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Speaker 2: She has so many accomplishments. You know, she has a

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Speaker 2: you say it because it is the only bilingual Spanish

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Speaker 2: and Nelly is the definition of self made and she

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Speaker 2: What's happening. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: were because I didn't realize this at the time, but

437
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Speaker 1: they owned a lot of different companies, both in TV.

438
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Speaker 1: Jerry Pernia was a boxing promoter. He owned a whole

439
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Speaker 1: boxing This was like a little investment, like if you're

440
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: buying a house to you know, compared to all the

441
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: money they were, this was like a little house. And

442
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: what I didn't realize, and you're gonna you're gonna freak

443
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Speaker 1: out when I tell you, when I answer your question,

444
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Speaker 1: I think they expected this little house that they bought

445
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Speaker 1: that was a little rinky dinky station to be their

446
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Speaker 1: tax ride off. I think that when I started making money,

447
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: they were like in shock, they thought. And I think

448
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: that again, in my naivete of not understanding business, I

449
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: didn't realize that very wealthy people, just like if you're

450
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Speaker 1: let's just use an example.

451
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Speaker 3: If you're.

452
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know ABC, right, and you're you

453
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: don't know why ABC buys twenty channels. What you find

454
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: out when you become an insider is that at the

455
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: end of the year, if they make too much money,

456
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: they buy businesses that are in bad shape so they

457
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Speaker 1: don't pay taxes, and then they have a long time

458
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Speaker 1: to make those things turn around. I think I didn't

459
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Speaker 1: understand the macro of how conglomerates work, and people that

460
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: own many assets buy sometimes things that lose money for them,

461
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Speaker 1: and they their tax rider. And the reason I know

462
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Speaker 1: this to be true is because I'm running this little

463
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Speaker 1: rinky dinky thing, and I'm figuring they're like, here, figure

464
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Speaker 1: it out, you know, they weren't paying that much attention

465
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Speaker 1: to me, and I on oh PM, learned how to

466
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Speaker 1: run a TV station. I made a lot of mistakes

467
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Speaker 1: that they didn't see, and but I was lucky because

468
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: they were right. The Latino thing was about to hit,

469
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Speaker 1: and the one area where it was hitting is a

470
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Speaker 1: radio city.

471
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Speaker 3: Music hall was bringing in menudo.

472
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Speaker 1: Tino artists that nobody knew about, and it was the

473
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Speaker 1: era glorious Stephank wasn't nobody then. People were putting them

474
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Speaker 1: in Radio City and they'd sell out. And those people

475
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: started coming to me. The radio the record companies were

476
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Speaker 1: coming to me and going, can we cut a deal

477
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Speaker 1: with you with these acts that nobody knows yet?

478
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Speaker 3: Can you put on.

479
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Speaker 1: A lot of commercials for them? And and I go, yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: well let's split the box.

481
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Speaker 2: Office mm hm.

482
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Speaker 3: And nobody knew that that was going to be big.

483
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Speaker 1: And when I the first year I was in business,

484
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Speaker 1: I made so much money.

485
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Speaker 3: That Norman Lear and Joy Prince go, oh my god,

486
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Speaker 3: here's supposed to be all tax right off. We got

487
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Speaker 3: go buy.

488
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Speaker 1: A building, Go get you know, like I had to

489
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Speaker 1: learn to go buy a building to spend the money,

490
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Speaker 1: Go buy e whipment, Go you.

491
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Speaker 2: Know, right, So so I want to I want to

492
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Speaker 2: break down what you said, and this is absolutely amazing

493
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 2: because there's two aspects to it. Right. So what you

494
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: said that people need to understand is that you know,

495
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: as you're growing businesses, you need more writers and IRIS

496
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: gives you up to three years to write off things.

497
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Speaker 2: So what you try to find is undervalued assets that

498
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: you invest in, and in the worst scenario that the

499
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: asset is still a loss, you get to take a

500
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: loss on where it's funding the business. And that's why

501
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: they said, hey, holy craps, you're not supposed to make money.

502
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: You made money, all right, go buy building one of

503
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Speaker 2: the cases. So that is true, and I do agree

504
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Speaker 2: on something else that there's one aspect of what you're

505
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: saying is like, you know, this is the same as

506
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: on Shark Tank, right, I got you know, three out

507
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: of ten companies will hit and that's great. But when

508
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: they buy a company, please do not confuse what Nelly

509
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: is saying is that they don't buy these underappreciated assets

510
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: with the hopes of clearly losing money. Because if you

511
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: really think of the key of what she said, he

512
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: was like, are you kidding me? The Latin Bark is

513
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: going to be huge. So what it really is is

514
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: that I hope in best efforts that this direction we're going,

515
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: if we're gonna lose money, we're gonna lose money. With

516
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: some potential rock stars.

517
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know that there's a runway, right, and venture

518
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: knows this too. There's a runway where all businesses lose money.

519
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: And at that moment, if that that thing that you

520
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: bought loses money, it helps you if you have other

521
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: businesses to write things off so you don't pay as

522
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: many taxes, right and damon you know you and I

523
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: have been talking a lot about my friend Julio, who's

524
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: a tax goat yep, And you know, the next book

525
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm writing is about taxes with him, because I feel

526
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Speaker 1: that what I learned at a very young age is

527
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: the game of money.

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00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That The reason that this like and where people don't

530
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Speaker 1: know is that the government, you know, in the tax

531
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Speaker 1: laws are meant to.

532
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Speaker 3: Be good for both of us.

533
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Speaker 1: Like in other words, you should be entrepreneurial, because the

534
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: tax laws are meant to help entrepreneurs, not necessarily employees.

535
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: And so the fact of the matter is when you're

536
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Speaker 1: a small company and you're struggling and it takes you

537
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: years to take off and then you start making money.

538
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: But once you make a lot of money, you.

539
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Speaker 1: Should be buying other businesses because the tax laws are

540
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: there to incentivize you to keep investing. Sometimes lose money.

541
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Speaker 1: That helps you with your taxes so you can keep

542
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: going because they want people to build more businesses and

543
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: create more jobs.

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Speaker 2: Right, So everybody listening now listen, this is why that

545
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: moment will go into barrass areas like I still and

546
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get ahold of you know, we're trying

547
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: to get the time that I still with your tax side.

548
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: Because there's also what Nelly is talking about is tax

549
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: laws and the through access to large wealth in this

550
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: country is not only tax laws, but there's something called

551
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: the tax codes. Now, tax laws are generally laws, and

552
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: tax codes are something now that are implemented and they

553
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: change and they come here and they go right. I mean,

554
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: I'll give you a tax code. I've shared with everybody.

555
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: This the COVID law when it happened, the relief up

556
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: until last year. You can get a one hundred percent

557
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: right off for any of your business meal expenses because

558
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: they wanted to get the restaurants back up and going.

559
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: That means prior to that it was fifty percent and

560
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: then it was one hundred percent right off. If it

561
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: was business related, that means you cannot go to the

562
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Speaker 2: grocery and write that off. You can't go to the

563
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Speaker 2: grocery store. It's even questionable if you had even gotten

564
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: an uber eats. But if you went into a restaurant

565
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Speaker 2: and you put down your card and you were having

566
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: a business meeting, well that is a one hundred percent now

567
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: even in that sense. Think about it like this. If

568
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: you went to a hotel and you went downstairs from

569
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Speaker 2: the whole tell to the lobby into a restaurant and

570
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: you use your hotel card and you said, hey, put

571
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 2: that on my room, Well that was only under your hotel.

572
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: It only gets a fifty percent right off. If you

573
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: took your credit card out separately and put it on

574
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: the table, that would have been one hundred percent right off.

575
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Now could you had saved now ten twenty thousand, one

576
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand, whatever the case is. Tax codes

577
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: are made now they say that traditionally, and it's been

578
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: changing a little bit. Tax codes have been also. They

579
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: have left out minorities and women in the past and

580
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: this history of this country. You should understand the tax

581
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: codes because there are ways that they'll incentive by you

582
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: to buy radio stations, to buy this if it works

583
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: within the tax code and the way that the wealthy is.

584
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: All these people want to know, why don't the wealthy

585
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: pay tax I'll give you an example. If you have buildings,

586
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: as Nelly just said, you just buy a building, right,

587
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: you have, and you buy a couple of buildings, and

588
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: the buildings go up and a lot of value. What

589
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 2: they say you can do I'm not a big real

590
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 2: estate guy. Is you take out a mortgage or an

591
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: equity loan on that building. You now pay back the interests.

592
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: It's not taxes, right, you pay back seven percent, twelve percent.

593
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: It's not a sale. But if you do sell the

594
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 2: business or a stock one year after you purchase it,

595
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: now you pay capital gains taxes. Right. And then Nellie

596
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: is saying, there's also follow so no real estate. If

597
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: you then take that money and invest it into a

598
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: bigger building, you have a separate code that you pay exactly.

599
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: So that's all the good stuff. We will talk about

600
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: that at another time. But you can definitely follow Nelly

601
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: to find out all that. But I'm going to go

602
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: back into that moment where, now, let's think about it.

603
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: Here's exactly what happen. Let's talk about it from Shark tank.

604
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it from your small business perspective. Right,

605
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: you have three or four things you're selling out of

606
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: your store, and you know, let's just really get down

607
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: to simpler. Right, you're selling shoes and you're selling accessories,

608
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: whatever the case. You have different departments. You're looking over there,

609
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: going you know what, the whole department. People always come

610
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: and ask them, well, we're not really investing in that,

611
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: you know what, Let's buy a couple of things and

612
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: put it over there. Let's hopefully think that it'll work.

613
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: But you're doing that by ten different categories than your store.

614
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: What Nelly's saying is they were like, yeah, okay, Nelly,

615
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: I got this a new thing. I think it's going

616
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: to be big. I have a good feeling I wanted

617
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: to go run it. They turn around, all of a sudden,

618
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: the holder is taking up sixty square feet in your

619
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: store instead of ten. Because that you realize they buy

620
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: shoes once, they keep ripping your holdery every other day.

621
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Speaker 2: They keep buying one. They need nude, they need black,

622
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: they need charcoal, they need and now you're putting the

623
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: spanks in there, and now you put holy shit, I

624
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: got a big company running over here. So now all

625
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got a big company, Nelly. I mean,

626
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: you've done it yourself. What do you do now?

627
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: So now I'll tell you what happened. So I run

628
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Speaker 1: this thing for a number of years, like three years,

629
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Speaker 1: and we made so much money that somebody came in

630
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: and offered them to buy the station. This is before

631
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Speaker 1: I was Telemundo, and they sold it. And when they

632
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I was distraught and I went to see my boss

633
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: and I started crying. I think I told you this

634
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: story privately before I started crying, and I said, oh,

635
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: could you do this to me? Because I thought they

636
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: were never going to sell it. And he says to me,

637
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: young lady, those are my chips. If you think, well,

638
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: you've got what it takes, go get your own chips.

639
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: Now what a guy say that to me today?

640
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't know you got the guts to say that

641
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: to me today, But he said that to me, and

642
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: I went home and I thought he was a jerk,

643
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: and I was catatonic for three days, and then I

644
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: woke up a few days later.

645
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Speaker 3: And I thought, I'm never gonna let this happen to

646
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: me again. I'm gonna start a bus. Start it, start it.

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Speaker 1: That's where I became you, but in a different category, right,

648
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: And but I did everything wrong, damon, because I you know,

649
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: what I probably should have done is you know, which

650
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: is what I tell people to do.

651
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: Now. The new guy that was buying the thing wanted

652
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: me to stay, and I was like no.

653
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: It was like again my ego, and I say to people,

654
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: don't leave. Don't just think you're going to bootstrap a

655
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: business from one day to the next and leave your income,

656
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: like side hustle it while you're cut your job and

657
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: while you figured out some stuff, you know, Like I

658
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: went through four miserable years after that trying to start

659
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: a business that wasn't happening, and I had to go

660
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: back to CBS and like do Stringer reports to make money?

661
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: And and I would I would like my parents would

662
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: be like.

663
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: Why what are you doing? You're going to lose your looks,

664
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: you don't find a man. Why are you doing this?

665
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: We lost everything in Cuba? Why do you have to

666
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: be entrepreneur. Why can't you just get a job?

667
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: And I would hear this every day, and you know,

668
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I called Jerry Perenchio back up and I said, I'm

669
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: trying to.

670
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: Do this business. It's four years.

671
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: It's not working, and he goes, When I was your age,

672
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I started a business. I lost money for ten years,

673
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: and then I became a multi millionaire.

674
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: You're only in it for four years.

675
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: What are you doing? I might have said the same

676
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: thing to you, guy, But I.

677
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Also know from helping other entrepreneurs, you also have to

678
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: know when it's time to give up.

679
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Yes, you do. You said, sometimes you gotta know when

680
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: to quit. Yes, that could be a relationship, that could

681
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: be school, that could be a job, that could be entrepreneurship,

682
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: that could be I mean smoking. I mean, but nobody said, boy,

683
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: I can't wait to keep smoking. So people at least

684
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: know you gotta quit that one. What do we say

685
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: to people, because to give them that moment, maybe this

686
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: moment for somebody.

687
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: I think when you are climbing up a mountain the

688
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: hardest possible way. You know, When I was on Celebrity Apprentice,

689
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: Jean Simmons said to me, and I thought, at first

690
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: it hurt me that he said it, but he was

691
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: so right about about this about me, he said, even

692
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: working on Celebrity Apprentice, which was just a.

693
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: Show, it was fun.

694
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: I am so, you know, And he's like, go on,

695
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: I feel like you're an immigrant that's climbing a mountain

696
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: the hardest possible way. Why don't you. Why can't you

697
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: ease into it? Why can't you?

698
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: And he's not wrong.

699
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: And I think that when you sometimes like the biggest

700
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: successes of my life have come easily, like the door

701
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: has opened easily.

702
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: It's almost like the.

703
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: Universe is showing you and sometimes you're trying so hard.

704
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I think when you give it, you're one hundred percent

705
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: all and not one thing is going right. I think

706
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: the universe is trying to tell you something. I think

707
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: that in the case of me with that business, I

708
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: did get little bites. I was getting little bites, and

709
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: why because the timing was coming, so it wasn't.

710
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 3: Completely like otherwise I would have quit.

711
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I was getting little signs of positivity that amounted into

712
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: a volcano.

713
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: Like when it came, it came all at once.

714
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: So I wasn't wrong, but I could have done it

715
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: easier without so much pain. So I would say to

716
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: you if you're at it and at it and at

717
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: it and every business is paying, but I would say

718
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: with you with poo, didn't you get like didn't you

719
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: get like little signs that it was gonna work out?

720
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a whole bunch of little milestones and little wins.

721
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Not that it's going to even work out, that it's

722
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: just to you know what our efforts are starting to

723
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: call you know, we don't know, we don't know, but

724
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: we do know something's here. And I just got a

725
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: little win.

726
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: That's right.

727
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: And I think there have been other times in my

728
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: life where it's so definitively a disaster. I mean, I

729
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: can give you an example that you have to give

730
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: up and you just have to surrender.

731
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: I want to know that example. But I want to

732
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: know how did Gene Simmons, within who's brilliant, How would

733
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: Gene Simmons, within a little period of time be able

734
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: to pull that analogy or or break you down to

735
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: that extent where he can notice it. Because I'll give

736
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: you an example. You know, is it going back to the

737
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: ego or not. I'll give an example. One of my

738
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: daughters never wants anybody to know, I've always kept out

739
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: of the public light because you know, when she was

740
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: coming up, there was not social media. And I always

741
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: want my little girls to be great human beings, upon

742
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: them earning their right and doing what they want. I

743
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: don't want the pressure. However, I do say to her sometimes, hey,

744
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: you know, let me let me call somebody that I

745
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: may know, you know in that position, because I know

746
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: you want you need an internship. And she goes absolutely not,

747
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: And I try to break it down there and say, listen,

748
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: I know you want to earn this all on your own.

749
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: But by the way, when Daddy called my friends, if

750
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: I called Nelly to to to let you be an

751
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: intern or work somewhere, don't think you're gonna get any

752
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: special treatment. Matter of fact, she'll fire your ass before

753
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: she fires anybody, because she's gonna say, I'm not gonna

754
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: allow Damon would never allow his daughter to get this

755
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: special treatment, and get your ass out of here. And

756
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: so you're only getting your foot in the door. After that,

757
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: Nellie's got to run a business. She ain't gonna be like, oh,

758
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: well the numbers are down, let's just keep them down

759
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: because that's Damon's daughter. So I always say, get every

760
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: every little aspect you can is helpful.

761
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

762
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: You know, why does she make it so hard on herself?

763
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: She like, you know, my daughter wants to make it

764
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: no problem. But is that when you're how did Jeane

765
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: find out about you? Just like knowing that you were

766
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: climbing the flat side of the mountain.

767
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Because we worked on tasks together. And he's remember Jeene

768
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Simmons is Israeli and he's an immigrant.

769
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't think people know that about it.

770
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: I did not know that. I just knew he's a

771
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: rock star. And we actually have the same we never talk. Well,

772
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: we've had the same IP attorney for the last thirty years.

773
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Jean Simmons was a school teacher in New York for

774
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: years before he came became Kiss Wow. And he came

775
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: up with kiss because he said, I want them to

776
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: work costumes so eventually we don't even have to perform

777
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: like they could go on the You know, it was.

778
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: A smart blum.

779
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: He is an immigrant Israeli and he knows from he

780
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: felt me because he used to be me.

781
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: Mmmm, that's true.

782
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: So I think I think that going back to two difficult,

783
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: and I think everything is difficult and climbing to wherever

784
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: you want to go is difficult. It's not easy for anybody,

785
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: but you have to really again, and I think you, well,

786
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: that's why we all need mentors. You need somebody to

787
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: tell you it's time to call it a day.

788
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: It is, it is, And I guess that's that's the

789
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: important part, having the mentors to then you know you

790
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: you're questioning yourself, right and I you know, I mentor

791
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: a lot of obviously, and you do too, a lot

792
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: of CEOs and stuff. And the question is gathering is

793
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: much information because when you start moving on these journeys

794
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: by yourself, there's that one part where everybody who was

795
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: the naysay is, which is ninety percent of the world

796
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: who just they don't see the vision or maybe they've

797
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 2: been trained this way. You can't listen to them because

798
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: you're moving into an area by yourself. However, there are

799
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: people who've been there who will way further ahead of you,

800
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: and if you have the opportunity to get ahold of

801
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: their attention, you need that information because as entrepreneurs and

802
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 2: anybody who like you and I and the people listening

803
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: a type personalities, well, all the naysayers are behind us.

804
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: That's right.

805
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 2: All the people who succeeded are ahead of us. How

806
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: do we how do we and where do we get

807
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: that information from?

808
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: You know, well, I'm going to tell you this.

809
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: I think I tell everybody I have had great mentorship,

810
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: and I've had great mentorship because I ask everybody not

811
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: to be my mentor, because I think that's off putting.

812
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: But I ask people questions, and I think I really

813
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: have learned to listen to people older than me. I

814
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: mean my I just had a podcast with my eighty

815
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: year old real estate mentor, who's an older Jewish woman

816
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: taught me. She was a real estate agent and she

817
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: taught She had a fortune herself, and she taught me

818
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: how to buy real estate. I don't know why more

819
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: young especially I'm gonna say young women don't come to

820
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: older women. We don't want anything from you. I've been there,

821
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: done that, bought the T shirt. If I tell you

822
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: don't go down this road because you're gonna fall, you're

823
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: gonna fall.

824
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: So you know the.

825
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Parts of me that have been healthiest, which are my

826
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: business parts? I think I have heard I've had a hard,

827
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: harder time like all of us in personal life because

828
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: I think we're run personally by our hormones when we're young.

829
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: And we make bad decisions.

830
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: I could give I could give the women out there

831
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: that are listening a whole speech about that. But in business,

832
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: I have listened to my elders, and I listen to

833
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: my friends, and I listen to my friends that are

834
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: minorities because we understand what we've had to We have

835
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: a whole special set of issues that only we understand.

836
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: You. I really want to get to I really want

837
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: to get to some other aspects of your life, but

838
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: I keep getting caught on all these amazing nuggets that

839
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: you're dropping. This is that moment for me. I just

840
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: realized something. When I think of mentorship, I think of

841
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: I think of I'm sorry. This is the way I think.

842
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: I think of men and or women seeking out other businessmen,

843
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: but generally men talking about and we owe all my

844
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: circle of meen. We talk about all the men we've

845
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: talked to. And I do know women who come to

846
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: me and about level of mentorship and you know whatever.

847
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: They could be women who are young ladies at fifteen

848
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: or thirty or forty. But I actually have never really

849
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: heard besides women going to other matriarchs in their family.

850
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know if I really have heard too

851
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: many women say. I have a group of women mentors

852
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: from all different walks of life, and I asked them

853
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: who or you know, in their sixties, seventies, eighties, what

854
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: are the cases? And I keep going to them to

855
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: ask them everything from you know, because it's it's challenging.

856
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that that is as popular besides the

857
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: women who probably talk to their aunts and their mothers

858
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: and grandmothers of course, right because they've seen, you know,

859
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: what they've been through or what they who they've raised.

860
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't normally see many women seeking out a massive

861
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: amount of more mature women as mentors. Is that true?

862
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 3: I think that's true.

863
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: I think that I have cultivated these relationships because I again,

864
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I see somebody and I go, God, that person knows

865
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: something I don't know, and I ask them out to lunch.

866
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't like I think you know a lot of

867
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: people come up to you and me, dam and I go,

868
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: can you be my mentor?

869
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: I mean, how many people can I mentor?

870
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: Right?

871
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: It's off putting, But if you say to me, you know,

872
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. Can I take you to lunch

873
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: or can I or you said like, you have to

874
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: be smart about it because I think relationships are cultivated

875
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: and I think that I you know, everybody ignores people

876
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: that are older.

877
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: And when you ask an older.

878
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Person that's wise, that has so much, and you ask

879
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: them out to lunch, are they are they getting asked

880
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: out to lunch a lot? And then they're they're there

881
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: for you because they have.

882
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: Time to tell you, well, here's the best, here's the

883
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: best about older When you ask older people, so they

884
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: give no folks, They're gonna tell you exactly what they

885
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: think now now. And I want to make sure that

886
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm very clear on that there are many, many, many

887
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: women mentor groups. Who are you know, women in collective

888
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: groups slush as you have a bunch a Cindy Whitehead,

889
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: a Canny Valentine, Robin Robbins. No, I'm not talking about

890
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: the women who may be executives all thirty forty fifty.

891
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a forty five year old asking an

892
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: eighty year old about various things in life, who she

893
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: is not related to. Don't get me wrong. I have

894
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: I have a twenty people over seventy primarily maleed with

895
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: maybe three of them women that I still as, Hey,

896
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: what am I not thinking about when it comes to

897
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: the light, when it comes to my children, relationships nothing

898
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: to do with money. And they gave me the most

899
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: fascinating advice that I also apply to business later on.

900
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: Listen to this.

901
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: I went to see an eighty year old friend of

902
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: mine a year ago and she was passing. She passed

903
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: since and the last time I saw her, I said,

904
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: tell me before you leave this earth, what do I

905
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: need to know that you wish you knew.

906
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: At my age?

907
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: And she said, you need to have a great mate

908
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: at the end of your life. You need to exercise

909
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: way more than you ever think. You need to study

910
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: balance because everybody, most people die of falls and it's

911
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: the worst way to.

912
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: Go physical balance.

913
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, balance, learning how to balance yourself. And I don't

914
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: have to worry about you because you're very good with money.

915
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: But you need more money than you think. At the end,

916
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna need extra help. And I said, And then

917
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: ten days later she passed.

918
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: I know if you had asked me that, And I was,

919
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, sick on my bed out of and like

920
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: enough with the goddamn questions already, you know, you know what.

921
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I'm going to tell

922
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: you something.

923
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: I just read this Harvard study on happiness. They asked

924
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: all these old people what they wish they had more of.

925
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: And I really believe that people are craving deep conversations.

926
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the thing I love. Like,

927
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, you and I have had very deep conversations.

928
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get together.

929
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's because we I

930
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: don't know why. We have a lot of some body

931
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: going we go. I like deep.

932
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to go blah blah blah. I want

933
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 3: to go deep.

934
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: I want to I want to really, you know, I

935
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: was telling a friend of mine, I am loving this

936
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: period of life because I love going back and thinking

937
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: what did I do right? What did I do wrong?

938
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: It's also we have children. I think we owe it

939
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: to our children to tell them these things. What do

940
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: I wish I had done different? I hate when people

941
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: say they have no regrets. Everybody has regrets. They may

942
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: not admit it, but they do. Why do you think

943
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: has what's gotten me here still working for me? Or

944
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: what could I do differently going forward now that I'm wiser?

945
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's gotten you there, because some of those

946
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: things won't get you further. And sometimes it's some of

947
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: the people in your life who gotten you there, but

948
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: they can't. You can't take everybody with you on this

949
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: new journey because they're not ready for that journey. And

950
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I hit those four

951
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: points before we leave, because those are the things that

952
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: I want people to know. I mean, those four points

953
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: that you know about balance, about having more than you

954
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: think you need, about having a mate, and those things

955
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: they're very, very critical. You know, I'm only a deep

956
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: conversation with you. I mean, I'm heading to Paris next

957
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: next week. And you know why I'm heading to Paris.

958
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: I've been to Paris a million times. I've never been

959
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: with my wife was always working, and I never really

960
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: enjoyed Paris. And somebody said to me, he said, you know,

961
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: you got a little girl. He said, you know what

962
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: I do with my little girl. I took her to

963
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: Paris last month last year. And I said why, He said,

964
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: because I want her to know that only a man

965
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: that truly loves you is going to take you to Paris.

966
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: So I'm taking my little girl to Paris. By the way,

967
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: my wife is invited, but anytime she gets out of.

968
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: Hand, I'm single, so you better find me that way.

969
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: That's your job, buddy, exactly. But you know, it's these

970
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: little things that it is a little The world is

971
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: moving so fast, but these deep conversations where I mean,

972
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: these little little moments right will change people's lives forever

973
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: if they just really collect a lot of these moments

974
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: and put them in an area where they see what

975
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: fits for them.

976
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: And I think it's important for men to hear.

977
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: You know, you're lucky because you and I and you're

978
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: very open and very authentic. But men don't like to

979
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: always dig, you know. You know, I have a doctorate

980
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: in psychology, so I like.

981
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: To go deep.

982
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: But I think that a life that is not looked

983
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: at deeply is like it's almost like it didn't happen

984
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: if you don't share. You know, my friend Santosis Netros,

985
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: who's are Maya Angelou and the Latino Markets, always says

986
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: to me, you got to write your stories because otherwise

987
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: they didn't happen. And I'm also saying, you've got to

988
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: tell your truths. You've got to unravel the truths of

989
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: your life and share them otherwise what was the point

990
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: of your life?

991
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: How was the reason of your exist sense? Yeah, that's critical.

992
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Wisdom, your regrets, all of it is so powerful for

993
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: another person.

994
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: Now, listen, we've had a we've had a great conversation,

995
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: and this is extremely powerful, and we're gonna have to

996
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: do this again. And I know that so many people

997
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: taken away.

998
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: You and I. I mean, listen, there's no there's no

999
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 3: short of a material man.

1000
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: I know. I mean, I gotta really, I gotta really,

1001
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: I gotta look at this because there's four or five

1002
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: things I've taken out of well by.

1003
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: Saying no, I was gonna say that.

1004
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: What I love I think why I like you so

1005
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: much is I think you and I both love to

1006
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: teach or impart what we know. But I think we

1007
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: also both love to learn.

1008
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 3: Every day.

1009
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they say, you know, make sure you learn something

1010
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: new every day, especially in the morning, because if you do,

1011
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: it may save your life. But uh, you know, I

1012
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: want to I want to put a button on this,

1013
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: you know. I after we've taken this journey and I

1014
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: and and I know people, you know, I want I

1015
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: want to make sure they can exhale you. You w Yeah,

1016
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: you went through all those those turbulent times, the upst

1017
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: the down, the taking of risks, the moving over here.

1018
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden you get to this really

1019
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: great point in life. Not that it was easy being

1020
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: the president of Telemundo and all the Emmys and the

1021
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred television shows, and now you're by the way.

1022
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: In case all of you want to know, I'm Latina Tyler.

1023
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Perry, and and you're at the top of the world

1024
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: and everything is going great. Once you had really turned

1025
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: back and looked over you know your past and your accomplishments,

1026
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: your failures, and you were at that really.

1027
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 3: Comfortable than accomplishments, of course.

1028
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: And when you were at that comfortable place where you

1029
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: can start really deciding on what you want to do,

1030
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: when was the point when you either said, I've done

1031
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 2: enough and I need to move over here, or I

1032
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: want to challenge myself again, or when was that point?

1033
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: I think when I had finally made money, which as

1034
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: an immigrant I always feel like I'm broke, but I

1035
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: finally realized I have like it was a moment where

1036
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: I'd made enough money that I felt somewhat secure. Let's say,

1037
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: and I made a crazy decision. I had a thought,

1038
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: if I were to die in a year, what would

1039
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: I regret? And the reason I thought that is because

1040
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: my son was in the third grade and he was

1041
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: struggling in school and he was diagnosed that he had

1042
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: some learning disabilities, and he said to me, I'm never

1043
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: going to go to college because you didn't finish college

1044
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: and you've done really well. And I thought I would

1045
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: regret if I died in a year. I would regret

1046
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: that my son never witnessed me finishing school. Not because

1047
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: I need a paper, because I'm already successful, but I

1048
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: want him to see that I acknowledge that I have

1049
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: gaps in my education and that I'm not a baked cake.

1050
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: And I went back to school, Damon, and I got

1051
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: a master's in doctorate in clinical psychology. And I think

1052
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: it's the single greatest decision of my life, not because

1053
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: I finished college necessarily, but because I was super.

1054
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: Advanced in business, because I've been.

1055
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Doing it since I'm a kid and super regressed and

1056
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: immature as a woman, and I had made so many

1057
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: bad decisions in my personal life because of my immaturity

1058
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: that going to psychology school and having to go to

1059
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: therapy myself and give therapy to other people and I

1060
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: would say that if I had to do my life

1061
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: over again, I would have started therapy at fifteen because

1062
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: all of us minorities are carrying so much baggage that

1063
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: to cleanse that is a big load.

1064
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 3: Off your back.

1065
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: I realize that I was completely immature as a human

1066
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: being and very old as a career person, and I

1067
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: got to slow down my career and catch up and

1068
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: become congruent.

1069
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's that's a whole nother. That's a whole another.

1070
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

1071
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: That was the.

1072
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Greatest moment for me to be in the second half

1073
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: of my life as a grown mature wise.

1074
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: And you would think, you know, people would think that

1075
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: the level of success with the title or the money

1076
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: or the the acknowledgement is equal.

1077
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: And have I worked within Hollywood that are megawealthy and asses.

1078
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but people think that that's equal to success or

1079
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: and we know listen, we also know Hollywood that is.

1080
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: Does that necessarily bring happiness?

1081
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: So when when when somebody right now and that you know,

1082
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: so people some people they go and take a hoaj

1083
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: or they go and travel the world. They they go

1084
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: like you're saying, or they take up on hobby, or

1085
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: they go and work at childble organizations. They feel that

1086
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: with all this that I've had around me, something's missing.

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00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: You felt something was missing, and the most important investment

1088
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: in your life made it very clear to you that yeah, mom,

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: nothing is missing. I'm going to do this because and

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00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: then you probably sall, wait a minute, no, no, no, no,

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: I want to I want to complete this. I want

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: to complete this area of my life. Will go down this.

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: When does somebody know to do that?

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00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: I think when you're when you're realizing that certain some

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00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: things are going wrong in your life, even though some

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: things are going very right, and you're the common denominator

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00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: in the story and you can't figure out why it

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: keeps happening. I think you wake up one day and

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00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: say something is wrong, and I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: answer is.

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00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: I did that. I have to think about it now,

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00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: reflecting on it, you know, Boble, you know, was starting

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00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: to slow down. I still had my other company and

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00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: my other brands, and I realized that, man, I got

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: all these houses, I got all these cars, but my

1106
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: friends are enjoying my houses more than I am. Never

1107
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: in them. I got a car, I live across the street.

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: Why do I have a driver for a madback I

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00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: live across the street. Is it because of the ten

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: times a month that six people will see me get

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00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: out in front of a club? So it's sixty people

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: that I'm spending. I don't know what driver I'm a

1113
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: back parking it it's sixty Is it? Why am I

1114
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: flying private all these times? Because? Is it because I

1115
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: don't know the four people in the front row of

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00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: the plane the commercial plane will see me? So I

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: need to spend sixty thousand dollars a seventy thousand dollars

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01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: round trip to California to avoid seeing eight people, and

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01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't know I get there three hours difference. So

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01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: I started shutting everything down, and I realized that probably

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: about thirty percent of my money was being spent because

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01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: it was just that's what I thought I should do

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01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: because and I wasn't even listen. I have nothing against

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01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: anybody who flies privately. I got nothing about anybody who

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: just needs to be a chow for it. It's just something

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: that I don't like to do. I mean, I just

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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: don't give a shit. And when I started doing that,

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: not only the money, I just had so much more

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: peace in my life, you know, I think that was

1130
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: the point where I said, I got to start searching

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01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: out more spiritual conversations, more real. Then I started cutting

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01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: people off too. People I was like, why am I

1133
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: dealing you just because you're wealthy or just because you're cool,

1134
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: you're hip, while you're a known slibt, I don't want

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: to deal with you no more. Well, just because you're

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01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: a family member, that doesn't mean you're cool, doesn't mean

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01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: you're not a thief.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think these a has happen, and I think

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people ignore them right because it's too

1140
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: painful to go there to admit to yourself something is wrong.

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: But I think that also when you know we're talking

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: about an era where everything is going very fast, and

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: yet human beings need time to process things. And sometimes

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01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: when we're going so fast in our career and we

1145
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: miss marker moments of your life like a graduation, a wedding,

1146
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: all the things that mark the end of an era

1147
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: in the beginning of another era, you become regressed. I

1148
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: think for me, I've worked with more men than women,

1149
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: and I've experienced men, and I didn't know how to

1150
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: explain it until it happened to me because I was

1151
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: living the life of a successful man, that you're going

1152
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: so fast and doing so much and da da da

1153
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: da da da, and you're not realizing that you're not

1154
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: growing whole because you're not You don't even have time

1155
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: to process what's happened to you. Hasn't that happened to you?

1156
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: That sometimes you're working on a project and it all

1157
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: goes by so fast, and then later you're like, oh

1158
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: my god, I didn't even realize I did all these things,

1159
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: like you didn't even have time to enjoy it.

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01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: It happened short, It absolutely happened. I always sad. I

1161
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: travel the world, and I think I shook everybody hand

1162
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: on the planet twice about the age of thirty five,

1163
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: and the entire world was an airport, a boardroom, a hotel,

1164
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: and a restaurant. And now I will pull my pants

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01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: all the way up to my nipples, put a camera

1166
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: around me and put an eye love wherever I'm at

1167
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: button on and walk around, you know, and eat the food,

1168
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: and go into the hood and see to people and

1169
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: just steal those hours of that day in that place

1170
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: to go know that city. Actually, I've started to take

1171
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: up scuba diam because I've seen enough clubs. I haven't

1172
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 2: seen enough coral or ocean reefs. I want to see

1173
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: the reef awk of Greece, so the reef off of Australia.

1174
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: But get the club all right, And and yet it

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01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: happened to me. And thank God though I lived to

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01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: be the age where I can make these changes in

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: my life. That's right, because so many of us have

1178
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: traveled the world and never seen any of this, and

1179
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: never seen anything in the world. And we did it.

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01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: You know. It's the old you know, I don't want

1181
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: to show my age, but instacts in the Graydlin silverspoon

1182
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: man in the moon when you know, he saw his

1183
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: sun and his son grew up to be just like

1184
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: him and he realized what the hell just happened? Well, listen,

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01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: I am, I am. I had so much that I

1186
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: gotta go back now and digest from this, from all

1187
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: these special moments, from the things that if people don't,

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: if they're not moving too fast and they really think

1189
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: about the depth of this coversation, opposite, they can follow

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01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: you on, you know, and we'll go. I'll drop all

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: your social media in here and all that. But from

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: the points of you know, watchful, the information is coming

1193
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: from and be very aware of those moments that are

1194
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: going to present themselves to the working on somebody else's

1195
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: job and or don't quit your day job, or don't

1196
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: take the flat side of the mountain to asking elders

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01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: in different aspects of life, to completing and rounding off

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01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: who you are, because success is not determined by what

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: the public may see are Do you feel well rounded?

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01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 2: Do you feel like all the aspects in your life

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01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: are are really in shape to the four things that

1202
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: that elder is shared with you that you know while

1203
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: she was, you know, spending the last couple of days

1204
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: on this planet to share with you that you shared

1205
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: with us all to everything else. So I mean, thank

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01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: you so much, Nelly for having this time with me.

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01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: Every time that I'm with you, I learned so much.

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: Go there.

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: I love that you're a guy that loves to go

1210
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: deep and you know what, and I think these are

1211
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: important conversations. And as I said, we're craving to go deep.

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: I think we are, we are, we are so for

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01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: everybody else water Where where can we find you? Nelly?

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01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: On your social media is Nelly Golan right n E

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Speaker 2: L y g A.

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Speaker 3: L A n n E L Y G A L

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Speaker 3: A N.

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Speaker 2: All right, I remember, get the book. Uh, it's already

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01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: find me if you.

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Speaker 3: Go on Instagram and you'll find all the other ways to.

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01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: Find absolutely well. I appreciate you. Thank you for sharing

1222
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: this moment with us, and sharing a whole bunch of

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: moments with everybody else and making sure that now my

1224
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: head's gonna explode because I have to go back and

1225
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: rethink life again, which is great about basically going back

1226
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: and taking inventory.

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Speaker 1: God kiss to you, and I hope to see you

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Speaker 1: sooner Miami.

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: I will see you in Miami, and I love you.

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01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: I love you too.

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,720
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