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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast, Little Weekend Middlecoff Mailbag, not a rattle off,

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Speaker 1: Question for the three and out big time Dolphins fan,

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Speaker 1: front office would have to be insane to go into

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Speaker 1: bringing competition. I wanted him to see never way possible,

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Speaker 1: but last season was extremely hard to watch after going

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Speaker 1: eight and three. Lastly, just a message and not for

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Speaker 1: the pod three years later, sending my first DM for

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Speaker 1: the pods. Love the content, really change the way look.

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Speaker 1: Hope you bring back the golf pods soon it's coming

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Speaker 1: back in a couple of weeks. I know it's early

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Speaker 1: the season, but I love your takes on the PGA.

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Speaker 1: We got the golf podcast starting after Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm also gonna do some golf stuff non pod,

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Speaker 1: probably on my YouTube channel. Just my name John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: reactions if I'm watching for that given day, but appreciate

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Speaker 1: just gotta do it. I would say, Tom Brady, you

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