WEBVTT - Do You Have A Faucet?

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jetty and He Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Mahomes out for the season. Mahomes suffering that torn

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<v Speaker 3>acl in the loss of the Chargers. Kansas City now

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<v Speaker 3>out of playoff contention, Mahomes is expected to need surgery,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Chiefs head coach Andy Reid now says the

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<v Speaker 3>Mahomes will get a second opinion before any surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>After a decade of winning the division every year and

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<v Speaker 4>showing up in the Super Bowl practically every year, the

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<v Speaker 4>Kansas City Chiefs are done. Some of you are excited

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<v Speaker 4>about that. Some of you are not the casual fan.

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<v Speaker 4>So many casual fans and Chiefs clothes that I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>around the country because they've been the number one team

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<v Speaker 4>for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Nic But they're big star, really really hurt. God.

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<v Speaker 4>They got to be almost happy to have a break.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got to be after going deep in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 4>that many years in a row. You've i mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>played like an extra two seasons or something like that

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<v Speaker 4>over teams that weren't in the playoffs. You got to

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<v Speaker 4>be worn out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure as guys who are fanatically competitive, they're disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they're relaxing watching football on the TV with

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<v Speaker 1>families and playing golf with buddies and no longer getting

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<v Speaker 1>a crap beat out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, they might think, yeah, this isn't so bad now, boys.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the kind of weird things that happened that

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<v Speaker 4>allowed Michael Jordan to have that six championship run was

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<v Speaker 4>he took a break in the middle. You don't usually

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<v Speaker 4>get to do that where you're not, you know, playing

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<v Speaker 4>an extra half a season every year and grinding yourself

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<v Speaker 4>down and having to focus so much. You get a break,

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<v Speaker 4>a sabbatical, come back and try it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, huh.

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<v Speaker 4>If Patrick Mahons is hurt, hurt like uh, will never

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<v Speaker 4>be the same, that'd be a really big deal for

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<v Speaker 4>the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It amazes me how guys bounce back from the serious

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<v Speaker 1>tendon tears, knee knee problems, knee surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would be terrified for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>my life and taking the wrong step, And these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are eluding biamoths and getting smashed into But you see

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<v Speaker 1>it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish him well, it seems like a really nice

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<v Speaker 2>young eluding Biamuth. Yeah, exactly. Should do we have a

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<v Speaker 2>little clip of white Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have a little little clip. Cool. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>about that Christmas. Legally, that's how.

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<v Speaker 1>Much we can play right for rules having to do

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<v Speaker 1>with licensing and podcasts and that sort of thing. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I came across an absolutely wonderful, incredibly moving bit of

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<v Speaker 1>journalism writing thinking about that song, which is the top

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<v Speaker 1>selling single of all time and it's seven Is that correct? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not, actually, but that's kind part of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>It was recorded in nineteen forty as part of the

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<v Speaker 1>music for Holiday In and the Molly in the Hotel. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no, that's the name of the movie. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel chain came afterward. Interestingly, the movie Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my wife's favorite movie. Really, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I've never even heard of holiday In. It's

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<v Speaker 1>practically on a loop during the Holiday Show kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so it's it's one of the several popular songs

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<v Speaker 1>from that movie. But by the time the Christmas season

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<v Speaker 1>the movie came out in nineteen forty two because of

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<v Speaker 1>production delays and that sort of thing. But anyway, it

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<v Speaker 1>came out in nineteen forty two. And what modern folks

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize is that, much like the song I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>Home for Christmas, the fame and the emotional weight of

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<v Speaker 1>the song had everything to do with World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>We had hundreds of thousands of guys overseas and the

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<v Speaker 1>song and the thoughts of snowy treetops and carefree children

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<v Speaker 1>were an incredible comfort, kind of a bittersweet comfort to

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<v Speaker 1>the guys fighting overseas. Servicemen requested it again and again

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<v Speaker 1>and again on our Armed Forces radio, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>the top selling song of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in a twenty sixteen article, Howard Crosby was

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Crosby's nephew, told a story about being He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I once asked Bing about the most difficult thing he

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<v Speaker 1>had ever had to do during his entertainment career. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>in December nineteen forty four, he was in a USO

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<v Speaker 1>show with Bob Hope and the Andrews Sisters. They did

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<v Speaker 1>an outdoor shore show in northern France. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, he had to stand there and sing

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<v Speaker 1>White Christmas with one hundred thousand gis and tears without

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down himself. And of course a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>boys were killed in the Battle of the Bulge a

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<v Speaker 1>few days later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oof. And that feeling of longing.

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<v Speaker 1>For home and the people at home longing for their

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<v Speaker 1>men overseas and women in some cases nurses, and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing was part of why that song had

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<v Speaker 1>such enormous weight for people emotionally and why you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also just a beautiful, beautiful song.

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<v Speaker 2>Well most one of the reasons it's as huge as

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, it is because it's still very popular to hear

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<v Speaker 4>around Christmas time, and we ain't thinking about World War

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<v Speaker 4>Two when we're hearing it right when I heard it

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<v Speaker 4>for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, interestingly, a final note on this, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way records were manufactured back in the day, the song

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<v Speaker 1>became so popular after the war that Decca Records wore

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<v Speaker 1>out the original master tape by nineteen forty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>summoned Bing to re record the version, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>one we know and love today. Okay, so that's why

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<v Speaker 1>when I played it off Apple Music the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>it said nineteen forty seven, they had to.

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<v Speaker 2>Re record it, Yeah, exactly. I wonder how similar it

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<v Speaker 2>is to the original.

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<v Speaker 1>Substantially, I would guess. I don't imagine they'd mess with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were in charge of Decat Records, I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>I want the same freaking guys playing violin.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't change anything. They wore out the original.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they re released it so many times. White

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is available to stream on Amazon Prime. Amazon soon

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<v Speaker 1>to be in charge of everything on Earth that's Amazon anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing years ago about I'll be Home for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know most people think of is, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to drive back to Kansas or whatever, see

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<v Speaker 1>the folks, No, my god. It was about being in

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<v Speaker 1>a fox hole and wanting to live long enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be home for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be home for Christmas, if only in my dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>That was all about the troops.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been doing like probably a lot of people are doing,

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<v Speaker 4>where you just kind of get a general Spotify or

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<v Speaker 4>Apple Music or Iron Music or whatever you're using Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>music list, and it gives you and it's got everything

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<v Speaker 4>from Bing Crosby and forty seven singing White Christmas to

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<v Speaker 4>Ariana Grande singing some pop Christmas song now and everything

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<v Speaker 4>in between, and they vary a lot. And I like

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<v Speaker 4>the older classics classics? Is that just because I'm old?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I like the stuff that was all recorded

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<v Speaker 4>before I was born. Mostly, Yeah, as opposed to anything

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<v Speaker 4>more modern.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have a reindeer gormy in my chestnuts than

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<v Speaker 1>hear the latest Ariana Grande Christmas song. Please well, give

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<v Speaker 1>me Andy Williams, give me Bing, give me Dean Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>Has that Mariah Carey song made it to the standard

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<v Speaker 4>list yet, because that came out a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's a very very big hit for Christmas music present.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep hearing the what was the one where they

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<v Speaker 4>raised money for starving kids in Africa?

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<v Speaker 2>That one? I keep hearing that a lot. Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 2>they know it's Christmas by band Aid? Mm hmm. It's

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<v Speaker 2>catchy tune.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a very catchy tune, and the cause kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like came and went quickly, but it's very catchy

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<v Speaker 4>Christmas song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually the lyrics are very dopey if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to them, because they completely ignore the fact that a

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<v Speaker 1>they may be vaguely aware that it's Christmas both most

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<v Speaker 1>of them are Muslims, so do they know it's Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>time at all? They're Muslims, they're starving Muslims, They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't that they're starving, it's that they're Muslims. With

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<v Speaker 1>all due respect to Bono and members of various groovy

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<v Speaker 1>groups back in the day, Wham whatever, Huey Lewis, who

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<v Speaker 1>has a lovely turn in it, Cindy Lauper at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but their hearts were.

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<v Speaker 2>In the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to do good, anti money for starving pape

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<v Speaker 1>what come on? But again, the lyrics kind it dumb. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. I don't know if that was

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out at the time. I don't think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We acted like everybody in Africa's starving, had a Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>tree up pushing they had food. Part of that was true.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of that was true. That's true, the other not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Why are we raising money for the Scouts

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<v Speaker 1>this week? Well, I'll explain that in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and see where we are. We have a gender is

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<v Speaker 1>it a gender benning madness?

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<v Speaker 2>We got this hour? Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Gender Bending Menace update at the bottom of the hour. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a blockbuster. It explains so much of the social

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<v Speaker 1>contagion of adolescence identifying as transgender and the nightmare of

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<v Speaker 1>then activist adults mutilating them because they're momentarily confused. I

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<v Speaker 1>there ought to be trials for this and soon. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the job's numbers are out too. We ought to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on that. Maybe we'll get to that soon. Stay here, yo, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing so?

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<v Speaker 4>The theory is this time of year we try to

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<v Speaker 4>raise money for something good, and I know for me,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the idea that I'm spending a lot of money

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<v Speaker 4>on myself and my kids and indulgence and that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff, and so throw some money toward a little

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<v Speaker 4>making the world a better place seems like a good idea.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're trying to raise money for Scouting and hoping

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<v Speaker 4>to raise a hundred thousand dollars. We got a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of texts yesterday and various people like this thank you

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<v Speaker 4>for choosing to support Scouting. Two of my sons are

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<v Speaker 4>Eagle Scouts, and one is very close Now. My husband

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<v Speaker 4>and I have committed to volunteering with Scouting from Tiger

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<v Speaker 4>Scouting all the way up until now. Man, Like a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things ban programs, youth sports, scouting, the way

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<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing parents, moms and dads, the amount of time

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<v Speaker 4>that they put into this, whether it's going on some

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<v Speaker 4>of the camping trips, or being at the meetings, or

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<v Speaker 4>running some of the various merit badges and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and now of course for free.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're all.

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<v Speaker 4>Donating your time. Just tremendous amount of time involved. Very impressive. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with your comments of out how it makes

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<v Speaker 4>responsible little adults little by little over time with the program.

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<v Speaker 4>My boys have been well prepared for interviewing for jobs

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<v Speaker 4>and attending college. And I believe a large part of

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<v Speaker 4>it is because of their scouting experience. And we've got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of stuff about well this one for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>the experience in being a good citizen, learning how to

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<v Speaker 4>serve the community and help others, which I really really like,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mentioned since my son joined scouting, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's the best thing that has happened in his life.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've seen kids that were sixteen years old that

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<v Speaker 4>seem like they're twenty eight years old. And I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like in the modern world. I see the reverse most often.

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<v Speaker 4>I see twenty eight year olds who seem like they're sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, And I don't want to go into

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<v Speaker 1>this much that we've had some people express concern about

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<v Speaker 1>certain changes in recent years at the Scouts and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But as a force for a good, particularly in lives

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<v Speaker 1>of young boys and young men, it's just indisputable that

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<v Speaker 1>it is that, and it's important and it gives it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good for how many.

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<v Speaker 4>Organizations are still saying the pledge of the Allegiance and

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<v Speaker 4>doing the flag ceremony if the US flag and all

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of stuff. Anyway, we're raising money. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>do an update here in a second, so we do

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<v Speaker 4>the thing when we raise money where you can either

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<v Speaker 4>can we explain why we're raising money to do what?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh right, so more kids can join. So it costs

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<v Speaker 4>some money to be in. It's gonna be at least

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of hundred dollars to get your kids signed up,

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<v Speaker 4>and some people just decide I can't afford that. And

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<v Speaker 4>so this is basically scholarships to be to be able to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, say hey, we'll cover that Scouting and be

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<v Speaker 4>able to say hey, we'll cover that for a whole

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of different kids so that they can get signed

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<v Speaker 4>up and you know, get this leadership opportunities or learn

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<v Speaker 4>the pledge of allegiance because they're not teaching them to

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<v Speaker 4>you a school or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Right instead of having them on the streets with the

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<v Speaker 1>streets being their mentors.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good.

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<v Speaker 4>But we always do this thing where you can donate

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<v Speaker 4>with your name, you can donate anonymously, or you can

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<v Speaker 4>come up with a funny name. For instance, Jack's Wet

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<v Speaker 4>Sheets donated two hundred and sixty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that's your comforter technically right, Gavin needs it more?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five bucks? Is that like it? Like? Yeah, are

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<v Speaker 2>you getting any like that kind of needs it more?

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<v Speaker 2>Hell is going on? No? I don't know either, Gavin. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one more funny one I wanted to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>Where didn't that go? Hip?

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<v Speaker 4>Anonymous? And like the hippopotamus? I guess one hundred bucks? Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>our boss dropped the hundred bucks. Thank you to our boss, Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate here's how much good betes roll your little uh

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<v Speaker 1>drum roll for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you should learn that as there.

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<v Speaker 1>We were training there in Dunkirk, World War One veteran Gladys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty eight and eighteen dollars. There you go, thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. We're barely two days in. Everyone's gonna help

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of kids to have a lot of great experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>We're exposed to a lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>stations all over the place. If you just go to

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and getdy dot com, twenty five bucks. Come on,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna spend that much when you go through the

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<v Speaker 4>Starbucks drive through today.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty five bucks, fifty bucks something again, pittances, Oh, Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>a getty dot com donate now.

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<v Speaker 2>The button's super easy.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if Hay to find had you heard any

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<v Speaker 4>spin on the jobs numbers that are out today?

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<v Speaker 1>Number, so I attempted to take them in. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>full time job trying to understand the jobs numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the US added sixty four thousand jobs in November.

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<v Speaker 4>The unemployment rate rose a little bit. It's four point

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<v Speaker 4>six percent. It's the highest in four years, fueling questions

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<v Speaker 4>about America's economy underlying strength. All Right, it's always all

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers that come out every month, are always fueling questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Federal government employees employment shrank by six thousand November, adding

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<v Speaker 1>to a massive loss of one hundred and sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand federal jobs in October. Federal government employment is down

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<v Speaker 1>by two hundred and seventy one thousand since January. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reminded of how enormous the federal government is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the adding of sixty four thousand jobs was ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of the expectation, which I don't get that whole thing,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were expecting forty five and they got sixty four,

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<v Speaker 4>So you bought.

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<v Speaker 1>The unemployment rate rose more than expected. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling That's what my little joke about a full time job. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>economists describe the current labor market as a low fire,

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<v Speaker 1>low higher environment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good because it rhymes. That is true.

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<v Speaker 4>They put a lot of work into making sure you

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<v Speaker 4>got rhyming phrases or alliteration.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, alliteration is very important. Oh, that reminds me. Had

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<v Speaker 1>we had a pre show meeting tipping point?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, we had a pre show meeting worthy You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was somewhat annoyed by the fact that the gender

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<v Speaker 1>Bending Madness Update, which is coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes and it's a blockbuster, also has it

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<v Speaker 1>shares the word madness with a campus Madness update, and

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<v Speaker 1>Katie decided or suggested campus chaos update.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. That's a good So that's the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Name, and it's got a literation, so that makes it

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<v Speaker 1>more true.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the way it works? Yes? Oh yeah, with

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<v Speaker 2>the rimes are right, Yeah, everybody knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we certainly hope you're gainfully employed if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to be, and if you're not, we wish you well.

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<v Speaker 2>Been there, done that, hated it.

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<v Speaker 4>So the three big stories, they got a new lead

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<v Speaker 4>in the search for the Brown University shooter. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that is going to be turned out to be disappointingly,

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<v Speaker 4>frustratingly mundane and just another kind of crazy, adjacent, angry

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<v Speaker 4>person who decided to kill people. Those stories are horrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what we do about that. In the

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<v Speaker 4>Rob Reiner story, his son is going to be charged

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<v Speaker 4>with murder probably today, a couple murders. And the only

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<v Speaker 4>greater significance I can see to that story is what

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<v Speaker 4>do we do with drug addicts? Who are out there

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<v Speaker 4>on the street and we know they're drug addicts and

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<v Speaker 4>they're dangerous, and they they're still doing the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we do with that crowd?

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<v Speaker 1>If that young man couldn't be saved by compassion and

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<v Speaker 1>rehab and money, what do we do right.

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<v Speaker 4>For the average person on the street where you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have even close to the resources to throw at them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the big question about the Rob Reiner thing. To me,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what we should be discussing rather than his celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope your Christmas is holly and jolly. I really

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<v Speaker 2>do again. It rhymes, so it's more true. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we've discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, how about a gender bending madness update. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 1>the blockbuster.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept hearing about this thing called by the loco.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a brave among sane people.

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<v Speaker 1>The craze, the trend feels like it's over, but man

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<v Speaker 1>institutions are doubling down on the madness. Uh, there's all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff to get to, so leticious dive right in.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, a transidentified male serving a twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>year sentence for the violent murder of his own mother

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<v Speaker 1>was quietly transferred into a minimum security Illinois women's prison

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<v Speaker 1>with a mother baby unit. John Wesley Finegan, who began

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<v Speaker 1>calling himself Hannah Dagne in twenty fourteen, approximately five years

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<v Speaker 1>into his prison term, was transferred to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kush Women's Prison. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently, yes, a story that ten years ago, every human

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<v Speaker 1>on earth would have said, what, that's the stupidest.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, you got to undo that before ten years from

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<v Speaker 2>now they'll say.

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<v Speaker 4>It, or ten years ago women's groups should have been

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<v Speaker 4>marching over that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely outraged.

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<v Speaker 1>Another tidbit here, a shortest story than I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the main thing I wanted to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But a.

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<v Speaker 1>Woman's group has been formed at Cambridge University, The Cambridge

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<v Speaker 1>University Society of Women, an association for female students at

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<v Speaker 1>the university, quote providing a place for free speech, discussion

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<v Speaker 1>and association among women. Here's the problem, they said, no women,

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<v Speaker 1>biologic biological sex is.

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<v Speaker 2>Real and immutable.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, men who call themselves trans cannot become women,

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<v Speaker 1>therefore cannot join the Cambridge University Society of Women. Within

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours of its founding, more than thirty other

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<v Speaker 1>societies at Cambridge had signed a document denouncing it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in the present day, friends, So on the universities

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<v Speaker 1>in some governments Blue states, they are pushing this stuff hard.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to push back.

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<v Speaker 1>The groups who signed the agreement to decriede quote feminism

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<v Speaker 1>without intersectionality as not effective, considerate, or productive and reiterated

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<v Speaker 1>that the underside organizations quote are safe spaces for transgender

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<v Speaker 1>and gender queer students. Soon after that, of petition circulated

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<v Speaker 1>on campus to ban the society completely. And the gal

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<v Speaker 1>who founded it as an undergraduate where, who says where

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<v Speaker 1>unless you supported what she called the omni cause of

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<v Speaker 1>progressive dogma, you're in the intellectual minority claiming sex based

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<v Speaker 1>rights and pointing to sex based depression by extension. That

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<v Speaker 1>was such a bad view to hold, she said, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of her experience in undergrad unbelievable. But here's the part

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to get to about the social contagion

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<v Speaker 1>of adolescent girls identifying as transgender or whatever queer.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's hot, it's hip.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we pointed out the study that came out

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<v Speaker 1>fairly recently. Over the past decade, the number of young

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<v Speaker 1>Americans identifying as transgender non binary rose sharply then declined

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<v Speaker 1>just as sharply cut.

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<v Speaker 2>In half in the space like two years. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>This pattern invites an obvious political story transgender identification fell

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<v Speaker 1>out of fashion due to a cultural backlash, or it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lesser and or it's lesser prominence and left wing politics.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's another more subtle explanation for the pattern. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the part that I found super interesting. As

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<v Speaker 1>we all right try to understand human beings, we're such

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<v Speaker 1>a weird species. It's all about the dynamics of signaling.

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<v Speaker 1>In a crowded social environment, human beings spend a surprising

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time sending in decoding signals about who we are,

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<v Speaker 1>what we value, and where we stand. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this jack a lot, you know, virtue signaling and tribal

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<v Speaker 1>messaging and stuff like that. Most of these signals entail

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<v Speaker 1>costs we are willing to bear, like time, money, social risks,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes even bodily alteration. And they mentioned various examples various cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>The central claim of signaling theory, which was developed independently

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<v Speaker 1>in economics and evolutionary biology, interestingly enough, is that costly

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<v Speaker 1>signals are a more reliable indicator of underlying traits or

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<v Speaker 1>commitments than cheap ones.

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<v Speaker 2>This is because.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheap signals can be easily faked by those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>I won't possess the relevant traits. For example, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is an animal example from you know, evolutionary biology, the

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<v Speaker 1>peacock grows colorful and elaborate plumage to signal to the

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<v Speaker 1>PN that it is capable of surviving despite being encumbered

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<v Speaker 1>with such a handicap. Don't worry, I'll bring it home

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<v Speaker 1>to human being. So when it comes to gender, the

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<v Speaker 1>same principle applies. Declaring an identity is a low cost

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<v Speaker 1>signal to show that you're down with the group, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're progressive, that you're woke. It costs you practically nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it's a craze as compared to say, undertaking

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<v Speaker 1>medical transition or changing your legal documentation, or living in

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<v Speaker 1>ways that carry social and professional risks. Individuals who incur

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<v Speaker 1>those costs actually get surgery, for instance, send stronger, hard

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<v Speaker 1>to fake signals. Hence, when signaling environment changes when too

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<v Speaker 1>many others are sending that week easy to fake signal,

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<v Speaker 1>the payoff shifts. You don't get any credit for it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we see a fall in transgender identification. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, you're a thirteen year old girl, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to show you're down with the trans thing and

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<v Speaker 1>the queer thing and you're no bigot, and you're woke

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<v Speaker 1>and you're modern and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, yeah, I'm gender queer.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though you have no sexual thoughts whatsoever, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just you're an adolescent.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's doing it, you don't get any credit for it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason you're saying it is for the

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<v Speaker 1>social credit. So you see a rate of transgender identification

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<v Speaker 1>plunge in an impossibly short time if it was all sincere.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think of an example of it on

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<v Speaker 4>the right, because you know, everybody's susceptible to the wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to signal to their group. Hey, I'm part of the group.

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<v Speaker 4>What would be an example of a like a difficult

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<v Speaker 4>to do signal that shows I'm really down as opposed

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<v Speaker 4>to a week and you know, driving a big is

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<v Speaker 4>that one?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know what it would be. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really good question. I would have to newtilance

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<v Speaker 2>through for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>If anybody can come up with anything, drop us a

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<v Speaker 1>text four one, five, two nine five KFTC or for

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<v Speaker 1>one all right, I'm sorry a mailbag and I'm strong

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<v Speaker 1>egiddy dot com. So they've got a couple more examples.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd probably get it at this point. The

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<v Speaker 1>university degree is often less about the content of Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>metaphysics than about demonstrating traits like intelligence, persistence, and conformity.

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<v Speaker 4>Hilarious that you suggested they teach Shakespeare anywhere, But I

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<v Speaker 4>get to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right anyway, So but that use that was the conventional

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom about a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you don't need that degree for this job.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that you have the degree shows that

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you're reasonably bright, you're persistent, you stuck with it and

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<v Speaker 1>finished it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, and you can follow rules and get with a system.

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<v Speaker 2>That is been my experience.

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<v Speaker 4>That graduate degree gets thrown around without it matter really

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 4>what the degree was in or anything like that. It's

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 4>you went to graduate school. You can use just quote

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<v Speaker 4>everything counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, But so then if degrees become a walk

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in the park with great inflation and you don't even

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>not show up to class anymore, that signal is it's

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<v Speaker 1>worthless now. So anyway, I thought that was a super

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<v Speaker 1>interesting little melding of science and human behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see one more.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wish we had more time for this, but

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 1>it's becoming absolutely undeniable, the link between transgenderism and autism.

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>The number of autistic kids who are trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out who they are, why they're not like everybody, why

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't belong. And as the parent of autistic kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you that being accepted is extremely important

0:25:56.119 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>because they don't get that. They don't get acceptance because

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<v Speaker 1>they are different, if you prefer the term neuro divergent.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if someone offers them warm acceptance and you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of us and we think you're cool, autistic kids

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<v Speaker 1>will often leap at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Dang it, I didn't know that that is something. So

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<v Speaker 4>you got a kid they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonely, They're profoundly lonely, to put it frankly. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a kid that's, you know, however far down the spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>of autism, and you're dealing with this, whoa, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot well. And to my point, though, who will offer

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>those lonely alienated kids immediate, warm, enthusiastic acceptance if they

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>The party line?

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>The intersectional crowd, the transgender crowd, the radical gender theory folks,

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and critical race theory.

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<v Speaker 4>All of a sudden, you've got a group and friends

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<v Speaker 4>and you're being cheered. Yeah, I can see why that'd

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<v Speaker 4>be very appealing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's unbelievable.

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And maybe we'll carve that one out and spend more

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>time on it another time because it's super interesting. But

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>then finally I wanted to get to this one, and

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>this is from the extremely responsible Free Press winging it.

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<v Speaker 1>What the gender doctors say in private and footage obtained

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>by the Free Press. Gender doctors acknowledge they perform life

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>altering procedures on vulnerable youth with no supportive evidence, and

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>they're proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They are active.

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<v Speaker 1>They are radical activists that want to erase the gender divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of critical theory if you go back to

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.959
<v Speaker 1>the origins of it in the you know, you know

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>France Fanan and what's his name, Michelle Fuco, they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Free Press from the twenty twenty one conference of the

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<v Speaker 1>US Professional Association for Transgender Health.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your.

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<v Speaker 1>Upath, us path whatever. There's a social worker with the

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<v Speaker 1>transgender health program at the Oregon Health and Science University

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<v Speaker 1>speaking about a case of an adolescent who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be made to look as if they have no sex

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And they were describing this eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>who was living on his own for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he explained a desire to look like Barbie down there. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Sky was this person's name, reported being asexual, never had sex,

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<v Speaker 1>having no desire to have sex in the future. Indeed,

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Sky did not want to feel any pleasurable sensation and

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<v Speaker 1>hope removal of all arogenist tissue would be possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's a person with some serious issues. That is

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<v Speaker 4>precisely right.

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<v Speaker 1>And as this doctor writes in the Free Press, not

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, a patient like Sky would have been given

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<v Speaker 1>a psychological evaluation and offered mental health counseling. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the evolving world of gender medicine, clinicians now want to

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>help young people like Sky achieve their gender goals, and

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<v Speaker 1>they go into nullification procedures and that they're not as

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<v Speaker 1>accessible as they should be, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Nullification being there's a name for not wanting to be either.

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<v Speaker 2>Nullification. That's the first time we've heard that term. We

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<v Speaker 2>got to talk more about that coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay here, So wrapping up our conversation. So I was

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent aware obviously of various surgeries people get

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<v Speaker 4>to be a different sex, you know, present, physically, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>how you want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't because it can't change your sex.

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<v Speaker 4>I had not not come across the word nullification though,

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<v Speaker 4>where people want to be neither like a ken doll. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they want to be completely non a non sexual being,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning neither male nor female, and that the number of

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>those poor metal ill people are growing in number.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have you gotta urinate out of something?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a faucet? Souh.

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<v Speaker 1>So this this person who's giving the speech that that

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<v Speaker 1>when confronted with a patient like Sky who are talking

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to talking about existing research and standards of care are

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>not enough to meet the needs of our patients, and

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we need to take it to the next level to

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<v Speaker 1>really think about how we evolve and match the need

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of our patients as their needs are being expressed to us.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the psychologist who is working with the young

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>confused young man agreed and described doing just that. Here's

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>where it gets sick. And here's my point. These people

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>are such lunatic extremist activists, the psychologists. Here's where it

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>gets sick. Okay, we haven't gotten sick yet. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no kidding. The psychologist told the conference that quote, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to reframe the role of the mental health person

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>or the psychologist as a collaborator rather than a gatekeeper.

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<v Speaker 1>That meant, she explained, making sure that patients with serious

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>mental health problems such as multiple personalities in psychosis, are

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<v Speaker 1>not excluded from gender surgery just because the team is

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>quote uncomfortable operating on them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the definition of the usually said as a negative phrase,

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<v Speaker 4>the inmates are running the asylum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right right.

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<v Speaker 1>This Mary Marsiglio mayor Marsiglio was the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>psychologist said that being a member of the surgical team

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<v Speaker 1>provided the opportunity to help the patient navigate care. This

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<v Speaker 1>is especially necessary when what is requested by the patient

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<v Speaker 1>is a surgery that has not been performed before or

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<v Speaker 1>is of higher risk.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like you to cut off my foot. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be a gatekeeper. You're in charge

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<v Speaker 4>of your care. I'm just here to do what you ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Even people with.

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<v Speaker 1>Serious mental health problems like psychosis should not be excluded

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<v Speaker 1>from gender surgery just because the team is uncomfortable operating

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<v Speaker 1>on them and really.

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<v Speaker 2>Has no idea what they're doing. People are so nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>You've taken it so crazy far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I know. This is beyond. This is

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<v Speaker 1>so far beyond, you know. And these examples are seen

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>but teaching teaching kids to hate their country or that

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>white people are responsible for all the evil in the

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>world or whatever. This is mutilating children. I mean, it's

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.239
<v Speaker 1>not the like people become convinced that they should have

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>white guilt and therefore have their healthy breasts removed or

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>their genitals altered, or take puberty blockers that change their

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>bodies for the rest of their lives. I mean, this

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>is doctor mengelas stuff. Anyway, I'm sorry to end on

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>such a troubling note, but it's a gender betting madness update.

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<v Speaker 4>So earlier in the show, Joe had the break news

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 4>of an article in the New York Times Peter Baker

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 4>and others talking to Susie Wiles, who is so close

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<v Speaker 4>to Donald Trump, and she said a bunch of praily

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<v Speaker 4>shocking things about the President and other people in the

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 4>White House. She has responded, and we can get into

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<v Speaker 4>what she said again a little bit later if you

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 4>want to. She's the damn chief of staff. She has responded,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 4>and she's been close to him for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>The article, published early this morning is a disingenuously framed

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<v Speaker 4>hit piece on me and the finest president, white House staff,

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<v Speaker 4>and cabinet in history. Significant context was disregarded, and much

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<v Speaker 4>of what I and others said about the team and

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 4>the President was left out of the article. So she's

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<v Speaker 4>distancing herself from the article that she sat down for.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt that's true, at least partly.

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<v Speaker 4>You have no doubt that it was taken out of

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<v Speaker 4>context or not presented exactly the way she said it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Yeah, Whether it's seventy percent accurate and thirty percent

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<v Speaker 1>to jack up or vice versa. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, her saying mister Trump has an alcoholics personality,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to imagine putting that in a context that

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<v Speaker 1>would soften that.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>High functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general, their personalities are

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>exaggerated when they drink. And so I'm a little bit

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of an expert in big personalities. While Trump does not drink,

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.240
<v Speaker 1>she said, quote, he has an alcoholics personality and operates

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<v Speaker 1>quote with a view that there's nothing he can't do, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>zero nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess she's not presenting that as a negative, which

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be right right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like by normal standards, we cite Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. His competitiveness is borderline psycho and it made

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>him the greatest basketball player on earth and successful in

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>one championships.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a bad thing or a good thing? It's

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<v Speaker 2>more complicated than that. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we'll look into that more. We got a couple

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