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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by a DraftKings. I'm Ryan

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Speaker 1: Mink here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the biggest news of the week, hit some

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Speaker 1: of the big points from Wednesday's press conferences, and then

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Speaker 1: also preview the Ravens game against the Dallas Cowboys Sunday

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Speaker 1: at at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Big game, b Yes, very much so.

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Speaker 1: So, Garrett, let's start with some of the biggest talking

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Speaker 1: points this week. And obviously with the Ravens sitting at

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Speaker 1: oh and two, it's kind of a vibes check right

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, like, how are y'all holding up?

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Speaker 2: You know, what's the feeling about this slow start.

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Speaker 1: It's the Ravens worst start to a season since twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: as we all know. And my sense of the locker

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Speaker 1: room is that it's not all that different. I think

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Speaker 1: there's definitely a sense of urgency. They know that you

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Speaker 1: really really cannot afford the fallen to an oh and

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Speaker 1: three hole, And but I don't sense tightness either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, I thought said it pretty well when he

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Speaker 4: said that, like, guys aren't moping around here, and that's

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Speaker 4: definitely not like being in this building.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely not the vibe.

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Speaker 4: And the emotion that I would use to describe like

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Speaker 4: what I've seen in practice in the locker room just

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Speaker 4: walking around. I don't think that guys from moping around

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Speaker 4: like this thing could go sideways kind of a crossroads

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Speaker 4: right now, Like that's really not the conversation. But I

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Speaker 4: do think that there is a I think the Ravens

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Speaker 4: feel like they beat themselves these first two games, and

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Speaker 4: so you need to clean up the small details, the

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Speaker 4: fundamental things, the penalties of missing, like the small things

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Speaker 4: that have cost them these first two games, and like

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Speaker 4: there is an attention to that detail without a real

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Speaker 4: focus on that, without a sense of like this saint,

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Speaker 4: we're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: We're in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Like that's not the vibe that I would describe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because you know, you often hear playlayers

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Speaker 1: talk about when I'm not thinking, when I'm just playing,

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Speaker 1: that's when I play my best. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: right now, there's this attitude of like, all right, we

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Speaker 1: have to be very intentional about everything, right, and so

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Speaker 1: like walking that line is a difficult one, right, Like

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Speaker 1: you got to be every snap, very intentional, think about

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Speaker 1: what your assignment is. I can't make I can't fall

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Speaker 1: start being very intentional about that without like getting tight.

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Speaker 2: And that's the challenge.

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Speaker 1: I was encouraged by the fact that Lamar Jackson also

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Speaker 1: said he thought they had one of their very best

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Speaker 1: practices of the season on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, like fans don't really think about

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Speaker 1: practice over the course of the season, right, Like we

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Speaker 1: talk about practice all the time in training camp, right.

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Speaker 1: But and certainly practices are later, you know, during the

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Speaker 1: season as they protect players' bodies. But the sharpness, the

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Speaker 1: attention to detail, just whether those plays are hitting and

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Speaker 1: practice and connecting and everybody's communicating, and just the sharpness

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Speaker 1: I think is something that players notice in practice and

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Speaker 1: it matters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And like Lamar Jackson said, it's like practice makes perfect, right.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have been very not perfect so far this

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Speaker 1: season in their execution and all those small details that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. If you get those things right in practice,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a belief and a trust that you're

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Speaker 1: going to get them right in the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Zay Flowers was asked like about Lamar's comment of

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Speaker 4: this was the best practice yet, So what made it

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Speaker 4: that way? And Zay pointed to communication. He just said,

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Speaker 4: like super attentive on the communication front in practice, and

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Speaker 4: that that is what felt different in this in this practice.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's good.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that like, does that translate as

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Speaker 4: a Wednesday practicate practice translate to success on the field.

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Speaker 1: You can't chalk up with ads on a Wednesday after

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Speaker 3: Correct, But I think that like the signs are encouraging.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the other thing I would say

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Speaker 4: too is and I think that this is this has

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the.

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Speaker 4: Ravens really fracture when their backs are against the wall.

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Speaker 4: I think that John Harbaugh does a great job of

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Speaker 4: keeping the team unified and setting setting the tone and

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Speaker 4: the message in the mindset in that sense, and I

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Speaker 4: just you see it for teams around the league where

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Speaker 4: you've got guys sniping at each other or a fracture

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Speaker 4: that exists, that's really never been the culture or the

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Speaker 4: attitude or the fabric of the Ravens organization. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's definitely true right now.

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Speaker 1: John Harball is right now taking a lot of heat

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Speaker 1: in with fans that you see, you know, especially after

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Speaker 1: the challenges, the two mischallenges this past week. I think

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Speaker 1: that circumstances like this is where you see John at

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Speaker 1: his best, Like he is a master at kind of

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Speaker 1: navigating these turbulent waters. Yeah, that every team goes through.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have been through this many times, have we.

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Speaker 1: As we've discussed even last season after the loss of

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Speaker 1: the Colts at the loss in Pittsburgh and you're going

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Speaker 1: to London and those were bad losses. Yeah, back in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when they were also the best team in

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Speaker 2: It was not a great start.

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Speaker 3: That year, two and two after the first month, right.

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Speaker 1: So this is really when I see, you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: whatever you believe about John Harball, I can tell you

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Speaker 1: from being in this building for fifteen plus years, John's

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Speaker 1: a really good coach, and especially I think that this

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Speaker 1: is his strength managing this kind of time.

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Speaker 3: Well, we talked with Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 4: We had him on the podcast yesterday and you should

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Speaker 4: go back and check that out if you haven't listened yet,

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Speaker 4: and he talked a little bit about the turbulence last

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Speaker 4: year after that Steelers loss and then the game in

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Speaker 4: London and how that was kind of a unifying Again,

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Speaker 4: we were there in London last year and it was

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Speaker 4: not like the conversation felt similar. It felt similar around

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Speaker 4: this team. Now they weren't zero and two and so

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Speaker 4: that's what's different. But like it just felt like, man,

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Speaker 4: this team's not going anywhere. They blow too many games.

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Speaker 4: That's not this is this team's nothing special. That was

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Speaker 4: like what the fan base felt and was saying at

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Speaker 4: that time after losing a game that everyone felt like

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Speaker 4: got to win, and then they rotted off a whole

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Speaker 4: you know, as Mark Andrew's talk to us about like

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Speaker 4: it's up to the Ravens where they take it from here,

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Speaker 4: you know that nothing's guaranteed. But I think that I

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Speaker 4: to write the ship and that could potentially start this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this week, this week in the locker room, I

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Speaker 1: think the one definite theme was we have a good

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Speaker 1: team that hasn't changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we still have a very good team.

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Speaker 3: Now one of the things that.

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Speaker 1: And also let me just point out there's an interesting

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Speaker 1: look at like I think it was Aaron Schatz like

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Speaker 1: looked at the anomalies that happened in this Ravens Raiders

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Speaker 1: games like it was one of the flukiest wins period,

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Speaker 1: Like there were a lot of weird anomalies. Like when

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Speaker 1: Like it was a it was a weird one.

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Speaker 4: It was, And I think honestly that goes back to

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Speaker 4: the small details and the execution of things that you

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Speaker 3: And I think one big talk another kind of.

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Speaker 4: Talking point this week was like the offensive identity and

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Speaker 4: the Ravens, are you still trying to find that you've

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Speaker 4: added Derek Kennon to the equation? Through two games, there's

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Speaker 4: I think the Ravens are still trying to kind of

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Speaker 4: figure out exactly how he works into this offense and

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Speaker 4: how they use him. What is your take on what

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Speaker 4: the offensive identity is and what it will become for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think identity often gets misconstrued too much with

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Speaker 1: run pass balance like that those and that that is

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Speaker 1: what your identity means. And I think that that can

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Speaker 1: certainly be a part of it. Right, you knew what

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Speaker 1: off of that. That's not how Todd Munkin operates, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: got to establish the run first and then work off

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Speaker 1: like you want to be a balanced offense. That's the

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Speaker 1: best kind of offense to be. I think that when

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Speaker 1: John says, you know, we need to establish an identity,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of a feeling that's, uh, we're gonna be physical,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna be really a kind of dominant

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Speaker 1: So I yeah, I guess I I'm really torn on that, Like,

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Speaker 1: what what do you think the Ravens offensive identity should be?

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Speaker 2: Should they just run the ball time with Derrick Henry?

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Speaker 4: I think I think that the Raves offensive identity is

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Speaker 4: is Lamar Jackson exactly and exactly and like and then

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Speaker 4: everything operates off of that, like and so. But I

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Speaker 4: think that's what their offensive identity was last year too.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Gus Edwards had like fifteen touchdowns last year,

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Speaker 4: you know, so, so they still ran the ball with

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Speaker 4: success outside of Lamar, but it all starts obviously with him.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's components to it, right, Like I think

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Speaker 1: their offensive identity is is a lot of two tight

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Speaker 1: end play action should be a heavy part of their identity, right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's getting Lamar out on the edges and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, creative plays with him. Not creative in terms

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Speaker 1: is what I'm looking for, you know, when Lamar escapes

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the Ravens identity is going to

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Speaker 1: stuff like that's not really their identity. They need to

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Speaker 1: They want to work off of the run. They want

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Speaker 1: to work off of that stuff and being physical, they

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Speaker 1: want to be get those tight ends heavily involved. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that it's it's okay, we need

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Speaker 1: to just run Derrick Henry into a wall to prove

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Speaker 1: a point that we're a run heavy team and we're

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Speaker 2: Be physical with you.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, the offensive line isn't blocking to you know,

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Speaker 1: you also work your identity off of your your personnel.

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Speaker 1: Now sure a running a run game and play action

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Speaker 1: or things that are going to help that that offensive line, right,

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Speaker 1: so you're not just pass blocking all the time. I

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Speaker 1: don't really want my guys doing that the whole game either,

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Speaker 1: But I don't I don't think that they're blocking well

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, part of the Ravens identity has been dominating

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Speaker 4: biggest thing I would point to. I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, totally.

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Speaker 4: The I generally agree with that, but the you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like there was no call and so yeah, that

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Speaker 1: I would certainly think so. I'm sure he would say whatever.

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Speaker 1: Like I think they have some questions on their defensive

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've had trouble stopping the run, and so if

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Speaker 1: I think there's an underlying storyline here of you know,

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Speaker 2: They invested heavily in the offensive line too.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know that I don't compare the two,

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Speaker 4: He finished with eighty four.

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Speaker 4: I think that this is going to be his first

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Speaker 4: I think that he's going to get over one hundred

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Speaker 3: A game which would be his third straight game doing so.

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Speaker 4: There were some notable players absent from practice on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: None of these.

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Speaker 1: but I don't like the fact that he's dealing with something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Another note that I'll put out there, I think Adisa

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Speaker 1: Isaac was a full practice participant on Wednesday, the rookie

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Speaker 1: third round pick. You know, I liked it when he

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Speaker 1: was on the field in the preseason he flashed a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Now this these edge rushers are playing well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many defensive snaps he'd really get

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Speaker 1: in this rotation right now with a Dafeoway, Kyle van Noy,

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Speaker 1: who you know, he didn't practice Wednesday because of his eye,

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Speaker 1: but I would certainly aspect he's gonna play. He played

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and then David Jabe is playing well. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many snaps he get, but it's a

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Speaker 1: good sign that he's back to full participation after being

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Speaker 1: limited all last week, so we could see his debut

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Speaker 1: potentially in Dallas. So yeah, I'm not I'm not overly

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Speaker 1: concerned with the Ravens injury situation right now.

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Speaker 4: It's all longer list, Like when we tweet out the

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Speaker 4: graphic that has the names and people start getting concerned

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Speaker 4: when it's you know, you're looking at five, six, seven,

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Speaker 4: eight names that end up on the list. But it

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Speaker 4: does not sound like based on what John Harbal has said,

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Speaker 4: that there's cause for concern really on any of them.

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Speaker 1: With the Cowboys, Ceedee Lamb sat out practice on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but same thing that people will expect that he's going

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Speaker 1: to play and then they're tight end Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 2: He's a good player.

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Speaker 1: He returned to the practice field on Wednesday after missing

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Speaker 1: last week's game. So things are looking positive on that

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Speaker 1: front for Dallas.

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Speaker 4: So we'll take a break and then we come back.

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Speaker 4: We'll dive into some more conversation around this game. You're

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Speaker 4: So these are two hungry teams. The Cowboys are coming off,

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Speaker 4: you know, a loss that they certainly left a sour taste.

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Speaker 3: In their mouth where they got blown out at home against.

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Speaker 4: AT and the Ravens are are zero two, as we

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Speaker 4: spend time talking about. So you can, I think if

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Speaker 4: you if you read the press clippings in both markets,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of back against the walt off for

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Speaker 4: both these teams.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas is a talented team, one of the

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Speaker 1: as was one of the top teams in the league

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Speaker 1: last year and expects to be so once again. And

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Speaker 1: so they had not lost at AT and T Stadium

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Speaker 1: in a while and certainly not like that, and so

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Speaker 1: that was that was a humbling one for them. I

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Speaker 1: am quite confident that they're gonna one want to bounce

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Speaker 1: back against the Ravens in this one. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Ravens are in a tougher spot than

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Speaker 1: Dallas is right now, they're one game behind, and so

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Speaker 1: I do think that you're gonna get two hungry teams

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Speaker 1: it's a national stage that most of the country is

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Speaker 1: going to be watching. You have Tom Brady is going

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Speaker 1: to be up in the booth call in this game.

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Speaker 1: You have Foxes a a crew. You know this this

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Speaker 1: is a really big game. I think Brant of Good

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Speaker 1: Morning Football called it. You know, this could be one

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Speaker 1: of the best games of the year. He's looking at

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Speaker 1: a very high scoring game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyle, really, He broke down like this could be

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Speaker 4: a forty two forty type.

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Speaker 2: Game back and something. I don't see the Ravens defense

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Speaker 2: given up.

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Speaker 1: I know the Ravens defense is you know, the secondary

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Speaker 1: has been struggling, but I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 4: He compared it to the Rams and the Chiefs game

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Speaker 4: a Monday night game a few years ago that kind

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Speaker 4: of had everybody buzzing at the time. That was like

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Speaker 4: one of those to both teams in the forties and

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Speaker 4: whoever has the ball last wins kind of a game.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't see the fun except for everybody

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Speaker 2: on defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's it's great for the fans, but the

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Speaker 3: defense not so much.

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Speaker 4: I don't see that. But I think it could be

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Speaker 4: a really competitive game. I actually think it might be

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Speaker 4: I think I think I see it, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I see it as a lower scoring game. I think

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Speaker 4: that as we talked about with the running game, like,

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Speaker 4: I think that the Ravens could shorten the game with

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Speaker 4: the running attack, and so you're not just going to

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Speaker 4: have this many possessions to go back and forth. But

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Speaker 4: you know, from from an enjoyment standpoint, I think that

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Speaker 4: the potential is all there, and I am excited to

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Speaker 4: see Tom Brady call Lamar Jackson game. You know, Tom

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Speaker 4: Brady when he retired was pretty effusive in praise of

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and posting things on social media about how

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Speaker 4: he's next. And Lamar Jackson has certainly been incredibly complimentary

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Speaker 4: of Tom Brady throughout his career, called him the goat.

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Speaker 4: Basically whenever his name gets brought up, he just calls

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Speaker 4: him the goat. Yeah, immediate immediate reaction there. And I

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Speaker 4: think that those two guys have a ton of respect

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Speaker 4: for each other. And it'll be I'll be curious to

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Speaker 4: hear what Brady says during the game about his assessment

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Speaker 4: of Lamar in this offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will. I will be also.

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Speaker 1: For the Ravens, I think a lot of this starts

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Speaker 1: up front again on the offensive line, and you can't

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Speaker 1: you can't have a repeat of what Max Crosby did

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Speaker 1: except with Micah Parsons, right, Like, that can't happen because

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby kind of wrecked the game for the Ravens offense.

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Speaker 1: And and uh, Michael Parsons is certainly capable of that

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Speaker 1: different kind of player, but just as good, if not

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Speaker 1: better than Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, like, but by the end of the season, you

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Speaker 4: could be talking about if you're doing the defensive Player

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Speaker 4: of the Year conversation, Like there's probably two of the

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Speaker 4: top five guys that end up in that in that debate.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And one thing I thought that that Michael Parsons said

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Speaker 4: that was kind of interesting is that he talked about

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Speaker 4: the potential of being a spy. He said on his podcast,

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Speaker 4: and he could potentially spy Lamar Jackson go ahead sign

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Speaker 4: just because it takes him away as a pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: He's not he's not running at him, he's not pass

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Speaker 2: rushing them. Five.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I think there's mayor's merit to that, but he

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Speaker 4: that will be Michael Parsons to your point, like has

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Speaker 4: game wrecking potential and the first two games, Chris Jones

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Speaker 4: then Max Crosby, those were the two defensive stars and

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Speaker 4: both of them came up with game changing place and

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Speaker 4: so you just can't have the same with Parsons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's been allowed to talk obviously all

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Speaker 1: week about is there a possibility that Ravens can make

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Speaker 1: some changes on their offensive line, particularly at right guard?

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Speaker 1: Does Bank Cleveland enter a rotation with Daniel fole Lele,

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Speaker 1: Do you make.

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Speaker 2: Any other changes?

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Speaker 1: Does Roger Rosengarten take a higher percentage of the snaps

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Speaker 1: at right tackle after he had a very strong game,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I wouldn't rule that out, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's doubtful. Based on what John Harball said in

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Speaker 1: his Monday press conference, you know, he was pretty clear

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Speaker 1: that their evaluation is that at least coming out of

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Speaker 1: training camp, that Daniel fol Lele beat out Bank.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland for the job and and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, he won anybody else, he won the job,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, obviously they continue to evaluate that

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Speaker 1: during the season. If things are so bad that they

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Speaker 1: have to make a change, then you have to make

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Speaker 1: a change if you think the other option is going

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Speaker 1: to be better, right, and I'll say, you know, Daniel

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Speaker 1: foul Alele when you look at the Pro Football Focus grades,

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Speaker 1: and you know, fans love to trumpet the PFF grades

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Speaker 1: when they're you know, in the Ravens favor, but when

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Speaker 1: they show that when the fans decide that a player

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Speaker 1: is no good in the PFF grades show otherwise they're

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Speaker 1: like PFF's trapped.

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Speaker 2: But like the.

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Speaker 1: PFF grades show that Daniel fole is certainly not you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not one of the top guards, but he's There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of players, a lot of starting guards right

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Speaker 1: now that are worse have played worse than Daniel Foalle,

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Speaker 1: And so maybe that's the way the Ravens are looking

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Speaker 1: at it too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, regardless of who's that right guard, you gotta block,

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Speaker 4: you gotta like that's where it starts. That's right, Like,

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Speaker 4: that's what you're talking about their defense. It starts with

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Speaker 4: Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: And in interesting Ravens did commit more extra blockers to

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Speaker 1: trying to stop I know there were a number one

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Speaker 1: on one situations that like where Max Crosby won and

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Speaker 1: wrecked it. But you look at the next gen stats,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens did and Tom Lonkan dig commit extra blockers

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Speaker 1: to trying to stop Max Crosby. Will they do that

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Speaker 1: again against Michael Parsons. Will they use pat Ricard even

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Speaker 1: more as an edge blocker. I think that's a possibility.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Another fun thing about Michael Parsons, he was college teammates

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Speaker 4: with a Dafaeoway exactly.

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Speaker 2: They roommates.

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Speaker 3: They were boys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very tight.

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Speaker 1: And those are two athletic freaks that were trying to

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Speaker 1: always one up each other.

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Speaker 2: And this is.

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Speaker 1: Their first time ever, the first time since college, being

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Speaker 1: on the same.

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Speaker 2: Field with each other.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Michael Parsons has certainly gotten off to

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Speaker 1: a faster start in his NFL career. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: was a unanimous defensive Rookie of the Year back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and so he's gotten the athletes. He

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Speaker 1: was instantly recognized as one of the best defensive players

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Speaker 1: in the league. Really since he's stepped on the field,

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Speaker 1: it's been a slower go for Dafayoa, as we all know.

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Speaker 1: But hey, you look at the SAC column right now,

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Speaker 1: who's ahead Dafaeoway and a half is one and a

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Speaker 1: half and uh, you know, I think Odafe is catching up.

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Speaker 2: Right like it was a little bit. He needed a

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Speaker 2: little bit more time.

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Speaker 1: But can he get at that level, Like, can he

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Speaker 1: put up comparable production to Michael Parsons, It would be

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Speaker 1: a big, big, big year. But he's looking pretty darn

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Speaker 1: good so far, and so I think that there. You know,

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Speaker 1: Odape hasn't beaten his college buddy in a while, right

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Speaker 1: in the court of public opinion.

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Speaker 2: He's looking to beat him on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Well, that would be big for OA, you know, if

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Speaker 4: he were to, if he were to put up a

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Speaker 4: game like he had against the Raiders, I mean, that

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Speaker 4: would that would help.

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Speaker 1: Now the thing that's gonna she's get. The more he

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Speaker 1: does that, the more attention he's gonna get. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons's people have known who Michael Parsons's name is,

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Speaker 1: they've known him for a while now, and he's continued

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Speaker 1: to put up production.

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Speaker 2: That'll be the next step for a dafe.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying like, oh, you have won

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Speaker 1: two and a half sack game and all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you're getting doubled on every play. That's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen. But the more he continues this, the more

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Speaker 1: attention he's going.

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Speaker 4: To get, which fine by me, because then you take

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Speaker 4: a blocker off of non de Madabikee or Kyle Vann

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Speaker 4: always coming around the other side, who he had two

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Speaker 4: sacks last year. Like, I think that the Raves up front,

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Speaker 4: if offenses are going to pay extra attention to one

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Speaker 4: guy in particular, really any of them, then that's going

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Speaker 4: to create an opportunity for one one on one matchup.

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Speaker 4: And I think the Ravens had a lot of players

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Speaker 4: you can win tho one on ones.

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Speaker 1: Like Mark Andrews like to say, it's pick your poison

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Speaker 1: to this defensive line as well.

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Speaker 3: I really think it is. Yeah, oh way, you know,

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Speaker 3: he talked.

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Speaker 4: With the media this week, and you know I think that, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that he is he is He's been on

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Speaker 4: an upward trajectory. I think that this game was was

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Speaker 4: a big step against the Raiders, and I think that

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Speaker 4: the key for him, as he talked about, is just

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Speaker 4: going to be maintaining that consistency. And I do think

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Speaker 4: it would mean a lot for him to personally to

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Speaker 4: beat his college buddy and to have a big game

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Speaker 4: in the process.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Then the last note for us uh as

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Speaker 2: we preview this.

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Speaker 1: Game, I mean ceedee Lamb, right, one of the best

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Speaker 1: offensive players in the League's there's just so many storylines

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Speaker 1: that are similar to the Raiders week going into that game.

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Speaker 1: You can't let their their star pass rusher wreck year

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Speaker 1: offensive line and they have the stud wide receiver that

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Speaker 1: you can't you know, give up big plays too, and

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams got too many.

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Speaker 2: He made he made his place, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean this ate This most shocking thing about the

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Speaker 1: Ravens starts of the season so far has been their

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Speaker 1: secondary is last in the league. Yeah, this secondary that

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about this offseason being one.

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Speaker 2: Of the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: The Brandon Stevens friend of Lounge, came on and talked

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Speaker 1: about that's kind of one of the goals. Is one

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Speaker 1: of the best Ravens secondaries of all time. Thirty second

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Speaker 1: in the rankings is certainly not indicative of that, right,

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Speaker 1: And this secondary I think has a point to prove

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Speaker 1: against Ceedee Lamb, one of the best wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: the game and Dak Prescott, who, by the way, just

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Speaker 1: got a massive contract extension from the Cowboys, and it

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Speaker 1: is you know, he completes a lot of passes for

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Speaker 1: a lot of yards.

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Speaker 2: He puts up the stats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know they they have their work cutout

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Speaker 1: for him against this Dallas passing attack.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean Dak Prescott last year, you know,

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Speaker 4: he was he was probably ahead of Lamar on the

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Speaker 4: MVP conversation until later in the year when Lamar really

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Speaker 4: took took the obviously the pole position in that race.

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Speaker 4: And so he's a guy that has put up massive,

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Speaker 4: massive numbers, especially the regular season, and that connection between

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Speaker 4: him and Ceedee Lamb is is excellent. So the Ravens

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Speaker 4: are going to have their hands full with Dak and

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Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb. I mean, I think that that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a that's gonna be a challenge for the secondary. And

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Speaker 4: you know the Cowboys, like you mentioned, I mean, they

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Speaker 4: just gave Dak that contract to make him the highest

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Speaker 4: paid player in NFL history. You know, that's how it

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Speaker 4: goes for quarterbacks. So that offense is potent and the

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Speaker 4: secondary is going to have a big test in front

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Speaker 4: of him.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned Jake Ferguson the Cowboys tight end is

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Speaker 1: another player that's uh. You know they have Brandon Cook's

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Speaker 1: opposite Seedee Lamb. But you got to keep your eye

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Speaker 1: on Jake Ferguson because he's a very trusted target of

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's and kind of like brock Bowers. Last week,

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Speaker 1: brock Bowers changed that game. Without brock Bowers on the field,

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens beat the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: He was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jake Ferguson is kind of cut from the

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Speaker 1: same cloth.

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Speaker 4: So that game is coming up on Sunday four thirty pm. Again,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be Tom Brady who's gonna be on that

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Speaker 4: call for Fox, so it should be fun. And then

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Speaker 4: of course after the game, we're gonna be We're gonna

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Speaker 4: do our instant Reaction podcast. It'll be in your feed

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Speaker 4: Sunday night Monday morning. It'd be nice to be talking

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Speaker 4: about Oh win.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go too big because we just need

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Speaker 2: to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's big, care if it's a

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Speaker 2: small one. I don't care. That was nice. That was

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Speaker 2: a nice tea. I don't care what size the win is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, emotionally it would be big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, score on. I don't care. We just need a win.

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Speaker 1: Just win baby. We'll be back with you on Sunday