
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Speaker 3: credit because he beat most of the time, he beat

519
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Speaker 3: the best in the finals. He beat Novak a couple

520
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Speaker 3: of times in major finals. He beat Roger be He

521
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Speaker 3: beat Roger in the Olympic gold medal match. Like, you know,

522
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Speaker 3: that's the thing about Andy that you know, people like,

523
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Speaker 3: what are you keep talking about? It's not the Big four,

524
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Speaker 3: it's a Big three. Yeah, okay, the Big three won

525
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Speaker 3: all of these titles. But look who they beat in

526
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Speaker 3: the final like eight or nine of those times, and

527
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Speaker 3: it was Andy Murray. But anyway, listen, it was it was.

528
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Speaker 3: There was great points, there was great parts of the match.

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Speaker 3: The one part of the which I know we want

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Speaker 3: to talk about, you particularly want to talk about, is

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Speaker 3: the reason and the fact that the match started like

532
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Speaker 3: a fucking hour late because of some particular human being

533
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Speaker 3: that decided to piss everybody off and come to the tennis.

534
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Speaker 2: So I'm going to put this.

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Speaker 1: In the words of a person on Twitter called Owen

536
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Speaker 1: Costa Kanu is this person's handle saying pushing back the

537
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Speaker 1: sort of an event that everybody wants to watch in

538
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Speaker 1: order to accommodate somebody that nobody wants.

539
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Speaker 2: To be there sort of sums it up.

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Speaker 3: That's so perfect.

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Speaker 1: Everybody tunes in two pm expecting a final Yeah, about

542
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Speaker 1: an hour before we get to.

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Speaker 3: Imagine what it was like for tv TV. I mean,

544
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Speaker 3: n hap dancing. ESPN were literally filling for like forty minutes.

545
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Speaker 2: Dude, So friends of mine.

546
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Speaker 3: Kudos to Chris mckendrey, Yeah, Christmas Hendry and everyone. I mean,

547
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Speaker 3: let me tell you something.

548
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Speaker 2: They went to the tea.

549
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Speaker 3: People at home don't understand how hard it is to

550
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Speaker 3: fill for forty minutes when you have no intention of

551
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Speaker 3: doing that. So you got to pull every video, you

552
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Speaker 3: got to pull every interview, you got to pull every

553
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Speaker 3: you know. Thank god, ESPN does these great vignettes of

554
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Speaker 3: like stories and shit. They had to throw all of

555
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Speaker 3: it against.

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Speaker 1: The wall unexpectedly with no word prep. Whilch is like,

557
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Speaker 1: and I thought they did an admirable job, but you

558
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Speaker 1: could tell it was an unexpected snafu. Also friends of mine,

559
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Speaker 1: people who you know, maybe as an anniversary present. I

560
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Speaker 1: know two of my friends, uh one had bought tickets

561
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Speaker 1: to the final for her husband. They were like, cool,

562
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Speaker 1: we spent how much?

563
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Speaker 2: Ungodly?

564
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Speaker 1: Some tell me I think their tickets were ten k

565
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Speaker 1: each and can you imagine? And she was like, we've

566
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Speaker 1: been here for two hours. The line is insane. We're

567
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Speaker 1: going to miss a chunk of the match because of this.

568
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people miss the again.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a little bit of a bougie problem to

570
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Speaker 1: spend ten k on a ticket, but still the idea

571
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Speaker 1: that you are accommodating somebody who again nobody wants to

572
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Speaker 1: be there. The crowd reaction was not mixed. No one

573
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Speaker 1: was happy to see this person. There were thunderous booze

574
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Speaker 1: every time that's been reported from people within the stadium,

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Speaker 1: other journalists, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: To me again, I chose not to go to the tennis.

577
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Speaker 3: I didn't have to work that day because I didn't

578
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Speaker 3: have to. But you know, I'm under normal circumstances. I

579
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Speaker 3: may have gone out just to watch the match, because

580
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Speaker 3: obviously I have the ability to go go and watch

581
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Speaker 3: any match from my position at ESPN, but I was like,

582
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Speaker 3: hell no. And another thing is we all had to

583
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Speaker 3: be there incredibly early just because of all the security,

584
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Speaker 3: So we were told to be there like before nine

585
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Speaker 3: point thirty a m. I was like, I'm not doing that.

586
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Speaker 2: Oh that's it. I'm going to sit on my name

587
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Speaker 2: and watch these tennis totally and for me, look, Rolex

588
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Speaker 2: invaded him.

589
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Speaker 1: We don't known the circumstances under which tariffs presumably business interests,

590
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Speaker 1: because now we just live in an age of grift

591
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Speaker 1: where everyone is just trying to.

592
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna lie.

593
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Speaker 3: I have a couple of Rolexes gifted to me, so

594
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Speaker 3: I don't like to pretend I'm some bougie bitch. Okay,

595
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Speaker 3: I won one and now that almost as a present,

596
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Speaker 3: and I feel sort of a little upset about it

597
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: because I love my Rolexes.

598
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Speaker 2: The UH.

599
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Speaker 1: The fact that this tournament started by celebrating ALTHEA Gibson

600
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Speaker 1: and ended with UH a fascist is not great.

601
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: It's not a great look.

602
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Speaker 1: I get that the USCA had Mccanklescaco tits. I get

603
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Speaker 1: that the USA had no control over who gets invited,

604
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Speaker 1: especially if it's this suite that said sending out an

605
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Speaker 1: email instructing people not to cover the booze is bush league.

606
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Speaker 1: Not only is its censorship, but also like I can

607
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Speaker 1: get why you wouldn't want this to be the main

608
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Speaker 1: focus of the tournament. They barely barely glancingly covered this guy.

609
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Speaker 1: You're we're not going to say his name, but it

610
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: can't be a conversation. The people running media at the

611
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: USTA are are in over their heads. That's kind of where.

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Speaker 3: I'm I mean, listen, and I don't blame any of them. Honestly,

613
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: I don't blame the media side of it at all.

614
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that because I work for ESPN. You know,

615
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: they're put between a rock and a hard place. I

616
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: don't know how difficult the answer or the question would

617
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Speaker 3: have been posed of do we tell the President of

618
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Speaker 3: the United States he cannot come? I mean, how do

619
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Speaker 3: you do that, Caitlin, Like I'm asking you as a journalist, like,

620
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Speaker 3: I don't think you can. I think they're put in

621
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Speaker 3: between a rock and a hard place. And I would

622
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Speaker 3: suspect I don't know this. I did not talk to Stacy,

623
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Speaker 3: I did not talk to any of the USTA people

624
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Speaker 3: about this, So I'm not telling you anything out of

625
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: school or behind the scenes. I would imagine it was

626
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: a fucking nightmare for them. And I'm sure when they

627
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: got this request they were like, fuck no. Now in

628
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: a lot of us, listen, is it a great thing

629
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Speaker 3: when the president decides to come. It hadn't happened since Hilary,

630
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: since Hillary Clinton. That that was a Freudian slip. It

631
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: hasn't happened since Bill Clinton. And I don't remember what

632
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: that was like. I what year was that.

633
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean it would have been the nineties.

634
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: I mean I was obviously playing, but maybe I wasn't

635
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 3: there anymore. I don't know, But I don't remember what

636
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: that was like to get into the stadium. But I

637
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: just you know, the amount of resources to put all

638
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: that together, and then the poor people standing in lines

639
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: for like two hours plus there were still people getting

640
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: trying to get into the stadium. At three fifty is

641
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: when it all cleared. I heard three fifty, So they

642
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: missed an hour tennis. I mean I would have been

643
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: I would have been so pissed.

644
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks a lot.

645
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: Thanksully a lot, mctarco, m ankles, mctarco, tits and reason.

646
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: I say that it's because of my friends and again,

647
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: I've had it, podcasts came.

648
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Speaker 1: I don't blame the tournament, no. I think the tournament's

649
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: comms department is, for a lot of reasons, in over

650
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: their heads. They don't know what they're doing.

651
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: You just think that you and I talked about this earlier,

652
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: the email that went out that got leaked. You're saying

653
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Speaker 3: that it should have been probably more verbal.

654
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Speaker 1: But I think asking your networks to censor a news

655
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Speaker 1: event is not a great look. I think it's the

656
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: right to do it. I thought ESPN handled it correctly,

657
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: which is acknowledging that this is happening and also not

658
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: making the focus of the day this.

659
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: Other d They showed him twice and during anthem, that's right,

660
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: and they showed him briefly in the third or fourth set.

661
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: Both times he got booed loudly.

662
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Speaker 1: You could hear not only in the stadium from what

663
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: I've heard, but also clearly on TV. And again, I

664
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: just think the comms department, who they credentialed this year,

665
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: who they didn't credential, they wouldn't let Andy Broddock's podcast

666
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: do their own ads because they don't know how ads work.

667
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: They gave fifty extra credentials for influencers, which you know,

668
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: just Yakes, you can't have that office be in Orlando

669
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: and get Bush League talent to run it. It's just

670
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 1: it's a bad look and it's a bad part of

671
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Speaker 1: what should be a world class organization.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that's not I don't know any of that. Behind

673
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: the scenes, you do because you have to do this way,

674
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: get credentialed, and I go work for ESPN and I'm

675
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: a last eight club member, so yeah for me. All right,

676
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: So anyway, let's stalk by the women. Let's talk about

677
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: the women. An incredible tournament. My god, the two.

678
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: Semimen really carried the tennis.

679
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: The two semi finals were the.

680
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Women really carried the tennis.

681
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: They did, And we've been very they have for a

682
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: lot of they have, but we've been honest that the

683
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: men have carried a couple of other tournaments of late,

684
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: the women haven't been so great in the semis and finals.

685
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: But the matches at the women's were incredible. I want

686
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: to go back to Amanda Anasimova and her victory over

687
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: Eagerson Tech. Look, I picked to Eager win the tournament.

688
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: At the start of the tournament, I thought she was

689
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: playing the best coming in playing so well in Cincinnati,

690
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: obviously being incredibly confident after winning Wimbledon, and she's one

691
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: that you was open before, so I thought, listen, she's

692
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: gonna really push. We talked about the possibility of Amanda

693
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: and Eager playing in the quarters, and I was like,

694
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if she could beat her after losing.

695
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: Oh and oh, I think that's just it's damaging most

696
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: in your mind. But my god, Amanda and a Samova

697
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: way to go. Now there's a little suspicion about, you know,

698
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: the foot for Eager. She was struggling a little bit

699
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: with her foot. I haven't heard much since, but having

700
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: said that, wow, oh wow, when this kid leaves Wimbledon

701
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: after not winning a game in the finals, is embarrassed,

702
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: is just overwhelmed. But the way she handled that speech,

703
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: and she got so many new followers and fans because

704
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: of the way she handled that loss. Then on top

705
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: of it, she comes out and plays on file in

706
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: that match with all the pressure on her to get

707
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: to that match. Right, So everyone's yeah, she's one when

708
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, got to the finals and women, I'm playing

709
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: all this now, she's coming to us sop and with

710
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: a ton of pressure. And I did every single one

711
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: of her matches, and trust me, she was fighting herself

712
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: emotionally every single match and then she turns up against Eager.

713
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: And just goes not today, not today, not today.

714
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: I love. That was an incredible display by her to

715
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: win that match against arguably the player that was hottest

716
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: coming into the tournament.

717
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

718
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: Agree, I thought, she first of all, has the game

719
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: to disrupt an eager obvious and to beat anybody, and

720
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: to beat anybody if she's firing on all cylinders. She

721
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: has the game to beat anybody. But would she be

722
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: able to get herself together mentally? And I was one

723
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: of those new fans after the Wimbledon match and hearing

724
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: her talk and hearing how thoughtful she was. You know,

725
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I liked her story and I was excited to see

726
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: her get to the finals of Queen's before that, Like,

727
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting against to men at an Easimova, but

728
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: actually I thought the way she handled it was beautiful

729
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: and really amazing and to me indicated like, oh, there's

730
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: a well of like you know, humanity here, But would

731
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Speaker 1: she be able to put it aside and make it

732
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Speaker 1: count on the tennis court, Like, no way did I

733
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: see this coming. The other thing that I thought was

734
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: amazing is in a very very high pressure moment the

735
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: very next match against the Ameyosaka, who arguably was playing

736
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Speaker 1: probably certainly the hottest coming in from from kind of

737
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Speaker 1: out of well.

738
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Speaker 3: She made for Canada. Yeah, knows how to win the

739
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: US Open. It's arguably her best slam. She has something

740
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: to prove stray and Open maybe, but those dazzled.

741
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: Things were taking all of the heat off of her

742
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: being a bad sport in Canada, which I hate those

743
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: little toys. And now she apparently has like a million

744
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: bajillion dollar deal. Like the less said about that, the better,

745
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: But like, that's a match, and that was a match

746
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: that was arguably the best match of the women's tournament.

747
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: I thought I had the pleasure of being courtside for

748
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: that match with ESPN, and there was part of me

749
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: after the Sablanca Jess Pagoula match, which we will get

750
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: to when we talk about SOUTHCA, but that was like damn.

751
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: You know, you always as a commentator, you're like, oh man,

752
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: it's my match going to be shitty now, because you

753
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: want to be involved in a great match sure, for

754
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: not only the point of just like being involved in it,

755
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: it's watching it. I'm sitting in the court side. I

756
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: want to watch a great match, you know what I mean?

757
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Because I feel like I get paid to watch tennis,

758
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: so I want to watch great tennis. So I'm like, damn,

759
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: I hope this match is good. It starts out, Amanda

760
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: comes on the court. You can tell she's nervous. She

761
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: gets down love too, like immediately, and I'm like, oh

762
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: my god, this is not going to happen again, is it?

763
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: Because there has to be some part of it that

764
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: goes am I going to lose O and O again?

765
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: And the only reason I say that is because her

766
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: game is predicated on hitting winners. And if all of

767
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: a sudden she's a little bit off and the feed

768
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: aren't moving like they weren't at Wimbledon, and she freezes

769
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: a little bit, her ball is flying yea, and if

770
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: it's not going in, it's not going in. She's just

771
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: rolled in.

772
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 2: So that needs a confident game.

773
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: That backhand. She's not all in that thing, and that's

774
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: going to be a winner. It's going to be out.

775
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god. Then she got

776
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: down love forty, and I was like, oh, oh my god, no,

777
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: please God. And also I'm thinking I'm going to sit

778
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: here and have to commentate this match and want her

779
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: so badly to compete, and she's going to get crushed again. No,

780
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: not tonight. She gets down Love forty, comes back, wins

781
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: the service game. It's two to one. Completely different match

782
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: from that moment on now. It was like a battle

783
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: battle battle. And if you were listening to my coverage

784
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: at five six down in the second set, when she

785
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: had opportunity after opportunity to close out the second set

786
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: after breaking a couple of times at five six down

787
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: when she has to serve to state in the match,

788
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: I said on the coverage, I don't know what just happened.

789
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: She won the first point, and I said, she just relaxed.

790
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what just happened. But literally, her whole

791
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: demeanor just changed. She's got this, I'm in the zone.

792
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: Fuck this, not tonight. I'm not going to get pissed anymore.

793
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: Because she was very demonstrative from time to time on

794
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: her service games, and it was like she just said, Amanda,

795
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: stopping a brat, stopping a whiner, and just play, and

796
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: it was like all of a sudden, she wins the game.

797
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: I think to love at five six down, she wins

798
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: the tie break like seven to one or seven to two. Unbelievable.

799
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: Hitting in the ball was like she became Amanda and

800
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: a Samova the great tennis player. Unbelievable. And then she

801
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: never looked back. Even when she had to serve out

802
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: the match, she didn't. She had a couple opportunities to

803
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: close it out at five three on her serve and

804
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: she didn't. And you know, you could her disappointment in

805
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: herself could have shown in that game, but she didn't

806
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: allow it and she closed it out. Unbelievable. It was

807
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: incredible match to watch.

808
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: The level was high.

809
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I thought Naomi Osaka played it lights out. She played well,

810
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: she played really well. No no, no shame in that

811
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: performance at all. And Anisimova, yeah, really like dug in

812
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: and I thought, consolidated what she had, the statement she'd

813
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: made against eager to me being able to compete through

814
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: that was incredible. Now looking ahead to the final, I

815
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: thought she didn't fully show up.

816
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: Why she was nervous.

817
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I get why maybe there was a little PTSD being

818
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: in her second grandslame final the year, which is also

819
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: like in and of itself, incredible.

820
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: A year ago she was playing qualifiers, qualifying, lost in colleies.

821
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: That's nuts lost. This year she makes two Ransom finals.

822
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 3: Doing online classes this time last year.

823
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Respect the hell out of the fact that in a

824
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: year's time, what a difference we are seeing in this person.

825
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: She didn't fully show up for the funnel.

826
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: No, before we get to the final. I do want

827
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: to just backtrack to Sabolenka. I did not pick Sabolenka

828
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: to win this match. In this tournament, she was not

829
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: playing great coming into it was I was watching her

830
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: in practice. She was missing balls by twenty feet. She

831
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: was missing balls in the bottom of the net. I

832
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: spoke about it on air. I was watching her practices.

833
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: She was not happy. There was like and her game

834
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: again is predicated on hitting winners. And if you're not

835
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: hitting winners and you're not confident and they're going out

836
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: by twenty feet, it's hard to like reel it back in.

837
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: That's right. And you know, we saw what happened to

838
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: Coco Golf, which we didn't really even talk about, but

839
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 3: you know, Coco's capitulation with the serv and the fourhand

840
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: over I hope she takes the rest of the year

841
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: off and works on that. But you know, Sablenka did

842
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: not look great and she had not won a big

843
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: match this year, like when you really look at the

844
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: big matches for her Finals of Australia, finals of the

845
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: French Open, and she is the first to say she

846
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: her emotions got the better of her, and yeah, I

847
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: mean just she was not winning the big matches, winning

848
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: a lot of matches and arguably the most consistent player

849
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: on tour, but she was losing big matches. And then

850
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: to lose to Amanda Anisimova at this Wimbledon and the

851
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: semifinals again like not, I mean Amanda played great, but

852
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: not showing up when it really mattered. Had had to

853
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: start taking a dent on her. And that's why I

854
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: didn't pick her to win the tournament. But pick against

855
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: your own peril, because Sabolenka knows how to win at

856
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: the US Open, and she loves There's something about this

857
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: crowd and this court that sort of gets She's kind

858
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: of like Novak. It just fuels her to just want

859
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: to be like to keep my shit together, and she

860
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 3: talked about it, I had to keep my shit together,

861
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: and she did because she could have flown off the

862
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: handle in the semi and the final. I want to

863
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: give props to jess Beagouola to come back and make

864
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: the semis, not get to the final again, but to

865
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 3: make the semis and her effort to excuse me, that's

866
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: just my TV going off, to actually get back to

867
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: the US Open semifinals and play the way she did

868
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: in that semi finals.

869
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Speaker 2: Yes, bloody amazing, she played great.

870
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Speaker 3: I just I hope if Jess ever listens to our podcast,

871
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: I hope jess really starts thinking, just like Amanda, I

872
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: can win these matches, like, don't have the subconscious overtake

873
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 3: the conscious, Like the subconscious has to say I'm good enough.

874
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: Because there were there were shots and points that she

875
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: missed right towards the end that if she makes it's

876
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: a different outcome.

877
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, to me, jessicagoula great tournament, phenomenal year.

878
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: As she twiteted she was the only person to beat

879
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Carlos out My god.

880
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: That Jessica Bogula is the funniest person on Twitter and

881
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: she loses. I love that.

882
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: I would like to see her kind of take a

883
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: page at Yannic Center's book and say, okay, I am

884
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: going to dimensionality to my game. She can hit big

885
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: roundies with everybody, which is amazing because she's not as

886
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: big as most of that.

887
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: But her ball striking is so pure, her hand eye

888
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: is bananas. Yeah, and yeah.

889
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: How well she volleys, We know how well she plays

890
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: doubles get better, but I think we can we can, like,

891
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's tied to the confidence thing, which

892
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: is like, have the confidence in not only being able

893
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: to back up a finals run this year with a

894
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: really strong semi final showing, but also like, where are

895
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: dimensionality components to your game that you can improve on?

896
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: And I think that unpredictability I think maybe would be

897
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: helpful for her.

898
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: I think she's I know that she's probably working on that,

899
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: because you can't not work with Mark Knowles and Mark

900
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: Merkle and her two coaches and not work on that.

901
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: Mark Knowles in particular was like serve and volley and

902
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: chips and slices and create, so I'm sure he's trying

903
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: to get that involved in her game, but that takes

904
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: a little bit of time. Actually, somebody we didn't talk

905
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 3: about is marketev Androsova.

906
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Speaker 1: I think if markettev Androsova, who played incredibly well the

907
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: matches past, will remember that marketev Androssova has a Wimbledon TATA.

908
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: She looked as good this year at the US Open

909
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: as she did in that Wimbledon tatl run to me

910
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: her dismantling of Eleanor Rakina, who was playing very.

911
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: Good, Yeah, very good. She was the hottest player in

912
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 3: the tournament, serving unbelievable.

913
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Speaker 1: And marketev Androsova the serv and one just easy handling

914
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: of the piece, an amazing court sense. Played an entire

915
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: tournament up until that practice court injury causes her to

916
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: with drug and sabileca to me, she beats Sabaleka.

917
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Speaker 3: I think she must have had that injury before she

918
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Speaker 3: went on the practice court, because when she did go down,

919
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: her coach walked over to her and put his arm

920
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: on her back. Immediately they knew. So she's obviously done

921
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: something in the match against the Rebakina and then tried

922
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: to give it a day and then come back and

923
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: hit some balls and see how it felt and just couldn't.

924
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: It was obviously it was the knee. I think it

925
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: was her right knee from the looks of the bandage.

926
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Speaker 3: On her leg after. But man, it's just like Carolina Mukhova,

927
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: who also was hampered in her loss. These two, you

928
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: can not catch a break with the injury. Liked, damn it,

929
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: Come on tennis, God's give these two a break. Vondrossova

930
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: and Mokhova, these two Czech amazing women who have such

931
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 3: beautiful variety in their game. It's like they can't catch

932
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: a break physically. I don't know if it's I don't

933
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Speaker 3: know if it's mental and it's affecting their body. And

934
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Speaker 3: it's just incredible to me because Vondrossova's win over Rabakkin

935
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: it was such good tennis. It was played so late

936
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Speaker 3: because it was after another amazing match prior, and so

937
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: it was quite late. And then you know, for her

938
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: not to step on the court was brutal, and I

939
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: actually thought that was maybe going to hurt Sabalanca in

940
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: a way, but it didn't because getting through that match

941
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 3: against Jessica. But you know, I just want to throw

942
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: out just a big marquetta. You know, let's go get back.

943
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: You're certainly because she can't catch a break. Even once

944
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: she won Wimbledon, she had to withdraw like a couple

945
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: months later and didn't play forever, and then came back

946
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: after that injury and hurt herself in Australia before the

947
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: US train Open, and after playing well and getting to

948
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: like the semis of Adelaide and then now this.

949
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: It's just like but if she doesn't pull out, I

950
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: don't know that Seblink was a tournament. I mean that,

951
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: I think the entirety of the tournament changed when MURKIDEFN

952
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Drisberg had to pull out of that quarter.

953
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, she would have certainly gone into it feeling very,

954
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: very confident because Rebakian, as you said, was arguably the

955
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: best player.

956
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Going and I think Sebolenka's I think Sebolenka had her

957
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: opportunity presented to her. I think Jess Pagoula is a

958
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: very formidable opponent, but not the toughest opponent you can

959
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: face in a semi. And I think in the in

960
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: the final, her experience shot shot one through. I mean,

961
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: she had with great match. I'll credit to her. Obviously,

962
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Anisimova did not bring as much fate to hers as

963
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I think I think she would have. She listen again,

964
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: credit to her. I want to see her in more finals,

965
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: and I think these get better. Like she said, the

966
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: trending is in going the red direction.

967
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Speaker 3: I didn't like that. She said that she felt like

968
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: she didn't give herself, like she didn't fight enough, and

969
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: I disagree with that. I think, look, I think she

970
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 3: handled it the best way she could at the time,

971
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: and she's only going to learn from Wimbledon final and

972
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: US Open final. And if you look back on that

973
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: match Caitlin in the final, the first game was massive, Okay,

974
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: Anisimova had a bunch of break points. I think she

975
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: even had love foot thirty in that game. She had

976
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: a bunch of breakpoints in that game. If she breaks

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00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: and goes up one love, I think we have a

978
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: completely different Amanda. I think we have a completely different

979
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: possible outcome. Amanda has a winning record over Sabalanca. She

980
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: beat her previously at Wimbledon, so we know that she

981
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: can be I know it's different in a semi to

982
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: a final, but yeah, you might be right. I think

983
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: her breaking serve there is so big. Instead, she us

984
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: is the game and then goes down and loses her

985
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: own service game and now it's love too. And you

986
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: don't tell me that Wembledon is not entering your mind.

987
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: There at Love two down sure, like in front of

988
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: twenty thousand people that you know have paid maybe ten

989
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: thousand dollars or a ticket to be there for you.

990
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: And thankfully it went to one, and then she actually

991
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: got up three too, and she had her opportunities. But

992
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: I hope that Amanda walks away from this and goes okay,

993
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: lessons learned. Yeah, I'm not gonna I don't think she

994
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: froze at the US Open. She froze at Wemblen for sure.

995
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: A question. She could literally pick up her feet. She

996
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: was that nervous US Open. She had moments. I think

997
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: she wins the second set again, I think we also

998
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: might have a different outcome. Agree with albergoon nuts and

999
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 3: she started to really see it, and maybe she would

1000
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: have had that same feeling she had against Naomi of

1001
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: fuck this, I'm not going to let it beat me today.

1002
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: So maybe if it goes three, it's a different story.

1003
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: But credit to Sablenca because she knew I cannot lose

1004
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: my shit like I did at the French like I

1005
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: did at Wimbledon, and I have to keep my shit together.

1006
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: And she did and she did, and I think she

1007
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: really needed this one she was slamless and had lost.

1008
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: As you said, all of the big matches. Are we

1009
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: done talking about the women?

1010
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 2: I just want a very brief reatown shout out.

1011
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: We have a cover story on the incredible anniversary twenty

1012
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: years of the Wheelchair Tennis division. We interviewed pretty much

1013
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: all of the who's who, and our cover boy is

1014
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Tokito Ota, who at age nineteen, he is nineteen years old,

1015
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: has a golden career slam. He now won yesterday in

1016
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: a epic epic finals against his doubles partner, down five

1017
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: match points, third set, tiebreak.

1018
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: If you are not.

1019
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: Watching wheelchair tennis, I'm telling you it is unbelievable. Most

1020
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: of you would lose to these wheelchair athletes, no doubt

1021
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: I would probably lose to most of them. It's certainly

1022
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: the men's singles finals, the squad, the juniors. The USTA

1023
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: has done a phenomenal job actually leading on this and

1024
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: for those of us who are not paying ten dousand

1025
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: dollars a ticket for other ash but coming to leader

1026
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: stage as tournaments. You can see juniors, you can see legends,

1027
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: you can see wheelchairs. Go and cheer and watch tennis

1028
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: in all of its forums it's an unbelievably important part

1029
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: of the game.

1030
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: Everyone can play tennis, and it's unbelievable and the joy

1031
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: that these people get watching and playing the sport of

1032
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: tennis is awesome. And it's more on.

1033
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: The edge of my seat watching the two Key Toyoda

1034
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Fernandez final than I was watching either of the singles finals,

1035
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: which is not to say that they aren't.

1036
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: Were all you did you call me? I was like,

1037
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: this exciting thing, so my heart was raising. It was

1038
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: kind of like the Wheelchaan Tannis men's doubles from Wimbledon

1039
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: a bunch of years ago, where it came down to

1040
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: like it was like sixteen fourteen in the match Top

1041
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: Rex something. It was just unbelievable. So yeah, so yeah, listen,

1042
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: we love tennis obviously, and it doesn't matter who plays it.

1043
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: When you're hitting the ball over the net and in

1044
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: the court, it's exciting. Shout out to all the juniors

1045
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: as well that that won their events. I saw some

1046
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: great tennis with those. My friend Wells Newman who got

1047
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: to the third round of Junior's keep an eye out

1048
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: for her on an American standpoint with the girls, and yeah,

1049
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a lot of fun just overall

1050
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: being at the US Open. Shout out to all the competitors.

1051
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: Three weeks. The mixed doubles was a success. I hope

1052
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: they tweak it a little bit. I hope that they

1053
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: give the opportunity for a couple of other Grand Slam winners.

1054
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: This is my thought. The winners of the Australian Open,

1055
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: Wimbledon and the French Open get an automatic wildcard into

1056
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: the US Open, unless clearly they're the defending champions like

1057
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 3: Bavasori and Irani, who are going to get another wildcard,

1058
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: probably into the mixed doubles next year, as they should should.

1059
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: But my thought process is if you've won a mixed

1060
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: title that year, you get automatically entered into the US Open.

1061
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: A million dollars to the winner, a million dollars to

1062
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: the doubles champions as well. God damn it, don't think

1063
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 3: Lisa Raima wasn't texting me going back in our day.

1064
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: But anyway, huge success.

1065
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable.

1066
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Speaker 1: Well, one housekeeping item, A lot of you guys have

1067
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Speaker 1: noticed that we did a special issue with Melissa Cobe,

1068
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Speaker 1: who's an artist who did an amazing, amazing Lino type

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Speaker 1: York City location, and don't get on me as to why.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes this is the only way we can bring you

1072
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: nice things is by creating exclusive deals. And so if

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Speaker 1: you want it, it is for sale at the Starbucks

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Speaker 1: Reserve Road Street in the Meatpacking District. To send somebody

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Speaker 1: and really renee like, what a great three weeks again,

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, you're exhausted. I'm gonna enjoy this ranch water.

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00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Thank you Lala Tequila for hooking it up. And I

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Speaker 1: guess I got one on my own now, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, we'll guess. We'll just see you in Asia.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you over the next couple of weeks and

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Speaker 3: we'll bring you more tennis updates and everything. But it

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00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 3: was a joy. It was a joy to bring it

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Speaker 3: all

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Speaker 1: To you, and thanks and listening for us today, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Bye b