WEBVTT - Ep 220 - Find You a Friend Like Mandi 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:21.640 Hey, hey, Hey. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.720 We're black, We're brown ambition. I feel like I missed 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.120 a step. Damn it, We're we're black, We're back. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:27.560 We're brown ambition. You know what it is? 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.560 Hey, mandra hello, our lives matter. If you guys didn't 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.560 get the memo. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.480 Yes, woo child, it has been all. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.400 I realized it sounds like I said all, not all. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.200 No, yes, are you're just saying, oh, listen. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.440 How many folks have I had to correct? I can't 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.159 believe that has shake stool lives on? But yeah, how 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.519 are you doing? It has been a week since our 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.320 last show, which was it was a doozy. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:54.760 It was a doozy. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.840 I'm feeling, honestly, much much better and lighter because for 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.440 two weeks it was definitely heavy, heavy, heavy. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:02.800 But yeah, I'm much. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.840 Better and lighter just because I also see I see movement, 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.840 I see improvement, and so I think that's just giving me, like, 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.679 you know, just a little dose of hope and happiness. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.839 So I love that I was feeling that way. I listened. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.840 I never really listened to our shows, but this one 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.959 I actually forgot. It was just we were so emotional 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.400 and so raw that I just could not remember what 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.840 I said, and then people started It started to get 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.720 a lot of traction. People were listening to it, and 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.520 I was getting messages thank you for saying. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:30.960 X y Z, and I'm like, what did I say 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:31.440 on the show? 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.560 People at my job were sharing it, and I'm like, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.120 oh man, what did I say about? But I did 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.160 sound kind of upbeat, and I did spend the weekend 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.640 like Friday. It just felt like, you know, just a 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.840 collective sigh and it doesn't feel like days have any 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.400 significance anymore. But Friday did feel like, thank God, the 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.680 week is over and let's just go into the weekend and. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.680 Try and restore. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.440 And I know for many people they were out in 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.320 the streets and they were marching and or protesting. I 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.720 still haven't gone out there, but I think I'm running 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.720 out of I'm running. I think I'm going to I 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.280 want to find a way to actually go out and 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.519 protest in a way that is safe. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.280 But I see people out there with their. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.119 Kids, and it just feels like it's such a big 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.560 moment that yes, there's lots of things you can do 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.960 behind the scene, and marching isn't everything, but it also 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.240 feels like the physical nature of it like moving your 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.080 legs toward hopefully a better future. It just seems significant 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.400 and I don't want to I don't want to miss that, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.720 but I agree, like I heard myself on the show 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.160 and I felt optimistic then, and I was trying to 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.320 articulate it. And it feels sort of like when you 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:41.160 have been carrying your groceries down the streets in Manhattan 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.520 because you're, you know, twenty two, when you just moved 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.560 here and you can't afford a taxi and you're just 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.400 lugging and you're like, why did I get that bottle 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.480 of you know, really heavy juice and your arms are 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.200 aching and then a lovely stranger comes and shares a 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.120 load with you. That is kind of what it has 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:01.200 felt like, because something's different in time. It's just it's 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.480 the symphony of voices that are around. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.400 It is. It sounds corny and cheesy, but I don't care. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:06.799 It is. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.000 It is all the voices lifting up. People are sharing 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.000 the pain. They may not understand it, but they're starting 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.440 to empathize. They're they're trying to empathize, and they're stumbling 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.040 along the way, but people are trying. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.960 And this is it, This is it. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.080 Feels like a turning point because it could never just 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.359 be our voices, you know, it had to hit in mainstream, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:28.880 you know. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.079 You know what's so crazy is that I had normalized 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.520 the abuse in my head. You know, like when I 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.680 was thinking, like I was, like, I think I mentioned 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.000 last week how I said I was going to have, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.000 you know, like a white friend be the person for 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.720 the the not the insurance suggester, the appraiser there was 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.160 going to come to my house. And because I was 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.160 afraid that I know, historically black homes are under appraised, 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.280 which affects black wealth. And so I had normalize things 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.840 like that, like oh yeah, I'll just get to you know, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.360 I'll just get a white friend to be me while, 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:04.680 you know, so that way the appraise or thinks a 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.160 white person lives here and it will give me a 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:06.760 fair chance. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.400 There are there are adjustments. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.160 That black folks make daily that you realize that you're 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.200 you're normal. You normalize the abuse of racism where you're 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.080 just like, oh yeah, well, like someone said, like for example, 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.119 you go into a store and you don't touch anything 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.280 unless you're gonna buy it, because you know that if 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.640 you touch something people there's a very high likelihood someone's 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.440 going to think that you're trying to steal, so you're 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.559 only touching like what you're going to buy, like those 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.880 types of things that you don't realize that you start 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.800 to normalize that like other people don't have to navigate 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.240 in that way. And so I think what what all 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.000 of this brought up for me was that like, wow, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.320 how much of these things that I had normalized that 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.359 should not be normal that had let kind of like slide. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.920 So that's there was this rage. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.359 And this anger and this sadness and this frustration that 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.279 built up because I realized, like, wow, there's so many 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.760 adjustments that I make because I know quote unquote what 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.320 I look like. You know what it would look like 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.000 because it's me. And so I think that's what a 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.800 lot of people were also feeling too. It was the 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.679 anger of what was happening externally, what you could see, 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.240 but it was also the anger of what you realized 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.400 that has been happening to you for so many years 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.360 and you're just like, wait, what is. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:25.240 How life has been? 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.560 And so yeah, it was just like I said, I 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.320 feel in a much better space and place because I 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.880 see some movement, I see some it's so crazy because 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.320 I of the three founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.360 I know two of them really well, like Opole that's 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.160 my girl, and Patrise that's my girl as well. I've 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.640 traveled with Patrice to Australia when she got the city well, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.440 when Black Lives Matter was awarded the Sydney's Peace Prize. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.400 And Opole and nine have hung out a number of times. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.440 And so I just so it's crazy to like see 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.040 from their perspective all the work that they've been doing 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.360 and to see it come to fruition like this, just 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.400 like it's just been a crazy. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.000 Just up and down and up and down. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.760 But to your point, Mandy, I this time feels different because. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.359 It's not just black voices that I'm. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.200 Seeing and hearing calling out for change, which is like, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.120 so it feels so good that it's not just black voices. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:19.720 Right, I mean. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.599 And the reason that we need more than black voices 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.400 is part of the problem too, because people don't really 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.520 take things seriously often until they hear it from someone 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.240 who looks like them, and most people in power don't 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.039 look like us. So that is why it's so crucial. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.800 And I mean, and I give people a lot of credit. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.680 I mean, here's the thing. My little brother was kind 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.640 of going through this, and he was we were talking 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.400 about it. There's this you know how you feel when 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.479 all of a sudden people love your favorite artists, but 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.720 they've been underground for a while, and all of a 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.680 sudden it's mainstream and you're a little. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.760 Bit like, oh, well, I knew her or him when. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.000 You know they were just like on the street, busking, 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:58.520 you know, to make ends meet or whatever. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:06:59.799 I've been a fan for a long time. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:05.040 Among some people who have been vocal with the BLM movement, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.120 there is a sense of like, why now, you know, why. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.560 Where were you? 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.280 You know, hundreds of deaths ago, you know, where were 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.280 you at treyvon Martin, Where were you at Sandra Bland? 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.200 Where were you at Philando Castile? You know all these opportunities? 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:23.640 Why what makes this one different? And I really and 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.880 I understand it. I get it because and we can 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.920 we can feel the pain of that, and we can 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.520 feel the pain of the reality that, yes, it took 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.080 a goddamn pandemic killing hundreds of thousands of not one 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.040 hundreds of thous but tens of thousands of Americans and 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.720 more worldwide, hundreds of thousands worldwide. It took that for 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.000 us to be unplugged from all the distractions, all the 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.840 ways that we make ourselves feel better, and to numb 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.840 certain experiences and to ignore things that we don't want 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.160 to look at. It. It took this, And I understand 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.560 people who feel that way and maybe resent those of 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.840 them who are jumping into the movement now who never 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.080 posted about it before when it wasn't mainstream. But at 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.680 the same time, there's such a huge opportunity here. I 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:07.720 feel like that's the word. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:08.360 I just keep. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:13.000 Repeating, opportunity, opportunity, use people's guilt that it took them 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:18.000 so long to speak up to the benefit of black lives. So, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.600 if you're part of a company right now who is 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.960 grambling to figure out they posted the thing on social media, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.680 they send the email out to their company. But what's next. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.920 And I really encourage anyone who's working for a company 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.120 or you own a business, if you're in a position 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.199 where you can talk to someone in power who's wanting 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.520 people are wanting to figure out what they can do 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.320 and what their contribution is, let's help them find a way. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.960 You know, tell your company, oh, here are the organizations 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.559 where you can donate. Here are links to the websites 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.280 where you can educate yourself. Here is this bail fund. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.640 People may think that they need to donate to, you know, 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.760 the big names end of lacp ACLU, and that's very important. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.480 There are local, you know, defense funds that are providing 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.400 legal aid to people who are getting arrested, protesting all 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.199 sorts of things. And it doesn't have to be related 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.840 to the although criminal justice is a huge piece of it. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.439 You know, if your company, you know, is necessarily tied 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.160 to social causes, maybe there's something like some other way 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:25.120 through your industry. You can help organizations that are working 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.720 to fight against all the different ways that you know, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.360 brown and black people are at a disadvantage in this country, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.160 and just try to hold back the resentment, I think 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.680 and humor like, give them a shot to try. Yeah, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.160 it took them a damn long time, and it should 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.400 have been. It should have been decades ago, hundreds of 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.640 years ago. I know it should have been. But it's now. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.920 This is this is it. Don't you feel that like 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.200 I feel that way. This is the moment, So ask 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.400 for whatever the heck, ask for everything, Ask for everything. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.400 That's how I feel. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.679 That's and I just want to I want to seize 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.800 this mo And I've been thinking about what I know, Tiffany. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.520 You know you talked a lot about last week wanting 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.760 to lean into other business owners who are trying to 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.240 figure out how to make a safe space and build 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.240 a business that looks like yours, mostly black, largely female, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.640 and really lift up those business owners, which is and 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:20.800 I wanted to know. I know you talked about it 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.040 last week, but you know, how are you finding like 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.079 do you feel the same way I do? And then 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.000 how are you trying to seize this moment. I'm not 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.840 putting you on the spot, but like I kind of am. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.200 Now I think honestly, I I somebody actually reached out 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.360 to me and I I've already spoken to my team 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.520 about what would that look like because I like simple 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:38.920 and soon. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.160 I don't want to make it a. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.560 Whole amen, I don't want to make it. So I'm 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.320 just like, they know those are two favorite words. I'm like, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:46.840 how could we do? So? I asked them, I said, 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.480 if we could dedicate because every my team on Mondays 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.880 we have we have a lead team calls twice a 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.920 twice a week Mondays is mental health checking. So literally 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.199 that call is literally just how you doing, how the 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.160 people on your team doing, what can we do to help? 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.079 And then on Thursdays is when we have like the 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.199 nitty gritty call where it's like, you know, this is 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.160 an issue, this, we're fixing this, we're working on that 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.800 kind of stuff. So I thought, well, what if we 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:17.959 could dedicate one Thursday call a month to a brown 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:23.120 female entrepreneur who So here's the thing though, because I 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.760 know somebody already emailed me, waight to email, because literally. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.880 I'm just going to put it in a in a. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.680 Google doc because I want to I want to create 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.679 some sort of like criteria because what I don't want 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.280 to do, I want to make sure because you're going 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.200 to have access to one of the best digital marketers 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.320 in the world, our CFO, one of the best content 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.319 writers in the country, tamer who is the manager of 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.839 our literature academy. I said, eight figure your business Karen, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.400 who runs everything, our COO myself like this is our 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.120 lead team is six people strong, and it's incredible. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:02.000 So as a result of that, I really want to help. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.760 Existing businesses, So not someone who's like I've got an idea, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.240 and I'm thinking it's like, no, I don't know. We're 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.800 trying to figure out what that looks like. Like I've been 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.600 in business for two years or I've been in business 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.440 for three years. You have to have some skin in 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.520 the game. You have to already have some momentum going 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:21.160 because it's it's you really get to have access to 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.040 folks who are at that net that are like next level. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.079 So I want to make sure that we're really because 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.679 for the lighter stuff like you could join the Literature Academy, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.559 for the smaller stuff like I'm just starting a business, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.320 I want to start an LLC, these type of lighter things. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.040 You know, we have resources for that, but this is 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:41.120 really for businesses that are that are already running and 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.520 just need that extra edge. So that way, because the 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.080 point is to help you grow, so that way you 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:51.000 can create a bigger space and platform so you can 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.520 hire more folks that need that safe keeping, you know. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.160 So yeah, I feel like for me, I've been really 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.640 just asking myself there's like a three prong approach. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.080 I'm like, Okay, how can I help? 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.720 Because for me, whenever things get rough and tough, the 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.960 thing I lean in on is my gifts and talents, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:08.840 which is teaching. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.640 So I always lead with that first. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.760 So I was like, Okay, how can I how can 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.600 I help with businesses? Okay, teaching, I can create a 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.760 safe space where we can start to mentor once a 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:24.319 month a new business to the next level. Okay, Then 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.880 what about like regular individual people? And I'm like, well, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.599 I kind of you already do that with with the 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.920 budget Nista, but still I can have a more point 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.480 and maybe, like I already have kind of like a 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.680 ten step plan about how you reach something that I 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.959 call financial hollness. So I'm like, okay, I'm leaning into 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.960 developing that plan so folks can really like from budgeting 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.320 to estate planning really understand how do I get from 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.320 one under the financial spectrum to the next. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.680 I'm like, okay, good, And then you know what I mean. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.560 So I'm always looking for, like, well, how do I 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.439 help regular everyday people? Then how do I help small businesses? 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.240 And yeah, how can I just expand this reach? And 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.720 when I tell you, and I know some of y'all, listen, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.360 the amount of production companies that have hit me up 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.320 that are like, hey, we'd love to talk to you 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.080 about your own show, and I in the beginning ten 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.480 years ago, Tiffany was like amped, and then five years 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.160 ago Tiffany was like, I'm good, And now Tiffany now 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:28.280 is like, hmmm, I'm I'm open because I believe that 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.480 there's a message that needs to be spread beyond just 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.240 like the people that I normally talk to. I'm not 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:39.520 actually not looking forward to like being like well known, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.320 you know, because it can be a lot. But I 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.160 do think that there has to be another voice in this. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.960 If nothing else has taught me with them all the 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.320 shanan again, with that organization that shall not be named, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.160 and all those other things that you're going to talk about, 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:59.760 right So if nothing else, then it has taught me 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:03.480 that there has to be a descending voice, you know, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.840 that speaks for the voice list and teaches in a 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:12.080 way that doesn't involve shame, that doesn't evolve like antagonization, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:16.560 that doesn't involve all of those things, that teaches financial education, 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:21.000 that democratizes financial education in a way that everyone can participate. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.280 And I'm like, Sotin, if you have that opportunity, don't 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:23.840 turn it down. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.560 So that's where I am right now, just trying to 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.280 tap into extended ways that I can continue to serve 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:31.920 because I've already served this population. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.600 But really just trying to amplify. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.440 That that why would you ever have turned down a 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.040 TV show? Maybe you were having a little bit of 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.760 an aposter syndrome, but I'm gonna need you to get 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.000 their own sure, get every But. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.880 You know, I mean, well, like I said, right now, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.600 there's a bunch of production agency. I haven't I don't, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.120 you know, I'm still even navigating what does that look like? 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.880 Like you know, I'm still trying to have you know, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.360 super baby, and like what I want to I don't 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.080 want I want to make sure that, like you know, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.440 that's my that's a priority for me. I don't want 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.440 to put a show over that. So just understanding, like 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.880 what does the taping schedule look like? You know, And 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.000 I already spoke to them. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.640 Who's the talk show host who had a baby in 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.760 her late forties and she she would Tameron Hall, Tammer and. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.080 Hall yeah mm hmm. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.600 Yeah, So I mean like that I wouldn't want I'll 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.480 tell you that that like from taping from being the 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.080 financial expert for the real that daily show thing. Absolutely not. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.800 I'm not interested in that. It is there's no way 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.600 with all that I have going on, there's no space 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.840 for that. I would prefer some sort of like reality 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.120 positive reality show where I really helped to transform someone's 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.840 life or families have a woman's like whatever that looks like. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.360 But the show is taped in like typically those type 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.400 of shows are taping within two or three months, so 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.320 you like dedicate like three months of your time hardcore 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.120 taping this show, and then you have other things you 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:50.680 can go back to. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.960 I'm not interested in taping. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.800 A show like where you go into the studio and 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.880 you're taping all day long now because I've got ten 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.600 thousand things that I still want to work on. So 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.160 I much rather saying, Okay, these three months out of 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:02.920 my life is show, show, show, and then the show 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.720 comes out and I can do the other things that 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.280 I'm working on. So, like I said, I'm open, and 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.479 I feel like I'm ready. When I saw myself all 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.160 we gotta talk about Queer Eye? 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.560 Oh did you want to talk about that? Is that? 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:16.719 Like? 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:19.720 Were you on Queer Eye? 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:19.840 Did? 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:20.520 Did you guys? 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:20.720 See? 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.280 I didn't? I is that like a thing? Yes? 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.680 Because I was thinking of the right into it. Okay, 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.800 but before you get okay, we all know you're fabulish everyone, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.800 so before you do, because I could put you on 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.879 the spot, just real quick. Just a couple of ways 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:40.720 that I've stepped out of my own comfort zone. One recently, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.800 in response to like what's happening? I went to the 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.879 University of Georgia, which is the oldest black pub uh 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.199 not black, I would not at all super non diverse anyway, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.840 the oldest public higher education institution in the state of Georgia, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.679 and my alma mater. Had an amazing time there, but 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.760 I never realized how many buildings on campus were named 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.280 for And this makes absolute perfect sense. It's a Southern college, 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.920 it's been around hundreds of years. Of course, many institutions 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.440 on the campus have been named after people who had 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.639 not so great belief systems and potentially own slaves and 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.879 all kinds of whatnot. And there's been this movement for 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.960 my journalism school to drop the name in the title 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.960 of at school, which is Grady, and replace it with 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.160 something else. And so I'm kind of I accidentally stumbled 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.800 into the little group of alumni who are trying to 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.080 get the school renamed, and there's a petition going around 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.320 and it feels small, but it feels like something, you know, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.840 like something. So I'm trying to give people ideas. You know, 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.040 look at the street on your corner, look at the 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.320 school down the street, or a statue. I know people 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.320 are looking at statues now. If there's symbols of belief 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:52.000 systems that hurt black Americans, hurt Americans of color, you 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.080 have a voice, and now is the time to challenge 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:56.880 people to take them down literally. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:57.199 You know. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.960 You think of colleges naming places after people who give 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.760 than billions of dollars, you know, and that's why they're 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:04.360 named that way. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.440 In this case, I asked the question, like, so, why 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.879 is this guy's name in my school? Is Henry W. Grady? 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.280 Oh, he was like one of the trustees back in 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:13.919 the day. He didn't give a dime to the school. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.280