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Speaker 1: my book is about the red flags. They want to

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Speaker 1: how to detect behaviors that are and are not typical

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Speaker 1: stranger or a relative. And then, like you said, all

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Speaker 1: we've been an abundance of caution to report it rather

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Speaker 1: than simply assume, Oh, I guess maybe it's just relatives,

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Speaker 1: or I don't want to get involved. That last piece,

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Speaker 1: you and I, as prosecutors know sometimes police to these

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Speaker 1: kinds of tips being overlooked and unreported. Jallo, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: years Metro Major k SWAT officer now lawyer, shall not

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Speaker 1: lawfirm dot com. Did you hear what mister freet said?

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Speaker 1: At this spot where Alliana was to change buses to

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Speaker 1: get to school, there were abandoned houses. Abandoned houses, that

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Speaker 1: is a recipe for disaster. That's a playpen for criminals.

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Speaker 1: Abandoned houses where children change routes to school. Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: How many times have you and I you investigating me,

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Speaker 1: prosecuting seeing crimes go down in abandoned houses. I can't

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Speaker 1: even count them all. And here it is on a

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Speaker 1: school bus route, oh frequently. You know, my question is

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Speaker 1: where is the government, that's the local government in that situation.

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Speaker 1: You know that those kids are kidding on a bus there.

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Speaker 1: You know what goes on at abandoned houses. You know

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Speaker 1: as as as mister Friest described, this is a high

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Speaker 1: crime area. This is a perfect recipe for disaster. And

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened to you. I want to go

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Speaker 1: back to the parents of Alliana de Freeze. I mean,

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Speaker 1: one thing after the next, after the next, there's no

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Speaker 1: control over these abandoned houses. At a bus stop where

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Speaker 1: children change school bus routes, the registers sex offender walking

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Speaker 1: free that closed to a school, the school not alerting

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Speaker 1: you when Aliana didn't make it, the tutor not alerting

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Speaker 1: you when Aliana didn't make it, the head start of

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Speaker 1: twelve hours I mean at all, all combines, it's a

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Speaker 1: perfect storm for disaster, mister DeFreeze. When you look at

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Speaker 1: all of these things in conjunction combined, it's Aliana didn't

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Speaker 1: have a chance, mister DeFreeze. Basically, she didn't. This is

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Speaker 1: this is something that we fight with here, fight for.

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Speaker 1: Should I say here at the Aliana defrieses make a

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Speaker 1: change foundation. We've tires. We went back and forth with

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Speaker 1: city Hall here in Cleveland about these abandoned structures around

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Speaker 1: our city. We have had a few removed at our

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Speaker 1: pace and at our liking, but we have got the

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Speaker 1: tension of Mayor Frank Jackson and others. There have been

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Speaker 1: getting buildings removed, but it's not at the pace we

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Speaker 1: would like. There's still crime, criminal activity taking place in

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Speaker 1: these buildings, and children are still being found in these

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Speaker 1: buildings as we speak. There was a body found a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago in the abandoned house. There wasn't

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a child, But there was a body found

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Speaker 1: an abandoned home two days ago. Again, people on the moon,

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Speaker 1: a telescope on Mars, but we can't get this straight

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Speaker 1: in our own backyard, guys. We worked tirelessly and we

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Speaker 1: started with the story of Aliana de Frieze in Don't

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Speaker 1: be a victim fighting Back against America A crime Waves.

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Speaker 1: This is for you. This book is for you. The

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Speaker 1: Defriezes are taking their pain and they have created the

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Speaker 1: Aliana Defrieze Foundation for you. Mark Klass. The very first

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Speaker 1: tip I give in chapter one regarding your child's safe

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Speaker 1: at school, bus crossings, routes, on the routes home from

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Speaker 1: school is instruct your child's school to call and test

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Speaker 1: you immediately if you're a childless absence, and then insist

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Speaker 1: that they follow through. You know a lot of times

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Speaker 1: I pick up other children, I pick up the twins,

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Speaker 1: and I write all the teachers, I write to school emails.

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Speaker 1: I'm picking up so and so. Do you know how

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Speaker 1: many times nothing happens the other parent is not told.

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Speaker 1: I now include the other parent on there. But the

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Speaker 1: right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

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Speaker 1: I got pages one, two, three, four, five pages of

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Speaker 1: tips on this alone for parents with children that walk

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Speaker 1: to a bus stop or walk to school and home.

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Speaker 1: Some of the most important ones I think is to

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Speaker 1: practice the route with your child. Walk the route, just

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Speaker 1: don't say walk to the bus stop. Have fun see

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Speaker 1: it at three. No, walk the route with them if

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Speaker 1: you can. If you can, if you're already at work,

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Speaker 1: like my parents were, we walked with a group as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, mark class, or practice the route with your child.

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Speaker 1: Practice the route home with your child. Have a safety route,

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Speaker 1: which means if a car comes up to you while

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Speaker 1: you're walking, find a route that's off the street, Go

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Speaker 1: in somebody's backyard and go as the crow flies home.

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Speaker 1: Don't just tell your kid to do it, practice it

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Speaker 1: with them. Practice for them to always go in the

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Speaker 1: direction opposite to where the car is headed, because the

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Speaker 1: car is gonna have to turn around to come after them.

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Speaker 1: That's important. Time and find a safe house if there

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Speaker 1: is one, a neighbor at home that your child can

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Speaker 1: run to if you're not home. It's so important. What

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Speaker 1: can you tell me about safety at school, bus stops,

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Speaker 1: routes to school, and routes to the bus stop, Mark class.

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Speaker 1: What can we can we tell people to help them? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's what I would tell people. I mean, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about systemic failure from the top to the bottom. But

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Speaker 1: there's an eight hundred pound gorilla in the room that

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Speaker 1: hasn't been mentioned, and that's a failed criminal justice system

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Speaker 1: that would allow somebody like Christopher Whittaker to be on

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Speaker 1: the street in the first place. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: that's got a criminal history that extends back years and

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Speaker 1: involves grand theft, burglary, aggravated robbery, felonious assault, and sexual battery.

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Speaker 1: And you're telling me this character is allowed to walk

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Speaker 1: the streets, allowed to walk the streets unsupervised and get

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Speaker 1: his hands on young children. That's why all of these

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Speaker 1: other factors are so important. Why we have to ensure

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Speaker 1: that our routes are safe for our children when they're

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Speaker 1: going to and from school, and that we are able

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Speaker 1: to somehow get control over this system, because quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: I truly believe government is not protecting us or more importantly,

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Speaker 1: our kids. A few other chips I've come up with

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Speaker 1: that I've amassed over time from other cases. Don't have

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Speaker 1: your child's belongings monogrammed or their name. For a stranger

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Speaker 1: to call out to your child Aliyana, the child might

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Speaker 1: come over to the car thinking you know, the family,

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Speaker 1: get the child to the bus stop ten minutes early.

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Speaker 1: You don't want the bus to have already gone and

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Speaker 1: they're standing there all alone and if you pick your

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Speaker 1: child up from the bus stop, get there early. Take

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Speaker 1: your child to the bus stop if you can, If

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Speaker 1: you can't, have them walk in a group. Walk the

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Speaker 1: route with your child before they walk it alone, and

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Speaker 1: struct your child. Don't be engrossed with games your devices

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Speaker 1: like smartphones. Be aware of what's going on. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've got so many tips to help your child that

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Speaker 1: could save their life. As I mentioned earlier, this book

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Speaker 1: is for you. My proceeds are going to help find

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Speaker 1: missing children. Don't be a victim. Fighting back against America's

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Speaker 1: crime way. Chapter one, Your Child Safe. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank what Tanya DeFries and Damon DeFries who are taking

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Speaker 1: their pain and they're suffering and turning it into something

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Speaker 1: to help you. At the alley on It's Foundation dot com.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for being with us. Nancy Grace hunting up.

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Speaker 1: Good bye friend