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Speaker 2: We're black, We're brown ambition. I feel like I missed

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Speaker 2: a step. Damn it, We're we're black, We're back.

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Speaker 1: We're brown ambition. You know what it is?

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Speaker 3: Hey, mandra hello, our lives matter. If you guys didn't

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Speaker 3: get the memo.

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Speaker 1: Yes, woo child, it has been all.

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Speaker 4: I realized it sounds like I said all, not all.

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Speaker 1: No, yes, are you're just saying, oh, listen.

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Speaker 3: How many folks have I had to correct? I can't

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Speaker 3: believe that has shake stool lives on? But yeah, how

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Speaker 3: are you doing? It has been a week since our

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Speaker 3: last show, which was it was a doozy.

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Speaker 1: It was a doozy.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling, honestly, much much better and lighter because for

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Speaker 2: two weeks it was definitely heavy, heavy, heavy.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm much.

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Speaker 2: Better and lighter just because I also see I see movement,

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Speaker 2: I see improvement, and so I think that's just giving me, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, just a little dose of hope and happiness.

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Speaker 4: So I love that I was feeling that way. I listened.

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Speaker 3: I never really listened to our shows, but this one

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Speaker 3: I actually forgot. It was just we were so emotional

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Speaker 3: a lot of traction. People were listening to it, and

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Speaker 3: I was getting messages thank you for saying.

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Speaker 3: People at my job were sharing it, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: oh man, what did I say about? But I did

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Speaker 3: like Friday. It just felt like, you know, just a

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Speaker 4: Try and restore.

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Speaker 3: And I know for many people they were out in

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Speaker 4: But I see people out there with their.

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Speaker 3: Kids, and it just feels like it's such a big

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to I don't want to miss that,

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Speaker 3: It is all the voices lifting up. People are sharing

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Speaker 3: And I mean, and I give people a lot of credit.

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Speaker 4: Bit like, oh, well, I knew her or him when.

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Speaker 3: You know, hundreds of deaths ago, you know, where were

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Speaker 3: Where were you at Philando Castile? You know all these opportunities?

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Speaker 3: I feel that way. This is the moment, So ask

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Speaker 4: That's how I feel.

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Speaker 3: That's and I just want to I want to seize

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Speaker 3: this mo And I've been thinking about what I know, Tiffany.

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Speaker 3: You know you talked a lot about last week wanting

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Speaker 3: a business that looks like yours, mostly black, largely female,

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Speaker 3: how are you trying to seize this moment. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Now I think honestly, I I somebody actually reached out

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Speaker 4: But it's also an opportunity.

437
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Speaker 3: And I really just encourage everyone to start thinking small,

438
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,239
Speaker 3: like what can you do where you work, where you

439
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: live to try and make things a little bit more

440
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: equitable and ask the people who are in a place

441
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Speaker 3: of power to make commitments to something not just lip service,

442
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: you know. And that's that's what I'm trying to do.

443
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 4: And I don't know.

444
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 3: I'm on the alumni board for this college, and I'm like,

445
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 3: am I gonna get kicked off? I don't know, whatever,

446
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 3: It'll be fine, It'll be fine.

447
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the part that's kind of hard. I'm not

448
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna lie speaking up there. I didn't, you know, when

449
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: I spoke up against like I said, the organization that

450
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: shall not be named, I I didn't anticipate.

451
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: I guess some of the backlash, I guess, which is

452
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: kind of crazy.

453
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 2: I didn't, and maybe I did, but I didn't anticipate

454
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: some of the backlash from some of the people that

455
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,719
Speaker 2: I got it from. You gotta know I did. I

456
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: left before I got to read most of it because

457
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm not in that. I'm not in their community online

458
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 2: Facebook community anymore, because I was like, well, why am

459
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: I here?

460
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 3: Okay, so, but I'm a producer, had aason. We have

461
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: two huge budget, needs to talking points. We have to

462
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: talk about Queer Eye. We have to talk about the

463
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Speaker 3: conference that shall not be named, but we kind of

464
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: do need to name it because people don't know what

465
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: we're talking about. It's called thin kany'all.

466
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Yes, but we talked about it.

467
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: Remember I talked about finn Conn and how I pute.

468
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: We talked about so last week is a blur.

469
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Speaker 4: Did we talk about it?

470
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Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it in general. I talked about well,

471
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: not even in general. I talked about how I shared

472
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: a tweet. Why I tweeted because the founder of finn

473
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: Conn tweeted some really disparaging remarks about like what's happening now,

474
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: But quite honestly, he's been doing that, not just now. Yes,

475
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: he's a huge supporter of literally the person that we

476
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: do not name. That's that's that's now lives on Black

477
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: Matter of Black Lives Matter, sixteen hundred, Black Lives Matter, Plaza,

478
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: the irony.

479
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: So he's a huge.

480
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: Supporter of that person, which whatevers, that's, you know, whatever

481
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: floats your boat. But some of his tweets, he's now

482
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: since disabled his Twitter because God, for bitch, someone should

483
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 2: do the research. Some of his tweets have always been

484
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: like a little okay, but so it came to light

485
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 2: some of his most recent tweets, especially about what's happening now,

486
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: So people were really upset about it. They posted it

487
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Speaker 2: in our our Facebook group and people were holding him

488
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: to the fire. He deleted the post at first, and

489
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: then it was brought back and they were like, no

490
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: answer for these and I, you know, went in. It

491
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: was like and what I saw. What I didn't like

492
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: is that folks were like, well, it's just this one

493
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: time tweet. I was like, no, what's your history of behavior?

494
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: And so I just shared how he'd offered me, you know,

495
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: like peanuts to do a keynote and then offered a

496
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: white woman ten thousand, like he offered me twenty five hundred.

497
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: A white woman ten thousand and then he had paid

498
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: a white man like two or three years prior, maybe

499
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: even before fifty thousand and so, you know, I posted

500
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: that because I wanted to show a history of behavior.

501
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: And so of course I you know, I cause Mandy

502
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: and I had talked about it, remember me and n

503
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: we talked about it offline before when I was asking like, do.

504
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: You know what other folks have made?

505
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: Because I wanted to just see, like what's happening, and

506
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: a few other women and I want to I want

507
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 2: to keep it really vague because I you know, it's

508
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: not my story to tell, but a few other women

509
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: reached out to me about their experiences about pay and things,

510
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: and it is egregious what some people were paid or

511
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: offered egregious. And yeah, so I shared that and honestly,

512
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: not that I didn't think anything was gonna happen, but

513
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: it kind of blew up in the in the least

514
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: a personal finance space. He ended up stepping down as CEO,

515
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: which wasn't my intention. And quite honestly, if I'm gonna

516
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: be always transparent, I don't care.

517
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: I've left that place.

518
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: It's like it's like I've yeah, I don't you're stepping

519
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: down whatever, like que I mean, I know to me

520
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: it's just for looks, but whatever, I don't and so

521
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: I've moved on. But I'm from what I've heard, there's

522
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: been like a lot of there are other things that

523
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: he's done to other folks that have come to light.

524
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: Once I shared that, people were like and then and

525
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: then and then and then, you know, but by then

526
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: I had left, and so, like I said, I'm not

527
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: in the the group anymore. But people were sending me

528
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: screenshots of what some folks were saying.

529
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: Something that he did that I didn't like, which I

530
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: didn't even notice that he'd done.

531
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: He implied, ever so lightly, that maybe I was anti Semitic,

532
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 2: That's what it kind of read like, which I didn't think.

533
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, So there was.

534
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: One post where he said, Hey, Tiffany, I didn't pay

535
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: someone with this that guy more because he's Jewish and white,

536
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, who's Jewish?

537
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even in the way he I didn't realize.

538
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't until some folks in the Incong community who

539
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: were Jewish reached out and were upset, like, Hey, Tiffany,

540
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: did you say anything about the guy who's paid more

541
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: being Jewish. And that's why I was like, what, First

542
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: of all, I didn't even know he was Jewish?

543
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: Okay, like, and second of all I didn't.

544
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: I had to literally post my tweet and even post

545
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: my email response back to the offer, like I never

546
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: once mentioned like that he's Jewish, and I thought, I thought,

547
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: I found that very curious that he would use that language.

548
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I mean, uh huh, yeah,

549
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: So it just yes, well, what's the expression that came

550
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: home to roost.

551
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: You reap what you so, mister, yes, And that's you

552
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: don't want to relish. You don't want to relish on

553
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: anyone's downfall. I hope that this is another case of

554
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 3: what happens when we talk to each other. And it

555
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: also is another case of you and Tiffany. You did

556
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: the work, You benchmarked your own damn speech, and you

557
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: should have and you should to figure because you know

558
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: what you're worth. But it's also okay you want to be,

559
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, cognitizant of someone's budget, but you need to know,

560
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: and so many people don't know what they're worth. And

561
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: in one part of that journey is asking others what

562
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: they've gotten for similar work and it's just one of

563
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: these awkward, you know, taboo subjects in this country. And unfortunately,

564
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: what's most challenging if you're a person of color is

565
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: you may not know people who have been there before

566
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: you to give you that, to give you the benefit

567
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: of knowledge. And that is another part of white privilege

568
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: that people don't want to acknowledge. The fact that you

569
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: may have an uncle, or you may have a neighbor,

570
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: you may have a friend's you know, father, from the

571
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: school that you attend it's a fancy school, you know,

572
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: you may have access to knowledge. It's not just about money.

573
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: It's not just about healthcare, although those are huge issues

574
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: as well. It's about knowledge and sometimes you have to work.

575
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: And this is another I'll say it again, this is

576
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: brown ambition. Brown ambition is doing the extra work, not

577
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: whining about the fact that you need to do it,

578
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: but doing it because that is what's going to take

579
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: for you to get to where you're going. And it's

580
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: so necessary. And when you spoke, other people heard you.

581
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: And I hope that this just encourages more people, not

582
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: just women, but of course women like talk to each

583
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: other ask what did you get, and especially if it's

584
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: someone who's already kind of passed that mark. They shouldn't

585
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: have a problem sharing that with you, and I encourage

586
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: if you're not. This is one way to be an ally.

587
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: If you're not sure of what to do or how

588
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: you can contribute, reach out to someone a few steps

589
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: behind you, who's a person of color, woman or man,

590
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: or person in general, and offer them access to your knowledge,

591
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: the benefit of your knowledge, because you may be underestimating

592
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: the value of it, you know.

593
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: Because it's like, literally, I remember, Manandi, I reached out

594
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: to you. I was like, Mandy, what do you think.

595
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: I reached out to my agent, Ellie, what have you heard?

596
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: I reached out to a number of women. I would

597
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: say at least five different women I reached out to

598
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: just to be sure that I wasn't bugging, you know.

599
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: And then when I got like some numbers back, I

600
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: was like, interesting, this is some being because.

601
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't want to jump the gun, even

602
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: though it intrinsically I was like, twenty five hundred seems

603
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: super low considering that literally local churches pay me more.

604
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: But also too, there are there have been huge platforms

605
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: where I spoke where they didn't pay any speakers and

606
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: then you know, because I've asked around and I'm like, okay,

607
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: so this is one of those platforms.

608
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to jump the gun.

609
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: And I was just like, you know, just in case,

610
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: you know, I was mistaken, you know, to leave space

611
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: for that. But to your point, Mandy, that it's so

612
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: important to you know, have the conversations. It's one to

613
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: ask and two to reply to other folks about what's happening.

614
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm always sharing like this. Was talking to a.

615
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: Friend of mine today who got just approached by a

616
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: production company because they're all trying to gobble us all

617
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: up for for a guess finding shows. And I was

618
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: walking her through like what the steps are going to

619
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: look like and like the dudes that don't want the

620
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: expectation all that stuff. Because you know, Lynette, who we've

621
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: had on the show she put me on. I feel

622
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: like it's so important to pass information on from one

623
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: person to the next and not to hoard information because

624
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: in doing so you can just it really just helps us.

625
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: To all grow collectively together. So so yeah, but.

626
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel really good. I mean, people have reached

627
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: out to me like are you okay. I'm like, sis,

628
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: I was on Queer Eyes.

629
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: So I'm good, which We're gonna take a quick break.

630
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 3: You see how I make people wait until we come

631
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: back for a break. We're gonna take a quick break

632
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: and then I mean, we all know what the brown

633
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: boos is gonna be. Let's just talk about Tiffy and

634
00:29:38,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: Queer right, Okay, we will be right back. Do do

635
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: do do do do do do do do?

636
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: Are we not taking questions today? People will?

637
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: I don't care about things right now. This I was

638
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: just singing the theme song for Queer Eye. Dude, dude, okay,

639
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: so Queer I. That was the gift that I gave myself. Yes,

640
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: this is Barnavis Fromer back to the show. I'm taking

641
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: over the segment because I'm an.

642
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: Interview Tiffany about Queer I.

643
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So what happened was Tiffany and I are

644
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: obviously not friends because she did not tell me about this.

645
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: No, that's not true.

646
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: Do you guys know what.

647
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: Tiffany stable? Because you have laughing, you throw your back

648
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: out again. So here's what happens when you get tapped

649
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: on the shoulder for a can you even call it

650
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: a nah? A global television phenomenon because it's on n

651
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: they make you sign so many pieces of paper, so

652
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: much legalies that says if you tell a single soul,

653
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: we will take their firstborn child. And obviously she knew

654
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: I was okay, So of course Tiffany couldn't tell anybody

655
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: except for her lovely HUSBANDE. But queer eye queer eye,

656
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: which epitomizes like so much of what is good in

657
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: the world right now, And it was the treat I

658
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: gave myself this weekend. I tucked in, you know, with

659
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: my nice fuzzy blanket and my puppy, and we sat

660
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: down to watch a few episodes, and I really was

661
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: in my feelings because they were in Philly this season,

662
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: and Philly obviously has a huge just lots of black culture,

663
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: lots of gentrification. It's a city that's in the in

664
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: the midst of so much change, not just the city

665
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: but the state as well, and they told some unique

666
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: black stories. There was a young woman who had a

667
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: business that was on the rocks, like she and all

668
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: she needed was someone to tell her how. And it

669
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: broke my heart because without the access to knowledge, you

670
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: can see how it was holding her back from her

671
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: own dream and her own possibility. And then then we

672
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: get to a young man named Tyreek, who, oh my god,

673
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: just this human teddy bear of a man who, for

674
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: reasons out of his control, borne into tough circumstances but

675
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: pulled himself out, found himself to a good community and

676
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: was getting back on his feet, but had some financial issues.

677
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: And when I heard his story, I was like, Tiffany,

678
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: this guy means Tiffany, Like if he just had a Tiffany,

679
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: it would all be okay, you know, And he needs

680
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: his auntie Ruth to love him again, but like that's fine,

681
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: but mostly he needs to figure out why his credit

682
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: has been stolen. And then like the fairy Godwether Bibity

683
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: Poppity Boo budget Neiza, it was on my screen, Oh

684
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: my god. And when I saw Tiffy, like, who are

685
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: you talking about earlier the founders of the Black Lives

686
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: Matter movement and how incredible it is to see people

687
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: who have done the work for so long succeed And

688
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: now Queer Eye to me is like you could have

689
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: won the Nobel Peace Prize, Tiffany, Like it's just this

690
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: show is just I stand for it because I genuinely

691
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: feel like if we just loved each other and looked

692
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: at each other the way that these five beautiful men

693
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: look at the people that they help. It's just the

694
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: intention of the show is so pure and I just

695
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: eat it up. It fills my soul, and you also

696
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: fill my soul because that is how you approach your work,

697
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: And when those two things came together, it was just

698
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: I could not take it. And to have known you

699
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: for as long as I have and to watch your

700
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: career people, I got message from people who were like,

701
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: I just love the way you.

702
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: Love Tiffany, Like I love how excited you are for

703
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: your friends.

704
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: And I'm like, find you a friend who loved you

705
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: like I left tiff and watched to see you succeed.

706
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: Y'all need better friends.

707
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: Y'all need friends who want to see you rise.

708
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: Yo, your ID stories just just gave me all the life.

709
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, first of all, the fact that

710
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: you were watching it and saying it like oh NVK,

711
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: you know, like to me, should be audi?

712
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Wait is that?

713
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: And then you literally I was gonna tweet them like

714
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: why didn't you call my girl Tiffany and had a

715
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: brother show. Not that I have any influence, but oh,

716
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: and I'm glad you didn't tell me, because it was

717
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: so it was just to find out that.

718
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: Way and be genuinely shocked and surprised.

719
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: It was amazing.

720
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: So because you know, well the way it worked, it

721
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: was like a year I had taste almost a year prior.

722
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: They were sweating nasties, and I could tell it was

723
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: like what.

724
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: It was because I was it was. I was so.

725
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: And then you know, of course you signed your NDA

726
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: like you know, and in it because also too, you know,

727
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: they want to protect the privacy of Tyreek, you know,

728
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: before that comes out. And plus two, you know they

729
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: want they tape, you know, so long in advance. And

730
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: so I was so scared to say anything because I

731
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: was I was afraid that if anything came out that

732
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: they would just cut my segments.

733
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: They had never done a financial segment a queer I

734
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: didn't know that.

735
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: Until recently, and that was their first ever financial money

736
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: segment or expert on Queer Eye. So and then so

737
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: after months, I forgot because if y'all know, if you've

738
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: been listening to Brown and Bits, you know I have

739
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: the memory of an eighty year old. So I literally

740
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 2: totally forgot until it was just about to come out

741
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: and they gave me like the flyer, which I added

742
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: myself to the flyer. I'm in the little boat at

743
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: the back, like hey, So they gave me this, and

744
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: they gave me the flyer to post, and by then

745
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten that, like you know that I hadn't told

746
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: that anyone, And so when it came out, it just

747
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: like literally I woke up.

748
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: It was June fifth is when it came out.

749
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: I woke up first thing in the morning, and I

750
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: watched the episode, and of course I'm boohooing over Tyrek,

751
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: and then I'm nervous to see how do I show

752
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: up because it's it's nerve wracking when you're on camera.

753
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: It's very difficult to maintain and be yourself when a

754
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: camera is on, and for years I've been practicing to do.

755
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: I remember Oprah did this interview where she talks about

756
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: how Quincy Jones told her what made her so special

757
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: and why he knew why she was going to do

758
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: well is that she has the unique ability to be

759
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: the same on and off camera.

760
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: I think people take it for granted when a camera

761
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: turns on.

762
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Ninety nine point nine percent of people are not able

763
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: to be the same person.

764
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: It's very difficult.

765
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: And I remember when I heard Oprah say that that

766
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: that's what Quincy Jones said about her.

767
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: I made it my mission. It was years ago.

768
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: I made it my mission to work on being the

769
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: same person on and off camera. And most times I'm

770
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: not like I'm a little bit more nervous. I'm you know,

771
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: like I'm either super hyper Tiffany or super low key Tiffany,

772
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: but never really just like my normal self. And for

773
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: the first time ever, when I saw myself on Queer Eye,

774
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: that's exactly me. Like, that's exactly like how if there

775
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: was no camera, the way I spoke to Treiq is

776
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: exactly how I show up, Like when I'm helping a

777
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: dream catcher and I was watching myself and I was like, wow,

778
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: ten years in the making, Tiffany, you finally did it

779
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: like you are you, you know, and it just felt

780
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: really I don't know, it just felt really good and

781
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: it just felt and.

782
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't even reconuz.

783
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I was thinking to myself, Okay, I did it,

784
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: but then someone so many people hit me up and

785
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: said you were so kind of Tarik, and I'm like,

786
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: what I didn't even see it that way, and I'm like,

787
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: I didn't think I was kind. I was just doing

788
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: what I would normally do, and you were so uplifting,

789
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, how do people speaking to me?

790
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you have to make yourself so vulnerab

791
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 3: you know, he was probably more nervous than you were. Yeah,

792
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: because people look at their finances. And if you haven't

793
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: seen this episode, the episode four seas in five, check

794
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: it out in Netflix Seal Someone's password. It's fine, Tyreek.

795
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: You can tell that he was the kind of person

796
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: who swept things under the rug. I mean how many years,

797
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: Like he was eleven when he was moved from his

798
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: home with his aunt slash mother Ruth, and then he

799
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: was in his mid twenties, so over a decade he

800
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: spent not talking to this woman, and his finances are

801
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: probably similar.

802
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, I tried to go to a.

803
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: Bank, you know, a few years ago, and they told

804
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: me that someone stole my social and then you know

805
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: so and people are so embarrassed often and afraid to

806
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: acknowledge what they've done wrong because they feel like they're

807
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: going to be judged and they feel that they're going

808
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: to hear Oh well, you deserve what you get, you

809
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: know you're supposed to have. But and then in that shame,

810
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: it's about shame, you know, it's about shame, and it's

811
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: about releasing what you what you do, what your power is,

812
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: and what Oprah's power is too, because she's talked to

813
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: so many people who have so much shame about their circumstances.

814
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: You put them at ease because you relieve them of it,

815
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: you know.

816
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: Well also too, I just wanted him to know that

817
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: you're not alone, you know that.

818
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: Like like that's when I when I was like, I've

819
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: been on paychecks okay, like not paycheck check systems, yeah,

820
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: like in.

821
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: The check systems mentioned in Queer Eye. I just love it.

822
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: I mean when when tell me when that's ever been mentioned?

823
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: Yes, you don't check your bank account.

824
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: And so I just it was I mean, it was

825
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: so crazy because like you guys, see me give him

826
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: like a paper where I talk because beforehand they kind

827
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: of gave me like his background. So I wanted to

828
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: create a specialized plan for him that was not for

829
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: TV that it was like this is what I want

830
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: you to do. So I really I typed out, like okay,

831
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: step one, step two, step three.

832
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: I want you to be okay.

833
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: And so we were like wrapping up taping and I

834
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: was like, okay, Torik you no, no, Now, the cameras

835
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: and things are going to be off, but I want

836
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: to share this with you because I really want you

837
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: to be okay beyond this. And so they're like, wait,

838
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: what's that. It was like a plan I typed up

839
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: for him. They're like, let's get it on camera, and

840
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: that's what. That's what because we talked for a while,

841
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: so that's what showed up. And I just thought it's

842
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: so incredible, like that, that honest interaction that that wasn't

843
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: meant for you know, I didn't bring.

844
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: That for TV. That wasn't you know.

845
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: We had already kind of talked about how the scene

846
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: it was gonna go, and that wasn't for that. That

847
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: was like I wanted. I wanted him to have something

848
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: to go home with. And I literally love was like

849
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: step one, do this, step two, call this person, step three.

850
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: You because I knew that he needed that handholding.

851
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: And so and for those of you who are asking,

852
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: because when you're watching, you see I tell him there's

853
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: a thirty six thirty six day. Of course, honestly, it's

854
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: just my y'all been hearing me talking about my Literature

855
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: Challenge for the longest.

856
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: It's free.

857
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean it I gave it to him, but I

858
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: mean it's literally just the Live Richer Challenge.

859
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: If you go to live Richer.

860
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: Challenge dot com, there's five challenges you can take, take

861
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: one at a time because it's an email course, so

862
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: it emails you daily. But the one that I suggested

863
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: for him was the Fundamentals. That's the very first one

864
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: I ever wrote. But yeah, so it's free. Because people

865
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: were messaging like I wish I had a thirty six

866
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: day I'm like, you do Liverature Challenge. It's like I've

867
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: wrote it in twenty fourteen, and so yeah, it's just

868
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: it was just I don't usually give myself a lot

869
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: of space and grace, but I was like, Tiffany.

870
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you.

871
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: You did a really good job and you help someone

872
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to like reconnect because the way it is,

873
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: obviously they're not going to give me his contact information.

874
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: So but I've definitely said it.

875
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: Like when I saw it come out, I reached back

876
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: out to the producer to say please, you know, regive

877
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: him my contact information so we can make sure that

878
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: he is he's okay, because it's you know, you know,

879
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: thirty minutes with someone is not enough. You really need

880
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: some handholding. And I don't mind doing that for him.

881
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: And so much of what he was going through is

882
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: probably tied up.

883
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: And you know, and people the psychology and money is real, y'all,

884
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: and you need follow up.

885
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: It's the same.

886
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: It's so similar to when you're trying to lose weight

887
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: and you get you get weight loss surgery, like people

888
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: in my family have gotten. And it's not a it's

889
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: about that surgery. It's not like and that's what kind

890
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: of happens on Queer I And I mean, I love

891
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: the show. They do spend a week with people and

892
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: they really pour into them and they tailor the makeover.

893
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to say makeover like it's a

894
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 3: you know, splashed a lipstick and a new outfit. They

895
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: really work on the inside and the out. But at

896
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: the same time, it's a week and they get you know,

897
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: they gave Tyrek this beautiful, stunning makeover of his apartment

898
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: that he finally had had for the first time, but

899
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: he was still working. I mean, you can tell he's

900
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: on the fringe. You know, he was homeless for a

901
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: lot for many years, and those type of people are

902
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: very vulnerable. I mean, sometimes you don't even know what

903
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: to do with that kind of good fortune, and you

904
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: may start to you may start to feel guilty about it.

905
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 3: You may not think you're worthy of it. I mean,

906
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: and I just feel like, and it's not just about Tyreek,

907
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 3: although of course he's hot, he's fresh on my mind,

908
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: but it's about it's about reaching out to those people

909
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: and following up and seeing and acknowledging that they're going

910
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: to need you know, that follow up. And I hope

911
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: I got really invested in his story and then you

912
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: turned up and then I was like, okay, I like

913
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: need to know everything about him and follow him everywhere.

914
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Sidebar.

915
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: Mandy was a guest on I G Live and everyone

916
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: was like, I did not know in who my sister.

917
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: She's like, you did not tell me that Mandy was hilarious.

918
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, you didn't know.

919
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: The same blood No, because I had that to listen.

920
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: No, you are, I mean, I obviously I know you're hilarious,

921
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: but I'm just so used to you being like hilarious

922
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: and I'm like yeah.

923
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: She's like yeah, but she's.

924
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: Like, I've never you know, like I've heard Mandy on

925
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: the podcast, but I've never seen like Mandy and accent.

926
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, what everybody thinks that I'm like the crazy

927
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: silly one. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no no,

928
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Mandy on more often.

929
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: She like to off her game because I don't know

930
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: any rules. I mean I do. I made the.

931
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: Same commitment and be myself whenever i'm because it's too

932
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: exhausted and could try and be any you know. I

933
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: see like people on IG and they and I did

934
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: it too. I was watching some of my oh used

935
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: to host a web series like y'ahoo Finance, and I

936
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: watched some of my old videos and I'm like, look

937
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: at you trying to be Katie Kirk.

938
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: You're not Katie Kirk. You're not Katie Kirk.

939
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: Like that's not who you are. She's not, but there's

940
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: only one you and I Yeah. And also when you're

941
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: too tired to try, which is you know, the last

942
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: six months of my life, it really just reveals just

943
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: who you are inside. So I'm glad you kuinds like

944
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: it and.

945
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna teach you how to stay to pull back

946
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: from the from the phone.

947
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: Grandma.

948
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, look at mandy face all up in the

949
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: phone like somebody's grandma. I was like, you can tell Bady,

950
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: don't never go No, my.

951
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: Face was all up in the phone because I don't

952
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: have a studio where I have the lighting and my

953
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: face beat and you know the nice background. You were

954
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: gonna literally see my bed that wasn't made. So I

955
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: had to fill the I had to fill the string with.

956
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: My hair with your hair.

957
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

958
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: So you're welcome for that.

959
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: I just feel like it this just gets like so

960
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: much better. I mean when you when you were like

961
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: we should try a podcast, I was like, oh, that

962
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 2: new thing that folks are doing. Who would have known,

963
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: like five years later we'd be still going strong and

964
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: consistent and who else?

965
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: Honestly, just who else could I have done it with?

966
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: Just I was a genius. I was you were that

967
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: works to you.

968
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: To deal with it was perfect timing. I was like, oh, okay.

969
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, and I feel like but it's it's it's just

970
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: another platform, you know, and it's another way to reach people,

971
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: and it just yeah, it fills me up and it

972
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: sounds like it fills a lot of you guys up

973
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: to and that brings me joy and I you know,

974
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: we're ben a thing from this whole. I'm like, yeah,

975
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: y'all one's in Brown podcasts A shout out, thank y'all

976
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: for sharing our podcast.

977
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: We've been tagged in las last and lots of posts.

978
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: Keep it up, Keep it up and challenge people, you know, like,

979
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: oh you really want to support us?

980
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: Can you shout us out? You know, I'm saying like

981
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: people want to support, they want to reach and see

982
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: who they know, you know, who represents a voice that's

983
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: not often heard, and you know, tell them about yours,

984
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 4: tell them about ours. This is the moment to call

985
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: people out? How do we get off back onto me? Tiffany,

986
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: congratulations on Queer Eye? What is next? Will you be

987
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: on every other se I mean, are they going to

988
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: add a financial segment? Because what could be more important

989
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: to people's livelihoods than they're fighting?

990
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean, low key, they wanted me to do another episode,

991
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: but it was Family Night, y'all know I was doing

992
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I told you all that every

993
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: other Wednesday we were doing like Family Night. So that

994
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: way myself, Supergirls, Supermom, her mom, my husband, Superman that

995
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: we could all like have dinner together because I really

996
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: want a Supergirl to know that we're all one family,

997
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: despite us moving and being in a new house.

998
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: So it was that night and I was like, I

999
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: could take literally any other time, and.

1000
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: They were like, no, that's the only time. And I

1001
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: had to make a decision. Do I forego family night?

1002
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: I know I hadn.

1003
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: Gone family night.

1004
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I did at first.

1005
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: No, I did at first, and I was like, you know,

1006
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: I told them, I'm like I'll be there, and then

1007
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: I just thought about it. I'm like, girl, what are

1008
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: you really saying? Like what's important? You know, Like what

1009
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: are you really saying? You're saying Because here's the thing,

1010
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: opportunities will always be there for you, Tiffany, because you

1011
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: do the work, but you know these are this is

1012
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: an opportunity as well. Superman Mom had switched around her

1013
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: work schedule for us to meet, you know, because of

1014
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: course I asked.

1015
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, can we do a different

1016
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: day and she was like no.

1017
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: You know, I had already told my my job that

1018
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: I want to have these Wednesdays off and so I

1019
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: just I told them, I was like, literally, any other

1020
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: day I will cancel everything, but this Wednesday evening I cannot.

1021
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: And they were like, it's the only time we're taping.

1022
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: So it didn't happen, but hopefully they will have more segment,

1023
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully, like I said, I am open now

1024
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: more than ever to a positive show. I'm not one

1025
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: for you know, I'm not here to make anyone feel bad.

1026
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: I'm not here to spread any negativity.

1027
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: I believe that, like.

1028
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm the love child of mister Rogers and Harriet Tubman,

1029
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: so you know, like you gonna get free with loving kindness,

1030
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: and so yes, I'm open to that. I think, like

1031
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: that's really the next step is that I feel it,

1032
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: you know. I'm just like, I'm not gonna fight it anymore.

1033
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, if it's if it's in the cards. I

1034
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: feel like there needs to be a new voice being

1035
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: heard and some new things being said, you know, because

1036
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: we can't just focus on debt freedom, we can't just

1037
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: focus on like what you know what I mean, like,

1038
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: there has to be an effort to growing wealth in

1039
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: the black and brown communities. When I here's the statistics

1040
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: that said the black community in the United States will

1041
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: be collectively bankrupt by twenty fifty. I mean, that's crazy,

1042
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, there has to be a descending voice

1043
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: that says, no, that's not going to be true. And

1044
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: here's why, yea, and why not open to it? Exactly?

1045
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: If not you, then who who?

1046
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 3: And it's not just I mean, obviously you're the budget

1047
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: needs to and you have such a big reach. But

1048
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: if you have knowledge, you've learned from our you've learned

1049
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: from our show about investing and building your wealth, take

1050
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: that to someone else, you know, tell a friend, to

1051
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: tell a friend, and you know, that's how liberal, that's

1052
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: how budget needs to grew. That's how the dream Cutters grew.

1053
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: It's about reaching behind you and pulling them up before you.

1054
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: And yes, for people of color, unfortunately, that's part of

1055
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: the burden that we carry. You know, you make it

1056
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: and then you want you you want to turn around

1057
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: and help people before you. I mean, you have to

1058
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: put your own life best on first, take care of yourself,

1059
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: but also acknowledge that maybe now people will help, but

1060
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: often it's it's us to help each other.

1061
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: And that's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing.

1062
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: And again, it's the it's the knowledge, it's the it's

1063
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: the passing down of knowledge.

1064
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: That it's so much as given much is required, you know,

1065
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: like if you are fortunate to know a thing, you

1066
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: know and also to this is what here's the blessing

1067
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: in teaching.

1068
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, when you teach, you learn twice.

1069
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: So the more you actually show somebody had a budget,

1070
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: how to save, how to invest, you are literally reinforcing

1071
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: that knowledge into yourself. So I I mean I have

1072
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: taught budgeting thousands of times. That's why I can budget

1073
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 2: with my eyes closed. Because every time I teach someone,

1074
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: I am reteaching myself. I am reconfirming that information in me.

1075
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: So if there's a there is there there's benefit to

1076
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: also showing someone how to do something. So just know

1077
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: that that there's a blessing in that too. That like, yeah,

1078
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: when you teach, when you teach, you learn twice.

1079
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the last and really important thing is there

1080
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: is enough for everybody. The reason I'm able to treat

1081
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: Tiffany's victories as if they're like if I was on

1082
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: queer Eye in a fabulous blue pantsuit with a wrist

1083
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 3: full of green liverat or of Budgetiza Bengles is.

1084
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: That there's room for all of us to succeed.

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00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: And I think what you see and why and especially

1086
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: why you see the proliferation of that goddamn hashtag All

1087
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: Lives Matter is people are worried that if we win,

1088
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: if you win, if someone else wins, it means that

1089
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: you have to lose.

1090
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: And that is so not true.

1091
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: It's the scarcity mindset that needs to be broken down,

1092
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: and we need to prove, we need to show that

1093
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: if you lift us up, imagine what more we can

1094
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: all do? You know, And it's again, it sounds cliche

1095
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: and it sounds corny, but that is the God's honest truth.

1096
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 3: And you need to believe that about your your self

1097
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: too and the people around you. You know, don't hoard

1098
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: your information, don't hoard what you've been given give, be

1099
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: generous with your knowledge, be generous with your love, be

1100
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: generous with your whatever you have to a certain extent,

1101
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: because it has a way of attracting it back to you.

1102
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: And I believe that emphatically, emphatically, and I just hope

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00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: everyone starts to feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I want to shout out to Superman for

1105
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: not coming in the room. He was like, I'm gonna

1106
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: get Samon burgers. He said if you leave the door,

1107
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: but I'll just come in.

1108
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, bruh, who now?

1109
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 4: But I was burger.

1110
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: I was like, no, Remember when I take my podcast

1111
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: every creek matters?

1112
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: He said, got it? Five years later, Well.

1113
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 4: You're right, the whole damn show has pretty.

1114
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: Much got out Superman opening the door.

1115
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: What do we do now for Sorry for not taking questions.

1116
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 3: It's all my fault. It's my fault. We didn't two questions.

1117
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: We'll do the next week. We'll do double questions next week.

1118
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we will.

1119
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: We'll do double questions because you guys have some awesome

1120
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: questions and so you can.

1121
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: You can tweet us.

1122
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: Honestly, I love when you tweet us, and I love

1123
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: when you tag both me and Mandy as well, so

1124
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: Brown and Bush and podcasts or not tweet us Instagram's

1125
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: Brown and BITCHI and podcasts on Instagram. But I love

1126
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: when you also tag Mandy with an eye money and

1127
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: the budgetisas so when you tag all three, it means

1128
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: we can all see it. Yeah, And I love it

1129
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: because I love reposting it and be like yay. And honestly,

1130
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I love seeing our podcast cover picture.

1131
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, look at me and Mandy. Look, it's so

1132
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: cute and I'm a little purple and blue. We just

1133
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: would Honestly, that was a day I'm like, oh, man,

1134
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: Mandy's stotting on this picture, so.

1135
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: I would try to just photoshop my now hair on it.

1136
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh your big hair, big hair, don't care.

1137
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: Homegirl was a different person five years ago than she

1138
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: is now. But it's fun to look back, and I'm

1139
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: just like, damn, we should have done a new picture

1140
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: this year.

1141
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: Maybe for a five year anniversary.

1142
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: We can. Maybe we'll just take pictures in different places

1143
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: and then photoshop them together.

1144
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: We can.

1145
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: Let's make uh, let's make technology work to our favorite Okay,

1146
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: you said you came with the whole list. We even

1147
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: got to your list of what to talk about.

1148
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: No, no, that's okay. Honestly we got to most of

1149
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: it there.

1150
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: But there is one I would say, if you're looking

1151
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: for something to like kind of be on or look at,

1152
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: there's this really great IG page wordy period talk w

1153
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: O R D y period talk t A l K.

1154
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: It's a young sister. And when I tell you, Mandy,

1155
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: not only is. She sharp, bright and intelligent. So she

1156
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: it's just a great space, especially if you're an ally

1157
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: to learn some of the quote unquote facts even told

1158
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: about black folks, especially in America our lives dot Com.

1159
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: She breaks down exactly how they are lies with the facts,

1160
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: with the true facts, but she.

1161
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: Does so in such a way she is hilarious.

1162
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: She's hilarious, She is funny, but she's also really informative,

1163
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: and I just encourage everyone to follow Wordy. I don't

1164
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: know her personally, but I saw one of her videos

1165
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: went viral and when I tell you, I was like

1166
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: rolling laughing, but I was also like, wow, that's so true.

1167
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: So w O r d Y talk t a l K.

1168
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: That's her ig and she's amazing.

1169
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: I encourage everyone who wants to learn about some of

1170
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: the systematic ways that African Americans have been just devalued

1171
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: in understanding, like the like how and why and how

1172
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: some of the things you've been told like black on

1173
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: black crime, How that's a lie and some of these

1174
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: other things that you've been told about Black America. Yeah,

1175
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: she really breaks them down and shows like why these

1176
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: things are just not true and some of them, some

1177
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: of these things are intentionally false to create this negative

1178
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: narrative that has that has made it okay to see

1179
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 2: dead black bodies on our timelines when you don't see

1180
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: anybody else that that being so so Yeah, wordy talk, hilarious,

1181
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: funny and informative.

1182
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 4: I love it. That's fine.

1183
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just followed her just now. I'm ready to

1184
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: learn too. I've learned stuff that I don't know about.

1185
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 3: I learned that on my alma mater, they built one

1186
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 3: of our campus buildings on the graves of slaves and

1187
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 3: only discovered it when they went to renovate the building.

1188
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still learning to this day.

1189
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: And it's also something that I think for and I'm

1190
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: not even I'm not even going to pretend like I've

1191
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: been an outspoken BLM activist, like like like your friends

1192
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: have been, and out there every day, you know, you

1193
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 3: get caught up and Okay, I gotta I gotta put

1194
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 3: food on the table. I've got to make a life

1195
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 3: for myself. And sometimes if you spend every day drowning

1196
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: and like the the injustices.

1197
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: You will never move forward. It's such a balance.

1198
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: But the good thing now is that we don't have

1199
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 3: to share the burden alone, and I'm heartened by that.

1200
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: And I really encourage you guys to check out our

1201
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: show notes because there are some great resources there for

1202
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: yourself to do more and contribute to the movement, and

1203
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: also resources you can send instead of you know, hopping

1204
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: on the phone with friends.

1205
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 4: You know, we talk about what it's like to be

1206
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: the only black.

1207
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: Friend, hop on the phone and you know, or text

1208
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: them and be like, here are some great resources you

1209
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 3: can educate yourself. Let's do it together. It's it's really beautiful.

1210
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to sound like Pollyanna, but I

1211
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: think we just need a little a little lot of optimism,

1212
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 3: you know, we just need a little budgets done, queer eye,

1213
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: that's what we needed. Thank you, best wishes to you,

1214
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: my love, and I hope that when you launch your

1215
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, is TV even a thing anymore?

1216
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 4: Your Hulu or your Netflix.

1217
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: You know whatever, that looks like, right.

1218
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: So exciting, so exciting, and you.

1219
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be like, you can't get rid of me.

1220
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm hit. I'm a tech all right, y'all?

1221
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: Be well, take care of yourselves. Take heart in the

1222
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: fact that people are helping share the load now it is.

1223
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 3: You don't have to do it all on your own.

1224
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: We're here for you.

1225
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: Reach out to us Brandonbision Podcast. You can also shoot

1226
00:55:48,120 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: us an email. Brandnabis Podcast at gmail dot com