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Speaker 2: My ex demands I pay child support, but her kid

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Speaker 2: isn't mine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not really how that works Usually then

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Speaker 1: you should just say no.

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Speaker 2: Some years ago, I dated a girl. The relationship was bad.

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Speaker 2: She was very controlling and abusive. It ended up really

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Speaker 2: badly and we broke up. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: subridt it. So the thing is, a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 2: after getting my job, my ex contacted me. She first

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Speaker 2: asked me to talk. I believe that she may want

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Speaker 2: to reconnect or something, but she showed up with a

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Speaker 2: five year old child, claiming he was my son.

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Speaker 1: You've activated my trap card? What five year old child?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 1: It means that she sprung a traph the child child

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Speaker 1: trap and.

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Speaker 2: Demanding child support. I didn't believe her, but the child's

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Speaker 2: age matched the time. Since we cut contact I got

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Speaker 2: advice from a lawyer, a friend of mine, to try

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Speaker 2: to solve this out of court. I offered to take responsibility,

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Speaker 2: pay all the costs, and be an active part of

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Speaker 2: the kid's life only after taking a DNA test. Good

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Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, you're like, I'll do it if you've

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Speaker 2: got proof.

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Speaker 1: Sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: Everyone was okay with this except for my ex. She

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Speaker 2: acted offended and demanded to just give her the money

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Speaker 2: she deserved. She used all the excuses she could, even

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Speaker 2: contacted my family to tell them I was trying to

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Speaker 2: avoid taking responsibility for her child. Emphasis on the her

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Speaker 2: child part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is that's such a weird thing to be like, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: how dare It's like, yeah, that's the most sensible thing

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Speaker 1: to do in that moment is take the test. Taking

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Speaker 1: care of like doing child support in this context without

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Speaker 1: doing that test is like it's like walking into a

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Speaker 1: bank and being like, I'd like a loan of fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars please, and.

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Speaker 2: They're like, well, we're gonna have to look at your

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Speaker 2: credit score, and you're.

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Speaker 3: Like, no, you don't, No, you don't, no, you don't.

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Speaker 3: Just don't trust me right now.

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Speaker 2: When she ran out of excuses, and the DNA test

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Speaker 2: was finally taken. Surprise, surprise, I'm not the father. She

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Speaker 2: was so mad with the result and cried with the money,

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Speaker 2: saying it was unfair and she deserved it, but she

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Speaker 2: didn't accomplish anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just go find the dad, real dad, and then

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Speaker 3: do this again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it for real this time. Moving on to

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Speaker 2: last week, there was a little party at my parents' house.

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Speaker 2: My brother, a friend, and I were talking and my

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Speaker 2: My friend and I started to joke about it too.

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Speaker 2: Some of our comments were a little dark and bad,

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Speaker 2: but we were far away from the rest of the people. Literally,

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Speaker 2: we thought. What were y all joking about?

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Speaker 1: I want the transcript on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were laughing like crazy when my sister appeared

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Speaker 2: She started to yell at us about how horrible people

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Speaker 2: her version and that was her way to have an intervention. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: your sister believes that you're the kid's father, even though

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Speaker 1: My mom. Okay, but really quick, yes, were you making

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, Yeah, so no.

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Speaker 1: One's being cruel because these are jokes said about a

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Speaker 2: Potentially the jokes were like rude or maybe like uncouth

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Speaker 2: friends at like in a corner and a party, right,

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Speaker 2: And it seems like your sister's problem with it is

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Speaker 1: Father, which you're not, which you're not the father. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: My mom then surprised all of us when she said,

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Speaker 2: even if the kid is not yours, you're making more

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Speaker 1: You should have helped her. Oh day, that's a crazy take.

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Speaker 1: Where does that end? Where does that logic train?

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Speaker 2: Do we have to help all of the children, all

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Speaker 2: of the children that like don't have fathers. It's your responsibility, right, Ope,

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Speaker 2: you are now social Security.

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Speaker 3: You're taking on the duties of the state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Since then, I have been receiving texts. My dad and

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Speaker 2: my brother are on my side saying I'm not responsible

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Speaker 2: for but my sister is telling me how horrible I

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Speaker 2: am for ruining their lives. Did you ruin their lives?

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Speaker 2: My mom only said it's your decision and I respect it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just very disappointed that you ended up being so selfish.

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about? They broke up badly from

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the story ago, Yeah, this is not ops.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not being selfish here and.

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Speaker 2: Then and then I think what you do is you

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Speaker 2: go back to your mom and you say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: You're right, I've also found you a child to pay

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sponsor this child. Also this child.

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Speaker 2: I thought we could all sponsor a child together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so here you go.

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Speaker 2: For this random child.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 2: I'm aware that she doesn't deserve my money and I'm

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Speaker 2: And there is an update. But do you have any

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Speaker 2: other thoughts before we get into it.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand being in this situation and then

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Speaker 1: Into it at all. I completely shut down all conversation

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Speaker 1: of this and be like that that's not my kid though, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how you would. I wouldn't entertain

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Speaker 2: I feel maybe limit contact with mom and sister.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, or at least.

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Speaker 2: Until they come to their senses, if they ever do.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that they're guilting you for not taking

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Speaker 2: care of a child that isn't yours ridiculous. But there

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Speaker 3: Baffling situation, truly baffling.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while after my last post. I read

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Speaker 2: all the comments and decided to show them to my mother.

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Speaker 2: We had to talk about the situation again. She started

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, your mom did. I don't know somebody did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your mom did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She was like, ooh, I I was crazy there. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: She just took the whole internet telling me so yeah.

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Speaker 1: Lying, yes, the good old fashioned nahuh, because I don't

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Speaker 2: I nah, she said, she said, you're lying, so I

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Speaker 2: She just had to read the Reddit.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I guess to be like, oh wait, that's how

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Speaker 3: It's when it's your kid that it's your responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's sorry, totally totally misread the terms and conditions.

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Speaker 1: And like you can have empathy for this, like single mom, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: On the other side, my sister, at first she decided

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Speaker 2: She's like, I don't need to look at the science.

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Speaker 3: I believe women.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as two sides. There's only women.

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Speaker 2: Good women, good everyone else wrong.

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Speaker 2: Ah, And if you show me a woman's word and

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Speaker 2: then also the word of a female scientist, it's kind

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Speaker 1: That's why it's dangerous to have two women talking to

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Speaker 2: And then I just sit there and I cry.

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Speaker 1: The world collapses into a singularity.

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Speaker 2: Also, she said that even if you're not the biological father,

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Speaker 2: you have an effective responsibility with her. So you must

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Speaker 2: be man enough to take charge of them and start

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Speaker 2: acting like a real man. What is your sister on?

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Speaker 1: What are you on about?

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Speaker 2: Colt has? She joined she was a lost cause. About

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Speaker 2: my ex, I did some research and I found out

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Speaker 2: or maybe she was cheating on me with him before,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. They broke up some weeks later, and

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Speaker 2: she had multiple dates until she found out she was pregnant.

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Speaker 2: I also found out that she's been trying to find

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Speaker 2: and I was the next on the list.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's got a list.

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Speaker 2: She's just going down. All the people like going down

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Speaker 2: the list of all the people that she's dated or

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Speaker 2: like finding people on hinge and she's like, I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean they're coming to his job. They're coming to

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Speaker 2: Or like, wow, why do you need this money so bad?

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Speaker 3: Or you make it an sign in a way that

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Speaker 2: Here's the proof. Yeah, to not make the story too long,

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Speaker 2: You're being harassed.

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Speaker 2: It's not true? Yeah, it says what he said I

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Speaker 2: I'm going against them with everything. Maybe that'll scare them

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Speaker 1: Money, money, I want your money, your money, the police,

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Speaker 1: call the state, call the police.

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Speaker 2: Your job and the X this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at this point, let your job fire

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Speaker 2: At least that's quite common. Employers don't like drama at

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Speaker 2: then take it to the court. Update to hi everyone,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the lack of news. The last few

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not allowed to talk a lot

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Speaker 2: And then you say, uh no, maybe you should have

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Speaker 3: Exactly did you think about that?

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Speaker 2: And then you also go to your job and you

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Speaker 1: You say, I'm Maddie.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say you can fire me. I quit,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, or I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: What we fired you because you said we dang.

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Speaker 2: She is now begging me to drop it. She offered

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Speaker 2: You have so much power over this woman's son's life

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Speaker 2: She's like, you have the power to ruin everything, and

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Speaker 2: you're just like living life. You haven't seen her in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Like, I don't know if this is not

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Speaker 2: No, like, go away girl, But honestly, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I got tired of being the good guy a long

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Speaker 2: moved it too social media, spreading her ps about me

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Speaker 2: legal actions like acts of censorship and misogyny. But in

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Speaker 2: because I can dismiss her defamation easily, but also because

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Speaker 2: it's more evidence in our favor. I mean, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: She can't stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you up proof, like, not only is

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Speaker 1: If she would just use like this effort to find

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Speaker 3: I'm accused.

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Speaker 2: Why they haven't. Maybe she did.

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Speaker 2: Like a bum yeah, and she's like, well, now I

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Speaker 1: Find a father in a higher tax bracket. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, this is going to be a long road and

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Speaker 2: we're just beginning. Recently, we had a pasada at my parents' home.

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Speaker 2: Every year, we use this excuse to make a big

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Speaker 4: Uh no, no, Yeah, I think that you have to

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Speaker 4: even if they're not supporting your sister, they're allowing this

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Speaker 3: They're they're pretending this is your kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all crazy.

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Speaker 3: Why is she at the family Christmas party?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the sister, not the ex.

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Speaker 1: Be clear. Oh never mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that makes sense. Why she's at the house.

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Speaker 2: She's she's got a reason to be there.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, no, what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 2: Mom decided that despite everything that happened, I was taking

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Speaker 2: You you were the one who could have fixed it

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Speaker 2: way earlier if you had just checked your daughter's actions

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just you're like, I'm disappointed in how selfish

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I tried to get out of there the moment I

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Speaker 2: let go. You can't forgive someone who hasn't apologized.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're actively still doing the behaviors still. It's like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I apologize. I mean I forgive you. I forgive you,

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Speaker 2: You feel it and you never have to apologize. Ever.

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Speaker 2: I realized that despite everything, even knowing I was telling

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Speaker 3: Of anyone feels like a merry go round to be nowhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go downs are true. Oh, at this point,

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Speaker 2: them think my sister is crazy. Some others think she's crazy,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to go after what she did, but

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Speaker 1: Don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: But not only had she planned to do it again.

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Speaker 2: lock me in until I forgive my sister and stop

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Speaker 2: the nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Lock you and where false imprisonment, lock you in the

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Speaker 2: Stay in that bathroom until you pay for your not child.

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00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 2: I called my mom and told her I knew and

444
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: that I was done with her my sister. I told

445
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: her not to talk to me until she realizes she

446
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: supported the wrong person and to apologize. I don't need

447
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: to say how many times she tried to call me

448
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 2: in the following hours and all the drama she made

449
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: when I didn't show up for Christmas. But again, I'm

450
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: tired of being the good guy. So that's it for

451
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: the moment. Hope all of you had a nice Christmas

452
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 2: and I wish you a happy and drama free New Years. Yoicks,

453
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: there is another update. But uh, I think you gotta

454
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 2: go no contact with your mom and your sister.

455
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like I don't I don't know how

456
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: we keep getting into this situation where we're like forced

457
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: to have these discussions. It's like, just stop participating.

458
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: Truly, It's like they are clearly just so out of

459
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 2: touch with the world that you can't reason with them.

460
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm wondering how they've acted in other situations,

461
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: you know, if this is behavior that they've exhibited before,

462
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: or if they just really like this X for some reason.

463
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: First, I don't know. Yeah, I would just bring a

464
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: copy of that paternity to bring.

465
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: Bring every copies, keep it like you keep your COVID

466
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: vaccination in your wallet.

467
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: Whenever they bring it up.

468
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: Just take a copy of it and just hand it

469
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: to them, hand it out and bring up another thing.

470
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: Get that second copy out, give it to them.

471
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I guess it's more like a business card. Yeah,

472
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: you should make business cards with the DNA test on it,

473
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: like in small print, and then just hand it out

474
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 2: and be like, here you go.

475
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not that kid's father. Don't say a word.

476
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: Don't even don't say a word, Just hand him the

477
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: business card that says I'm not the father.

478
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm not the father.

479
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm not the father.

480
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't call me. Here is a fake number. Don't

481
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: call me.

482
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the father.

483
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: Not the father. Katie Palladin says, oh, you should start

484
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: carrying around crazy sister repellent. Yeah, and that's what they

485
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: call a restraining order. Update three, Hi to all that

486
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: are still here us. Hello, it's been a while, more

487
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: than a year, and I think now is a good

488
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: time to give an update about everything that happened with

489
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: my life during the last year. Lots of things happened,

490
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: and lots of things have changed. The lawsuit. To be short,

491
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't yeah, I mean it'd be crazy if you didn't. Shocker,

492
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: you add so much evidence that one you weren't the

493
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: father and also they were harassing you.

494
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only way you could have lost is if

495
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: the sister and your ex were the.

496
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: Judge the judge, yeah, or if they like bribed the judge.

497
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: We didn't get into a trial. It all got solved

498
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: in conciliation meetings. My lawyer's strategy was to add all

499
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: the things we could think of, from the intipidation, the defamation,

500
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: to the attempts to put my job at risk, parental fraud, everything.

501
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: And also if you can go to your job and get,

502
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, the proof that they threatened to fire you

503
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: for their behavior, and.

504
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: That's not that you wouldn't win a lawsuit from that,

505
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: because it's win a lawsuit for what did they have

506
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: the right to terminate you for that kind of stuff?

507
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm saying. I'm saying not necessarily like

508
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: winning a lawsuit against the job, but taking that what

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: they said to this hearing and saying like they threatened

510
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: to fire me because of so like this would have

511
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: been you know, I would have had significant financials.

512
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would also find a new job because

513
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to work somewhere that would be like,

514
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: get out.

515
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: These people are slandering you, We're firing you.

516
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh.

517
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: The idea was to scare the crap out of them,

518
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: and if that didn't work, there would be lots of

519
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: charges against my ex and my sister. My sister kept

520
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: calling it a bluff and kept posting all her bs

521
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: on social media, things she now regrets as every single

522
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: word she posted against me came back to bite her.

523
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: But when it was used as proof, my ex took

524
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: back everything she said and was easier for my forgiveness

525
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: after seeing that she would lose a lot, so she

526
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: ended up agreeing to compensate the damages out of court

527
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: and left my sister alone in a battle she started.

528
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: When my sister realized how big things really were, that

529
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: she was alone now and would lose. She freaked out,

530
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: deleted every single post she made and tried to pretend

531
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: she never did what she did. Girl, Digital footprint, Digital

532
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: footprint can't erase that.

533
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: That's actually some of the most unhinged behavior I've seen

534
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: in this yeah, in this post that thinking that you

535
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: could just delete it all that and then act like

536
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: nothing happened.

537
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: Like, what are you talking about? I never did that,

538
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: And they're like, ma'am, we have, we have screenshots of

539
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: all the posts that you made.

540
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: She's like, are you sure about that. I don't think

541
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: that post exists anything.

542
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't exist anymore. And they're like, how did you

543
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: know it existed?

544
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Ever?

545
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: She's like, I meant it never existed.

546
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. The Internet it's a funny place.

547
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: Someone hacked into my account, but at that point we

548
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: had all the backup screenshots and recordings we needed. On

549
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: the last conciliation meeting, she broke down, crying, begging me

550
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: to forgive her and not make her do this. But

551
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 2: she did this to herself. She had multiple chances to stop,

552
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: but she kept pushing and ended up facing the consequences

553
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: of her own stupidity. She had to pay me a

554
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: good amount plus all the legal costs. My mother helped

555
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: her pay, but now she has a considerable debt. As

556
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: my dad demanded, she paid them back over time. For

557
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: a few months, she resented me for what I did,

558
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: but we ended up talking and get back on good terms.

559
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: You're oh your mom, I Our relationship is damaged, but healing.

560
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: She confessed to me that at the beginning, she felt

561
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: she was fighting for a good reason, for a cause

562
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: she believed in to a defend a poor woman in need.

563
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: She believed she was doing the right thing, so she

564
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: was sure she had to win in the end.

565
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Mom or sister, this is mom. But that's just like

566
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Mom was fighting a good bite, you're fighting your own child.

567
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was about to say, that's just an insane

568
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would accept that excuse. That's

569
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: not a good excuse. She she was defending a random woman.

570
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: I think maybe she just wanted a grandchild real bad.

571
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Like she was defending a random

572
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: woman whose child you had no affiliation to at the

573
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: expense of her own son. Yeah, and that's the only

574
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: excuse she.

575
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Has, which I guess the information she had to go

576
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: off of was like from the sister, and the sister

577
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: was talking like it was he was she fathered and

578
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: they break up.

579
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: The DNA this stuff, I don't know.

580
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: Those ideas were supported by her friends, as she said,

581
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: those girls were encouraging her to fight to face me

582
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: and make Bee fulfill my obligations.

583
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it's the sister.

584
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: That she was fighting in the name of other women.

585
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Still a really silly argument, except it's not her son,

586
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: but but there is her brother, still related. She's fighting

587
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: against her own brother.

588
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: You're crusading against it for nothing. You're crusading for nothing.

589
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: She was fighting in the name of other women. It's

590
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: just like so so stupid stuff.

591
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: Even misguided dumb. It's like you should have been fighting

592
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: for that kid. Instead it's for like, yeah, for other women,

593
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: but doing for other women.

594
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: It's for this like this fake, you know, fake idea

595
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: that she has in her head that she's like a

596
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: you know, crusader for for the empowerment of women when

597
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: you're fighting for lies. Those ideas stayed with her until

598
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: things got too real, when she saw there was no

599
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: way she would win, so like she didn't even she

600
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: didn't even care about the truth.

601
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: She just wanted to win, right exactly. This wasn't about

602
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: anything except her winning against her brother. Yeah.

603
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: Then all those girls disappeared, my ex left her alone,

604
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: and all the ones who gave her support wished your

605
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: luck and went away. Yeah, because they saw this was stupid,

606
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: so she had no other choice but to surrender. So

607
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: that's how things ended with them. And for those who suspected, No,

608
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: my sister and my ex weren't in a relationship. I

609
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: don't know where my ex is and I don't care.

610
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: She paid and disappeared, and I hoped to never see

611
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: her again. Some people had told me I went too

612
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: far with her, even some calling me a monster for

613
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 2: ruining a single mother who was already in trouble. And

614
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: some had said I'm not loyal to my family for

615
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 2: taking this far instead of solving it inside the family.

616
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't care anymore. Whoever is saying

617
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: that is a troll. Well, I mean, I feel like

618
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: you did solve it, and it did. It's like you

619
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: because now your sister's like, oh, I have tangible consequences

620
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: for my action, and.

621
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Also she no one, you know, no one has like

622
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: any sort of criminal record, You guys solved it in

623
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 2: the like the mediation or conciliation or whatever your nice

624
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: so it's like no one she had to pay a fine,

625
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: probably at the very you know, at the most my mother.

626
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: For the months the conciliation lasted, my mom went on

627
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: my sister's side multiple times. She tried to convince me

628
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: to stop, from asking me to just let it out,

629
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: to trying to guilt me for everything she could think of.

630
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: She even threatened to disown me so she would not

631
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: see me as a son anymore, and that she would

632
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: separate me from the family. But in the end she

633
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: couldn't and was and still is resentful.

634
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because she's paying she's helping you pay that. Yeah,

635
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: those costs.

636
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: So strange that the mom seems to be defending the sister.

637
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: The sister has now come around and said like that

638
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: was yeah, that was my bad, sorry about that. And

639
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: still the mother is so stubborn that she cannot let

640
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: go this fight that the sister started for no reason.

641
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it seems like there's just this constant expectation

642
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: for op to just let stuff go or let stuff

643
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: happen to him.

644
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: I wonder if that was kind of I just I

645
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: want to know more about their life. Is this the

646
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: behavior that they've kind of been showing the whole time?

647
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Have they been putting all these random responsibilities on Ope,

648
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be responsible for yea. For all those

649
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: months and after everything was over, I kept asking myself

650
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: why she did this, Why she kept treating me like this,

651
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: putting everyone's side before mine. So, after reading multiple people

652
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: saying to do this, I finally did it the DNA test.

653
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: After talking about it with my brother and dad, we

654
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: all agreed it was too rare for my mom to

655
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: act like this, oh, implying maybe mom che did and

656
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: that's why she was like so adamant that OPE be

657
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: like show up as a father for this kid that

658
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: is not his kid.

659
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: Mmm, She's like, your dad did it?

660
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: An interesting layer of the psychological lasagna.

661
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: M And because of everything my mom said and implied,

662
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: my dad had more and more doubts, to the point

663
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: he was sure she did something. After some beers and

664
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: a very hard talk, some tears, and the promise that

665
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: no matter what the results say to me and my

666
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: bro you will always be our dad, we made the

667
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: DNA We took the DNA test. Both of us are

668
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: his sons. Okay, doesn't necessarily mean she didn't cheat, though,

669
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: Well that's true, but at least you guys are his sons.

670
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: All right.

671
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: My dad was so relieved, but then very embarrassed for

672
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: having doubts about his wife's loyalty. He felt very ashamed,

673
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: so he ended up agreeing to apologize to her for

674
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: what we did. No, no, no, she hasn't apologized to

675
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: you for what.

676
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: She did, right, and it makes sense she was acting

677
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: so out of pocket about this. It's like, well, let's

678
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: find out why she's so insistent that I need to

679
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: raise this kid that's not mine.

680
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: At the oh and then no, he says, as I

681
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: started the talk of the DNA test, I asked to

682
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: be the first to talk and apologized to her. No,

683
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: why would you apologize? She literally still has not apologized

684
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: to you. You don't know or anything.

685
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes though, it's about ease of existence.

686
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, well, I feel bad for this and

687
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: she sucks, so I'm going to be the bigger person.

688
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's more like I don't even care what's right.

690
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I just I'm so over this. I don't care anymore.

691
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: Ooh, Josephine says, sister, isn't his probablame didn't do that

692
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: DNA test. That night, all of us gathered at my

693
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: dad's house. We sat around the table and I started

694
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: by recognizing all the fights and tension we had over

695
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: the months and apologizing for it, because after all, she

696
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: is my mother.

697
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, whatever, if that's what I'm saying, whatever, yep, but.

698
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: Her behavior made us all wonder and have a lot

699
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: of doubts. But why she was being like this? So

700
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: I suggested we all go take a DNA test. Right

701
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: after saying that, my mom went livid, and half a

702
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: second later her face went red. She got up from

703
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: the chair, threw herself at me, pulling my hair, scratching

704
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: and hitting me, screaming, why did you do this? I

705
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: had Joe, you had no right, He had no ride.

706
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: And that is that is a woman who has something

707
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: a hide.

708
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you gotta let her do all that stuff,

709
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: because after all, she's your mother.

710
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: She's your mother, right? Are we still rocking with this?

711
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Logic?

712
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: Now?

713
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: That's rightly logic, really logic. My father and brother separated

714
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: her from me, and she immediately started to ask for

715
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: forgiveness from my dad. Yep, she cheated. Whoop yeah, and

716
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: then they're gonna pull a it said they were my kids,

717
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: and she goes, oh, no, I'm sorry.

718
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: Yes me like now, I actually don't know what your honor.

719
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: I have no memory of this, is it?

720
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Sorry?

721
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: I deleted all the posts. My dad was surprised and

722
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: furious when he told her that I was about to

723
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: apologize to her because the results said we were his sons.

724
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: Her face was a mix of fear and desperation. Her

725
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: reaction told us everything. I never saw my dad so angry.

726
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: She confessed that long ago she had an affair for

727
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: a long time until she got pregnant with me. She

728
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: never knew if she got pregnant by my dad or

729
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: by her lover, as they rarely use protection, and she

730
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: multiple times there was a chance that.

731
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: She got pregnant. Did the whole wambam shang a lay?

732
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: All these years, she had the doubt about who my

733
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: real father was, and she pretended to take the secret

734
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: to the grave. But now she exposed, and it makes sense.

735
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: That was the reason she always treated me like this,

736
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: That's why she always put everyone else's word before mine.

737
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: Dad threw her out that night, and in very little time,

738
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: all the family knew about it. We warned them in

739
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: case she tried to say any lies, which she hated

740
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: because she called us saying we had no right to

741
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 2: say anything, that she's our mother and we can't say

742
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: anything against her.

743
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: Well, you just found out actually that you're our mother.

744
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like, uh, you thought you weren't our mother

745
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: though you didn't even know that. And also it's so

746
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: funny that she's calling people and being like trying to

747
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: get out of the story. Probably gonna lie, probably gonna

748
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: say like, oh, they're gonna come to you and say

749
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: that I'm not the like I cheated. No, he cheated.

750
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she'd be like, yeah, there's a paternity test

751
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: that says that they're my kids. Yeah, I made them

752
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: take it.

753
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. The aftermath. So to conclude this craziness, I won

754
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: a good amount of money. My brother is still my

755
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: best friend. My relationship with my sister is damaged but healing,

756
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: and she separated from her toxic and misandric friends. My

757
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: ex is gone, I hope forever. This time. Dad is

758
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: hurt and my mom revealed to be a cheater, but

759
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: they're not divorcing.

760
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Hmm.

761
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's get let's let's get to the bottom

762
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: of that.

763
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: She is back at my dad's home, but he hasn't

764
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: forgiven her and for what he said he never will,

765
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: but he doesn't want to go through divorce or give

766
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: her anything he had worked for.

767
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: Ah, did we not do the prenuptials?

768
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: In his words, they're married, but they're not a couple.

769
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: And she's now trying to earn my dad's forgiveness. And

770
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: of course my mom now openly aids me because to her,

771
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm the cause of all our problems. In her words,

772
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: if you had done what I said and taken charge

773
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: of the kid, none of us would have happened.

774
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: I hope you're happy now day. Hey Mom, I got

775
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: one better for you. If you hadn't a bang to

776
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that other dude, none of us would have happened.

777
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: If you hadn't banged that other dude and then also

778
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: started this whole argument about how I needed to take

779
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: care of the kid. M none of this would happen,

780
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: and probably no one would have found out.

781
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Indeed, in second secondarily, if you hadn't have launched yourself

782
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: across the living room and started attacking me, this also

783
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: never would have happened.

784
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a lot of your fault and that's it.

785
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: Sorry for the text ball. I hope you all had

786
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: a good twenty twenty three and also wish you a

787
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: good twenty twenty four. I will keep working, saving and

788
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: trying to build a life away from this madness. I'll

789
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: probably cut contact with my mom, but I don't care

790
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: at this point anymore. I saw lots of you are

791
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: kind of worried about some things. I said, so for

792
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: all who suggested therapy, yes, already on it. I've been

793
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: seeing a psychologist once a month since I knew about

794
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: my mom's cheating. It's been helping a lot. For the

795
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: ones who are worried, I'm not gonna start hating women

796
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: from now on.

797
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: Aw man, Oh they're.

798
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: Like Hayton women from now on?

799
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Are you?

800
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: I thought b I thought we had you.

801
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm aware not all women are this bad, and I

802
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: know there are lots of amazing and awesome ones, but

803
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: after this, it's hard for me to trust anyone, anyone,

804
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: not just women. He's like, don't worry, I don't hate women,

805
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: I hate everyone.

806
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Well, you had one of the closest figures in your

807
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: life that is like biologically built for you to trust,

808
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: like lie to your live so so you have fair

809
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: by the way, you know what.

810
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: Else is fair to us? Listening to all episodes of

811
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts

812
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: or iHeartRadio and search of Pokey story Time. But there

813
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: is a wee bit left of the story. Do you

814
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: have any final thoughts? Yeah, don't cheat before wait what's

815
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: that song before?

816
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Don't cheat?

817
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: And none of this is lamp of da Yeah, what.

818
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Did you say?

819
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: What's the song before? You cheat? I don't know anyway,

820
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: don't cheat. Don't force your siblings to take care of

821
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: children that aren't theres.

822
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: And like, if you're in the position where they're trying

823
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: to do that and you have a paternity test, don't

824
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: engage with don't engage debates. Just give them a copy

825
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: of the test again and again and again.

826
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: Contact until they can get their head on straight. Yes,

827
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: you don't deserve like all those people out there. If

828
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: you have family members who are just harassing you and

829
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: you've already tried to have a conversation with them and

830
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: tried to tell them facts and they still don't even

831
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: care about the facts, you can't reason with that person.

832
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: And if you can't reason with someone, then communication is impossible.

833
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this. Oh

834
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: before he cheats is that's what the song is? Oh yeah,

835
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: that was my That was my Charlotte's Web mom that

836
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: song before you Cheat, Before you cheats about my dad.

837
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: Me and my brother tried to convince him multiple times

838
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: to divorce my mom, but he made his choice, and

839
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: God knows he will stick to it, even after we

840
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: promise to help him in case he ends up losing

841
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: too much. There's no way to make him change his mind.

842
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: My relationship with my mother is in the worst state ever.

843
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: I consider it lost. After knowing the truth and having therapy,

844
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: lots of things started to make sense about how all

845
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: my life she put everyone else's words before mine, or

846
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: how she always used to put herself on everyone's side

847
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: except mine. Knowing that she always resented me and that

848
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: all the efforts I made in my childhood were a

849
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: waste hurts. I'm not planning on having a relationship with

850
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: her anymore. I mean she literally attacked you. Yeah, the

851
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: legitimately attacked you.

852
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: You were attacked, and she lied to you and.

853
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: And gcheated on your dad. And she also didn't defend

854
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: you when people were making crazy accusations towards you.

855
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be low contact at the very least I

856
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: would be. I think this is a.

857
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: Very very fair no contact here. Yeah, man, But that

858
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: is the end of that story.

859
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to this episode,

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00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,800
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Speaker 1: but not the.

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Speaker 2: End of this episode. I don't think my.

863
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Girlfriend keeps giving me selfish gifts, so I got rid

864
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: of them. Maybe you should keep them. What is a

865
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: selfish gift?

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00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Uh. March twenty two, twenty twenty three throwaway. So me

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Speaker 1: twenty eight male and my girlfriend thirty female have been

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Speaker 1: together for eight years and we've been living together for

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Speaker 1: four girlfriend has always been the art d type and

871
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: always has some personal project going, but she has the

872
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: tendency to get lost in her own world. By the way,

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Speaker 2: What's a pencil length like.

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880
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: A pencil lengthener? Does it add back some shaving?

881
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: It just stretches out the pencil. Is it for a

882
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: pencil or for something else?

883
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

884
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, sure, sure sure yeah yeah mm mmmmm.

885
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't use pencils. And the lengthener in question didn't

886
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: even fit your typical number two pencil. It was purely

887
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: for colored pencils, and I don't color. When she asked

888
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: me if I liked it, I just quietly walked outside

889
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: our home and tossed it in the trash.

890
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Why you're obviously the a hole.

891
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: You are on one, sir. She was understandably upset and

892
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: called me an a hole for doing that, claiming that

893
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I could have.

894
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: At least tried it.

895
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, which is even no beyond that it's

896
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: you could return it. You just don't go silently throw

897
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: it in the trash outside.

898
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: You said, hey, like, I'm not gonna use this, Like,

899
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: why don't we return it?

900
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: You go, what is this?

901
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: That's an insane move?

902
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: Isn't a colored pencil sharpener a thing for you?

903
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

904
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing she has been doing things like this.

905
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Ever since we started living together, she's been gifting me

906
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: things that she likes and ultimately ends up using them.

907
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: For example, last year, she got a packet of Sailor

908
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: Moon stickers. I don't watch Sailor Moon, and she ended

909
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: up using them.

910
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: All, Okay, she's giving to yourself, but she feels like

911
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: she can't buy her own things because then it's like, oh,

912
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: you know, I'm wasting money because I'm buying myself. And

913
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: so she's getting around this loophole and come up, what

914
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: do you mean I'm I'm inferencing.

915
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I.

916
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: Ever thought of it.

917
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: If she if she feels like she can't buy herself stuff,

918
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: then that does make sense. But it's also i'd be.

919
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Like, in her mind, she's like, I can't buy things

920
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 2: for myself because that's wasteful. So I'm gonna buy things

921
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: for my man, and then if he doesn't like them,

922
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: then I get.

923
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: Just like, don't throw them directly in the trash.

924
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: I have a conversation like that's a conversation.

925
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: That's oh whoah, so literally a thing just for people

926
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: using small pencils, Like.

927
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: But that wait, that's genius though.

928
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like getting somebody who likes it's like

929
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: for sketch artists and like stuff like that, but that's

930
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: so cool.

931
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I understand that it's for like artists,

932
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: but like that's pretty soil.

933
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, Op is not an artist. Yeah,

934
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: It's like if you got to give for someone and

935
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: you're like, I got you a DJ turntable and they're like,

936
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I love that. Don't even like to do I would

937
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: love that. I'm like a bike rider guy, I.

938
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Don't no idea how to do it? Love to learn.

939
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: You go, oh, that's crazy because I'm a DJ, So

940
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just take take the turntable.

941
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 3: She also gifted me a jewelry box one time.

942
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't wear jewelry, so guess who's been using it

943
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: all this time? First world problems at its finest, so

944
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: at least you recognize that. So it's been a few

945
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: days and she's still upset and has even got both

946
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: of our parents to beerrate me for trashing the gift.

947
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: She even admitted she knew I would hate it and

948
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: was planning on using it after I calmed down in

949
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: a few days, a detail that she did share with

950
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: others but I'm still getting a name called.

951
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Am I really the A hole? Yeah, buddy, yeah you

952
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: are the A hole?

953
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: But like you just have to have a conversation with

954
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: her and say, hey, it's okay if you want to

955
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: buy yourself these things, but stop saying that they're for me,

956
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: because they're not.

957
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah I would know they're not. Just say stop buying

958
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: me gifts.

959
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't buy me gifts. They're not for me. Yeah,

960
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: you know I don't like this stuff. You know that

961
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: you do, and that's okay.

962
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: If you want something, to get it, And if you

963
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: do want to buy me a gift, let's just go together,

964
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: because it seems like every time you buy me a gift,

965
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: you forget you're buying something for me.

966
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like have that conversation because what she's doing is annoying,

967
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: but like the reaction to it rather than having the conversation.

968
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 3: Is even worse.

969
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: You you walking outside and throwing it in the trash,

970
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: like at right after she gave it to you, is

971
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: like so vibe like viciously disrespectful that it's yeah, there's

972
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: no coming back you or then a hole in that situation.

973
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely right.

974
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: There's an edit nearly every comment says, we need to

975
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: talk about this. Yeah. The thing is we already have

976
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: and more than once she admitted she does this because

977
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: she wants something, but decides to gift it to me

978
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: to say, I tried. I asked if I gave her

979
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: a wish list, would that help? And she said that

980
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: she would never look at it. End. Well, she didn't

981
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: when I made and sent one to her, So why

982
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: did you do that? She said? No? But but why

983
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: is she saying nothing?

984
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

985
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: What is going on?

986
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: Everyone sucks here?

987
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: This is crazy.

988
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: Everyone sucks here?

989
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: Is she buying this stuff with her your money or

990
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: her money?

991
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going on.

992
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Okay. She, on the other hand, does have a wish list,

993
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: which I do get her stuff from, and some of

994
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: that stuff is actually expensive.

995
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: It seems like she's just very selfish in general.

996
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: So she understands how wish lists work. Yeah for her, Yeah,

997
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: but not for you.

998
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Well, she doesn't care about actually, And my question is

999
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: does she also do this on your birthday and on

1000
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: your you know, on holidays too? Because very not. Okay,

1001
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: if she's doing it, then as well.

1002
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: If we're if we're look, everyone should walk away from this. Yeah,

1003
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: all right, If you're already at the point in the relationship.

1004
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: She gives you something and you walk out and trash it. Yeah,

1005
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: they're not saying a word. It's probably over.

1006
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're actually conversation.

1007
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: But the the the the static electricity I feel in

1008
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: my gut thinking about pulling that on someone I was dating.

1009
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's insane. Yeah, that's crazy.

1010
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: It's like, obviously she's not behaving well. But to pull

1011
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 2: out on some of your dating is it's not healthy? Yeah, clearly, Cirly,

1012
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: your relationship is you know, not in a good place.

1013
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: If this is the reaction that you're taking.

1014
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Well, we have some relevant comments here. Let's see what

1015
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: the nice people on the internet have to say. A commenter,

1016
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: everyone sucks here. Walking out and trashing it like a

1017
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: drama queen makes you an a hole. She's also a

1018
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: butt for giving you stuff she knows you won't use.

1019
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: You're meant to talk about your feelings and about your expectations,

1020
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: not act like you acted here. Ope, and I bet

1021
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: you a million dollars. Oh, he's going to bring up

1022
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: the fact that, well, I did try to talk about it.

1023
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: Before, which does not give you an excuse to act

1024
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: that way.

1025
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: Though, Nope, not. Opie says, I wouldn't say I'm a

1026
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: drama queen.

1027
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay, but didn't say I'm a drama queen.

1028
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm more like a drama king. I didn't yell or

1029
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: scream or anything. I just had a disappointed look on

1030
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: my face, and she just pieced together what I had done.

1031
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: I literally didn't say anything during the ordeal.

1032
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: That's dramatic. That's like definition dramatic.

1033
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: Quite possibly the most dramatic thing you could have done.

1034
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just silently walking towards the trash can. That's dramatic.

1035
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: Jeezu wheeze commenter. Everyone sucks here. But you should have

1036
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: directly talked to her about this way beforehand. If it's

1037
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: something you say she does constantly, Oh, he says, actually

1038
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: I have. We've had many talks about this. She does

1039
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: this on purpose because she wants a certain something and

1040
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: decides to gift it to me so she can say

1041
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: that she tried. I offered to give her a wish list,

1042
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: but she literally said she would never look at it,

1043
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: and she did indeed not look at it.

1044
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: Then if it is not working.

1045
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: Break up with her, or or if it's like if

1046
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: this is like the one part of your relationship. That's

1047
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: bad and everything else is good. Just stop giving each

1048
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: other gifts.

1049
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't give me gifts anymore.

1050
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: It's not working. Yeah, if you want.

1051
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: To know, there are there are avenues that you can

1052
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: take here. If you have tried communicating and it's not working,

1053
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: this is not the avenue that you took. Is the

1054
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: bad one.

1055
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Stop giving gifts. Everyone sucks here.

1056
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: I have to ask do you ever get her gifts?

1057
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1058
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: Oh, he says, yes, I do. Actually, actually I get

1059
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: her the best gifts on Earth. I actually go over

1060
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: the top with her gifts. If they actually are saying that. Okay,

1061
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: she wanted a Nintendo switch. I got her switch and

1062
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: she legit played it until she got carpal tunnel. She

1063
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: still uses the cast once in a while. Okay, commenter,

1064
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: do you tell her about anything you may like or

1065
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: does she have to figure it out?

1066
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: And we already know that he did.

1067
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: I sent her a wish list Okay. Verdict not enough info,

1068
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: but leaning not the a hole.

1069
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: I just like I disagree. Yeah, I think everyone sucks here.

1070
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: I think that, like a lot of people in the

1071
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: chat are saying, like it's been eight years of this,

1072
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, then break up with her. Like,

1073
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: if it's been eight years of this and nothing's changed,

1074
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: then leave the relationship. You've had the conversations, you've tried

1075
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: to change it, you're upset, you know, go leave.

1076
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: I just wonder what the financial situations look like. Yeah,

1077
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: is these are these gifts being are Is it your

1078
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: money that she's spending? M like does she? I don't know.

1079
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: This is just so weird. This is just so weird,

1080
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: and it's so weird for the problem to have lasted

1081
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: eight years.

1082
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: Stop it, yes, stop.

1083
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: It, Sas says, I for an eye. Mentality never works.

1084
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say this relationship is done.

1085
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: I think that's my Yeah, I mean, op, he's trying

1086
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: to get back at her.

1087
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: Just stop it. I don't even know, Hannah says. If

1088
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: it's just the gifts, I get not breaking up, but

1089
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: it is just so weird. Yeah, it's really weird. So

1090
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: just cut this weirdness out of your relationship and see

1091
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: if it were you.

1092
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: Have to find a different solve because you being petty

1093
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: isn't healthy.

1094
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know. Yeah, that's not.

1095
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: It's not a good relationship. If you're being petty, regardless

1096
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: of whether or not you are allowed to, like it's

1097
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: a reaction that deserves pettiness or something. It's like, if

1098
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: you're being petty, your relationship is unhealthy.

1099
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: To be honest, the way this is reading, I don't

1100
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: even know if Opie did it to be petty, And

1101
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: that's asking like, am I the a whole?

1102
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: I think it's like I'm mostly referring to so much

1103
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: comments we're saying like, oh, that's petty here.

1104
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1105
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: Opie's just like I'm just gonna go get this out

1106
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: of the way.

1107
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna do this later.

1108
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm just gonna get this.

1109
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: Out of the way. Or maybe it was like a, well,

1110
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I know you just want to use this, so instead

1111
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it away so you can't use it.

1112
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah Annah, Hannah, Oh wait no, uh Sez says maybe

1113
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: he sucks at giving gifts. We already know that he's

1114
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: given her a gift that she really likes because the switch.

1115
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, just start buying her like pencil erasers and

1116
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: TUTSI pops, TUTSI pops. All right, there's an update. March thirtieth,

1117
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, many commenters have said that my girlfriend

1118
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: is a self absorbed person or has some kind of

1119
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: personality disorder. I probably should have mentioned this before, but

1120
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: she has ADHD, which she is medicated for, so she

1121
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: has always been pretty scatterbrained.

1122
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't think this is that's at all an excuse

1123
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: for any of her behavior, though. Yeah, it gave her

1124
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: a list of things that you wanted and she was like, no,

1125
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read that.

1126
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like a different that's not that doesn't have

1127
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: anything to do yeah with it. However, it did get

1128
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: noticeably worse when we moved in together, such as blowing

1129
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: plans because she either completely forgot or forgot the part

1130
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: where we agreed to them, or completely forgetting to do

1131
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: any errands or chores because she's just so invested in something,

1132
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: usually an art project. There was one comment that resonated

1133
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: with me that said, I must have been conditioned to

1134
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: accept this kind of behavior. That is accurate. My parents

1135
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: always instilled in me to be grateful and happy for

1136
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: getting anything at all, because they got nothing when they

1137
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: were younger. If I got if I got a sock

1138
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: as a gift, I was expected to dance like a

1139
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: happy prospector, if this is all, if this at all

1140
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: explains my tolerance slash doormat behavior, and here's an update.

1141
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Despite using a throwaway, my girlfriends still found the post.

1142
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: She was very miffed by the responses and tried to

1143
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: vent to her friends, but they weren't on her side, because.

1144
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: Who would be would be on your side?

1145
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: She then decided to show the post to her and

1146
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: my siblings, to her and my siblings to.

1147
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: All their both of their siblings.

1148
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: They wanted to know if it was true, and when confirmed,

1149
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: they all yelled at her and got our respective parents

1150
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: to calm down and stop talking about it. She came

1151
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: to me over the weekend and after talking about it

1152
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: since then we kind of worked over several things, she

1153
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: recognized that she really did screw up, and as an apology,

1154
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: she gave me this cool dragon diffuser I've been wanting

1155
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: for a whileang and a box of all the stuff

1156
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: I was gifted, telling me I may do whatever I

1157
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: please with them. She's also open to not receiving gifts

1158
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: for the next couple of special occasions, which I will

1159
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: be doing.

1160
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: Folks, just stop it, stop and stop it.

1161
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean frustrating that it took everyone around you in

1162
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: your life telling her that she's wrong for her to

1163
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: realize that she was wrong.

1164
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Right, No more gift giving gifts together now, yeah, don't

1165
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: do it separately? No, no, no, no?

1166
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: How long is this gonna last?

1167
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: You know?

1168
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: Is she gonna go back to? Hopefully not?

1169
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 3: If you guys keep giving gifts, that's the only way.

1170
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Stop giving other gifts.

1171
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm here, I'm right there. So when it

1172
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: came down to her selfish gift giving, apparently what she

1173
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: meant by I tried was her forgetting about these occasions

1174
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: until the last minute and not wanting to admit it.

1175
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: Oo, but you still got gifts that you wanted. But

1176
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. That's a terrible excuse.

1177
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: There is no excuse for having been brought a gift list, yeah,

1178
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: and a literal list of these are things you could

1179
00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: get me.

1180
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: So like, this is a terrible excuse because she still

1181
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: got something right.

1182
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: There's no excuse here, which is why this is frustrating

1183
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: me so much.

1184
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Just cut this surgically removed this aspect of y'all's relationship

1185
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: from your lives, Like.

1186
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: I forgot the date. Blah blah blah, blah blah. So

1187
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: totally could be true case you say, like, hey, I

1188
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: you know, I accidentally order this late. It's coming, but

1189
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: I got you what you wanted. You know, it doesn't

1190
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: have to be on the day of.

1191
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: The more words we're speaking about this, the more I

1192
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: if I'm op, I'm like, well, now I can't get

1193
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: over it because now you're telling me you just don't

1194
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: understand how gifts work, which is a lie. It cannot

1195
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: be true. Yeah, So she hastily orders them off of

1196
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Amazon from whatever shows up first on her homepage and

1197
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 1: just hopes I like them enough to not say anything

1198
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: negatively and uses them when I won't.

1199
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 3: Wow, that is if that's actually where we're at.

1200
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sorry she admitted that. Well, I mean, look,

1201
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: she admitted to putting absolutely no thought or care into

1202
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: any of the gifts that she gives.

1203
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: You. There is a level of like ADHD where like

1204
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: you can become so inattentive and so like not present

1205
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: in like your day to day that that could happen. No,

1206
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: but that's also like you're talking a level that would

1207
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: qualify you like you you can't have a job, like

1208
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: you can't like you're essentially unable to take care of

1209
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: yourself or anyone.

1210
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: It's not that I'm shocked that she's forgetting about these

1211
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: things and having to order things last minute. I am

1212
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 2: shocked that she goes on Amazon and just picks the first.

1213
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: Like right, It's like, you're right there. It takes two

1214
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: extra minutes.

1215
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Extra minutes to find something that he likes.

1216
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: So like, that's a lie, that is what I'm implying. Yeah,

1217
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: so either your ADHD is so bad you need like

1218
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: permanent care or you're lying.

1219
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: But like yeah, and my point is like even if

1220
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: she has ADHD that bad, that wouldn't affect the buying process.

1221
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if she could have bought like two more minutes,

1222
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: just two more minutes, dude, two minutes.

1223
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: She just buys the first thing that she sees, you know.

1224
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: It'll be great. Is if you had some kind of

1225
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: list of things you can look for exactly like she does.

1226
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people are saying like, oh, you

1227
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: know sometimes like I have ADHD, and like I have

1228
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: trouble by the same I'm I have trouble buying gifts

1229
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: for people too, But like she.

1230
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Has a list, and also these things.

1231
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: Can be late.

1232
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: Okay, we got in we just have to be on time,

1233
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: just get what you want.

1234
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: We got a little more context and then a sentence

1235
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: she refused to look at my wish list because gifts

1236
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: should be a surprise and this. But when I brought

1237
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: up her list, she had no answer exactly. She just

1238
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: doesn't make it. The more she's talking, the more like

1239
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: if they had just been like, all right, let's just

1240
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: never give each other gifts without talking about it and

1241
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: move on and we never talk about this again.

1242
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: I think it works.

1243
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point, I'm like, I have to leave

1244
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: you off principle now because you said so much nonsense.

1245
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: No, she's selfish, and she's trying to justify it by saying, oh,

1246
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: gifts should be a surprise. Oh, I like, I forgot

1247
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 2: about it because my ADHD and I like, no, she'd

1248
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: put no effort in finding something that you want, even

1249
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: though she had a list of the things.

1250
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: That you want. It's not even the gifts anymore. It's

1251
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: the word vomit she has spewed. Is now gonna make

1252
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: me leave? So she said she'll look at my wish

1253
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: list from now on. I don't think this is a

1254
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: deal breaker, but it does need to end well. Most

1255
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: of you were right, there were other issues. We've agreed

1256
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: to therapy, both both single and couples, which she will

1257
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: pay for. This may not be what you were expecting,

1258
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: but I think it's a good start, and there's another

1259
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: update about a moment later.

1260
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: Let's go right into it.

1261
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: So me and my girlfriend of eight years split up

1262
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: about two weeks ago.

1263
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: Talking the Lord WHOA, we.

1264
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Were having issues and decided to go to therapy to

1265
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: work it out. After the very first session, I realized

1266
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: that I do not want to work on this relationship anymore.

1267
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: It was just too much trouble then it was worth

1268
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: so I broke up with her. Lots of crying on

1269
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: her end, but she seemed to accept it. She's already

1270
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: moved out of our house and agreed that I may

1271
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: keep it since I have no family in our state.

1272
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: Things haven't exactly been well since then. Her parents, who

1273
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: have been divorced for a decade now, have turned to

1274
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: one to eighty and are begging me to take her back.

1275
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Her dad even tried to bribe me to take her back. Well,

1276
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I think maybe you can take that bribe and just

1277
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: not take her.

1278
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: Back, right They're like, oh, sorry, I tried.

1279
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: You say sorry, I thought this was a gift.

1280
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: M want me to keep it.

1281
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I've refused and blocked them, but they still find ways

1282
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: to circumvent that. My own parents have also done a

1283
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: one eighty and are now supportive, but I don't want

1284
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: to talk to them. As for me, well, I've been

1285
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: drinking a little bit more. People always say to work

1286
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: on yourself after a relationship, like going to the gym

1287
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: or getting a new hobby, but I'm just not feeling it.

1288
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: All I want to do now is get a little

1289
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: drinking poo in me.

1290
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: That's bad, that in the bud immediately. Yeah, this is

1291
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: leading into like depression territory. This is you know, rely

1292
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: on your support system, go to therapy therapy. Yeah, they

1293
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: don't want to go down that path.

1294
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Co workers and even my boss noticed my sluggish behavior,

1295
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: but they shrugged it off as me working too hard.

1296
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: My boss even offered some time off, completely off the record.

1297
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I should accept since I'm probably just

1298
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna drink it away.

1299
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: Oh God, any advice on how the best move forwardould

1300
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: be very appreciated.

1301
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: Hey, maybe find some help for that, how it gets

1302
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: resources for not drinking?

1303
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: And also, I mean I don't know if this is

1304
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: necessarily the advice that you know professionals would give, but

1305
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I also don't know if quitting your

1306
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: job would help, because right now that gives you like

1307
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: a purpose.

1308
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: Uh. And no, they're not saying to quit.

1309
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: No, Ope was saying the take take some time off.

1310
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that would that's what the boss said. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the boss was like, do you want some time off?

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Speaker 2: And OP literally said, I don't think I should. I

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that you should take time off because

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: like you need, like you need something that takes you,

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Speaker 2: you know, pulls you.

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Speaker 3: Out of your We've got a third update.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope that it is an update where they

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Speaker 1: stop drinking. Update number three. I can't believe I'm still

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Speaker 1: using this throwaway, but yeah. I left my home today

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Speaker 1: seeing a bunch of pack at my doorstep. Didn't have

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Speaker 1: time to open them, so I tossed them inside and

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Speaker 1: only opened them maybe an hour ago, and they were

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Speaker 1: all stuff from my wish list. At first, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know who sent them, but then I checked a personal

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Speaker 1: email I don't normally use and realized it was all

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Speaker 1: from my ex. And by the way, you can listen

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Speaker 1: to full episodes with stories just like this on Spotify

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Speaker 1: and Apple Podcasts and iHeartRadio and wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Just search Okay, storytime, do it, and then you've got

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Speaker 1: the proverbial.

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Speaker 2: Fun in your hand.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna try to use a different one, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing else, but she took it. The email said happy anniversary. Ope,

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Speaker 1: it says Google the translation of that actual word, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say because I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it means. I'm guessing she bought these in an attempt

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Speaker 1: to get me back. It won't work. I didn't break

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Speaker 1: up with her because of a present. I broke up

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00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: with her because our relationship was very one sided and

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Speaker 1: she was so selfish. But you know what, I'm keeping

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Speaker 1: them now I can be selfish. Yeah, And it's like again,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what are we talking about here? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: think you think I'm gonna come back because of the gifts,

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Speaker 1: Like how shallow.

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Speaker 2: Never in eight years bought me, and not only because

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01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: we broke up. You're buying me them.

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Speaker 1: It's like the definition of a transactional relationship. Nope, we

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Speaker 1: have some comments here to finish it off. Marumorrow says,

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Speaker 1: I've been following you since your Reddit post and that

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Speaker 1: this is an amazing update. Also, I'd like to thank

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: you as well. It's thanks to your post I finally

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Speaker 1: realized that my ex was and is a selfish, disrespectful ahole.

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Speaker 1: He also did similar things to your ex. His birthday.

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01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I saved up four months and researched the things he

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: currently liked, needed, et cetera. I would scheme to hide

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Speaker 1: and make it exciting for him, But come my birthday,

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01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: he told me my gift hadn't arrived, and while we

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01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: were having dinner, went to the nearby five dollars shop

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Speaker 1: and got me some random gift. I felt so so

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Speaker 1: guilty for not liking it, and I kept chanting, it's

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01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: the thought that counts. Yeah whatever. Op replies, thank you

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Speaker 1: for sharing. I'm sorry that your ex was a selfish ahole.

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Speaker 1: You really similarly. I started to pick up on my

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: ex's selfishness when she gifted me a similar gift. She

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Speaker 1: gave me a yellow Star Wars shirt, even though I'm

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: not a fan of Star Wars and yellow is her

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: favorite color, not mine. I'm glad that you picked up

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Speaker 1: on it and seemingly faster than I did with my

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Speaker 1: former partner. Hey's John Og host. We're gonna get back

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Speaker 1: to the stories, but a quick free minute break of

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Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, best decision was leaving her and get therapy. Therapy.

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Speaker 3: Continue to go to therapy and keep your drinking under control.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very precarious.

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't let that snowball for years. That's not a

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Speaker 1: thing you want to have to deal with.

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Speaker 2: No, but that's the end of this episode. That is

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Speaker 2: so if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 3: We love you and see you more.