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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. Good afternoon, It

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Speaker 2: was a good morning in Los Angeles. I am joined

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Speaker 2: by the great Steve Hartman. So much to discuss today, Steve,

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Speaker 2: But first and foremost, how was your week?

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Speaker 3: Tracy? As always very very busy. I've been, you know,

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Speaker 3: watching NFL Network day and night, obviously to keep up

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Speaker 3: to date on all the training camps and everything else.

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Speaker 3: So I figured, yeah, you know, we're all ready to

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Speaker 3: get into a lot of NFL talk today and boom,

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Speaker 3: big story coming out today.

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Speaker 2: Huge story. Good morning, Los Angeles. I personally opened my

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Speaker 2: phone and squealed. My dogs were kind of frightened, but

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Speaker 2: it was it was a squeal of excitement. Luka Doncik

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Speaker 2: signing a three year, one hundred and sixty five million

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Speaker 2: dollar contract extension with the Lakers. My Luca's here to stay.

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Speaker 3: He is here to stay. And the thing about it is, Tracy,

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Speaker 3: give the Lakers credit. They've done everything right since they

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Speaker 3: made this deal, because from day one they made it

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Speaker 3: clear this is no longer Lebron James's team. That's true,

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Speaker 3: this is Luka Doncic's team, and we're gonna build around

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Speaker 3: Luka Doncic, and you know, he gets Ayton, who is

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Speaker 3: in the same draft class as him. They had forged

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Speaker 3: a relationship going back to their draft day. Obviously Marcus Smart.

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Speaker 3: This was a big part of him really stepping in

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Speaker 3: and getting Marcus Smart to sign on with the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: So he feels very comfortable that this is the organization

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Speaker 3: On top of the fact, like he's like this fitness

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Speaker 3: guy all of a sudden, I mean, did you see

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Speaker 3: those pictures?

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I most certainly have seen those pictures and

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Speaker 2: those videos. It's funny. A few weeks ago, Alex and

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Speaker 2: I were like, there was a random post of Luca

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Speaker 2: and we were like, wait, what happened here? He looks incredible,

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Speaker 2: But I mean that as an athlete, he's done all

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Speaker 2: those criticisms from the Mavericks. Look at what he did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just you got a toxic X.

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Speaker 2: You take care of yourself, you got yourself into good shape,

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Speaker 2: and they just face.

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Speaker 3: I like, how you say that, because you know it's

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Speaker 3: exactly you know, it's so funny. I was just thinking

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Speaker 3: about my oldest son who's training to be a firefighter now.

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Speaker 3: But in his early twenties he had a really sweet girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: but he started getting a little out of shape. He

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Speaker 3: was an athlete in high school, played water polo, which

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Speaker 3: is a very strenuous and he started packing on pounds

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Speaker 3: and eventually he got dumped. And now, of course he's

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Speaker 3: a big fitness guy. He's never looked better than he

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Speaker 3: is right now. So it's amazing. Like you mentioned, the

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Speaker 3: X can suddenly really inspire you. Whatever the inspiration is.

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Speaker 3: Luka Doncic to fulfill his promise, and I said this

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Speaker 3: locally here in Los Angeles when Lebron James came to

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. You have to understand that the bar has

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Speaker 3: been set. Obviously, if you don't deliver a championship, your

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Speaker 3: run is an F.

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Speaker 3: You know. Kobe Bryant used to share that with everybody where.

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Speaker 3: He would say, they're really only two grades to a season, A,

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Speaker 3: meaning you won a championship or F if you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Even if you got to the NBA Finals and lose,

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Speaker 3: that's still an F because you failed to do what

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Speaker 3: you set out to do, and that's win a championship.

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Speaker 3: So I think Luca understands that he is surrounded obviously

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Speaker 3: with the history of the Lakers. He can see all

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Speaker 3: those you know, Larry O'Brien trophies lined up and he

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Speaker 3: about any possible run into free agency after this season.

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Speaker 3: Lucas here, and by the way, it also makes it

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Speaker 3: easier for Rob Polenka and his group to reach out

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Speaker 3: and bring in other players, saying all right, well we're

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Speaker 3: building around this guy who's twenty six years old. This

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Speaker 3: is the right way to go. So great news for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And I think this is not a huge thing, but

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Speaker 2: I think after what happened for Luca, he was so

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Speaker 2: as we all know, very upsetting for him what happened

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Speaker 2: And I do think that that made a big difference.

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Speaker 2: And I felt when they made this trade it's like

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Speaker 2: that is what they're doing. Oh, it's so exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's exciting. But also there's been a bit of a mystery.

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Speaker 3: So Lebron James, yes, exercise his player option for fifty

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Speaker 3: two point six million to return, and we've heard plenty

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Speaker 3: from you know, Rich Paul, his group and everything about that.

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Speaker 3: You know, has made no announcement about his contract status.

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Speaker 3: That would be the Lakers. Yes, that is the Lakers

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Speaker 3: have not even acknowledged publicly about him picking up his

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Speaker 3: player option for the upcoming season. And I think part

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Speaker 3: of that was is that we have got to make

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Speaker 3: then look at the Lebron situation. So now that Luca

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Speaker 3: coming up in twenty twenty eight, you can breathe for

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Speaker 3: the next several years. Now they're going to address the

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Speaker 3: keeps throwing out these hints that you know, maybe he

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Speaker 3: wants to be he was working at the Clippers, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's all. But I mean, he you know, when you've

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Speaker 3: been the guy, obviously on every team he's played for

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Speaker 3: your life has got to be, you know, new territory

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Speaker 3: for Lebron. Maybe he doesn't know how to react to it.

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Speaker 3: But we should now look at the next step for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers, and that is, can they make a deal

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Speaker 3: that makes sense for a guy who has an expiring

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Speaker 3: one more year with Lebron and then say goodbye the

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Speaker 3: end of the year. I think these are huge questions,

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Speaker 2: They are huge questions, and what I like is that

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Speaker 2: not in charge of answering them, because that is a

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Speaker 2: lot of pressure. I just had a thought as you

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Speaker 2: the guy calling Lebron and being like, we really want

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Speaker 2: It's just this is Luca's team.

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Speaker 3: Now, oh one hundred percent. And at the very least,

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Speaker 3: you know, Lucas sits down with Lebron and say, you know,

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Speaker 3: last year, obviously Lebron did the right thing. He told

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Speaker 3: So he did hev everything right a year ago. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I still go back to their playoff demise as on

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Speaker 3: feel about you. I don't have to say or do

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Speaker 3: anything to state your case in terms of the landscape

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Speaker 3: and the history of the NBA. That being said, these

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Speaker 3: deliver that? Are you comfortable with that role in what

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Speaker 3: I envisioned for my team moving forward? I think that

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Speaker 3: that is definitely something that Luca not only should address,

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Speaker 2: I think so too. This year for Luca, I think

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Speaker 2: he also matured a lot the trade the trade and

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Speaker 2: what he's done, and I think Lebron had a real

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Speaker 2: effect on the body change. I mean it was something

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Speaker 2: I say all that to say, I think he's matured

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Speaker 2: years ago would if he had had that conversation Lebron James,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. But I think he has matured

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Speaker 2: into a true leader. And he looks at now that

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Speaker 2: and I think he likes that role. You can kind

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Speaker 2: of see it even in his body language, the revenge

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Speaker 2: body aside, his body language is different, and I would

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Speaker 2: love to be a fly on the wall in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I mean that would be spectacular.

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Speaker 3: Again, I look at it, I would imagine that in

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Speaker 3: going to be very honest as well. I mean, again, here,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing that I always say about Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: Lebron James isn't going to finish out a season and

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Speaker 3: then after the season announced that was my last year.

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Speaker 3: There's no way. I mean, Lebron wants to get the

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Speaker 2: Once again, everyone googling how do I unburn a jersey?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, so if it's going to be this year,

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Speaker 3: because the Lakers are pretty clear to Lebron this is it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is your last year as a Laker. Is he

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Speaker 3: a conversation with Luka Doncon saying you know, I've decided,

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Speaker 3: you know, this will be my twenty third year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's all kinds of records. He has continued to have

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Speaker 3: idea of playing with his son on his farewell tour

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Speaker 3: or does he say, you know what, I think I

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Speaker 3: would have a better opportunity in Cleveland to get to

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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. That was the one seed in the East.

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Speaker 3: The East is au ch easier path to get to

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Speaker 3: of this has got to come up either this month

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of question marks. And you bring up Bronnie.

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Speaker 2: That's a part of it too. I mean, if Lebron

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Speaker 2: there's it's not just him, And you know, there's something

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Speaker 2: mixed feelings on it, but I think it is cool

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Speaker 2: that is a cool thing. But that is something that

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he will consider as well. It's just can

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Speaker 2: he be He's still Lebron no matter where he goes,

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Speaker 2: He's Lebron but can he be in a physician where

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Speaker 2: he's not the guy. He could still be that guy,

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Speaker 2: but he's not the guy.

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Speaker 3: Well and also getting back to the possibility of a

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Speaker 2: we got some dramaa with the Cowboys. Massive drama.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you have to wonder what exactly is

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Speaker 3: Think last year, right, the Commanders, Yes, we're in the

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Speaker 3: So how do they stay relevant? How do they maintain

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Speaker 2: Sense at all. It's worse. Frankly, I think how they

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Speaker 2: Stephen Jones personally, and I don't blame him. This is ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: and the ridiculous comments Jerry Jones made, like, oh the

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Speaker 3: Okay here, I'll give you the little bit of the

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Speaker 3: And so Jerry Jones is like, all right, So I

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Speaker 3: For a lot of guys that are you know, it's

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Speaker 3: But there is a way, obviously, to keep a Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: And so I the delay makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think they're trading him either. But how

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Speaker 2: But how are we getting to this point of disgruntledness

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean part of it, obviously, the biggest part

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Speaker 3: they had no quarterback, nothing to really scream about. They

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Speaker 3: were bad teams, and now finally they're relevant and you

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Speaker 3: want out. I mean, I get it. You want more money,

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Speaker 3: but it will come if you can prove that last

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Speaker 3: year wasn't a flul if you guys can follow it up,

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Speaker 3: do it again. I mean, that's the way I would

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Speaker 3: handle it. As ownership is said, Look great, great job guys,

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Speaker 3: I mean, far exceeded expectations, but you got to do

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Speaker 3: it again before I say, yeah, let's sign on for

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Speaker 3: the long term.

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Speaker 2: I see both sides of it.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he truly wants out. It feels a

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Speaker 2: little bit more like a tactic in theory on that one.

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Speaker 2: I think Michael Parsons truly wants out. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We just it just feels like there's a lot of this,

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Speaker 2: and maybe there's a lot of it every year and

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Speaker 2: we just forget kind of our memories get a raise

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Speaker 2: from year after year. But you have Trey Hendrickson. We

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about that last week he's reported to camp,

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Speaker 2: but he wants a new contract. It's just it's a

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Speaker 2: lot you know who's been given out contracts though. The

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Speaker 2: Broncos they're like, we will love to pay you and

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Speaker 2: Sutton this week and then today Zach Allen four years,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and two million dollar extension.

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Speaker 3: Well, and again the beauty is you have a rookie

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Speaker 3: carter back pad tract. When you have that, now similar

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Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers. Now now now all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, you had this golden opportunity for a couple

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Speaker 3: of years where you're paying the seventh draft pick, last

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Speaker 3: pick of the draft, minimum wage at quarterback and getting

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Speaker 3: MVP level performances. But now you got to pay him.

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Speaker 2: Now you got to pay And they missed their window

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Speaker 2: on that one, I think, and then that's you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe a new window opens. But will be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see how this one all plays out. I just know

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Speaker 2: one thing, there'll be a lot more drama. We are

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Speaker 2: going to be talking to John Machota from the Athletic

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Speaker 2: who covers the Cowboys. But first we're going to go

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Speaker 2: to someone who's not dramatic at all. See what's trending

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Speaker 2: with mart Whitey not dramatic at all.

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Speaker 3: It depends on who you ask. I guess said that

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Speaker 3: you've launched it just now.

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Speaker 7: The Broncos and defensive line with Zach Allen reached a

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Speaker 7: was reached a four year, one hundred and two million

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Speaker 7: dollar deal, and the Los Angeles Lakers and Luka Doncics

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Speaker 7: have agreed to a three year, one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 7: five million dollar maximum contract extension that will include a

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Speaker 7: player option in twenty twenty eight, keeping him out of

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Speaker 7: free agency. This upcoming this upcoming summer Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 7: of Fame class so twenty twenty five has been announced

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Speaker 7: with defensive end Jared Allen played played a majority of

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Speaker 7: his career in Minnesota. Defensive back Eric Allen, wide receiver

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Speaker 7: Sterling Sharp Fitzpacker's career was cut short due to injury.

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Speaker 3: Steve, I bet you know this, Yes, you ready for this.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready.

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Speaker 7: Sterling Sharp in the time that he played, they think

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Speaker 7: seven year career, yes, second in the NFL, Jerry Rice go,

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, boy, call that man the book

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Speaker 7: right there. And you know, obviously the first two brothers

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Speaker 7: to go into the Hall of Fame in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Sterling and Shannon sharp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Shannon's one hundred percent right. And Sterling was

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Speaker 3: a much better player than Shannon. He has conceded that

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Speaker 3: of his brother. Remember, Shannon was a seventh round pick, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and Sterling was the seventh overall pick in the draft

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Speaker 3: and absolutely superstar, great guy, long overdue. His short career

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Speaker 3: should not have cost him this long wait. But finally

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Speaker 3: he had his day. And by the way I watched

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Speaker 3: his speech, phenomenal.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he campaigned Channon did for a decade. At least

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Speaker 7: I was front row seat for him, campaigning for Thrilling

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Speaker 7: to get in. I'm glad he was able to.

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Speaker 3: And the ultimate trivia question.

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Speaker 7: Now, the only Pro Football Hall of Famer to never

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Speaker 7: have played college.

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Speaker 3: Football, Yes, the great Antonio Gates exactly the way. Wasn't

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Speaker 3: just a player at Kent State basketball player. He was

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Speaker 3: their leading scorer. They went to the Elite eight. But

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Speaker 3: good player. Yeah. They never played it down a football,

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Speaker 3: never played it down to college football. So there you go.

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Speaker 7: That's your bar trivia, final jeopardy question going forward. But

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Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball, the Cubs have a three nothing

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Speaker 7: lead over the Oriols top of the eighth inning and

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Speaker 7: top of the six the Blue Jays lead the Royals

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Speaker 7: three to nothing. Also top of the sixth, the Piates

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Speaker 7: with a four nothing lead over the Rockies, Phillies and

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Speaker 7: Tigers scoreless in the bottom of the second, Brewers with

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Speaker 7: a three nothing lead on the Nationals, and the top

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Speaker 7: of the second. Bottom of the first the Astros doubling

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Speaker 7: up with the Red Sox two to one, scoreless, between

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Speaker 7: the Twins and the Guardians, and also between the Yankees

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Speaker 7: and the Marlins, and the Mets lead the Giant three

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Speaker 7: to nothing bottom of the first.

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Speaker 2: Any back to you, guys, Thank you Martin. With the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you happen to be.

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Speaker 2: in the iHeart app so we'll always pop up at

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Speaker 2: the top of your screen. Our first guest today is

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Speaker 2: Tatum Everett Vikings, team reporter, telling us all the things

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Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy and other things too. Tatum, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys, Thank you so much. He's actually under center

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Speaker 8: right now out at practice. So Tracy Youth, you loving this.

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Speaker 8: I know your Michigan heart can't wait about JJ.

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Speaker 2: You know what, my mission cannot wait to talk about JJ.

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Speaker 2: I also think we really need to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Vikings defense, but let's start with JJ since he's under center.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen so far from basically a rookie

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Speaker 2: quarterback in this camp?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I love that you mentioned that it's a rookie thing

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Speaker 8: because he is looking good out there and even justin

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Speaker 8: Jeffersons and watching closely from the sidelines right now during camp.

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Speaker 8: But the thing is, he said, you down to be

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Speaker 8: patient with the guy. You know, he's technically getting into

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Speaker 8: his first year of playing despite being on the team

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Speaker 8: last year. I think that he's making some good decisions.

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Speaker 8: I feel like whenever you see a mistake, he's learning

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Speaker 8: from that. And he told me that he finds those

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Speaker 8: moments a blessing because he's able to make these mistakes

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Speaker 8: and like OTAs and MINTI camps and learn from them

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Speaker 8: and try and get out there and have a better

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Speaker 8: rep the next time. So, you know, all it's good here.

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Speaker 8: It's so hard to tell sometimes until things go live.

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Speaker 8: There's a Monday night practice to hear a team stadiums

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Speaker 8: that were really excited about but can't wait to see

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Speaker 8: him in one week against against the Texans.

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Speaker 3: Tatum Steve Harbin here. You know the thing about it is,

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Speaker 3: I've been looking at you know, the preseason over unders.

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Speaker 3: This is a division ad. The Lions won fifteen games,

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Speaker 3: the Vikings won fourteen games, the Packers won eleven games.

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Speaker 3: The Lions over under this year is ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings are at nine and a half. The Packers

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Speaker 3: are at nine and a half. And I would imagine

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Speaker 3: that's because this division looked awful in the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: All three teams disappointed in the postseason. Is there a

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Speaker 3: sense right now that maybe some of the success that

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Speaker 3: this NFC North had a year ago was a little overinflated,

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Speaker 3: or is there good reason to believe that what we

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Speaker 3: saw a year ago will carry over in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think from the Vikings perspective, I believe

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Speaker 8: that that have not changed. They're still as confident as ever,

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Speaker 8: and in fact, they realized from that experience last season

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Speaker 8: that more is required. It's something that Jonathan Gernard outside

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Speaker 8: linebacker Pro Bowl last year kind of came up with

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Speaker 8: and then team has really adopted that mantra that more

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Speaker 8: is required because they know where they fell short in

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Speaker 8: that final game. They were, you know, playing for the

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Speaker 8: number one seed against the Lions and then they had

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Speaker 8: to go on the road and lost in the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: Those two games really tough to watch, but they have

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Speaker 8: learned from them and they're introducing that around the facility

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Speaker 8: is something to build upon for this year. I see

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Speaker 8: the rest of the NFC North, you know a lot

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of people right, you know, the

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Speaker 8: way that they are those preseason odds are said, is

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Speaker 8: a lot to do with consistency and when you were

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Speaker 8: able to consistently keep the same coordinators like the Vikings have,

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Speaker 8: when you have a lot of the instrumental pieces there

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Speaker 8: and you get a lot of free agency pieces that

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Speaker 8: are on the line of scrimmage. They added two defensive linemen,

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Speaker 8: interior defensive linemen that they are really about, and Jonathan

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Speaker 8: Allen and Javon Hargrave. But then you've got you know,

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Speaker 8: the Ryan Kelly and Will Fries from the Colt Christian

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Speaker 8: Darrisaw returns on the off all in the offensive line.

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Speaker 8: They're so excited about that part of the game because

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Speaker 8: that's where they feel like maybe they left off last

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Speaker 8: year what they could have improved. So I think that consistency,

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Speaker 8: to your point, is the reason why, you know, those numbers,

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Speaker 8: did it change too much? And the odds are high

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Speaker 8: heading into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: One thing that has been extremely consistent on this Vikings

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Speaker 2: team is the defense, and all reports coming out of

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Speaker 2: camp is that they've picked up right where they left off.

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Speaker 2: You just talked about the additions that they made. But

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Speaker 2: is how is it looking? I mean I'm hearing like

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Speaker 2: dancers are choreographed, everybody looks absolutely amazing. But is this

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Speaker 2: defense potentially better than it was last year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean I do feel like they are so extremely

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Speaker 8: confident right now. This group is a lot of the

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Speaker 8: same guys as I mentioned a second ago. The dances

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Speaker 8: are still here. You know, Jim Biden did leave for

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Speaker 8: the cold this offseason, so unfortunately it might not be

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Speaker 8: as elaborat or choreographed, but they are celebrating, which is

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Speaker 8: something you'd like to see, you know, translate with your

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Speaker 8: defense that this group still has that chemistry and some

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Speaker 8: of what so much of that is from Brian Flores

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Speaker 8: being in her tree.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these.

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Speaker 8: Cornerstone pieces like Fyron Murphy Junior in the secondary, Harrison

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Speaker 8: Smith safety. You've got Ivid Paced inside linebacker, alongside Blake Cashman,

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Speaker 8: Andrew Van Diigel and Jonathan Garnard outside linebackers, all guys

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Speaker 8: who are now even more comfortable in Brian Flora as

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Speaker 8: the system. And you can just see that translated camp.

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Speaker 8: I mean even using Jonathan Gernard as an example. Coach

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Speaker 8: Floras even said today he's taken it to a whole

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Speaker 8: nother level and he made the Pro Bowl last season.

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Speaker 8: So they're super confident. They're guys the new ones that

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Speaker 8: are learning, but also in the guys that are now

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Speaker 8: even more comfortable under Brian Flores the team.

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, I, believe it or not, I'm always dating

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Speaker 3: myself here, Datum, I do this a lot. I actually

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Speaker 3: I actually saw him play in high schoolt LaCosta Canyon.

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Speaker 3: I was living in Incinitas, California at the time. We

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Speaker 3: had a neighborhood kid that was his teammate. Then, of

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Speaker 3: course he went to San Diego States. I've been aware

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell for a long, long time, and you know

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Speaker 3: what he has done. What he did a year ago

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Speaker 3: with Sam Darnold is nothing short of a miracle. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he resurrected his career and he had a legit Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl level season. But these playoff losses, you know, losing

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Speaker 3: that first year at home to the Giants and then

651
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Speaker 3: you know, a really rough loss on the road to

652
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Speaker 3: a Rams. Does he talk about, you know, sort of

653
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Speaker 3: still learning on the job. Obviously he's just turned forty

654
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Speaker 3: years of age, so he's still a very young coach.

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Speaker 3: But has he talked about some of the evolution and

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Speaker 3: what he's learned now going into his fourth season as

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Speaker 3: head coach of the Vikings, Yeah, he does mention.

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Speaker 8: It a few times, Steven. So it's interesting because he

659
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Speaker 8: is heading into his Spots season, made two playoff appearances,

660
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Speaker 8: and while they have not been incredible, you know, they

661
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Speaker 8: have not gone the way the Vikings wanted. He is

662
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Speaker 8: one of them. Has one of the best winningest records

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Speaker 8: here in Viking head coaching history. I mean, he's had

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Speaker 8: a thirteen win season, a fourteen win season, and that

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Speaker 8: one sandwiched in between was the year that Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: got hurt and there was that huge quarterback shuffle, and

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Speaker 8: it even despite the shuffle, when you look at what

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Speaker 8: he was able to do with the guys that were

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Speaker 8: filling in, what's still impressive in and of itself. He

670
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Speaker 8: does talk a lot about the evolution and the growth.

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Speaker 8: I think that he's a guy that is constantly learning

672
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Speaker 8: and getting better on It's all about collaboration here. He

673
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Speaker 8: tries to bring in the right guys that they have

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Speaker 8: all the right people at the right positions. They're very

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Speaker 8: intentional with that. There's not too much talk about like, oh,

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Speaker 8: what can we do differently in the playoffs? Publicly, I

677
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Speaker 8: don't think that's something they focus on because I think

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Speaker 8: they believe that when it all comes together, those types

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Speaker 8: of moments won't be as will be too big for them.

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Speaker 8: But I really haven't heard him talk too much about that.

681
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Speaker 8: But I do think that he's a very open minded coach.

682
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Speaker 8: Where his style has changed over the last three seasons.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Tatum, before you let you go, who

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Speaker 2: is a player at Vikings camp right now that maybe

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Speaker 2: isn't getting a lot of press or publicity, but that

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Speaker 2: you think people should be looking out for. I always

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Speaker 2: like to knowing.

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Speaker 8: Okay, no, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 8: I would say. Defensively, I'd say i'd keep your eyes

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Speaker 8: on Ceo Jackson. He is a safety who the Viking

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Speaker 8: has picked up off the Titans practice squad as a

692
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Speaker 8: rookie in twenty twenty two and they have been high

693
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Speaker 8: on him ever since. They think that whenever he's around

694
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Speaker 8: the ball, he gets straight to it and makes a play.

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Speaker 8: The only thing with Ceo is that he was behind

696
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Speaker 8: Harrison Smith cam buying them. Josh mattelis The's now household

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Speaker 8: name that football fans are aware of, and so with

698
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Speaker 8: Cam buying them leaving to the Colts, this gives Theo

699
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Speaker 8: an amazing opportunity to up his game and get more snaps.

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Speaker 8: He's had an interception and he's in the past two

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Speaker 8: seasons while playing only two hundred and twenty two snaps

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Speaker 8: on defense, which isn't too much each steven. So you know,

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Speaker 8: I think look for big things from him because the

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Speaker 8: Vikings are going to ask a lot of him. Brian

705
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Speaker 8: Flores likes to use the like C three safetyes on

706
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Speaker 8: play at a time, not too often, but I do

707
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Speaker 8: think that when they use three safety. CEO be right

708
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Speaker 8: there alongside the hitman and Josh Mattelis, And so that's

709
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Speaker 8: someone I think you guy should keep your eye on.

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Speaker 8: That's a really impressive interception so far to kind of

711
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Speaker 8: continue the Vikings notoriety for taking the ball away as

712
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Speaker 8: they hied for the lead last year in defensive takeaways

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Speaker 8: and led the league get interceptions. So you might be

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Speaker 8: hearing THEO Jackson's name a few times this year he

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Speaker 8: picks a couple of quarterbacks off.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's ready to fill in on the dances?

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Speaker 8: Oh, you know, I don't know if i'd count on CEO,

718
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Speaker 8: but I do think that Josh Mattelis will still have

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Speaker 8: the move another Michigan guy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we love it. Go Blue. All right, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us today. Have a great rest

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Speaker 2: of your day at camp. Coming up, we have the

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Speaker 2: dues and the don'ts. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios Tracy Sandler and Steve Hartman, and it is

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Speaker 2: time for the dues and the don'ts.

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Speaker 1: Highlighting the du I love that putting a spotlight on

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Speaker 1: the don't.

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Speaker 2: The subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 3: That's insane. It's time for the dues and the don'ts

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Speaker 3: in sports.

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Speaker 2: All right, See, would you like to go first?

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Speaker 3: I would like to go first? Here a Tracy. Now

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Speaker 3: I'm learning along the way with about the dues and

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Speaker 3: the don'ts. And last week I sort of had a

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Speaker 3: do an a done. I did it again today, so

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Speaker 3: I have a new anadote. So today was induction day

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Speaker 3: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: I thought all four were very deserving. One guy in

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Speaker 3: particular that I was extremely excited for was Eric Allen.

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Speaker 3: Some of them I've gotten to know over the year.

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Speaker 3: Is one of the great guys, a guy thought might

744
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Speaker 3: play under the radar because he didn't win a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: but he got his just due today and Jared Allen, Antonio, Gates, Sterling, sharp,

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Speaker 3: Paul very deserving. Here's my due for next year. As

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Speaker 3: far as the Hall of Fame. If you want to

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Speaker 3: bet right now, okay, put money, maun do bet on

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Speaker 3: two guys that I guarantee will be first ballot Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famers next year, and that is Drew Brees and

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Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald. You can bet the bank on both of

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Speaker 3: those guys being a first ballot Hall of Famer if

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Speaker 3: you want to don't And if I had done dues

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Speaker 3: and don'ts last year, I would have told you don't

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Speaker 3: bet on Eli Manning to make the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: this year or anytime in the near future. Eli Manning.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I got to meet Eli Manning

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Speaker 3: once at the Manning House and he's exactly who he is.

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Speaker 3: Unlike his brother Peyton, is a very manufactured character that

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Speaker 3: creates on television. Elis Eli super guy, love love love Eli.

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Speaker 3: He's not a Hall of Fame quarterback. Sorry, you don't

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Speaker 3: think he's ever getting No, I mean to me Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame Drew Brees setting records. Yes, you know a

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers that level. If you've never

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Speaker 3: been considered at the very least the top three at

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Speaker 3: your position at some point of your career, how can

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Speaker 3: he be a Hall of Famer? And certainly Eli, who's

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Speaker 3: never led the league in anything other than I intercept.

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Speaker 3: Are you on two Super Bowls? Well so did a

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Speaker 3: guy I know, Jim Plunkett want two Super Bowls with

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, and he's not in the Hall of Fame either.

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Speaker 3: So those are the dudes. Yeah, bet the bank on

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Speaker 3: Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald. But don't even consider that

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Speaker 3: Eli Manny will be a Hall of Famer anywhere, not

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Speaker 3: just next season, but anywhere in the near future.

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Speaker 2: When Eli Manny really endeared himself to me, and this

777
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Speaker 2: is definitely not going to get him in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. But when they moved on from Tom Coughlin

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Speaker 2: at that press conference and Tom said to him, it's

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Speaker 2: not your fault and Eli was crying, I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so sweet. But that's not going

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Speaker 2: to get him into the Holly.

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Speaker 3: He's a super guy. I mean, love, love, love Eli.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I have a du do be Brenda's song.

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Speaker 2: The actress from Running Point did the Rams schedule Lisa

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Speaker 2: earlier this year, and she was great. She went to

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Speaker 2: Bram's training camp this year this week and she was

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Speaker 2: just a full on fan, so excited to meet these players,

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Speaker 2: to meet the guys that she roots for. And then

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Speaker 2: it was really cute because they too were fans and

791
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Speaker 2: it was like who was a bigger fan of who?

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Speaker 2: But it just it reminds me, obviously of Timothy Shallaman,

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Speaker 2: The Knicks, and you know, celebrities are fans too. Celebrities

794
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Speaker 2: are people too, and I appreciate in both the people

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Speaker 2: not acting too cool for it but being the full

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Speaker 2: on fan, like she's in training camp and she's so

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Speaker 2: excited to meet these guys. So that was my dude,

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Speaker 2: do be Brenda's.

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Speaker 3: Song, Tracy.

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Speaker 4: I also have to say, she's not just from Running Point,

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Speaker 4: She's from Sweet Life of Zach and Coda, on the

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Speaker 4: show that I grew up on.

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Speaker 3: So I had to make the shout.

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Speaker 2: Out, I'm glad that you brought it up, because I

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Speaker 2: know the show exists. I was not an avid watcher

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Speaker 2: and I actually was thursday years old when i learned

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Speaker 2: that she was on that show. So I'm really glad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you got that in because I'm

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Speaker 2: sure many of our listeners are like, oh no, Sweet

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Speaker 2: Life and Zack and Cody Brenda.

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Speaker 3: All right. So, because I'm of a certain generation, I

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Speaker 3: take it that was a Nickelodeon show. It was.

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Speaker 2: A Disney show that I did know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: On these shows I'm actually familiar with the show that

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Speaker 3: you're talking about, whoh, which is interesting because you're saying, well, what,

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Speaker 3: let me do the math. If you were watching that show,

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Speaker 3: that makes you really creepy. But I wasn't creepy. I

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Speaker 3: just sort of I started, well, I had kids at

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Speaker 3: the time, and so they're watching and then he started,

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Speaker 3: you know, like anything, you sort of get hooked into

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Speaker 3: the characters. It was like SpongeBob SquarePants. I mean, are

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Speaker 3: you kidding me? I was like, there was so much

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Speaker 3: innuendo and that show. I was laughing. My another great show, Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I mean it started with my boys were young and

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Speaker 3: I hear them laughing their heads off, like what are

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Speaker 3: you watching? And I'm watching the show and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of innuendo and this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can enjoy it as a kid, and then

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Speaker 4: you grow up and there's stuff that went over.

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Speaker 2: Your head and you still and as a parent, as

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Speaker 2: an aunt, as a grandparent, you could watch these shows

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Speaker 2: with kids, nieces, nephew's grandchildren and be like, I can

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Speaker 2: enjoy this because of the innuendo and the things they're

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Speaker 2: not getting, and so it's really it's family fun, fun

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Speaker 2: for the whole family. So honestly, I think The Sweet

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Speaker 2: Life of Zach and Cody has gotten a tremendous amount

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Speaker 2: of airtime York, and I would imagine to see a

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Speaker 2: bump in like the Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Well what you people will say, I never heard of it.

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Speaker 3: I gotta watch it.

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Speaker 8: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: You gotta find welcome.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where either its streams.

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Speaker 2: Shari, if Brenda gets some residual checks in the next

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Speaker 2: few weeks, I would like a thank you note, or

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Speaker 2: actually really ian you to get a thank you note

848
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Speaker 2: for making sure that everybody knew where the song was

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Speaker 2: in the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody. And I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna go with one more. Do lock up your

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Speaker 2: best players. We talked about it earlier the Lakers lock

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Speaker 2: it up Luka Doncic, because that's really what you should

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Speaker 2: do when person is going to be the face of

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Speaker 2: your team. You guys, coming up, we're going to be

855
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Speaker 2: talking MLB trade deadline. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: I am Tracy Sandler joined by Steve Hartman. It has

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Speaker 2: been a very fun show so far, but we have

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00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: not talked about something that was a really big deal

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00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: this week, and that is the Major League Baseball trade

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Speaker 2: trade deadline. See now it's real. It's All Star game

864
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: is over, the trade deadline is coming gone. Now every

865
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: single game matters. I don't want to be dramatic, but

866
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: they do everyone well.

867
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: And there were more trades than normal. There was a

868
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: lot of trades. We just didn't see a lot of

869
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: huge names involved in these trades. So insure volume Tracy, Yeah,

870
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: there We're a lot of deals being made by a

871
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: number of teams. You know, one guy that I've gotten

872
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: to know over the years is Aj Preller down in

873
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: San Diego. So this guy, he is, he's notorious. I mean,

874
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: he just he wants to make deals. Like this guy

875
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: lives and he's one of those savant guys. Like baseball

876
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: writers that covered they love this guy, okay, because he's

877
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 3: a true savant. I mean there literally is nothing else

878
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: in this guy's life than this whole mindset of trying

879
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: to make deals and make the pieces fit and everything else.

880
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: And obviously in recent years, the Padres, with their late

881
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: great owner Peter Sidler, was able to open up the pocketbooks,

882
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: you know, buy a Manny Machado and you know some

883
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: other pieces that have obviously made the Padres contenders right now.

884
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: But this guy goes back and forth in terms of,

885
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: you know, basically gutting his farm system to bring in

886
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: players now, which is exactly what he did at the

887
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: trade deadline this time. And then you got a hope

888
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: that it actually works out because then he backed yourself

889
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: in a corner. He did this a few years ago

890
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 3: when they acquired Matt Camp and Craig Kimberle. They tried

891
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: to go all in and it blew up in their

892
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: face and then they had to dump everybody to try

893
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 3: to recover all that talent. So I like it when

894
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: you know dias are made. But yeah, there was a

895
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: lot of trades, but not a lot of huge names involved.

896
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. You did mention Manny Machado, and so

897
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: every time I hear that name, I have to say

898
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: that Manny Machado is my nemesis. He does not know it,

899
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: but he is my nemesis.

900
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: Is this because of the Pedroia situation that he took

901
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: out and basically ended Ustin Pedroia's career, or is because

902
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: he had a bad half season with the Dodgers, and

903
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: they still bow him out of town because you understand

904
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: that Manny Machado is well on his way to a

905
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 3: spot in the Hall of Fame.

906
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: I do understand that, and I am not going to

907
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: stop it. Obviously, I couldn't if I wanted to buy

908
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: Monk a shop.

909
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: It.

910
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: No, it's because it started with the half season with

911
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. It wasn't it was bad. I just felt

912
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: like he kind of lolly gagged around the field with

913
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and now with the Padres. He's at third

914
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: base and someone hits a ball to like left center

915
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: field or right or right field, and he's like running

916
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: across the field to get it, and I'm like, you

917
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: didn't you didn't do with the Dodgers. Then you know,

918
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: he says things and I just he's my nemesis. He

919
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: doesn't know it. Well, if he's listening, he now knows it.

920
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: But he's my nemesis.

921
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: I understand what Dodger fans is saying. And it was

922
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: not an easy situation. And by the way, they did

923
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: get to the World Series, they did lost to a

924
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: team that the Red Sox were just a better team.

925
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: They were one hundred and eight win team that year.

926
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: But since he came to San Diego and I was

927
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: in the San Diego market for several years, he really

928
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: became a team leader. I like, there's a certain I mean,

929
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: he got into the Majors at a very young age

930
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: with the Oreos, was an instant star in the league,

931
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: but he has matured over the year. So I think

932
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: if you sat down one on one with Manny, you

933
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 3: may not be maybe not a fan, but maybe less

934
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: harsh on him.

935
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, I did see him at the All Star Game,

936
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: and this is put me into a bit of like

937
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: an existential crisis. He was asked about Shoho Tani and

938
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: he had really glowing things to say about Shoho Tani

939
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: and then I was like, well, now you're kind of

940
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: my front of it, my friend missus.

941
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Well, and by the way, you mentioned that, because I

942
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: know you're a big show hey fan, you know how

943
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 3: close he came to San Diego. Aj Preller learned how

944
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: to speak Japanese.

945
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: That is impressive.

946
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: He actually learned how to speak Japanese. And the funny

947
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: thing was the angels are never in the mix. It

948
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: seemed like the Patres had the ability to bring in show. Hey,

949
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: everyone knew the Dodgers were in a situation and then

950
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, he ends up with the Angels. But yeah,

951
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: that's true. AJ Preller is still the current general manager

952
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: of the Padres or president of Baseball Operations learn Japanese,

953
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: hoping to convince show Hey to be in a Potter's uniform.

954
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: I have to respect that. Yeah, that is a commitment.

955
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: That is that is definitely a commitment. Okay, let's talk

956
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: a little bit about some of the ones that you're right,

957
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: not huge names, but interesting. The Mariners they improved. You know,

958
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: I think the American League is kind of anyone's league

959
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: at the moment, like it's kind of all over the place.

960
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: So we'll see. But the Mariners certainly improved. The Astros

961
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: I think improved. They bring back Carlos Korea. He's not

962
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: the Carlos Korea who was there, but he can he

963
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: can still swing it back. They get Hey, sus Sanchez.

964
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: There's talk now these guys the teams to beat are

965
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: in the Al West. They improved. I don't disagree that

966
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: they are. They are teams to beat, but I don't

967
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: know if they're the teams to beat. The American League

968
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: is just it's a little funny.

969
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look at that Seattle lineup.

970
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, well, it's it's tremendous.

971
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: I mean, you get Suarez, by the way, I love

972
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: seeing his first name. So you look at that name

973
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: andrez you like Eugenio, and you find out it's a Unio.

974
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: Oh it is, yes, a u n e.

975
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: Oh I've learned not today, you're so I didn't.

976
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: Even know this, right, So you see you're like Eugenio, right,

977
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: it's spelled Eugenio eu g ea and io. Right, it's

978
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: a unio A like.

979
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: The e is like a and then and then oh

980
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: now batting for the Seattle marriage.

981
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: So I had to learn that because you know, so

982
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: aeni o and you know you're talking about I got

983
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: what thirty six home runs already. Yeah, and you know

984
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: he's obviously joining forces with the number one home run

985
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: hitter in Major League Baseball right now. So that's that's

986
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive.

987
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 7: This this was my trick for au henny O Suawez,

988
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 7: who I covered when he came up with the Tigers,

989
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 7: because it does look.

990
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 9: Like Eugenio, right right, Genio yeah right, So remember the

991
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 9: hey you guys, Yeah, so I just kind of like

992
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 9: remember that it's kind of the same sound like going

993
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 9: in like a you like A but.

994
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Then I think you have to say his name like

995
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: that A you and I want to be the Mariners

996
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: in game now, but I imagine you could do that

997
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: all I could have now batting for the Seattle Mariners at.

998
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: Remember this when Sho Tani maybe they weren't sure. They

999
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: just say, showed me the money. Sure, know, so show

1000
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: me the money heny o. Sorry au any oh, so

1001
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: I was right about that. That's that's how it's pronounced.

1002
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to sing it myself every time.

1003
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna know. But yeah, I mean I here's

1004
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: the other thing though, then you had the Angel situation.

1005
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: So the Angels, this was this was the question we

1006
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 3: had Tracy, and we could go like who is actually

1007
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: a contender and who's who's a buyer and who's a seller?

1008
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: And I think for the again, the Angels have kidded

1009
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: themselves to think that somehow they were buyers. Yeah, and

1010
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry they're not. They've overachieved. They had Ron Washington,

1011
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: obviously for health purposes, been sholved for the rest of

1012
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: the season as their manager. But they kidded themselves and

1013
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: they went out, they got a couple of players, and

1014
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, you should have

1015
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 3: been so I mean, they should have been a seller

1016
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: with show Hey two years ago.

1017
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 6: I mean you know that.

1018
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't. And they lost seven straight games

1019
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: after the trade deadline, and they, you know, watched us

1020
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: the biggest star in baseball walk away and they got

1021
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: nothing in return. So that was that was the interesting thing.

1022
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: How certain teams are still sort of hanging on to

1023
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 3: hope that they're actually contenders and made a few deals.

1024
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna bring up a team that we talked

1025
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: a little bit about last week. They were on a skid,

1026
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: done a little better, the Tigers, And this is a

1027
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: team that I think could have been all in, but

1028
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if they made the moves to be

1029
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: all in. And it's interesting, you have like the best,

1030
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: one of the two best pitchers in baseball, and no,

1031
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: they did not. They did not do enough to be

1032
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 2: all in. But this is what's so great about baseball.

1033
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: We saw with Raphael Devers, everybody he goes to Giants,

1034
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: there was like, oh, now they're gonna be hitting, They're

1035
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: gonna be contenter. The Giants ended up not being buyers

1036
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: at all, and you just never know, like these guys

1037
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: could come to different teams and they may be great,

1038
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: they may not be. You're hoping they will be, but

1039
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think the Tigers. I think

1040
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: the Brewers, and it sortly the Brewer don't do a lot.

1041
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: They're currently playing like the best team in baseball, but

1042
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: at the end of the day that it's not going

1043
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: to be enough for the playoffs.

1044
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the Giants. Let's call it for what

1045
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: it is. Buster Posey's been a disaster.

1046
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 2: It's not been great.

1047
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: He's been a disaster. I mean, Buster Posey will be

1048
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame someday as a player, but

1049
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: as a generalman, he's been a disaster. I mean the

1050
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: Verlander deal, oh yeah, was you know, a disaster and

1051
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: the Devers deal. Devers was a guy. The reason that

1052
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: the Red Sox felt that Mookie Bets was expendable because

1053
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: they didn't want to sign him long term is they

1054
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: had Devers and Devers has never come close to being

1055
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: Mookie Bets, not even in the same vicinity. And Devers

1056
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: now is shown with the Giants that he is a

1057
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 3: He's a solid guy. He's not a star by any

1058
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: stretch of the imagination. So now the Giant's completely fallen

1059
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: out of things. So all of a sudden, they were

1060
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: sellers after making the Devers deal early. And this is

1061
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: the problem again when you have someone that is not

1062
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 3: that far removed from the game, only a few years

1063
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 3: removed from playing. So a lot of these are personal

1064
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 3: decisions where he's familiar with the player, played against a player,

1065
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: and maybe still sees a player for what they were

1066
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty or twenty one and not what they

1067
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: are in twenty twenty five. And it's been a disaster

1068
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: because the Giants look like they could be contenders the

1069
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: whole way, and now they're completely fallen off.

1070
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: The map completely. They're so I've stopped checking. So every

1071
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: day I was checking did the Giants win? And did

1072
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: the did the Padres win? Well, now I don't even

1073
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: pay attention to Dodgers. I mean to I'm sorry, the

1074
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: Giants guard a lot of attention.

1075
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Dodgers. I want to get your thoughts

1076
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: because look, they decided that. I mean, they made a

1077
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: couple of minor deals, but they decided because they were

1078
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: being asked for essentially gutting their yeah, you know, and

1079
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 3: they were like, all right, so Blake Snell and Rokie

1080
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: Sasaki are coming back. Snell pitch really well today. He

1081
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: gave up a couple of home runs.

1082
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: In a minor league ballpark.

1083
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: But the keys at him today eight strikeouts, zero walks. Yeah,

1084
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: I mean that's always the question was now can he

1085
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: throw strikes? So he looked good today. A couple of

1086
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: bad pitches, a couple of home runs. Dodgers offense didn't

1087
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: show up today, So that that's sort of where you

1088
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: have to weigh it. You know, if you've got a

1089
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: guys on the injury list, you know, what are the

1090
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: chances they're actually going to come back and play and contribute.

1091
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: So the fact that the Dodgers sort of played it

1092
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: close to the vest I know they went after Kwan, yeah,

1093
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: but the scene price from the Guardians was way out

1094
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: of line.

1095
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: And they bring in brock Stort, who will be a

1096
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: solid addition to that bullpen. Alex call a good guy rotation.

1097
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: He's batting better than the other utility players they have

1098
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: right now in the rotation. I think the Dodgers were

1099
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: super aggressive in the off season, yes, and they were

1100
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: super the off season, so they didn't have to get

1101
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 2: their entire farm system at the trade deadlight.

1102
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: And look at this they get. They get rid of Autman,

1103
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: who was hitting one O three afterting one was a

1104
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: one year wonder. Yes, that was it. And you actually

1105
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: got someone in return for a guy batting one three.

1106
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: And as far as Dustin May missed all of last year,

1107
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: he was trying to come back for Tommy John, he's

1108
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: not going to be the same player. So you've got

1109
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: two guys that you know, three years ago looked like

1110
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: they would be cornerstones for the Dodgers, in dust Of

1111
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: May and James Altman, and now reality is set down

1112
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: on both those guys, and they actually got something in

1113
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: return for both of them.

1114
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: So that's pretty good, and it's funny they bring up

1115
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: Alex Freelan, who's actually he's hitting really well and which

1116
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: just shows how good the fart system is. But they

1117
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: might they feel comfortable. They feel comfortable with who they

1118
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: got who's coming back from injury. The thing with the

1119
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: Dodgers is it's the offense. If the offense does show up,

1120
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: they are the best team at baseball.

1121
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: What do you do with Mookie right now? I mean

1122
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: he is in an absolute free fall, and you keep hoping.

1123
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Dave Roberts is going to show him due respect.

1124
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: He put him at the top of the lineup. Today

1125
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 3: they got shut out by the Rays. It was zero offense.

1126
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: Dodgers have been striking out hit two hundred and the

1127
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: month of July. I mean, MOOKI is a Hall of Famer.

1128
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: He's a Hall of Fame player and my son's personal

1129
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: favorite player. We were there for the well, we went

1130
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: out to the Mookie The only Dodger game I went

1131
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: to this year was the Mookie Jersey Night. So yeah,

1132
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 3: we got the Mookie jerseys. But yeah, I just that's

1133
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: going to be a big question. I mean, is it

1134
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: the beginning of the end. You know, he got sick

1135
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: before the season began, and he just doesn't look right.

1136
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. He doesn't look right. His body language

1137
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: is off. He said, you know, a couple of games

1138
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: here and there, Well he'll get a couple of hits, like, okay,

1139
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: it seems like he's funny. You know, Freddie Freeman went

1140
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: through this and he's he's back.

1141
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: He's back, he's back.

1142
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 2: But it just it looks it looks different with Mookie.

1143
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what they do because they can't have

1144
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: him striking out at the top of the line up.

1145
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's the problem. He's a shortstop. Well right to

1146
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: more shortstops bad in a lineup eighth the nine, And

1147
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: maybe do you do that to Mookie Bets?

1148
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: I think maybe you do. I mean one thing I

1149
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: think about Mookie Bets and this be the fan of me,

1150
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: but I do think Mookie Betts is a team first

1151
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: kind of guy.

1152
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 3: Maybe you do.

1153
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: Maybe he gets his confidence as a swing back if

1154
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: you bat him eight or ninth, because then and then

1155
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: you put show Hey back at lead off. I don't know.

1156
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Let's say you bat him ninth, right, Well,

1157
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: he would still be hitting in front of show Hey.

1158
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 3: If show he's batting except for the very first inning,

1159
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 3: so the rest of the game, he would still have

1160
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 3: show Hey hitting behind him. So that would make a

1161
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: lot more sense to me. Right now, I agree than

1162
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: in lead it.

1163
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more. Coming up next,

1164
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: we have more NFL to talk about. This is Fox

1165
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,840
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1166
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,800
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1167
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,759
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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,760
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1172
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,040
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1173
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Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. You look like you have

1174
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: something to say, sty Well.

1175
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I had been glued to

1176
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: the TV NFL network, any NFL news. You know, you

1177
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: get into the training camps right now. We have the

1178
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game. By the way, I know you

1179
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: have something to say about that Hall of Fame game.

1180
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: I do what stood out about that Hall of Fame

1181
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 3: game for you?

1182
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So Trey Lance stood out, But you got to

1183
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: remember that I was covering. I mean, I covered Trey

1184
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Lance this whole thing, the trade, the beginning of the

1185
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: end of his career, I mean the beginning it was.

1186
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: You know, it was a mess.

1187
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 3: Well, let's pull back the curtain here, okay, Tracy, because

1188
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are curious the whole

1189
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: Trey Lance situation. He played one year as a starting

1190
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: quarterback at at FCS school, which had By the way,

1191
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: North Dakota State is like an FBS school playing FCS football.

1192
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: They've dominated that division forever. He had an insane year.

1193
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: He didn't throw a single interception the entire season. It

1194
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: was crazy the numbers he put up. And then came

1195
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 3: the COVID year where he only actually played one game. Yes,

1196
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: and then the forty nine ers made the deal to

1197
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 3: move up to to get this guy third overall pick

1198
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: in the draft, and the only thing that saved him

1199
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: is last pick of the draft to get Brock Purty.

1200
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: So that is that is very much correct.

1201
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: But what happened there, I mean, I mean, they obviously

1202
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: felt that he had the tools, and I certainly trust

1203
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch recognizing his talent from what

1204
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: you saw up close and personal. What happened to him

1205
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: in San Francisco, well, I.

1206
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: Think it was a weird situation to begin with, because

1207
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: essentially it felt a little bit of kind of got

1208
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: not overreaction, but they're coming off the COVID year, which

1209
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: is a weird year, a year where Jimmy Garoppolo was

1210
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: injured a lot and it derailed their season, and that

1211
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: had already happened to them in twenty eighteen. Then the

1212
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: year before that, they go to the Super Bowl and

1213
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo has a not amazing Super Bowl and they lose,

1214
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: and I think there was this feeling of we got

1215
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: to move on, we got to get somebody else. There

1216
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: is this quarterback draft, let's move up to get a quarterback.

1217
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: But I don't believe that they knew exactly who they

1218
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: wanted when they made that move. They just knew they

1219
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: were going to get a quarterback. So they bring in

1220
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, and you have Jimmy Garoppolo, who's still going

1221
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: to be the starter that year, so Trey's going to

1222
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: be his backup. But every day, every time both of

1223
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: them are talked to, and we didn't talk to Trade

1224
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: that much that year, they get asked about it. Is

1225
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: it weird? What's it like? Is Jimmy been a teacher

1226
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: to you? Do you like trade? Like? Every And I

1227
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: know they say they don't pay attention to that stuff,

1228
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: but they are human, so of course they pay attention

1229
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: to that stuff. Then you go into the next season

1230
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: and there's all these questions that marks about Trey Lance

1231
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Garoppolo in training camp is running on the

1232
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: side because he'd had surgery and they had to be

1233
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: able to trade him and all of that, and they

1234
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: push comes to shove. They sign him at the end

1235
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: of the prese and they say, well, you know, we

1236
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: got a good deal and we know Jimmy and he's great.

1237
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: They sign up because they see Trey Lance is not

1238
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: it and that he does not have it and he

1239
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: ends up getting hurt. If memory serves, it was game

1240
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: two of the season. Jimmy comes in, So now Trey

1241
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: Lance is now in his second year and he's injured,

1242
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: so he misses that whole year and Brock Purty emerges

1243
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: at the end of that season, and that's what happened

1244
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: to Trey Lance. So then he comes back and he

1245
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make He's not going to be their second string quarterback.

1246
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: He's not going to beat out Sam Darnold. So he

1247
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: wants to be traded, not in a dramatic way, but

1248
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: he wants to trade it. He goes to the Cowboys,

1249
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: where he basically was in the same position he was

1250
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: going to be with the freyd nine Ers. So I

1251
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: think what's actually happened here major overreaction would be like,

1252
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, Trey Lance is amazing and he's going

1253
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: to be incredible. But what has happened for him is

1254
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: this is the first place where he probably has gotten

1255
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: some real reps and is getting to play football for

1256
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: the first time in really years. So there's my very

1257
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: long answer.

1258
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think that Jim Harbor is a perfect situation

1259
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: for him. You know, Jim obviously a former quarterback, and

1260
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: he understands that we need a quality backup. Eastern Stick

1261
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: was not the answer for the Chargers the.

1262
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 8: Way I know.

1263
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: It's a god of State guys, but of a far

1264
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: difference in their talent. So yeah, I mean again, you're

1265
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: you're playing against Detroit Lion players, half of which will

1266
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: be working at the local Walmart here in a couple

1267
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: of weeks, so they I mean, so it's you don't

1268
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: never buy into anything you see in a preseason game.

1269
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: In terms of that, the thing I did see out

1270
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: of of him was the fact that it just seemed

1271
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: like he had sort of gotten his confidence back, right,

1272
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: He's feeling comfortable. He wasn't rushing things, you know, he

1273
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: was sort of thinking out on the field, you know,

1274
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: because really, when it comes down to playing quarterback. There's

1275
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: two things you have to have if you're going to

1276
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: be an effective quarterback in the NFL. A you got

1277
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: to throw the ball accurately. That's that's a big part

1278
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: of it. The second part is quick decisions. It is

1279
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: that split decision that you have to make every quarterback

1280
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: go on almost every play, unless it's a handoff where

1281
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: if you're back to you know you throw it away,

1282
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: you're checking down your receivers. Do I eat it? Do

1283
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: I run? I mean these are all split second decisions

1284
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: that have to be made, and the quarterbacks that do

1285
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: that best are the most successful. Yes, And for Lancey,

1286
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 3: he was one of those quarterbacks that you could see

1287
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: was struggling where maybe he was taken off too soon

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Speaker 3: really not, you know, going through the progression of receivers,

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Speaker 3: especially in a Kyle Shanahan offense. I mean that must

1290
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Speaker 3: that drove him crazy. I mean that's what brock Perty

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Speaker 3: does well. Yes, but that was the difference between a

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Speaker 3: four year starter in college of brock Perty and a

1293
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: guy that started one year at FCS school where they're

1294
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: playing overmatched opposition every single week. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: Trey lance is in a great situation with the Charges.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to be the starting quarterback, but they

1297
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: do need a young, effective, emergency backup quarterback and I

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01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: certainly think he could do that.

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Speaker 2: I think he can do that too. And you're right,

1300
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: he looked comfortable because in training camp, practice, I covered

1301
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: him in the couple games he did play, and he

1302
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: never looked like that. He never looked comfortable. He never

1303
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: looked confident in what he was doing. Just even as

1304
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: he was his posture was of aodic leg. She just

1305
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: looked comfortable, confident. I will say he's such a great

1306
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: person and a really nice person that it would I

1307
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: would love to see him be successful. And even if

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01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: successful means he's a very successful backup quarterback, that would be.

1309
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Speaker 3: If you're getting a paycheck in the NFL. There are

1310
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: no matter better jobs than being a backup quarterback. Some

1311
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: guys have made a living out of it for decades.

1312
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: It's crazy, how I mean. I remember, you know, Ti

1313
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 3: Deptmer won a Heisman Trophy at BYU. He was a

1314
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: small guy. His game was never going to translate into

1315
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: the NFL. Played fourteen years in the NFL because his

1316
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 3: brain was off the charts. You know, guys like Brett

1317
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 3: fav work with him and said, this guy is a

1318
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: freaking genius. It's going to have him on the sideline.

1319
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope it works out for Trey Lance.

1320
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Speaker 1: And I don't know.

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: The Chargers are just a whek. There are so many

1322
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: teams we talk about right now. Everyone's optimistic at this point,

1323
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 3: Tracy obviously, but we'll see how we will see how

1324
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 3: it goes.

1325
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: We are going to talk to John Machato about the Cowboys,

1326
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: but first someone we're always optimistic about, Martin Wise.

1327
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 7: The Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty

1328
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 7: five has been announced defensive end Jared Allen, defensive beck

1329
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 7: Eric Allen, wide receiver Sterling Sharp, and tight end Antonio Gates.

1330
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: Going into Canton.

1331
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 7: The Lakers and Luka Doncic have agree to eate three year,

1332
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 7: six hundred and sixty five million dollar maximum contract contension

1333
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 7: that includes a player option at twenty twenty eight, and

1334
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 7: the Broncos and defensive lineman Zach Allen have agreed to

1335
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 7: a four year, one hundred and two million dollar deal.

1336
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball.

1337
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 7: Going into the ninth inning, the Blue Jays lead the

1338
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 7: Royals four to two. The Pirates and Rockies, Colorado with

1339
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 7: the seven or four league that's in a rain delays

1340
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 7: stuck on the top of the eighth inning, there Tigers

1341
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 7: with a two nothing margin over the Phillies. In the

1342
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 7: bottom of the sixth, top of the six the Brewers

1343
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 7: with a five to two lead over the Nationals. Red

1344
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 7: Sox with a six to two lead over the Astros.

1345
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 7: Top of the fifth. Also on the top of the fifth,

1346
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 7: the Twins leading in Guardians three to two despite trading

1347
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 7: on there basically the entire roster. The top of the

1348
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 7: fifth inning, the Marlins with a two to nothing lead

1349
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 7: over the Yankees. The bottom of the fourth Mets Giants

1350
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 7: tied fo a piece, and the Rangers and the Mariners

1351
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 7: Texas with a two nothing lead over Seattle. In the

1352
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Speaker 7: top of the sixth inning, Steve, what'd you make of

1353
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 7: it when you saw Minnesota making all those trades?

1354
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: Uh?

1355
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: Wow? Well, I have a friend of mine that is

1356
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: a diehard Twins fan, and obviously he was in a

1357
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: state of shock. Do team won one hundred and one

1358
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: games in twenty nineteen. Just shows you the more things change,

1359
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: you know? Yeah, there you go, so yeah, very quickly

1360
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: back to you guys, at least they admitted they were

1361
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: dumping the season. That's okay. Well, you know, everything's looking up.

1362
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 3: Everything's looking good in Minnesota with the new quarterback. And

1363
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy told you, well, you know.

1364
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: You guys know I could talk about it around.

1365
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: All these JJ McCarthy fans. You're not the only one, by.

1366
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: The ways, Tracy, Oh, that's because JJ's amazing. But if

1367
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Speaker 2: you missed any of today's show, you'll want to catch

1368
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

1369
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: your podcasts. Right after the show, it'll be posted. Be

1370
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: sure to follow the podcast, rate it five stars, and

1371
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: you can even provide a review. Again, just search Fox

1372
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts and you'll find

1373
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: today's full show. Post it after we get off the air.

1374
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: But first we are going to bring on our guests,

1375
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: John Machoda from The Athletic covering the Cowboys. John, it

1376
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: feels like you've had a bit of a week over there.

1377
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, it's gets fun times over here. Like

1378
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 6: this beat is not for everybody. I'm going to tell you,

1379
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 6: if you have a family and several kids and things

1380
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 6: like that, this would not be for you at all.

1381
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 6: But me, I kind of love it. To be honest

1382
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 6: with you, I'm.

1383
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: Sure it gives you so much talk about our let's

1384
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: what are the vibes? What is going on over there?

1385
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: If you've seen Michael Parsons, did he say goodbye to you?

1386
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: What's been going on?

1387
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's out here. He's holding up his end

1388
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 6: of the bargain. I'm saying that he would still be

1389
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 6: going to practices, and he was out there today. He

1390
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 6: didn't really do much. He kind of stood off to

1391
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 6: the side. But yeah, no, he's still continuing to do

1392
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 6: what he said he was going to do. But he

1393
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 6: didn't talk to reporters when he left the field, but

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01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 6: Jerry Jones did for about fifteen minutes, so we got

1395
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 6: Jerry's side of the story today. But yeah, no, the

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 6: vibes are they're pretty interesting because I'll also add in

1397
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 6: there the pretty good crowd for especially you know, it'd

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01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 6: be in a Saturday training camp practice and it's the

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01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 6: most vocal I've heard Cowboys fans in a negative way

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01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 6: at training camp. Usually they're really positive because it's a

1401
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 6: positive time of year and new season starting, but a

1402
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 6: lot of chance of pay Micah and we want Micah

1403
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 6: and signs that said as much as well. And so

1404
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 6: that's just that is very uncommon for out here this

1405
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 6: time of year, and being in a contract negotiation with

1406
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 6: star players is not uncommon for the Cowboys. So you

1407
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 6: can tell the frustration from fans is about its highest.

1408
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the highest I've ever seen a covering

1409
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 6: team the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: All Right, well, I'm not going to profess to be

1411
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 3: any big Jerry Jones fan, but let's let's let's think

1412
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: about this for a second. I mean, they're coming off

1413
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: a horrific season that completely went sideways, coming off three

1414
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: successful years. And I say that because I was one

1415
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: of those people who really thought this might be the

1416
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: year last year for the Cowboys. And you made at

1417
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Speaker 3: least temporarily Dak Prescott the highest paid quarterback in the league,

1418
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 3: and then he sat six games, and all of a sudden,

1419
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Speaker 3: you're sitting there with Michael Parsons and you're going to

1420
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: offer him all this guaranteed money and everything else. But

1421
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: you also have the option of not giving him any

1422
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: deal and just franchise tagging him for a couple of years.

1423
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Speaker 3: So you mentioned that Jerry Jones spoke his piece. What

1424
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 3: is that update from Jerry Jones.

1425
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Speaker 6: Well, Jerry's the biggest thing in Jerry had to say

1426
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 6: is that it really is that he's you know, it's

1427
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 6: such a concern for everybody on the outside, but not

1428
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 6: for him, that this is all part of negotiations and

1429
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 6: he's used to this type of stuff. The only area

1430
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 6: on that I'll push back on is that I'm sure

1431
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 6: players have told him individually that okay, well if you

1432
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 6: don't want to get a contract done, then then then

1433
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 6: just trade me. But we've never heard anything like that publicly.

1434
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 6: So Michael Parsons is the first player that I know

1435
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 6: of that, you know, especially a star player, they don't

1436
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 6: usually say they want to leave the Cowboys. It's never

1437
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 6: I can't even think of a time where it's ever

1438
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 6: been said with a star player or even any player

1439
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 6: said that he wants to be traded from the Cowboys.

1440
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Speaker 6: So that's the that's the key thing in here that's

1441
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 6: so much different than any of these other you know

1442
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 6: in the past, ceede Land, Dak Prescott, as Brian is

1443
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 6: EGI old Zach Martin like, it's never gotten to that point.

1444
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 6: And but Jerry's trying to say that this is similar

1445
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 6: to those so he might feel that way, but I

1446
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 6: know on the outside a lot of people are like

1447
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 6: this certainly seems like it's souring down and going down

1448
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 6: a path where these two sides might it might get uglier,

1449
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 6: and then what is MCA going to set out games?

1450
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 6: You know, I'm sure Jerry would say, well, I don't

1451
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 6: think he wants to give up game checks, but you're

1452
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 6: right they can. Technically. He still has one year left

1453
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 6: on his rookie deal, so that was that's this year,

1454
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 6: and then they could franchise tag him the next two years.

1455
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 6: And I don't think that that's what it will come to.

1456
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,919
Speaker 6: I think ultimately both sides will come to an agreement.

1457
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 6: Maybe it's a week before the opener, maybe he does

1458
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 6: miss a game or two, and then finally both sides

1459
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 6: come together. But it's not going to happen. I don't

1460
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 6: see it happen anytime soon. And the reason I say

1461
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 6: that is because you know, when Micah puts that out

1462
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 6: there that he wants to be traded, if Jerrie was

1463
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 6: all of a sudden find a way to get a

1464
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 6: deal done right now, that would set a bad precedent

1465
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 6: for the rest of other players in the future to

1466
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 6: go Okay, Well, if it really gets bad, just say

1467
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 6: that you want to be traded and you'll get that

1468
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 6: worked out. And Jerry is just too sad. You have

1469
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 6: a businessman to do that. And so when I saw

1470
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 6: that tweet yesterday, I was like, well, I still think

1471
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 6: they ultimately get something done, but this is pushing it

1472
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 6: back at least a couple more weeks.

1473
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 2: It's given me Brandon Ayuk vibes different because because Brandon

1474
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: wasn't quite I don't want to be here at all

1475
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: of that, but it's giving a little bit of those vibes.

1476
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: I have a question for you, and I covered an

1477
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: NFL team too, and everyone's really good about saying it's

1478
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: not really a distraction for us, for the people inside

1479
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 2: the building. However, this can't be not a distraction. It's

1480
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: just not possible. Do you think it is affecting the

1481
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: rest of the team.

1482
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 6: I think it is to a certain extent, very very

1483
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 6: very low extent right now, because they're not playing games,

1484
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 6: and you know, guys are out here trying to make

1485
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 6: the team and they're trying to, you know, worry about

1486
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 6: their own careers. So not so much right now. But

1487
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 6: if you got into the season and then it turns

1488
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 6: into Okay, you know, guys are getting asked all the

1489
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 6: time about it. They're not winning games, the defense isn't

1490
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 6: playing as well. Obviously he's their best defensive player. I

1491
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 6: think that could really change things. But yeah, it would

1492
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 6: be it would be a lie to say that if

1493
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 6: this keeps going on longer and longer, that it's not

1494
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 6: going to affect the team. And let's be honest, there's

1495
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 6: there's a new head coach, Brian Schynon Resid head coached before,

1496
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 6: and so there's a lot in his play to deal

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Speaker 6: with that as well, not just with the team but

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 6: also obviously with media obligations and things like that. This

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 6: is going to be, you know, a big story until

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01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 6: a contract is done. And that's that's the part that's

1501
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 6: interesting about the Cowboys because Jerry Jones is great with

1502
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 6: this stuff. I mean, you know, he's in his eighties,

1503
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 6: he's been doing business deals that I'm sure things have

1504
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 6: gotten way uglier than this ever has, and he's fine

1505
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 6: with it, and he's got a This is almost like

1506
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 6: a comfort level for him. But even though you might

1507
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 6: be comfortable in this, that doesn't mean everybody else around

1508
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 6: you is comfortable. And so at some point, I think

1509
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 6: that it gets to a level to where there's some

1510
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 6: type of communication, and I think once that communication happens,

1511
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 6: I think it comes together pretty quickly. But as of today,

1512
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 6: you know, Jerry Jones still hasn't talked to David Mulligata,

1513
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 6: Michael Parson's agent, and he hasn't talked to Michael Parsons

1514
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 6: since Michael Parson's request of the trade.

1515
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 3: Ryan Schottneimer getting an opportunity to be a head coach,

1516
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: give us a early i won't say report card, but

1517
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: an earlier review of what you see because obviously he

1518
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: spent a long time assistant his father, obviously one of

1519
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 3: the most successful coaches in NFL history. What do you

1520
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: see in Brian now that he is the head guy.

1521
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 6: You know, he reminds me a lot of Pete Carroll,

1522
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 6: and he reminds me a lot of Dan Quinn, who

1523
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 6: obviously was here as a defensive coordinator when Brian was

1524
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 6: on staff, and so they know. Both those guys know

1525
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 6: Brian well, and Brian has talked many times glowingly about

1526
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 6: their impact on him, and you can just it's just

1527
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 6: a very positive vibe, like moving around practice constantly, all

1528
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 6: around different groups and things like that. Just high energy,

1529
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 6: very very positive. He's not you know, he's not really

1530
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 6: going to scream at you and do a lot of

1531
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 6: negative stuff. He's trying to lift you up and and

1532
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 6: have a lot of energy, positive vibes that practice and

1533
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 6: up to this point, that's great, and that stuff it's

1534
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 6: going to work in training camp. Like, there's nothing you

1535
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 6: can be critical about in training camp. The thing is, though,

1536
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 6: is if they don't have success on Sundays, then you

1537
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 6: come back to some of that stuff and you're like, well,

1538
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 6: maybe it was too much of that, maybe they needed

1539
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 6: more discipline.

1540
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1541
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 6: It's obviously Pete Carroll's had a lot of success coaching

1542
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 6: that way, and dan Quinn has had a lot of

1543
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 6: success as well too, and so I think that that

1544
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 6: is more of the path that he would be on.

1545
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 6: Then let's say Mike McCarthy or his dad, Marty Schottenheimer,

1546
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 6: or even a Steve Spurrier who other mentors for him. Obviously,

1547
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 6: you know, he played at Florida. So I would say

1548
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 6: the closest comp I can give you without actually seeing

1549
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 6: him coach a game on Sunday would be Pete Carroll

1550
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 6: or Dan Quinn.

1551
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: He had said earlier in the spring that Dak Prescott

1552
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: was in a developmental phase, and I know that got

1553
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: a lot of press and he maybe didn't mean it

1554
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: that way. However, how have you seen them interact and

1555
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: what does their relationship seem like so far?

1556
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, they're really close. I don't think that Brian

1557
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 6: Schoenheimer gets that job if it's not a good relationship

1558
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 6: with Dak. Now, yeah, I think that thing was taking

1559
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 6: a little bit out of context just because that Dak

1560
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 6: hasn't had, you know, the playoff success and it's been

1561
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 6: now almost thirty years since the Cowboys have had playoff success,

1562
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 6: and so he takes a lot of brunt to that.

1563
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 6: But Brian was just meaning that Dak is still he's

1564
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 6: still improving in areas like he's not a finished product

1565
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 6: as he's in his entering his tenth season, and so

1566
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 6: I think that's more of what he meant there. But no,

1567
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 6: they're really close, you know. I Again, I just I

1568
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 6: can't see when they were kind of putting a spot

1569
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 6: where Jerry thought for a while there after the season

1570
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 6: ended that he'd end up going forward to Mike McCarthy

1571
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 6: as head coach, and then when that ended up kind

1572
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 6: of falling apart there. I just think when those talks

1573
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 6: with Bran shain Emmer, it never would have elevated to

1574
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 6: him being the head coach if he didn't have a

1575
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 6: good rapport with Dak Prescott, who's obviously not just their

1576
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 6: highest paid player, but the highest player paid player in

1577
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 6: the NFL.

1578
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of drama over at Cowboys camp. Would

1579
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how this unfolds. John really appreciate

1580
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: you joining us and your insight. We will be coming

1581
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: up with your feel good stories of the week. This

1582
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday. We are coming to you live

1583
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios Tracy Sandler with Steve Hartman,

1584
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: and we have come to a lovely part of the show.

1585
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: We've had a really big show. There's been so much

1586
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: to talk about, and I love it.

1587
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: It feels like we literally just started the show.

1588
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 2: It really does. This has flown by and flown by

1589
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: to the feel good stories of the week. So would

1590
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 2: you like to start it? Would you like me to start?

1591
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what you have, but I'll start

1592
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: with what I thought was a really good feel good

1593
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 3: story because this time last week there was a report

1594
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: it could be a very sad story. But I'm talking

1595
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 3: about the Dion Sanders story as it was now revealed

1596
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: and he had doctors there that he was diagnosed with

1597
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 3: bladder cancer. I'll say this about Dion Sanders. I mean,

1598
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: he's a very controversial figure because of his larger than

1599
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 3: life personality. He was one of the greatest players in

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 3: the history of football. And not only that, he's the

1601
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 3: only one ever to play in a Super Bowl and

1602
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 3: a World Series. He was more than a marginal baseball player.

1603
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: He could actually play at a high level. So we're

1604
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 3: talking about one of the most remarkable athletes we've ever seen.

1605
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: But the whole idea of him getting into the coaching

1606
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 3: situation to be with his sons essentially was it. And

1607
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: obviously at Jackson Stave and obviously moving on to Colorado.

1608
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: I just want to see what he can do after

1609
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 3: shudor after Travis Hunter, and see is he really legit,

1610
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: Like can he build a career. I felt like he

1611
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 3: wanted to reach out and help his sons, which is great.

1612
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: As a dad, I can one hundred percent back that up.

1613
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 3: But if you're going to continue to be a coach

1614
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 3: and your sons have moved on now in their lives.

1615
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: Can you still get done? We still have that motivation

1616
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: to coach high level. So I was concerned a week ago,

1617
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 3: like is he going to step down? We don't know

1618
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 3: really what's up. Doctors are going to be at this

1619
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: press conference. So for him to say that he's gotten

1620
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: through this latest health crisis, keep our fingers crossed. I'm

1621
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 3: just excited that he's going to get that opportunity to

1622
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 3: continue his coaching career. I'm very anxious to see what

1623
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: he'll do next.

1624
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm too. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun

1625
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: to see, all right, mine, I'm going a little backstory

1626
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: stems back to some friends from Iowa State, Brock Purty

1627
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: and Tyrese Halliburton, very good friends from Iowa State, each

1628
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: of them having a pretty big week. Brock Purty and

1629
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: his wife Jenna welcome their first child this week, a daughter,

1630
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: and Tyrese Halliburton got engaged. So a big week for

1631
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 2: the close friends and their friendship's been fun to watch.

1632
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 2: And you know, when brock Purty was starting, Tyre's Halliburton

1633
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: had a game against the Warriors and texted him, here

1634
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: are you coming to the game. In fact, all the

1635
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: fen and Air's rookies were going to that game, and

1636
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: he said, are you going to be there? And he said, dude,

1637
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: I can, I'm starting now I have to. And I

1638
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 2: think that was the exact text, Dude, I can and

1639
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm starting. So it's pretty incredible to obviously see what's

1640
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: happened to Brock between then and now and for Tyrese Halliburton.

1641
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 2: So I thought it was kind of fun that the

1642
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 2: besties both had a pretty good week.

1643
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 6: Well.

1644
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: I like stories like that because you talk about two

1645
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 3: guys that no one was projecting to be All Star

1646
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl level players when they ventured into the professional ranks.

1647
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 3: You know they'll be guys, you know, good players. You know,

1648
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: maybe they have a chance to contribute. So the fact

1649
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: that they share that, you know, ability to get to

1650
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: the top or close to the top.

1651
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really And actually both of them met their

1652
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: significant others at Iowa.

1653
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: State and Iowa State and Ames Iowa, yep, Ames Iowa.

1654
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 3: Now my sister, My sister has lived in Iowa for

1655
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: over forty years. The valley girl who moved to Iowa

1656
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 3: what part Iowa right out of Cedar Rapids?

1657
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: Okay, George Kittles from Iowa he loves Iowa and he

1658
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: went to Iowa.

1659
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 3: Well, and a ken When do you think about a

1660
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: guy like Kurt Warner at the quarterback went to Northern

1661
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 3: I was started one year and then the rest all

1662
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 3: the way to the Hall of Fame. But well, the

1663
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: thing about you, Tracy is you're going to be heading

1664
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 3: back to the Bay Area?

1665
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 8: Are you?

1666
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 3: I sure?

1667
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: I am sure I'm going to be heading back tomorrow.

1668
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 3: So what is the buzz? That is a team that

1669
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to really get a read on is the

1670
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers. I've said this. I mean I was

1671
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: asked yesterday on a radio show. I was appearing on

1672
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 3: the host of the show, a big forty nine Er fan.

1673
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: I know that, and I said my takeaway was simply this,

1674
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: If Christian McCaffrey is healthy, they'll be fine. Yes, if

1675
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 3: he's not, they're in trouble.

1676
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: I would agree with that. I would say the same

1677
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: thing for Trent Williams. That's going to be a big one.

1678
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 3: That's well, how many years can Trent Williams play Well.

1679
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: That remains to be seen. But they are still on

1680
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 2: that offensive line. It basically a Trent Williams injury away

1681
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: from it all being over similar to Christian McCaffrey. So

1682
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: I think you are correct about that. This is a

1683
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 2: team that's very young. Now they got their core and

1684
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: they still have a decent part of that Kark. Kyle

1685
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: use Check said that earlier this week, because we still

1686
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of our core, and they do. But

1687
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: they have a lot of young guys on this team

1688
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: and a lot of guys fighting for roster spots, which

1689
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: is good. It's created quite a bit of competition. But

1690
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: they have a lot of question marks. When will Brandon

1691
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: i Yuk be back. Juwan Jennings who wanted a new

1692
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 2: deal and reportedly requested a trade but formerly has not.

1693
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: He's injured now he's dealing with a calf injury he's reaggravated.

1694
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: So they have a lot of question marks. I think

1695
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: this team will be better than they were last year.

1696
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: I think they want to follow the Rams model of

1697
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: last year, is that they have this core and as

1698
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: the season goes on, these young guys get better and better.

1699
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: I will say, Mikael Williams, their first round draft pick,

1700
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: is tremendous and in my time covering football, certainly one

1701
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: of the best rookies I've seen. So if he is

1702
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: able to stay healthy and really be who they need

1703
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 2: him to be. It's going to be tremendous for the defense.

1704
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 2: He's a heck of a football.

1705
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 8: Well.

1706
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: I think Sla is going to bring a lot to

1707
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 3: the defense. I don't think that's any question about that.

1708
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: But you need game brand makers. You know, Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 3: For a couple of years, there was that well dynamic

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Speaker 3: where teams had to just you know, to figure him out.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's the missing They're not in.

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Speaker 2: Theory, it's Christian, but they're not. This is not a

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Speaker 2: team that's going to a super Bowl. But that being said,

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Speaker 2: I've had a really good time with you today. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next to Jason Fitz and Buck Reesing, we are

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