1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: here at Garrett Downing, and OTAs are beginning for the Ravens. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: This is an exciting time of the year where it 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: looks a little bit more like practice out there and 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: we see some of these veterans in action and see 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: the rookies playing alongside those veterans. So an exciting time. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Garrett and I are going to break down which players 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: these OTAs really matter for. Most of course, it matters 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: for everybody, but certain guys you're going to really keep 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: an eye on because they have some growth to do 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: or something to kind of show coaches during these OTAs. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: I think OTAs they're important from a just to set 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: the table here for what they are and what they aren't. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: These are not padded practices, but they at least put 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: the helmets on. This is a time where it looks 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: more like football. Up until this point, there has been 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: some on field work, but it's not. It doesn't really 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: feel like a normal practice. If you were just watching, 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like a normal football practice. 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: But OTAs do. 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: They feel like a normal practice. They're out there in 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: uniforms and again not padded, not full contact practices, but 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: it's a big step in the direction towards of what 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: football looks like. And again this is all still voluntary, 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: so I don't know exactly who's going to be here. 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: Typically speaking, there's a RAMS have had good participation amongst 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: veterans really throughout the entire process, but in past years 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: they've had good representation with a majority of guys, and. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: Usually they kind of the big name veterans kind of 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: roll through. 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes they will they won't come to every week of OTAs, 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: but they'll come for one or two and they kind 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: of rotate. I mean honestly, you know, of course you 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: like guys to be here, but you also want to 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 4: For some of these younger players. 38 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of it, and for you know, Mark 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Andrews for example, Like does Mark Andrews need the reps 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: and OTAs? You know some of these like more veteran guys. 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: You're almost like, you know what, it's okay, we want 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: to get some of these young guys. Get to look 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: at them. 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Derrick Henry exactly precisely right, It's like we know what, 45 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: we know what he can do. So but but I 46 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: do think they are valuable from a from the standpoint 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: of like timing and feel, especially with new new targets 48 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 3: for the passing. 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: Game, especially some of the offensive stuff. 50 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then on the defensive side, where 51 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: you have some some kind of young players, especially like 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Malachi Starks as an example, He's one of the guys 53 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: that I'll point to, Like you have the young guys 54 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: who could be stepping into some big time roles, it's 55 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: really important. So for me, like I think the conversation 56 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: starts from an offensive standpoint on just Lamar and and 57 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: again this is voluntary, so what we'll see. But I 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: think that, like you're it's always exciting to see Lamar 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: Jackson passing game on the field. That's all you're always 60 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: looking to do. He's whenever you're talking about the ravens, 61 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: Lamar is the first guy that you're gonna bring up. 62 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, though I would say of all years, it's not 63 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit less important for Lamar 64 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: this year. I mean, just because his targets are really 65 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: the same I mean DeAndre Hopkins, right, so he'll definitely 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: want time to build that rapport with with the d 67 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: hop But will de hop be here. I Mean, he's 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: one of those veterans who it's like I know what 69 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm I know how to play football, so we don't know. 70 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: So for the most part, like Lamar has a feel. 71 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, he's now in year three of Todd Monkins offense, 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: so he certainly knows the offense like the back of 73 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: his hands. So I honestly, at quarterback, I look more 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: at Cooper. 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: Rush, you know. 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens signed him this offseason, and it's 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: his first time really in a practice with Todd munkin 78 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: and and kind of acclimating himself to this offense. 79 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, with with the targets, the Hopkins piece, Like, it'll 80 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: be fun. Whether it happens in OTAs are in mini camp, 81 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: it'll be fun to see Lamar Jackson throw on his 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: first passes to deirs like that. That's gonna be fun whenever. 83 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: Whenever that does happen. I'll be excited to see him. 84 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm excited that we'll put that highlight out. Yeah, you 85 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: know that highlight's gonna hit Twitter, Like that's gonna that's going. 86 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: To happen the slow mo. Yeah, and I'm excited. 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: To see like I am excited to see there Hopkins. Like, 88 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: this is a guy who's been a stud for decade 89 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: plus in the NFL. 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: You've been wanting to see him in a Ravens uniform 91 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: for a long time. 92 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this has been some of the people have 93 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: been thinking about, and so now you're going to get 94 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: a chance to see that. I'm fired up to see 95 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: that again. Whether that's OTA's or mini camp, training camp, 96 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: whatever it is, but he's It's It's kind of crazy 97 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: because DeAndre Hopkins has a Hall of Fame resume. 98 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: But like I almost I almost feel like that. 99 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: Addition is kind of forgotten about. Like in the conversation 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: around the team and this offense, you're like, oh, yeah, 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: they have DeAndre Hopkins now in the mix too. I 102 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: don't think that we're spending enough time talking about just 103 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: how significant that could be. 104 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, it's kind of flirting under the 105 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: radar just because you know his age and where he's 106 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: at in his career. But I think that the Ravens 107 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: believe and I believe that he can be a very 108 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: clutched and productive player in this offense. I don't think 109 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, in this offense, he's probably not 110 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: going to be a thousand yard guy. I hope he is, 111 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: but with so many mouths defeat in this offense, it's 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: probably unlikely. 113 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 4: But I think he's gonna make some big. 114 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Plays and you know, make lunch clutch clutch moments and 115 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: make some of those plays. And now those the plays 116 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: don't happen OTAs you don't have clutch ota catches, But 117 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: that's just where you get excited for the potential exactly. 118 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Like honestly, when when he steps on the field and 119 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: like seeing him elevate and seeing him the way he moves, 120 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: and there's probably gonna be us reporters are gonna be 121 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: like he's still he's still got it, you know what 122 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Like that's what I expect. 123 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: Something that's always sharping with Deanta Hopkins is like his 124 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: body control and his total ability around the sidelines, like 125 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: is as good as anybody in the NFL. 126 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: And seeing him mentor some of these younger guys, that's 127 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: These offseason practices are a time when veterans come in 128 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: and and kind of establish themselves in their role, and 129 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: he's certainly going to have a leadership role with these 130 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: younger wide receivers around him. 131 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: The other guy at the passing end that I'll point 132 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: to that I'm kind of curious to see as well, 133 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: big name guys a Flowers, because we haven't seen him 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 3: on the field of course since the end of last year. 135 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: So just how's he moving. We've seen the videos of 136 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: him and Lamar Jackson throwing last week. They were throwing 137 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: together like down in Florida, and so they're getting some 138 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: time before OTAs began, and so. 139 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: It's good to see that. 140 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: But I'll be again, we haven't he spent He finished 141 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: last season injured and so certainly hope that's all behind him. 142 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: John Harbot did say this offseason that he didn't need 143 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: to have surgery or anything on that knee injury. But 144 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: of course you just want to see him moving and 145 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: showing off that agility that he has. 146 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: Look, you know me, I'm a football grinder. Okay, you 147 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: know where I'm looking trenches? 148 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: Okay, you see you. 149 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: You're like, I want to watch. 150 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: Save Flowers d hot, I say, Flowers moves. 151 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: No, see, I've seen that. That's me. 152 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: I'm a grinder. 153 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: You say that though, but like you also forget, as 154 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: I said at the outset here, these guys aren't pads. 155 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: It's not full context, so you can't really determine. You're like, 156 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: you're a bit I want to see wo's gonna win 157 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: the left guard job. No, that is determined in training, 158 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: cab that is not determined in ota. Is this about 159 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: timing in the passing game, not the trench work, But 160 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 3: go ahead and make your case. 161 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean you're not wrong, but I still like, you know, 162 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the spots on offense are really left guard is the 163 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: spot Andrew Voreh he's coming back, you know, the addition 164 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: of Joe Noteboom, seeing him moving around out there for 165 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: the first time, you know, seeing even some of these 166 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: these rookies like a Carson Vincent, you know, and his progress. 167 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Not that I expect him to have a big twenty 168 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: twenty five role, if any role at all, really, but 169 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, seeing him start to establish himself. Like that's 170 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: more the Jonte Wester. 171 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: Like Jont Wester is a guy you can't you can't 172 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: talk about the passing gamester I get to claim Wester 173 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: that says a returner, okay, returning okay, okay, Like some 174 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: of those guys I think will be fun and honestly offensively. 175 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: The starting job that is up for grabs. 176 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: The most, even though I think he's got a pretty 177 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: good handle on it, is left guard and Andrew Vorhei's 178 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: So that's kind of where my eyes go. 179 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: Look, that is going to be a position to watch 180 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: out training camp. But to be honest, I just I 181 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: think that that's. 182 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you can't glean a lot, yeah. 183 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: At this point, And what it does give you a 184 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: sense of is just alignment and like who they're thinking 185 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: about in the rotation and who's trying at certain spots. 186 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Like I would have liked to have seen it. Unfortunately 187 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Amrie Jones is dealing with that shoulder kind of labor injury, 188 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: but it would have been interesting to see where he's 189 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: at right guards. He had tackle right exactly. I think 190 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: that that's Garrett Dellinger. Is he getting some snaps at center? 191 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 192 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean he and Nick Samak that's kind of a 193 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: competition this summer. So is he getting some work there? 194 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: Like last year Ben Cleveland he was, He's kind of 195 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: moved around and we thought, oh he could end up 196 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: being a starting, starting left guard, and starting left was 197 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: playing left guard right and so like and even like 198 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: he was a guy that of course came into a tackle, 199 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: then he transitions to guard, so you start to see 200 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: that transition in these OCA practices. So like, I think 201 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: that that's I think alignment is interesting to look at 202 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: and it gives you a perspective of how they're thinking 203 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: about it going into training camp. But as we're saying, 204 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: the battles and the tranchisers are not decided at this stage. 205 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. 206 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: We brought up special teams with Leschontay Wester another guy. 207 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Certainly a lot of eyes are going to be on 208 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: his kicker, Tyler Loop, the rookie, and it's really his 209 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: with the release of Justin Tucker. 210 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: All right, you're in the spotlight. 211 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: It's your turn, Like this is kind of your first 212 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: impression in front of the majority of the team to 213 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: show what you have and so here we go. 214 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I go back. 215 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: I remember when in twenty twelve when Billy Kendiff and 216 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: Justin Tucker had a battle to make the team coming 217 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: throughout training camp, and all that battle lasted all the 218 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: way up until pretty much the end of the preseason. 219 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: But those two guys, you know, it was like a 220 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: clear competition where everybody was watching them, and the Raves 221 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: really put the pressure on the rookie Tucker at that point, 222 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: just in terms of some high pressure kicks from a 223 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: practice standpoint, a lot of guys watching them hardboll stander 224 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 3: behind him, you know, at that point Tucker were and 225 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: kind of we're hearing from veterans like Terrell Suggs who 226 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: were giving. 227 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Him a hard time. 228 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: And so like you, I think the Ravens do from 229 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: a kicking standpoint, try to simulate some high pressure moments 230 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: and practice as much as you can. And like that 231 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 3: can again, that can come from veterans standing right behind 232 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: you barking at you and like putting the pressure on yep, 233 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: And how do you handle that? How do you handle that? 234 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: Yep? 235 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: That'll be I think we probably will see some of 236 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: that in O TAS and certainly in training camp. But 237 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: I think that starts now. 238 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: Well, when the Ravens signed another rookie kicker, undrafted kicker 239 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: John Hoyland, who uh kicked at Wyoming, so there will 240 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: be some competition there during OTA's it starts now, yeah, 241 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: And really it's kind of like, is there the possibility 242 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: that the Ravens could sign a veteran kicker at some point? 243 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: That will in part be decided by how these guys 244 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: kick in OTAs, Yeah, do they need do they feel 245 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the need at the end of OTA's to say we 246 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: need to get a little more competition here? 247 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: M M yeah. 248 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: I think that that what you described as definitely something 249 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: that happens pretty much every spot on the roster, but 250 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: like there's a few that you feel like, all right, 251 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: this is going to be a time where we just 252 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: decide do we need to bring in extra help? 253 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Right, there's always there's always turnover on every NFL roster, 254 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and part of that is you have young guys who 255 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: haven't had a lot of playing experience stepping into larger roles, 256 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: and OTAs are often a time when you evaluate those 257 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: younger players and you say, okay, we want to give 258 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: this guy a chance. Let's see how he looks on 259 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: the practice field. Do we need to supplement or not, 260 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: or do we feel like, all right, we're gonna pull 261 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: push our chips in the middle of the table and 262 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: like we're betting on this guy because he's looking really 263 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: good this summer. This is a time when you make 264 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: that case to a agree there's younger players. 265 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: The other guy I want to I want to go 266 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: back to. We mentioned him Lejontey Wester, I want to 267 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: talk about him just a little bit more because it 268 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: is going to be tough to crack a significant role 269 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: on offense. The Ravens have really good receivers. We talked 270 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: about Hopkins joining Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman, Mark Andrews 271 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: Isaiah likely a tight end. Tylan Wallace of course still 272 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: in the receiving mix. So like, it's gonna be tough 273 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: to get snaps on offense. However, I do think Western 274 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: is an intriguing player and somebody who during offseason and 275 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: training camp practices is gonna catch the eye of reporters 276 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: fans during these practices say like, man, this guy's got 277 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: some juice, Like he was a super super productive player 278 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: throughout college, and I think he's gonna make some plays 279 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: in practice that you're like, Oh, I like, Wester. 280 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: I think he's he's exciting. 281 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: He's got some agility and quickness and big play potential, 282 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: and so I am actually like curious to see if 283 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: he makes enough plays in these practices that the coaches say, hey, look. 284 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: Maybe we can find a way to work him in. 285 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Sprinkle him in on offense. 286 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: He's not gonna be playing thirty snaps, But does he 287 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: do enough in these practices to say, let's try to 288 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: find a couple of spots to get him some action 289 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: in games. 290 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. 291 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: And certainly he projects to be the Ravens punt returner, 292 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: which puts him on the active game day roster obviously, 293 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: So this is an opportunity for him. You know, if 294 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: you're on the game day roster, you want to fill 295 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: as many roles as possible. Yeah, and so he will 296 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get some offensive snaps, and this 297 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: is the time when he can kind of prove himself 298 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: a little bit in that regard. 299 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: The last guy that I'll point to on offense for 300 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: me is Keith Mitchell. 301 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that's a good one. 302 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 3: I think that he's Look, we saw him last year. 304 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: He was never really the player that he was as 305 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: a rookie. Coming back from that really serious kneegery that 306 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: he suffered near the end of his rookie season. Just 307 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: getting on the field last year was an accomplishment, and 308 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 3: I don't think he ever really had the full strength, mobility, 309 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: agility that he had his rookie season. And so the 310 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: Ravens are gonna have a chance to see what he 311 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: can do, and he I think projects most likely to 312 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: be the starting kick returner and then also be used 313 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: on an offensive role as depth, but also some high 314 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: impact potential with his big playability. 315 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so how's he moving? Like does he look? 316 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: He was a guy that when we talk about going 317 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: back in a couple of years and his these practices, 318 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: how important these practices and trained like the early part 319 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: of training camp practices. Keithon Mitchell was a guy that 320 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: like nobody was really talking about at this point two 321 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: years ago. Then you see him on the field and 322 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: you're like, man, this guy is fast. He is like 323 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: he can fly. And so he just consistently did that 324 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: ultimately ended up earning himself a spot on the fifty 325 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: three man roster as an undrafted rookie. But I think 326 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: that I'll be curious to see if he looks back 327 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: to what he did as a rookie. 328 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 329 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: I think that's another good one. 330 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: And he and wester are also OTA's are a good 331 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: opportunity because sometimes these veterans aren't there right, Like if 332 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Derek Hempy isn't there, for example, Keith Mitchell, you get 333 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: a lot of action and justice Hill certainly could be. 334 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: But you know, if d Hop isn't there, if bait 335 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Z who knows right, then like Wester, you get you 336 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: get a lot of snaps with the first team offense potentially, 337 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: And so it's a good time for some of those 338 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: role players looking to have a role or a bigger 339 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: role to get a lot of reps. Yeah, most of 340 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: my players to watch around defense, though, So let's take 341 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,119 Speaker 1: a quick break and then we'll come back and identify 342 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: who those defensive players are to watch. 343 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: If you're listening to the last podcast, we are coming 344 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: to you from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want 345 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: to mention our partners at Draft King Sportsbook. They are 346 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking 347 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: Sports Book. 348 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: The Crown is yours. So defense, who's at the top 349 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: of your list? 350 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: So with the injury to Ardarius Washington, there's a real 351 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: opportunity at the number three safety role, and two in 352 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: house candidates to fill that will be Snoozy Kane and 353 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: bo Braid. Sanousy being a seventh round pick last year 354 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: and bo Braid undrafted. I really like the way those 355 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: guys played on special teams last year. They saw a 356 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of action, especially for seventh round, you know, and 357 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: undrafted guys like they played in a lot of games 358 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and made a lot of plays on special teams. And 359 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I also thought that defensively in the preseason, they flashed 360 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: bo Braid, had some big hits, got an interception or 361 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: that one get overturned. 362 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: I can't remember. It was a dive. It was a 363 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: great diving play. 364 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I think he got it. Yeah, so we'll just count it. 365 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Count your book, it counts my book. Yeah, And I 366 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: thought Sanoosie played really well. I mean, these are physical 367 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: guys who will come up and hit you, and as 368 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: we were talking about before, there's an opportunity and they 369 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: can kind of plant their flag here in OTA's and 370 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: say maybe you don't need to go out and get 371 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: a veteran, or maybe you certainly don't need to spend 372 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: considerable resources on a veteran at least right And by 373 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: the way they play here in OTA's, I think that 374 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: could determine that. 375 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: Look our Darius Washington was an undrafted player who ended 376 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: up carving out a really nice role for himself here. 377 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: And if we were having the conversation going into his 378 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: second season, like it would have been a similar that 379 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: would have been a similar conversation right now than what 380 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: everything you just said about Bo Braid and Snoosie Kane 381 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: and so I think that the opportunity is there for 382 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: those guys to carve out a role for themselves. And 383 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: that's an important spot. It's part of the reason the 384 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: Ravens took Malachi Starks in the first round this year. 385 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 3: It's part of the reason last year that they went 386 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: out and they signed Eddie Jackson late in the process 387 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: because they wanted to have another safety. So, like that 388 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: third safety is really important for this team, and those 389 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: two guys have a pretty big opportunity in front of them. 390 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: I know you're trying to show how much of a 391 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: grinder you are looking at like the third safety role, 392 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: but I'll go with the I guess the flashyear pick here. 393 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: I want to see Malachi Starks. Yeah, yeah, I want 394 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: to see the rookie first round pick. The guy is 395 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: so talented, moves incredibly, incredibly well so athletic, even at 396 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: rookie camp, Like he stepped down. From a leadership standpoint, 397 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: it's a little different when you're leading the rookies. I 398 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: don't know that like there's going to be the leadership 399 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: expectation on him and OTAs like he took on that 400 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: leadership responsiblit. 401 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: Him then, and the way they're working together. 402 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Malachi's role increased with the injury to 403 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: ourd areas as it did, right, I mean I would 404 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: assume that means more snaps for him. Yeah, and so yeah, 405 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: pencil him in is the starter. Yeah, and this is 406 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: kind of the start of that. 407 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna he's I think he's just gonna be 408 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: a fun player to watch throughout spring and summer practices. 409 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 3: But for like, for him, it's it's we spend all 410 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: the time talking about can you carve out a role? 411 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: Can you can you earn your spot? 412 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 3: For him, it's more like, all right, you need to 413 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: get ready to play potential one hundred percent of the snaps, 414 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: Like you need to make sure, Like I don't think 415 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: knowing the defense is gonna be a problem for him. 416 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: He's probably could recite it at this point, just getting 417 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: a sense of how smart he is. But I do 418 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: think that like he's gonna have to get ready to 419 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: play and get a feel for how Kyle Hamilton moves 420 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: next to him, what the secondary. 421 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: Communication between those two guys. 422 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton talked a lot last year after the Ravens 423 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: made the switch to Ardarius about how well he and 424 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: Ourdareas communicated with each other and that partnership, and that 425 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: was a big deal, right even secondary played a whole 426 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: lot better down the stretch in part because of that 427 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: communication and that relationship. And now Kyle needs to build 428 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: that with Malachi. And you know, Kyle has been around 429 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: here during the voluntary strength and Conditioning program, so I 430 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: would I would bet that he's probably there for OTAs 431 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: and and that relationship building that relationship will be in 432 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: an integral part. 433 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: If you go back to Kyle's rookie season, especially the 434 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: first half of that year, he had some struggles and 435 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: part of it comes down to that communication stuff. Like 436 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: for as good of a player as Kyle Hamilton, and 437 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: he is, even he has some struggles. That Miami game 438 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: is the one that comes to mind, and I think 439 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: that like the communication piece. He talked about the value 440 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: of that and how important it is, and so now 441 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: is the opportunity for him and Malachi to build that 442 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: and and then of course, like I'll just be excited 443 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: to see some of the playmaking ability. We saw that 444 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: at Georgia and I'm guessing we're going to see more 445 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: of that here in these practices. 446 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: Yep, I'll grinder go to another give me the eighth 447 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: cornerback competition, the Radar Undo the Raider guys, and no 448 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: again for me. Just like Sanusi and Bo, it's a 449 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: couple of year two guys, and we've talked about how 450 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: you often make a big jump from year one to 451 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: year two. So I like to watch those sophomores. And 452 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: the two guys are a Desa Isaac and TJ. 453 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: Tampa. 454 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, a Desa Isaac third round pick. I mean 455 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: this is a prett early pick at outside linebacker. And 456 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: another player who I thought in the preseason and when 457 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: he was healthy flashed his potential. How big of a 458 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: role can he carve out in that outside linebacker pass 459 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: rusher mix. I'll be really intrigued to watch him at Ota. 460 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: I think he's a big one. 461 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 4: And then TJ. 462 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Tampa, similarly, another player who dealt with injuries his first year. 463 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, really the Ravens, you know your top three cornerbacks, 464 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: but especially with the injury to our Darius, your cornerback 465 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: depth is even more important because now Marlon might be 466 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: taking more snaffs at Nickel than he would have previously, 467 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: which puts a woozier more on the field opposite Nate Wiggins. 468 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: Obviously, all right, your. 469 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: Next guy up right, If those three player corners are 470 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: playing a lot, your fourth corner is probably going to 471 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: see some action too, And so who wins that number 472 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: four cornerback job, especially kind of as a perimeter corner. 473 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: Jaylen armor Davis is going to be in that mix, 474 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: a guy who again dealt with injuries, but TJ. Tampa 475 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: has an opportunity in front of him to establish himself. 476 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: This is a player that the Ravens drafted in the 477 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: fourth round are really excited about. 478 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 4: Last year. 479 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought TJ Tampa could have been 480 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: a second round pick and Ravens got to steal in 481 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: the fourth Unfortunately injured, but. 482 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 4: I think he has an opportunity. 483 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: You know, Tha's when you talked about at safety with 484 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: Bo Bradin, Snoozy King Kane having an opportunity to show 485 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: the front office basically you don't need to go out 486 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: and get a veteran. I think it's kind of similar 487 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: at cornerback now. 488 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that the Ravens are really in the 489 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: veteran cornerback market right now. They have so many. 490 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: Guys I think that they could be, oh, I would be. 491 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: I mean if you're looking at it and you're going 492 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 3: to say, Marlin Humphrey is going to play in the slot, 493 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: and so then you're looking at Cheetoh Woozie who they 494 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: signed that's a veteran corner, and then Nate Wiggins and 495 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: then basically it comes down to how do you feel 496 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: about TJ. Tampa and Jalen Armor Davis. 497 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: We know that the Ravens really like Jalen Armor Davis. 498 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: When he's healthy, now that's the big win, right he's 499 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: it's been an issue. But like you have two guys 500 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: there with Jalen Armor Davis TJ. 501 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: Tampa that I think. 502 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: And that's why I think practice the number four corner 503 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: are going to be important for them to basically show. 504 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're good to go. 505 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: By the way, you also drafted two more quarterbacks this 506 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: year in the sixth rounds. You have a ton of 507 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: depth at corner you Balao Cone and. 508 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: Robert Longer Beam. 509 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: So like you gotta, I'm not even sure that both 510 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: of those guys definitely have a spot on the fifty 511 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: three you sign another veteran, I. 512 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: Think I think that there's a lot of and that's 513 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 3: what these practices are for. Like you talk about young 514 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: guys getting an opportunity, I think that corner is maybe 515 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: one of the most important positions. 516 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: To get a good look at the young players. 517 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: Because you've got to you have a bunch of competition 518 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: there and a bunch of death young players. But like 519 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: the question is who can make that jump? And they 520 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: jump from an ability standpoint and from an availability standpoint, 521 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: that's the case for really all of these guys, particularly 522 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: when you're talking about Tampa and Jalen arber Davis from 523 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: an availability standpoint, and and so how how do they look, 524 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: how do they move? How are they from a health standpoint? 525 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: That that's going to be important. Like I'm not I 526 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't rule out if if those things, if the Ravens 527 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 3: didn't like what they saw on any of those questions, 528 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: could they bring in a veteran corner. 529 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: If they were going to sign a veteran corner, is 530 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: it a veteran slot? That would probably be the spot 531 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: for me, because right now you have Marlin and Kyle, 532 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have Arthur Mullett anymore, and and 533 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Ardarius went right now, So to me, that would be 534 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: the potential addition. 535 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and like they had Arthur Mallett last year 536 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: and now he barely played, but like because of injuries. 537 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: But they felt going into last year they re signed 538 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 3: Arthur m he was going to be a key piece 539 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 3: of the equation. Then he got hurt, didn't play. And 540 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: so I do think that like just when you compare 541 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: it to what they've done last year, they brought into 542 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: third safety in Eddie Jackson. They also still have Marx 543 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: Plains last year they brought in, they brought it, and 544 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: they resigned Arthur Molett. So like they've invested in those spots. 545 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: You know who you know who be who would be 546 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: an interesting signing at that spot would be Mike Hilton, 547 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: veteran AFC North played for the Steelers and the Bengals 548 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: like Cheto exactly. And Uh is still out there on 549 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: the free agent market. And now I don't know if 550 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: it's you know, what his price would be. I mean, 551 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: he's a he's a really good player, but he's up 552 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, up there in age a little bit, that'd 553 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: be an interesting one to keep an eye on. 554 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so now we're going down a rabbit hole here. 555 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: That was just my I don't I'm coming around around 556 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: maybe like I don't think an outside guy I would 557 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: be surprised. 558 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 4: Now, you know, is it a guy who's. 559 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: Like Versatil could play inside or outside? 560 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm just saying, like a veteran who you know. 561 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Is guaranteed a fifty three man roster spot, you know, 562 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: is competing you know, some some veteran. Of course that's 563 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: always a possibility. But like when we're talking about signings, 564 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a signing where you say, yeah, that 565 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: guy's on the fifty three Yeah. Right, And so with 566 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: so much competition at corner, you don't have a lot 567 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: more spots. Now, you don't guarantee a. 568 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 4: Fifty three men roster spot. 569 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: But my eyes, last position for me goes to outside linebacker. 570 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: And a player who, like some of these other guys 571 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: we talked about, is dealt with injuries. 572 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 4: David Ajabo. 573 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big off season for David Ajabo to 574 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: kind of have that breakout that we all know is 575 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: it's in there, but we haven't seen it yet. And 576 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: so him establishing himself, especially with the addition of Mike Green. 577 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens have all their outside linebackers returning. 578 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: Can he really There's certainly been times in previous summers, 579 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: including last year, we were like, David Ajava looks good. 580 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: That guy is his feasting and can he have another 581 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: summer like that? 582 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: When we sat down with Eric Tacosta after the draft 583 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: on the podcast, he pointed out David Ajabo and that 584 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: the Ravens still have high hopes and expectations for him. 585 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: You look at the numbers and a Job is kind 586 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: of competing for a roster spot. I don't think that 587 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 3: it's a guarantee this year, and so that competition is 588 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: is underway, and I mean you just go through it. 589 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: Kyle Vanoi, Dafe Owe, Tavius Robinson, Mike Green, and DSA Isaac. 590 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: That's five right there. Then you added David a Jaba. 591 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 3: How many outside linebackers are the Ravens going to keep 592 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: on the team. 593 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: Yep, we'll see. 594 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: But I think that if if a Job was going 595 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: to carve out that that spot for himself, it's just 596 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: been health for him, That's the thing. I mean, it's 597 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: been it's been health has really set him back. Super 598 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: talented player, you know, get more removed from injuries. And 599 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: so I think that, like everyone knows that, like the 600 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: potential is there. You just hope he's able to stay 601 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: healthy and able to just be on the field and 602 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: be productive throughout these practices. So it's important for him. 603 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: I'm I'm I think a lot of people feel this way. 604 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: He's an easy guy to root for. Yeah, I'm like 605 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: David a Jaba to be able to kind of put 606 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: it all together and stay healthy. 607 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 608 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: And if he did, I mean he does, that's that's 609 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: a boon for the Ravens. If that guy plays his potential, 610 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: my goodness that he's a difference maker. Yeah, and so yeah, sorry, 611 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: I thought it one more guy, Trenton Simpson. Yeah, I 612 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: had Tom stepping in real stepping back into that starting spot. Yeah, 613 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: with the departures this offseason Malik Harrison and Chris Board 614 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: and it'll be a key off season for him. And 615 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: Roquon talked this offseason about you know, he and Trenton 616 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: kind of developing that that bond and uh, that partnership 617 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: working together, and I think this will be another important 618 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: summer for him to establish himself. 619 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gonna get a chance to talk to 620 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: these guys on Wednesday and watch practice we are going 621 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: to give you We will have a follow up podcast 622 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: after that giving you our full impressions and takeaways from 623 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: the first day of open o TA practices, as well 624 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: as getting a chance to talk with some of the guys. 625 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: So we're excited. 626 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 3: I mean, it is fun when there's football action happening 627 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: out there on the field, and we'll be breaking it 628 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: all down for you over the course of this week. 629 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: As always, you can email us at the Lounge Ravens 630 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: dot NFL dot net. Let us know us questions. 631 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: We'll have what you have. 632 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: We'll have all the hot takes after oh yeah, one 633 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: day practice. One day I can make huge judgments. 634 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: Size them up. OTA practice a size up. 635 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: We'll be bringing you all the insider practice info. 636 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for listening. We'll talk with 637 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: you again soon